EcoFlow Wave 2 vs ZeroBreeze Mark 2: Ultimate Camping Cooling Battle!
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Looking to stay cool without having to have an expensive and permanent air conditioning unit? Or maybe you are a camper looking for a way to beat the summer heat when adventuring in nature?
In this video, I review the brand-new EcoFlow Wave 2 and compare it to the ZeroBreeze Mark 2. In this portable AC shootout, I compare these two units head to head in two distinct scenarios.
First, I see how the EcoFlow Wave 2 and the ZeroBreeze Mark 2 handle a normal tent camping situation. This test will be great for those summertime campers and overlanders who are looking for a portable air conditioning unit to add to their camping kit.
The second test takes the EcoFlow Wave 2 and the ZeroBreeze Mark 2 in our custom-converted camper van to see if they can handle cooling a larger space. This will be a perfect test for those van lifers looking for a portable air conditioning unit for their custom DIY Van. This unit is also great for those with smaller trailers like teardrop trailers.
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00:00 Introduction
02:33 Unboxing The
03:12 Unboxing The
03:44 Design Features
07:32 EcoFlow Wave 2
12:26 ZeroBreeze Specs
13:36 Eccoflow Wave 2
14:38 Setting
15:51 Testing The
16:52 How Well The
18:28 Can The
20:09 The Final
24:57 Who Benefits
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I am a mailman in south Florida. I have been wanting info on both these products!! Thank you very much!
It was 102° in my mail truck yesterday :/
If you get one. Let us know how it works out!
I am a mailman too and I am here for that too lol...
This comparison really helped me inch toward a decision. Thank you for breaking things down in your tests, and breaking down who they would be best for. Really lays things out for the spectrum of outdoor needs, comfort, and setups. Just subscribed!
Wave 2 being a heater as well as ac is a no brainer
Well thought out and nicely done comparison. I also appreciate the fact that you made us aware that you did purchase both units.
You just earned another subscriber‼️😉😎
Cools my entire basement & fixed my moisture issue! Love it
Thanks for doing all this work for us. I was leaning towards the zero, now I’m all for the wave.
You have been the best video explaining zero breeze vs eco flow
Well ......
Fantastic review/comparison! Thank you! 😊
Omg thank goodness for the window flap that holds the exhaust pipe in place. Wow!
Great honest Video! Earned a subscriber. Keep up that great videos.
Hi Riley been watching from Ireland thank you so much my friend.
Thanks for this review! I’m a new subscriber and look forward to more content from you 👍🏽
Thank you for these reviews.
Thank you for this Non-Biased review. Hard to find these anymore...
Non-biased... he got both for free and has an affiliate link... he dosnt care which one you buy... either youre a bot or a shill
Great review. Thanks 👍
Excellent review. Thanks
Loved the review
Well done, Riley, thanks
Great review !!
Thanks for this test, it is very useful 🙂.
Nice review and thanks for all your hard work!
Glad it helped and thank you!
Awesome review, thanks. Just bought the Wave 2 and battery. Were in Australia so needed a bit extra grunt for the hot summers and also liked that its a heater too.
What's the pros and cons
Incredibly helpful video, thank you for taking the time, new subscriber 😄
Glad it helped!
Excellent & thorough review. Thanks for sharing🌟 Wave is a clear winner for me. l intend to build box on side of tiny house to reduce noise & give full access.. kinda half in, half out & insulate set up... l have to give that more thought 🤔🌻
Well shot video!
I would give 10 👍if I could.
Your video is very informative and well explained with fair comparison.
Thanks a lot, man 👍
Exactly what I needed to know! Time to save up around 5 k for the batteries and air conditioner and solar panel.
Great video
Great review…but no mention that the EcoWave 2 is a heat pump. That is why it can heat and cool a space. This is very important and was not really covered in your review. Deserts can become very cold at night and blistering hot during the day. Also, if you operate in recycle mode (intake comes from the room you are targeting) the unit will work faster. I see no need to suck in outside air. Although the Wave 2 is bigger, the BTUs are too. I use an Anker Powerhouse with the EcoFlow. I can output 120 VAC to Wave for a very fast recharge or DC out if no rush. The double handle is a plus for heavier Wave. In van, I use ceiling exhaust fan for ejecting exhaust air. The Wave also provides a water drain tube but only needed if moving after running a few hours. The Wave mists the moisture from condensation and blows it back into the coils to improve cooling.
