Casting Distance Experiment - 10 lb Braid vs. 20 lb Braid On Spinning Tackle [Surprising Results]
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2018
- For those of us who use artificial lures, an extra 10, 20, or especially 30 feet in a cast is a HUGE deal.
Because every inch of added distance is an extra inch of the best strike zone territory given that the fish have less and less chance of being wary of danger in the area.
After getting more serious about inshore fishing with lures and competing in tournaments over the years, I found myself transitioning from mono, to heavier braid, and then to lighter and lighter braid because I realized that they all enabled me to catch more fish mostly driven by the increased casting performance (longer casts with less effort).
But I never knew exactly how much farther each transition allowed.
So I decided to run this experiment to see how far I could cast a 10 lb line compared to a 20 lb line with all else kept constant.
And I was shocked at the results because the difference in casting performance was much greater than I had originally assumed.
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Man this is a great video, keep up the great work you guys do.
I throw 2oz jigs on bridge shadow lines using 40lb braid, I thought I could cast far on that. Never realized just dropping down 1 size in braid u could gain an extra 20%+ casting difference! Needless to say great video. I love all these real test videos u do salt strong from lines to knots. No one else out there does these💪🙏🙏
Very useful information, thank you from a beginner when it comes to these things!
This is a great video. I'm new to fishing... or at least new to doing it regularly and learning the science of how to do it properly. I learn a little here and there, so videos like this are priceless. Thanks!!
Thanks Roger! Here's a link to see other experiments that we've done to help us all know which lines to use (as well as which ones to stay away from) in case interested: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/fishing-lines/
Very nice comparison demonstration. What you have to consider is, this is using the same size weight of lure. If you are using heavier lures on heavier line, you could get the same distance. If you don't need the heavier line, don't use it. I use heavier line mainly because I hate losing lures in weeds more than I hate casting a shorter distance.
Hey Luke: Perfectly presented. Thanks for performing and sharing fact-based comparisons and thereby enabling objective (not subjective) conclusions.
Thanks for the kind words Larry! More tests coming soon.
great test, can you do this same test with 2 baitcast reels with same size line? Which reel goes further, spinning reel or baitcast reel?
Awsome informative video! Thanks I learned a lot.
My God you got really good videos on your channel. The footage and quality is impressive! I got some crazy fishing videos myself and I should learn more from you guys. Thank you!
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment Frank. Fish On!
like your experiments series, one of the best on YT
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment. More experiments coming soon!
So true, a lot of reviews here on UA-cam is some guy saying "trust me" if it works for me it will work for you. These guys take the time to run the tests and rule out as many variables as possible to give accurate results. I don't know anyone else doing this. Either way, I appreciate it.
Great test Luke. Thanks so much!
hi, how about doing a same diameter braid vs mono / fluoro.. also 4 strands vs 8 strands vs 9 strands vs other strands out there available in the market test..
Great info!! Thank you for the information, it is definitely something to consider
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment. Glad to see that you enjoyed this casting contest.
Jokes on you guys I use 15
me too
Haha!
Haha, same here! Couldn't decide between 10lb or 20lb braid. So, I just went with 15lb braid for the main line and 30lb mono for the leader.
LOL
jsc4354 you should use a lighter leader than mainline
Hello, Guys love your tutorials and various information on fishing. I was always worried about using the lighter line as it might not cast a crankbait further. What size crank bait s and other artificial baits you suggest for 10lb braid, please
Excellent presentation..You did what I wanted to try ...Great and thanking you , Sy
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment Seymour!
I have two questions about casting distance.. 1. People say you can cast further with a longer rod and was wonder how much longer does the rod needs to be to really add worthy distance. 2. In freshwater there big thing about micro-guides and wonder if there such thing in the saltwater community and if they really give you more distance?
Good test. Thanks for making this video and thanks for sharing it.
Cool video. Thank you for posting. Always wondered % I was able to cast a little further when going down to my 10 lb spools
What mono leader size do you recommend for 20lb braid.ill be fishing light inshore on harbors and jetty
How long of a leader do you use? Sorry for all the questions, and thank you! Tight lines
Great test - I am glad I am on your email list to be reminded of these superb videos!
