This is very powerful opening! Most Fried Livers only learn the main lines and the trap line, so if you throw this opening right on their face, they'll not able to remove it out of their face!
I’d just play the traxler. I know all the lines because I decided to waste my time learning them Bf1 is the best move for white after b5 and it transposes to the ulvestad variation.
@@Rapscallion-ug1kz Actually no. With best play it is a draw after Kf1 Qe7 Nxh8 d5 exd5 Nd4 d6 Qxd6 Nf7 Qe7 c3 Bg5 Qa4+ Nd7 Kxf2 Qh4+ Kf1 Bh5 cxd4 Qf4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qf4+ and there is a repetition of moves and it is a draw (yes I remember all of this). When white plays c3 in this variation, there is only 2 other moves that draw for white (this is the only place where white does not have a forced move), which are d3 and h3 (there are too many variations so I haven’t really looked at them, but stockfish says it is drawn). This means that you are incorrect, and it is not losing after white takes the bishop. Despite this, the traxler is technically losing, if white plays the bishop sacrifice line with Bxf7+ rather than Nxf7, however this is still rather dangerous for white.
@@BobChess When you enter these wild variations, no one is ready. Personally I play the traxler as black and white (the knight sacrifice line) and win most of my games because the opponent doesn’t know what to do.
I’m a big of GothamChess, but when he tried to explain this theory, he’s trying to dramatize the whole video and we end up not really absorbing information as much as videos like this. Thank you for being straight to the point!!
I only seen he talked about this in opening tier list, which he tried to cut time by just showing some lines. Imo he already has a decent traxler video, which is why he doesn't wanna make another fried liver related opening
Sure enough, about 2 hours after watching this video, I had a chance to counter this attack. The knight went for my Kb7 pawn, I advanced the queen, they blocked their King in with their Rook and Bishop, I landed a smother mate. Victory never felt so awesome, thanks a bunch!
yeah but don’t you think even a little bit you didn’t deserve the win? i mean i understand even the old chess players read books for improve their game but still, you haven’t thought about this plan. you just coppied. how can you feel smart after a copy paste job?
@@ercihanates6504Same goes for the vast amount of players using the Fried Liver attack. Also openings is mostly something you study and essentially just copying the plays.
Isn't that how chess works? You play a game, in this case watch a video of a game, you think about it and memorize it, and when there is the chance to remember this specific plan, you apply the plan. There is no way to not think in chess. Memorizing is thinking. What you're saying is what I see as, 'ah shit, i'm not allowed to study for this test, because then i'm not thinking about the exam myself. I need to just know all the answers.' And I think it's perfectly fine to study moves if they're an annoyence to you in some games and you don't know the right counterplay from the get-go. It's impossible to 'remember' chess in general anyway since there are too much variables, so memorizing common moves (or a specific game which is playing out the same way as a game you've played before) with counterplay is perfectly fine and smart to do.@@ercihanates6504
Great video, but there's one thing I'm missing. You said that white only has one safe place for its bishop: b3, so we take with the knight. But why can't they just go back to c4?
I ran this on Stockfish, it says to play Qc6, if white defends the rook pawn with a pawn forward you take the undefended Bishop, if white defends the Bishop with a pawn you take the rook pawn, at any case after taking the rook pawn you take hes knight, and if white defends the rook pawn with the undefended Bishop bringing the Bishop all the way back you fork the right rook and his King doing check with the Knights, and white ends up loosing the Queen 😂😂
When I was a club player, say, roughly between 1990 and 2010 and rated around 1700, EVERYBODY in East Jutland played Nd4! So it was by no means a rare move - it was more or less the main line! There ARE ways for White to deal with it, but those ways tend to take all the fun out of the game, which is not what you're looking for if you play Ng5. And still White has to play super accurately, while Black is having a much easier time. And if there's any fun, it tends to favour Black. That's why I quit playing Ng5.
Just play c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4, where white is behind in development although has better central control, and is up a pawn, resulting in a better endgame for white.
Accordong to chess pros and engine that move Ng5 is bad move, when you should develop your other pieces first, but most people want to go for satisfying quick attack to get some material for themselves, so they dont care, that according to chess pros and chess engines Ng5 is bad move as your fourth move in the game.
@@jout738GM Wesley So recommends it in his 1. E4 course, many top players play it, and it’s the second most popular move for masters, and white has a huge winrate, I suspect the only reason it isn’t played as much as d3 is because of how black can suppress it and lead to a draw.
Hey Nelson, this is the first opening trap I’ve really committed to learn as a relative beginner and it is so good! It’s something I can actually play and it’s generally really effective, it almost feels cheap. So thank you! Love the rest of your content too.
I love this opening and playing both sides because there are so many ways to play it. I prefer the surprise move for black 5...b5!! White usually doesn't know how to react, so a little bit a prep by black can get a quick advantage.
I firstly knew this line from a Ben Finegold lecture about the Fried Liver, Nd4 (instead of the common Na5) was suggested by a kid, and Ben suggests this is super complicated and the main line theory goes c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5. I didn't understand the point of Bf1, just remembered it, but this video nicely shows why cxd4 is problematic for white. Also there are quite a few master games in the main line and black is doing fine even in the main line. Conclusion: Fritz Attack > Traxler.
2:20 -- очень редко встречается ход d6. У белых дальше нет никакого перевеса, очень редко так играют. Белые должны играть c3, и давить на пешку е, после чего у них гораздо лучше, они играют на победу.
The traxler was the first opening I really studied and it’s still one of my favourites. But these look like so much fun, I might have to rotate the traxler out for a while to try these out!
Until you start going up against people who know what they’re doing so your games will go (after b5) Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4 and white lacks slightly in development but has better control of the centre and is up a pawn (also only has 1 isolated pawn compared to black’s 2 isolated pawns).