@@rileyclarkfineart I bought a diesel heater that is portable for same reason. But, I doubt I will use it now that I have the Wave 2. I prefer to put up a canvas tent if staying a few days. I usually sleep in van but like option of more living space. I like to carry lots of sporting gear for hunting, fishing and photography. I built my van for utility vs cosmetics and convenience. You and your dad do great work. What did you get for this van? I see it was sold.
Aren't they both heat pumps? Can't you just run the Zero Breeze backwards and point the exhaust into the space to heat? Comparing to house AC, the EcoWave 2 would be called a "reverse cycle" AC (at least this is the term in Australia). Of course you won't get thermostat controls running backwards e.g. duty cycle off when temp reached, but it's so portable that it would be super easy to do.
@@rninnessthe ecoflow Wave 2, is a real ac and a real heater, not just heat pumps. Mine should arrive this week.
I dont know anything about the other one. Just watched a ton of excellent video reviews, about the Wave 2 & everyone said the Ecoflow is the only one like it, within this portable category. That justifies the size & weight difference, between these two.
Mark 3 Zero Breeze unit appears to have cooling and heating. It also appears to have same run time despite being more powerful than Mark 2.
Hey, very nice review, especially considering that you purchased them with your own money:) For $100 more on the Eco Flow, you get almost twice the capacity in cooling, along with heating as it really is closer to a heat pump for your home. Also, having a built in solar charge controller means you really don't need to carry an additional power station with you (although the weight of their 400 watt panel is more than your Jackery explorer 1000!!).
great content !
Im gettin the EcoFlow for sure, this in combination with my Jackery 2000 and solar, its an easy choice for my van. Also, in SoCal, its cold and hot, the zero breeze doesnt have a heater function. Peace. Awesome video!!!!
Definitely subscribing! Very professional review. I just got the wave 2 for $909 on amazon prime day. Will be using/testing it in my Four Wheel Camper, powered by bed of F-150 Lightning. I’m sure it will do fine.
I’m looking to do the same in my FWC Hawk. How about an update please?
Also, where did you run out the hoses?
I got the EcoFlow Wave 2 because it has both heat and ac, I'm putting it in my cargo camper I'm putting together. Thanks for the info on both units.
Good luck on the build! I am working on a testing for the heater function for the wave 2. I use a diesel heater system for my van which will be hard for it to beat, but looking forward to seeing how it performs!
Thank you, I think the Wave 2 is a safe way to stay warm or cool @@rileyclarkfineart
Thanks. Best review of Ecoflow Wave 2, believe it or not. Irrespective of whatever that other unit was. 😂
I’m looking for backup cooling AND heating of a single modest size room for emergency use in a grid down situation.
So Wave 2 it is!
Really well done, thank you
Glad you liked it!
I have the Ecowave 2 on the way. I hope to test it while there's still some heat left.
Great review, I went with the ecoflow, got it with a sale from REI. Greetings from LV area as well, cheers!
What did you end up getting it for?
That's awesome! Good luck this camping season!
I love my Zerobreeze. We chose it over the ecoflow exclusively for the power draw. We use it mostly off grid in our 20’ sailboat in the Florida keys. The eco mode cools our cabin nicely, even during our VERY hot, humid summers. It only draws an average of 160w when its working hard. That low draw gives us a few extra nights on the water using only our 3k WH bank.
That's awesome! The power draw on the ZB is definitely a positive. I'm personally looking forward to the mark 3 model they are working on!
Very helpful.
Great video. It would be interesting to see a no name brand comparison to these
The only similar one I can find that is comparable is the bougeRV one. There is no chance it competes against the wave 2 with the btu rating it has, but could maybe hold up in certain circumstances against the ZB. The ZB3 is in the works and trying to get my hands on one for some testing. Let me know what you would like to see tested and I'll see what I can do!
Thanks man. Decision made
Good luck on your adventures!
