Great review…but no mention that the EcoWave 2 is a heat pump. That is why it can heat and cool a space. This is very important and was not really covered in your review. Deserts can become very cold at night and blistering hot during the day. Also, if you operate in recycle mode (intake comes from the room you are targeting) the unit will work faster. I see no need to suck in outside air. Although the Wave 2 is bigger, the BTUs are too. I use an Anker Powerhouse with the EcoFlow. I can output 120 VAC to Wave for a very fast recharge or DC out if no rush. The double handle is a plus for heavier Wave. In van, I use ceiling exhaust fan for ejecting exhaust air. The Wave also provides a water drain tube but only needed if moving after running a few hours. The Wave mists the moisture from condensation and blows it back into the coils to improve cooling.
@@rileyclarkfineart I bought a diesel heater that is portable for same reason. But, I doubt I will use it now that I have the Wave 2. I prefer to put up a canvas tent if staying a few days. I usually sleep in van but like option of more living space. I like to carry lots of sporting gear for hunting, fishing and photography. I built my van for utility vs cosmetics and convenience. You and your dad do great work. What did you get for this van? I see it was sold.
Aren't they both heat pumps? Can't you just run the Zero Breeze backwards and point the exhaust into the space to heat? Comparing to house AC, the EcoWave 2 would be called a "reverse cycle" AC (at least this is the term in Australia). Of course you won't get thermostat controls running backwards e.g. duty cycle off when temp reached, but it's so portable that it would be super easy to do.
@@rninnessthe ecoflow Wave 2, is a real ac and a real heater, not just heat pumps. Mine should arrive this week. I dont know anything about the other one. Just watched a ton of excellent video reviews, about the Wave 2 & everyone said the Ecoflow is the only one like it, within this portable category. That justifies the size & weight difference, between these two.
I have the Wave 2 and haven't used the heater yet, as I got it this spring. I use it in my bedroom at home and run just the exhaust hose and drain hose out the window. Like you said, no sense in sucking in outside air. I did notice the exhaust hose gets hot, so I slipped a knitted tube on it. I do like the little remote.
@@emerson00745 huh….. the product works great for about 10min then the ice melts and it doesn’t cool. And that’s expected but didn’t think it would be so quick…
@ahahahahahaahah) In the beginning of the video he claims he bought both of them, by purchasing them that implies he did not get them for free and therfore his review would be non biased. Maybe since you didn't watch the video you were confused.
The Zero Breeze isn't over priced. Eco Flow is undercutting the price of the Wave 2 because they know you have to buy their power banks if you want to power it with DC power. It's like they're selling a printer for dirt cheap then getting you on ink.
That's not entirely true. Any power bank that delivers 12v pure sign wave power will work. Also, there's a bonus that the Wave gives that the Zero Breeze doesn't. I can also be used as a heater.
Well thought out and nicely done comparison. I also appreciate the fact that you made us aware that you did purchase both units. You just earned another subscriber‼️😉😎
You missed the best feature of the wave 2 by not measuring the power draw in DC mode which cuts the power draw in half with the same performance as 110 AC power. You can run this 24/7 with a 400 watt panel for free
Awesome review, thanks. Just bought the Wave 2 and battery. Were in Australia so needed a bit extra grunt for the hot summers and also liked that its a heater too.
This comparison really helped me inch toward a decision. Thank you for breaking things down in your tests, and breaking down who they would be best for. Really lays things out for the spectrum of outdoor needs, comfort, and setups. Just subscribed!
Hey, very nice review, especially considering that you purchased them with your own money:) For $100 more on the Eco Flow, you get almost twice the capacity in cooling, along with heating as it really is closer to a heat pump for your home. Also, having a built in solar charge controller means you really don't need to carry an additional power station with you (although the weight of their 400 watt panel is more than your Jackery explorer 1000!!).
The problem is that everyone is comparing them. One is 2300 btu, other 5000+. Both are movable, both are battery powered, same thing. Its like comparing a 5000 btu window ac to a 10,000 btu window ac and saying the 10,000 is better because it cools my house in 105deg weather better. Well, ya, it will. Great review, the comments are the fun part. PS, zero breeze is working on a slightly larger, but still under 20lb 5,000 btu model with heat.
I understand that this is an AC vs review but I think given the price point of each, the Wave 2 can also be used as a heater, which eliminates another space taking device and/or removing the whole diesel/gas heater you would have to have otherwise. I realize this would apply more to a Van lifer in most cases but I feel like it should be mentioned. Regardless I really appreciate your AC battle , keep up the good work! Thanks!
Yes, a heating element is a nice little bonus but it’s so absolutely wasteful, but I don’t really see a use for it… as always the best heating solution is more insulation in whatever place you are staying at and even better, warmer clothes? If you have to be some super bougie high class rich guy, then I guess you could just run a propane heater with a Mr. buddy it’s a lot more efficient and a lot less annoying than having to power 1500 watt heating element to get subpar/mediocre heating. The heating function is kind of a novelty/gimmick. This is a very efficient, portable solution, but not some insanely thirsty thing you have to run off a generator, there are better solutions for that that provide more heat/more cold. I guess I just find it kind of strange how people are trying to live a simpler/more efficient lifestyle where they don’t blow as much money/time, but then they try to spend as much money as they can, when they are living a simpler lifestyle, which one is it?
@@rileyclarkfineart I would recommend the smallest Mr. buddy you can find it and a 20 pound propane tank I had a regular Mr. buddy in my 31 foot rig, on the lowest setting, it would make me sweat in 0° weather and a 20 pound tank would last me like 1-2 weeks running 12 hr a day, it’s a miracle o.o I did this for several years and was always surprised a little the cost was to heat the entire rig. It cost me like 60 bucks of propane a month. For your little van, I would recommend the smallest little buddy you can because the bigger ones are actually a little bit too hot even on the lowest setting, and I can also verify that they are very very safe. I have slept with them on accident turned on with the windows completely shut and I woke up feeling fine Although I wouldn’t recommend it at all!
@@ZxAMobile Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the EcoWave has a traditional heating element. It uses the same principle when cooling to heat, just in reverse. When cooling it's acting as an Air Conditioner when heating it's acting as a heat pump. The energy usage to heat would be roughly the same at cooling.
@@rninness that would be incredible however I find it hard to see how it would create that heat in a very cold environment the heat pump simply pulls hot air that is already in the environment out of the environment if you don't have hot air to begin with where is it pulling it out of and if it is not pulling it from anywhere it would have to generate it and generating heat with electricity is extremely resource-intensive and there is no way to efficiently do it
We have the Wave 2. We just got back from a trip through southern California, Vegas, Zion a Tahoe. Temps were around 110-116 w a few days at 118F. Way too hot for us. Van is insulated (roof, sides). Used Vanmade Gear window covers. We found the Wave 2 could never really cool the inside of the van as it couldn’t take the hot air out fast enough. Also, like a heat pump, it collects and sends the hot air out. However, the hoses they provide, radiate so much heat which just contributes to the existing heat in the van. Think these units work best in mild climates (mid to high 60s - low 80s). Were now looking at the cruise n comfort units.
I think I'll just stick to my key fob turning my SUV on for 15 minutes when I get hot. Then turn it off when it gets really cool inside. That seems to work very well for me. Im a good sleeper and a quick 15 min wake up is ok with me to stay cool the rest of my night. So before I go to bed, I drive around blasting the rear a/c on. Then set up my Ryobi fan aiming upwards to provide air flow. If I get too hot I wake up and turn on my car with my keyfob. When its cool again. I turn the car off and Im off to DREAMLAND again.
Good luck on the build! I am working on a testing for the heater function for the wave 2. I use a diesel heater system for my van which will be hard for it to beat, but looking forward to seeing how it performs!
Excellent & thorough review. Thanks for sharing🌟 Wave is a clear winner for me. l intend to build box on side of tiny house to reduce noise & give full access.. kinda half in, half out & insulate set up... l have to give that more thought 🤔🌻
I love my Zerobreeze. We chose it over the ecoflow exclusively for the power draw. We use it mostly off grid in our 20’ sailboat in the Florida keys. The eco mode cools our cabin nicely, even during our VERY hot, humid summers. It only draws an average of 160w when its working hard. That low draw gives us a few extra nights on the water using only our 3k WH bank.