Thanks for your continued support. Fish On!
Good video. What rod and reel were you using?
It just depends on what bait an what rod you use with the braid in my opinion.
Like always great video
How well will the 10 hold up casting 1/2oz vs 20 all day will you have more line filures?
Isn't tying knots on 20 a bit more manageable?
is casting distance the only flaw to using higfer test? other than i guess visability? id take strength over a few feet extra cast
Yes, increased casting distance and decreased line visibility are the two core benefits of using lighter line. If fishing around heavy structure, then it's important to make sure that you have power to keep out of trouble. But I def recommend having at least one rod with light line that should be used when in need of distance... Had I had 15+ lb braid instead of 10 lb braid on my rod when we spotted a snook from our 3rd floor balcony, there is no way that I would have been able to get the casting distance needed to catch it and I would not have had this catch of a lifetime: www.saltstrong.com/balcony-snook-fishing/
Like Urban Fisherman was mentioning, I have 30lbs braid on all my 3000 and 4000 reels. I never would have imagined it would have made that much of a difference. Especially being I throw a lot of small plastic 😨
Thanks for all the hard work!
Glad to see that you enjoyed this casting experiment. I was shocked at the difference too... especially considering that the 20lb braid says that its diameter is equivalent to 6 lb mono.
I was just about to low 30 LB braid on my line. I'm thinking I'm going to drop that back now. Thanks for the information great video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
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Thanks for the awesome video! I just purchased some 10 lb braid and we'll try it out. I usually do 15 lb, but I think I will like the 10 lb.
Cool video and results! I switched a few of my surf combos to 10lb suffix 832 and I'm very happy with the results and as a side note 10lb suffix 832 tests at 29lbs.
Cool. I picked up a spool of suffix 832 recently so will be testing it against PowerPro soon... I'm very much looking forward to seeing how they compare.
What about the difference between braided and poly line..... which is better for distance using a top water frog from bank fishing
very informative! thanks mate
Thanks for making time to leave a nice comment Steven. Fish On!
Love these vids because they remind me that I still have a lot to learn. I do mostly flats fishing from a kayak and have been using 30lb braid every time. Talk about overkill. Definitely switching to 10lb when it’s time for a re-spool.
You're going to notice much greater casting performance when you make the switch. Also, you'll surely find that you can feel strikes much easier in windy conditions because there is much less wind drag on the thinner line.
doesnt matter when fishing from kayak, you are on top of the fish..
@@AlexeiPavlov Not always, actually less often the case. Especially without a fish finder
Great video test! I had just changed my 30 lb braid lines to 15 lb braid on Daiwa Coastal bait caster & went to 10 lb braid on a Piscifun carbon 1000 reel & Star light pole.
Thanks!
This is basically the same test as mono and braid, one thicker than the other, all I am saying Luke is of course thinner is going to cast further. My take on it . very useful site you have here, excellent work, YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR WEALTH
What rod and reel were you using?
Farther not further
Hey Luke , where did you get those pear shape knobs ( best for me !) for Shimano Stradic CI4 reels ? I have that shape on my Tica SpinFocus and now I want to put also on my new Stradic CI4 .Thanks for sharing lot of info with us ...
That's what they came with... for some reason they went away from those knobs when they updated their Ci4 design a couple years ago.
The more you jump up in size the more the gap grows also. I’ve used 50 and 30 throwing 2-4oz plugs in the cape cod canal and the difference can be close to 100ft.
Scientific approach 👍👍👍
That was a really good video!! Awesome job man!
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment. Fish On!
Salt Strong no problem! 👊🏻👊🏻
Great video and info sir. I plan on using 1 oz to 1 1/2 oz sp minnows on a 9ft. st. croix triumph. Would 10 pound braid be too small for the lures? I was thinking no more than 20 pound braid with this. Ill be using a shimano ultegra 4000 btw. Aloha from Hawaii.
the rule of thumb that surfcasters use is 10# for every 1 oz. Using this rule the 1oz should hold but the 1.5 oz has a little more risk of snapping off during a cast, should your bail close or something like that happens.
