The Difference Between 1400 and 2200 ELO
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
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The difference between a a strong player vs normal players, stronger players tend to look much better moves for their opponent
Ya 👍right
SO TRUE
they what
@@jellymathBad grammar but essentially strong players find better moves that the opponent could use than what the opponent actually uses. When the opponent is normal, that is.
Bruh that's why they are strong ,
I like this format. I wonder if showing his thought process first would be more instructive. If we see yours first, we kinda have the answers - and when we see his, we're like "that was dumb, man!". BUT, If we see his first, we're going to be like "yea, sure, that makes sense to me" (assuming we're all closer to his rating). But, when we see YOUR commentary, we're like aaaahhhhh.... that's why. And that flow feels more instructive. my 2 cents. Cheers!
Just let him start as white and hear his thoughts first. Move for move.
Agreed. I think this format works better when the lower rated player gives their rationale first so then we have a chance to agree or disagree and guess a better move before the stronger player reveals an answer.
Great suggestion
@@joesweeney1712 Da wisdom of da crowds, ya feel me dawg?
This is a dreadful idea! This way we hear the 1400 and we're like 'ok yeah that makes sense' then we hear the 2200 and we're like 'oh, ok no i'm dumb'. My ego gets enough of a hit playing chess without getting hit watching chess :D
1400: "hey i got a descent attack"
2200: "I m not worried by this"
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I wanna see an entire series of this. Playing people rated at 50 point increments starting from 1000
would watch this
Second this, i wish there was a clear skill set for each 100pt rating range
@krispe2512 that’s a really interesting idea! I might have to try that out and reach out to stronger players. Do you want to play a match against me?
yes please
+1
I love this format please make more of these! 2200 vs 1700 next? I volunteer myself for it lol
I'm 1100 uscf and I tend to miss pawn moves like when you pushed f4 winning the knight. Interesting to see the themes that apply across different ratings.
Great video as usual, love the dual commentary!
1600 and I did the same. Puzzles help with this or adding this to your premove checklist.
@joeyspalding4276 That pawn move was DEADLY. Trust me, I felt it during the match
Because you don't look at ALL the forcing moves and expand your chess realm of possibilities. Every piece is capable of making a forcing move, kings and underpromotions included.
15:02 his reaction when got forked king and rook 😂😂😂😂
@kritisundur My reactions while playing chess can be quite something 😂
Magnus wudve finished 10 games by the time they finish calculating
so what?@@bloodpriest1302
😂😂
I cant stop repeating it😂😂😂
Great content. I would love to see more like this. It's really cool to see you pointing things out and him not realizing it. It really shows the difference in player level.
I really enjoyed seeing the thought process of both players during a game. Hope to see more. Thanks guys.
This is a cool ass concept. I’ve actually never personally watched anything like this. Highly enjoyable as well as instructive. Thanks to you both. I’m about to sub to Jonathan.
Great idea absolutely love the concept. I’m sure you’ll be able to sort the audio disparity in future videos.
The main difference is a normal player plays almost all moves relying on intuition not precise calculation.
@emranahmed5711 Even though I’ve played many games, you are correct, I still rely on intuition. I need to practice calculating variations three moves and beyond.
@@chessamigoagree man, i even had to change my time controls to 15+10 cuz i actually had problem with my time if playing 10+0 cuz i was thinking longer for some moves that'll end up me being against time skirmish
@@chessamigoYour resourcefulness was impressive however you needed the backing of tactical depth if you were to create any serious problems for your opponent (one example is reserving Rd7 at 23:27 and playing Qb5 with Qf1 perpetual threat). Despite being down a piece you put up good resistance, well done.
They’re also basing it off less advanced knowledge of the game
@@joeyblogsy Agree. I don't do any opening prep, but plan on doing so this year. I just haven't seen as many things.
This video is excellent! Please share more content like this, Nelson!
This is great content! This was super helpful and entertaining. Props to your Opponent for playing very resilient. I would love to see more of this.
Love this video. You normally only get to watch videos for a particular level, but to actually see the thought process side by side of separate ratings offer a good insight into the different mindsets. The opponent was never thinking too far in the future, but Nelson carefully thought out every possible move, including what would potentially happen as a result.
Do lots more of these. What a terrific learning tool. Kudos
That was such a good content, please make a series like this
very interesting type of content/concept.
Was so glad when you went for the rook fork, i was seing that a couple moves in advance and thought it looked neat. A bit surprised he didnt see that at 1400 but then again it's always so much easier to spectate as well as seing the moves from an attacking perspective.
Man these ones are pretty good! Im so happy to have found your channel, it really shows a lot of the technique behind chess. Thanks for your work! 🙏
This was a VERY INTERESTING video! I totally loved it. I hope you do more of this kind
Great format! I would love some more of this.
Seeing boths thought process was a great idea. Please do more of this 🧠
Loved the format! I was thinking of wanting to find something like this cuz it fascinated me to think of how different minds think about the same position and how to go about it.
Great format and very instructive to see the difference in attention to looking for all moves and checking there are no tactics, etc. It’s one thing to hear about it, but witnessing it in this context makes it more real for some reason.
Very interesting video concept, please do more of these! Its interesting to see the different thoughts and strategies between different levels. Just subscribed :)
Cool new concept Nelson!
Agreed. Very useful to hear both sides.
Agreed. I’d love to see more of this.
Any of y’all want to play some chess matches?
i am a 1700 to
Such a good format. Very instructive. Well done!
Excellent idea!!! Bravoooo! I would love to see many more of these!
This is awesome! I would love to see more of these!
That was great. Please do some more of these types of videos!
amazing format, really enjoyed that one!
