Being there since closed beta, along for the ride since the beginning, it really hit different It's nice to see it still manages to surprise people though
Yah no new player here....y'all did a bad job with that. I knew almost in the same breath of hearing about the game that they are basically controlled by super kids. I don't care but there is a lot of people in UA-cam who review the game and dont spoiler free much. There are to much imagery and general game play that gives away the sort of state you play in. In my opinion.
@@DaftGlassAlice That's unfortunate, hopefully you see now why you should do your best to keep others from doing the same thing to other new players. However, I think most new players aren't spoiled by the time they get to this point.
@@DaftGlassAlice tbf, quest been out almost a decade, so lot of people don't care about keeping it a secret anymore, especially when even grander quests have been released since then. Like it was gate kept hard somewhere before New War update, but when DE started to market the Operators in official promotional materials, then community also gave up.
@@DaftGlassAlice sorry to hear that man. i hope it was/is still enjoyable to play for you though 👍. And besides it seems warframe isn't done suprising us just yet so u can be surprised together with all the other tenno with future updates.
@@intalek305bro 90% of build showcases someone will muscle memory use the operator before starting. It ain't that deep it's an old game its a YOU issue if you get spoiled.
the hardest part about being a Tenno is knowing how many awesome moments and secrets the game has and trying to convince other people to stick with it cause the only reason you can give is "trust me"
It's honestly so frustrating but also gratifying, keeping this secret. Sometimes you get those people who are all, bro this game has no story, and they haven't even unlocked "Natah" and you don't want to spoil anything so they just burn out and leave - but then there are times when you get players who stick it out and experience the magic that Warframe keeps hidden away - and it's all worth it to experience right along with them.
@@warchildsilver I literally did this twice before cross save came out, back in 2018 I played on ps4 on and off til I got to jupiter, then on pc in 2020 I did the same til Saturn, everyone was telling me I was just around the corner. When they released cross save I figured I'd come back considering DE was releasing the best form of cross save, I realised I literally was just moments away from peak, now I have to play each new expansion content that drops while I slowly get closer to steel path
I wanna be the very best Like no one ever was To catch them is my real test To train them is my cause I will travel across the land Searching far and wide Teach Pokémon to understand The power that's inside
To be perfectly fair. The character creation happened something like 2-3 years in to the game existence. I see it as both way to blow people mind and way to respect everyone who started before it existed.
@@AMythicalTrickster I think miss remembered the time Warframe actually released. But definitely longer then 2-3 years for the close beta guys and early players.
@@AMythicalTricksterIt actually was just a bit under three years. The game released on pc in March of 2013, the Second Dream came along in December of 2015.
Well done, you have officially finished the Warframe tutorial. Now the REAL game begins! And yes, the reason we are called Tenno is because of the ship's name
harrow is still my most fave quest of this game I actually got scared and I surprised myself with that it was so well done and so different to the game you played until then🤣
“Not only is this a mind blowing narrative twist, I’ve never so much as heard a whisper of this.” That’s because the Second Dream is Warframe’s most fiercely guarded spoiler. It was such a game changer and completely rewrote everything we thought we knew about the game up until this moment, everyone in the community collectively decided that under no circumstances is anyone allowed to spoil this particular quest for folks who came along late to the game. It was actually really fortunate that you decided to play solo mostly, because you’d have seen other players’ Tenno long before you got to here.
@@cavemanpretzel9520 Whenever that slips out and someone asks me what that was, I just say "It's something you unlock at the end of the game to make maneuvering easier" and that's it. Most of the time they just get hyped. It's rare someone actually looks at you in detail during the heat of combat, so they don't even notice you pulled out a human form.
@@cavemanpretzel9520 honestlt everytime a new player is in the lobby i always try and use my wellspring away from where they can see me because eventhough they will just be like "tf is that ability" i still dont want to spoil anything
You were 50 hours into the game when you played second dream, know image how some veterans felt when they played it for the first time after hundreds of hours (400 in my case) that felt insane
Imagine those of us that have been around since the beginning. I can't quite make that claim, but do come close. A friend that no longer plays was a founder, got me started back in 2013. I've seen at least three different intro missions.
Imagine meeting Steve at TennoVIP 2015 in Germany where he's drunk as hell trying not to spoil this 😂 I was so blessed to come across this game for real
As a Destiny player myself, I remember constantly comparing the two games to each other up until I got to the second dream. That's when I realized they were not on the same level and can't really be compared at all with how different they are. Warframe community and game itself is such a wonderful experience and so glad I've been part of it for years now. And probably still many years to come.
The second dream really is a master class example of a really well done twist. The gameplay and narrative buildup, the time and investment it takes, and the fact that it's a secret mostly kept hidden by the community at Large. And the crazy part is, despite this high note, it just keeps getting better. Though this reveal has stuck in my memory that's one of the most impactful video game experiences I've had.
That line “cleave it, beating from its nest” will always give me chills. This quest was sooooooo awesome. I hype up all of my friends playing the game for the first time
Some cool things about The Second Dream; When you take on the first Sentient Battalyst, that originally used to be a lot, lot harder. It was a full on surprise boss fight as the thing would quickly gain 90% damage reduction against any damage you dealt to it. So players would often fail that part of the mission, have to redo it with more Elements modded on their weapons to keep dealing damage, and so DE eventually reduced the effective health of Battalysts (and Sentient enemies in general) to make it more fair. If you go for long enough without finding Hunhow's bones in the underwater Archwing section, Alad V gets bored and just marks them for you. I witnessed a player not realise that you can attack after the big reveal and they patiently walked their way through the rest of the mission getting shot at and attacked, but never fighting back, because they didn't read the on-screen instructions. It was originally planned for the Warframe you used for the Quest to suffer a permanent 'damage' decal from where the sword was torn out, and at the last minute DE changed their minds and instead gave players a Sigil you can put on your frame that looks like a burning scar. (This was so they could make the Quest replayable for people to check out all the details again.) And lastly, the Community in general like to keep the ending of the Quest as a spoiler because they don't want the rest of the Gaming world to know that DE literally cast all their players as whiny children ^^
Yeah, my fight against this thing (back when the quest was brand new) was won pretty much purely thanks to me using Valkyr at the time, allowing me to kill the damn thing slowly, 10 health at a time while healing myself... it was a horrifying moment to discover that my Opticor, THE oneshot machine at the time, barely scratched the damn thing
Just remember everyone who told you to play dit not spoil it for you because it is so beautiful to feel the game and Warframe is one of the most beautiful game to do this special this Quest and a couple other ones enjoy how we all dit en love the game even after so so many years good luck tenno now it's also your responsibility to keep the secret
Years of vet plays before this first cinematic of hundreds of hours is a plus reason for me as well,just to honor ,I did not get to experience it that way but I respect it to be the amazing I will never see
Thank the Clerisy, you did not put spoilers into thumbnail or title. Bless you for giving Warframe so much love and appreciation for all the little unique quirks and corners it has. It's genuinely exciting to watch every minute of you going through the dreamer's journey!