You should compare the Bougerv with the Zero breeze. My bougerv portable did a fantastic job cooling down my 5x8 cargo trailer,but I wouldn’t ask it to cool down a space larger than that. Also the bougerv doesn’t use an external battery bank you simply plug it into a solar generator. The bougerv also puts out 2900 btu compared to the 2300 from Zero breeze. And the bougerv is 999 bux. I think you can use the Zero breeze as a heater by simply hosing out the heater duct,,you can do that with the bougerv
One advantage for the ecoflow is you can use the battery with a Delta 2 for example. So when adding a Delta 2 additional 1kWh of battery cost more than the 1.1kWh battery of the Wave 2, and you can use the Delta 2 to charge AND power the Wave2, it all come out to be a great combo... (I think anyway), but they are still really expensive for much low power units.
Definitely subscribing! Very professional review. I just got the wave 2 for $909 on amazon prime day. Will be using/testing it in my Four Wheel Camper, powered by bed of F-150 Lightning. I’m sure it will do fine.
It's great to see a comparison between the Zero Breeze Mark 2 and the Wave 2. Many reviews only focus on one product, which doesn't give a fair comparison. I ultimately decided to go with the zero breeze, and it's been working great so far! It's much lighter and more compact, making it super convenient. I can power it with my Jackery power station. Convenience is very important for me. The wave 2 had to be recharged with the whole unit, which was a bit of a hassle. And it is not easy to carry on with that design.
The Wave 2 has a design flaw in that all of the condensate is not collected in the tank. Every time I tested my unit significant amounts of water would leak from the bottom of unit once I moved it. Not good in a van. I returned it.
Im gettin the EcoFlow for sure, this in combination with my Jackery 2000 and solar, its an easy choice for my van. Also, in SoCal, its cold and hot, the zero breeze doesnt have a heater function. Peace. Awesome video!!!!
I think the reaspm that the Wave 2 did not push 65° air in your tent test is because it generally pushes way more air volume than the ZBM2 . More air pushed means more power needed to cool to 65° , but that also means that "more cool air" gets delivered to your tent overall. It would have been an interesting point of info , if you for example took some temperature readings with a thermometer from different corners of the tent after X amount of time
I would agree, I have a Wave 2 and have been trying it in different scenarios. Putting it on “Max” setting actually causes the air volume to go up but it does increase the output temperature as well. If you only want to focus on the coldest output temperature, don’t use the Max setting.
I was going to guess that the reason it wasn’t cooling to 65 with the unit outside the tent was because of the darker color air hose retaining heat from the sun and warming air as it travels into the tent. This compared to the white tube of the other one might make a slight difference. It seemed to cool to 65 just fine when moved inside.
@@KorraTheFrenchie The temperature sensor is on the outlet of the machine, so before the hose. Yes, a darker hose might absorb more energy from the sun shining on it, but I would guess that this effect would be negligible. Also would not change the temperature the sensor at the outlet sees. And cooling down to 65 inside the tent also makes perfect sense, because there it is recirculating the cooled down air further and further as time goes on. Outside it uses warm, outside air, cools it down and pushes it inside. Here, the volume of air moved is important. The slower the fan goes, the "cooler" the air will be that gets pushed because it gets more time to cool down inside the evaporator of the AC unit. But also less air volume will arrive inside the tent, so potentially less cooling effect overall In the tent, it uses already cooled-down air and cools it down even further.
Thanks. Best review of Ecoflow Wave 2, believe it or not. Irrespective of whatever that other unit was. 😂 I’m looking for backup cooling AND heating of a single modest size room for emergency use in a grid down situation. So Wave 2 it is!
I bought a wave 2 last year. Your review seems accurate. I didn’t want to deal with installation of more batteries and a 12 volt rooftop. While I don’t regret the purchase, it really only cools my insulated Promaster about 12 degrees (at night with insulated covers on windows and cab curtained off.). I did buy an extended tube and using that to keep the air blowing directly on me makes it very comfortable. Others have criticized your test for running these units at max, but honestly it just won’t cool on eco mode (unless it is cool outside and you just don’t want to use your fans). I don’t travel that much in hot areas. My workaround is to recharge that battery while driving. But really like almost all RV AC’s, you need AC power because the battery won’t last a full night even on eco mode. It is important to insulate the exhaust tubing! And you are some kind of wizard at setup. That is what I hate..lugging that 40 lbs. from back and up the steps, placing the window plate and dealing with the hoses. On my best day it is 7 minutes. If/when I need a next van, I will look into a 12 volt rooftop or mini split with a bigger battery bank.
I have 2 fans on my rig, and honestly 95% of situations I find myself in running those on a circulation mode with the windows cracked can get the space very comfy. I live in the desert, so my van is designed to get me away from the 120 degree heat. Anything 90ish and below my fans do the job. But like you said, this unit is great for taking the edge off by having cold air blow directly on you. There are certainly tons of great and affordable roof top solutions now which make something like this obsolete moving forward....if you absolutely need ac
Initially leaning towards the wave at first, but I think I’ll end up going with the zero breeze. Do a lot of tent camping and already have a Jackery with solar. Makes camping in humid Florida summers 100x easier.
I will caution you that you better have an insulated tent or at very least get it in the shade. I’m in Texas and I tried out the Wave 2 in a bare tent in the Texas sun and there is no way it could keep up. The ZeroBreeze would have even less of a chance.
@@stacycarr1349 it’s got decent insulation, it’s got a super thick rain fly that takes most the Florida sun, and an inner tent ceiling that stays near ambient.
@@legostarwarsrulezI’m in Louisiana an I use the zero breeze 2 with its battery also paired with the Bluetti AC200P an 4 of the PV200 panels. An I definitely need to pick up an actual insulated tent. But the few times I did use it with a standard tent. What I did was bring along a few moving blankets. An cut slits in the blanket an threw over the tent. So the clips for the poles could go through it. An had the moving blankets over the tent for some form of insulation. Between the rain fly. An made sure I was u see a tree. During the day it was fine. Just had to use the hose to blow at us if was in it. But when it got darker. It was comfortable an cool. But a true insulated tent would of definitely been the way to go an probably would of made a big difference
@@stacycarr1349 I think people should insulate everything in their entire lives. This should be a no-brainer. Everything humanly possible that exists should be insulated. There is no downside to insulation when you are running an air conditioner/keeping warm.
@@AquaTech225 screw an insulated tent, just buy actual reflective/reflectix insulation and put it over the tent, insulated tent will just be prone to mildew or mold if you are buying down and if you are buying polyester insulation it is absolutely horrible compared to air bubble or foam insulation. Air bubble insulation will be both lighter weight and exponentially more efficient as well as reflect the heat which is a huge part of insulation, considering most tans are a dark color that will heat up incredibly just out of principle
I guess this is like comparing a small power station to a beast of a power station. I pick the more powerful product that also has self evap tech with more than double the btu's. Oh and the heater is a great bonus. I pick the Wave 2. This will also come in handy at home during a power outage.
The EcoFlow is a heat pump. Just like most houses have. Mine has been at my buddy’s house since his AC went out. Wave 2 got his room which is about 400sqft from 97 to 81 during the day. And it gets it down in the 60s at night.
I also own both of these. I l’ve been using ZeroBreese Mk II for my over landing trips in small SUV successfully (I have to use the foam cutouts that they provide as part of the box as window inserts). ZB is definitely not doing much in 115F heat in the 144 Sprinter, cuz it is close to 66 sq ft. This is when I had to put it to the test in SLC last summer, trying to work remotely in the van during kids’ soccer camp. I hope Wave 2 will perform better under similar conditions in the van. The battery doesn’t last that long in HP mode. I plan to use it with my EF DeltaPro, but it sucks that I had to purchase more cables and adapters from EF in order for this setup to work. Overall, this is powerful setup, but also the most expensive.
@@rileyclarkfineart SLC last summer was one extreme way to test my ZeroBreeze 😀. Now I know it’s limitations. I have one roof fan in my sprinter, but it is currently suffering from “Maxx Air green light of death” on higher RPMs (an effect of voltage drop due to length of wire). But if I use both ZB MkII vented into the open roof fan and Wave 2 vented into the passenger window with TerraWagen insert - I can potentially beat any heat wave. In my normal life I tend to gravitate to either the mountains or the coast for camping in the summer and just having one roof fan is enough. As for solar - that is still in plans (that is why I saved some real estate on the roof by not installing the second roof fan. Now I can fit one 400W industrial grade panel plus couple of skinny ones to each side of the fan.