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The Zero Breeze isn't over priced. Eco Flow is undercutting the price of the Wave 2 because they know you have to buy their power banks if you want to power it with DC power. It's like they're selling a printer for dirt cheap then getting you on ink.
That's not entirely true. Any power bank that delivers 12v pure sign wave power will work. Also, there's a bonus that the Wave gives that the Zero Breeze doesn't. I can also be used as a heater.
@@rapmeister1000so can the zero breeze just use the exhaust hoses there are threads on people doing it
@@neoskater420 below a certain temp, that’s not going to work because there will be no warm air to exhaust. The Wave has a dedicated heating element.
@@rapmeister1000that is nonsense lmao. Wtf is 12v pure sine power ? You do know that dc isn’t a wave at all right ?
@@Jack-ht5zi hahahah 12v pure sine power ahahaha
Thanks for information! I think you should give two points for van cooling...because main reason for buying them is cooling!
@@rileyclarkfineart I have ordered wave 2 without battery but with delta 2 max.Planing to use it in the semi truck. What do you think?
The wave2 can heat too. Nice to have for the cold cold days.
You should compare the Bougerv with the Zero breeze. My bougerv portable did a fantastic job cooling down my 5x8 cargo trailer,but I wouldn’t ask it to cool down a space larger than that. Also the bougerv doesn’t use an external battery bank you simply plug it into a solar generator. The bougerv also puts out 2900 btu compared to the 2300 from Zero breeze. And the bougerv is 999 bux. I think you can use the Zero breeze as a heater by simply hosing out the heater duct,,you can do that with the bougerv
I’m really surprised that the Wave 2 doesn’t have a soft start feature. 63 amps is a lot at start.
It's great to see a comparison between the Zero Breeze Mark 2 and the Wave 2. Many reviews only focus on one product, which doesn't give a fair comparison. I ultimately decided to go with the zero breeze, and it's been working great so far! It's much lighter and more compact, making it super convenient. I can power it with my Jackery power station. Convenience is very important for me. The wave 2 had to be recharged with the whole unit, which was a bit of a hassle. And it is not easy to carry on with that design.
@@rileyclarkfineart Thank you! Much appreciated!
Which jackery unit do you use?
@@lunationship Jackery Sucks, Buy a Bluetti
how many watts is your power bank you're using
Initially leaning towards the wave at first, but I think I’ll end up going with the zero breeze. Do a lot of tent camping and already have a Jackery with solar. Makes camping in humid Florida summers 100x easier.
I will caution you that you better have an insulated tent or at very least get it in the shade. I’m in Texas and I tried out the Wave 2 in a bare tent in the Texas sun and there is no way it could keep up. The ZeroBreeze would have even less of a chance.
@@stacycarr1349 it’s got decent insulation, it’s got a super thick rain fly that takes most the Florida sun, and an inner tent ceiling that stays near ambient.
@@legostarwarsrulezI’m in Louisiana an I use the zero breeze 2 with its battery also paired with the Bluetti AC200P an 4 of the PV200 panels.
An I definitely need to pick up an actual insulated tent. But the few times I did use it with a standard tent. What I did was bring along a few moving blankets. An cut slits in the blanket an threw over the tent. So the clips for the poles could go through it. An had the moving blankets over the tent for some form of insulation. Between the rain fly. An made sure I was u see a tree.
During the day it was fine. Just had to use the hose to blow at us if was in it. But when it got darker. It was comfortable an cool.
But a true insulated tent would of definitely been the way to go an probably would of made a big difference
@@stacycarr1349 I think people should insulate everything in their entire lives. This should be a no-brainer. Everything humanly possible that exists should be insulated. There is no downside to insulation when you are running an air conditioner/keeping warm.
@@AquaTech225 screw an insulated tent, just buy actual reflective/reflectix insulation and put it over the tent, insulated tent will just be prone to mildew or mold if you are buying down and if you are buying polyester insulation it is absolutely horrible compared to air bubble or foam insulation.
Air bubble insulation will be both lighter weight and exponentially more efficient as well as reflect the heat which is a huge part of insulation, considering most tans are a dark color that will heat up incredibly just out of principle
One is portable; one is movable.