Thanks especially for being concise, yet reviewing what we're trying to do. This response to the Fried is way more dynamic than the Na5 that I normally play. Thanks.
I play the fried liver with white and I know my theory. I haven’t looked at this in a while but I’m pretty sure at 6:52 the move for white is bishop back to f1. This is also a move in another b5 line.
Yeah, what I don't get is why he is saying the "only possible move" is Bishop to B3 and then you can take it with your Knight, but why can;t the Bishop move to C4 and then as you say, it can escape back to F1 next go if required? I have tried this about a dozen times against the computer and it NEVER moves the Bishop back to B3. That's a dumb move IMO, or am I missing something?
3:25 what’s keeping white from moving bishop to C4 instead? Would the game plan be similar after that, or would black want to attack that with pawn b5 or something
I'm not good at chess but I dont see why I couldn't move the Bishop to c4. He says the only safe option is b3 but how could it be safe of you got taken by a knight and you stacking pawns to retake. Thats just double bad for you. But no pice is attacking c4. Maybe its just my 1000elo brain i can't comprehend something here but someone shuld tell my why white plays b3.
As a scicillian defense player, the fried liver makes no sense because there is no black pawn on e5 so the fried liver and any scholars mate attack gets met with Ne5 hitting the bishop while simulataneously protecting c2.
I'm 1600+. Personally, I believe that the two knights is the best 1...e4 defensive option. I respond to the fried liver w/ 5...e5. It opens black up for tactical play and white has to immediately defend his bishop.
I'm 300 elo rn, started chess literally yesterday and so far have seen two opponents try the fried liver opening on me. First one I got tricked, second one was able to get out of it myself. I guess this opening has become really common if it's in literal beginner elo
4:30 well, as a amateur, i analysed the position and we only have moves for the queen, the knight is pinned Don't move (random move): Rxe2+, now Kxe2 it's the best option for white, the battery it's a problem, Qe6+, Kf1 and white is saved Qe3: Strong best move candidate, if Rxe3+, dxe3 and the white is saved again Qe4: a inaccuracy, now we have a double attack on queen and no protection, Rxe4+ and the white king lost castling rights too Qe5: a inaccuracy, probably will be Rxe5+ Kxe5 Qxe5+ and the white king lost his castling rights again Qe6 or Qe7: ABSOLUTE BLUNDER, i will explain the both separately Qe6+: you put your queen in a triple attack, Qxe6+ will make a battery and the checkmate will come soon Qe7+: same, but now it's a quadruple attack Qxe8+: another strong best move candidate, the king or the knights will take e8 and you can castle, and the white king is saved most one time My recommendation, Random move, Qe3 and Qxe8+
After 6. ... b5, I thought the normal line is 7. Bf1. And now white gets more of a chance to develop his pieces. That's why I normally play 5. ... Na5.
1:54, what if white plays d3 to kick the knight? White may feel uncomfortable as the pawn blocks its own knight, but the black's knight's place is also very awkward. If it retreats to f5, and white castles, it seems the white has an advantage.
I've seen this so many times and always struggled with it. I always got out of the forking threat but this is a much more elegant solution to the problem! 👍️
This is my favorite trap. I've done it dozens of times and it never fails to make me laugh. Even if they don't give you the checkmate the number of queens I've taken is great. Edit: Also, you forgot to mention the line where they defend the bishop instead of taking your rook and you take their queen.
@@randyreal5871 Again you take the pawn Qg2 as with the previous line. Of course they have to defend Rook Rf1. You then attack their queen with your bishop Bg4. Most opponents move their queen up one space Qd2, to which you can fork the queen and king Nf3. If they do the slightly smarter pawn move f3, you just take with the bishop Bf3. Now they have 3 options. 1) Sac the rook Rf3, at which point you take with the knight Nf3 and they have to sac the queen to stop the mate. 2) Sac the queen Qf3 immediately and you take with the knight Nf3. 3) Try to save the queen by moving it forward one space Qd2. At which point check their king with your knight Nc2, and they have to sac the queen to take the knight.
Yes, while most people propably find it annoying. I find it so satisfying doing it myself and succeding in it, because being rock down will then show in the endgame giving advantage to yourself. My new chess account been created in last year November 15, but I have played this frank liver attack oppening still over 200 times with 53% win rate, 44% lose rate and rest are draws. I used to play this opening before chess app in roblox chess rekting noobs and thats why I have been playing this opening a lot for last two years. This is much better trap, than any of the queen move traps, because most know how to stop them atleast.
@@pebblepod30If black plays d5 I just take with bishop and that's just losing a queen wich is stupid. But someone for the love of god tell me why bishop c4 is bad im going insane here.
This is like the famous Blackburn gambit which follows this line: e4-e5, Nf3-Nc6, Bc4-Nd4!! The point is the same, lure the knight in this "fork", just from a different angle, instead of Ng5 they go Nxe5. Then we play ...Qg5 and we have Nxf7-Qxg2, Rf1-Qxe4+, Be2-Nf3# It's the exact same position both with the knight and the bishop capture. It only differs when white plays c3 instead of d6. I personally prefer playing the Blackburn gambit because this makes them immediately think you've blundered a pawn, whereas if you play the two knights defence they aren't necessarily forced into playing the fried liver and the game may transpose to a boring Italian variation.
Heres a tip for 400-800ish. after ng5 play bc5 and after they play nxf7 play bxf2 after kxf2 play nxc4+ and no matter what they do play qf6(+) most of the time people will stumble intl mate in one on either g8 or c8.
