How To Deal With Pins On Your Knights

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  • Practical advice on what to do when your knight gets pinned by a bishop.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:09 - 4 Basic Options
    7:12 - Other Cases
    18:29 - Outro
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  • @krishradio1
    @krishradio1 2 роки тому +256

    Thank you for this critical strategic lesson on one of the most practical positions faced by beginners/intermediate players. I think watching this video multiple times and then internalising it will help us play with more confidence.

  • @andreluveltia6355
    @andreluveltia6355 2 роки тому +136

    During 06:03, you can counter attack by attacking the bishop with a pawn, with a risk of.. the enemy pawn capturing pawns to the kingside.

    • @julianooms327
      @julianooms327 2 роки тому +17

      Yeah I was going to mention that as well, and if black plays Bh4 just go g4. It’s not pretty and you will lose a pawn if the opponent takes the knight immediately, but you certainly don’t lose a full piece like Nelson implied

    • @ggcreeper962
      @ggcreeper962 2 роки тому

      True

    • @unh0lys0da16
      @unh0lys0da16 2 роки тому +1

      I think he meant in general, not in that specific case

    • @lucasbortoluzzi9369
      @lucasbortoluzzi9369 2 роки тому

      it weakens the king side but you develop your bishop faster as black as no pieces develop i think you come out ahead and ready to attackif he goes for the captures with your half open file he will have to watch out for the rook dicover attack on the g pawn too when he develop his dark square bishop

    • @jordanthomas8542
      @jordanthomas8542 2 роки тому

      _+ open b file_

  • @puzzLEGO
    @puzzLEGO 2 роки тому +17

    a lot of people think the worst of it, but sometimes having doubled pawns is worth the lack of struggle trying to defend it

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 Рік тому

      Wdym, "lack of struggle" I thought double isolated pawns are bad because they are _harder_ to defend.

  • @zBrain0
    @zBrain0 2 роки тому +38

    I picked up at least three useful tactics. As usual you picked a great topic. This one is especially funny for me though because I have a friend that always plays the philidor defense... I guarantee I will get a checkmate out of those two knights at some point in the near future

  • @prakasavigraha6104
    @prakasavigraha6104 2 роки тому +1

    This is quite instructive and all made a lot of sense. Thank you for being so generous to share your experience Nelson.

  • @user-zc2jf9tl3n
    @user-zc2jf9tl3n Рік тому +18

    Your lessons could be used not only to learn how to play chess, but also they give ability to study English listening. Especially for foreign people whose mother language is not English. Very nice. Thank you!

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed 2 роки тому +1

    What a fantastic video! Stuff I knew, but traps I didn’t, and lots of cool examples. Thank you Nelson 😃

  • @LucyMusic1999
    @LucyMusic1999 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for your really awesome and educational videos. I will so happy when I will have time to study more chess so I will check your videos again. It really helps. Wish your channel will grow fast, you deserve it!

  • @Thamboo111
    @Thamboo111 2 роки тому

    This video is so useful !!! Thanks to all work you done , have a nice day !

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog 2 роки тому

    Very, very useful lesson! Thank you!👍🏻

  • @Str8W.tm4rv
    @Str8W.tm4rv 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the lesson!

  • @lucasbortoluzzi9369
    @lucasbortoluzzi9369 2 роки тому +10

    6:25 actually you can attack the bishop with h3 and g4 and then move your knight

  • @chesspuzzles7644
    @chesspuzzles7644 Рік тому

    Ome reason I really like your videos Is that technically after the first half of the video, I would know my options, but after you show positions and I can try to figure out which is best. You also teach things you wouldn't expect to learn, like when he said attack in the direction of your pawns. I had never heard that before, so that really helps

  • @vincehomoki1612
    @vincehomoki1612 Рік тому

    Yes! This is exactly what I needed!

  • @vijaygarv
    @vijaygarv 2 роки тому

    Thank goodness I found this goldmine of a channel. Subbed 👍

  • @Link1209
    @Link1209 Рік тому

    Excellent video that presented info in a way a beginner like myself could digest. Thank you

  • @TheDestroyer7102
    @TheDestroyer7102 Рік тому

    Great vid Nelson! Keep it up!