I also own both of these. I l’ve been using ZeroBreese Mk II for my over landing trips in small SUV successfully (I have to use the foam cutouts that they provide as part of the box as window inserts). ZB is definitely not doing much in 115F heat in the 144 Sprinter, cuz it is close to 66 sq ft. This is when I had to put it to the test in SLC last summer, trying to work remotely in the van during kids’ soccer camp. I hope Wave 2 will perform better under similar conditions in the van. The battery doesn’t last that long in HP mode. I plan to use it with my EF DeltaPro, but it sucks that I had to purchase more cables and adapters from EF in order for this setup to work. Overall, this is powerful setup, but also the most expensive.
@@rileyclarkfineart SLC last summer was one extreme way to test my ZeroBreeze 😀. Now I know it’s limitations. I have one roof fan in my sprinter, but it is currently suffering from “Maxx Air green light of death” on higher RPMs (an effect of voltage drop due to length of wire). But if I use both ZB MkII vented into the open roof fan and Wave 2 vented into the passenger window with TerraWagen insert - I can potentially beat any heat wave.
In my normal life I tend to gravitate to either the mountains or the coast for camping in the summer and just having one roof fan is enough.
As for solar - that is still in plans (that is why I saved some real estate on the roof by not installing the second roof fan. Now I can fit one 400W industrial grade panel plus couple of skinny ones to each side of the fan.
@@rileyclarkfineart Thanks for getting back! I enjoyed the content! Keep it coming.
I bought a wave 2 last year. Your review seems accurate. I didn’t want to deal with installation of more batteries and a 12 volt rooftop. While I don’t regret the purchase, it really only cools my insulated Promaster about 12 degrees (at night with insulated covers on windows and cab curtained off.). I did buy an extended tube and using that to keep the air blowing directly on me makes it very comfortable. Others have criticized your test for running these units at max, but honestly it just won’t cool on eco mode (unless it is cool outside and you just don’t want to use your fans). I don’t travel that much in hot areas. My workaround is to recharge that battery while driving. But really like almost all RV AC’s, you need AC power because the battery won’t last a full night even on eco mode. It is important to insulate the exhaust tubing! And you are some kind of wizard at setup. That is what I hate..lugging that 40 lbs. from back and up the steps, placing the window plate and dealing with the hoses. On my best day it is 7 minutes. If/when I need a next van, I will look into a 12 volt rooftop or mini split with a bigger battery bank.
I have 2 fans on my rig, and honestly 95% of situations I find myself in running those on a circulation mode with the windows cracked can get the space very comfy. I live in the desert, so my van is designed to get me away from the 120 degree heat. Anything 90ish and below my fans do the job. But like you said, this unit is great for taking the edge off by having cold air blow directly on you. There are certainly tons of great and affordable roof top solutions now which make something like this obsolete moving forward....if you absolutely need ac
Thanks for this review...i have decided to get the Zero Mark 2 because of portability and I am able to use my Jackery 1000E with it and the Mark2 consumes only 240bwatts. Who the heck wants to lug around 60lbs for the Eco2 that consumed wayyyy more watts. No brainer here. Your video showed the van temperature dropped to 72 degree in 95 degree using the Mark2 heat is wonderful. I have a sedan so that's gonna dropped it down to 67 to 68 degree in 100 degree heat!
The eco2 is heavier but almost double the cooling capacity and the ability to heat also I’ll carry the extra weight
The problem is that everyone is comparing them. One is 2300 btu, other 5000+. Both are movable, both are battery powered, same thing. Its like comparing a 5000 btu window ac to a 10,000 btu window ac and saying the 10,000 is better because it cools my house in 105deg weather better. Well, ya, it will. Great review, the comments are the fun part. PS, zero breeze is working on a slightly larger, but still under 20lb 5,000 btu model with heat.
Thanks for video, it helps in making a call! Side note does charging with solar while running appliances ruin the battery?
Great comparison! What kind of tent is shown in this video? It looks bad ass!
Terrific comparison. I am looking for a small sailboat (25’) A/C and dehumidification system for at the dock and at anchor. Thanks for the information.
I understand that this is an AC vs review but I think given the price point of each, the Wave 2 can also be used as a heater, which eliminates another space taking device and/or removing the whole diesel/gas heater you would have to have otherwise. I realize this would apply more to a Van lifer in most cases but I feel like it should be mentioned. Regardless I really appreciate your AC battle , keep up the good work! Thanks!