You are correct on the first point, I am just blind, but unless they play ke2 qf6 is as far as I can tell, simply better. If kg1 or ke1, they get checkmated, if kf1, they have to respond to check either moving to e1, g1, or e2. E1 and g1 lose to qf2#, or after e2, nd4+, kd3 play nf2, forking the king and queen, if ke1, qf2#, and if ke3, qf2+, if kd3, qg3+, kxe4, qf4+, if they go to d5, there is probably a checkmate somewhere, and if kg3, after qg3+ there is at least a draw and probably some kind of mate. Also in some of those paths they could have blocked with queen, but every single one hangs. If after kxe4 they play kf3, qf6+, if kg4, h5+, and after kh3, nf2 forks the king and queen, and there's probably a mate there. If ke2, qf2+, kd3, qg2+, if ke2, forced draw, if kxe4, qf4+, if kd5, qd4#, if kd3, qd4+, ke2, qxc4+, and you win the bishop and the knight, and you are up a pawn. If ke3, qf4, and either move I've covered already. Tell me if I missed anything.
After watching this video, in the very next game I got into the exact same position. I managed to play it through as you recommended and I could take an easy win 😊 thank you, great guidance!
I’m always on the hunt, for great chess videos, with full explanations. But I’ve never come across, a chess channel, that gives such an easy, and great explanation, from both sides, easy to understand, no stupid, long winded explanations. You sir, keep it so simple, and frankly, the best chess channel, I’ve ever come across. Keep up the great work.
@abagofwater1076 I believe that most people, when writing, use commas to simulate their speech patterns. Maybe he just talks with many pauses in between phrases; but if that's true, it sounds like someone who might have a disability lol
Because its not good If white just plays reasonable moves they can easily get a winning position Playing stuff like the traxler is much much better against the fried liver
ngl as a 600 I saw this trap yesterday but it was a Giuoco Piano Four Knights instead, and I panicked and castled, then thought it was a bad move (though I checked game review and it said best move) tbh it was a horrible game for both sides, I only won because opponent was too focused on attacking me (they had M2) and hung M1 which resulted in my win
At least you recognize the patterns at 600. I’m 1050 rn and I don’t even know what the hell you were talking about lol I literally just wing it or play the hippo
Four knights giuoco piano sucks tbh, i think after 3.Bc5 its like the 4th best move according to stockfish but imo its 6th best move because i love the evans gambit and the max lange attack
I usually just play the bishop before the knight so I can castle if they move their knight up for the fork. But this is much better! Looking forward to trying it out!
ive seen so many beginner videos about the fried liver but somehow i can just never wrap my head around good responses to it, hopefully this video will cement some counterplay into my head lol
I’d say you actually don’t want to go for fried liver as a beginner if you want to play e4. There’s so many lines it could deviate. At move 3 when you finally get the Italian black can play Bc5, Be7, d6, f5 and Nf6. All of them is a good move and only one ‘might’ leads to fried liver. I’d recommend something like danish gambit since there’s not as much move to remember. Afterward you can start learning more complicated opening one at a time and saves complicated stuff like Ruy Lopez for last.
@@ศกรโสมาภา i never go for fried liver as white but the move order is probably the most common in all of chess so youre bound to face it at the start of your chess journey
Ran this line through stockfish. Unfortunately if white plays the best responses after all the book moves they are ahead with a +.86 advantage in their favor
Queen goes to c6 and threatens both bishop and g2 pawn to continue the attack. If bishop goes back to original position, then queen to c2 to exchange Queens and land a fork with the Knight...
I played competitively between 1995-1998... I got to 1600 And this was super uncommon. What I recall is trade pawns, trade pieces, knight attacks queen
Great video, Nelson! I see this attack consistently; I usually respond by advancing my H1 or A1 pawn in advance of it. But sometimes, I overlook the threat and get decimated.
3:24 "...and going back to b3 is really the only safe square for [their bishop]" Hardly safe since you then took it with your knight. Wouldn't e4 be safe, or am I missing something?
I was stuck at 1350-1400 for like 3 to 4 months. But I made a few changes to my game and within 2 months got to 1700. If your interested to know how do reply cuz im not gonna waste my time writing all that to someone who wouldnt read it anyway
I use the Fried liver attack a lot, I can say most people don’t know how to defend it. They might unintentionally defend it, I use it because if you know your moves you can see wether he’s blocking it so I just stick with the Sicilian and still have better development. These counter moves aren’t bad but they only work against someone who doesn’t know his moves (only main line) once you let the bishop get into position, irrespective of wether the fried liver is executed or not you are already at a disadvantage.
I'm old and not even a club player, but I've been confused over when the Two Knights Defense went from a common "romantic era" opening to being called the Fried Liver.
The Two Knights Defense (3... Nf6) is still called the Two Knights defense. 4. Ng5 is called the Knight Attack, but a lot of people mistakenly call this the Fried Liver Attack because that's what White is aiming for. 6. Nxf7 (only after 4... d5 5. exd5 Nxd5) is the Fried Liver Attack or Fegatello Attack. Playing 5... Nd4 instead of 5... Nxd5 completely avoids the Fried Liver Attack and this is called the Fritz Variation.
@@EternalSilverDragon Yes, and also the main line 5...Na5 of the Two Knights Defence avoids the Fried Liver Attack 6 Nxf7. In fact some analysis considers 6 d4 even stronger, but less spectacular.
1:11 Instead of this just copy and move bishop next to white bishop when they take you attack the pawn with your bish knight and queen which leads to an eventually checkmate
Love it. Watched your vid about 5 days ago and have had two games since to put it to use. First one (daily game) is still going but defense worked and the game goes on. Second game (just finished) worked exactly as you showed with the black queen checking and white having to decide between lost queen or smothered mate. New subscriber. New fan.
As someone who randomly moves pieces and doesn't really form a strategy until late game...this fascinates me how there can be a strategy for opening moves and counters.