I remember when i started Warframe my buddies did not spoil anything for me either. I was like, "yo wtf is that!" When my operator grabbed my frame, and my buddies muted their mics to savour it for me. Years later i was getting more friends into Warframe and did the exact same for them too. The second dream is the best kept secret in gaming imo 😂
And that's why I refer to new players as Dreamers. It doesn't really set off any alarm bells for spoilers, and Nora Nightwave uses it in game already. Congrats on waking up, and welcome to the cinematic arc of Warframe!
I always thought it was neat that Hunhow describes itself as a "sentient destroyer of worlds" but what that actually means is "self-aware terraforming machine", it's just like their own internalization of what they are and what they were built for
He picked up the best School in my opinion for beginners. Energy regeneration from zenurik when you don't have anything else to regenerate energy is a game changer, you can use your abilities more often. And later you can change school because you are having other energy sources like Energize Arcane and other stuff.
No longer as fundamental since they give all new players a Dreamer's Bond aura (half a Rejuvenation, half an Energy Siphon). I mean, still wonderful, but it's no longer the only one new players should consider starting with.
@@dvdfrsr True but it is still nice to start with especially Combining it with Dreamer's bond. besides it's like weaker version of Rejuv and Engergy siphon which is fair as it gives both and isn't stuck to 1 polarity :P
It’s so fun to see someone relive experiencing this for so long. Warframe is the internets best kept secret, community is unreal. So happy to be a vet at the game
As someone who's been playing since early 2014, this quest hit super hard as I had almost 1000 hours in the game at the time. Mind was absolutely blown to say the least
"Warframe is the internet's best kept secret" is something we hear around and its for a reason Not everyone knows about the game in a first place, a lot of people never reach the highs of this game, but its all a secret nonetheless! Congratulations on waking up from your second dream 🎉
Congrats on completing the tutorial! Now dont for a second think there arent any other mindblowing surprises to come, youre just at the tip of the iceberg now. Also the narrative goes into overdrive from this point onwards. Im hyped to watch you experience this gem going forward. And yes, the community is absolutely tight lipped about this reveal. The story and how it hits is borderline magical when it comes to videogame experiences. Its something the community collectively goes out of its way to keep hidden as not to spoil it, the most you will hear from people to draw new players in is 'the story is insane' and 'wait till you hit the second dream quest'. And it always hits people hard as the story is 'eh' at best until this point and after 50+ hours of people going 'its alright' to being walloped by this masterpiece just hits hard, we play games for experiences, the reason this community is so good is because of the immense experience this game provides, and we as gamers, want others to feel the greatness of this unique experience.
Man I remember pre second dream days. Then I remember everyone blind playing this the first time. It's still fiendeshly beautiful, even all these years later.
Congratulations on beating the Tutorial. Margulis was an Orokin Archimedean. Essentially a high ranking scientist. She was like a mother to the Tenno after they were recovered, but as Lotus says, the Orokin were scared of the Tenno. They wanted to kill them. Margulis stood in their way so they killed her, but they used her research to develop Transference which let the Tenno project their minds into the Warframes which could channel their abilities better with less risk. This is not spoilers, its just a recap of some of the information at the end of the quest.
This was THE quest that made me fall in love with Warframe. The Tenno being awaken, Lotus words and the beautiful OST... A true masterpiece. It gave me the chills watching this video.
39:00 Story is more complicated, complex and beautiful than this "little secret". As a veteran player of Warframe, I really respect lore of the game and every player should experience in own way.
Fr i remember playing for the first time and had the same reaction, "wtf is going on" but the more you play the more it feeds and in the end your left amazed
I love that you are sharing the story. Unfortunately when I played it through, I went so fast. I missed so much. But I have to say the funniest thing so far is when you said, “no! I worked so hard on that fashion!” Also, Warframe exists almost as a large cult. It is massively popular amongst players but not amongst the gaming media. Follow the money. The developers focus all their money into building the game. Let that sink in.
YEEES! I'm SO happy you enjoyed the quest!! And thank you- hearing you say what you did about the community keeping the secret of that quest so well put a big smile on my face. As a Vet, we tend to take a lot of care & pride in making sure everyone, especially new players, get the BEST experience possible out of that quest line.. and it pays off seeing the joyful, surprised expressions on peoples' faces. Hope to catch you in the Origin system sometime Tenno! Welcome, the party has JUST begun.
I hate that this quest doesn't hit the same for newbies because they didn't have to wait YEARS for it to release, making theories and questioning what the fuck is a warframe and how does it work
So I started playing in 2015 (June 22nd a little before equinox/movement 2.0/natah quest) and after acquiring my like my 3rd frame I started have a hunch that this warframe stuff was kind of matrix-like. What I mean by that is I felt at that point like ok there’s got to be more to this than lotus just commanding me to go do this and that and I just take whatever frame and go. Like what am I? Oh could it be that someone human is controlling the frames from somewhere? Maybe I’m “jacked-in” like the matrix. Then being captured by the gustrag 3 having to use a different frame until I got that one back pretty much made me settle on that theory which made the second dream an even better experience for me bc I was surprised to find I was somewhat right in that context
its cool watching people play it for themselves and they notice different things to you, like where the name "Tenno" came from, that completely crossed my mind when i was doing the quest. Coincidentally enough, its almost like im progressing warframe with mactics rn, its weirdly cool in a way. such a good game
It took years for early players to get to this quest. We knew the Lotus as Spacemom, I'll admit I cried a bit during this quest. Things were overwhelming. "I worked so hard on that fashion, bro" got me to chuckle ;)
This is the questline that made me go from really liking Warframe, to absolutely adoring it- and it would turn out to not even be my favorite one later on. I mean seriously, what other game has the guts or ambition to put a big reveal that recontextualizes everything before it not only behind 50-100 hours of playtime, but also have it just be the start of the REAL story? In today's gaming industry, that's something incredibly damn special.
