The DWEMER GOD - The Numidium - Elder Scrolls Lore

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  • @konradwireen7082
    @konradwireen7082 5 років тому +1455

    In short: The dwemer DESTROYS themselves with FACTS and LOGIC

    • @IamaDinosaur
      @IamaDinosaur 4 роки тому +22

      Instead they created a monster in the end. A soulless husk.

    • @quanicle101
      @quanicle101 4 роки тому +85

      ben shapiro DESTROYS my sand castle i spent ALL DAY MAKING

    • @SadFemboy
      @SadFemboy 4 роки тому +41

      @@quanicle101 Ben Shapiro REKT my life with ALCOHOL and SPEEDING WITH A CAR WHILE MY SON WAS WALKING

    • @ADrunkCrayfish
      @ADrunkCrayfish 4 роки тому +20

      SirHansVonThunderCock TheMagnificentGodKingOfItaly when your in the airplane and Ben Shapiro DESTROYS the left wing.

    • @angrypastabrewing
      @angrypastabrewing 4 роки тому +7

      Facts don’t care about your feelings

  • @cursedvideosinc.2487
    @cursedvideosinc.2487 6 років тому +1559

    *slaps the heart of lorkhan*
    Dwemer: "Master Kagrenac, I don't feel so good."

    • @terrorizer_112
      @terrorizer_112 6 років тому +38

      ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

    • @GyprockGypsy
      @GyprockGypsy 6 років тому +116

      *slaps the top of Heart of Lorkhan*
      Dunmer Salesman: "This baby can hold so much soul!"

    • @Lostinsilenthill
      @Lostinsilenthill 5 років тому +5

      Avengers reference nice!

    • @nazzeem_4388
      @nazzeem_4388 5 років тому +20

      Dwemer: *slaps heart of lorkhan*
      Also dwemer:

    • @DeadSpacedOut
      @DeadSpacedOut 4 роки тому +13

      @@nazzeem_4388 Do you get to the cloud district very often?
      Oh what am i saying, you're extinct!

  • @wolves44445
    @wolves44445 6 років тому +1965

    The Dwemer realized they were in a video game

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul 6 років тому +68

      Particularly when your rocking the broken IQ build....
      Seriously, Nerf Humans please! They are dominating the meta!
      Added:
      TierZoo does good work, recommend watching.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 років тому +4

      Not only that, they also prepared for a crossover with the SRW franchise!

    • @keulron2290
      @keulron2290 5 років тому +38

      Well, The Elder Scrolls universe or "Mundus" is actually a dream. I personally think that it might be the dream of somebody in the world of Fallout which would then make the connection needed for a few theories.

    • @chrisw7047
      @chrisw7047 5 років тому +33

      It all returns to nothing
      It all comes tumbling down
      tumbling down
      tumbling down

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 5 років тому +9

      Raggeird 076
      What are the theories? If they’re just dreams, then there’s not much they have to do with each other. Unless in Fallout they build things they see in their Elder Scrolls dreams.

  • @randommandoade1465
    @randommandoade1465 5 років тому +810

    Heart of Lorkhan: *Gets Slapped by the Dwemer*
    Heart of Lorkhan: *Slaps the Dwemer back*

    • @ianbirchfield5124
      @ianbirchfield5124 2 роки тому +5

      clap the Heart of Lorkhan, get clapped by the Heart of Lorkhan.

  • @tylermech66
    @tylermech66 3 роки тому +58

    _When the Brass Tower walks..._
    goddamn that line from Esbern when studying Alduin's Wall had chills running down my spine.

  • @Rebelzize
    @Rebelzize 6 років тому +989

    How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive?
    Jokes aside I love this video. Dwemer are by far the most interesting mystery in the TES games and maybe the TES universe.

    • @zamathellama9708
      @zamathellama9708 6 років тому +7

      Rebelzize ahh the dagoth ur boss fight. I remember that I was very confused during it since I had forgotten that I had to hit the heart with the hammer AND sword.

    • @peachyjam9440
      @peachyjam9440 6 років тому +1

      I don't think they are that interesting, we know what made them disappear but we just don't know what happened to them

    • @asafbochnick3712
      @asafbochnick3712 6 років тому +13

      I dont think that they are the most intersting in all tes unvirese, i think that the akavir land is more intersting, becouse we know barly nothing about them

    • @peachyjam9440
      @peachyjam9440 6 років тому +6

      @Khashon Haselrig they disappeared because Kagrenac was experimenting with the heart of Lorkhan. There is a quest in Skyrim in which a mage from the College recreates that on a smaller scale and he disappears. You can then summon his ,,shade''. Most likely the Dwemer were absorbed by the Numidium or the Heart itself, because the only thing those have in common with the dragonborn is that all are in some sense and degree divine

    • @peachyjam9440
      @peachyjam9440 6 років тому +1

      @@asafbochnick3712 I agree, there are also different continents we know even less about! And there are also all the realms of Oblivion, Aetherius, the Moons and other interesting things we know little about like Hist or the Dirreni tower

  • @jacobjohnston3983
    @jacobjohnston3983 6 років тому +512

    Man, I LOVE Morrowind lore. The Dwemer, the Chimer, Indoril Nerevar, and the concept of CHIM. It's all just so deep and incredible. Vivec is probably my favorite character in TES.

    • @alecneal8335
      @alecneal8335 6 років тому +28

      He has a nice penis sword

    • @seynkrosis9658
      @seynkrosis9658 6 років тому +23

      I dont know much about vivec (about him as a person) but i tend to not like him, because he took Molag Bals dick and shoved it into Azuras mouth (I like Azura)

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 6 років тому +3

      Jacob Johnston there's also Amaranth when you sacrifice your chim and become a new god head. You dream but awaken at once.

    • @CheffBryan
      @CheffBryan 6 років тому +4

      I love Morrowind as well. Over the next couple of years, I'm hoping to finally finish drawings of the Vvardenfell Glass Armor and start building a complete set to wear.

