The WebTV Experience - Exploring a BRAND NEW Unit!

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • EPILEPSY WARNING: This video contains rapid flashing imagery, especially at 21:43 and 44:55.
    Thanks to JarHead and nitrate92 for giving me early access to their custom server, which is based on zefie's minisrv project!
    Back in the '90s, the world was introduced to WebTV: a platform that allowed users to experience all that the World Wide Web had to offer, right from the comfort of a couch. And thanks to the work of some independent developers, it's possible to experience it in the modern day!
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction & Overview
    02:57 - Unboxing
    08:47 - Connection Setup & Explanation
    14:09 - Connecting to the Custom Server
    15:18 - Creating an Account
    20:16 - WebTV Introduction Screens
    21:46 - TV Home
    23:26 - Web Home & About Info
    25:08 - Mail
    26:58 - Favorites
    28:08 - Page Builder (Making a Website)
    33:14 - Around Town
    35:26 - Chat
    37:12 - Discussion Groups
    38:18 - Search
    40:24 - Menu Bar & Settings
    42:10 - MSN Messenger
    46:24 - More Settings
    47:15 - WebTV Today
    53:36 - Browsing the Web
    55:29 - Games on WebTV
    58:26 - DOOM (yes, really)
    1:05:30 - You Don't Know Jack
    1:11:35 - Outro
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  • @MichaelMJD
    @MichaelMJD  10 місяців тому +184

    Great news! As of 7/1/23, the custom server I demoed in this video is open to the public! Head on over to webtv.zone for a guide on how to connect.

    • @nayoniaxd
      @nayoniaxd 10 місяців тому +8

      just me or im just exitet to release and i dont even have a web tv box

    • @Freakishink292
      @Freakishink292 10 місяців тому +6

      The website works too

    • @br3wdev
      @br3wdev 10 місяців тому +6

      Thank you for remembering

    • @AntiUTTP926
      @AntiUTTP926 10 місяців тому +3

      @@nayoniaxd you can use it in software sooooo

    • @ImDannn
      @ImDannn 10 місяців тому +12

      Going back to old videos and giving updates in the pins, this is the reason why you are such an amazing youtuber. Thank you MJD, you're actually amazing

  • @jbrooks4282
    @jbrooks4282 Рік тому +699

    Wow, this brought back some memories. My dad bought us a web TV (non plus) back around 1996? Maybe 1997. Microsoft had already acquired them and the service required MSN dialup for a seamless experience. They didn't have a local phone number to us, so the sales man at Sears signed us up for a local ISP and showed us how to input the settings for our ISP. However it wouldn't save the ISP info, so it had to be input manually every time you wanted to use it.. I put in that cryptic, random generated password so many times it is forever burned into my memory. Thanks for demonstrating this hardware/software Michael, I enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Рік тому +31

      Can you tell us the password now?

    • @oqocraft2661
      @oqocraft2661 Рік тому

      @@ffwast 1234567890

    • @nocturnalmayhem0
      @nocturnalmayhem0 Рік тому +9

      lol i remember having to do that was annoying

    • @jbrooks4282
      @jbrooks4282 Рік тому +66

      @@ffwast I sure could, however I still use the password as a base for current passwords, I just add variations to it.

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies Рік тому +22

      @@jbrooks4282 sounds quite useful to have it burned into your memory then

  • @NeonCoding
    @NeonCoding Рік тому +158

    Fun fact: about a third of android's OG developers came from WebTV in microsoft - there's a book about developing the system where they mention the three main places that all the devs came from.

  • @zzcolby27
    @zzcolby27 Рік тому +145

    The fact that there's an OFFICIAL Dish Network port of DOOM for WebTV has blown my mind clean open.

    • @zacharyreynolds4303
      @zacharyreynolds4303 Рік тому +9

      OFFICIAL 😳

    • @christophercompton2739
      @christophercompton2739 Рік тому +8

      The DishPlayer unit is the only one that actually had a link to games that I'm aware of. There is a secret code that reboots the entire unit into each game for most of the webTV Plus units. These tricks can be found with a general search in Google, I had even upgraded my dish player unit to a 120 gig IDE hard drive back in the day

    • @DustoMan
      @DustoMan 9 місяців тому +1

      Man I really loved my DishPlayer.