Second Dream is what made me start caring about Warframe. I got bored of the gameplay loop while my friend were racking up hundreds into thousands of hours. I just couldn't get into the grind. Then they convinced me to play Second Dream, and I fell in love with it. I'm still a slacker when it comes to the grinds in the game, but I will almost always log in on patch day for whatever new story, quest or event has come out.
I really love seeing someone actually take their time and enjoy Warframe as a whole, seeing things for the first time within the game and experiencing the story and how fun you can make it.
Mannn, this video gave me flashbacks to yesteryear, when I barely knew how to find the modding interface 😭 Epic job dude, may your relationship with Warframe be long and fruitful.
@@renehoyvikUno Card - Ivara parts are behind C rotations in Spy. They still need to learn spy ( We do not count Ivara Prime, that's cheating ... a bit ... )
Congrats on finishing the warframe tutorial! 😀 I wonder if this will be one of your most viewed videos... hard to resist watching someone experience this. 🙂
The release of the Second Dream was so crazy for us. Before that, we played for 2 years with just tiny bits of story, and suddenly we are hit with actual clear lore, cinematics and new options. Rebbeca Ford (back then, community manager, now CEO of Warframe) said something like "Player are great at telling you that they are bored, but not why. So story progression was our idea to give them meaning in their actions." - I think that is part of the NoClip documentary, very worth watching!
Oh my... given how much you love Spy missions, you're going to kick out once you find out about Ivara with her Infiltrate Augment, or about how Wukong's Ability (Cloud Walker) completely bypasses them... Edit to add: Congrats on finishing the Tutorial!
@@Thaylien Thought you were going to say something else there. "You're going to love finding Ivara's chassis on Pavlov, Lua's spy mission." (In sarcastic tone)
Dude, as someone who played and who still plays warframe for years, thanks for bringing back so many good memories about the stuff I can't do again anymore. I'm really excited about your progress within the game and cheering for your next discoveries!
Bro this was a treat to watch, being able to experience it all AGAIN through someone else and seeing them enjoy it, i cant wait for you to learn more and dive deeper into the story
Yeah, one thing you have to remember is stuff like this came after we had been playing for years. If it was mind-blowing for you being 50 hours in, imagine people's world turned upside down after years of thinking something, haha. And regarding keeping the secret, yeah, this and FFXIV have some of the best communities on that regard. Amazing twists throughout both stories that are a joy to see someone else's mind also get blow when they experience them for the first time too.
When I first did this quest, (10 yr legend 1 now) this game had almost no plot. This quest, even now, is the only game experience that brought me to tears. Before this quest the entire game was "Space ninja go BRRRRRRR". The longer you have played this game without doing the quest, the harder the quest hits you. I had been playing for years.
If you go back, the mainline questing kinda starts with Stolen Dreams, but only via hindsight... All is silent and calm. Hushed and empty is the womb of the sky. Then The New Strange is the followup with the rogue frame killing those that had previous involvement with the arcane codeces, ending at an arcane machine with a projection of a sentient relic above it. Now with TSD, players heads to the womb of the sky to rescue themselves, while worrying about the sentients.
I loved watching this. It's such a great punch-up for the story and the community waited years for this to come together. It was worth the wait and it's cool to see someone fresh see and also feel it. Welcome Tenno.
@@GravitonLance well he plays alot and gets gifted alot. The relic pack gifts got him over 300 axi so he doesn't need to grind warframe relics. And 150 aya too. Basically made the grind easier by a ton
Sup Mactics! Bro I was a destiny player since the beginning. Loved it but got bored with it...then I found Warframe. Loved it and quickly became addicted. Couldn't believe I hadn't gotten onboard sooner. Played every chance I could get on a mission to try to get up to current content. But the pre release hype of final shape drew me back to destiny. That's when I started following you on UA-cam for tips on improving my destiny gaming. Love your content. Now, seeing you go through the early parts of warframe reminds me how great it is. It is cool to see you, a top destiny player, experience the joy of learning about all that is warframe. Welcome, enjoy, it only gets better. Glad you're here. Looking forward to following your journey.
Can't Wait for your reaction to next quests! Also after 1000 hours and all quest completed i didn't notice we are called tenno after zariman ten zero... But English is not my first languago so meybe that's it.
...and I am thinking "Does Mac know how REAL Lotus can be?" I am assuming he never watched a dev stream, so he might not know Steve and Reb and others. The dev eam is so esential to the whole game, how the game feels and how personal it becomes to a lot of us. He is so right though. It's insane how well kept all the spoilers were by all of the players. It's unheard of.
I think what makes the warframe "lore" stay hidden is a combination of the fact that we could speak freely of gameplay mechanic involving the Operator and no-one that doesn't know the game deeply would understand what we're talking about and the implications, combined with the fact that the "second dream" quest was released in 2015, so it's kinda old now. Around that time it was pretty big news even outside the Warframe bubble, nowadays it's old stuff. So it's actually a perfect time to get into warframe, it's not difficult to go in "spoiler-free" because on the one hand warframe players are actually pretty mindful about spoiling new players (some will even go so as far as to not use the operator in gameplay if there's a new player around) and on the other end it's highly unlikely you'll stumble randomly on spoiler heavy content for something that happened 9y ago Also about the 50h of gameplay before that, for some of us it was like 2 years. Two years of desperately wanting a proper quest-line, a proper background to the gameplay. 2 years filled with theories, theory-crafting and overanalizing things that for a new player aren't even that important. Like for us things like "who are the Orokin" or "who is the Stalker" weren't even questions, it was known. Not the details because those details came from these quests for the most part, but the sheer amount of curiosity and speculation made everyone that was even a bit interested in the lore immediately catch on things. That is something that's impossible to replicate, when we got to the Second Dream some of us already had hundreds if not thousands of hours into the game. The feel to FINALLY have a crumb of lore is impossible to replicate. Although I'm happy to see you appreciating it so much
@@dylanevartt3219 - War is not bad, but Broken War does more damage and is better at performing crit damage! Once you upgrade it, you’re gonna go nuts wanting to get Broken War all over again!