Thanks for this review...i have decided to get the Zero Mark 2 because of portability and I am able to use my Jackery 1000E with it and the Mark2 consumes only 240bwatts. Who the heck wants to lug around 60lbs for the Eco2 that consumed wayyyy more watts. No brainer here. Your video showed the van temperature dropped to 72 degree in 95 degree using the Mark2 heat is wonderful. I have a sedan so that's gonna dropped it down to 67 to 68 degree in 100 degree heat!
I just watched this video and was thinking the same thing. I don't understand why someone would be pulling intake from the outside (hot) air instead of recycling the cooling air inside the van, camper, trailer, etc.... I assume if you have a short distance for the exhaust hose so as to not have it as a heat vessel inside of the van and you are circulating the cooling air in the vehicle, things should work well....or at least better????
The EcoFlow Wave 2 battery can be charged independently from an EcoFlow power bank. So, conceivably you could buy an extra battery and run it while charging the other one if you have an EcoFlow power bank.
My ecoflow puts out about 65° in 106-degree weather also do not use the large vent in the tent setup so you can recirculate the cold air and the unit will work a lot more efficient.
The only similar one I can find that is comparable is the bougeRV one. There is no chance it competes against the wave 2 with the btu rating it has, but could maybe hold up in certain circumstances against the ZB. The ZB3 is in the works and trying to get my hands on one for some testing. Let me know what you would like to see tested and I'll see what I can do!
Does the Zero Breeze heat as well? If it doesn't then I think the Zero would be half the machine that the Wave 2 is. When you can heat and cool you have much more utility. Also did you buy the battery with the Wave 2? I hear that it uses less when it's directly DC as opposed to using your Jackery's AC outlet which would be less efficient. Otherwise a fine review and thx for the real world tent testing. Both seem like good products.
you would greatly improve your cooling in the van if you insulated the exhaust pipes. or bring them closer to the window. this is the downside to portable units. the exhaust pipes increase the temp within the space it serves. try wrapping a towel around the exhaust pipe see how much better it will get. also the tent set up i would hope you had your screens closed. the b roll you shot shows the screen covers off allowing hot air to enter and cool air to leave. i appreciate the effort you put into this video and its quite informative. it helps make my decision. im an ecoflow nut. i own (3) 2000w power inverters so expanding on their systems seems logical but damm soooooooo expensive.
I ended up going with the zero breeze 2. If you know how to work with its 2300btu limitations. An for like a tent. Either insulate it the best you can. I did with 3 moving blankets between the tent and rain fly. An under a shaded area. It did decent. Later in the evening an night. It got good comfortable an cool. I’m the good Louisiana heat/humidity. I have it with the battery pack. But also pair it together with the Bluetti AC200P and 4 of their PV200 solar panels. With 50’ of solar panel extension cords. To be able to keep the solar generator in the tent to stay cool, while having enough cord to be able to have the panels anywhere needed for the sun. An I want to say the battery for the zero breeze is 750 or what Wh. An the Bluetti AC200P is 2,000Wh. So between the two. I can basically run it on high the entire night an even with the solar panels say bringing in even 500watts of solar. I’m still bringing enough in to run the AC if needed. An still build up the battery bank some. Vs had I went with the Wave 2 it would have to stay in eco mode. An still burn more juice. An being in less from the panels due to what it consumes. So the breeze works great if you know it’s limitations. An capitalize on what it can do. It’s easier on the power. An still does wonders getting keeping it cool. Without dumping a lot more money into it all. I wouldn’t be able to keep up with the Wave 2’s consumption an would have a lot more downtime without air in more cloudy days. I do like the wave 2 though for its extra btu’s. Just not willing for the moment to drop a bunch more dough into for now since this setup has been working fantastic
Terrific comparison. I am looking for a small sailboat (25’) A/C and dehumidification system for at the dock and at anchor. Thanks for the information.
The only thing I would add is that leaving these extremely expensive pieces of equipment outside the tent may draw thieves. Good grief, you anything worth $20 or more left outside is free game in Flour Bluff no matter what you do. Sad to say. Thank you for your very informative post.
Thankyou for this unbiased test. Your time, efforts and use based opinions are invaluable. I think it's good these 2 companies have launched their products. Though it seems neither is absolutely a perfect solution for cooling needs in this concerning increase of temperatures globally. They Hopefully have created a push for more manufacturer's R&D to design and create even better options soon. "Hopefully" Bluetti is hard at work chasing this trend and creating their own version of a AC that will compete. I think the area needing to be cooled is critical in getting the most effective and efficient use of these types of units. Whether it's a car you camp in, a minivan, a teardrop, or a large sprinter van, if you can partition off a smaller area to reduce the size of the space needing to be cooled, the unit should show more/easier cooling power. Even something like a blanket attached to the roof and walls isolating your sleeping area in a minivan and cooling just that "smaller" space while sleeping has to work better than trying to cool the whole vehicle. Also, if you don't insulate the walls and ceiling of the vehicle, it's even more difficult to achieve effective cooling in warmer temperatures. Thanks again for this segment.
I didn't realize it until I made the comparison, but man, the Wave 2 is way bigger than the Mark 2! Personally, I think the Mark 2 is more portable and better suited for my camping tent. Plus, it's got this super cool, unique look that I'm really diggin'!
Very nice review and presentation. I need to work out of a van in summer, often 115 F and in winter often -25 F. The Wave 2 looks like it does the best of what I need for both. 60 AMPS to charge it concerns me. I have only 15 AMP and 20 AMP breakers at home and 30 AMP shore power hook up so charging may not work for me.
I'm not going to try and sound like am electrician, but this was 60amps from my 12v dc battery bank. The 120 ac current would be different but my system isn't measuring that. I only have 20 amp breakers on my ac panel and no issues charging.
You forgot to factor in the Wave 2's heater in the comparison scoring. If connected to a campground with a power outlet, it can handle duties all year round.
Not sure why none of you testers ever use the intake hose inside of the tent/car etc instead of running it outside. If you run it inside it acts as a recirculating scenario just like your car. It is a lot more efficient and faster for it to cool the interior air rather than trying to cool down the blistering constant exterior ambient temperature. Make sense? So why not test it like that?
I thought the same but then I read a comment which changed my mind a bit. The comment mentioned that because you exhaust hot air outside the vehicle you automatically will draw new air (to equalize the pressue in the cabin) from the outside. This "fresh" air would come from outside finding its way through all the little gaps from our vehicle. Now, if your vehicle is out in the sun and heated up, then you would negate the benefit of recirculating the cooler inside air. Different story at night time though where the vehicle should have cooled down enough. Sooo ... it depends?
The Wave 2 should get an extra point because it's also a heater. And if you are already part of the EcoFlow user base (ie own a solar generator) keeping it charged may not be an issue.
You missed a point in your tent testing. You failed to use both hoses with the units outside the tent. Watching you set up only the cold air to vent into the tent without putting the other front hose in place to pull in chilled air from the tent for further chilling is like turning off the recirculation mode in your car and expecting the AC or heater to work as well when pulling in outside air. Both the Wave 2 and the Mark 2 have two separate air sections. At the front they pull in ambient air, cool it (unless the Wave 2 is in heating mode), and send it back out. At the back they pull in ambient air, "heat it", and send it back out. You should always be using two hoses-either to pull in and vent hotter air or to pull in and vent colder air. At least when you moved the units inside the tent you vented correctly.
The Wave 2 is a mini split or a heat pump and it does heat also which I don't think you mentioned that. The Wave 2 side by side is a superior unit there's no comparison. It can heat an area using very low wattage.
I have the ZB and it cost $900. But it was small and had a new micro-compressor technology. It was enough to cool my RTT and it gave me a comfortable sleep. It is easy to move around and uses less power. I also have Wave 2. Actually, it disappointed me this time because it is just an air conditioner that weighs the same as the traditional 5000 BTU AC, but the size is larger than the traditional one and the design is not portable. The price is as high as 1299. You know similar parameters of the air conditioner, just $250.