    • @411WebTV
      @411WebTV 9 місяців тому

      @@christophercompton2739 You would have had to download the games before being able to use the codes for WebTV Plus at the time those were published, which would have been a short time window as the games were removed from the internal servers they were discovered on not too long after the codes were released. While custom firmware does exist with all two officially released games (+ one unreleased port of MAME to WebTV) built in, and the files for all three WebTV Plus games are on the Internet Archive, they do not typically come buried within WebTV Plus hard drives. DishPlayer boxes were the only WebTV-based boxes that had any native support for games. ~ wtv-411

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +441

    I can feel a new speedrun category for Doom coming up: “webTV, remote only, hurt me plenty” 😈

    • @stigrabbid589
      @stigrabbid589 Рік тому +12

      webTV, Remote Only UV too, maybe UV Pacifist as well

    • @TDGalea
      @TDGalea Рік тому +11

      Nightmare or nothing.

    • @ElectricoGamez
      @ElectricoGamez Рік тому +8

      Good god lol

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +3

      @@stigrabbid589 hahah I love the idea of a pacifist run but I suspect that may not actually be doable, while this seems maaaybe doable if you really tried

    • @ElectricoGamez
      @ElectricoGamez Рік тому +6

      Playing doom with a remote is the weirdest and newest kind of nightmare ive ever heard of in my life.

  • @AaronBockelie
    @AaronBockelie Рік тому +315

    I used to work for MSTV at Microsoft probably 20 years ago as a lab manager for our prototyping team. MS acquired WebTV so it's fun to see the UI experience that we bought and then migrated into mainline products. We moved to UltimateTV and then Motorola set top boxes for Rogers and other cable markets until the whole thing sort of closed up. Anyway, thanks for the memories.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +9

      oh wow you worked on the rogers box? that's really cool, nobody has been able to find any info about it other than things like ROM type

    • @AaronBockelie
      @AaronBockelie Рік тому +11

      @@JarHead3894 I used to run the prototype cmts that would provision our boxes internally. It was fun kicking off rom upgrades for new development builds.

    • @411WebTV
      @411WebTV Рік тому +21

      Hello, this is wtv-411 here. I was the former manager and writer for the WebTV Wiki and did a lot of the work in pushing preservation of WebTV content further, but nowadays I mostly help around with smaller things in the background. I would be very interested in hearing more about the Rogers boxes and Rogers Interactive TV service. Particularly, I'd like to know what models of Motorola boxes were made that supported the Rogers WebTV software, as well as information on how WebTV was adapted for broadband. Right now, information on the Rogers WebTV service is next to impossible to find online, so getting more information about it would be excellent!

    • @ShumanGore
      @ShumanGore Рік тому +1

      didn't motorola STBs ended being purchased by arris?

    • @AaronBockelie
      @AaronBockelie Рік тому +7

      @@411WebTV I remember that we had builds of WinCE running on the moto STBs. There was a generic intermediate layer that we could brand with html and styles that was loaded into the firmware packages. It's been 20 years though so I don't remember a lot.

  • @lemonheep
    @lemonheep Рік тому +193

    This feels like the Wii before the Wii. The way it works reminds me EXACTLY of all those news, forecast, and online channels you'd mess around with. They even have a bop in the "Connecting to WebTV" screen.

    • @theosguy4807
      @theosguy4807 Рік тому +28

      Well the thing in common is that the service for the Wii "WiiConnect24" And "MSN TV service" ended at the same year. However there's more.

    • @erroroliver
      @erroroliver 5 місяців тому +1

      @@theosguy4807 "However there's more." MICHEAL MJD??

    • @Hijiri_MIRACHION
      @Hijiri_MIRACHION 3 місяці тому +1

      Man, the Wii really was the last hurrah of these sorts of internet boxes, before everything became about streaming services...
      It even had a food channel, just like the Pizza button on the i-Opener.