You're not alone. When I finished the quest and Lotus appeared in person I thought, "Good thing I'm not a streamer/letsplayer who plays games with an eye-tracker."
Comming back to rewatch the second dream I realise that if you think about it, warframes plot of “children with powers controls robots to fight war” which is nothing new specially in the anime/mecha scene. But the fact that the game hides the child part until you are very deep in it is what makes it stand out from the baseline so much that is incredible
He's been playing for 50 hours? Well, he did blitz through the start chart with easy help from chat. But a normal player experience has to find all the information themselves through the community or the internet. But glad mactics made it past the second dream. Its where the game starts getting more worthwhile. When i went through the game myself, it took me more than double the hours. I didn't have a bunch of people giving me noteworthy information about the game, i had to figure out, how mods work, how to efficiently work around the star chart, slowly progressing through the story. When your in the early game, you can't have flashy fashion, unless you have a wide audience, or money. But rn my account has the fashion i aimed. Now i need a new pc to play the game again. Last time i played was in 2022.
@@Orion_44 They also changed Wally's voice line (the "Hey kiddo" jumpscare you get in the orbiter randomly). Not sure I'm a fan of the change as it's not as ominous and booming as before.
The new stalker voice replacing all his old lines kinda sucks imo. It's like if you redid all of the Prophet of Truth's lines from Halo 2 with his Halo 3 voice actor just because he's the newer one (even though the new voice sounds worse, just like the new stalker voice)
God damn I got a lil choked up watching this again. I'm so fucking glad I stuck with this since closed beta, its been incredible seeing what they have accomplished.
50 hours for you,... years for some of us.
Real shit lol
Being there since closed beta, along for the ride since the beginning, it really hit different
It's nice to see it still manages to surprise people though
I got to second dream after 110 hours. Some tutorial lol
@@Psycorde The Legend
FROM THE RlVER TO THE SEE🩸🩸🩸
I hope this reinforces to players why we don't spoil ANYTHING in Warframe.
Yah no new player here....y'all did a bad job with that.
I knew almost in the same breath of hearing about the game that they are basically controlled by super kids.
I don't care but there is a lot of people in UA-cam who review the game and dont spoiler free much.
There are to much imagery and general game play that gives away the sort of state you play in. In my opinion.
@@DaftGlassAlice That's unfortunate, hopefully you see now why you should do your best to keep others from doing the same thing to other new players. However, I think most new players aren't spoiled by the time they get to this point.
@@DaftGlassAlice tbf, quest been out almost a decade, so lot of people don't care about keeping it a secret anymore, especially when even grander quests have been released since then. Like it was gate kept hard somewhere before New War update, but when DE started to market the Operators in official promotional materials, then community also gave up.
@@DaftGlassAlice sorry to hear that man. i hope it was/is still enjoyable to play for you though 👍. And besides it seems warframe isn't done suprising us just yet so u can be surprised together with all the other tenno with future updates.
@@intalek305bro 90% of build showcases someone will muscle memory use the operator before starting.
It ain't that deep it's an old game its a YOU issue if you get spoiled.
This quest is SACRED to all of us veterans, we absolutely do NOT let this secret get out.
It's a huge reason as to why everyone calls this thing spoiler mode. It's such a great story beat
Been with warframe since 2018 and to this day still tell everyone "DONT SPOIL THE SECOND DREAM"
@@straydog9672 after all the second dream is the end of the tutorial we will want everyone to play the tutorial
Thank y'all because I recently completed this and the War Within and just 🤯
@@ratoaenix4619i literally check if the person is over rank seven and if they arent i check their profile before I use it lol
To complete The Second Dream is to take a vow of silence about it.
the hardest part about being a Tenno is knowing how many awesome moments and secrets the game has and trying to convince other people to stick with it cause the only reason you can give is "trust me"
It's honestly so frustrating but also gratifying, keeping this secret. Sometimes you get those people who are all, bro this game has no story, and they haven't even unlocked "Natah" and you don't want to spoil anything so they just burn out and leave - but then there are times when you get players who stick it out and experience the magic that Warframe keeps hidden away - and it's all worth it to experience right along with them.
RIGHT?!? Trying to get my friends to stick with it till then and it’s a CHALLENGE without spoiling anything
When the only thing you can say is "Just play until the second dream."
Similar situation with recommending Outer Wilds.
great game btw. should defo play it, trust me
@@warchildsilver I literally did this twice before cross save came out, back in 2018 I played on ps4 on and off til I got to jupiter, then on pc in 2020 I did the same til Saturn, everyone was telling me I was just around the corner. When they released cross save I figured I'd come back considering DE was releasing the best form of cross save, I realised I literally was just moments away from peak, now I have to play each new expansion content that drops while I slowly get closer to steel path
"Dream. Not of what you are. But of what you want to be."
by my edge, cleave it beating from its nest...
I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach Pokémon to understand
The power that's inside
"Me quiero volver chango" they said.
"What" I replied
The song that was playing while Lotus said that is literally called "This is What You Are".
To be perfectly fair.
The character creation happened something like 2-3 years in to the game existence. I see it as both way to blow people mind and way to respect everyone who started before it existed.
It was way past 2-3 years I'm pretty sure. Sure as fuck felt like it.
@@AMythicalTrickster I think miss remembered the time Warframe actually released. But definitely longer then 2-3 years for the close beta guys and early players.
It released in 2016 as that was the first time i played and I remember second dream came out that year
@@AMythicalTricksterIt actually was just a bit under three years. The game released on pc in March of 2013, the Second Dream came along in December of 2015.
@@FamousWF December of the year before, so just before you started.