Exactly. The wave 2 is kind of a pointless air conditioner because people want the lowest power consumption possible… if I want a 5000 BTU air conditioner that hogs up a bunch of power I would just buy a regular one, they exist for years now/decades. With proper insulation, which this guy doesn’t know even exist, you could stay cool with a 1500 btu ac in tent/car/van camping. Just look at his van set up. None of the windows are covered absolutely no insulation whatsoever. He could cut his cooling expense by more than half if he actually properly insulated. To run the wave two seems like you need like 800 or thousand watts of solar panels which is just very unrealistic for a portable solution like this. This is more for like a big RV. I would imagine where people like to walk around and not really use their space efficiently/don’t insulate. This is more for your like main stream type of person that doesn’t really know what they are doing.
I think you really tried to make the zero breeze look good. The fact that the w Ace 2 is a heat pump that also functions as a heater, makes the price in comparison very attractive Also, the wave was designed as an add-on to their existing product lineup. But can be used as standalone is different from zero breeze who tried to sell us beach coolers with ice cubes as better then any AC
Power bank is the right word. Just because they are big doesn't change what they are. They are not a generator as they are not generating anything, just storing energy.
Competition between 2 units that really don't work well for much anything! In realty the only thing that matters is does it cool enough, the rest doesn't matter! The wave 2 wins in your test but in tests I've seen others do neither do more than push cool air only on your face and elsewhere are basically useless! The main problem is the hot air exhaust tubes aren't insulated so they're like a radiator with hot air going thru! The only solution for someone in a van/rv is a roof top unit, or some form of split unit! Why is easy, desert heat is dry heat, and much easier to cool, but go to humid heat and either unit might last an hour before needing draining because of the humidity!
I'm interested in seeing it too! The mark 2 does heat...but not really IMO. The Mark 3 needs to add it in or the price point needs to shift if they are to compete with wave moving forward.
Really really nice job man. I've been in a Sprinter van for years and you answered it all for me. However; do you think if it hit 100+ degree weather, the eco flow would be able to keep up with a 75 degree setting? I only say this because my van is professionally insulated, all the windows have professionally made insulated covers, a roof top fan and a 3000W Goal Zero battery for power. Thanks again!
Expensive toys.....for RVers, getting an off-brand 2000w Inverter generator and a portable 5000 BTU AC unit "on wheels" is a much better value, has much more flexibility for home use during a power outage etc and will last for years...while these delicate toys will age quickly and require replacement batteries...if they are still in business in the next couple of years.
@@Trainwhrek Tacklife 2200w Inv/Gen and a SoleUSair 5000 BTU portable AC unit. Bought them as Refurbs about 3 years ago...total cost including power strips and extension cords: $800. The best part is they are small and light enough to place almost anywhere. There are more (even better) options available today. Anyway, lots of use here in Hurricane Florida. During power-outs, I used the Genny during the day to run my Chest Freezer, room fans, TV, iPad and phone chargers .... then switch to the A/C at night for comfortable sleep...wash-rinse-repeat for about a week of continuous use. Both are still in perfect working order...waiting for this years "events".
2000 Watts will run a regular 5000 BTU air conditioner for 4 hours. I know. I've tested it with Madea, frigidaire, and other brands. A portable 5000 BTU air conditioner would run Less Than 3 hours because it's using 800 watts per hour. These tiny units are very expensive but the ecoflow is alleged to only use 200 to 300 watts on average with startup surge of 500.
@@macmcleod1188 Gotcha... Thanks! Really didn't wanna shell out a grand for an ac/heater that only works at above 40°. But it's looking that way. I found a refurbished one (with battery) for $999 on their ebay site. But the size/weight and efficiency can't seem to be beat here. I kinda have a feeling having to heat myself won't really be problem going forward, but let's see. Edit... Oh damn they have it for 899 for the holiday!!
I can't see the attraction of these as they're so expensive. Maybe for a tent, but for an RV there are better/cheaper options, particularly if the vehicle already has a power system (batteries/inverter). Take a look at the (currently) US$200 Coolzy. Similar size & specs as the Wave 2. Can run off a modest sized inverter. I've just bought one to use in my motorhome in France - just waiting a day after having received it to give it a try. A bit smaller than most portable AC's.
Those coolzy has 55% 1 star ratings. But everyone seems to complain that it blows hot air back into the room without the hose attachment. Well, dah, dummies.
Just to report on the Coolzy. In 35C weather even with a hose to exhaust the hot air out a skylight - it was useless. So I’ll be another 1 star reviewer.
The eco flow is just better on every level.. its been an awesome product for me, i use it to supplement my RVs A/C when it's 100f out and i need a little extra , it works in my trucks tooper to keep the digs cool when traveling or camping, i can use it to cool my bedroom at night so i dont have to cool the entire house.. its just a beast of a unit ✌️
Great review…but no mention that the EcoWave 2 is a heat pump. That is why it can heat and cool a space. This is very important and was not really covered in your review. Deserts can become very cold at night and blistering hot during the day. Also, if you operate in recycle mode (intake comes from the room you are targeting) the unit will work faster. I see no need to suck in outside air. Although the Wave 2 is bigger, the BTUs are too. I use an Anker Powerhouse with the EcoFlow. I can output 120 VAC to Wave for a very fast recharge or DC out if no rush. The double handle is a plus for heavier Wave. In van, I use ceiling exhaust fan for ejecting exhaust air. The Wave also provides a water drain tube but only needed if moving after running a few hours. The Wave mists the moisture from condensation and blows it back into the coils to improve cooling.
@@rileyclarkfineart I bought a diesel heater that is portable for same reason. But, I doubt I will use it now that I have the Wave 2. I prefer to put up a canvas tent if staying a few days. I usually sleep in van but like option of more living space. I like to carry lots of sporting gear for hunting, fishing and photography. I built my van for utility vs cosmetics and convenience. You and your dad do great work. What did you get for this van? I see it was sold.
Aren't they both heat pumps? Can't you just run the Zero Breeze backwards and point the exhaust into the space to heat? Comparing to house AC, the EcoWave 2 would be called a "reverse cycle" AC (at least this is the term in Australia). Of course you won't get thermostat controls running backwards e.g. duty cycle off when temp reached, but it's so portable that it would be super easy to do.
@@rninnessthe ecoflow Wave 2, is a real ac and a real heater, not just heat pumps. Mine should arrive this week.
I dont know anything about the other one. Just watched a ton of excellent video reviews, about the Wave 2 & everyone said the Ecoflow is the only one like it, within this portable category. That justifies the size & weight difference, between these two.
Mark 3 Zero Breeze unit appears to have cooling and heating. It also appears to have same run time despite being more powerful than Mark 2.
I have the Wave 2 and haven't used the heater yet, as I got it this spring. I use it in my bedroom at home and run just the exhaust hose and drain hose out the window. Like you said, no sense in sucking in outside air. I did notice the exhaust hose gets hot, so I slipped a knitted tube on it. I do like the little remote.
I am a mailman in south Florida. I have been wanting info on both these products!! Thank you very much!
It was 102° in my mail truck yesterday :/
If you get one. Let us know how it works out!
I am a mailman too and I am here for that too lol...
Pkg delivery here also lol
@@emerson00745 huh….. the product works great for about 10min then the ice melts and it doesn’t cool. And that’s expected but didn’t think it would be so quick…
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Thanks for doing all this work for us. I was leaning towards the zero, now I’m all for the wave.
Thank you for this Non-Biased review. Hard to find these anymore...
Non-biased... he got both for free and has an affiliate link... he dosnt care which one you buy... either youre a bot or a shill
@ahahahahahaahah) In the beginning of the video he claims he bought both of them, by purchasing them that implies he did not get them for free and therfore his review would be non biased. Maybe since you didn't watch the video you were confused.
Maybe he bought them, but he has affiliate links... use your brain
Omg thank goodness for the window flap that holds the exhaust pipe in place. Wow!
Cools my entire basement & fixed my moisture issue! Love it
Which one?
One is portable; one is movable.
The Zero Breeze isn't over priced. Eco Flow is undercutting the price of the Wave 2 because they know you have to buy their power banks if you want to power it with DC power. It's like they're selling a printer for dirt cheap then getting you on ink.
That's not entirely true. Any power bank that delivers 12v pure sign wave power will work. Also, there's a bonus that the Wave gives that the Zero Breeze doesn't. I can also be used as a heater.