    • @erroroliver
      @erroroliver 3 місяці тому

      @@Hijiri_MIRACHION The 90's, the 00's were all good years

  • @phillyguy8541
    @phillyguy8541 Рік тому +93

    An interesting story with webtv. When I got mine as soon as they became available in the fall of '96, connectivity was quick and speedy. That Christmas it seemed that the whole world got webtv and there were severe connection issues. You had to open up a list of phone connection numbers and literally try each one until you found one that would work. You could go through a whole evening without being able to connect. Eventually they added more reliable numbers and stable connections.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +7

      christmas seems to have been big bucks time for webtv, i've seen quite a few boxes made in december
      they were also brand new, so i guess that gift didn't quite land

    • @F40PH-2CAT
      @F40PH-2CAT Рік тому +8

      Trying to connect on a Friday night was a nightmare. The struggle was real.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +9

      @@F40PH-2CAT they actually had quite an impressive system in place to try and help with that, but unfortunately it doesn't seek to have worked very well unfortunately, like a lot of the things webtv tried to do that was ahead of its time. it's called POPtimization, which is essentially where they'd take usage statistics and other variables and put them into the tellyscript (the thing the box downloads when it's "dialing toll free") so it can call different POPs at different times to help reduce load on just one

    • @felsiccanis
      @felsiccanis Рік тому +1

      Ahh that creates such a nostalgic picture. Thanks for sharing!

  • @EddyGraphic
    @EddyGraphic Рік тому +416

    Pretty crazy how many items devices used to come with, nowadays you’re lucky if you get a HDMI cable 🤣

    • @WilliamHollinger2019
      @WilliamHollinger2019 Рік тому +14

      Then they should mod it to run HDMI.

    • @MixerVM
      @MixerVM Рік тому +61

      And when a device does actually include the cable you need it's about 10 cm long these days. What happened to cables that came in lengths that were actually usable?

    • @SharpMaxwell
      @SharpMaxwell Рік тому +18

      my steam deck dock (90$ btw) didnt come with any cable... but my monitor cam with a plug for europe, asia, and the us, and 2 hdmi cables, and a display port cable lmao

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +12

      @@MixerVM ever smaller profit margins is what happened

    • @robertschnobert9090
      @robertschnobert9090 Рік тому +9

      @@MixerVM I still remember when I bought my CRT TV and it included a 10 meter SCART cable. Still too short to be usable, but they tried at least HAHAHA 🌈

  • @dsouth7754
    @dsouth7754 Рік тому +154

    I can't think of a more boomer experience than WebTV attached to a gigantic rear projection television.

    • @TDGalea
      @TDGalea Рік тому +5

      Rear projection?
      Is that what we're calling CRTs now?

    • @joeynebulous816
      @joeynebulous816 Рік тому +45

      @@TDGalea No, rear projection TVs actually have the guts of a projector smashed in the back of a TV cabinet. It was the easy way to get screen sizes larger than 28inch back in the late 90s to mid 2000s. It literally projects from the back to a translucent screen at the front.

    • @TDGalea
      @TDGalea Рік тому +22

      @@joeynebulous816 Consider me edumacated.

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits Рік тому +8

      It’s a shame crts never survived long enough against lcds to be thin and less flickery, I miss the warm fuzz

    • @BorbzYT
      @BorbzYT Рік тому

      No cap fr fr

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 Рік тому +119

    I've never used one of these before, but somehow it still gives me a real sense of nostalgia. The UI is simple yet really inviting and well made, I really like it.

    • @Lanausse
      @Lanausse Рік тому +2

      Hello again ._.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Рік тому +6

      The concept might have taken off if TVs were much better like current LCDs.

    • @christopherwilliams9418
      @christopherwilliams9418 Рік тому

      @@Lanausse Hello NEWMAN 😩

    • @YakkoWarnerTower
      @YakkoWarnerTower Рік тому +1

      I have the same feeling to be honest lol.

    • @gabotron94
      @gabotron94 Рік тому +3

      The bleeps, whooshes and animations really tie it together

  • @TravisStamper
    @TravisStamper Рік тому +84

    I used to work for Webtv in its infancy. That was nostalgic af. Thanks for the video

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e Рік тому +3

      What are you up to nowadays?

    • @tribaltroll
      @tribaltroll Рік тому +3

      What kind of work did you do? Any stories?

    • @goatjail9364
      @goatjail9364 9 місяців тому +3

      Wanna let you know my parents met on WebTV.

  • @therealdatenshi
    @therealdatenshi Рік тому +48

    that "connecting..." screen and the boot up sequence in general has such a perfect 90s charm to it which is literally incredible

  • @Stabby666
    @Stabby666 Рік тому +115

    Fun fact, I was commisioned to write some web-based games to run on the WebTV. It was a weird thing to develop for due to the control system and restrictions on colours, and general speed and capabilities (very limited styling, and some elements that work in a weird way). The games (and a web chat I wrote) had a LOT of players though.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +28

      oh wow, do you still have any of the games? only webtv game i've found still online is tetris

    • @KA-vs7nl
      @KA-vs7nl Рік тому +4

      Thats pretty cool hope you got paid well

    • @MrThankman360
      @MrThankman360 Рік тому +2

      I had a WebTV and I played games on mine. What was your games like?