Great vide...thanks!!!
Ok so when you get snagged bye bye lure. What happens when you hook a 8 lb fluke and you have to pull it up without a net?
Great video Luke! Planning to fish in Colombia off a rocky coastline. Looking for snook and snapper, with lures ranging from ½oz to 2oz. Can I get away with 10lb or should I go 20lb?
Check out the full blog on our website and post your comment there. That way, Luke can respond directly back with his suggestion. You can find it here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/casting-distance-experiment-10-vs-20-braid
Good info. Thanks. I need to get some new line anyway because I ran out. 10 lb braid it is.
What was the brand of braid being used ?
Getting ideas on casting distances with different line weights.
Great!
Great channel! Like to use light spinning reels and always fish 12lb mono with 15- 20 floro leader. I would like to fish some 10lb braided line. Now, my question is do need to use a different spinning reel for braided line?
Thanks for checking the video out! We have a massive library of fishing tips on our website along with a search feature to let you quickly filter down to find help you're looking for, so just go to www.saltstrong.com/ and use the Search feature in the top menu.
Nice comparison You Guys are surely taking out curious out of most curiosities
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Salt Strong I’m still impressed how much your channel has grown and website you guys definitely have gone above and beyond Thx for your hard work
Thanks for the kind words.
do you have a comparison between 20lb and 30lb?
10lb mono compared to 20lb braid is night and day, that’s what made me switch. I personally like to use 20lb braid, I find it’s easier to pop out of snags without losing your lure.. But this is some good information! You should do a comparison with nanofil line vs braid. Nanofil line is made by berkly, maybe some other company’s not sure. It’s super thin line it’d be interesting to see a comparison!
Tight lines
Thank you man!
Excelente video muy bueno saber las distancias para 🎣 Gracias por el video
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Are results similar for bait casters?
Great video. Very informative!
Good to know! Thank you! Do you have a 4 strand vs 8 strand video out there yet?
Not yet, but I just picked up some 8 strand line recently so I'll be testing it out soon.
I've switched almost everything to Maxcuatro and been very happy. A few weeks ago in Brazil I was getting significantly more distance than my buddy with same size jigs and #test, it made a big difference.
Great video.
Which one is best please tell me?
I not understand language
Which one is longer cast
You should make a video of power pro super slick vs the regular pp braid
Yes, that is definitely on our list of tests to perform. Fish On!
Nanofil is the best line i have ever casted with. Nanofil has it's drawbacks in strenght etc vs regular braided lines, but casts like a champ. So if youre trying to get max distance, i suggest testing nanofil.
you cast like your fencing with darth vader lol. Great vid
That casting technique is the best for achieving distance and accuracy with minimal effort... here's a cool video showing it in action (sight fishing from a 3rd floor balcony): www.saltstrong.com/balcony-snook-fishing/
@@Saltstrong "... with minimal effort" that's the catch... I don't mind a little effort, and the classic over the shoulder cast with a step forward and follow into the throw does cast quite a bit further than that, I'm sure. I've tried your catch a few times since I first saw the video, and it's, to my liking, a useless throw. All I get out of it is a worry of the line snagging off over my head.
Salt Strong 😮
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
@@Sigma2323 Whats faith fot to do with the joke? Move on troll boy
Awesome video I have been saying that for years. Long casting ability.
Great test. what rod and reel are being used?
Here's a link to a review I did on the rod that I was using in this video: www.saltstrong.com/articles/temple-fork-outfitter-spinning-rod-review/
The reel was a Shimano Stradic Ci4 (3000 series).
What weight was at the end of the braid
The wind looks a little breezy by the look of the water. How will you compensate for that wind?
I used small weights which do not get much wind resistance, and I also had both rods ready to go so that there was no time gap between the casts.
It's not always how far you can cast but where you cast matters more.
That's what she said.
Look at his accuracy, all landing at the same spot.
same test with baitcasting reels, please?
Not a word on what the reels are rated for. What were those reels rated for?
One of the best fishing presenter on youtube...precise..concise..grwat stuff
To put it simple dumb terms 10lb is about 4.5kg fish before it breaks and 20lb is like a 9kg fish before it breaks....