Well done, you have officially finished the Warframe tutorial. Now the REAL game begins! And yes, the reason we are called Tenno is because of the ship's name
I would say the war within is the real tutorial and everything until the end of second dream is just a prologue
@@ar1i_ki would say war within as well maybe New war
Bro the tutorial ends when you unlock the steel path
@@Wonbacknah it's defo after steel path bro the entire game is one tutorial
@@CupidSmurf657 i would say war within is definitely tutorial stuff. New war not as much, more story branching.
22:18 "i do not like this" 😂 wait till he hears, "rap tap tap" 😭
Exactly what I was thinking too 😂
Bro delete this! Don't spoil it! 🤣🤣
harrow is still my most fave quest of this game I actually got scared and I surprised myself with that it was so well done and so different to the game you played until then🤣
You should've left it well enough alone, kiddo. It will *never* get *better* if you keep. On. Picking. At. IT
oh he heard that like last week. it was a hell of a trip for the chat. now we wait for the clip.
“Not only is this a mind blowing narrative twist, I’ve never so much as heard a whisper of this.”
That’s because the Second Dream is Warframe’s most fiercely guarded spoiler. It was such a game changer and completely rewrote everything we thought we knew about the game up until this moment, everyone in the community collectively decided that under no circumstances is anyone allowed to spoil this particular quest for folks who came along late to the game. It was actually really fortunate that you decided to play solo mostly, because you’d have seen other players’ Tenno long before you got to here.
I feel so bad when im in a pub and accidentally use operator with a newb there. So used to void slinging everywhere
@@cavemanpretzel9520 it’s so ingrained in the nature of the game at this point, it’s hard to stop yourself from doing it lol
@@cavemanpretzel9520 Whenever that slips out and someone asks me what that was, I just say "It's something you unlock at the end of the game to make maneuvering easier" and that's it. Most of the time they just get hyped. It's rare someone actually looks at you in detail during the heat of combat, so they don't even notice you pulled out a human form.
@@cavemanpretzel9520 honestlt everytime a new player is in the lobby i always try and use my wellspring away from where they can see me because eventhough they will just be like "tf is that ability" i still dont want to spoil anything
I got spoiled by cosmetics in the market
Lotus-“Now we fight on two fronts my child”
Me-“yes mommy”
You were 50 hours into the game when you played second dream, know image how some veterans felt when they played it for the first time after hundreds of hours (400 in my case) that felt insane
@jacquessimard7570 auto correct maybe?
Imagine those of us that have been around since the beginning. I can't quite make that claim, but do come close. A friend that no longer plays was a founder, got me started back in 2013. I've seen at least three different intro missions.
@@joelbaker9366 same, I have played since November 2013
Imagine meeting Steve at TennoVIP 2015 in Germany where he's drunk as hell trying not to spoil this 😂
I was so blessed to come across this game for real
"absolute cinema" incoming
Indeed, the missions after this one only keep getting better. Gonna be sick watching him do the war within
@@Error-33War Within, The Sacrifice, The New War, so hype
this is not cinema. this is a grind game no one plays because of the lackluster story.
@@OsirusIrdia let me guess can't farm the prime frame or weapon you want?
@@OsirusIrdia least obvious ragebait
Mactics: "I am out of the Honeymoonphase! I know how Warframe works!"
- Looking forward to see his reaction to the War Within :D
and the Sacrifice
@@thomaspriewasser6660 and the new war
And the Harrow quest too
Every quest just makes you requestion what you know about the game 😂
Fun fact the voice of Lotus is Rebecca Ford who's Warframes creative director
Spacemom!
As a Destiny player myself, I remember constantly comparing the two games to each other up until I got to the second dream. That's when I realized they were not on the same level and can't really be compared at all with how different they are. Warframe community and game itself is such a wonderful experience and so glad I've been part of it for years now. And probably still many years to come.
The number one rule is dont spoil the second dream
Rule 2: The duviri paradox guy isn't important at all of you played it before uranus
@@colint.m.1758i fucking hate that we can start the game with the drifter
@@kaantax8666 not anymore at least
@@kaantax8666 Thats what im saying, you should NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY HIM UNTIL THE NEW WAR
@@kaantax8666 Wait is that even possible? I thought beating The New War was a requisite
The second dream really is a master class example of a really well done twist. The gameplay and narrative buildup, the time and investment it takes, and the fact that it's a secret mostly kept hidden by the community at Large.
And the crazy part is, despite this high note, it just keeps getting better. Though this reveal has stuck in my memory that's one of the most impactful video game experiences I've had.
That line “cleave it, beating from its nest” will always give me chills. This quest was sooooooo awesome. I hype up all of my friends playing the game for the first time
Some cool things about The Second Dream; When you take on the first Sentient Battalyst, that originally used to be a lot, lot harder. It was a full on surprise boss fight as the thing would quickly gain 90% damage reduction against any damage you dealt to it. So players would often fail that part of the mission, have to redo it with more Elements modded on their weapons to keep dealing damage, and so DE eventually reduced the effective health of Battalysts (and Sentient enemies in general) to make it more fair.
If you go for long enough without finding Hunhow's bones in the underwater Archwing section, Alad V gets bored and just marks them for you.
I witnessed a player not realise that you can attack after the big reveal and they patiently walked their way through the rest of the mission getting shot at and attacked, but never fighting back, because they didn't read the on-screen instructions.
It was originally planned for the Warframe you used for the Quest to suffer a permanent 'damage' decal from where the sword was torn out, and at the last minute DE changed their minds and instead gave players a Sigil you can put on your frame that looks like a burning scar. (This was so they could make the Quest replayable for people to check out all the details again.)
And lastly, the Community in general like to keep the ending of the Quest as a spoiler because they don't want the rest of the Gaming world to know that DE literally cast all their players as whiny children ^^
It kinda hurts me in a way to see baby Tenno clown that first battalyst, they don't know how we suffered
Yeah, my fight against this thing (back when the quest was brand new) was won pretty much purely thanks to me using Valkyr at the time, allowing me to kill the damn thing slowly, 10 health at a time while healing myself... it was a horrifying moment to discover that my Opticor, THE oneshot machine at the time, barely scratched the damn thing
Just remember everyone who told you to play dit not spoil it for you because it is so beautiful to feel the game and Warframe is one of the most beautiful game to do this special this Quest and a couple other ones enjoy how we all dit en love the game even after so so many years good luck tenno now it's also your responsibility to keep the secret
Years of vet plays before this first cinematic of hundreds of hours is a plus reason for me as well,just to honor ,I did not get to experience it that way but I respect it to be the amazing I will never see
The second dream, the prologue for tutorial 1.5, it's time to wake up and realize what you are, tenno.