2200 here always playing fried liver with white. Of course after Nd4 the right next move for is c3 and when black plays b5 the bishop retreats to Bf1. If black then takes on d5, white can play Nxf7 and afterwards cxd4. Very complicated position but white avoids all the trappings of the dangerous move Nd4.
rather than playing 4 knights get ur bishop out first so when the start fried liver u simply castle then if they continue they will get a rook and a pawn for a knight n bishop n u will have a better position
5:52 In this position its like to be Blackburne Shilling Gambit. Because in the blackburne gambit and this position if he takes pawn with knight you do the same tactic.
Between this and the Traxler that pretty much seals the deal as far as not playing 4. Ng5 against the Two Knights. Better to play 4. d3 and transpose into the Giuoco Pianissimo.
Experienced player: « there is no trap ». Three players in their 25-35 tried setting early traps in the Lille intl Blitz (5+3s) were quite disappointed when they were checkmated.
3:35 Don't say "bishop's controlling here", people will think you're meant to take if they play Nh3. That's a terrible trade for black. just leave it there, it's pretty much out of the game.
As a chessable nerd who studies thousands of variations, when black plays Nd4, I'll play c3. After b5, Bf1 is a novelty. And white is already much better. It is still playable though.
No, it was one guy that fell for it 347,000 times
That's probably me 😅
Nah that’s me
Well then he wouldn't be between 1000 to 1600 😊
he fell for it between 1000-1600 elo
That's actually crazy
Great video. Good pace, well organized, no extra dialogue, no gimmicks, just clear informative chess instruction. UA-cam needs more people like you.
Well said
True bro, made me subscribed instantly
All his videos are great
I’m 1300 and I see this every other game as black it feels like, thank you for this
How as1300
Me too I'm 1300
Its better just playing bishop to c5 instead of knight to f6 at the opening and get out of the liver attack fully
I'm 2000 rated player
I'm 1300 and i see this 0 times.
2:22
D Pawn push 2:40
-Bishop take 3:04
-Knight take 5:00
C Pawn push 6:50
what does this do? you would need to learn all of them anyways
It's timestamps for quick reference
This is very powerful opening! Most Fried Livers only learn the main lines and the trap line, so if you throw this opening right on their face, they'll not able to remove it out of their face!
I’d just play the traxler. I know all the lines because I decided to waste my time learning them Bf1 is the best move for white after b5 and it transposes to the ulvestad variation.
@@Aperson-kq7pt traxler is losing if you dont take the bishop as white
@6Y02 Chan Cheung Man because black doesn't prepare neither. That's why white wins. It actually very ok line(+0.8)
@@Rapscallion-ug1kz Actually no. With best play it is a draw after Kf1 Qe7 Nxh8 d5 exd5 Nd4 d6 Qxd6 Nf7 Qe7 c3 Bg5 Qa4+ Nd7 Kxf2 Qh4+ Kf1 Bh5 cxd4 Qf4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qf4+ and there is a repetition of moves and it is a draw (yes I remember all of this). When white plays c3 in this variation, there is only 2 other moves that draw for white (this is the only place where white does not have a forced move), which are d3 and h3 (there are too many variations so I haven’t really looked at them, but stockfish says it is drawn). This means that you are incorrect, and it is not losing after white takes the bishop. Despite this, the traxler is technically losing, if white plays the bishop sacrifice line with Bxf7+ rather than Nxf7, however this is still rather dangerous for white.
@@BobChess When you enter these wild variations, no one is ready. Personally I play the traxler as black and white (the knight sacrifice line) and win most of my games because the opponent doesn’t know what to do.
What if my opponent watching this video
I’m a big of GothamChess, but when he tried to explain this theory, he’s trying to dramatize the whole video and we end up not really absorbing information as much as videos like this. Thank you for being straight to the point!!
GothamChess only made video about this attack two years ago, while nowdays this frank liver attack seems even more common, than it was two years ago.
I only seen he talked about this in opening tier list, which he tried to cut time by just showing some lines. Imo he already has a decent traxler video, which is why he doesn't wanna make another fried liver related opening
i don't watch GothamChess
Agree
Gothamchess sux to the point that it should be on your "Don't recommend channel"
Sure enough, about 2 hours after watching this video, I had a chance to counter this attack. The knight went for my Kb7 pawn, I advanced the queen, they blocked their King in with their Rook and Bishop, I landed a smother mate. Victory never felt so awesome, thanks a bunch!
yeah but don’t you think even a little bit you didn’t deserve the win? i mean i understand even the old chess players read books for improve their game but still, you haven’t thought about this plan. you just coppied. how can you feel smart after a copy paste job?
@@ercihanates6504Same goes for the vast amount of players using the Fried Liver attack. Also openings is mostly something you study and essentially just copying the plays.
@@ercihanates6504 Чувак, это буквально смысл игры в шахматы.
Isn't that how chess works? You play a game, in this case watch a video of a game, you think about it and memorize it, and when there is the chance to remember this specific plan, you apply the plan. There is no way to not think in chess. Memorizing is thinking. What you're saying is what I see as, 'ah shit, i'm not allowed to study for this test, because then i'm not thinking about the exam myself. I need to just know all the answers.' And I think it's perfectly fine to study moves if they're an annoyence to you in some games and you don't know the right counterplay from the get-go. It's impossible to 'remember' chess in general anyway since there are too much variables, so memorizing common moves (or a specific game which is playing out the same way as a game you've played before) with counterplay is perfectly fine and smart to do.@@ercihanates6504
@@Елисей.Яшин ne diyon amın oğlu gel ben de kendi dilimi konuşuyom hadi nasıl olacak şimdi
i am a beginner (450 rated) and i still see this once every 3-4 games as black, and this will surely be helpful, thanks!
I’m 500 and I see this so much 😅
650 and I don’t see this
@@BloonPlays may be you will soon enough
You wont be able to defend this way under 800 elo
@@Boubaznavour yeah probably, actually i never even tried it when i was at that level because i later noticed that it says "best for 1000-1600"
Great video, but there's one thing I'm missing. You said that white only has one safe place for its bishop: b3, so we take with the knight. But why can't they just go back to c4?
