LINK to PART 1 DETAILED Review ua-cam.com/video/l_ZO7EMBq_k/v-deo.html Tested in a Semi ua-cam.com/video/fFMrzC_PJ6E/v-deo.html Link to purchase the wave: bit.ly/3x3T2PX
Please plug this in to a Solar Panel and tell me again how "DC is more efficient than AC" This units MAX external DC input power is 200W. It **WILL NOT RUN THE COMPRESSOR** on Solar. Only **'Fan Mode'**. I could run a 8000 BTU mini wall unit (still twice the cooling) Overnight on a 300 Ah LifePo battery and a good inverter. ~$2000.00
I bought a wave 2 after watching your video review. I was super excited to receive it. It runs pretty good but has a vibration when compressor ramps up. My main issue is the screen on the wave 2 is glitching every 2-5 seconds. I posted a short clip just so you or anyone knowledgeable knows of a fix. I prefer not to get customer service involved because I don’t want to pay shipping both ways and I hear they take forever.
I'd like to see an AC run test in a room as close to designed spec as possible and run it at 72 degrees for 8 hours overnight and what is the kill-o-watt consumption. Max power is good but the power of this unit is the inverter compressor throttling down once you get to temp. Is the potential energy savings worth the 3X cost vs an 8k LG inverter window AC?
Here in Houston we definitely would set it to 60°. 50° if we could. But I like the test, I have the max. Instead of getting the extra battery I’m getting an extra max or the pro.
Costco has the delta pro for $2,849 (gotta dig for it) and a Delta Pro with remote and EV adapter for $2,999 for a few more days…. Also $999 for the smart generator.
@Tech Made Easy just want to clarify 2 things here. 1) The two hoses on the back should always be vented toward the outside. One is an air intake to cool the compressor (not air intake to pump into the room) and the other is an out / vent for that compressor hot air to be rejected. By allowing one vent to pull air from the inside (cold) area you are wasting energy -> air cooled by the unit is then recycled to cool the unit's compressor and rejected to outside. 2) The air intake for the air to be cooled is on the front of the unit. So ideally you want this inside of your tent/vehicle so it recycles the cold air and makes it colder rather than taking in hot outside air and trying to cool it down. If this was a swamp cooler than yes you would want the unit outside of the cooling area, but since this is an AC unit you want to pull air to be cooled from inside of your area. In both part 1 & 2 it didn't seem like that was clear.
Thank you for these test, I am highly considering buying this. I live in Japan and teach at many schools that don’t use the AC. I burn up and need something to cool me off. Fans just don’t cut it! This also would be good for my bedroom, no central air here so just my living room has air. I could use this in my bedroom and sleep ☺️ Problem is, this things almost $2,000 here with no battery and with the battery is $2,700 😳
@@TechMadeEzy Sadly, yes very expensive due to the currency rates right now. I’m wondering if I can buy it without the battery and then get the battery later. This would be very good for use in schools. It blows pretty cold and powerful? Think it could keep me cool if I’m standing near it?
@@TechMadeEzy I don’t, but I can use the power outlet at schools for now. But a battery would be good in the future, for camping and going to the beach.
Appreciate the tests, nice to see a difference in wattage draw under full load between AC and DC. The room tests are interesting, though. The first room test only utilized the hot exhaust tube and not ambient exterior air return tube. This method is certainly worse-case type of cooling as warm air outside the room will constantly be making its way back into the room causing the AC to work its hardest. A proper room cooling test using both tubes would be nice to see to see potential run-time differences when the air tubes are plumed properly. The tent test was done with both tubes which is great and was given a proper fighting chance.
As this is an inverter compressor I'd be interested to see the wattage it draws when only maintaining set point to within 1c of the room temperature as all your tests are with it running pretty much flat out.