Bro I tear up every time I see this quest sequence. The Warframe carrying you and your “mother” putting you in the somatic cradle. Peak.
The reveal of why we're called "Operator" by Ordis is just absolutely unmatched
Thank the Clerisy, you did not put spoilers into thumbnail or title. Bless you for giving Warframe so much love and appreciation for all the little unique quirks and corners it has. It's genuinely exciting to watch every minute of you going through the dreamer's journey!
I remember when i started Warframe my buddies did not spoil anything for me either. I was like, "yo wtf is that!" When my operator grabbed my frame, and my buddies muted their mics to savour it for me. Years later i was getting more friends into Warframe and did the exact same for them too. The second dream is the best kept secret in gaming imo 😂
Hunhow's voice actor is so good, his performance in new war is even better
Have fun when you get there
And that's why I refer to new players as Dreamers. It doesn't really set off any alarm bells for spoilers, and Nora Nightwave uses it in game already. Congrats on waking up, and welcome to the cinematic arc of Warframe!
i like how most of the Cinematic Quests Come after this one too
I always thought it was neat that Hunhow describes itself as a "sentient destroyer of worlds" but what that actually means is "self-aware terraforming machine", it's just like their own internalization of what they are and what they were built for
Mactics: this game continues to blow my mind.
Me: oh sweet child, you are not prepared.
He picked up the best School in my opinion for beginners.
Energy regeneration from zenurik when you don't have anything else to regenerate energy is a game changer, you can use your abilities more often.
And later you can change school because you are having other energy sources like Energize Arcane and other stuff.
Id say it is one of the best starting still
Especially if you can't fit equilibrium everytime cuz tjat mod is just expensive for new players
I’m a Vet since 2014 and I still use it lol
No longer as fundamental since they give all new players a Dreamer's Bond aura (half a Rejuvenation, half an Energy Siphon). I mean, still wonderful, but it's no longer the only one new players should consider starting with.
@@dvdfrsr True but it is still nice to start with especially Combining it with Dreamer's bond.
besides it's like weaker version of Rejuv and Engergy siphon which is fair as it gives both and isn't stuck to 1 polarity :P
@@dwightedwards3859 i started switching to madurai for Casting speed and Ability strenght
It’s so fun to see someone relive experiencing this for so long. Warframe is the internets best kept secret, community is unreal. So happy to be a vet at the game
Remember we played the game for several years, before we experienced this mission,
not just 50 hrs.
Some of those years were better than others 🤔
As someone who's been playing since early 2014, this quest hit super hard as I had almost 1000 hours in the game at the time. Mind was absolutely blown to say the least
No matter how many times I see the cinematic quests, they still give me goosebumps every single time.
"This Is What You Are" is such a banger.
"Warframe is the internet's best kept secret" is something we hear around and its for a reason
Not everyone knows about the game in a first place, a lot of people never reach the highs of this game, but its all a secret nonetheless!
Congratulations on waking up from your second dream 🎉
This Quest was a big turning point for Warframe story most people skipped over it or just didn't pay much attention but after this everything changed.
Congratulations, you passed the tutorial. Welcome to Warframe.
Congrats on completing the tutorial!
Now dont for a second think there arent any other mindblowing surprises to come, youre just at the tip of the iceberg now.
Also the narrative goes into overdrive from this point onwards. Im hyped to watch you experience this gem going forward.
And yes, the community is absolutely tight lipped about this reveal. The story and how it hits is borderline magical when it comes to videogame experiences. Its something the community collectively goes out of its way to keep hidden as not to spoil it, the most you will hear from people to draw new players in is 'the story is insane' and 'wait till you hit the second dream quest'. And it always hits people hard as the story is 'eh' at best until this point and after 50+ hours of people going 'its alright' to being walloped by this masterpiece just hits hard, we play games for experiences, the reason this community is so good is because of the immense experience this game provides, and we as gamers, want others to feel the greatness of this unique experience.
Welcome to the community, guard the secret for others as best you can :D
Man I remember pre second dream days. Then I remember everyone blind playing this the first time. It's still fiendeshly beautiful, even all these years later.
Congratulations on beating the Tutorial.
Margulis was an Orokin Archimedean. Essentially a high ranking scientist. She was like a mother to the Tenno after they were recovered, but as Lotus says, the Orokin were scared of the Tenno. They wanted to kill them. Margulis stood in their way so they killed her, but they used her research to develop Transference which let the Tenno project their minds into the Warframes which could channel their abilities better with less risk. This is not spoilers, its just a recap of some of the information at the end of the quest.
This was THE quest that made me fall in love with Warframe. The Tenno being awaken, Lotus words and the beautiful OST... A true masterpiece. It gave me the chills watching this video.
39:00 Story is more complicated, complex and beautiful than this "little secret". As a veteran player of Warframe, I really respect lore of the game and every player should experience in own way.
Fr i remember playing for the first time and had the same reaction, "wtf is going on" but the more you play the more it feeds and in the end your left amazed
And this is why the community universally agreed that we would never spoil the Second Dream and the quests beyond.
I love that you are sharing the story. Unfortunately when I played it through, I went so fast. I missed so much. But I have to say the funniest thing so far is when you said, “no! I worked so hard on that fashion!”
Also, Warframe exists almost as a large cult. It is massively popular amongst players but not amongst the gaming media. Follow the money. The developers focus all their money into building the game. Let that sink in.
31:44 "The frame isn't a person" oh boi.
YEEES! I'm SO happy you enjoyed the quest!! And thank you- hearing you say what you did about the community keeping the secret of that quest so well put a big smile on my face. As a Vet, we tend to take a lot of care & pride in making sure everyone, especially new players, get the BEST experience possible out of that quest line.. and it pays off seeing the joyful, surprised expressions on peoples' faces. Hope to catch you in the Origin system sometime Tenno! Welcome, the party has JUST begun.