Slide queen to c6, take pawn and attack rook, then take horse?
I ran this on Stockfish, it says to play Qc6, if white defends the rook pawn with a pawn forward you take the undefended Bishop, if white defends the Bishop with a pawn you take the rook pawn, at any case after taking the rook pawn you take hes knight, and if white defends the rook pawn with the undefended Bishop bringing the Bishop all the way back you fork the right rook and his King doing check with the Knights, and white ends up loosing the Queen 😂😂
Pawn and queen attacks
I replied to the same question with what I believe the answer is in the comment above yours from dharmikkids7397
When I was a club player, say, roughly between 1990 and 2010 and rated around 1700, EVERYBODY in East Jutland played Nd4! So it was by no means a rare move - it was more or less the main line!
There ARE ways for White to deal with it, but those ways tend to take all the fun out of the game, which is not what you're looking for if you play Ng5. And still White has to play super accurately, while Black is having a much easier time. And if there's any fun, it tends to favour Black. That's why I quit playing Ng5.
Just play c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4, where white is behind in development although has better central control, and is up a pawn, resulting in a better endgame for white.
Accordong to chess pros and engine that move Ng5 is bad move, when you should develop your other pieces first, but most people want to go for satisfying quick attack to get some material for themselves, so they dont care, that according to chess pros and chess engines Ng5 is bad move as your fourth move in the game.
@@jout738 Ng5 is fun. That’s why people play it. Also it guarantees white to win a pawn so that’s good too.
@@jout738GM Wesley So recommends it in his 1. E4 course, many top players play it, and it’s the second most popular move for masters, and white has a huge winrate, I suspect the only reason it isn’t played as much as d3 is because of how black can suppress it and lead to a draw.
And also, the engine recommends it, do you have any proof saying that it’s bad?
3:26 the bishop could have gone to c4
Attack with b5
@@DhoklaAboveVadapavyeah but the guy said Bb3 was only safe position and c4 keeps the bishop
Just was looking for this!
Qc6 looks quite strong after Bc4
Yes that's wht I thought. So rook and queen lol
5:36 it's like the blackburne shilling gambit trap
My thoughts exactly! It's the same pattern and idea, just executed in a more obscure and believable way.
Hey Nelson, this is the first opening trap I’ve really committed to learn as a relative beginner and it is so good! It’s something I can actually play and it’s generally really effective, it almost feels cheap. So thank you! Love the rest of your content too.
Search Halloween gambit
You have to know this
Here's the moves it starts with
Funny thing is this is a more general case.
They dont know they just see this
@@ricardomiguel9932 slide the queen and bait it
@@merbabenegeThey’re gonna take it (Blunder)
@@TheyGonHitThePentagon Big mistake resign now
Bro tried to play fried liver after i saw that video. He regrets it.
Thank you! What about other white options after d6 Q:d6 K:f7 Qc6?
I love this opening and playing both sides because there are so many ways to play it.
I prefer the surprise move for black 5...b5!! White usually doesn't know how to react, so a little bit a prep by black can get a quick advantage.
Love that opening as well because the only move that gives white an advantage is Bf1 which is really hard to find
I firstly knew this line from a Ben Finegold lecture about the Fried Liver, Nd4 (instead of the common Na5) was suggested by a kid, and Ben suggests this is super complicated and the main line theory goes c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5. I didn't understand the point of Bf1, just remembered it, but this video nicely shows why cxd4 is problematic for white. Also there are quite a few master games in the main line and black is doing fine even in the main line. Conclusion: Fritz Attack > Traxler.
2:20 -- очень редко встречается ход d6. У белых дальше нет никакого перевеса, очень редко так играют. Белые должны играть c3, и давить на пешку е, после чего у них гораздо лучше, они играют на победу.
The traxler was the first opening I really studied and it’s still one of my favourites. But these look like so much fun, I might have to rotate the traxler out for a while to try these out!
Until you start going up against people who know what they’re doing so your games will go (after b5) Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4 and white lacks slightly in development but has better control of the centre and is up a pawn (also only has 1 isolated pawn compared to black’s 2 isolated pawns).
Traxler is completely neutralized above 1500. Almost everybody knows what to do
@@pritammondal9708 No it’s not. I’m rated 1700 and I win most of my games with the traxler. If you know enough, if white plays Nxf7, you can’t lose.
@@Aperson-kq7pt yeah it’s a draw, but white always has a big adv with bxf7
@@youtubeboxingcentral2022 It’s not really a big advantage (stockfish says around +1.5) but it is really tricky for white to maintain that advantage.
Thanks especially for being concise, yet reviewing what we're trying to do. This response to the Fried is way more dynamic than the Na5 that I normally play. Thanks.
6:00 this is exactly how I lost yesterday.
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@@ShuptahNeelakandan-cg4tn what
3:25 wouldn’t C3 instead of B3 be the safest move their bishop this makes no sense
I play the fried liver with white and I know my theory.
I haven’t looked at this in a while but I’m pretty sure at 6:52 the move for white is bishop back to f1.
This is also a move in another b5 line.
Yeah, what I don't get is why he is saying the "only possible move" is Bishop to B3 and then you can take it with your Knight, but why can;t the Bishop move to C4 and then as you say, it can escape back to F1 next go if required? I have tried this about a dozen times against the computer and it NEVER moves the Bishop back to B3. That's a dumb move IMO, or am I missing something?
3:25 what’s keeping white from moving bishop to C4 instead? Would the game plan be similar after that, or would black want to attack that with pawn b5 or something
I'm not good at chess but I dont see why I couldn't move the Bishop to c4. He says the only safe option is b3 but how could it be safe of you got taken by a knight and you stacking pawns to retake. Thats just double bad for you. But no pice is attacking c4. Maybe its just my 1000elo brain i can't comprehend something here but someone shuld tell my why white plays b3.