Nice review but there is one problem which you have to find out The test with AC the wave pulled out 500-550 watts which is normal and also Ecoflow represents same watts but on DC supposed to pulled out between 23-30% less watts which supposed to be around 350 you’re wave pulled a lot more 450 and up like one small 5000 window ac unit I think you have to reach out ecoflow and check with them about firmware update on the both batteries and also wave !! The ecoflow showed on their web site the delta max is capable for 6-6.5 hours of continuous run time on ac mode and for delta pro 12 hours I watched a lot of videos including in china the wave pulled a lot less watts of DC then you’re unit check with ecoflow support for firmware updates Nice videos I like you’re channel 👏
No not the way they designed it. Unless they came out with some type of option. We did some detailed testing on that but you might want to contact Eco flow support Support@ecoflow.com thanks for watching the video
This Wave is actually a better portable air conditioner when compared to the rather flimsy and under powered Mark 2 which only has around 2300BTUs when compared to the Wave which has 4000BTUs.
Are there similar portable air conditioners, a bit larger (7-8K BTU) that run on DC from the Ecoflow Delta Pro? If I am understanding this correctly, running on AC would drain the solar generator/battery much faster and would not be solution for an extended blackout. Maybe something to test and compare!
Good video but it would be nice if we can see how it works with the add on battery on eco mode and not at full blast. I don’t think if your going to use this unit out of your house with limited energy that you are going to set it up to the max setting. And I think the AC test was showing high draws because the back of the Wave was close to the wall and wasn’t venting the hot air well. I believe if the unit is venting and sucking air like it supposed too it probably do better drawing power. Anyway, thank you for making this videos.
Thanks and yeah, no way I could do every possible test, video would be 3 hours long. Steve tried getting some feedback and we came up with a few tests together. Sorry Jose
Nathan the nice part is there are multiple modes and it can use less wattage if you're using it on fan or if you're using it on eco mode I haven't tried those modes yet
The home emergency test, always use both hoses otherwise negative pressure will cause warmer air to be pulled in from outside the room and the cool air sucked out to cool the condenser
@@TechMadeEzy Oh sorry, I must have missed that at the end. Wow, 800 cycles isn’t bad at all. Keep up the good content! Thanks for doing all this work for us!
@@TechMadeEzy in part one of your video the draw was 300w give or take via DC but this it is 450-500 under DC and under AC is 550-600. I’m curious about the difference between the 300w DC in video 1 vs video 2
From what I noticed, the 1st video test was short just to show how to connect it and to see that it actually worked, as you keep it on and connected longer you get a more accurate test with the wattage being used.
@@TechMadeEzy wow, the room was approximately 90 sq ft? Thanks you the information. I’m building a van and this would be a major purchase, trying to figure out if it’s the right one.
I do not even own one of these I wish I did When you run off your battery is gonna run a little bit different when you plug it in to wall see the difference I just seen a couple of videos but nobody let it get a temperature see if it turns off
I appreciate the video but the test results turned me off to this unit. Another UA-camr claims better results but I don't think he actually ran the unit from full charge to dead. He just showed the screen estimate hours?? I need to re-watch the other video and others too. I'm definitely not sold on the Wave. A widow unit and small generator take up the same space for half to one third the price.
Lol not sure why you are so surprised the air coming out is colder, that's what it is supposed to do ;) You also should have stated what the outside air temp is, not what the unit started with. It's probably the same but there could have been some residual heat from the sun or something else. AC units should drop the temperature of the air it is circulating by roughly 20 degrees measuring from the inlet to the outlet.
Doesn't the air conditioner comes with a battery too? Why don't you distinguish between its own battery rine and the additional battery time. I think your tests are a little confusing.
Once the room is cooled down to the set temperature, the AC will start using way less power as it won't have to run the compressor full time. Other channels have tested it with the optional battery and have gotten 6-8hrs of run time. The fact that this has a compressor that can run off DC for greater efficiency is the most exciting part about this AC for me. If I can save 100-200watts during run time, that's a lot of saved battery reserve for when I am on the road. Another benefit is the size to BTU factor. This is the smallest portable A/C unit rated at 4000 BTU. Traditional portable A/C units that are similar in BTU rating are about 50-75% bigger. $1200 is a lot, but this is for a niche market with specific needs. This isn't going to be a high volume seller so you don't have the benefit of economy of scales to reduce the price.