  • @bankruptsee
    @bankruptsee Рік тому +567

    Life was so much better when the internet was being explored as a novelty rather than a part of our every day lives.

    • @jess648
      @jess648 Рік тому +73

      and now that omnipresence is causing mental strain on younger generations

    • @pepeshadilay
      @pepeshadilay Рік тому +61

      Chat rooms and forums were a very social experience ... now it has turned highly anti social

    • @TheAnthonyMarlowe
      @TheAnthonyMarlowe Рік тому +13

      Thank you for putting this into words.

    • @cheetahstrike2137
      @cheetahstrike2137 Рік тому +34

      @@jess648 this is so true, so so true.
      It more or less kills the mentality of younger people who aren’t as popular as the others. You get it rubbed in your face that you’re an outcast, everytime you open any social media or something else. Seeing other kids at school get, idk, 30-50 random unprompted messages a day, and the only one you’re getting is what’s to eat at home later this evening, it’s fucking depressing

    • @emesito
      @emesito Рік тому +8

      @@cheetahstrike2137 real

  • @Exodus_20_Deuteronomy_5
    @Exodus_20_Deuteronomy_5 Рік тому +13

    My wife and I met in Talk city in 97.
    25 years later still married.

    • @onemintyrose
      @onemintyrose Місяць тому +2

      Twenty-six now? Also that's a sweet story :D

  • @richdaley9982
    @richdaley9982 Рік тому +57

    I'm so glad you made this video because there aren't that many videos about WebTV and it was a big part of my life in the late 90s and early 2000s. My parents had no experience with the internet or computers but they purchased one of these and understood how to use it because it was very simple and much more like other TV interfaces they had used like a cable box. My father was a Korean War vet and loved surfing and reading stories and articles about the war.
    I was newly married with a baby and we were pretty close to dirt poor with no computer so my parents bought us one of these as a wedding gift. It was really cool to be able to send them pictures of their new grandbaby etc. For the life of me, I can't remember how I got the photos onto the device. I think I might have scanned them in at a friend's house or photo store. In any case, my parents loved it and I was so happy to be able to send them pictures from another state so they could see their granddaughter grow up.

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Рік тому

      rich delay

    • @scott8919
      @scott8919 Рік тому +12

      I believe these had the red, white and yellow cable inputs in the back. I remember hooking up my Playstation to the WebTV once and playing it via picture-in-picture.

    • @big8news
      @big8news 9 місяців тому +1

      With the RCA cables you definitely been able to hook up out put from a camcorder, Play back video or pictures to send them

  • @matthewcassette
    @matthewcassette Рік тому +57

    This takes me back to 1999 when my friend and I would browse the web and go to random sites for hours.
    He got it taken away after we went to random chat rooms and made fun of NSYNC and Brittany Spears fanboys. Good times haha

  • @kenzieduckmoo
    @kenzieduckmoo 7 місяців тому +11

    one of the coolest things about web design back then was you could include snippets of code that regular browsers would ignore but webtv boxes would pick up, so you could do stuff like call out someone using a webtv :)

  • @hrb2358
    @hrb2358 Рік тому +46

    WebTv had its own HYML markups that could only be seen by WebTv units. There were marquees, custom tables and lists.

    • @muncherelli
      @muncherelli Рік тому +20

      Bet it had some good Yavascript too.

    • @mathiaschalup
      @mathiaschalup Рік тому +1

      No.

    • @cokeunity5652
      @cokeunity5652 Рік тому

      @@mathiaschalup what?

    • @dizzym9554
      @dizzym9554 8 місяців тому

      ahh yes, marquees, custom tables, and lists, which were... a standard part of HTML since basically the beginning...
      What's so WebTV specific about any of that?