Qc6 crushes White. Either the Bishop is lost or Qxg2 next. If Bxf1, Nc2+.
i literally had a game just like this after seeing this lesson and i won in 10 moves thanks
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As a scicillian defense player, the fried liver makes no sense because there is no black pawn on e5 so the fried liver and any scholars mate attack gets met with Ne5 hitting the bishop while simulataneously protecting c2.
I'm 1600+. Personally, I believe that the two knights is the best 1...e4 defensive option. I respond to the fried liver w/ 5...e5. It opens black up for tactical play and white has to immediately defend his bishop.
Me who see this on 500 rating 😭
I'm 300 elo rn, started chess literally yesterday and so far have seen two opponents try the fried liver opening on me. First one I got tricked, second one was able to get out of it myself.
I guess this opening has become really common if it's in literal beginner elo
@Edge_OfAIok martin
@@walkingtree2486damn I started chess like a few days ago and I'm 1000
@@wasordx3245ok jason
@@wasordx3245i have 100 elo wdym
Great lesson. Watched it twice and played it out over the board to try and remember the tactics. Thanks Nelson.
4:30 well, as a amateur, i analysed the position and we only have moves for the queen, the knight is pinned
Don't move (random move): Rxe2+, now Kxe2 it's the best option for white, the battery it's a problem, Qe6+, Kf1 and white is saved
Qe3: Strong best move candidate, if Rxe3+, dxe3 and the white is saved again
Qe4: a inaccuracy, now we have a double attack on queen and no protection, Rxe4+ and the white king lost castling rights too
Qe5: a inaccuracy, probably will be Rxe5+ Kxe5 Qxe5+ and the white king lost his castling rights again
Qe6 or Qe7: ABSOLUTE BLUNDER, i will explain the both separately
Qe6+: you put your queen in a triple attack, Qxe6+ will make a battery and the checkmate will come soon
Qe7+: same, but now it's a quadruple attack
Qxe8+: another strong best move candidate, the king or the knights will take e8 and you can castle, and the white king is saved most one time
My recommendation, Random move, Qe3 and Qxe8+
After 6. ... b5, I thought the normal line is 7. Bf1. And now white gets more of a chance to develop his pieces. That's why I normally play 5. ... Na5.
Agree, I play Bf1 as white and then enjoy a good position.
1:54, what if white plays d3 to kick the knight? White may feel uncomfortable as the pawn blocks its own knight, but the black's knight's place is also very awkward. If it retreats to f5, and white castles, it seems the white has an advantage.
I've seen this so many times and always struggled with it. I always got out of the forking threat but this is a much more elegant solution to the problem! 👍️
347,996th person : I have seen this
This is my favorite trap. I've done it dozens of times and it never fails to make me laugh.
Even if they don't give you the checkmate the number of queens I've taken is great.
Edit: Also, you forgot to mention the line where they defend the bishop instead of taking your rook and you take their queen.
They defend their bishop with pawn to d3? How do you take the queen?
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Again you take the pawn Qg2 as with the previous line. Of course they have to defend Rook Rf1. You then attack their queen with your bishop Bg4. Most opponents move their queen up one space Qd2, to which you can fork the queen and king Nf3.
If they do the slightly smarter pawn move f3, you just take with the bishop Bf3. Now they have 3 options. 1) Sac the rook Rf3, at which point you take with the knight Nf3 and they have to sac the queen to stop the mate. 2) Sac the queen Qf3 immediately and you take with the knight Nf3. 3) Try to save the queen by moving it forward one space Qd2. At which point check their king with your knight Nc2, and they have to sac the queen to take the knight.
@@Dubanx Oh that's great! Thank you for explaining that
I usually encounter d3 followed by Kd2, the idea of which is to cleverly defend the rook with the queen. But it's actually a forced checkmate.
Yes, while most people propably find it annoying. I find it so satisfying doing it myself and succeding in it, because being rock down will then show in the endgame giving advantage to yourself. My new chess account been created in last year November 15, but I have played this frank liver attack oppening still over 200 times with 53% win rate, 44% lose rate and rest are draws. I used to play this opening before chess app in roblox chess rekting noobs and thats why I have been playing this opening a lot for last two years. This is much better trap, than any of the queen move traps, because most know how to stop them atleast.
At 3:23, why wouldn't white move the bishop to c4? Is it too important to keep it protected in case of a trade?
Qc6 wins you the bishop
@@ohaiadityou could still protect the bishop with b3 or knight a2. Of course, you'd still lose the pawn on g2
@@gilly_the_fish Not just the pawn, Qxg2 forks h1 Rook and g5 Knight. Catastrophic for White.
At 3:26 couldn’t the bishop just go to c4
I eas thinking the same , some one please tell me what happens if bishop goes to c4
May be Bishop e6
Then Black Queen forks unprotected bishop and g2 pawn and then same white attack works.
@@pebblepod30 ???
@@pebblepod30If black plays d5 I just take with bishop and that's just losing a queen wich is stupid.
But someone for the love of god tell me why bishop c4 is bad im going insane here.
This is like the famous Blackburn gambit which follows this line: e4-e5, Nf3-Nc6, Bc4-Nd4!!
The point is the same, lure the knight in this "fork", just from a different angle, instead of Ng5 they go Nxe5. Then we play ...Qg5 and we have Nxf7-Qxg2, Rf1-Qxe4+, Be2-Nf3#
It's the exact same position both with the knight and the bishop capture. It only differs when white plays c3 instead of d6.
I personally prefer playing the Blackburn gambit because this makes them immediately think you've blundered a pawn, whereas if you play the two knights defence they aren't necessarily forced into playing the fried liver and the game may transpose to a boring Italian variation.
