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You are correct it does work on a single item not the bundle when you buy for example the wave and battery, their discount is already added and yours can not be added on top of that
@@cliff185026 Nope. Works with the bundles too... EcoFlow Wave Portable Air Conditioner + DELTA Pro Sale price $4,249.00 DISCOUNT:HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)
This is a great product for anyone that does not already have a battery bank and inverter and has a small area to cool. if you don't, buy this and an Eco flow power station together, or the battery they made for it. If you already have a battery bank and inverter you should just get a cheaper inverter window unit for around 400 dollars, you will have more btus which is how you measure cooling capacity. 12000 btus is 1 ton of cooling which will cool 500 square ft. this unit is 1/3 ton so it is made to cool about 200 sqaure ft area.
I disagree regarding buying the attached battery. It is an $800 to $900 battery who’s sole purpose is to power the EcoFlow Wave. If the Wave breaks, the battery is useless. You are paying a lot of money for a battery that you will probably use only 3 months a year. EcoFlow could easily had given the battery the capability to charge a phone, tablet, or computer. I would only consider buying this if you had a real need and had a Delta Max or Delta Pro. Otherwise it is way too much money if you have to buy a battery that does nothing else but run the Wave for 3 months a year. I predict EcoFlow will have to give the battery more capability and I would hold off buying it until they do. They rushed this product to the market place without responding to any questions. I think it will impact their sales.
@@gary860 Well, I agree with you on the battery. Which is why I suggested the delta power station first. I would always choose the power station over the battery they made for this unit. Personally, this thing is way to expensive for what it does, same with the zero breeze, this is not new tech, It is just very expensive for less cooling than with a window unit. But you still save money buying this if you dont already have a set up with batteries and an inverter than buying this and a whole battery system and everything you need to charge it.
The manufacturers need to understand that solar generators are largely used in emergencies and need a variety of charging and supplemental battery options. Users will reward those that give them more options! I wish for "junk charging" and "junk supplemental battery" ports that can take anything from 10v DC to 120v DC. :)
The Mark 2 is great if you get it at the openbox price and if your use case is to spot-cool. I owned it for a few months and it's a great product. The Ecoflow wave is far, far more powerful and well-rounded with real thermostat control as all air conditioners should have.
Hey thanks for trying. The easiest solution is going to be for EcoFlow to come out with an optional adapter for other sources. That is if they want to sell mor AC’s .
I have to agree it already comes with a way to run off universal AC. If you want to run off DC your options are to do what I show in this video, get their $600 battery, or one of their Delta products. Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. Ecoflow has no incentive to allow folks to use other brands to run their a/c.
You've created this channel to show and share your personality and insightful knowledge on a great many things that are of interest to a great # of people. Based on your sound advice and knowledgeable recommendations, people, in turn, come to you for answers. Thought that was kind of the point. Now you seem irritated that people seek your input. Seems to me there's a wide ranging # of smart, dull, slow and even wise people that care about what you've offered up to us all to think about and learn from. Sometimes I'm smarter than your average gummy bear. Sometimes, regarding certain things, I'm not. But in this case, I detect some frustration and or annoyance directed at us loyal supporters of what we "thought" you were offering. Was gonna ask you why the sky is blue. Figured it out. The sky is blue because it's sad. Maybe take a break and some time away. I don't "think" your supporters are intentionally trying to irritate you. Seems as though some have.
@@Chubbydippin He gets sent these products to review, not so he can hack job it, so you can save a few pennies at the risk of people electrocuting themselves, or worse, suing him. Now stop pretending to be some 'loyal' viewer and let the man do what he does which is provide information on products. He's already stated that the unit wasn't meant to run without the intended cable and you come in here saying he's irritated. Hell I'd be irritated too all things considered. Your post is neither productive nor supportive of anything. You're just annoying. Hobotech, keep doing what you're doing man, ignore these useless twats.
I strongly believe with zero breeze starting this portable AC units a while back. Then another company jumped on it now This unit won’t be long for other companies following along. Only matter of time… why would a person want to hack this unit. It’s in my option crazy. Blow the unit up break it or worse get them self’s hurt CRAZY it is. PROFESSOR HOBO keep um coming. I hope Bluetti jumps on the AC unit soon. Love my Bluetti’s
A different question that I haven’t seen done. And this would be useless and make no sense but, Can you plug an electric generator into itself? What would happen? Charge itself???
Thank you so much for this video.! You have finally answered a question to many EF1500 owners. (Something Ecoflow never did as they want us to but their new batteries). I wanted to buy the Wave but I wanted to run it from my EF1500 and not throw more $$ on a new device. The EF1500 have 24v connectors on them which I now know I can use to power up the wave comfortably for a long time! Thanks Hobo! 🖖🏻
Use a Delta 2 instead of the Wave 2 battery and you can put in 15 amps instead of 8. My Delta 2 shows 370-380w incoming when using two 12v batteries in series for 24v.