@@rapmeister1000so can the zero breeze just use the exhaust hoses there are threads on people doing it
@@neoskater420 below a certain temp, that’s not going to work because there will be no warm air to exhaust. The Wave has a dedicated heating element.
@@rapmeister1000that is nonsense lmao. Wtf is 12v pure sine power ? You do know that dc isn’t a wave at all right ?
@@Jack-ht5zi hahahah 12v pure sine power ahahaha
Well thought out and nicely done comparison. I also appreciate the fact that you made us aware that you did purchase both units.
You just earned another subscriber‼️😉😎
You missed the best feature of the wave 2 by not measuring the power draw in DC mode which cuts the power draw in half with the same performance as 110 AC power. You can run this 24/7 with a 400 watt panel for free
Thanks Brother i dont have to watch it now!!!
Takes 25 minutes for him to finally get to the point. I can’t subscribe to the nonsense.
I don't even have a battery. 400 amp batteries and 500 Solar. Seal off bed in Transit and it's very nice. Other unit to big for me
Awesome review, thanks. Just bought the Wave 2 and battery. Were in Australia so needed a bit extra grunt for the hot summers and also liked that its a heater too.
What's the pros and cons
This comparison really helped me inch toward a decision. Thank you for breaking things down in your tests, and breaking down who they would be best for. Really lays things out for the spectrum of outdoor needs, comfort, and setups. Just subscribed!
Hey, very nice review, especially considering that you purchased them with your own money:) For $100 more on the Eco Flow, you get almost twice the capacity in cooling, along with heating as it really is closer to a heat pump for your home. Also, having a built in solar charge controller means you really don't need to carry an additional power station with you (although the weight of their 400 watt panel is more than your Jackery explorer 1000!!).
The problem is that everyone is comparing them. One is 2300 btu, other 5000+. Both are movable, both are battery powered, same thing. Its like comparing a 5000 btu window ac to a 10,000 btu window ac and saying the 10,000 is better because it cools my house in 105deg weather better. Well, ya, it will. Great review, the comments are the fun part. PS, zero breeze is working on a slightly larger, but still under 20lb 5,000 btu model with heat.
Wave 2 being a heater as well as ac is a no brainer
Mark 3 has a heater feature so check that one out
And you don't need to drain the wave 2 unless it is very humid outside as it has self evaporating technology. No brainer.
@@shanecynova2424 The btu's still fall far short of the wave 2.
@@irenebrice133 the zero brezze using 17 amps, while wave2 use 40 amps, no brainer which one is most cooling
I’m really surprised that the Wave 2 doesn’t have a soft start feature. 63 amps is a lot at start.
I understand that this is an AC vs review but I think given the price point of each, the Wave 2 can also be used as a heater, which eliminates another space taking device and/or removing the whole diesel/gas heater you would have to have otherwise. I realize this would apply more to a Van lifer in most cases but I feel like it should be mentioned. Regardless I really appreciate your AC battle , keep up the good work! Thanks!
Yes, a heating element is a nice little bonus but it’s so absolutely wasteful, but I don’t really see a use for it… as always the best heating solution is more insulation in whatever place you are staying at and even better, warmer clothes? If you have to be some super bougie high class rich guy, then I guess you could just run a propane heater with a Mr. buddy it’s a lot more efficient and a lot less annoying than having to power 1500 watt heating element to get subpar/mediocre heating.
The heating function is kind of a novelty/gimmick. This is a very efficient, portable solution, but not some insanely thirsty thing you have to run off a generator, there are better solutions for that that provide more heat/more cold.
I guess I just find it kind of strange how people are trying to live a simpler/more efficient lifestyle where they don’t blow as much money/time, but then they try to spend as much money as they can, when they are living a simpler lifestyle, which one is it?
@@rileyclarkfineart I would recommend the smallest Mr. buddy you can find it and a 20 pound propane tank I had a regular Mr. buddy in my 31 foot rig, on the lowest setting, it would make me sweat in 0° weather and a 20 pound tank would last me like 1-2 weeks running 12 hr a day, it’s a miracle o.o I did this for several years and was always surprised a little the cost was to heat the entire rig. It cost me like 60 bucks of propane a month. For your little van, I would recommend the smallest little buddy you can because the bigger ones are actually a little bit too hot even on the lowest setting, and I can also verify that they are very very safe. I have slept with them on accident turned on with the windows completely shut and I woke up feeling fine Although I wouldn’t recommend it at all!
@@ZxAMobile Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the EcoWave has a traditional heating element. It uses the same principle when cooling to heat, just in reverse. When cooling it's acting as an Air Conditioner when heating it's acting as a heat pump. The energy usage to heat would be roughly the same at cooling.
@@rninness that would be incredible however I find it hard to see how it would create that heat in a very cold environment the heat pump simply pulls hot air that is already in the environment out of the environment if you don't have hot air to begin with where is it pulling it out of and if it is not pulling it from anywhere it would have to generate it and generating heat with electricity is extremely resource-intensive and there is no way to efficiently do it
@@ZxAMobile You put in 1000 watt and get out 4000 watt in heat. (A very simple explanation. Less effective when its below freezing.)
Exactly what I needed to know! Time to save up around 5 k for the batteries and air conditioner and solar panel.
We have the Wave 2. We just got back from a trip through southern California, Vegas, Zion a Tahoe. Temps were around 110-116 w a few days at 118F. Way too hot for us. Van is insulated (roof, sides). Used Vanmade Gear window covers. We found the Wave 2 could never really cool the inside of the van as it couldn’t take the hot air out fast enough. Also, like a heat pump, it collects and sends the hot air out. However, the hoses they provide, radiate so much heat which just contributes to the existing heat in the van. Think these units work best in mild climates (mid to high 60s - low 80s). Were now looking at the cruise n comfort units.
I think I'll just stick to my key fob turning my SUV on for 15 minutes when I get hot. Then turn it off when it gets really cool inside. That seems to work very well for me. Im a good sleeper and a quick 15 min wake up is ok with me to stay cool the rest of my night. So before I go to bed, I drive around blasting the rear a/c on. Then set up my Ryobi fan aiming upwards to provide air flow. If I get too hot I wake up and turn on my car with my keyfob. When its cool again. I turn the car off and Im off to DREAMLAND again.
You have been the best video explaining zero breeze vs eco flow
Well ......
Great honest Video! Earned a subscriber. Keep up that great videos.
I got the EcoFlow Wave 2 because it has both heat and ac, I'm putting it in my cargo camper I'm putting together. Thanks for the info on both units.
Good luck on the build! I am working on a testing for the heater function for the wave 2. I use a diesel heater system for my van which will be hard for it to beat, but looking forward to seeing how it performs!
Thank you, I think the Wave 2 is a safe way to stay warm or cool @@rileyclarkfineart
Excellent & thorough review. Thanks for sharing🌟 Wave is a clear winner for me. l intend to build box on side of tiny house to reduce noise & give full access.. kinda half in, half out & insulate set up... l have to give that more thought 🤔🌻
I love my Zerobreeze. We chose it over the ecoflow exclusively for the power draw. We use it mostly off grid in our 20’ sailboat in the Florida keys. The eco mode cools our cabin nicely, even during our VERY hot, humid summers. It only draws an average of 160w when its working hard. That low draw gives us a few extra nights on the water using only our 3k WH bank.
That's awesome! The power draw on the ZB is definitely a positive. I'm personally looking forward to the mark 3 model they are working on!
@@rileyclarkfineart It's nice, but we passed on it for the same reason. Increased power draw.
You should compare the Bougerv with the Zero breeze. My bougerv portable did a fantastic job cooling down my 5x8 cargo trailer,but I wouldn’t ask it to cool down a space larger than that. Also the bougerv doesn’t use an external battery bank you simply plug it into a solar generator. The bougerv also puts out 2900 btu compared to the 2300 from Zero breeze. And the bougerv is 999 bux. I think you can use the Zero breeze as a heater by simply hosing out the heater duct,,you can do that with the bougerv
One advantage for the ecoflow is you can use the battery with a Delta 2 for example. So when adding a Delta 2 additional 1kWh of battery cost more than the 1.1kWh battery of the Wave 2, and you can use the Delta 2 to charge AND power the Wave2, it all come out to be a great combo... (I think anyway), but they are still really expensive for much low power units.