    • @JXEditor
      @JXEditor 6 років тому +5

      Alec, *spear
      Jacob, *ChIM

  • @WhimsicalCreature457
    @WhimsicalCreature457 4 роки тому +144

    I have a theory for TES that relates to the Dwemer. I always questioned why technology has BARELY evolved in Tamriel and I think the reason being is that the people don’t want to end up like the Dwemer. They fear that if they started to advance in technology they would vanish too.

    • @pancakes8670
      @pancakes8670 Рік тому +19

      Probably the most likely answer. In Black Marsh, Argonians fear the idea of technological advancement because they've been taught by the Hist Trees that it is a fruitless effort. The rest of Tamriel probably feel the same way.

    • @maxgio8655
      @maxgio8655 Рік тому +4

      They have no need to advance when they have magic

    • @sirsir9665
      @sirsir9665 Рік тому +3

      When you have magic you don't need technology...

    • @S.K.u.S.H
      @S.K.u.S.H Рік тому +6

      @@sirsir9665Dwemer technology uses magic

    • @that_one_helljumper
      @that_one_helljumper 10 місяців тому +2

      Thats a good theory and makes sense, I have my own though.
      The people of Tamriel have their cultures and understanding of the world so centered around magic and the gods that their technology doesn't advanced down the path the Dwemer did. The Dwemer controlled the world around them, and everything in it
      Man and Mer went with the flow of their lands of Aedra and Daedra

  • @bensutcliffe1975
    @bensutcliffe1975 6 років тому +850

    The dwermer will return. Have faith.

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo 6 років тому +151

      Have faith, unlike the Dwemer.

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 6 років тому +41

      If the Dwemer come back they'll probably be the new Falmer

    • @redfallxenos4585
      @redfallxenos4585 6 років тому +14

      @@whoknows7968 How and why would they be the new Falmer?

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 6 років тому +52

      A A Cause if they are alive they've been in a different dimension for thousands of years, the Dwemer have definitely changed somewhat in that time

    • @ソフトウェットソフトウェット
      @ソフトウェットソフトウェット 6 років тому +10

      Who Knows that’s a dumb Theory

  • @threekeysmusic
    @threekeysmusic 6 років тому +105

    Remember when Molag went Bals deep into Vivec? Good times, yah.

    • @luigicadorna8644
      @luigicadorna8644 3 роки тому +8

      I remember that it looked a little like this.

  • @Kiiw3y
    @Kiiw3y 6 років тому +652

    I find it unlikely that the Dwemer Zero-summed. To Zero-sum is to be erased completely. There will be no trace of memory left in any person that the one who zero-summed even existed, yet Yagrum Bagarn and the Tribunal still remember some named Dwemer.

    • @aceofknaves6296
      @aceofknaves6296 6 років тому +205

      Also if they never existed no trace of them would exist. So, no Dwemer ruins, artifacts, armor, weapons, etc. I have long rejected the idea that they zero-summed.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 6 років тому +161

      Skyrim does hint at another possibility with the quest Arniel's Endeavour, which ends with the scholar striking a Warped Soul Gem with Keening, disappearing in a wave of distorted air, and being brought back as a shade by the Dragonborn.

    • @calllosum
      @calllosum 6 років тому +1

      Lord Suicide......

    • @GT-wj3gl
      @GT-wj3gl 6 років тому +93

      They probably bound themselves to Numidum, sort of like how Arniel bound himself to the dragonborn.

    • @GT-wj3gl
      @GT-wj3gl 6 років тому +44

      @Anderson Dalmeus Not possible. We literally have a living dwemer.

  • @HealedCoyote997
    @HealedCoyote997 6 років тому +365

    The Numidium is just a reassembly of Liberty Prime.

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 4 роки тому +79

      “Zero-Sum is a preferable alternative to Daedra worship!”

    • @certifiedcoolguy583
      @certifiedcoolguy583 4 роки тому +22

      DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO RELIGION

    • @OmegaFire11
      @OmegaFire11 4 роки тому +45

      Ah yes, from the Brotherhood of Brass

    • @artorius4809
      @artorius4809 4 роки тому

      Haha true !

    • @DISTurbedwaffle918
      @DISTurbedwaffle918 4 роки тому +11

      *Red Daedra Threat spotted on Dwemer soil!*

  • @blackjack2526
    @blackjack2526 6 років тому +131

    Ah, everyone's favorite NO-Bot.
    Weaponizing Nihilism itself?
    The Dwemer sure is bunch of geniuses.

  • @J2ojuiced95
    @J2ojuiced95 6 років тому +428

    I really hope the Dwemer will return in a future game. There’s so much more that could be done with them.

    • @joseffliegl4167
      @joseffliegl4167 6 років тому +26

      a game that plays in the past

    • @Golfbob
      @Golfbob 6 років тому +43

      I’d love to play an elder scrolls that deals directly with them, the mystery around them, and the disappearance of them. Even if it’s just DLC for the next Elder Scrolls, I’d love to have it.

    • @forrestdorman4870
      @forrestdorman4870 6 років тому +47

      I’d love for them to advance the series time and have a moment when the dwemer suddenly show up again. Maybe like alduin in Skyrim.

    • @TheZebinator
      @TheZebinator 6 років тому +71

      While this is pretty cool, most of the coolness of dwemer is the fact that they disappeared so suddenly and all the mysticism around it. I think that if the dwemer would come back it would be very very hard, probably impossible to make them live up to their lore, like some philosopher said, the beauty of dreams is that they are not real

    • @weed3728
      @weed3728 5 років тому +16

      The Illuminati the mystery behind the dwemer is what makes them so interesting I doubt the entire race will return as a whole but I really hope we see at least 1 more dwarf in a future installment

  • @WatchingCrow
    @WatchingCrow 4 роки тому +36

    Auriel/Akatosh: NOOOO!!! STOP USING THE GIANT ROBOT IT SCREWS WITH TIME!!
    Dwemer/Tiber Septim/The Agent: haha numidium go brrr

    • @sirsir9665
      @sirsir9665 Рік тому

      @@Super50ldier He said Akatosh....