U r a genius person. If I have all these devices in my room. My mother will definitely kills me one day 😂💔 but it’s fun to see the experiments that you love to do. Thanks to make our ideas true 😂❤
I have tested some window ACs and it used less power with the fan on high since the inside and outside fan are coupled if you turn the fan to low the power drops but it climbs back up because the outside fan is slower and I assume the pressures get higher and the compressor has to work harder and it wasn't a big difference but it was there and not working the compressor harder is probably a good thing
EcoFlow is the Apple of all they do…the bigger PPS-Portable Power Stations are iMac comparable and the wave is the iPhone…I can’t wait for more….course the smaller PPS units are great too….the are apple II etc
Love your show! Guess it's okay to call you Hobo since it's in the channel name and I don't know your name IRL. I'm not even a novice tech but it seems they're trying to crave a nitch in the outdoor/ DIY camper world. These would also be great in the trucking industry too. (If you have the power to run it)Even though trucks can start and stop with a thermostat. Not really sure I'd spend all that money on it to begin with though. It does stink that they have it set up the way they did but teething problems happen. I hope the people that have a need for this get the answers they need from this video. Did Bluetti up date they 3,00 so all the batteries can charge from the head/inverter unit?
Can I hook 2 delta batteries together in parallel to have it power my RV with twice the storage? Or can I stack 2 together with shared common to run split phase 220v and run my well?
Thank you for your sensational trick i will convert it to extend the runtime of an Eco Flo with a smaller Jacorey by using 12 V output into the EcoFlow to extent The runtime of my freezer Because the smaller jackery cannot run the freezer And an extension battery is for me to expensive
It is interesting to note how many people don't want to run the air conditioner off of another EcoFlow Product. 😳 I wonder why that is ? 👀 Could it be the EcoFlow Power Generators are just too expensive for what they are and people are unwilling to pay a premium price for a name ? 👀
Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. I think the problem more is that most don't want to buy a Delta just to run this a/c unit and aren't thinking about the other uses for a top end solar generator.
@@HOBOTECH I calculate, if you want to embrace the EcoFlow 220 VOLT AC, dual phase battery backup solution to run your house for 4 to 5 days at a time, then you will need to pay EcoFlow the premium price of $23,000.00 USD for the privilege. 😳🥺👎🏻
Actually a pair of Delta Pro with the double voltage hub for 240v operation would be under $8000. If you want to run for days on emergency power then yes you would want to add batteries to that. However, to run my 240v house for days cost me well over $25k in DIY equipment and that's building my own batteries from raw cells so is Ecoflow really that much more?
@@HOBOTECH I would say no, but my point is the whole setup is still costing such a high premium that there are not many folks who can afford to shell out this kind of money. There's the $8,000.00 USD just to get you in the door with a functional system which will run your entire house for a few hours, then there's the real cost you need to pay in order to buy enough battery storage to facilitate a practical running time, and then there's the need to feed that extra battery system with enough solar panels to actually keep that system in full opeartion (2,500 + Watts of panels at least). It's an entreprise operation solution required. This is just too complicated and too much cash for the average person. Hopefully, in the future, we will have more affordable turn key solutions from these same manufacturers ?
@@markjob6354 This is actually one of the SIMPLEST solutions for home backup which is why it costs more. If you go the DIY route it will save you money assuming you know what you're actually doing which most don't. DIY can get extremely complicated. These Ecoflow units are meant for emergency use to power critical loads during a blackout and not a 30kwh/day home with every appliance running. For that you need a $50k+ solution. Apples to oranges. If you do wire the Ecoflow into your home you can write off 26% of the cost of the entire system (including panels) through the current federal solar tax credit. Ecoflow grosses tens of millions in sales per year so someone has to be buying them...
I get why EcoFlow does this. When a compressor kicks on, there is a heavy load; unless the power input can handle it, there could be issues. For a battery, the BMS might not be able to handle the load. I will use a power inverter feed by a battery. I know there will be some loss from the inverter, but it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than the $800.00 battery add-on. targeting 800-1000w inverter. I'll test with a Giandel 600w with a surge capacity of 1200w first.
Question for the Professionals. Seeing this AC gives me a whatever could be. Are we beginning to see the future of applications for your house. How about a Refrigerator, Range, HVAC, Water Heaters, and all DC home 🏡. Can we say saving 20% by using DC? Asking for a friend! Thanks for your work.
The part where you connect 24VDC to the wave while it is running and demonstrate a readout on the wave indicating a longer run time is encouraging. Ecoflow said on their FB forum that you could not simultaneously run the unit and charge the battery with the DC cable. They said this was due to the 200w solar charging limitation. So I assumed that while the unit was running that the DC charging circuit would be disabled.
@@HOBOTECH Perhaps the Wave is simply ingesting the power from your custom DC source and supplementing itself from the battery as needed? That, too, could explain the longer battery life. Would have been great to see an example using a step up converter. I can see many 12v VanLifers willing to go this route if they could leverage existing solar/lithium options.
I know that you are sick of doing refrigerator/freezer reviews. If you can find the time would you please review the Bougerv CC55 it's a 59qt refrigerator/freezer I've never seen a review on one. Thank you for the great reviews. Keep up the good work
Thank you for this! I almost bought myself a wave 2 thinking I could run it off my LifeP04. I hate when manufacturers get into proprietary systems. Screw EcoFlow. Not for me!