Yes, a heating element is a nice little bonus but it’s so absolutely wasteful, but I don’t really see a use for it… as always the best heating solution is more insulation in whatever place you are staying at and even better, warmer clothes? If you have to be some super bougie high class rich guy, then I guess you could just run a propane heater with a Mr. buddy it’s a lot more efficient and a lot less annoying than having to power 1500 watt heating element to get subpar/mediocre heating.
The heating function is kind of a novelty/gimmick. This is a very efficient, portable solution, but not some insanely thirsty thing you have to run off a generator, there are better solutions for that that provide more heat/more cold.
I guess I just find it kind of strange how people are trying to live a simpler/more efficient lifestyle where they don’t blow as much money/time, but then they try to spend as much money as they can, when they are living a simpler lifestyle, which one is it?
@@rileyclarkfineart I would recommend the smallest Mr. buddy you can find it and a 20 pound propane tank I had a regular Mr. buddy in my 31 foot rig, on the lowest setting, it would make me sweat in 0° weather and a 20 pound tank would last me like 1-2 weeks running 12 hr a day, it’s a miracle o.o I did this for several years and was always surprised a little the cost was to heat the entire rig. It cost me like 60 bucks of propane a month. For your little van, I would recommend the smallest little buddy you can because the bigger ones are actually a little bit too hot even on the lowest setting, and I can also verify that they are very very safe. I have slept with them on accident turned on with the windows completely shut and I woke up feeling fine Although I wouldn’t recommend it at all!
@@ZxAMobile Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the EcoWave has a traditional heating element. It uses the same principle when cooling to heat, just in reverse. When cooling it's acting as an Air Conditioner when heating it's acting as a heat pump. The energy usage to heat would be roughly the same at cooling.
@@rninness that would be incredible however I find it hard to see how it would create that heat in a very cold environment the heat pump simply pulls hot air that is already in the environment out of the environment if you don't have hot air to begin with where is it pulling it out of and if it is not pulling it from anywhere it would have to generate it and generating heat with electricity is extremely resource-intensive and there is no way to efficiently do it
@@ZxAMobile You put in 1000 watt and get out 4000 watt in heat. (A very simple explanation. Less effective when its below freezing.)
Really really nice job man. I've been in a Sprinter van for years and you answered it all for me. However; do you think if it hit 100+ degree weather, the eco flow would be able to keep up with a 75 degree setting? I only say this because my van is professionally insulated, all the windows have professionally made insulated covers, a roof top fan and a 3000W Goal Zero battery for power. Thanks again!
Thankyou for this unbiased test. Your time, efforts and use based opinions are invaluable. I think it's good these 2 companies have launched their products. Though it seems neither is absolutely a perfect solution for cooling needs in this concerning increase of temperatures globally. They Hopefully have created a push for more manufacturer's R&D to design and create even better options soon. "Hopefully" Bluetti is hard at work chasing this trend and creating their own version of a AC that will compete. I think the area needing to be cooled is critical in getting the most effective and efficient use of these types of units. Whether it's a car you camp in, a minivan, a teardrop, or a large sprinter van, if you can partition off a smaller area to reduce the size of the space needing to be cooled, the unit should show more/easier cooling power. Even something like a blanket attached to the roof and walls isolating your sleeping area in a minivan and cooling just that "smaller" space while sleeping has to work better than trying to cool the whole vehicle. Also, if you don't insulate the walls and ceiling of the vehicle, it's even more difficult to achieve effective cooling in warmer temperatures. Thanks again for this segment.
You missed the best feature of the wave 2 by not measuring the power draw in DC mode which cuts the power draw in half with the same performance as 110 AC power. You can run this 24/7 with a 400 watt panel for free
Thanks Brother i dont have to watch it now!!!
Takes 25 minutes for him to finally get to the point. I can’t subscribe to the nonsense.