Whats good braid size and pounds ..foor set up rod 14lbs and reel is 2000s??
How about mono vs braid in the same size class.
Do you have a leader tied on tho?
🤝very useful information for me thanks
I have a question?
Thanks, I'm always cautious about that because my son and I were fishing for mangrove snapper here in Ft. Myers and he hooked into a 20" red with 10# pp and a 20#flouro. 1/0 circle hook. A little under sized tackle for redfish , it straightened out the hook. Needless to say it caught us by surprise since it had been a couple years since we even caught a red. Thanks again for the help.
Glad I saw your vid, never considered trying out 10lb. Till now....I just don't know how it would handle a cobia though...
What were the wind perameters?
How about shimano 1000 vs 2500 with 10lb braid.
Awesome video. Gonna buy me some 10 lb braid asap.
Is that Davis Islands near Peter O Knight Airport?
It sure is:)
As a general rule I'll use 10 lb braid on a 2,000 size reel, 15 lb braid on a 3,000 size reel, 20 lb braid on a 4,000 size reel, 25 lb braid on a 5,000 size reel, and 30 lb braid on a 6,000 size reel and I typically don't go heavier than 30 lb braid.
Underfilled spool vs full spool how much difference
every one knows a full spool will be smoother which will give you a longer cast. This is like saying take to same cars fill one full with gas and the other one with a quarter tank of gas and see how far both cars go.
Thanks, very nice and useful test. It would be also interesting to see casting test 4 vs 8 string braid?
Great suggestion! We have it noted and than you for watching!
Awesome video. I won’t go lighter than 20lb in most cases. I’m usually fishing around mangroves docks and pilings so I worry about not being able to horse them away from structure. I may have to load a rod with 10lb and give it a shot
You need to check out the video where he test braid vs mono on abrasion resistance. Really shocking to see
10 LB braid is the diameter of what? 1 lb mono?
What size was the reel
Found a pond and i just gonna try 10pound braid just for this reason
Does a 40lb braid do well in a baitcasting reel?
Much better than it would with 10 lol
the casting difference still isn't enough to make me use 10lb braid hate trying to tie that stuff lowest I go is 15lb. Good vid
Same, also when you get down to lighter braids you always risk getting wind knots in your line.
Other than fishing near docks would you ever really need to go to 20lb for most inshore fishing?
I only go higher than 10lb when fishing in areas with high current and/or lots of structure. Otherwise, 10 lb can get the job done assuming you're using top quality knots.
Here's a video showing a ~50 lb tarpon that I landed on10 lb braid: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot-tarpon-catch/
I have a shaksper tiger🐅 7 spinning 2 piece combo and on my rod or says 10 - 20 lb fishing line but I put 25lb fishing line I also have a shaksper medium action baitcaster rod and it says 6lb - 10lb but I use 25lb and I haven't had a problem with it yet is it ok to but the fishing line that is say's on the rods or can I put 25 lb fishing line
The line reccomendation keeps you from putting too much stress on the rod. They reccomend 20 so it will break before the rod/reel. For instance If you use 25# and hook into a fish strong enough chances are the rod will fail before the line breaks
What reel is that?
Great video! I personally don't focus too much on casting distance because I mainly freshwater fish for large mouth bass and it's more about spot fishing here in Florida. I focus more on line strength for the vegetation I have to cut through in alot of the ponds and lakes I fish at.
Good tip!
@Saltstrong Thanks. Distance casting is important too 😊
If it where on a baitcaster. Would the difference be as big? It should be less i think
How about spinning reel size cast distance? ex. 1000 size vs 2000 vs 3000 vs 4000 test!
I would assume the bigger reel would cast further due to having less loops come off the spool but I have not tested it
Emm
What would you use for sea trout 10# or 20#
Seatrout don't pull all that hard and are often found on the flats, so 10 lb braid is plenty. Note: Be sure to use a stronger leader in case you hook into a trophy one... here's a link to an article about leaders for inshore fishing including the strongest knots to use: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/
What size reel were you using??
3000 sized reels were used in this test
to cast 1.5 oz you dont need fluorocarbono leader?