These are not very useful tests from a practical point of view. First; there are much simpler ways to determine that DC uses less power that AC. You can use a small fan with a wall wort and without and immediately see the difference. Secondly: The Hot air should be vented while the intake brings in the cooler air from the room. In the tent test, I don't understand why both hoses were outside the tent. Third: from a practical real-world point of view, the AC should be on a timer because this makes the WAVE cycle in and out. Reading the temperature during these test conditions is basically meaningless from, a practical point of view.
Your tests aren't very accurate first of all you aren't venting your exhaust and not bringing in outside air. So the compressor is running full time. I would do that test in that bedroom and vent the hoses and set the temp at 75. Now you will get accurate readings
The adapter needed to plug this into a Delta Pro has been sold out for a couple months. I'm going to get this AC in and not be able to use my Delta Pro to power it because they can't restock that adapter.
I think that's what I received when I bought the bundle... they said they'd ship it to whoever bought the early bird package... I got 2, a long one and a short stubby one (different ofcourse)
LINK to PART 1 DETAILED Review ua-cam.com/video/l_ZO7EMBq_k/v-deo.html
Tested in a Semi ua-cam.com/video/fFMrzC_PJ6E/v-deo.html
Link to purchase the wave: bit.ly/3x3T2PX
Please plug this in to a Solar Panel and tell me again how "DC is more efficient than AC" This units MAX external DC input power is 200W. It **WILL NOT RUN THE COMPRESSOR** on Solar. Only **'Fan Mode'**. I could run a 8000 BTU mini wall unit (still twice the cooling) Overnight on a 300 Ah LifePo battery and a good inverter. ~$2000.00
I bought a wave 2 after watching your video review. I was super excited to receive it. It runs pretty good but has a vibration when compressor ramps up. My main issue is the screen on the wave 2 is glitching every 2-5 seconds. I posted a short clip just so you or anyone knowledgeable knows of a fix. I prefer not to get customer service involved because I don’t want to pay shipping both ways and I hear they take forever.
So sorry that happened, I will turn mine on and use it again this week and see if this happens
It is good to see a portable air conditioner that actually works and performs. I think I can use this in my off grid cabin.
I'd like to see an AC run test in a room as close to designed spec as possible and run it at 72 degrees for 8 hours overnight and what is the kill-o-watt consumption. Max power is good but the power of this unit is the inverter compressor throttling down once you get to temp. Is the potential energy savings worth the 3X cost vs an 8k LG inverter window AC?
Here in Houston we definitely would set it to 60°. 50° if we could. But I like the test, I have the max. Instead of getting the extra battery I’m getting an extra max or the pro.
Costco has the delta pro for $2,849 (gotta dig for it) and a Delta Pro with remote and EV adapter for $2,999 for a few more days…. Also $999 for the smart generator.
Yeah same here in Arizona lol
@Tech Made Easy just want to clarify 2 things here.
1) The two hoses on the back should always be vented toward the outside. One is an air intake to cool the compressor (not air intake to pump into the room) and the other is an out / vent for that compressor hot air to be rejected. By allowing one vent to pull air from the inside (cold) area you are wasting energy -> air cooled by the unit is then recycled to cool the unit's compressor and rejected to outside.
2) The air intake for the air to be cooled is on the front of the unit. So ideally you want this inside of your tent/vehicle so it recycles the cold air and makes it colder rather than taking in hot outside air and trying to cool it down. If this was a swamp cooler than yes you would want the unit outside of the cooling area, but since this is an AC unit you want to pull air to be cooled from inside of your area.