  • @jonwill
    @jonwill 2 роки тому

    Well presented; thank you for sharing.

  • @nonemo138
    @nonemo138 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks, I figured most of this stuff out myself but I'll definitely try and see if I can incorporate that Philidor defense trap in my games. I'm starting to appreciate how important the F file is for tactics such as this.

  • @Kirito_wr
    @Kirito_wr 2 роки тому +20

    6:12 u dont actually lose the knight because u can just play h3 g4 and then move the knight

    • @jaideepshekhar4621
      @jaideepshekhar4621 Рік тому +1

      You wouldn't really want to do that on the kingside, but better than losing the Knight I suppose

    • @alexwangombe8534
      @alexwangombe8534 Рік тому

      After h3 black takes the knight, you take the bishop, then black takes your bishop on e2, so you're still down a piece

    • @awesome7732
      @awesome7732 Рік тому

      @@alexwangombe8534 he was saying play h3 instead of Be2 so at worst you'd lost two pawns

    • @alexwangombe8534
      @alexwangombe8534 Рік тому +1

      @@awesome7732 disregard my comment, i was looking at the position at 6:20 where there was a bishop on e2

  • @aru0109
    @aru0109 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Nelson. I love the video, it's a great summary for beginners who just don't know what they can do in general. However, for rating 1k+, I'd like to know specific reasonings for which option to choose and when. For example in what kinds of positions should you do x, y, or z, and why you'd want to choose one over another (forcing a certain exchange/transforming the pawn structure/creating imbalances/etc) I know a lot of it is part of opening theory but I feel like knowing these things will really help for example picking which variation to play depending on your goal and when you deviate from theory.

  • @oyebolaopeyemi8590
    @oyebolaopeyemi8590 2 роки тому +3

    At 11:30 , I think you have the option of Nxe5, if Bxd1, then Bxf7 is mate.
    If after Nxe5, dxe5, then you can just take the Bishop with the queen.
    If after Nxe5, d5 I think you can just do Bxd5 then if Nxd5, you can take the Bishop and continue from there

  • @karlbe8414
    @karlbe8414 Місяць тому

    Nelson, I think you are the best chess explainer on youtube! Like that checkmate trap and hope to one day use it.

  • @locrianphyrigian3779
    @locrianphyrigian3779 2 роки тому

    Loved it. So concise.

  • @absbox_
    @absbox_ 2 роки тому

    Great video I didn't know about chasing away that bishop in French defense tactic. Pretty neat

  • @oksananechyporuk9357
    @oksananechyporuk9357 2 роки тому

    thank you so much this video was very instructive :)

  • @jotarokujo7955
    @jotarokujo7955 2 роки тому

    Beautiful video. Yes the bishop pin is so annoying. Now I have more weapons/solutions to deal with it

  • @rs_fury5290
    @rs_fury5290 Рік тому

    me bring new to chess is kinda mind blown about all these moves and strategies and was happy that you are able to cover and explain everything in details. Thanks!

  • @ggcreeper962
    @ggcreeper962 2 роки тому

    That’s super helpful. Thanks!

  • @OlleJonasson-pr8lu
    @OlleJonasson-pr8lu 4 місяці тому

    Very good lesson ! Thank's.

  • @mabblers
    @mabblers 2 роки тому

    This was very good. Thanks guy!

  • @jonathanhaas8342
    @jonathanhaas8342 2 роки тому

    Very helpful, thank you

  • @Omar_Merican
    @Omar_Merican 2 роки тому

    awesome video Nelson! 😃

  • @darrylkassle361
    @darrylkassle361 2 роки тому +4

    Great video - very very apt considering it happens almost every game. Also could you possibly do this as a theme in general in terms of common tactics/ moves/ ideas that happen often and how to deal with them. For example I have trouble knowing when to keep the centre open or locked or when to break into the middle even what side to castle on at times when it is not glaringly obvious. This is why your channel has done so well because of content like that.