  • @Xolcm
    @Xolcm 6 років тому +212

    The Numidium represents the concept of "Is Not", negating something's existence. This is believed to be what happened to the Dwemer. The Numidium's disappearance is a result of negating its own existence, but it later negated it's own negation, pushing itself back into existence. This could have been possible because its power source - the mantella - while blasted into Aetherious, still existed. Removing a stone from its tower is different from destroying it. During the Second Era, the Heart of Transparent Law was removed from the Crystal Tower, but when it was returned, the tower was still active. The Numidium's disappearance during the warp in the west was a result of it again negating its own existence, but since its power source has been completely destroyed now, it doesn't have the power to put itself back into existence again, since if a tower's stone is destroyed, the tower can't be reactivated.
    Since Akulakhan was never turned on, it was never more than a giant automaton.
    The Nereverine did recover the Numidium's blueprints, so it is possible that a third Numidium could be built, but powering it is another matter entirely, and that's assuming that the Nereverine didn't destroy the blueprints later anyway.

    • @CheffBryan
      @CheffBryan 6 років тому +13

      With Keening being rediscovered as lore, all of the rare and valuable treasures of past successful adventurers seems exceedingly likely to be rediscovered.

    • @ptownspazz7587
      @ptownspazz7587 6 років тому +13

      How about Dragon souls? A being holding more Dragon Souls than any before

    • @Felahliir
      @Felahliir 6 років тому +15

      It only takes three Shezzarines to power the Numidium.
      And seeing how heart stones are being researched by Neloth, it isn’t far fetched that a new Mantella oversoul could be made out of three black soul gems attached to a heart stone.

    • @ACE-si4ng
      @ACE-si4ng 5 років тому +1

      Didn’t Sotha Sil almost build a Numidium

    • @moviemaker2011z
      @moviemaker2011z 5 років тому +1

      How about the wye of magnis?

  • @Irishcrossing
    @Irishcrossing 6 років тому +177

    Small correction, Zero Sum is not the opposite of CHIM, rather it is the result of not CHIMing correctly. The Opposite of CHIM is Dreamsleeving, or Dreamselfing. Dagoth Ur is a great example of Dreamselfing.

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 6 років тому +3

      Want to explain Dreamselfing? I've never heard of it

    • @Irishcrossing
      @Irishcrossing 6 років тому +126

      The name itself it really just a place holder for Anti-CHIM as Dagoth Ur is the only instance as we know to achieve this weird and abstract form. To understand it, you must understand the importance of the Godhead, zero sum, and CHIM. The Godhhead allows us to understand that the world of Elder scrolls is a dream constructed by Anu the Everything. The Dream is made of a code that uses 1s and 0s known as the Dreamsleave.
      The act of Zero summing is weird in the fact that the code goes "I AM I AND I ARE ALL WE" aka 1-1=0 thus the person would "disappear" and any evidence of the person or the chiming in place would disappear. Zero sum essentially makes two versions of the person who tries to CHIM, one that will disappear and one who never tried it in the first place. During the act of being Zero sum, the person is both not disappearing and disappearing at the same time.
      CHIM uses the code "I AM I AND I ARE ALL WE BUT I AM STILL I" 1-1+1=CHIM. CHIM brings you to the understanding by showing you the Godhead and the world itself. The Cosmological world itself is often presented as a wheel with spokes leading to the material world, however those who reach CHIM will see the world in a new perspective, as a tower and not a wheel. Essentially they go from seeing a O to an I. Those who CHIM know they are a small part of a dream but are self-loving enough to not zero-sum.
      Dreamsleaving/Dreamselfing/Anti-CHIM is weird to explain as Dagoth Ur doesn't go into detail of his transformation as he doesn't understand it himself. Dagoth is and was dead, however due to Lorkhan shenanigans, Dagoth was warped into the Dreamsleave itself. Dagoth Ur gazed upon the creation of the world and saw ∞, he did not see the Godhead but merely his being as a connected circuit within the Dreamsleave. Essentially, because of his death, he achieved the code -1(dead)+1(But I exist in the world)-1(But I am not here)=DAGOTH UR. Dagoth ur began to believe that the Dreamsleave was his flesh, which is why the Dreamers dream and why they partake in the Sharmat's "House of me". Dagoth Ur's true plan was one of his own subconscious, to turn the entirety of the Cosmos into DAGOTH UR.

    • @therodyman700
      @therodyman700 6 років тому +94

      what drugs were the lore writers taking when coming up with this shit?

    • @therodyman700
      @therodyman700 6 років тому +44

      don't get me wrong, it's really good but fuck man

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 6 років тому +13

      therodyman700 A mix of chlorine and LSD in their coffee every morning

  • @rossjones3561
    @rossjones3561 6 років тому +188

    The dwemer can't have zero summed because zero summing would completely wipe everything they had achieved out of history. Meaning there would be no dwemer or dwemer ruins. No Numidium either.

    • @matthewwright7176
      @matthewwright7176 6 років тому +6

      Ross Jones So you’re saying if Vivec zero summed his city would disappear?

    • @rossjones3561
      @rossjones3561 6 років тому +40

      Yes, all traces of Vivec would disappear. Zero summing is the process of being completely wiped from all history.

    • @InanisNihil
      @InanisNihil 6 років тому +33

      remember arniel gane... he understood what the dwemer did.. he repeated the process.. just on a much much much much smaller scale.. the result.. his body got erased and bound to YOU which was the closet most power magical entity or whatever..
      arniels experiment and result is the closet and only other example in lore... we can not simply ignore this...
      if we just take the results arniel produced and increase them on a large scale...
      it may just mean all the dwemer got their souls bound to a giant angry dwemer plate.. i mean the numidium.. lmao
      i dont think the numidium is a actually conscious thinking being like the dragonborn which is why YOU can summon arneil at will...
      i just believe the dwemer are shit out of luck and bound for eternity to their greatest tool... the brass god.. xb
      basically imagine ur soul bound to ur favorite coffee mug.. xb pretty shitty way to live if u can even call that living...