Definitely subscribing! Very professional review. I just got the wave 2 for $909 on amazon prime day. Will be using/testing it in my Four Wheel Camper, powered by bed of F-150 Lightning. I’m sure it will do fine.
I’m looking to do the same in my FWC Hawk. How about an update please?
Also, where did you run out the hoses?
Fantastic review/comparison! Thank you! 😊
It's great to see a comparison between the Zero Breeze Mark 2 and the Wave 2. Many reviews only focus on one product, which doesn't give a fair comparison. I ultimately decided to go with the zero breeze, and it's been working great so far! It's much lighter and more compact, making it super convenient. I can power it with my Jackery power station. Convenience is very important for me. The wave 2 had to be recharged with the whole unit, which was a bit of a hassle. And it is not easy to carry on with that design.
@@rileyclarkfineart Thank you! Much appreciated!
Which jackery unit do you use?
@@lunationship Jackery Sucks, Buy a Bluetti
how many watts is your power bank you're using
The Wave 2 has a design flaw in that all of the condensate is not collected in the tank. Every time I tested my unit significant amounts of water would leak from the bottom of unit once I moved it. Not good in a van. I returned it.
Great review, I went with the ecoflow, got it with a sale from REI. Greetings from LV area as well, cheers!
What did you end up getting it for?
That's awesome! Good luck this camping season!
Thanks for information! I think you should give two points for van cooling...because main reason for buying them is cooling!
@@rileyclarkfineart I have ordered wave 2 without battery but with delta 2 max.Planing to use it in the semi truck. What do you think?
Im gettin the EcoFlow for sure, this in combination with my Jackery 2000 and solar, its an easy choice for my van. Also, in SoCal, its cold and hot, the zero breeze doesnt have a heater function. Peace. Awesome video!!!!
I think the reaspm that the Wave 2 did not push 65° air in your tent test is because it generally pushes way more air volume than the ZBM2 .
More air pushed means more power needed to cool to 65° , but that also means that "more cool air" gets delivered to your tent overall.
It would have been an interesting point of info , if you for example took some temperature readings with a thermometer from different corners of the tent after X amount of time
I would agree, I have a Wave 2 and have been trying it in different scenarios. Putting it on “Max” setting actually causes the air volume to go up but it does increase the output temperature as well. If you only want to focus on the coldest output temperature, don’t use the Max setting.
I was going to guess that the reason it wasn’t cooling to 65 with the unit outside the tent was because of the darker color air hose retaining heat from the sun and warming air as it travels into the tent. This compared to the white tube of the other one might make a slight difference. It seemed to cool to 65 just fine when moved inside.
@@KorraTheFrenchie The temperature sensor is on the outlet of the machine, so before the hose. Yes, a darker hose might absorb more energy from the sun shining on it, but I would guess that this effect would be negligible. Also would not change the temperature the sensor at the outlet sees.
And cooling down to 65 inside the tent also makes perfect sense, because there it is recirculating the cooled down air further and further as time goes on. Outside it uses warm, outside air, cools it down and pushes it inside. Here, the volume of air moved is important. The slower the fan goes, the "cooler" the air will be that gets pushed because it gets more time to cool down inside the evaporator of the AC unit. But also less air volume will arrive inside the tent, so potentially less cooling effect overall
In the tent, it uses already cooled-down air and cools it down even further.
Thanks. Best review of Ecoflow Wave 2, believe it or not. Irrespective of whatever that other unit was. 😂
I’m looking for backup cooling AND heating of a single modest size room for emergency use in a grid down situation.
So Wave 2 it is!
I bought a wave 2 last year. Your review seems accurate. I didn’t want to deal with installation of more batteries and a 12 volt rooftop. While I don’t regret the purchase, it really only cools my insulated Promaster about 12 degrees (at night with insulated covers on windows and cab curtained off.). I did buy an extended tube and using that to keep the air blowing directly on me makes it very comfortable. Others have criticized your test for running these units at max, but honestly it just won’t cool on eco mode (unless it is cool outside and you just don’t want to use your fans). I don’t travel that much in hot areas. My workaround is to recharge that battery while driving. But really like almost all RV AC’s, you need AC power because the battery won’t last a full night even on eco mode. It is important to insulate the exhaust tubing! And you are some kind of wizard at setup. That is what I hate..lugging that 40 lbs. from back and up the steps, placing the window plate and dealing with the hoses. On my best day it is 7 minutes. If/when I need a next van, I will look into a 12 volt rooftop or mini split with a bigger battery bank.
I have 2 fans on my rig, and honestly 95% of situations I find myself in running those on a circulation mode with the windows cracked can get the space very comfy. I live in the desert, so my van is designed to get me away from the 120 degree heat. Anything 90ish and below my fans do the job. But like you said, this unit is great for taking the edge off by having cold air blow directly on you. There are certainly tons of great and affordable roof top solutions now which make something like this obsolete moving forward....if you absolutely need ac
Hi Riley been watching from Ireland thank you so much my friend.
The heating function of the Wave 2 really makes it a APU alternative for semi trucks though
Initially leaning towards the wave at first, but I think I’ll end up going with the zero breeze. Do a lot of tent camping and already have a Jackery with solar. Makes camping in humid Florida summers 100x easier.
I will caution you that you better have an insulated tent or at very least get it in the shade. I’m in Texas and I tried out the Wave 2 in a bare tent in the Texas sun and there is no way it could keep up. The ZeroBreeze would have even less of a chance.
@@stacycarr1349 it’s got decent insulation, it’s got a super thick rain fly that takes most the Florida sun, and an inner tent ceiling that stays near ambient.
@@legostarwarsrulezI’m in Louisiana an I use the zero breeze 2 with its battery also paired with the Bluetti AC200P an 4 of the PV200 panels.
An I definitely need to pick up an actual insulated tent. But the few times I did use it with a standard tent. What I did was bring along a few moving blankets. An cut slits in the blanket an threw over the tent. So the clips for the poles could go through it. An had the moving blankets over the tent for some form of insulation. Between the rain fly. An made sure I was u see a tree.
During the day it was fine. Just had to use the hose to blow at us if was in it. But when it got darker. It was comfortable an cool.
But a true insulated tent would of definitely been the way to go an probably would of made a big difference
@@stacycarr1349 I think people should insulate everything in their entire lives. This should be a no-brainer. Everything humanly possible that exists should be insulated. There is no downside to insulation when you are running an air conditioner/keeping warm.
@@AquaTech225 screw an insulated tent, just buy actual reflective/reflectix insulation and put it over the tent, insulated tent will just be prone to mildew or mold if you are buying down and if you are buying polyester insulation it is absolutely horrible compared to air bubble or foam insulation.
Air bubble insulation will be both lighter weight and exponentially more efficient as well as reflect the heat which is a huge part of insulation, considering most tans are a dark color that will heat up incredibly just out of principle
I guess this is like comparing a small power station to a beast of a power station. I pick the more powerful product that also has self evap tech with more than double the btu's. Oh and the heater is a great bonus. I pick the Wave 2. This will also come in handy at home during a power outage.
The EcoFlow is a heat pump. Just like most houses have. Mine has been at my buddy’s house since his AC went out. Wave 2 got his room which is about 400sqft from 97 to 81 during the day. And it gets it down in the 60s at night.
I also own both of these. I l’ve been using ZeroBreese Mk II for my over landing trips in small SUV successfully (I have to use the foam cutouts that they provide as part of the box as window inserts). ZB is definitely not doing much in 115F heat in the 144 Sprinter, cuz it is close to 66 sq ft. This is when I had to put it to the test in SLC last summer, trying to work remotely in the van during kids’ soccer camp. I hope Wave 2 will perform better under similar conditions in the van. The battery doesn’t last that long in HP mode. I plan to use it with my EF DeltaPro, but it sucks that I had to purchase more cables and adapters from EF in order for this setup to work. Overall, this is powerful setup, but also the most expensive.
@@rileyclarkfineart SLC last summer was one extreme way to test my ZeroBreeze 😀. Now I know it’s limitations. I have one roof fan in my sprinter, but it is currently suffering from “Maxx Air green light of death” on higher RPMs (an effect of voltage drop due to length of wire). But if I use both ZB MkII vented into the open roof fan and Wave 2 vented into the passenger window with TerraWagen insert - I can potentially beat any heat wave.