In both part 1 & 2 it didn't seem like that was clear.
Thanks
Can I have the ducts attached on my rooftop window in my car? Or do they have to be leaning out of a door window?
Thank you I just ordered my EcoFlow Delta Pro comes with 200 watts Solar Panel..Just subscribed, from Miami, Florida..Love to Brooklyn..😘
Thank you Maria thanks for joining the family and I'm glad this information was helpful
Thank you for these test, I am highly considering buying this. I live in Japan and teach at many schools that don’t use the AC. I burn up and need something to cool me off. Fans just don’t cut it!
This also would be good for my bedroom, no central air here so just my living room has air. I could use this in my bedroom and sleep ☺️
Problem is, this things almost $2,000 here with no battery and with the battery is $2,700 😳
Wow that's pretty expensive thank you for your comment I appreciate you watching our video
@@TechMadeEzy Sadly, yes very expensive due to the currency rates right now.
I’m wondering if I can buy it without the battery and then get the battery later. This would be very good for use in schools. It blows pretty cold and powerful? Think it could keep me cool if I’m standing near it?
You can plug it into AC until you get a battery, do you have a battery power station? (solar generator)
@@TechMadeEzy I don’t, but I can use the power outlet at schools for now. But a battery would be good in the future, for camping and going to the beach.
Appreciate the tests, nice to see a difference in wattage draw under full load between AC and DC. The room tests are interesting, though. The first room test only utilized the hot exhaust tube and not ambient exterior air return tube. This method is certainly worse-case type of cooling as warm air outside the room will constantly be making its way back into the room causing the AC to work its hardest.
A proper room cooling test using both tubes would be nice to see to see potential run-time differences when the air tubes are plumed properly. The tent test was done with both tubes which is great and was given a proper fighting chance.
Thanks Steve it was so hard to get 1 tube but you are right, appreciate that
As this is an inverter compressor I'd be interested to see the wattage it draws when only maintaining set point to within 1c of the room temperature as all your tests are with it running pretty much flat out.
I sure hope they improved the Wave 2 by a lot, especially power consumption.
Nice review but there is one problem which you have to find out
The test with AC the wave pulled out 500-550 watts which is normal and also Ecoflow represents same watts but on DC supposed to pulled out between 23-30% less watts which supposed to be around 350 you’re wave pulled a lot more 450 and up like one small 5000 window ac unit I think you have to reach out ecoflow and check with them about firmware update on the both batteries and also wave !!
The ecoflow showed on their web site the delta max is capable for 6-6.5 hours of continuous run time on ac mode and for delta pro 12 hours
I watched a lot of videos including in china the wave pulled a lot less watts of DC then you’re unit check with ecoflow support for firmware updates
Nice videos I like you’re channel 👏
Hi Denis, All units had firmware updated before running any tests. Hope these tests helped you, no smoke and mirrors here just real tests.
On the AC test the unit was by the wall and it wasn’t venting properly. That would make the unit work harder.
The wait is over 👍
Thank you for waiting what do you think of our video was it helpful in anyway
Do you need to use the exhaust hose for indoors??
Yes, that hot air needs to go somewhere for sure. I tried it without the tubes and it didn’t so well.
@@TechMadeEzy Emm, Okay, thanks. I wish there was a unit where you could use it without the hose for once.
Can you use the delta max to charge the portable battery on wave while wave is running? It doesnt seem so but I can't imagine why not?
No not the way they designed it. Unless they came out with some type of option. We did some detailed testing on that but you might want to contact Eco flow support
Support@ecoflow.com thanks for watching the video
Have you tried running it on eco mode at 65, 70, and 75 degrees to see how long it will run with the battery back?
No
This Wave is actually a better portable air conditioner when compared to the rather flimsy and under powered Mark 2 which only has around 2300BTUs when compared to the Wave which has 4000BTUs.
Can the battery be used for other appliances like a Jackery would do..