  • @davepatchen
    @davepatchen Рік тому +26

    I worked on the marketing team at WebTV from just after launch through 2001 and helped launch and market many of these STB products and many versions of the service. It was a thoughtful and well-designed product for it's time. It had a limited market window since PCs got much less expensive and way easier to use during the time WebTV was most active. But in some ways it was ahead of its time--today my TV does a lot of of the innovative things that WebTV accomplished 25 years ago. The engineering team at WebTV was full of brilliant minds from Apple and General Magic and went on to found Danger, Android and all manner of other amazing technology firms. WebTV was a fun and wild ride at the beginning of an era.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +4

      i'm impressed they managed to get an MPEG decoder in a box with 2MB of RAM, 2MB of ROM, and a 112mhz CPU

  • @NoahClevinger
    @NoahClevinger Рік тому +65

    Another hour long Michael MJD video. How awesome is that!

  • @chirpetstudios
    @chirpetstudios Рік тому +61

    Hey Michael, I have an e-scanner to go with a WebTV system if you want one. I don't have the actual system anymore, but the scanner is in great shape.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  Рік тому +30

      Thanks so much for the offer! My email is michael at teammjd dot com if you want to get in touch with me there and perhaps we can work something out.

  • @UltraPoyoColt
    @UltraPoyoColt Рік тому +24

    It’s so cool to see these being unboxed and set up in 2022! Webtv was cool, and even though I never used it, when there was Jeopardy episodes from the vault airing during the pandemic, a few of those were episodes that supported webtv. Glad I can use this to finally learn all it could do!

    • @UltraPoyoColt
      @UltraPoyoColt Рік тому +3

      AND IT CAN PLAY DOOM? (Alright I’m sold.

  • @skonks
    @skonks Рік тому +4

    Seeing that loading city skyline brought me wayyyy back 😩

  • @BeerMeTV
    @BeerMeTV 7 місяців тому +4

    My parents had one of these when I was a kid. It was my first exposure to the internet. I remember having a digital pen pal, spending lots of time on geocities, and listening to South Park sound bites. Good times.

  • @jestahjava4255
    @jestahjava4255 Рік тому +22

    Xbox Live Insignia and now this?? Glad there are so many talented preservationists out there. I would have gone NUTS for this thing if we had one back in the day. Always loved internet connected things that weren’t just your standard computer.

  • @NXSProductions
    @NXSProductions Рік тому +5

    WebTV was fantastic when it came out. I had my first experience during the summer of 1998 and loved all the chat rooms and the rudimentary (which at the time were revolutionary) websites. Pissed me off, though, that you never could get connected to any Geocities websites (at least I couldn't) and HTML coding on Geocities gave ordinary schlubs like me a chance to have their own personal corner of said web when the net was still the "wild west" of society. I miss those days. Thanks for the content!

  • @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
    @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim Рік тому +11

    love the attention to what every text says and seeing how u blurred out their discord info in the terms of service screens shows dedication during video editing

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB Рік тому +11

    I've had 2 of them in my childhood both with wireless keyboards. Built websites and chatted on tripod, geocities, beseen, twocows, angelfire. They worked better on the net than the 486 PC we had at the time, except the lack of mouse support. Good times.

  • @ChrissehCat
    @ChrissehCat Рік тому +8

    I had the non-plus model with a keyboard. It was already kind of old when I was using it (Probably up into 2001) but man, I just threw the whole thing out about a year ago. :(
    This is so incredibly nostalgic, this is what I used as a teenager before I got a PC. Spent a lot of time using TalkCity chat 😅

  • @dejiko
    @dejiko Рік тому +16

    Hey Michael, looking forward for the Sega Dreamcast version of WebTV!
    Nice video as usual!

    • @xxmichibxx
      @xxmichibxx Рік тому +1

      I was wondering the same thing if this would work

    • @azmifarhan1257
      @azmifarhan1257 Рік тому +1

      It's the one that he teased at the end of the video

  • @kayleigh1991
    @kayleigh1991 Рік тому +26

    An hour Michael MJD video? Sweet

  • @tjentertainmentstudio
    @tjentertainmentstudio Рік тому +8

    This network connection setup is glorious was was absolutely a joy to watch you explain it.

  • @acupuncturekid
    @acupuncturekid Рік тому +11

    This was my first internet experience ever. It was magical during my teenage years. Met so many girls offline.