Heres a tip for 400-800ish. after ng5 play bc5 and after they play nxf7 play bxf2 after kxf2 play nxc4+ and no matter what they do play qf6(+) most of the time people will stumble intl mate in one on either g8 or c8.
Its not nxc2 its nxe4 and also usually play Qh4 not Qf6 u only play Qf6 if Kf1
You are correct on the first point, I am just blind, but unless they play ke2 qf6 is as far as I can tell, simply better. If kg1 or ke1, they get checkmated, if kf1, they have to respond to check either moving to e1, g1, or e2. E1 and g1 lose to qf2#, or after e2, nd4+, kd3 play nf2, forking the king and queen, if ke1, qf2#, and if ke3, qf2+, if kd3, qg3+, kxe4, qf4+, if they go to d5, there is probably a checkmate somewhere, and if kg3, after qg3+ there is at least a draw and probably some kind of mate. Also in some of those paths they could have blocked with queen, but every single one hangs. If after kxe4 they play kf3, qf6+, if kg4, h5+, and after kh3, nf2 forks the king and queen, and there's probably a mate there. If ke2, qf2+, kd3, qg2+, if ke2, forced draw, if kxe4, qf4+, if kd5, qd4#, if kd3, qd4+, ke2, qxc4+, and you win the bishop and the knight, and you are up a pawn. If ke3, qf4, and either move I've covered already. Tell me if I missed anything.
4:11 good knight
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Just played this for the first time as an 1100 player. Is certainly a lot of fun, I'm going to have to keep doing this, thanks!
These videos always remind me of self defence martial arts classes, relying on the opponent doing something lol
After watching this video, in the very next game I got into the exact same position. I managed to play it through as you recommended and I could take an easy win 😊 thank you, great guidance!
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Bishop takes:
3:01-3:43-3:49-4:06-4:27
Knight takes:
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d6:
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I’m always on the hunt, for great chess videos, with full explanations. But I’ve never come across, a chess channel, that gives such an easy, and great explanation, from both sides, easy to understand, no stupid, long winded explanations. You sir, keep it so simple, and frankly, the best chess channel, I’ve ever come across.
Keep up the great work.
Your use of commas distresses me.
@@abagofwater1076 same
@abagofwater1076 I believe that most people, when writing, use commas to simulate their speech patterns. Maybe he just talks with many pauses in between phrases; but if that's true, it sounds like someone who might have a disability lol
please, stop using, so many commas, unnecessarily, and learn. when you are supposed to, use commas. and when, they are not necessary, .
@@REY.3727 😄
I prefer e4 e5 nf3 nc6 bc4 f5! This is where stockfish decides to be a 🤓 but most people are stuck and blunder quickly.
This is amazing. How has this counter attack not been talked about before?
Like most traps, it's probably not very good at higher levels. Better players know this stuff and how to keep the advantage as white
Because its not good
If white just plays reasonable moves they can easily get a winning position
Playing stuff like the traxler is much much better against the fried liver
Question on 3:25. -> why would bishop B3 be the only safe position, why not go back to C4?
Qc6 clobbers you
ngl as a 600 I saw this trap yesterday but it was a Giuoco Piano Four Knights instead, and I panicked and castled, then thought it was a bad move (though I checked game review and it said best move)
tbh it was a horrible game for both sides, I only won because opponent was too focused on attacking me (they had M2) and hung M1 which resulted in my win
It is the best move because you basically trade 2 minor pieces for a rook which in that position is completely fine for black
At least you recognize the patterns at 600. I’m 1050 rn and I don’t even know what the hell you were talking about lol
I literally just wing it or play the hippo
Four knights giuoco piano sucks tbh, i think after 3.Bc5 its like the 4th best move according to stockfish but imo its 6th best move because i love the evans gambit and the max lange attack
One way to solve this problem is to at 9:35 to move the King rook pawn to KR3 instead of the King knight move...
I usually just play the bishop before the knight so I can castle if they move their knight up for the fork. But this is much better! Looking forward to trying it out!
I have seen this move many times and I'm just at 400-450! This is a great way to handle it thank you!
ive seen so many beginner videos about the fried liver but somehow i can just never wrap my head around good responses to it, hopefully this video will cement some counterplay into my head lol
I’d say you actually don’t want to go for fried liver as a beginner if you want to play e4. There’s so many lines it could deviate. At move 3 when you finally get the Italian black can play Bc5, Be7, d6, f5 and Nf6. All of them is a good move and only one ‘might’ leads to fried liver. I’d recommend something like danish gambit since there’s not as much move to remember. Afterward you can start learning more complicated opening one at a time and saves complicated stuff like Ruy Lopez for last.
@@ศกรโสมาภา i never go for fried liver as white but the move order is probably the most common in all of chess so youre bound to face it at the start of your chess journey
Alternatively, try Traxler. So fun
Ran this line through stockfish. Unfortunately if white plays the best responses after all the book moves they are ahead with a +.86 advantage in their favor
Why b3 is the only safe square for the bishop at minute 3:27? Why not c4?
Convenient for video probably lol
I'm 1300 and I see this in a daily basis. I was pushing pawn to h6 before knight comes out. Thanks for teaching right way to deal this.
3:24 please explain why only b3?
What if the bishop goes back to c4 after eating that pawn? Then i think white is safe
Yeah exactly!
Queen goes to c6 and threatens both bishop and g2 pawn to continue the attack. If bishop goes back to original position, then queen to c2 to exchange Queens and land a fork with the Knight...
@@bukunmikuti Yes, except that after Bf1, Nxc2+ is stronger.
I played competitively between 1995-1998...
I got to 1600
And this was super uncommon.
What I recall is trade pawns, trade pieces, knight attacks queen
Great video, Nelson! I see this attack consistently; I usually respond by advancing my H1 or A1 pawn in advance of it. But sometimes, I overlook the threat and get decimated.