Just subscribed. Like your style and knowledge Hobo. I want and need these battery technos. Waiting for finance and tech to increase to something which makes me say 'AWESOME!!!' Note: I live in a motorhome. Just me Jesus and my bull terrier. Thankyou.
Really need to have a product manual that has the internal schematics and motor and system in the cooling unit b4 doing anything other than using the equipment intended to run it. So most likely less than 2000 BTU the way you got it running through the 24 volt solar port. Any link to the real technical manuals?
Crazy Ecoflow thinking by capping the solar DC input with 12-30v 8A. If they made it 16A it would have been perfect for DIY battery (solar) hookup and a lot more of these standalone Ecoflow AC´s with battery would be sold. Now you can´t run it indefinitely on DC, still have to buy an included battery and use it only with AC wall power.
I wouldn't be surprised if some dodgy cable turns up on Alibaba soon to allow for universal DC charging , but I wonder if that will be defeated by a firmware update.
Probably doesn't apply to this particular EF 48vdc cable, BUUUUT 'some' companies add what are basically dummy pins to create a proprietary cable; sometimes with pin(s) powering a useless LED.
Those pins are definitely data pins. It may short some of those pins to turn it on. With a schematic, it's probably possible, but obviously not recommended. The 24V battery idea is good, but I'm not sure if I would trust the regulation circutry on the solar charge controller. I'd probably put some sort of current limiter in front of it for safety. At around 220W-250W at 24v.
@@noahpan496 Unfortunately I don't. If I did, I'd share. Someone has had to have ripped one apart by now. Best guess is they are voltage sense m/reference pins or some sort of pwm style cann bus, like door latch sensors in modern cars.
i actually opened up my ecoflow wave today and got the pin out. The pins listed on the board, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, SIGOUT, WAKEUP, CAN-L, CAN-H. You are right, it is communicated through CAN protocol, I presume the first three, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, and SIGOUT are for the display. I am going to try to apply 5v to the WAKEUP pin to see if it comes up, while applying 52v to the exterior pins.
Now y’all done got on Hobotech’s last dern nerves with asking these questions so stop with it nah 😂🤣 save up, make a clean purchase without jolting yourself with a diy-workaround or buy something else if this is not your price point.
Hobo, quick question: I’ve got the wave packaged with the Delta Max. Following the directions, I connected the extra battery cable from the wave to the delta max. The wave powers up but won’t engage the fan or compressor. But when I connect the ac cord and run that to the Max, works fine. The instructions are incorrect.
UPDATE: What Ecoflow doesn’t tell you is that your Wave unit may need a firmware update. My unit wouldn’t power up using the battery cable to my Delta Max. I connected the app to my Wave, updated the firmware, and voilà! Now the Wave connected to DC on the Delta Max works just fine.
I don't see how making A/C that cools 64 sq. Ft. That over 2,500 not including the battery or solar to plugging in a 150 dollar A/C window unit with soft start that cools 300 sq. Ft.🤔💵
First, I don't know where you get your math. A 4000 BTU will easily cool 200 sqft. I also don't know where you get your price. This a/c is $1199 NOT $2500. You can't compare this to a cheap window unit. This is meant for portable/camping/RV use! Watch my other two videos and I explain it.
Wow, maybe edit the suggestion list to stuff mentioned in this video. You reference a power cord adapter on your Amazon page but I couldn't find it among all the things not mentioned in this video. Ugh
SMOKING two packs of Cigarettes a day is actually good for you. If you drill a hole in the package and solder a jumper fitting on it. But do not try it if you are left handed because it will only work during certain hours of the day.
Professor: I have only 1 question….WHY would anyone would want to try a hack, considering the time, expense, and the potential for personal injury/product damage to this obviously pricey product???
Maybe the professor is showing what can happen if you do what you shouldn't? You know someone out there, with less knowledge than the prof, is gonna try it.
Because people do dumb things to save a buck. I think the way they marketed the pricy bundles was poor. They sell bundles with expensive battery generators and don't explain why you should get the generator too. Its NOT just for running the a/c but has a million uses of its own including home backup. This is what folks are paying for. Most just look at how much it costs with a battery generator and say "I'm not paying $2500 for an air conditioner!" when the reality is the a/c is actually just an add-on product!
Thanks Hobo, EcoFlow has a XT60 solar hook up (as you showed hooked into a lifepo4 battery) and a XT60 cigarette lighter charger hook up. For the purpose of hooking into a 200amp 24 volt lifepo4 battery would one be preferred over the other?
Thanks for making this follow up video. It is definitely helpful, though your results were disappointing, I suppose we cant be too surprised as this is how companies leverage more money out of customers
Hi professor Hobo Thanks for all your precious advices you are the best! I purchase with your link the Delta Max and the EcoFlow Wave AC combo and i love it! I would love to recharge the Delta Max with solar so i buy the 300watts ATEM POWER solar panel blanket cause they are more then half of the price of the EcoFlow portable solar panel and they are much more compact. But i have a problem the connection wires who comes with the ATEM do not match with the one who comes with the Delta Max. Can you please call tell me witch adaptor and wires should i buy and can you please send me the link of them is you sale them. Do you have a email by chance where i can send you pictures about that ? if that helps cause i have no knowledge on electricity. If by chance you can do a review of the ATEM Power solar blanket that will be very interesting for your followers i think. Thanks a lot by advance 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Would you be able to do a 100ah lifepo 4 battery with a 12 to 24v booster off of it? The lifepo4 batteries I have unfortunately can not be put into series.