I have been playing for a decade now and I genuinely never made the connection between Ten-Zero and Tenno holy shit
I hate that this quest doesn't hit the same for newbies because they didn't have to wait YEARS for it to release, making theories and questioning what the fuck is a warframe and how does it work
So I started playing in 2015 (June 22nd a little before equinox/movement 2.0/natah quest) and after acquiring my like my 3rd frame I started have a hunch that this warframe stuff was kind of matrix-like.
What I mean by that is I felt at that point like ok there’s got to be more to this than lotus just commanding me to go do this and that and I just take whatever frame and go. Like what am I? Oh could it be that someone human is controlling the frames from somewhere? Maybe I’m “jacked-in” like the matrix. Then being captured by the gustrag 3 having to use a different frame until I got that one back pretty much made me settle on that theory which made the second dream an even better experience for me bc I was surprised to find I was somewhat right in that context
its cool watching people play it for themselves and they notice different things to you, like where the name "Tenno" came from, that completely crossed my mind when i was doing the quest. Coincidentally enough, its almost like im progressing warframe with mactics rn, its weirdly cool in a way. such a good game
It's time to wake up.
It took years for early players to get to this quest.
We knew the Lotus as Spacemom, I'll admit I cried a bit during this quest. Things were overwhelming.
"I worked so hard on that fashion, bro" got me to chuckle ;)
I promise you this is where the warframe gets jaw dropping. Nothing but peak from here on out.
This is the questline that made me go from really liking Warframe, to absolutely adoring it- and it would turn out to not even be my favorite one later on.
I mean seriously, what other game has the guts or ambition to put a big reveal that recontextualizes everything before it not only behind 50-100 hours of playtime, but also have it just be the start of the REAL story? In today's gaming industry, that's something incredibly damn special.
And then Space Mommy said unto us "Thou shalt not spoil The Second Dream" and we wept tears of joy, for we had been enlightened.
Second Dream is what made me start caring about Warframe. I got bored of the gameplay loop while my friend were racking up hundreds into thousands of hours. I just couldn't get into the grind. Then they convinced me to play Second Dream, and I fell in love with it. I'm still a slacker when it comes to the grinds in the game, but I will almost always log in on patch day for whatever new story, quest or event has come out.
You only get to experience the mind blowing secrets once. This is why I love telling people about Warframe. To see their genuine, unspoiled reactions.
Loved seeing you go through this! Get ready for a WILD ride from here on out, the story quests get even crazier from here.
"Tenno! Tonight we hide the mooooooooooooon!"
I can't explain why, but I teared up with how you talked about the Warframe community. NGL.
WHY DID I TEAR UP?!?!? D;
You're not alone! I started clapping at the screen and a joy tear rolled down my eye!
I can't wait for him to try sacrifice quest
I swear he is going to loose his mind after warframe origin
I really love seeing someone actually take their time and enjoy Warframe as a whole, seeing things for the first time within the game and experiencing the story and how fun you can make it.
Congratulations on beating the tutorial. There are more moments like this to come. Good luck Tenno!!!
Mannn, this video gave me flashbacks to yesteryear, when I barely knew how to find the modding interface 😭
Epic job dude, may your relationship with Warframe be long and fruitful.
This guy is better at spy missions better than 99% of warframe players.
99% of players just rush to the site and ignore the countdown
Tip, use Ivara and one of her Augments. never get caught in a Spy mission ever again.
@@renehoyvikthis.
@@renehoyvikUno Card - Ivara parts are behind C rotations in Spy.
They still need to learn spy ( We do not count Ivara Prime, that's cheating ... a bit ... )
@@renehoyvik Wukong: Press 2
Congrats on finishing the warframe tutorial! 😀 I wonder if this will be one of your most viewed videos... hard to resist watching someone experience this. 🙂
26:58 "Where are all my roombas? huh...?" love that
The release of the Second Dream was so crazy for us. Before that, we played for 2 years with just tiny bits of story, and suddenly we are hit with actual clear lore, cinematics and new options.
Rebbeca Ford (back then, community manager, now CEO of Warframe) said something like "Player are great at telling you that they are bored, but not why. So story progression was our idea to give them meaning in their actions." - I think that is part of the NoClip documentary, very worth watching!
Oh my... given how much you love Spy missions, you're going to kick out once you find out about Ivara with her Infiltrate Augment, or about how Wukong's Ability (Cloud Walker) completely bypasses them...
Edit to add: Congrats on finishing the Tutorial!
And here I use wukong because I hate them
@@professionallybad126wukong and masters summons hell yah
@@Thaylien Thought you were going to say something else there.
"You're going to love finding Ivara's chassis on Pavlov, Lua's spy mission." (In sarcastic tone)
As a LONG time player, thank you for the massive spoiler warning in the intro. We try hard to keep that moment pure.
We have finally reached the quest section of the playthrough! Glazing from this point on!
Dude, as someone who played and who still plays warframe for years, thanks for bringing back so many good memories about the stuff I can't do again anymore. I'm really excited about your progress within the game and cheering for your next discoveries!
28:21 It's not a gun. It's a laser, hold the shooting bottom.
Bro this was a treat to watch, being able to experience it all AGAIN through someone else and seeing them enjoy it, i cant wait for you to learn more and dive deeper into the story
Yeah, one thing you have to remember is stuff like this came after we had been playing for years. If it was mind-blowing for you being 50 hours in, imagine people's world turned upside down after years of thinking something, haha.
And regarding keeping the secret, yeah, this and FFXIV have some of the best communities on that regard. Amazing twists throughout both stories that are a joy to see someone else's mind also get blow when they experience them for the first time too.
The waverider the quest that will litterally rot in your codex for most of the time youll ever play warframe lmao
When I first did this quest, (10 yr legend 1 now) this game had almost no plot. This quest, even now, is the only game experience that brought me to tears. Before this quest the entire game was "Space ninja go BRRRRRRR". The longer you have played this game without doing the quest, the harder the quest hits you. I had been playing for years.
If you go back, the mainline questing kinda starts with Stolen Dreams, but only via hindsight... All is silent and calm. Hushed and empty is the womb of the sky.
Then The New Strange is the followup with the rogue frame killing those that had previous involvement with the arcane codeces, ending at an arcane machine with a projection of a sentient relic above it.