I don't even have a battery. 400 amp batteries and 500 Solar. Seal off bed in Transit and it's very nice. Other unit to big for me
Expensive toys.....for RVers, getting an off-brand 2000w Inverter generator and a portable 5000 BTU AC unit "on wheels" is a much better value, has much more flexibility for home use during a power outage etc and will last for years...while these delicate toys will age quickly and require replacement batteries...if they are still in business in the next couple of years.
What ones do you use for your set up?
@@Trainwhrek Tacklife 2200w Inv/Gen and a SoleUSair 5000 BTU portable AC unit. Bought them as Refurbs about 3 years ago...total cost including power strips and extension cords: $800. The best part is they are small and light enough to place almost anywhere. There are more (even better) options available today. Anyway, lots of use here in Hurricane Florida. During power-outs, I used the Genny during the day to run my Chest Freezer, room fans, TV, iPad and phone chargers .... then switch to the A/C at night for comfortable sleep...wash-rinse-repeat for about a week of continuous use. Both are still in perfect working order...waiting for this years "events".
@@goobfilmcast4239 How many watts does the soleusair use?
2000 Watts will run a regular 5000 BTU air conditioner for 4 hours. I know. I've tested it with Madea, frigidaire, and other brands. A portable 5000 BTU air conditioner would run Less Than 3 hours because it's using 800 watts per hour.
These tiny units are very expensive but the ecoflow is alleged to only use 200 to 300 watts on average with startup surge of 500.
@@macmcleod1188 Gotcha... Thanks! Really didn't wanna shell out a grand for an ac/heater that only works at above 40°. But it's looking that way. I found a refurbished one (with battery) for $999 on their ebay site. But the size/weight and efficiency can't seem to be beat here. I kinda have a feeling having to heat myself won't really be problem going forward, but let's see. Edit... Oh damn they have it for 899 for the holiday!!
My ecoflow puts out about 65° in 106-degree weather also do not use the large vent in the tent setup so you can recirculate the cold air and the unit will work a lot more efficient.
Thanks for the video. I am looking for a cooling system for a box truck. I can not attach solar panels nor do I have space for a power supply. I have essentially norrowed it down to the two units you reviews. My concerns are: do the units have the capabilities to cool enclosed spaces in Florida heat? Do the batteries last a full 8 hours? Can I use the units on as a needed basis to blow cool air on me when I work without regards to keeping the space cool for extended periods. I work in 30 minute intervals in the back of my box truck and really wouldnt need the unit running in between work stops. The heating part of the eco isn't a positive or a negative for me.
I ended up going with the zero breeze 2. If you know how to work with its 2300btu limitations.
An for like a tent. Either insulate it the best you can. I did with 3 moving blankets between the tent and rain fly. An under a shaded area. It did decent. Later in the evening an night. It got good comfortable an cool. I’m the good Louisiana heat/humidity.
I have it with the battery pack. But also pair it together with the Bluetti AC200P and 4 of their PV200 solar panels. With 50’ of solar panel extension cords. To be able to keep the solar generator in the tent to stay cool, while having enough cord to be able to have the panels anywhere needed for the sun.
An I want to say the battery for the zero breeze is 750 or what Wh.
An the Bluetti AC200P is 2,000Wh.
So between the two. I can basically run it on high the entire night an even with the solar panels say bringing in even 500watts of solar. I’m still bringing enough in to run the AC if needed. An still build up the battery bank some. Vs had I went with the Wave 2 it would have to stay in eco mode. An still burn more juice. An being in less from the panels due to what it consumes.
So the breeze works great if you know it’s limitations. An capitalize on what it can do.
It’s easier on the power. An still does wonders getting keeping it cool.
Without dumping a lot more money into it all. I wouldn’t be able to keep up with the Wave 2’s consumption an would have a lot more downtime without air in more cloudy days.
I do like the wave 2 though for its extra btu’s. Just not willing for the moment to drop a bunch more dough into for now since this setup has been working fantastic
The Wave 2 has a design flaw in that all of the condensate is not collected in the tank. Every time I tested my unit significant amounts of water would leak from the bottom of unit once I moved it. Not good in a van. I returned it.
I would hope that of the two back vents one is an intake and the other an exhaust so the units aren’t cooling the condensers with cool air they just used energy to cool rather than using the temperature differential between the condenser and the outside air.