The comment spam is because ecoflow batteries are too fucking expensive Yeah they're more expensive, but an inverter is a lot cheaper, your battery to an inverter, to the AC unit, and you get ti save $1200
what abought using a DC 12v to 24v Step up Converter Regulator 10A 240W Power Supply Adapter from a 12volt house bank 200amp hr batteries, witch I'm charging with a 530w solar using renogy dc-dc mppt 50a . will it take all 240w or cap it off at 200w
They don't require extra pins for their AC cords that power their solar generators, so why do they require pins for this charging cord? Obviously to make it proprietary. And I'm sure they would answer complaints to this by saying, this is to make sure the power source is compatible with our product. They don't have special AC charging cords with proprietary pins for their solar generators because no one would tolerate that.
hey hobo, so I live in south florida and I am looking for a unit that can handle my full size refrigerator during hurricane season power outages. what do you recommend? thanks
Anything with at least a 1000w inverter and at least 1000wh battery. (This will get you around 7hrs depending on your AC power requirements) Skip the jackery and look at bluetti and ecoflow.
I'd look at the larger modular units(200p or max or 300) Bluetti has or the 500. 500 is a whole house unit. Maxed out modulars & 500 can hook to your panel box if you like.
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When you add code, the cost goes up over what they’re currently offering. FYI
@@cliff185026 Just tried the code. Works fine. "HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)"
You are correct it does work on a single item not the bundle when you buy for example the wave and battery, their discount is already added and yours can not be added on top of that
@@cliff185026 Nope. Works with the bundles too... EcoFlow Wave Portable Air Conditioner + DELTA Pro Sale price $4,249.00
DISCOUNT:HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)
No support from EcoFlow!
I would definitely need something like this to cool down my tent and charging it thru solar panels is a plus.
This is exactly the channel I was looking for that I couldn't find.
THANK YOU!
Professor HOBO is all knowing! MUST ASK HIM THE SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is a great product for anyone that does not already have a battery bank and inverter and has a small area to cool. if you don't, buy this and an Eco flow power station together, or the battery they made for it. If you already have a battery bank and inverter you should just get a cheaper inverter window unit for around 400 dollars, you will have more btus which is how you measure cooling capacity. 12000 btus is 1 ton of cooling which will cool 500 square ft. this unit is 1/3 ton so it is made to cool about 200 sqaure ft area.
I disagree regarding buying the attached battery. It is an $800 to $900 battery who’s sole purpose is to power the EcoFlow Wave. If the Wave breaks, the battery is useless. You are paying a lot of money for a battery that you will probably use only 3 months a year. EcoFlow could easily had given the battery the capability to charge a phone, tablet, or computer. I would only consider buying this if you had a real need and had a Delta Max or Delta Pro. Otherwise it is way too much money if you have to buy a battery that does nothing else but run the Wave for 3 months a year. I predict EcoFlow will have to give the battery more capability and I would hold off buying it until they do. They rushed this product to the market place without responding to any questions. I think it will impact their sales.
@@gary860 Well, I agree with you on the battery. Which is why I suggested the delta power station first. I would always choose the power station over the battery they made for this unit. Personally, this thing is way to expensive for what it does, same with the zero breeze, this is not new tech, It is just very expensive for less cooling than with a window unit. But you still save money buying this if you dont already have a set up with batteries and an inverter than buying this and a whole battery system and everything you need to charge it.
Hey Hobo, can I connect the EcoFlow Delta to my Radio Shack gray-and-red flashlight I got with my free coupon in 1977?
Lol
I actually remember that! 😲🤣👍
Radio Shack, those were the days.
The answer is maybe 🤔
BECAUSE….
The flashlight 🔦 ships with no batteries😅
SO……
Did you buy them?
The manufacturers need to understand that solar generators are largely used in emergencies and need a variety of charging and supplemental battery options. Users will reward those that give them more options! I wish for "junk charging" and "junk supplemental battery" ports that can take anything from 10v DC to 120v DC. :)
I was supposed to get the Mark 2, but when I saw that the Wave has 4000BTUs, it was a no brainer.
The Mark 2 is great if you get it at the openbox price and if your use case is to spot-cool. I owned it for a few months and it's a great product. The Ecoflow wave is far, far more powerful and well-rounded with real thermostat control as all air conditioners should have.
the wave 2 is more powerful, right?
Excellent video demonstrating the solar input charging options. Thank you.
Hey thanks for trying. The easiest solution is going to be for EcoFlow to come out with an optional adapter for other sources. That is if they want to sell mor AC’s .
They have one.... it's called the AC cord.
I have to agree it already comes with a way to run off universal AC. If you want to run off DC your options are to do what I show in this video, get their $600 battery, or one of their Delta products. Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. Ecoflow has no incentive to allow folks to use other brands to run their a/c.