Now with TSD, players heads to the womb of the sky to rescue themselves, while worrying about the sentients.
I loved watching this. It's such a great punch-up for the story and the community waited years for this to come together. It was worth the wait and it's cool to see someone fresh see and also feel it. Welcome Tenno.
He botta go crazy, love the second dream!
he’s already mr13
@arsenalace5819 14 actually almost 15
@@KungFuBarbie-pc7hbTf how? I'm only mr10 and I'm already doing steel path
@@GravitonLance well he plays alot and gets gifted alot. The relic pack gifts got him over 300 axi so he doesn't need to grind warframe relics. And 150 aya too. Basically made the grind easier by a ton
Sup Mactics! Bro I was a destiny player since the beginning. Loved it but got bored with it...then I found Warframe. Loved it and quickly became addicted. Couldn't believe I hadn't gotten onboard sooner. Played every chance I could get on a mission to try to get up to current content. But the pre release hype of final shape drew me back to destiny. That's when I started following you on UA-cam for tips on improving my destiny gaming. Love your content. Now, seeing you go through the early parts of warframe reminds me how great it is. It is cool to see you, a top destiny player, experience the joy of learning about all that is warframe. Welcome, enjoy, it only gets better. Glad you're here. Looking forward to following your journey.
Can't Wait for your reaction to next quests!
Also after 1000 hours and all quest completed i didn't notice we are called tenno after zariman ten zero... But English is not my first languago so meybe that's it.
...and I am thinking "Does Mac know how REAL Lotus can be?" I am assuming he never watched a dev stream, so he might not know Steve and Reb and others. The dev eam is so esential to the whole game, how the game feels and how personal it becomes to a lot of us. He is so right though. It's insane how well kept all the spoilers were by all of the players. It's unheard of.
If i see any low mr / new player i dont even use my operator so they dont get ANY type of spoilers from me.
I think what makes the warframe "lore" stay hidden is a combination of the fact that we could speak freely of gameplay mechanic involving the Operator and no-one that doesn't know the game deeply would understand what we're talking about and the implications, combined with the fact that the "second dream" quest was released in 2015, so it's kinda old now. Around that time it was pretty big news even outside the Warframe bubble, nowadays it's old stuff. So it's actually a perfect time to get into warframe, it's not difficult to go in "spoiler-free" because on the one hand warframe players are actually pretty mindful about spoiling new players (some will even go so as far as to not use the operator in gameplay if there's a new player around) and on the other end it's highly unlikely you'll stumble randomly on spoiler heavy content for something that happened 9y ago
Also about the 50h of gameplay before that, for some of us it was like 2 years. Two years of desperately wanting a proper quest-line, a proper background to the gameplay. 2 years filled with theories, theory-crafting and overanalizing things that for a new player aren't even that important. Like for us things like "who are the Orokin" or "who is the Stalker" weren't even questions, it was known. Not the details because those details came from these quests for the most part, but the sheer amount of curiosity and speculation made everyone that was even a bit interested in the lore immediately catch on things. That is something that's impossible to replicate, when we got to the Second Dream some of us already had hundreds if not thousands of hours into the game.
The feel to FINALLY have a crumb of lore is impossible to replicate. Although I'm happy to see you appreciating it so much
HE’S FINALLY GOT HIS TENNO!!! HE’S OFFICIALLY ONE OF US!!!
And whatever you do, do not make Broken War into War!
Is War bad?
@@dylanevartt3219 - War is not bad, but Broken War does more damage and is better at performing crit damage! Once you upgrade it, you’re gonna go nuts wanting to get Broken War all over again!
You're not alone. When I finished the quest and Lotus appeared in person I thought, "Good thing I'm not a streamer/letsplayer who plays games with an eye-tracker."
WAIT HOLD ON I DIDNT REALIZE THAT ABOUT THE 10-0 THING
This quest was the reason why I was keep playing warframe and the following ones kept me coming back
Congratulations, Tenno. You've officially completed the tutorial!!
Dude! Your excitement is my excitement. I'm almost re-living my Second Dream, all those years ago, watching your video. Keep it up!
"Hey you, youre finally awake."
Comming back to rewatch the second dream I realise that if you think about it, warframes plot of “children with powers controls robots to fight war” which is nothing new specially in the anime/mecha scene. But the fact that the game hides the child part until you are very deep in it is what makes it stand out from the baseline so much that is incredible
Ah yes finally finished the tutorial
The “where’s all my rumbas??” was so emotional
17:47 I've legit never seen anyone get hit by that rock lmao
Yes, we guard the secret. For us, it is magic every time to see someone enjoy it.
31:15 : Tutorial complete, now customise your character.
He's been playing for 50 hours? Well, he did blitz through the start chart with easy help from chat. But a normal player experience has to find all the information themselves through the community or the internet. But glad mactics made it past the second dream. Its where the game starts getting more worthwhile.
When i went through the game myself, it took me more than double the hours. I didn't have a bunch of people giving me noteworthy information about the game, i had to figure out, how mods work, how to efficiently work around the star chart, slowly progressing through the story. When your in the early game, you can't have flashy fashion, unless you have a wide audience, or money. But rn my account has the fashion i aimed. Now i need a new pc to play the game again. Last time i played was in 2022.
Has anyone noticed how Stalker’s voice changed with the new VA? I didnt know they changed his lines for older quests, that’s fun
I think it fits the way they are taking his character in "Jade Shadows" and beyond, sounds more "mature" if that makes sense
@@Orion_44yeah I agree, I think it’s a cool change, I never noticed it in Second Dream (mostly because I did that so long ago lmao)
@@Orion_44 They also changed Wally's voice line (the "Hey kiddo" jumpscare you get in the orbiter randomly). Not sure I'm a fan of the change as it's not as ominous and booming as before.
@@CelestialDraconis really? that sucks
The new stalker voice replacing all his old lines kinda sucks imo. It's like if you redid all of the Prophet of Truth's lines from Halo 2 with his Halo 3 voice actor just because he's the newer one (even though the new voice sounds worse, just like the new stalker voice)
God damn I got a lil choked up watching this again. I'm so fucking glad I stuck with this since closed beta, its been incredible seeing what they have accomplished.