I love these style of videos, thank you for making me a better thinker in Chess!
This is so original. I love this. I wish more people would do this video idea
great concept for a video, really enjoyed that
Awesome video, please do more of these!
Love this format!! My son and I actually wanted to try this live over the board but never really did it - too many mind games would happen.
ChessAmigo is awesome! His reactions are genuinely funny and he actually is pretty good. If he sticks with it, he's going to be a good player. Loved this video
Loving this different ratings format 👍🏻. Insightful.
Long time watcher of this channel content but now subscriber because of this video. I think Nelson is on to something original & instructive here. Hope we get to see a lot more content like this with different ratings. I think seeing some post game commentary on his opponents thought process would be instructive as well.
What a fun video. Would love to see more like this.
I love how this has been done. informative and classy
This is a really cool video format you should do more of these
A great series this is.... keep it up Nelson!
This needs to be a regular thing! I'd even like the live stream details and become a subscriber.
This was a really good video...hoping for more like this
Another great video concept!
More videos like this,that was so interesting,original and helpful ❤❤
Great video and this answers a question that most 1400-1600 players ask themselves frequently 👍👍👍
cool format and props to both!
This was a great video!! hope you can do videos on a similar line as this
I really like this video. This was really helpful
Very enjoyable to observe. Please do this again
What a brilliant concept!!
this is SUCH GOOD content... please more of this!!
Nice, would like to see more of these 👍
Loved it. What a great idea!
Hey man. I was wondering if you would consider making a video about how to effectively learn to convert winning positions with equal material. Can't find any good videos about that.
I'm an adult improver, playing since 4 years and am rated around 1800 FIDE. In classical OTB games I would often have great positions in the middle game against higher rated players. Often something like +3 or +4 according to the engine, while having equal material. but then I usually struggle to convert that advantage. I started working on my calculation/visualization by looking at similiar positions with winning combinations from GM games and it did help a little bit, but I was wondering what else I could do to get better at this specific thing.
Would be cool, if you would consider doing a video on that topic one day.
Anyway, thanks for all the content. Really like your channel, lots of dense information and really helpful content. Keep it up and all the best!
Great content! Thx for the vid! :)
This is really good content for me as I just started playing last month and I'm trying to learn how to think about chess.
Stellar content. Hopefully a new series. 🙏
Very interesting concept of a video! I might have to try this at the club I'm running at my school
This is an excellent format. Very informative. With this game in the bag as a baseline, it offers a good opportunity to explore differences in time control. Try a 15+10 game and see if it noticeably improves his game play. Also, Nelson could agree to a tighter control and manually track it (maybe agreeing to not ever go below 10m on clock).
This is a really cool series idea
This another informative content by yours sir😊
This is super helpful!
Great video! Jonathan played really good!
Other than being a great Chess teacher, Nelson is also a very creative and thoughtful content creator.
GREAT CONTENT BRO!
Another great video ❤
this is a super interesting video concept
love watching you play
This is like watching a well directed movie about a situation experienced through the POVs of opposing characters
Really liking this format.
This Good Experience ❤ Pls, regular upload such kind of videos 🙏 It's good Learning content for Lower rated players.. 🙏 Thanks
Do more of this please.
Thianis such a nice idea of videos!!!
More like this please!
love this format...!
Great content idea👌
I think you have potential to do something special here. An entire series of this would take off.
It's like you made this video just for me. Thanks!
I LOVE THE WAY U EXPLAIN UR CONTENT. THAS GREAT. LOVE IT. 😍
Just got I'm watching your channel for more than an year :)
Dude this was awesome
Extremely useful to see somebody make the mistakes I could make. Please more of this!
This whole game went bad because he failed to play h5. I never let my opponent push h4-h5 if I can stop it with h7-h5
Right, but h5 also creates a weakness that white can exploit with g4. So it is also essential for black to create counter play by striking in the centre. Doesnt make sense to play an aggressive opening like the Pirc and then play defensively.
I think the right thing to do would've to just let him take it, then you take it back with the f pawn, this way you don't damage your structure beyond help(like you can still castle that way) and you get one extra move to develop a piece or do something else which could help you gain some advantage.
nice concept
Love this! Which move was the 'brilliant' you made btw?
you should do this again next year!
Best stuff ive seen on all the chess channels in a long time, unsubscribed from all the chess channels even yours, but have resubscribed
Good stuff!
A slightly longer time control would also be interesting or even a friendly game with take backs, because here it was he just didn't calculate a tactic and the game was mostly over at that point. While in many ways far less important at the 1400 level given games are decided by dropping pieces and pawns the bigger difference is almost definitely when it comes to positional understanding and strategic play where you'll have extremely different things to say than he does.
We want more of this please...
Me watching this with 100 elo 🤧
His a7 pawn was never hanging as he can trap the bishop with b6 after bishop takes pawn very good video 👍 He actually ends up saying that in the vudeo later on
6:22 I might have played Nf2 in this position. You cant take the other knight because then you lose your queen. If you save your queen, you lose the exchange. Only other option is to take with the king and then you can't castle.
if you like this format of people talking their thoughts through their moves separate from their opponents, there was an older BBC show that you will really like that has many episodes uploaded to youtube called The Master Game.
Great video
that was a great vid
Let me be honest, i resemble Jonathan in certain things - the way he was so cautious in losing pawns is something even I'm not comfortable at
Definitely shows that even 1400s miss simple remove the defender tactic, even i might have blundered that..
But obviously he has improved since last year
And i think the result wouldnt have been in doubt, still an instructive game to him and all other learners
Was really looking forward to seeing Jonathan after a year and he did not disappoint!