No these are all Proprietary
@@TechMadeEzy thx for the quick response...im going to subscribe😀
Appreciate this!
Thank you any part specifically that help you the most?
Are there similar portable air conditioners, a bit larger (7-8K BTU) that run on DC from the Ecoflow Delta Pro? If I am understanding this correctly, running on AC would drain the solar generator/battery much faster and would not be solution for an extended blackout. Maybe something to test and compare!
Hi Don The AC inverter adds to the drain so it uses more power.
Good video but it would be nice if we can see how it works with the add on battery on eco mode and not at full blast. I don’t think if your going to use this unit out of your house with limited energy that you are going to set it up to the max setting. And I think the AC test was showing high draws because the back of the Wave was close to the wall and wasn’t venting the hot air well. I believe if the unit is venting and sucking air like it supposed too it probably do better drawing power. Anyway, thank you for making this videos.
Thanks and yeah, no way I could do every possible test, video would be 3 hours long. Steve tried getting some feedback and we came up with a few tests together. Sorry Jose
When doing that draw test outta a eco pro unit why didn't you run your intake and exhaust hoses somewhere
Love this unit. It uses more wattage than my 5000 btu air conditioner window unit.🤷♂️
Nathan the nice part is there are multiple modes and it can use less wattage if you're using it on fan or if you're using it on eco mode I haven't tried those modes yet
@@TechMadeEzy ok good to know.
Does anyone know why it makes a loud noise non stop and how to stop it
Sounds like somethings rattling inside.
Does the unit came with the exhaust hose or do you have to buy that separate too?
Comes with all the hoses, see part 1 when you have some time, good basics
The home emergency test, always use both hoses otherwise negative pressure will cause warmer air to be pulled in from outside the room and the cool air sucked out to cool the condenser
Thanks
can you plug in the battery while running the air conditioner? Or can you charge the delta max while it is supplying power to the air conditioner?
I'm confused by your question, did you see the tests we did? We did plug it into the battery and run the AC.
How many charge cycles does the Ecoflow wave battery last?
Hi Kevin, I included that at the end with the specs here it goes 800 cycles to 80% + remaining capacity
@@TechMadeEzy Oh sorry, I must have missed that at the end. Wow, 800 cycles isn’t bad at all. Keep up the good content! Thanks for doing all this work for us!
Thanks Kevin and Keep in mind once it hits 800 cycles it still has 80% battery life left
I wander why they didn’t use lithium lifepo4 .2000 plus cycles.
Just thought you should know I bought the max combo using your code
Thank you for your support and I hope you enjoy it
@@TechMadeEzy thanks for getting us the best code
Will we see a larger EcoFlow Wave Portable Air Conditioner in the near future? I don't believe a 4000 BTU unit will work in our bedroom.
HI Don Not sure, this just launched and I do believe they want to keep it portable but you never know for RVers Vanlife etc.
What’s the thoughts on the differences between test 1 and test 2? That’s almost a 200w difference on DC
DC is usually more effecient, it's not using an inverter which actually pulls more power when you're using AC
@@TechMadeEzy in part one of your video the draw was 300w give or take via DC but this it is 450-500 under DC and under AC is 550-600. I’m curious about the difference between the 300w DC in video 1 vs video 2
From what I noticed, the 1st video test was short just to show how to connect it and to see that it actually worked, as you keep it on and connected longer you get a more accurate test with the wattage being used.
Hahahaha you really got me with that spider 🤣🤣🤣
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5:22 In this way, the test becomes to extract the cold air from the inside to the outside.
Will it run on ac power
Hi Thomas
Yes it comes with a AC cord, I covered that in part 1 showing what was included
I wish they had told me my 2 Delta’s I bought last year wouldn’t work on AC before I bought them !!!!
What do you mean? Which delta models?
@@TechMadeEzy I meant DC battery, I have the Delta
1800 W $1300
Is that the delta 1300 the original delta? The one that doesn’t have an app?