In my normal life I tend to gravitate to either the mountains or the coast for camping in the summer and just having one roof fan is enough.
As for solar - that is still in plans (that is why I saved some real estate on the roof by not installing the second roof fan. Now I can fit one 400W industrial grade panel plus couple of skinny ones to each side of the fan.
@@rileyclarkfineart Thanks for getting back! I enjoyed the content! Keep it coming.
The wave2 can heat too. Nice to have for the cold cold days.
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Thank you for these reviews.
Glad I saw this was tested in low humidity. This thing would be less useful than a fan here on Gulf Coast! At 90% humidity and 90s on cool summer day!
Thanks for this review...i have decided to get the Zero Mark 2 because of portability and I am able to use my Jackery 1000E with it and the Mark2 consumes only 240bwatts. Who the heck wants to lug around 60lbs for the Eco2 that consumed wayyyy more watts. No brainer here. Your video showed the van temperature dropped to 72 degree in 95 degree using the Mark2 heat is wonderful. I have a sedan so that's gonna dropped it down to 67 to 68 degree in 100 degree heat!
The eco2 is heavier but almost double the cooling capacity and the ability to heat also I’ll carry the extra weight
I just watched this video and was thinking the same thing. I don't understand why someone would be pulling intake from the outside (hot) air instead of recycling the cooling air inside the van, camper, trailer, etc.... I assume if you have a short distance for the exhaust hose so as to not have it as a heat vessel inside of the van and you are circulating the cooling air in the vehicle, things should work well....or at least better????
Zero breeze in perfect for truck drivers! Easy to use, lightweight, and a great battery life
Definitely! I have an icy breeze and while it’s a great idea it’s just not practical for using one your truck in a daily basis. Zero breeze is perfect
Have you tried to use it in the truck? Is it sufficient during day time?
I have and it kept me cool all summer. But hold off on buying the 2 because I just saw on their website that a version 3 will be launching soon
awesome video but I have to point out the closer the exhaust is to the exterior the cooler it will be
I'd say that "power bank" is more accurate than "solar generator" considering it's a portable battery and doesn't actually generate electricity.
Thanks for this review! I’m a new subscriber and look forward to more content from you 👍🏽
The EcoFlow Wave 2 battery can be charged independently from an EcoFlow power bank. So, conceivably you could buy an extra battery and run it while charging the other one if you have an EcoFlow power bank.
My ecoflow puts out about 65° in 106-degree weather also do not use the large vent in the tent setup so you can recirculate the cold air and the unit will work a lot more efficient.
Great video. It would be interesting to see a no name brand comparison to these
The only similar one I can find that is comparable is the bougeRV one. There is no chance it competes against the wave 2 with the btu rating it has, but could maybe hold up in certain circumstances against the ZB. The ZB3 is in the works and trying to get my hands on one for some testing. Let me know what you would like to see tested and I'll see what I can do!
Does the Zero Breeze heat as well? If it doesn't then I think the Zero would be half the machine that the Wave 2 is. When you can heat and cool you have much more utility. Also did you buy the battery with the Wave 2? I hear that it uses less when it's directly DC as opposed to using your Jackery's AC outlet which would be less efficient. Otherwise a fine review and thx for the real world tent testing. Both seem like good products.
@@rileyclarkfineart Good to know.👍
you would greatly improve your cooling in the van if you insulated the exhaust pipes. or bring them closer to the window. this is the downside to portable units. the exhaust pipes increase the temp within the space it serves. try wrapping a towel around the exhaust pipe see how much better it will get. also the tent set up i would hope you had your screens closed. the b roll you shot shows the screen covers off allowing hot air to enter and cool air to leave. i appreciate the effort you put into this video and its quite informative. it helps make my decision. im an ecoflow nut. i own (3) 2000w power inverters so expanding on their systems seems logical but damm soooooooo expensive.
100% agree about the ports. I do cover them now, or I insulate that part of my van with a curtain to cut off the heat.
I have the Ecowave 2 on the way. I hope to test it while there's still some heat left.
How has your experience been so far with the Wave 2? I’m considering buying one for my semi truck
I ended up going with the zero breeze 2. If you know how to work with its 2300btu limitations.
An for like a tent. Either insulate it the best you can. I did with 3 moving blankets between the tent and rain fly. An under a shaded area. It did decent. Later in the evening an night. It got good comfortable an cool. I’m the good Louisiana heat/humidity.
I have it with the battery pack. But also pair it together with the Bluetti AC200P and 4 of their PV200 solar panels. With 50’ of solar panel extension cords. To be able to keep the solar generator in the tent to stay cool, while having enough cord to be able to have the panels anywhere needed for the sun.
An I want to say the battery for the zero breeze is 750 or what Wh.
An the Bluetti AC200P is 2,000Wh.
So between the two. I can basically run it on high the entire night an even with the solar panels say bringing in even 500watts of solar. I’m still bringing enough in to run the AC if needed. An still build up the battery bank some. Vs had I went with the Wave 2 it would have to stay in eco mode. An still burn more juice. An being in less from the panels due to what it consumes.
So the breeze works great if you know it’s limitations. An capitalize on what it can do.
It’s easier on the power. An still does wonders getting keeping it cool.
Without dumping a lot more money into it all. I wouldn’t be able to keep up with the Wave 2’s consumption an would have a lot more downtime without air in more cloudy days.
I do like the wave 2 though for its extra btu’s. Just not willing for the moment to drop a bunch more dough into for now since this setup has been working fantastic
Terrific comparison. I am looking for a small sailboat (25’) A/C and dehumidification system for at the dock and at anchor. Thanks for the information.
The only thing I would add is that leaving these extremely expensive pieces of equipment outside the tent may draw thieves. Good grief, you anything worth $20 or more left outside is free game in Flour Bluff no matter what you do. Sad to say. Thank you for your very informative post.
Thanks for this test, it is very useful 🙂.
Thankyou for this unbiased test. Your time, efforts and use based opinions are invaluable. I think it's good these 2 companies have launched their products. Though it seems neither is absolutely a perfect solution for cooling needs in this concerning increase of temperatures globally. They Hopefully have created a push for more manufacturer's R&D to design and create even better options soon. "Hopefully" Bluetti is hard at work chasing this trend and creating their own version of a AC that will compete. I think the area needing to be cooled is critical in getting the most effective and efficient use of these types of units. Whether it's a car you camp in, a minivan, a teardrop, or a large sprinter van, if you can partition off a smaller area to reduce the size of the space needing to be cooled, the unit should show more/easier cooling power. Even something like a blanket attached to the roof and walls isolating your sleeping area in a minivan and cooling just that "smaller" space while sleeping has to work better than trying to cool the whole vehicle. Also, if you don't insulate the walls and ceiling of the vehicle, it's even more difficult to achieve effective cooling in warmer temperatures. Thanks again for this segment.
The price is now higher than your video suggests for the eco flow with a battery pack.
Well done, Riley, thanks
Great review. Thanks 👍
I didn't realize it until I made the comparison, but man, the Wave 2 is way bigger than the Mark 2! Personally, I think the Mark 2 is more portable and better suited for my camping tent. Plus, it's got this super cool, unique look that I'm really diggin'!
I’m using the wave2 in a studio apartment it works well
It's keeps your apartment cool? So you know the temp it gets to?
Very nice review and presentation. I need to work out of a van in summer, often 115 F and in winter often -25 F. The Wave 2 looks like it does the best of what I need for both. 60 AMPS to charge it concerns me. I have only 15 AMP and 20 AMP breakers at home and 30 AMP shore power hook up so charging may not work for me.
I'm not going to try and sound like am electrician, but this was 60amps from my 12v dc battery bank. The 120 ac current would be different but my system isn't measuring that. I only have 20 amp breakers on my ac panel and no issues charging.
Thank you, but this thing about setting up hoses/tubes, I would rather just set up some portable fans.
Great video! Very informative and professionally done!
Thank you!
Thanks man. Decision made
Good luck on your adventures!
You forgot to factor in the Wave 2's heater in the comparison scoring. If connected to a campground with a power outlet, it can handle duties all year round.
Not for offgrid. 😂
@@michaelgonzalez9419 It can if you have a decent lithium ion battery bank. It’s a heat pump and very efficient above 20F.