You've created this channel to show and share your personality and insightful knowledge on a great many things that are of interest to a great # of people. Based on your sound advice and knowledgeable recommendations, people, in turn, come to you for answers. Thought that was kind of the point. Now you seem irritated that people seek your input. Seems to me there's a wide ranging # of smart, dull, slow and even wise people that care about what you've offered up to us all to think about and learn from. Sometimes I'm smarter than your average gummy bear. Sometimes, regarding certain things, I'm not. But in this case, I detect some frustration and or annoyance directed at us loyal supporters of what we "thought" you were offering. Was gonna ask you why the sky is blue. Figured it out. The sky is blue because it's sad. Maybe take a break and some time away. I don't "think" your supporters are intentionally trying to irritate you. Seems as though some have.
@@Chubbydippin what a dbag. Get a life.
@@Chubbydippin He gets sent these products to review, not so he can hack job it, so you can save a few pennies at the risk of people electrocuting themselves, or worse, suing him.
Now stop pretending to be some 'loyal' viewer and let the man do what he does which is provide information on products. He's already stated that the unit wasn't meant to run without the intended cable and you come in here saying he's irritated. Hell I'd be irritated too all things considered. Your post is neither productive nor supportive of anything. You're just annoying.
Hobotech, keep doing what you're doing man, ignore these useless twats.
I strongly believe with zero breeze starting this portable AC units a while back. Then another company jumped on it now This unit won’t be long for other companies following along. Only matter of time… why would a person want to hack this unit. It’s in my option crazy. Blow the unit up break it or worse get them self’s hurt CRAZY it is. PROFESSOR HOBO keep um coming. I hope Bluetti jumps on the AC unit soon. Love my Bluetti’s
People do anything to save a buck ...
@@HOBOTECH I guess so mr Professor but missing with that and that amount of juice is out of my pay grade…..💥💥🎩
Can't wait to see how you hook up to the iss
Talking to Elon about this now...
Very through analysis, I had the 12v battery bank question. Thank you!
Interesting as always. My real question: when is Bluetti coming out with theirs. 😉
exactly my thoughts! ... I suspect it's in pre production testing now ...
@@zingbopdelux Man, that be cool!
This is a pretty cool portable air conditioner. I can use my Delta Pro with it.
SUPER video - thanks. Even the 6-7 hour extension off of 12v DC might be worth it for some.
Can I hook this up to my.......Just Kidding. Great video thanks
A different question that I haven’t seen done. And this would be useless and make no sense but, Can you plug an electric generator into itself? What would happen? Charge itself???
Thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks for the solar plug idea! Always learning. Love the Star Trek insert! (that was a brutal episode!). Oh, and...ODIN!!!! And...THOR!!!
Thank you so much for this video.!
You have finally answered a question to many EF1500 owners. (Something Ecoflow never did as they want us to but their new batteries). I wanted to buy the Wave but I wanted to run it from my EF1500 and not throw more $$ on a new device.
The EF1500 have 24v connectors on them which I now know I can use to power up the wave comfortably for a long time!
Thanks Hobo! 🖖🏻
Use a Delta 2 instead of the Wave 2 battery and you can put in 15 amps instead of 8.
My Delta 2 shows 370-380w incoming when using two 12v batteries in series for 24v.
Love me some Hobo!!! Keep up the great work....I need Mo' Tom-Bell!
U r a genius person. If I have all these devices in my room. My mother will definitely kills me one day 😂💔 but it’s fun to see the experiments that you love to do. Thanks to make our ideas true 😂❤
Not just informative..very entertaining.
Thanks for the informative video
Great review as always and the ending is awesome! 😎
I would love to see you hook up one of these in a hostler truck
I have tested some window ACs and it used less power with the fan on high since the inside and outside fan are coupled if you turn the fan to low the power drops but it climbs back up because the outside fan is slower and I assume the pressures get higher and the compressor has to work harder and it wasn't a big difference but it was there and not working the compressor harder is probably a good thing
Hello Professor Hobo. Great Video
Having it be a universal DC option it would have been a lot more user friendly I don't know if that's the right term but it would have been nice
🥳Yea! I have the AC300/w2B300🎉 Would love to see a detailed set up with this set up. Gonna go dig through my adapters!
See my recent wave 2 video.
@@HOBOTECH kk!
I crack up every time you do the 4 lights clip
This is one of the many reasons why we LuvU🍀Robo-Mansor
Knowing what not to do is still knowing 💡
What we need is stable 60V Outlet from Powerstations and a lot of devices that runs @60V DC.
EcoFlow is the Apple of all they do…the bigger PPS-Portable Power Stations are iMac comparable and the wave is the iPhone…I can’t wait for more….course the smaller PPS units are great too….the are apple II etc
3:07 the star for the future of Ecoflow is that plug according to my crystal ball….that and also that they make quality stuff.
Love your show! Guess it's okay to call you Hobo since it's in the channel name and I don't know your name IRL. I'm not even a novice tech but it seems they're trying to crave a nitch in the outdoor/ DIY camper world. These would also be great in the trucking industry too. (If you have the power to run it)Even though trucks can start and stop with a thermostat. Not really sure I'd spend all that money on it to begin with though. It does stink that they have it set up the way they did but teething problems happen. I hope the people that have a need for this get the answers they need from this video. Did Bluetti up date they 3,00 so all the batteries can charge from the head/inverter unit?