    • @Thamboo111
      @Thamboo111 2 роки тому

      Yes man , i have the same problem like you

    • @joshualee6559
      @joshualee6559 2 роки тому +1

      All I've ever heard is break it open if you ahead in development.

    • @darrylkassle361
      @darrylkassle361 2 роки тому

      @@joshualee6559 ok thanks. Sometimes though you get in positions where the development is relatively equal and all things considered otherwise I don’t know how to treat the centre specifically with regards to pawn play

  • @NidusFormicarum
    @NidusFormicarum Місяць тому

    Two other common approaches is 1. Playing Qb3 to attack the b7 pawn - especially when the knight is still on b8. This is often a good option when your opponent's bg4 or his/her follow-up turns out to be a mistake. This might compromise your pawn structure, but if you win a pawn and gain the bishop pair in the process this is often bad news for the second player.
    2. Putting a knight between your pinned piece and your queen (or rook). This is actually a theoretical move in some openings. Now your knight is heading for another square and you have dealt with an annoying pin. Capturing your knight and giving you doubled pawns is not always a good option for your opponent, since they will have to part with the bishop pair and giving you a file to work with. If they don't capture it your previously pinned knight is now free to move to a better square (even if that results in a new pin).

  • @Trikedin
    @Trikedin 2 роки тому +23

    My question is, how you can detect and work with pawn weaknisses. I know than doubler pawns, isolated pawns backwards pawns are usually weak but especially to detect them in a casual situation and work with them is a huge problem for me

    • @jrviade85
      @jrviade85 2 роки тому +1

      Its easy if you try (John Lennon said that lol)

    • @Thamboo111
      @Thamboo111 2 роки тому +3

      Try to blockade the pawn and pile up pieces on it to win them

    • @SilverStarGG
      @SilverStarGG 2 роки тому +1

      I have this problem as well

    • @3trilogy
      @3trilogy 2 роки тому +1

      @@Thamboo111 I like your suggestion.

    • @Thamboo111
      @Thamboo111 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks bro , I appreciate that 👍

  • @Fondil_Mabols
    @Fondil_Mabols 2 роки тому

    I always learn something from your videos. Thanks for the content

  • @jasonbourne4784
    @jasonbourne4784 2 роки тому

    Good info. Can you make more videos on how to play the middlegame?

  • @wigner
    @wigner 2 роки тому +1

    a neat corollary trick here with the first example, is that once you've protected the queen with the bishop block and the knight is no longer pinned, you can attack with that previously pinned knight and possibly pick up an unguarded bishop

  • @l.z.6553
    @l.z.6553 2 роки тому

    thanks, this happens VERY often in my games in low elo..

  • @kidthebilly7766
    @kidthebilly7766 2 роки тому +9

    i see these in the majority of my games as i play a pretty baseline opening
    i've watched like 15 of your videos and they've all helped me tremendously

  • @nabhneeldas5094
    @nabhneeldas5094 2 роки тому

    It is a great channel. It is an helpful video. Can you make a video on when to take time and when to look for calculation because sometime we take time when not needed.

  • @night_inhale
    @night_inhale 2 роки тому

    Hey, @Chessvibes, thanks for this video.

  • @alexlegard6245
    @alexlegard6245 2 роки тому

    You should study some example games in your opening, and see how the masters deal with the pins on their knights. Nelson did a great job explaining the common themes 😃

  • @ligth3977
    @ligth3977 Рік тому +1

    5:30 If you do Knight e5, and opponent takes queen, you can checkmate with bishop.

  • @AaronSmith-sx4ez
    @AaronSmith-sx4ez 2 роки тому +4

    A key consideration is if the enemy is fianchettoing their non-pinning bishop. If so, it is often easy kick the pinning bishop back with A3 or H3 because, the bishop will be trapped by their own pawn if they try to retreat. The other consideration is with h3/a3 pawn pushes, a good player can and will sack two pawns for a minor piece to open up your position and unleash an often devastating attack.

  • @joshualee6559
    @joshualee6559 2 роки тому

    I like your channel. Danya's channel is great, but I really like your focused topics that are very helpful to the club-level player.