    • @Felahliir
      @Felahliir 6 років тому +14

      Maaquchi
      The Anumidium, is a god, and all TES gods are “uncunscious” in a way.
      As for the fate of the dwemer, they became the Anumidium’s skin, a sort of metaphor for what it looks like.
      They wanted divinity and they got it from fusing with a god. And said god is made to sat NO to existence. They zero summed in a way, probably breaking linear time first and then zero summing so that the Anumidium would negate itself, otherwise you can’t negate existance if you don’t exist. Then the Anumidium negated it’s negation and came back, got destroyed in a way and lost it’s dwemer over soul, becoming the Numidium. The heart also stayed in Red Mountain during these events, as it needed to exist for the Anumidium not to. Then Tiber Septim made the Mantella, a fake Heart of Lorkhan, used the Numidium who now just broke reality because it glitched since it has no programmed purpose now. The they broke it again or it made itself disappear or something. Thereafter Dagoth made Akhulakan, the last Numidium, but never got actibated.

    • @epion660
      @epion660 6 років тому +21

      A good way to explain it would be: If there was a race in the Elder Scrolls that zero summed, we'd never know.

  • @Guntherson220
    @Guntherson220 6 років тому +33

    Here's what I think happened to the Dwemer just before the last hit:
    Heart of Lorkan: Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung the Dwemer far into the future.

  • @JXEditor
    @JXEditor 6 років тому +74

    I actually thought the Island of Falskaar was itself a Numidium, before i was disappointed by the ending.

    • @GamerGeekThug
      @GamerGeekThug 4 роки тому +29

      The ending of that mod is so forgettable and anticlimactic.

  • @christopherhendrix4604
    @christopherhendrix4604 6 років тому +42

    Wow, I was just hoping you guys would cover this. I love everything involving the Dwemer

  • @Doubleranged1
    @Doubleranged1 6 років тому +161

    Loved the video. Can you do a theory about the tones of the Elder Scrolls universe. You got Tonal Architecture, Shouting, Blade-singing, the humming of the Ancestor Moth and the Dancing on the Tower by the Marukhati Selectives. All these "magics" are unrelated to Sun and stars and therefore normal magic. Are they Dawn Magic? Why are they all referrencing music or sound somehow. Why do they all require some for of trancendence of the user? Why are the main users of all of these Techniques almost gone? Why seem all these techniques to operate outside the influence of the gods, or even trancending them? It is speculated that Lorkhan created Mundus to allow beings to achieve CHIM and that the original spirits can never reach it, for they can't see their own limitations. Maybe these techniques has a relation with that?
    It seems there is a connection here between Dawn "Magic", or whatever you want to call these reality warping abilities and tones, music and vibrations.

    • @lukaskofler2763
      @lukaskofler2763 6 років тому +15

      The laws of the world or the "earth-bones" are the gods who completly gave themselves to creation and became one with munds. These basic laws are manifested in subtle tones and chimes. For example shouting is focusing and using these fundermental tones. The dwemer on the other hand dont use but alter and defile the original tone with their tonal architecture in order to fit to their applicatiins.

    • @martijnkwant5314
      @martijnkwant5314 6 років тому +14

      @Doubleranged
      Shouting is tonal architecture I belief.. Your bending and changing the very laws of the world itself at will.. I belief the Numidium is taking shouting to the extreme.. And Blade-Singers summon a powerful sword using their own very willpower.. Its effeciency depending on the will of the summoner, a powerful sword singer can create the most powerful swords at will able to cut through anything it touches..
      So I imagine that again is something similiar to tonal architecture.. You have to imagine the entire universe of the Elder Scrolls a song and if you have powerful enough willpower you can try to insert notes yourself instead of just singing along and doing so might bring you great benifits.. It isn't magic, because in a sense your bending reality itself instead of channeling magicka from Aetherius..
      Your last part is interesting though.. I do agree with it.. I always thought the same and the argument can be made from the lore perspective as well.. Since important people like Vivec had similiar perspectives on Lorkhan his "betrayal"..

  • @DrFranklynAnderson
    @DrFranklynAnderson 6 років тому +32

    The Numidium vs Liberty Prime-now _there’s_ a battle I want to see!

    • @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin
      @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin 6 років тому +17

      A big robot vs. a god who's so powerful and unstable that turning it on causes reality itself to break.
      Gee, I wonder who would win.

    • @DrFranklynAnderson
      @DrFranklynAnderson 6 років тому +5

      Sergei Ivanovich Mosin But a big robot with NUKES! ☢️😉

    • @lackofcreativity4829
      @lackofcreativity4829 6 років тому +6

      Ya plus the god can’t turn on so it can defend/attack

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 років тому +1

      More like Numidium vs Mazinger Z, the black steel fortress, avatar of Zeus and potential universal threat. The Numidium is to Liberty Prime what Mazinger Zero is to Gundam.

    • @JackCeck
      @JackCeck 5 років тому +2

      Liberty Prime would be erased from existence.Maybe literally

  • @Servellion
    @Servellion 6 років тому +58

    4:46
    Vivec: I reject your reality and substitute my own.

  • @justinjohnson6481
    @justinjohnson6481 2 роки тому +17

    The Numidian sent the Dwemer to the other side of the fourth wall, they then created Bethesda softworks to tell their story, teach us their lore so that one day the chosen one will put the pieces together and return them to Tamriel.

    • @crashlag420
      @crashlag420 9 місяців тому

      Sounds like a hell of a plot for a movie/series

  • @heimheim3584
    @heimheim3584 6 років тому +268

    Gotta take a break from preaching so I can watch this video.