Can I hook 2 delta batteries together in parallel to have it power my RV with twice the storage?
Or can I stack 2 together with shared common to run split phase 220v and run my well?
Great video! Lots of information, keep up the great work!
Thank you for your sensational trick i will convert it to extend the runtime of an Eco Flo with a smaller Jacorey by using 12 V output into the EcoFlow to extent The runtime of my freezer Because the smaller jackery cannot run the freezer And an extension battery is for me to expensive
It is interesting to note how many people don't want to run the air conditioner off of another EcoFlow Product. 😳 I wonder why that is ? 👀 Could it be the EcoFlow Power Generators are just too expensive for what they are and people are unwilling to pay a premium price for a name ? 👀
Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. I think the problem more is that most don't want to buy a Delta just to run this a/c unit and aren't thinking about the other uses for a top end solar generator.
@@HOBOTECH I calculate, if you want to embrace the EcoFlow 220 VOLT AC, dual phase battery backup solution to run your house for 4 to 5 days at a time, then you will need to pay EcoFlow the premium price of $23,000.00 USD for the privilege. 😳🥺👎🏻
Actually a pair of Delta Pro with the double voltage hub for 240v operation would be under $8000. If you want to run for days on emergency power then yes you would want to add batteries to that. However, to run my 240v house for days cost me well over $25k in DIY equipment and that's building my own batteries from raw cells so is Ecoflow really that much more?
@@HOBOTECH I would say no, but my point is the whole setup is still costing such a high premium that there are not many folks who can afford to shell out this kind of money. There's the $8,000.00 USD just to get you in the door with a functional system which will run your entire house for a few hours, then there's the real cost you need to pay in order to buy enough battery storage to facilitate a practical running time, and then there's the need to feed that extra battery system with enough solar panels to actually keep that system in full opeartion (2,500 + Watts of panels at least). It's an entreprise operation solution required. This is just too complicated and too much cash for the average person. Hopefully, in the future, we will have more affordable turn key solutions from these same manufacturers ?
@@markjob6354 This is actually one of the SIMPLEST solutions for home backup which is why it costs more. If you go the DIY route it will save you money assuming you know what you're actually doing which most don't. DIY can get extremely complicated. These Ecoflow units are meant for emergency use to power critical loads during a blackout and not a 30kwh/day home with every appliance running. For that you need a $50k+ solution. Apples to oranges. If you do wire the Ecoflow into your home you can write off 26% of the cost of the entire system (including panels) through the current federal solar tax credit. Ecoflow grosses tens of millions in sales per year so someone has to be buying them...
I get why EcoFlow does this. When a compressor kicks on, there is a heavy load; unless the power input can handle it, there could be issues. For a battery, the BMS might not be able to handle the load. I will use a power inverter feed by a battery. I know there will be some loss from the inverter, but it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than the $800.00 battery add-on. targeting 800-1000w inverter. I'll test with a Giandel 600w with a surge capacity of 1200w first.
I'm wondering if you can find the DC output of the internal AC power supply and tap into that.
Interesting. I have a kickstarter EF1500 that has terminals for 24v. Hmm.... tempting.
Good job Tom that a big help love it
BLUETTI EB70 700w LiFePO4 Generator
404 error for this link just fyi. Thanks for all the great info you put out.
Ok 👌 👍 thanks 🙏 and I would say no warranty with all said and done ✅. My how people try.
Question for the Professionals. Seeing this AC gives me a whatever could be. Are we beginning to see the future of applications for your house. How about a Refrigerator, Range, HVAC, Water Heaters, and all DC home 🏡. Can we say saving 20% by using DC? Asking for a friend! Thanks for your work.
The part where you connect 24VDC to the wave while it is running and demonstrate a readout on the wave indicating a longer run time is encouraging. Ecoflow said on their FB forum that you could not simultaneously run the unit and charge the battery with the DC cable. They said this was due to the 200w solar charging limitation. So I assumed that while the unit was running that the DC charging circuit would be disabled.
That's definitely not the case. It wouldn't make sense for them to disable solar input while running.
@@HOBOTECH Perhaps the Wave is simply ingesting the power from your custom DC source and supplementing itself from the battery as needed? That, too, could explain the longer battery life.
Would have been great to see an example using a step up converter. I can see many 12v VanLifers willing to go this route if they could leverage existing solar/lithium options.
I know that you are sick of doing refrigerator/freezer reviews. If you can find the time would you please review the Bougerv CC55 it's a 59qt refrigerator/freezer I've never seen a review on one. Thank you for the great reviews. Keep up the good work
Damn they lucked out I was about to buy the battery and wave 2 bundle. But all I have is bluetti and drprepare batteries
Thank you for this! I almost bought myself a wave 2 thinking I could run it off my LifeP04. I hate when manufacturers get into proprietary systems. Screw EcoFlow. Not for me!
Try watching the review of the NEW model... it supports 12v-60v charging. ua-cam.com/video/2NBfhABwn18/v-deo.html
So the new model will run direct off a LifePo4 24 volt system or do you still need to buy at least one of their batteries?