  • @strenesperu9956
    @strenesperu9956 Рік тому

    This happens to me a lot. Funny thing, this video was uploaded on my b-day
    Ty for a super-delayed present!

  • @chuckdecker3765
    @chuckdecker3765 2 роки тому +1

    Many times, after pushing both pawns to kick back the bishop, like at @18:06, moving the formerly-pinned knight to a5 traps the bishop, giving you the option of taking for a knight

  • @jrviade85
    @jrviade85 2 роки тому

    11:48 I thought of those moves exactly as you showed! Damn I'm getting better and better lol 😌

  • @Omar_Merican
    @Omar_Merican 2 роки тому +9

    also, i think that there's a 5th way to deal with the bishop pin on the knight...unpinning the queen with Qd3 or Qd6 with white and black respectively.

    • @egnite8942
      @egnite8942 2 роки тому

      And Ke2 or Ke7 to unpin the King for White and black respectively 😂

    • @Omar_Merican
      @Omar_Merican 2 роки тому

      @@egnite8942😑

    • @Omar_Merican
      @Omar_Merican 2 роки тому

      @@egnite8942 the bishop will skewer the king and queen 😭😂

    • @egnite8942
      @egnite8942 2 роки тому

      @@Omar_Merican c'mon I'm just joking

    • @egnite8942
      @egnite8942 2 роки тому

      @@Omar_Merican we can black with the Knight or pawn

  • @mastrake
    @mastrake 2 роки тому

    Well done!

  • @xlsfd
    @xlsfd Рік тому

    10:40 That is the Légall Trap, also known as the Blackburne Trap. The correct response to Nxe5 would be Nxe5 or dxe5, after which White can take the bishop with the queen.

  • @JEC2007
    @JEC2007 Рік тому

    Helpful video.

  • @he11ojake
    @he11ojake 2 роки тому

    awesome vid as usual

  • @Altus2001
    @Altus2001 2 роки тому

    Bravo! this series of little vignette videos are very helpful. Thank you Nelson!

  • @lukkamayer9698
    @lukkamayer9698 2 роки тому

    In the first position shown where bishop g4 was the last move played by black I some times play bishop d2 with a cool idea. For example, bishop d2, knight f6 and then knight e2 attacking the bishop on b4, if the bishop trades then I recapture with the knight on f3, if they capture my knight on f3 then I take their bishop on b4 and if the bishop on b4 moves away then I play knight g3 and h3 next.

  • @flicker6741
    @flicker6741 2 роки тому

    I was a 1500 and still got stressed about this knight pin problem. This video helped me figured out what should I do next in some game maybe, thanks for the video anyways.

  • @tomasbizet3484
    @tomasbizet3484 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you sir for doing this for free. You are the best for taking your time to teach us many things about chess. THANK YOU!

  • @argentina8312
    @argentina8312 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @EliLippy
    @EliLippy 2 роки тому

    thanks nelson

  • @xxlCortez
    @xxlCortez 8 місяців тому

    The best is when they try this pin on the queen but you can use it to put a check-fork on the pinning piece with the queen.

  • @zdude1793
    @zdude1793 2 роки тому

    very good education video. but very loud mouse movements. Either way earned a sub haha

  • @Badolasantosh
    @Badolasantosh 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @deadbully1337
    @deadbully1337 2 роки тому +1

    i swear this guy reminds me of one of the chris hansen episodes! he look so similar xd

  • @thenateyoulove
    @thenateyoulove 2 роки тому

    Your views per video are getting more and more consistent. Hopefully you see that means you're on the right track, love you

  • @thomasgrabowski2202
    @thomasgrabowski2202 6 місяців тому

    Oh I need this video BAD lol! :P

  • @goalsavior
    @goalsavior Рік тому +1

    As someone who used to freak out and panic at the sign of a pin, I appreciate this video

  • @gustavowatari1295
    @gustavowatari1295 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @ethanna1684
    @ethanna1684 2 роки тому +2

    What about h3 bh5 g4 to attack bishop with tempo to protect the knight. 6:30

  • @ReinaldosChessLessons
    @ReinaldosChessLessons 2 роки тому

    Nice vid!