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell Рік тому +3

      You think you met girls lmao

    • @RainyFoxUwU
      @RainyFoxUwU Рік тому

      @@JaredConnell women do exist

    • @RainyFoxUwU
      @RainyFoxUwU Рік тому

      @@JaredConnell i mean i know they don't talk to you but

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell Рік тому

      @@RainyFoxUwU im saying that nearly every one chatting online at that time claiming to be female was actually a dude

  • @NormanF62
    @NormanF62 Рік тому +8

    I got on the Internet in September 1997 with the original WebTV box. A trip down memory lane here. It would take so much to get it working again, so this is really a niche project. When Microsoft pulled the plug in 2013, it was the end of an era. The glory days of WebTV, sadly, are now in the past.

    • @SheriCarthan-MinistryHelp
      @SheriCarthan-MinistryHelp 11 місяців тому +1

      I saw the sun come up many days while using this thing! Omg! Great times! The sound it made when you hit the return button! It initially had its own chat rooms, then it integrated with TalkCity. TalkCity despised us webtv users. 😂 I preferred the original chat rooms

  • @SmiIeyyXD
    @SmiIeyyXD Рік тому +8

    Loving the way longer content from you, usually like to find videos to relax before going to bed and this is usually what I tend to look for, amazing content as always Micheal.

  • @derekw6811
    @derekw6811 Рік тому +6

    The music is so perfect for this. I’d like to find a Spotify or Apple Music playlist with this vibe.

  • @20EsOfficial
    @20EsOfficial Рік тому +3

    this is incredible! never heard of webtv until this video, but man, this feels so ahead of it's time for back then! thank you for this highly interesting video.

  • @thedariusone
    @thedariusone Рік тому +7

    I wanted one of these so bad as a kid before my first PC in 98. I remember watching the infomercials and begging my dad.

  • @DeaseNootz
    @DeaseNootz Рік тому +8

    So excited for this video! We had one as a kid, and I recently bought the SAME model you unbox here, but since there's no use for them I have yet to hook it up. Glad to watch you do it lol

  • @AerianTelevision
    @AerianTelevision Рік тому +5

    i'm amazed.
    this reminds me when i advertised my scratch projects back in 2020, one had the topic of webtv
    and now it just gets back to me in an 1 hour video
    i'm... honestly kinda surprised

  • @marypaulinem6705
    @marypaulinem6705 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for the memories. WebTv helped bring my parents ( now both gone ) to the internet. Bittersweet.

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 Рік тому +12

    We actually had this model webTV back when it was relevant. I have fond memories of it, and now want to buy one to gut to make a HTPC out of, complete with FLIRC reciever allowing me to use the original keyboard/remote combo. Because I thinkit would be neat.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +1

      A modern HTPC in this case would be pretty sweet.

  • @ypoora1
    @ypoora1 Рік тому +2

    For the time in which this was available, this seems genuinely really cool. The best example of an "Internet appliance" i've seen to date!

  • @ZynSays
    @ZynSays 29 днів тому +1

    This is an unusually modern-looking UI for its time!

  • @rileyowens9033
    @rileyowens9033 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, MJD, for delightful nostalgia with a wonderful side of comedy.

  • @zacharyweber1903
    @zacharyweber1903 Рік тому +15

    Wow, I remember my uncle having this and being absolutely amazed when I was 10 years old.

  • @Moonzari
    @Moonzari 7 місяців тому +1

    This unlocked a memory. My father had one of these around 1999-2000. I thought it was the coolest thing.

  • @ratmdex
    @ratmdex Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video! amazing trip down memory lane

  • @DominicGo
    @DominicGo Рік тому +3

    the ui/ux is so good - i love the look of the menus, and wizard/setup screens (the skeuomorphic keyboard looks so good too)

  • @tribaltroll
    @tribaltroll Рік тому +4

    I convinced my dad to buy this exact model in 1999 for $250. This was back when computers cost about $1000-$2000. Ironically, the web browser was the worst feature and had incompatibility issues with a lot of sites. But the cable TV features were mind blowing and worked great. My dad loved the TV guide feature and I used the VCR recording feature to record morning cartoons since I always slept in too late to catch them on air. Good times.

  • @CubeAtlantic
    @CubeAtlantic Рік тому +2

    i vaguely remember my grandmother, & grandfather having this kind of unique TV set yrs ago it boosts-up memories :)

  • @RJWorrell
    @RJWorrell Рік тому +3

    Webtv was fun 😁 I posted in the forums/ Newsgroups often. Then a year later I bought a computer.