@@TroyD-vo1bz you still need to buy one of their NMC batteries.. either the add-on or an ecoflow power station. Same cable, it looks like
Just subscribed. Like your style and knowledge Hobo. I want and need these battery technos. Waiting for finance and tech to increase to something which makes me say 'AWESOME!!!' Note: I live in a motorhome. Just me Jesus and my bull terrier. Thankyou.
Instead of using 2 batteries you could use a Victron 12-24v converter
What about 12 volt batteries in parallel?
As always another great review. I like this little AC unit but it's just too damn expensive
Will it run off of a hamster wheel? 😂
thanks for all u do.
seems like Eco flow would be on this.
i have bg bucks tied into 4 Batties plus a SG. would love to use what i hjave for this ac.
Hobo Tech.
Great video.
I already have my bad ass Pecron 2000lfp. Expandable.
Just got it.
When are you going to review it?
Can I use my Gyrominublater to power it up ?
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
I hope Bluetti comes out with there own version, that is less proprietary in connecting
with other brands of solar generators.
Don't count on it. A brand that sells batteries has no incentive to allow 3rd party charging.
Thanks!
Really need to have a product manual that has the internal schematics and motor and system in the cooling unit b4 doing anything other than using the equipment intended to run it. So most likely less than 2000 BTU the way you got it running through the 24 volt solar port. Any link to the real technical manuals?
Crazy Ecoflow thinking by capping the solar DC input with 12-30v 8A. If they made it 16A it would have been perfect for DIY battery (solar) hookup and a lot more of these standalone Ecoflow AC´s with battery would be sold. Now you can´t run it indefinitely on DC, still have to buy an included battery and use it only with AC wall power.
Yes can you tell me what the best $5,000 inverter to purchase I like to know please
I wouldn't be surprised if some dodgy cable turns up on Alibaba soon to allow for universal DC charging , but I wonder if that will be defeated by a firmware update.
Still waiting for someone to plug the wave 2 they said it’s coming out in may don’t know why they don’t have there products out there to hype up sales
Probably doesn't apply to this particular EF 48vdc cable, BUUUUT 'some' companies add what are basically dummy pins to create a proprietary cable; sometimes with pin(s) powering a useless LED.
I bet there's at least one pin supplying a reference "i'm here" voltage to tell the power supply circuitry in the wave to run in bypass dc mode.
@@stevey500 Yep. You're on to it.
Thats badass
Those pins are definitely data pins. It may short some of those pins to turn it on. With a schematic, it's probably possible, but obviously not recommended. The 24V battery idea is good, but I'm not sure if I would trust the regulation circutry on the solar charge controller. I'd probably put some sort of current limiter in front of it for safety. At around 220W-250W at 24v.
God I wish I had the schematic, do you have the battery so that you can probe the pins?
@@noahpan496 Unfortunately I don't. If I did, I'd share. Someone has had to have ripped one apart by now. Best guess is they are voltage sense m/reference pins or some sort of pwm style cann bus, like door latch sensors in modern cars.
Haha I’m searching everywhere for someone to have done it. The battery is sold out on the eco flow website too.
i actually opened up my ecoflow wave today and got the pin out.
The pins listed on the board, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, SIGOUT, WAKEUP, CAN-L, CAN-H.
You are right, it is communicated through CAN protocol,
I presume the first three, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, and SIGOUT are for the display.
I am going to try to apply 5v to the WAKEUP pin to see if it comes up, while applying 52v to the exterior pins.
@@noahpan496 I figured that's what it would be. Let me know how you make out! Curious
I only need cooling at bedtime. Can i use 48 volt solar panels straight to the wave 2 and charge during the day?
Now y’all done got on Hobotech’s last dern nerves with asking these questions so stop with it nah 😂🤣 save up, make a clean purchase without jolting yourself with a diy-workaround or buy something else if this is not your price point.
Plug and play for me too! Not going to bypass or make something that may not work (or blow up in my face).
@@GinaKayLandis 😂🤣 well said Gina! let’s leave that to the professionals!
Hobo, quick question: I’ve got the wave packaged with the Delta Max. Following the directions, I connected the extra battery cable from the wave to the delta max. The wave powers up but won’t engage the fan or compressor. But when I connect the ac cord and run that to the Max, works fine. The instructions are incorrect.
UPDATE: What Ecoflow doesn’t tell you is that your Wave unit may need a firmware update. My unit wouldn’t power up using the battery cable to my Delta Max. I connected the app to my Wave, updated the firmware, and voilà! Now the Wave connected to DC on the Delta Max works just fine.
I don't see how making
A/C that cools 64 sq. Ft. That over 2,500 not including the battery or solar to plugging in a 150 dollar A/C window unit with soft start that cools 300 sq. Ft.🤔💵
First, I don't know where you get your math. A 4000 BTU will easily cool 200 sqft. I also don't know where you get your price. This a/c is $1199 NOT $2500. You can't compare this to a cheap window unit. This is meant for portable/camping/RV use! Watch my other two videos and I explain it.
This would be great on the ISS, just open the window to draw in air from outside...