  • @sweatypickle1288
    @sweatypickle1288 7 місяців тому

    Can you also play knight e5 at 11:30 or am I just negative elo?

  • @justinpoole8227
    @justinpoole8227 2 роки тому

    Can you explain how in the beginning you got the dark squared bishop to that position with your own pawn blocking the way?

  • @domlosurdo3432
    @domlosurdo3432 2 роки тому

    9:42 awesome

  • @user-vm5lb4qt7y
    @user-vm5lb4qt7y 2 місяці тому

    Puting bishop e2 to remove the pin on the queen is such a passive move, said GM Igor

  • @MurshidIslam
    @MurshidIslam 2 роки тому

    If I have the opponent's knight pinned, what factors should I consider to decide whether to take that knight in exchange for my bishop or not? Can you do a video on that?

  • @stag6161
    @stag6161 2 роки тому

    Usually when I get this pin on my kingside knight I can develop my queens bishop to guard d4/d5 if they trade bishops on e3/e6 I take with the f pawn keeping d4/d5 covered and opening my rook to recapture my kings knight... but one thing I don't see much is when, instead of trading bishops on e3/e6 they play Bd4/Bd5, I know I don't want to trade bishops in that case, if opponents knight is ready to recapture I've been playing Qe7/Qe2 and moving my queens knight to play c3/c6 and attack the bishop. Did I manage to make sense there? Anybody have any other approach to deal with the bishop coming to d4/d5?

  • @drone231
    @drone231 2 роки тому

    cool stuff

  • @Karlsson1976
    @Karlsson1976 Рік тому

    At 12:05 I would make the move Nxe5 because my follow up would be Bxf7#

  • @brass4235
    @brass4235 2 роки тому

    @9:50 when talking about the Legal Trap, is it totally necessary to kick the bishop back to h5? Would it be the same to go Nf3-Ne5 with the black Bishop on g4? I ask because once black takes BxQd1, is it not still perpetual check until Nc3-Nd5#?

    • @brass4235
      @brass4235 2 роки тому

      I see why kicking the bishop is best. After reading the comments further, I see that if the opponent doesn't fall for the trap they can take the N on e5 and protect the Bishop... Didn't see that at 1st glance

    • @ChessVibesOfficial
      @ChessVibesOfficial  2 роки тому

      Yup you got it 👍

  • @unh0lys0da16
    @unh0lys0da16 2 роки тому

    on 12:47 you say that doubled isolated pawns are bad, which is true, but if in this position black is already castled and white is not there is also a pro to this, which is an open G file a rook which can come to g1 looking right at the enemy king. I think in general beginners are too afraid of doubled pawns and it's one of the biggest contributing factor in them not getting better. At some point you've gotta look concretely at the position and ask yourself what you gain from doubling your pawns, because sometimes doubled pawns are surprisingly good and doubled pawns almost always cause a file to open.

    • @arthilas_
      @arthilas_ Рік тому

      Agreed. Another example for good double pawns in the opening is if you play Be3 in response to the enemy's Bc5 and they decide to trade bishops. You capture back with your f-pawn, resulting in double pawns in the e-file. But you also have an open f-file your rook can use once you have castled kingside and more pawns to control the center with.

  • @shinobi6497
    @shinobi6497 Рік тому

    If the pawn attacks the knight can you chase it away so you ether get a trade of pieces or undo the pin

  • @hertha7224
    @hertha7224 2 роки тому

    what about when you castle, they pin your kingside knight, you attack with h3 (or h6) and they protect the bishop with their rook pawn? Yeah you get a bishop but you open up your king to all kinds of nasty positions. What would you recommend?

  • @apeejaychess
    @apeejaychess 11 місяців тому

    At 15:00 you could play 1 . Bxe4 fxe4 2. Qxe4 and we actually dont care we give black an half open file

  • @runaldinjo
    @runaldinjo 2 роки тому

    How about placing the knight on the second row (e2 or d2)? Then the pin wont work due to f3 og c3. Any good?