  • @BonchegoBonchego
    @BonchegoBonchego Рік тому +2

    I love web tv. That was my first experience on the web. I’ll never forget it

  • @RetroGamerOG_
    @RetroGamerOG_ Рік тому +3

    My dad used this service used this service and he still remembers it and he loves it even the storage

  • @erikmon1989
    @erikmon1989 10 місяців тому

    This brings back memories, WebTV was my first access to the internet back in '97. We still have our WebTV box & the original keyboard for it. I looked at the back of our WebTV box, it has a port to hook up a wired keyboard to it.

  • @glenndavis6793
    @glenndavis6793 Рік тому +1

    That is so cool. I love the background music as soon as it's up and running I'm joining it.

  • @RRGreiner
    @RRGreiner Рік тому +3

    Firing up the webtv and going to Talkcity, Mystic Shadows Inn while listening to the built in classical music (moonlight sonata in particular) is a POWERFULL memory of my late teens. Such a fun experience

  • @TadanoHitohito
    @TadanoHitohito Рік тому +24

    Hopefully Jarhead includes a way to download TV listings for TV Home. It'd be pretty cool to hook one of these up to a digital TV conversion box and watch OTA TV that way.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +18

      we've taken a look at it before, there is some progress to where you can kinda sorta download premade listings, but we don't understand the file format enough to generate new ones

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +10

      @@MrJ0mmy they're actually quite fast on half the speed, IRC and email don't require a lot of data to be sent

    • @DGTelevsionNetwork
      @DGTelevsionNetwork Рік тому +1

      @@JarHead3894 Are the listings in any way similar to zap2it mce listings? I remember msntv website used to have tv listings that used the exact same format as media center did and I wouldn't be surprised if the codebase was ported from the WebTV acquisition.

    • @JarHead3894
      @JarHead3894 Рік тому +2

      @@DGTelevsionNetwork i've not found any examples of MCE listings, but if they use .ptl then maybe

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e Рік тому

      @@JarHead3894 I hope you can figure it out

  • @upgrade1373
    @upgrade1373 11 місяців тому +1

    The lengths that you guys go to keep things like this running is pretty amazing!

  • @RyanFeatherston
    @RyanFeatherston Рік тому +2

    My grandmother got WebTV around 1998 and she used it until the day she died in 2006.

  • @WatchingDude
    @WatchingDude Рік тому +7

    I remember reading newsgroups back in the day and having trouble with some posts. I eventually found out the troublesome posts were created by a woman who was using webtv and discovered that webtv did not follow the official internet protocols exactly so every time she posted to an newsgroup it would cause problems with my reader because it wasn't formatted properly.

  • @ADreamingTraveler
    @ADreamingTraveler Рік тому +5

    Was really looking forward to this. This thing seemed like it was way ahead of its time

  • @DanburyDK
    @DanburyDK Рік тому +2

    I stayed up late so many nights on talkcity with this box. Making friends all around the world. Good times 🎉

  • @Pretermit_Sound
    @Pretermit_Sound 10 місяців тому

    Wow, this brings back memories. Webtv was a godsend for people in rural areas. I spent a lot of time on here, chatting on talk city, and downloading guitar tablature

  • @Spacebeagle
    @Spacebeagle Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the WebTV & MSNTV2 videos. It was nice to go back in time. I wondered at times what happened to some of the people I knew or knew of on WebTV especially the moderated WebTV official tech news group. Paul Erickson was the king there and I remember Matt Man although Matt I donlt think I corresponded with. Paul made the rocket ship background for me. WebTV was a part of my life and I was sorry to see the service close. I think I still have some units. Thanks for the updates. ⌨

    • @RayHill
      @RayHill Рік тому +1

      Years later, I found out that "EricPaul" / Paul Erickson was the manager at the cafe I went to ever Monday night during the years that I worked at WebTV. Genuinely wonderful human being. He gave SO much value to WebTV users without every being paid a penny by WebTV. And made a mean mocha.

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel9668 Рік тому +13

    Weird that the "Plus" model came with no keyboard. We had the standard model first and later the msntv2 version and they both came with the keyboard. They were both slower than molasses in Januray by today's standard as they were on dialup and it took forever to load a decent picture in an email, but having never had a pc before we thought they were pretty neat at the time.

  • @FogHorn1911
    @FogHorn1911 4 місяці тому +1

    oh boy, I remember getting excited for this at a friends house and then spending half an hour typing out "Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time cheat codes" with the remote control.