@@TechMadeEzy Yes !!!
You can plug the AC directly into the delta 1300 and power it that way also
You sound like Howard Stern. 👍😀
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Your test seems to be burning through a lot more wattage than another UA-camrs video that I watched in a white lab coat
Agree, I let mine run longer and definitely found different results. Definitely more wattage for sure even connected via DC
@@TechMadeEzy did the compressor ever cycle off during those test?
No
@@TechMadeEzy wow, the room was approximately 90 sq ft? Thanks you the information. I’m building a van and this would be a major purchase, trying to figure out if it’s the right one.
Glad I could help
I do not even own one of these I wish I did When you run off your battery is gonna run a little bit different when you plug it in to wall see the difference I just seen a couple of videos but nobody let it get a temperature see if it turns off
Not that I’m aware of
Use it with the ego nexus power station my dawg
Good idea
Why didn't you show the temp in the kitchen?
These were run time tests, kitchen is huge and open to the house. It wasn’t going to change the temp in the kitchen
I appreciate the video but the test results turned me off to this unit. Another UA-camr claims better results but I don't think he actually ran the unit from full charge to dead. He just showed the screen estimate hours?? I need to re-watch the other video and others too. I'm definitely not sold on the Wave. A widow unit and small generator take up the same space for half to one third the price.
I’m glad it helped in someway I definitely put a lot of time in
Lol not sure why you are so surprised the air coming out is colder, that's what it is supposed to do ;) You also should have stated what the outside air temp is, not what the unit started with. It's probably the same but there could have been some residual heat from the sun or something else.
AC units should drop the temperature of the air it is circulating by roughly 20 degrees measuring from the inlet to the outlet.
11:02 the air is blowing right on the sensor.. of course it’s going to be cooler….. doy
I can buy a 5000btu ac an a little generator for half this price... and will run all night.
Keep working.
Eco made test it out
Doesn't the air conditioner comes with a battery too? Why don't you distinguish between its own battery rine and the additional battery time. I think your tests are a little confusing.
No, this AC does not come with a battery. The battery is an optional extra.
So for thousands of dollars you get a.c for 2 hours
Once the room is cooled down to the set temperature, the AC will start using way less power as it won't have to run the compressor full time. Other channels have tested it with the optional battery and have gotten 6-8hrs of run time. The fact that this has a compressor that can run off DC for greater efficiency is the most exciting part about this AC for me. If I can save 100-200watts during run time, that's a lot of saved battery reserve for when I am on the road.
Another benefit is the size to BTU factor. This is the smallest portable A/C unit rated at 4000 BTU. Traditional portable A/C units that are similar in BTU rating are about 50-75% bigger.
$1200 is a lot, but this is for a niche market with specific needs. This isn't going to be a high volume seller so you don't have the benefit of economy of scales to reduce the price.
EcoFlow won't ship to a p.o address
These are not very useful tests from a practical point of view. First; there are much simpler ways to determine that DC uses less power that AC. You can use a small fan with a wall wort and without and immediately see the difference. Secondly: The Hot air should be vented while the intake brings in the cooler air from the room. In the tent test, I don't understand why both hoses were outside the tent. Third: from a practical real-world point of view, the AC should be on a timer because this makes the WAVE cycle in and out. Reading the temperature during these test conditions is basically meaningless from, a practical point of view.
Your tests aren't very accurate first of all you aren't venting your exhaust and not bringing in outside air. So the compressor is running full time. I would do that test in that bedroom and vent the hoses and set the temp at 75. Now you will get accurate readings
ZzZZZzzzzzz get on with it!
The adapter needed to plug this into a Delta Pro has been sold out for a couple months. I'm going to get this AC in and not be able to use my Delta Pro to power it because they can't restock that adapter.
I think that's what I received when I bought the bundle... they said they'd ship it to whoever bought the early bird package... I got 2, a long one and a short stubby one (different ofcourse)