Wow, maybe edit the suggestion list to stuff mentioned in this video. You reference a power cord adapter on your Amazon page but I couldn't find it among all the things not mentioned in this video. Ugh
Sure seems like the workaround is not the best choice.
SMOKING two packs of Cigarettes a day is actually good for you. If you drill a hole in the package and solder a jumper fitting on it. But do not try it if you are left handed because it will only work during certain hours of the day.
Professor: I have only 1 question….WHY would anyone would want to try a hack, considering the time, expense, and the potential for personal injury/product damage to this obviously pricey product???
@@gamerfortynine You have a point, but I see no upside considering the Professor’s multiple mentions at the beginning of the video of a fire hazard.
Maybe the professor is showing what can happen if you do what you shouldn't? You know someone out there, with less knowledge than the prof, is gonna try it.
Because people do dumb things to save a buck. I think the way they marketed the pricy bundles was poor. They sell bundles with expensive battery generators and don't explain why you should get the generator too. Its NOT just for running the a/c but has a million uses of its own including home backup. This is what folks are paying for. Most just look at how much it costs with a battery generator and say "I'm not paying $2500 for an air conditioner!" when the reality is the a/c is actually just an add-on product!
@@HOBOTECH Professor: Thanks for putting things in their proper perspective.
@@retrotek0409 You’re right. If everyone was rational/smart, this world wouldn’t be so screwed-up.
Thanks Hobo, EcoFlow has a XT60 solar hook up (as you showed hooked into a lifepo4 battery) and a XT60 cigarette lighter charger hook up. For the purpose of hooking into a 200amp 24 volt lifepo4 battery would one be preferred over the other?
Thanks for making this follow up video. It is definitely helpful, though your results were disappointing, I suppose we cant be too surprised as this is how companies leverage more money out of customers
That star trek episode 😂
Hi professor Hobo
Thanks for all your precious advices you are the best!
I purchase with your link the Delta Max and the EcoFlow Wave AC combo and i love it!
I would love to recharge the Delta Max with solar so i buy the 300watts ATEM POWER solar panel blanket cause they are more then half of the price of the EcoFlow portable solar panel and they are much more compact.
But i have a problem the connection wires who comes with the ATEM do not match with the one who comes with the Delta Max.
Can you please call tell me witch adaptor and wires should i buy and can you please send me the link of them is you sale them.
Do you have a email by chance where i can send you pictures about that ? if that helps cause i have no knowledge on electricity.
If by chance you can do a review of the ATEM Power solar blanket that will be very interesting for your followers i think.
Thanks a lot by advance 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@HOBOTECH Where can I buy an Ecoflow to ISS adapter? 🤔
Can you run it off of the EcoFlow River 2 Pro, assuming you also have the Wave 2 battery?
Someone needs to find out what those pins do, so this unit can be used with any DC battery
We wrote Ecoflow support and they said the Ecoflow wave might be in the U.S. market this May. Can't we order it over sea's?
Looked for your report on Eco Flow Delta Mini but didn't find it anywhere/
Why have you not said anything about the ecoflow using batteries that loose 20% after 800 cycles?
Would you be able to do a 100ah lifepo 4 battery with a 12 to 24v booster off of it? The lifepo4 batteries I have unfortunately can not be put into series.
GrrrrRRREEEEeeeeEEEeting…. Positive Comment!!!!
The comment spam is because ecoflow batteries are too fucking expensive
Yeah they're more expensive, but an inverter is a lot cheaper, your battery to an inverter, to the AC unit, and you get ti save $1200
Can I plug in the wall
Wondering if you have done any testing on the new Geneverse (formally Generac name)?
Cool 😎
what abought using a DC 12v to 24v Step up Converter Regulator 10A 240W Power Supply Adapter from a 12volt house bank 200amp hr batteries, witch I'm charging with a 530w solar using renogy dc-dc mppt 50a . will it take all 240w or cap it off at 200w
WILL A LEOCH WORK ON THAT?
They don't require extra pins for their AC cords that power their solar generators, so why do they require pins for this charging cord? Obviously to make it proprietary. And I'm sure they would answer complaints to this by saying, this is to make sure the power source is compatible with our product. They don't have special AC charging cords with proprietary pins for their solar generators because no one would tolerate that.
Does anyone know if the Ecoflow river 720 watt battery would work to power this AC?
If you watch the video I answer that question.
hey hobo, so I live in south florida and I am looking for a unit that can handle my full size refrigerator during hurricane season power outages. what do you recommend? thanks
Anything with at least a 1000w inverter and at least 1000wh battery. (This will get you around 7hrs depending on your AC power requirements)
Skip the jackery and look at bluetti and ecoflow.
@@grindychum or a Titan
I'd look at the larger modular units(200p or max or 300) Bluetti has or the 500. 500 is a whole house unit. Maxed out modulars & 500 can hook to your panel box if you like.
hobotech.tv/large-home-backup-ups-240v-solar-generator-power-stations/
Why post a question that is completely unrelated to the video? HT and others have videos already addressing your question if you search YT.
What about the Bluetti AC200's 25 amp 12 volt port? Would that be safe and get any more run time than the cigarette plug?
It would work the same as the 12v demo shown in this video.
@@HOBOTECH thanks professor for pointing that out👍🎩