  • @imbored7824
    @imbored7824 6 років тому +105

    I feel like the Dwemer could just dominate the world with their advanced tech and magic

    • @prince_nocturne
      @prince_nocturne 6 років тому +20

      They kinda did for a while. I really hope they come back some day in a future game. Like, the revival of the Dwemer suddenly reappearing, doing everything to reclaim their place as top dogs of Tamriel. Would be really interesting. Bethesda could introduce a ton of steampunk and manapunk stuff into it, too. New weapons, new armors, new magics, maybe new FORMS of magics. Would be kind of cool.

    • @acloserlook5823
      @acloserlook5823 6 років тому +16

      @@prince_nocturne quit giving them ideas for lootboxes!

    • @prince_nocturne
      @prince_nocturne 6 років тому +11

      @@acloserlook5823 The moment I see a loot box in a Bethesda game, I'm out. I prefer the big chunks of DLC they do, and leave th e 'loot box' style stuff to modders. It's a better model and they print money as it is right now.

    • @baneblackguard584
      @baneblackguard584 6 років тому +19

      they were technologically advanced but it didn't really give them much advantage over the traditional magic. their weapons and armor were very good quality for normal everyday equipment, but it didn't have advantage over the magic being used by other races. Had they focused their efforts on devising ways to conquer the world they likely could have done it, but that's not where their interest was. they were interested in understanding the world so they could escape it. Understand that Mer in general accept that they are trapped here by virtue of Lorkan's treachery. The driving force of Dwemer science and technology was to find a way to overcome what Lorkan did. They saw themselves as subdivisions of one of the original eternal spirits that was tricked by Lorkan. (as a sidenote I suspect that narrative by the Mer is mistaken. I suspect they, and all mortals, are part of Lorkan. Residue left over when the Aedra tore Lorkan asunder. Perhaps this is the real secret to Dwemer technology, they finally understood that Lorkan isn't the great enemy, THEY are Lorkan.)

    • @blazednlovinit
      @blazednlovinit 4 роки тому

      Daedric princes would undermine them if they got too strong, Dwemer are boring from a daedric prince perspective.

  • @tellthetale7421
    @tellthetale7421 3 роки тому +9

    I feel like the dwemer did one of two things, really ascended to godhood, or, realized they couldn’t ascend to godhood, so they did the next best thing, made themselves immortal by turning themselves into machines

    • @Puget55
      @Puget55 Рік тому

      In the wiki it's said that they melt into the skin of the Numidum. As the Numidium is a god they kinda become one

  • @pugking1233
    @pugking1233 6 років тому +10

    Thanks for posting this video I had to get up really early for a school trip and I'm happy I found something nice to watch on the way there

  • @Mysterialic
    @Mysterialic 6 років тому +51

    The Church of the Broken God approves of this message.

  • @etherraichu
    @etherraichu 5 років тому +31

    So the Dwemer basically made an Evangelion and tried to cause Third Impact.

  • @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin
    @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin 6 років тому +37

    The other theory is that when the Numidium (by the way, the original Numidiums "name" is Walk-Brass, just to differentiate it from the other Numidium) was first activated the Dwemer didn't exactly zero-sum, but turned into the "brass skin" of the Numidium; this pretty much means their souls were all turned into one soul, that being the soul of the Numidium, and the Numidium ultimately is an entire race of math wizards constantly arguing with each other. Whenever Numidium is activated, the collective autism of an entire race REEEE's at reality so hard they always cause a dragon break or potentially a zero-sum in the case of C0DA (if you consider C0DA canon of course).
    Also, if you do consider C0DA canon, than the Numidium wasn't destroyed during the warp of the west, but was simply lost in time and will return in the 5th era to cause Landfall, an event where he essentially cause Nirn itself to zero-sum, leaving Dunmer and Khajiits as the only races living on Masser (one of the moons, ei, Lorkhan's corpse) until it is eventually killed by the Dunmer Jubal in a debate, where he basically screams "no u!" so hard it cuts off Walk-Brass's head.
    Yeah, Elder Scrolls lore gets kinda weird when Kirkbride gets involved, whole thing is the semi-lucid ramblings of a severely drugged up man.

    • @Todesritter500
      @Todesritter500 5 років тому

      thanks for pointing out what he already said in the video + adding some bullshit to it

    • @piotrmalewski8178
      @piotrmalewski8178 4 роки тому +5

      There is a simplier explanation. Yagrum, or however exactly is he called in the Morrowind, claims (if you give him the right books), that Kagrenac was simply wrong in his theories. This fits what Vivek says, that he doesn't sense Dwemer's presence in any reality. Thus, Numidium is just a giant robot that got wrecked and forgotten, while Kagrenac simply screwed up and unintentionally annihilated his race misusing the Heart and the tools.

  • @doctordungus7774
    @doctordungus7774 6 років тому +22

    Now I need to go listen to Dagothwave.

  • @yonah6632
    @yonah6632 6 років тому +2

    These videos are incredible. Takes the whole Elder Scrolls UA-cam videos to a whole other level.

  • @steakcrust558
    @steakcrust558 6 років тому

    im happy someone stuck around with all the lore to piece it together. over 3 games ive got roughly 1/4 of the story. you fill in the gaps every time

  • @kieran6417
    @kieran6417 6 років тому +27

    Been waiting for this one

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking 6 років тому +28

    Thats the funny thing about existance, it doesn't matter what tells you you don't exist, because at the vary least you exist to yourself.

    • @elogee_yt
      @elogee_yt 6 років тому +15

      This guy CHIMs

    • @baneblackguard584
      @baneblackguard584 6 років тому

      But what if you don't exist and you are just a figment of your own imagination...

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 6 років тому +7

      Bane BlackGuard - how can I imagine if I don't exist in some capacity?

    • @baneblackguard584
      @baneblackguard584 6 років тому +1

      in your own imagination. the very definition of god. all that exists does so on a thought. everything is a figment of your own imagination. including you. nothing existed before you.

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 6 років тому +8

      Bane BlackGuard - just because nothing existed before i did doesn't mean I don't exist, it simply means that I exist now and not then.