I would recommend against the anti-fried liver defense, you just end up losing the center. I prefer knowing na5
I already had some counters to this traps but they really destroyed my position, so it gives some hope in the game thanks for this.
Watched this video last week, used the strategy last night to anihilate white's attack. Felt great. Thank you for this content! =D
I never knew how to properly respond to this attack but now it's a different story.
Such a great channel for chess players...thank you.
3:24 "...and going back to b3 is really the only safe square for [their bishop]"
Hardly safe since you then took it with your knight. Wouldn't e4 be safe, or am I missing something?
I think now my road to 1400 looks less difficult after seeing this video. Stuck at 1329 since 5 months
Im around your same level and trust me traxler will be better especially against 1400's
I was stuck at 1350-1400 for like 3 to 4 months. But I made a few changes to my game and within 2 months got to 1700. If your interested to know how do reply cuz im not gonna waste my time writing all that to someone who wouldnt read it anyway
I use the Fried liver attack a lot, I can say most people don’t know how to defend it. They might unintentionally defend it, I use it because if you know your moves you can see wether he’s blocking it so I just stick with the Sicilian and still have better development. These counter moves aren’t bad but they only work against someone who doesn’t know his moves (only main line) once you let the bishop get into position, irrespective of wether the fried liver is executed or not you are already at a disadvantage.
This is why you shouldn't play the Fried Liver unless you're a GM.
GMs dont really play this. Mostly go for gioco piano etc/3 knights variation. This however is very common for 1k-1.8k elo
I won 3 OTB tournament games with this variation so far, thanks!
I'm old and not even a club player, but I've been confused over when the Two Knights Defense went from a common "romantic era" opening to being called the Fried Liver.
The fried liver is the bishop + knight attack at the king pawn
@@modemuffel9911No it is the variation with Ke6 which is basically the main idea (otherwise the d5 would be easy counter)
The Two Knights Defense (3... Nf6) is still called the Two Knights defense.
4. Ng5 is called the Knight Attack, but a lot of people mistakenly call this the Fried Liver Attack because that's what White is aiming for.
6. Nxf7 (only after 4... d5 5. exd5 Nxd5) is the Fried Liver Attack or Fegatello Attack.
Playing 5... Nd4 instead of 5... Nxd5 completely avoids the Fried Liver Attack and this is called the Fritz Variation.
@@EternalSilverDragon Yes, and also the main line 5...Na5 of the Two Knights Defence avoids the Fried Liver Attack 6 Nxf7. In fact some analysis considers 6 d4 even stronger, but less spectacular.
1:11 Instead of this just copy and move bishop next to white bishop when they take you attack the pawn with your bish knight and queen which leads to an eventually checkmate
This is on an I did a thing playlist
Ah yes the Fritz defense and at 6:51 we respond with Bf1! and we get a slight better position
Love it. Watched your vid about 5 days ago and have had two games since to put it to use. First one (daily game) is still going but defense worked and the game goes on. Second game (just finished) worked exactly as you showed with the black queen checking and white having to decide between lost queen or smothered mate.
New subscriber. New fan.
2:45 why white will use the bishpo instead of knight,the knight can kill the queen after fork
did you watch the video
Who else got here from the I did a thing, training wild animals playlist? 😂
HAHAHAHA the same
As someone who randomly moves pieces and doesn't really form a strategy until late game...this fascinates me how there can be a strategy for opening moves and counters.
Umm I just give up after they do this honestly
3:25 The only save square? I see another save square for the bishop, c4 but seeing the video, the next move it can be b5
2200 here always playing fried liver with white. Of course after Nd4 the right next move for is c3 and when black plays b5 the bishop retreats to Bf1. If black then takes on d5, white can play Nxf7 and afterwards cxd4. Very complicated position but white avoids all the trappings of the dangerous move Nd4.
It's actually 0.005% of planet's population
600s play this all the time.. definitely studying these lines
rather than playing 4 knights get ur bishop out first so when the start fried liver u simply castle then if they continue they will get a rook and a pawn for a knight n bishop n u will have a better position
5:52 In this position its like to be Blackburne Shilling Gambit. Because in the blackburne gambit and this position if he takes pawn with knight you do the same tactic.
5:48 I finally got somebody to fall for this trap. mate in 10 moves felt amazing!
My guy who played Qa4+ at 06:55 instead of capturing the pawn. I was like "Oopss, this was not in the script. Now what 👁👄👁"
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This is basically a different version of the Blackburn shrine gambit
Btw, I know that I did a spelling error, I just don’t know how to spell it
As a beginner in chess I learned too much in this video. Thanks for this Nelson.
I don't understand the bishops movement @ 03:25 why b3 and not c4? @ 06:54 why not b5 and check instead of getting the knight?
The Fritz? Definitely something your opponents wouldn't study, I think they're used to seeing the traxler
Between this and the Traxler that pretty much seals the deal as far as not playing 4. Ng5 against the Two Knights. Better to play 4. d3 and transpose into the Giuoco Pianissimo.
Experienced player: « there is no trap ». Three players in their 25-35 tried setting early traps in the Lille intl Blitz (5+3s) were quite disappointed when they were checkmated.
Traxler counterattack is another fun option for black against the knight attack.
3. Bc4 is the better option than 3. Nf6 according to stockfish. End of discussion
I do Traxler every time and get excited to see the Fried Liver coming because of it. But this looks even better.
3:35 Don't say "bishop's controlling here", people will think you're meant to take if they play Nh3. That's a terrible trade for black. just leave it there, it's pretty much out of the game.
As a chessable nerd who studies thousands of variations, when black plays Nd4, I'll play c3. After b5, Bf1 is a novelty. And white is already much better. It is still playable though.
I'm 1800 and see this a lot where the bishop give a check, but rarely see the knight take the pawn
I'm kinda new but at 6:50, B5 looks like it's not a good move because white can just take it with the bishop while putting black in check.