I am considering the ecoflow for inside my 7x16 enclosed trailer that i use for contracting jobs. i am between that and installing a full mini split system. do you think while running off of its solar panel, that the ecoflow would keep the inside of the trailer cooled down during lets say an 8 hour day on eco mode? if it was in the high 80s or low 90s, living in pennsylvania which is usually fairly humid
I have the unit, but I'm confused by the locking ring system. I can't find a window mounting plate that works with that lock ring. I notice you have something that seems to work on your van. Are you able to tell me what that is, and any recommendation for a window plate that works with the locking ring? I can't find anything on Amazon or in big box stores. Thanks.
Can you use the ZeroBreeze for heat if you use the exhaust port instead of the cooling supply?
Hi Riley, great video! Thank you!! From where I am from the Zero Breeze MarkII costs $1,199 ($799 USD) and the EcoFlow Wave 2 costs $1979 ($1314 USD) both without batteries, in March 2024. One question though. As I've already got house batteries can I use the house batteries to power these units? Thanks
I’m using the wave2 in a studio apartment it works well
It's keeps your apartment cool? So you know the temp it gets to?
I didn't realize it until I made the comparison, but man, the Wave 2 is way bigger than the Mark 2! Personally, I think the Mark 2 is more portable and better suited for my camping tent. Plus, it's got this super cool, unique look that I'm really diggin'!
im getting wave 2 just because of the heater function which i need for my remote shed.
I think the reaspm that the Wave 2 did not push 65° air in your tent test is because it generally pushes way more air volume than the ZBM2 .
More air pushed means more power needed to cool to 65° , but that also means that "more cool air" gets delivered to your tent overall.
It would have been an interesting point of info , if you for example took some temperature readings with a thermometer from different corners of the tent after X amount of time
I would agree, I have a Wave 2 and have been trying it in different scenarios. Putting it on “Max” setting actually causes the air volume to go up but it does increase the output temperature as well. If you only want to focus on the coldest output temperature, don’t use the Max setting.
I was going to guess that the reason it wasn’t cooling to 65 with the unit outside the tent was because of the darker color air hose retaining heat from the sun and warming air as it travels into the tent. This compared to the white tube of the other one might make a slight difference. It seemed to cool to 65 just fine when moved inside.
@@KorraTheFrenchie The temperature sensor is on the outlet of the machine, so before the hose. Yes, a darker hose might absorb more energy from the sun shining on it, but I would guess that this effect would be negligible. Also would not change the temperature the sensor at the outlet sees.
And cooling down to 65 inside the tent also makes perfect sense, because there it is recirculating the cooled down air further and further as time goes on. Outside it uses warm, outside air, cools it down and pushes it inside. Here, the volume of air moved is important. The slower the fan goes, the "cooler" the air will be that gets pushed because it gets more time to cool down inside the evaporator of the AC unit. But also less air volume will arrive inside the tent, so potentially less cooling effect overall
In the tent, it uses already cooled-down air and cools it down even further.
I do believe you can charge with the smart generator dc plug as well. its the same connector, so I don't see why not
Thank you, but this thing about setting up hoses/tubes, I would rather just set up some portable fans.
Will it work in a semi truck in 110F
Can you use any battery and solar panel with the Eccoflow Wave? If not, minus 5 points. Please factor in versatility as well.
Question: If you have to keep the Eco Wave 2 and the battery hooked together while charging, can you use a Jackary 1000 plugged into it, and use the air conditioner at the same time? Another words, rather than buying an external Delta 2 max, can I just use the wave 2 battery pack and my Jackary together to power the Eco Wave 2 at the same time?
The Wave 2 should get an extra point because it's also a heater. And if you are already part of the EcoFlow user base (ie own a solar generator) keeping it charged may not be an issue.