  • @joking_oregon1
    @joking_oregon1 4 роки тому +4

    I don't think the Dwemer Zero-Summed as Lord Zelfmoord mentioned to Zero Sum is to be erased from past, present, and future in the godhead's dream, but there's still plenty of evidence that the Dwemer once roamed Tamriel, Yagrum Bagarn himself still existed after the battle of red mountain. Falion mentioned hes met the Dwemer, and Arniel Gane's experiment resulted in him being summonable meaning that himself, and the Dwemer are likely in some plane of Oblivion perhaps, theres also a spell that allows the last dragonborn to summon Dwemer machines, conjuration in the elder scrolls isnt creating but pulling an entity from a plane of Oblivion such as the atronachs, so that means if Arniel Gane, and the Dwemer Machines can be pulled from a plane of Oblivion then that means the Dwemer are likely there somewhere perhaps.

  • @mudo6633
    @mudo6633 6 років тому +15

    Fudgemuppet please it’s 5 in the morning

  • @Randy_Flamethrower
    @Randy_Flamethrower 6 років тому

    THANK YOU FOR THIS. You guys sincerely listen to your fan base and give us the content we ask for. It is very much appreciated. Keep up the great work guys!

  • @greglancaster9053
    @greglancaster9053 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for another fantastic video! This one is one of my favorites, as I find the Dwemer so fascinating. I hope they feature prominently and profoundly in a future Elder Scrolls game. Looking at you, ES VI!

  • @johnkubiak1154
    @johnkubiak1154 3 роки тому +3

    The dwemer realized they were in a video game, achieved chim and loaded into real life and started working for NASA.

  • @gromashtheunsettled2561
    @gromashtheunsettled2561 4 роки тому +1

    Tiber Septims tribute from the dark elves was a giant robot with no battery and no remote control. Zurin Arctus "I got you fam." Teleports to best buy...

  • @Simaklein
    @Simaklein 6 років тому +16

    My theory: the dwemmer are the representatives of the developers at bethesda. The songs of the stonemasons is the code in which tes is programmed according to the elder scrolls which are the thoughts and ideas of everybody working with or on e game, even modders and i see the graphic and other designers as the metalworkers. when the game was done they stopped to exist because they released the game into the world and even if there are patches the people producing them are not seen in the game because their work is done and modders spent their time testing and programming so they aren’t part of the actual gameplay either, at that moment. The falmer are players forced by bethesda to consume the game becomming blind to the real world because they spend all their time gaming. The giants could represent other gaming companies which called them dwarfish because they were much bigger and thought singleplayers are dead XD. This just crossed my mind and it is not a full blown theory but i know how many developers like the tinkering dwarfs and identify highly with them.

    • @octaviosander8898
      @octaviosander8898 4 роки тому +1

      Kinda sad the biggest mystery of the series being an internal joke

  • @TheWhiteDragon3
    @TheWhiteDragon3 4 роки тому +5

    I have a hard time believing that the *entire* race of Dwemer zero-summed (if that is actually what happened to them). The Dwemer were consistently described by their counterparts as arrogant and egocentric, arrogant enough to deny the worthiness of the gods to wield their divinity. I truly do believe that at least some of the Dwemer were able to achieve Chim, and they "vanished" alongside their countrymen who couldn't achieve Chim, though differently. The Dwemer who achieved Chim probably vanished in the same way that Tiber Septim "vanished", a.k.a. they didn't see any point in interacting with Mundus anymore. Seeing as the Dwemer are a more logical race than the races of man, it would make sense that the Dwemer would come to this conclusion much more quickly than Tiber Septim and "vanish" from Mundus in an instance. This is one explanation as to how Falion was able to contact the Dwemer as he ventured through Aetherius and Oblivion.

  • @treemane0
    @treemane0 6 років тому +2

    You don't know how long I've waited for this to be fugemuppeterized

  • @alexc5626
    @alexc5626 6 років тому +26

    But if the Dwemer Zero-summed, wouldn't every trace of them including their cities and machines be erased?

    • @sparticusfinch8588
      @sparticusfinch8588 6 років тому +2

      Their stuff still exists because other races knew that it did, so it wouldn't disappear for everyone else.

    • @TheZebinator
      @TheZebinator 6 років тому +6

      @Matheus Moreira yep, like that fact that before Talos became a god and chim'ed Cyrodil was a jungle but he made it so that it was never a jungle, basically removing the jungles of Cyrodil from now, the future and the past, in this timeline they never existed but in the timeline that Talos was originally from they did exist, in a weird way chiming makes a new timeline/parallel universe

    • @odd-eyes6363
      @odd-eyes6363 5 років тому +3

      @@TheZebinator it doesn't make any parallel worlds or timelines, it changes the one you're currently in

    • @DragonWinter36
      @DragonWinter36 4 роки тому +1

      Presumably, only the living Dwemer zero-summed

  • @stevengreen9536
    @stevengreen9536 4 роки тому +3

    I think the dwarves got sent to another dimension.But they are stuck because they lack the tools and the resources to return.That is my theory anyway.

  • @nazeem8086
    @nazeem8086 6 років тому +68

    When are you gonna talk about the strongest god there is? *Nazeem*

    • @TheReddShinobi13
      @TheReddShinobi13 5 років тому +19

      Only the one true god could get to the cloud district very often.

    • @randomcomment7583
      @randomcomment7583 5 років тому +5

      Fuck you Nazeem.

    • @randomgamer239
      @randomgamer239 5 років тому +5

      The god of getting killed

    • @UwU-xk5cx
      @UwU-xk5cx 5 років тому +11

      Daedric prince of ego, his oblivion plain is called the cloud district, the plain is described as a horrible nordic city full of highly egocentric and powerful lesser daedras called braiths, his only known artefact is the jarls ball licker, an all mighty tongue capable of leveling the speechcraft of the mortals when speaking to the most important people

    • @Gadrius
      @Gadrius 4 роки тому +8

      His shrine is represented by the shape of a Jarl's backside.