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 2 роки тому

    9:07 This is Légall's mate, named after the winner of a game Légall -- Saint-Brie, Paris, 1750. That game didn't go exactly as described in this video but the idea is the same.
    And the reason why White *needs* to kick Black's bishop with 5 h3 is that, if Black's bishop stayed on g4, then 5 Nxe5 is now bad because 5 ... Nxe5! defending the bishop, and White's attack disappears.

    • @soulburner8095
      @soulburner8095 2 роки тому

      Once I played with Black and first I didn't see, that Legall's Mate is possible, but after I played h6 to let the Bishop go to h4, then I saw it, the Legall's Mate and then I noticed, with h6 I letted the Risk, that if the Opponent would see the Legall's Mate, that I could lose a Piece Disapear, because if the Opponent would take with the Knight my Knight, I just take the Bishop on h4 with the Queen.
      Spoiler: Legall's Mate worked, my Opponent was 1600 or like that xD

  • @CubeforFun
    @CubeforFun 2 роки тому

    What do you think of Qd3 to deal with a knight pinned to the queen?

  • @SarahConnor618
    @SarahConnor618 Рік тому +1

    It depends on the player. Personally I value the diagonal walker more than the horse despite it havinf equal points. So i woikd chase them off with ur pawns. If they eat ur horse, their loss. If they run, also their loss as they wasted moves and you gained board position.

    • @thecousindeci1103
      @thecousindeci1103 Рік тому

      Well technically they don't have equal value. The bishop is actually worth 3.33 compared to the knights 3.05 I think evaluated by the engine. So a 1/3 of a pawn more than the knight which can add up quickly at the higher level

  • @salamon9114
    @salamon9114 2 роки тому +1

    Uhmm can u make a video explaining how to fully utilize bishops like in high level chess sometimes players just retreat their bishops to the back ranks I would love a detailed explanation regarding proper positioning of bishops

    • @ChessVibesOfficial
      @ChessVibesOfficial  2 роки тому +2

      Bishop video is coming soon although I think it will be more basic than what you might be looking for. Maybe I can circle back sometime with something more advanced

  • @user-je2im6mh3t
    @user-je2im6mh3t 7 місяців тому

    6:07 You don't lose the knight because of h3, counterattacking the bishop.

  • @evancrow2191
    @evancrow2191 2 роки тому

    I am just started out.
    And my knights get pinned constantly.
    So after that show of the trap.
    I play a few rounds.
    And My Knight does NOT GET PINNED AGAIN AT ALL!!!
    WHY IS IT THAT WHEN I AM READY FOR IT. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN!!!
    Anyway. Thanks this helps a lot.

  • @Stefan-xh1hi
    @Stefan-xh1hi 2 роки тому

    6:10 h3, g4 and white is fine right?

  • @wilu9814
    @wilu9814 2 роки тому

    I usually dont care about pins and break them while developing Queen or castling sometimes i use one of the solutions from video but it's only when there is real danger or a tactic

  • @stafey7659
    @stafey7659 2 роки тому

    I feel pawns are very useful for getting rid of some of these formations

  • @taimaishu99
    @taimaishu99 Рік тому

    10:28 trap is niceee

  • @waleedibrahim4558
    @waleedibrahim4558 2 роки тому

    Hi, what kind of chess software you are using in your PC is there a free one I can download? Thanks

  • @wiktoraugustyn1149
    @wiktoraugustyn1149 2 роки тому

    Actually in the position at 5:55 white doesn’t lose the knight because of h3

  • @Km0577
    @Km0577 25 днів тому

    Every example I see shows bishop retreating on that pawn.. they AALLLLEWAYYSSSS trade and make my pawns all messed up… how do I punish that?

  • @Cecilia-ky3uw
    @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 роки тому

    Before i watched I usually just shrugged them off using the flank pawns in a and h(haven't watched)

  • @Markyto973
    @Markyto973 2 роки тому +1

    You didn't talk how the Queen can move out the pin but steel protect the piece. But other than that, a very good video