Not sure why none of you testers ever use the intake hose inside of the tent/car etc instead of running it outside. If you run it inside it acts as a recirculating scenario just like your car. It is a lot more efficient and faster for it to cool the interior air rather than trying to cool down the blistering constant exterior ambient temperature. Make sense? So why not test it like that?
I thought the same but then I read a comment which changed my mind a bit. The comment mentioned that because you exhaust hot air outside the vehicle you automatically will draw new air (to equalize the pressue in the cabin) from the outside. This "fresh" air would come from outside finding its way through all the little gaps from our vehicle. Now, if your vehicle is out in the sun and heated up, then you would negate the benefit of recirculating the cooler inside air. Different story at night time though where the vehicle should have cooled down enough. Sooo ... it depends?
The Wave 2 should get an extra point because it's also a heater. And if you are already part of the EcoFlow user base (ie own a solar generator) keeping it charged may not be an issue.
You missed a point in your tent testing. You failed to use both hoses with the units outside the tent. Watching you set up only the cold air to vent into the tent without putting the other front hose in place to pull in chilled air from the tent for further chilling is like turning off the recirculation mode in your car and expecting the AC or heater to work as well when pulling in outside air.
Both the Wave 2 and the Mark 2 have two separate air sections. At the front they pull in ambient air, cool it (unless the Wave 2 is in heating mode), and send it back out. At the back they pull in ambient air, "heat it", and send it back out. You should always be using two hoses-either to pull in and vent hotter air or to pull in and vent colder air. At least when you moved the units inside the tent you vented correctly.
I ordered the eco flow with the battery direct from ecoflow 989 refurbished.
I would give 10 👍if I could.
Your video is very informative and well explained with fair comparison.
Thanks a lot, man 👍
Thanks for video, it helps in making a call! Side note does charging with solar while running appliances ruin the battery?
Nice review and thanks for all your hard work!
Glad it helped and thank you!
Great comparison! What kind of tent is shown in this video? It looks bad ass!
The Wave 2 is a mini split or a heat pump and it does heat also which I don't think you mentioned that. The Wave 2 side by side is a superior unit there's no comparison. It can heat an area using very low wattage.
Zero Breeze Mark 3 blows them all away
I have the ZB and it cost $900. But it was small and had a new micro-compressor technology. It was enough to cool my RTT and it gave me a comfortable sleep. It is easy to move around and uses less power.
I also have Wave 2. Actually, it disappointed me this time because it is just an air conditioner that weighs the same as the traditional 5000 BTU AC, but the size is larger than the traditional one and the design is not portable. The price is as high as 1299. You know similar parameters of the air conditioner, just $250.
Exactly. The wave 2 is kind of a pointless air conditioner because people want the lowest power consumption possible… if I want a 5000 BTU air conditioner that hogs up a bunch of power I would just buy a regular one, they exist for years now/decades.
With proper insulation, which this guy doesn’t know even exist, you could stay cool with a 1500 btu ac in tent/car/van camping. Just look at his van set up. None of the windows are covered absolutely no insulation whatsoever. He could cut his cooling expense by more than half if he actually properly insulated.
To run the wave two seems like you need like 800 or thousand watts of solar panels which is just very unrealistic for a portable solution like this. This is more for like a big RV. I would imagine where people like to walk around and not really use their space efficiently/don’t insulate. This is more for your like main stream type of person that doesn’t really know what they are doing.
great video riley, are they good for balconies?
The wave 2 would definitely be great on a balcony! Especially if it's enclosed somewhat.
I think you really tried to make the zero breeze look good.
The fact that the w
Ace 2 is a heat pump that also functions as a heater, makes the price in comparison very attractive
Also, the wave was designed as an add-on to their existing product lineup. But can be used as standalone is different from zero breeze who tried to sell us beach coolers with ice cubes as better then any AC
Definitely agree that the family lineup for the ecoflow is something to consider. ZB is working on releasing a mark 3 which on paper is a big upgrade.
Power bank is the right word. Just because they are big doesn't change what they are. They are not a generator as they are not generating anything, just storing energy.
Competition between 2 units that really don't work well for much anything!
In realty the only thing that matters is does it cool enough, the rest doesn't matter!
The wave 2 wins in your test but in tests I've seen others do neither do more than push cool air only on your face and elsewhere are basically useless!
The main problem is the hot air exhaust tubes aren't insulated so they're like a radiator with hot air going thru!
The only solution for someone in a van/rv is a roof top unit, or some form of split unit!
Why is easy, desert heat is dry heat, and much easier to cool, but go to humid heat and either unit might last an hour before needing draining because of the humidity!
Incredibly helpful video, thank you for taking the time, new subscriber 😄
Glad it helped!
nice comparison, thanks, wonder how the Zero breeze mark3 will do. I think it will do heat too. Its not out yet. Cheers,
I'm interested in seeing it too! The mark 2 does heat...but not really IMO. The Mark 3 needs to add it in or the price point needs to shift if they are to compete with wave moving forward.
Might want to close the doors. That mesh screen is letting air pass.
Really really nice job man. I've been in a Sprinter van for years and you answered it all for me. However; do you think if it hit 100+ degree weather, the eco flow would be able to keep up with a 75 degree setting? I only say this because my van is professionally insulated, all the windows have professionally made insulated covers, a roof top fan and a 3000W Goal Zero battery for power. Thanks again!
Well shot video!
So you are saying it cooled the tent but not the van how does that work
Can you use the ZeroBreeze for heat if you use the exhaust port instead of the cooling supply?
Expensive toys.....for RVers, getting an off-brand 2000w Inverter generator and a portable 5000 BTU AC unit "on wheels" is a much better value, has much more flexibility for home use during a power outage etc and will last for years...while these delicate toys will age quickly and require replacement batteries...if they are still in business in the next couple of years.
What ones do you use for your set up?
@@Trainwhrek Tacklife 2200w Inv/Gen and a SoleUSair 5000 BTU portable AC unit. Bought them as Refurbs about 3 years ago...total cost including power strips and extension cords: $800. The best part is they are small and light enough to place almost anywhere. There are more (even better) options available today. Anyway, lots of use here in Hurricane Florida. During power-outs, I used the Genny during the day to run my Chest Freezer, room fans, TV, iPad and phone chargers .... then switch to the A/C at night for comfortable sleep...wash-rinse-repeat for about a week of continuous use. Both are still in perfect working order...waiting for this years "events".
@@goobfilmcast4239 How many watts does the soleusair use?
2000 Watts will run a regular 5000 BTU air conditioner for 4 hours. I know. I've tested it with Madea, frigidaire, and other brands. A portable 5000 BTU air conditioner would run Less Than 3 hours because it's using 800 watts per hour.
These tiny units are very expensive but the ecoflow is alleged to only use 200 to 300 watts on average with startup surge of 500.
@@macmcleod1188 Gotcha... Thanks! Really didn't wanna shell out a grand for an ac/heater that only works at above 40°. But it's looking that way. I found a refurbished one (with battery) for $999 on their ebay site. But the size/weight and efficiency can't seem to be beat here. I kinda have a feeling having to heat myself won't really be problem going forward, but let's see. Edit... Oh damn they have it for 899 for the holiday!!
Great review !!
Loved the review
I can't see the attraction of these as they're so expensive. Maybe for a tent, but for an RV there are better/cheaper options, particularly if the vehicle already has a power system (batteries/inverter). Take a look at the (currently) US$200 Coolzy. Similar size & specs as the Wave 2. Can run off a modest sized inverter. I've just bought one to use in my motorhome in France - just waiting a day after having received it to give it a try. A bit smaller than most portable AC's.
Those coolzy has 55% 1 star ratings. But everyone seems to complain that it blows hot air back into the room without the hose attachment. Well, dah, dummies.
Just to report on the Coolzy. In 35C weather even with a hose to exhaust the hot air out a skylight - it was useless. So I’ll be another 1 star reviewer.
The eco flow is just better on every level.. its been an awesome product for me, i use it to supplement my RVs
A/C when it's 100f out and i need a little extra , it works in my trucks tooper to keep the digs cool when traveling or camping, i can use it to cool my bedroom at night so i dont have to cool the entire house.. its just a beast of a unit ✌️
I just ordered on with the battery for $1100 plus tax. Price is supposed to be good till Labor Day.