  • @jarredpossum7725
    @jarredpossum7725 4 роки тому

    Oh my gods, thank you. This really helped me to understand the plot of Daggerfall, and the warp of the west. I’ve never played the old games so thank you for putting lore into ways people can easily understand. 👌

  • @JL-cy4yj
    @JL-cy4yj 6 років тому

    I love the video but I am really liking your choice to have a cold opening and ending it is rather a breath of fresh air when you are not just bombarded from the start.

  • @lukaskofler2763
    @lukaskofler2763 6 років тому +2

    I think that the dwemer were successful in their endeavor and fused with the numidium, essentially becoming its hide and therefore the final component. The Numidium or brass tower is a materialized contradiction, a being which both stabilizes the world and renders it apart. If it should ever reappear and be effectively activated the laws or bones of the earth will shatter completely and the mortal world mundus will be most propably unmade entirely thus achievind the dwemers ultimate goal. From a Nirn-Inhabitant point of view only a fool wishes them back.

  • @acutosan7335
    @acutosan7335 4 роки тому +1

    If the numidium wasn't destroyed. The original pre war white gold concordat would have been torn apart and the numidium stomping into alinor

  • @DISTurbedwaffle918
    @DISTurbedwaffle918 4 роки тому +2

    "Cogito sed non sum." -Dwemer, seconds before failing to *CHIM.*

  • @Gearheadlights
    @Gearheadlights 6 років тому +16

    More dwemer stuff, awesome!

  • @danieliniguez9968
    @danieliniguez9968 4 роки тому +1

    I think the dwemer might be the only one worth ever creating a mini series on some platform like Netflix, or something. Damn it would be great

  • @akumavalentine
    @akumavalentine 6 років тому

    Man, I forgot how good these lore videos are, but now I’m binging them and I can’t stop lmao~

  • @SenketsuFi
    @SenketsuFi 5 років тому +1

    The dwemer.. The vulcans of elder scrolls...
    Dwemer nerve pinch caused their vanishing
    "Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, they were the least.... [voice breaks] elvish."

  • @SUPERSPARTAN992
    @SUPERSPARTAN992 5 років тому +2

    When, thanks to FudgeMuppet, you know more about Elder Scrolls lore than actual history

  • @zuttoaragi8349
    @zuttoaragi8349 5 років тому +2

    Video actually begins at 0:15.

    • @reviewers183
      @reviewers183 Місяць тому

      LOL the whole time I was thinking : “nice pipes”

  • @bannanaskin666plays9
    @bannanaskin666plays9 6 років тому

    YES YES YES...I WAITED 2 DAYS TO WATCH THIS.i saw it got uploaded but I didn't have time to watch it so I was left with no internet....the wait was so worth it!!!!!!

  • @PyroSirBrad
    @PyroSirBrad 4 роки тому +1

    I think two things happened.
    1. They got sent forward in time into a different era. So we'll see them again but not anytime soon unless we do a mega time skip or we go forward in time in a mission.
    2. They're in a pocket dimension by a pissed off God.

  • @suprento2236
    @suprento2236 4 роки тому +2

    Couldn't you use the elder scrolls to contact or return the dwemer to mundus? Yes I know that knowledge on the potential of the scrolls was tapped into by said dwemer and their archives were lost to the ages, but that's the point, they figured out how to study the scrolls using their machines and said machines are still around.

  • @paulzulys5797
    @paulzulys5797 6 років тому +3

    For some reason, I feel like the dwemer culture might have an even more major appearance in tes 6.

  • @theherbman2101
    @theherbman2101 3 роки тому +1

    Before one understands why the dwemer aren't in the games they want them back, but when one does more research of why exactly they are absent, one sort of appreciates the fact they're gone. After all, how can something continue to exist when it realizes all that it is was nothing but a dream?

  • @depressedkiddo4994
    @depressedkiddo4994 6 років тому +23

    I cant be the only one here that despise the dwemer for making me go through these ruins

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 6 років тому +4

      The one on Solstheim that you have to go through for the main quest isn't so bad, but that's more because of Neloth and the fact that there aren't any Falmer.

    • @PivotAngelic
      @PivotAngelic 6 років тому +1

      dude thats the one I hate the most!!! wuuuuuuuuuttt

    • @d.dthedumpsterofdemolition6128
      @d.dthedumpsterofdemolition6128 6 років тому

      @@Janoha17 ES3 Dwemer ruins were the absolute worst

    • @user-ys3jq3uf4p
      @user-ys3jq3uf4p 4 роки тому

      Kagrumez is the best one

  • @kobestevens6910
    @kobestevens6910 6 років тому +5

    The dwemner might have been cast forward in time like alduin was

  • @MetalMutant
    @MetalMutant Рік тому +1

    The dwemer knew they're just a script, written at the 3am.

  • @AdmiralAwsm
    @AdmiralAwsm 4 роки тому +1

    So the Dwemer basically Instrumentality'd themselves into a single, god-like consciousness housed in a bio-mechanical mecha?

  • @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773
    @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 6 років тому +1

    I love the Dwemer so much! This video explains them and the Numidium perfectly! I hope they return in a future game! :)

  • @ADrunkCrayfish
    @ADrunkCrayfish 4 роки тому +1

    I would love an elder scrolls spinoff where it takes place around the time the dwemer were still around.

  • @fallingfloor6924
    @fallingfloor6924 5 років тому +1

    I understand you point on zero sum but i think the dwarves ascended. In Mournhold ruins in the Morrowind game there are dwarven ash piles. I think they ascended leaving their bodies behind.

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis 4 роки тому +1

    The Dwemer accidentally became Numidium's skin.
    They basically accidentally did mantling in reverse.
    Instead of the Dwemer wearing Lorkhan like a second skin to become them, they forced Numidium to wear the Dwemer Race as its skin.
    This didn't work out the way they intended.