How is the moisture vented? Via the exhaust hoses?
nice comparison, thanks, wonder how the Zero breeze mark3 will do. I think it will do heat too. Its not out yet. Cheers,
I'm interested in seeing it too! The mark 2 does heat...but not really IMO. The Mark 3 needs to add it in or the price point needs to shift if they are to compete with wave moving forward.
awesome comparison. I would go for the Ecoflow it has an additional benefit of providing heat while zero breeze doesn't. So it has one more extra con. It would be nice if it would smaller profile, doesn't help 58 yo lugging it around with bad fingers, but just to try to survive texas weather without my ac no way in he&&, LOL I saw this UA-cam of this guy he is modifying his Sylvansport Go with an EcoFlow Wave 2. I'm gonna do that just trying to decide which hole to make the place cover or the replace tent. LOL
Does the Zero Breeze heat as well? If it doesn't then I think the Zero would be half the machine that the Wave 2 is. When you can heat and cool you have much more utility. Also did you buy the battery with the Wave 2? I hear that it uses less when it's directly DC as opposed to using your Jackery's AC outlet which would be less efficient. Otherwise a fine review and thx for the real world tent testing. Both seem like good products.
@@rileyclarkfineart Good to know.👍
Great demonstration. I’m looking for a solution for my truck camper. I’d prefer not to run my propane powered generator because of the noise factor. It will run my 1,100 watt ac unit… but the noise is loud enough that I can only sleep with ear plugs. Not a good solution.
I'd say that "power bank" is more accurate than "solar generator" considering it's a portable battery and doesn't actually generate electricity.
Eco Flow also states it can be a heater..that could be the differentiator for me.
The Wave 2 cannot cool a van in 90° weather with high humidity. It struggled to push out air that was cooler than 72° even when set at 60°. It sapped my Goal Zero Yeti 3000 I under 3 hours trying to cool my van, which in the end it really didn’t much at all.
Not mentioned is that the Zero Breeze runs on 24V. So the snapshot of your Victron app when connected to your van battery bank was representative of what? It was either inverted using an AC cord OR you used a 12v to 24v DC converter. I'm interested to know which one. Thanks.
@@rileyclarkfineart Since that was inverted, that is a low power draw! Thanks.
Can you Daisey Chain multiple Batteries on the Wave 2?
Merci
Great video as always. Always put a smile on my face. Gotta say, I’ve been using the Bluetti ac200max for over a year now. Does all the things you mentioned, plus has lithium phosphate batteries. My entire van runs from the 30 amp socket, and use the 24 for the induction hob. I have 440 of Renogy bifacial solar panels. It’s only £1499 right now. Perfect
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This was a great review. Can the wave 2 be charged on solar?
@@rileyclarkfineart ok thank you 👍
So you are saying it cooled the tent but not the van how does that work
The price is now higher than your video suggests for the eco flow with a battery pack.
So I'm wondering more about the Wave 2 and its ability to heat also because you did mention that it does but did nothing to show how well it does it? Considering it as a potential minor heat source rather than building a complete heating system because I don't want to Winter camp but may need to pull the chill out now and then with traveling in our pop-up truck camper???
I tested the heater function this winter in a tent, and it did an OK job. I'm used to using my diesel heater, and I personally find myself in cooler climates camping more than in warmer weather. That diesel heater is AMAZING and I personally wont be switching so I didn't do much more testing with the wave 2. I imagine in an insulated structure it will perform much better though. The canvas tent I used in this video was the same one I tested the heater this winter with in about 36 degree weather. For what you are needing, it wouldn't hurt that's for sure!
@@rileyclarkfineart So you think it would be good for a pop up truck topper, like an overland camper, or I should move towards a more dedicated heater like yours? Purchasing a TUNE M1 Camper/topper. Thanks!!! John
The only thing I would add is that leaving these extremely expensive pieces of equipment outside the tent may draw thieves. Good grief, you anything worth $20 or more left outside is free game in Flour Bluff no matter what you do. Sad to say. Thank you for your very informative post.
I don’t really understand why everyone keeps comparing a 2300 BTU compact portable system to a 5000 BTU portable system. They’re two completely separate classes that just happen to crossover.
Still.. this was a good overall video with some useful info.
@@rileyclarkfineart that kind of understandable.. but it’s also like saying since a Bentley and Porsche Turbo S are the same price let’s see which one is faster around this track. They may be the same price, but they are targeted at different people.
However, like I said, I still really enjoyed the video because everyone’s video seems to bring up one more point that someone else forgot.. gotta watch em all. lol
ZB will be my pick tho. No way am I luging that 50lb EF up to my RTT