  • @link01742
    @link01742 4 роки тому +1

    If God does not exist it would be necessary to invent him

  • @johnclement189
    @johnclement189 2 роки тому +1

    They reminded me of the Imperium on 40k on point, when they actually focused on technology, reasoning and scientific knowledge rather than worship and they knew that Gods exist but they don't care about them.

  • @blazednlovinit
    @blazednlovinit 4 роки тому +1

    If the Dwemer zero summed... wouldn't all their ruins zero-sum with them? Zero sum is your entire history removed from the timeline.

  • @197XSK
    @197XSK 4 роки тому

    Thanks for explaining the Mantella Effect.

  • @ptownspazz7587
    @ptownspazz7587 6 років тому +3

    It'll come back. A certain Daidra Prince knows how/where. And the souls of many Dragons will power it. Maybe. That'd be cool

  • @sauercrowder
    @sauercrowder 4 роки тому +1

    I don't love the use of a scaled up centurion to represent the numidium. Idk about canon, but I imagine it being much larger and I guess... more visually striking than that. I don't like the idea of it being basically the same as a centurion.

  • @ryanrizzo4869
    @ryanrizzo4869 4 роки тому +1

    "Neg el zud la bec--!"-Dwemer slang for "Dude, don't strike that hea...!!"

  • @denzilhill994
    @denzilhill994 5 років тому

    Your lore videos are the best bar none i have just come across your channel not long ago and have binge watched your videos kind of hard to push through all the click bate channels like eso but to find this channel thats all worth it

  • @abyss9316
    @abyss9316 3 роки тому

    ZURIN ARCTUS/THE UNDERKING
    Probably the most underrated and unknown and most pivotal characters in the history of the Elder Scrolls

  • @OGXenos
    @OGXenos 5 років тому

    Imagine making something so unbelievably powerful that literally just turning it on shatters all of fucking reality until it gets turned off again

  • @rdEye-jm8he
    @rdEye-jm8he 3 роки тому +1

    I think not even Bethesda knows what happened to them, how come the tribunal literally did the same thing as the dwemer and they were still arround after that?
    I think they were punished by azura and trapped in some other dimension for ever.

  • @alcalujo.l.7001
    @alcalujo.l.7001 4 роки тому +2

    The Numidium reminds me of the end of Evangelion when the entire humanity became LCL

    • @ToAkralon
      @ToAkralon 3 роки тому

      Kôzô Fuyutsuki: When Man created Evangelion, were we trying to create a clone of God?
      Yui Ikari: Of course.
      Yeah it's pretty much the same.

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 6 років тому +2

    The only thing I've always wondered is how big the Numidium is. I'm assuming final boss of Shadow of the Colossus big or it surely would have been able to be contained.

    • @emkira2162
      @emkira2162 5 років тому

      Think about this: the game said it was about a thousand feet high. Convert it to kilometers, its about 3.4 kilometers high. So it would be EXTREMELY huge

  • @treemane0
    @treemane0 6 років тому +3

    Thank you fugemuppet!!!!!

  • @roderik4
    @roderik4 6 років тому

    My take is that Kagrenac's experiment, with regards to his plans for the Dwemer race, was a success. What happened to them is almost exactly what he had planned for. What didn't go as planed, probably due to the urgency of his situation at the time, was the powering of the Numidium through Lorkhan's Heart. Thus the Dwemer became the Numidium, only it wasn't turned on until Tiber Septim had control over it. No wonder it was so pissed of in C0da

  • @hiddendesire3076
    @hiddendesire3076 4 роки тому +3

    Not really the last living Dwemer, more so the last Dwemer on the mortal plane of Nirn. The rest of the race still yet lives, trapped in another plane of existence, a mirror of the current world where they are subjected to watch the passage of time as their cities and machines fall to ruin.

    • @warlordgathrik2338
      @warlordgathrik2338 4 роки тому

      Hidden Desire I really really hope Dwemer's return in Elder Scrolls 6 and wipes out other races in an all out war. We can either join them or not. That would be cool.

  • @thegamingpigeon3216
    @thegamingpigeon3216 6 років тому +1

    I've been waiting for this video for a longgggggg time

  • @kaileybarrett6388
    @kaileybarrett6388 6 років тому +2

    That finger snap though 4:59 xD

  • @sirsir9665
    @sirsir9665 Рік тому

    The Dwarfs messed with the Heart and disappeared. Took some balls for the Dark Elves to start messing with it after that

  • @Crispycritter35
    @Crispycritter35 6 років тому +5

    Nothing like diving deep into a dwemer dungeon !!! One of my favorite things to do in TES

    • @epion660
      @epion660 6 років тому +1

      I remember when I first played skyrim, I just adored all things dwemer, the armor, the centurions (which nearly made me shit myself when I hit it for the first time with what I think was a steel sword and doing nothing.) and all the rest.

  • @AkiyamaKatsuko
    @AkiyamaKatsuko 6 років тому +3

    I feel like the Dwemer are actual one of the last evolved humans from the Fallout Universe.

    • @PatGamingApasStyle
      @PatGamingApasStyle 6 років тому

      Holy shiiiiiit!!!

    • @lackofcreativity4829
      @lackofcreativity4829 6 років тому +2

      Wait what if TES is millions of years after the bombs fell and magic/shouts etc were symptoms of radiation

  • @mrl9418
    @mrl9418 6 років тому

    Your vids are very good, congrats. Love the daedrologist the most!

  • @seynkrosis9658
    @seynkrosis9658 6 років тому +2

    Akatosh most likely HATES the Numidium

  • @apologyenthusiast6978
    @apologyenthusiast6978 6 років тому +3

    Could you do a video on why the dwemer machines have faces and who the faces are of?

  • @gavinovillalta1025
    @gavinovillalta1025 6 років тому

    Watching this at school and will continue to do so

  • @shogunender8752
    @shogunender8752 4 роки тому

    I love the history it has with Tiber Septim and morrowind

  • @maxwheatley4497
    @maxwheatley4497 Рік тому

    Your podcasts were my favorite