  • @joshstephens413
    @joshstephens413 Рік тому +10

    Oh criminy, here there be nostalgia. I remember getting Webtv when my dad signed up for Dish Network satellite service back in the late 90s. I remember spending so much time playing DOOM and You Don't Know Jack and new episodes of You Don't Know Jack would be added to the box periodically and it was so fun. I've always wondered which version of You Don't Know Jack was installed because I would love to play that version again. I haven't ever seen any version listed as being the version ported to Webtv.

  • @MitchM240
    @MitchM240 Рік тому

    Thank you. I enjoyed this video. I had one of these back in the day. I was actually sent here by a comment on another webtv video that mentioned you had a video that showed one functioning with a back end server. Thanks! You got a sub from me.

  • @KazyEXE
    @KazyEXE Рік тому +5

    Really surprised you haven't heard the "it goes to 11" bit, I've never seen the movie but I've heard of that part so many times, it's like a meme before memes were a thing!

    • @SimonQuigley
      @SimonQuigley Рік тому

      Yeah, how could you not know about "it goes to 11"?!

  • @nchw68
    @nchw68 Рік тому +3

    I had a Sony model in the 90's that did not have a printer parallel port built in. I bought the printer adapter for it that directly connected to the right side of the box (expansion port, no cable) which made the unit larger overall. I bought a printer and signed up for 1 month of service on GUBA (Gigantic Usenet Binary Archive) and printed out a lot of naked ladies, ha ha. I also printed out a lot of stereograms on fancier print paper for photos. I still have all the stereograms prints. I spent too much money on printing with the ink and paper. I remember that people would just get a busy signal if they called me while I was online. That was a plus for me if it was my work trying to call me in after hours, lol.

  • @SurgemanX
    @SurgemanX Рік тому +1

    My step brother had one and loved that thing!I always had a desktop,and couldn't stand it! 😂 Thanks for the throw back with this one!

  • @the-np4mr
    @the-np4mr Рік тому +1

    Great memories with these, loved this growing up!

  • @Jurtaani
    @Jurtaani Рік тому +3

    This is fascinating stuff even though i never used these Web tv style boxes myself.
    Closest stuff that i saw was some of those early 2000's Digibox internet things, that would on top of providing DVB-T/C to old analog tv's.
    they also had some simplistic internet browser, with mainly content like enhanced Teletext content.
    with the lure being that it would allow the content be looking like it would on computer with images and all.
    i don't remember if it had email or if the internet was only for those simple websites, nor do i remember the make or model of the thing.
    i only saw that thing sometimes while we visited at my mom's friend.
    kinda wild how we nowadays have similar features build in to our tv's or available as separate android tv/apple tv boxes.
    truly a device ahead of it's time.

  • @adventureoflinkmk2
    @adventureoflinkmk2 Рік тому +3

    To think my online experience started off as a simple bid to try and get a report done for my arts and humanities class and used a flipping WebTV for research and got my humble beginnings. And now it became much more

    • @Krzrrazrrokr
      @Krzrrazrrokr Рік тому +1

      I remember doing research for a school project using my Motorola razr flip phone’s mobile browser. It served its purpose at the time. I found out what I needed.

  • @skylerb2218
    @skylerb2218 Рік тому +1

    I mean when you really think about it, this was a device ahead of its time. Now you've got gaming consoles, TVs themselves doing what this product already imagined a long time ago.

  • @lukajgenti8626
    @lukajgenti8626 Рік тому +1

    So cool, wish to see more videos like this!

  • @TheGodOfAllThatWas
    @TheGodOfAllThatWas Рік тому +4

    I can't remember if you went into it on the other video but webtv really got squeezed out. When Monitors themselves were like $200+ and getting a new internet ready computer was around $1k+ their pricing made sense. But fast forward to the late 90's when emacines were pretending to give computers away for free, and even if you paid for them they were in the 400 to 600 range, the webtv pricing didn't make sense. Disappointed (but not too surprised) printing isn't an option. Feels like YDKJ needs the keyboard. Strange that it's a 2 player engine typically on PC YDKJ is 3 player. Also the ads for acrophobia... I loved that game, those ads were not in the PC YDKJ.

    • @SavvySage
      @SavvySage Рік тому

      The webTV version of You Don't Know Jack is actually a port of You Don't Know Jack the netshow, which was one of five titles (along with Acrophobia) that was part of Berkeley Systems' online service, beZerk, from 1996 (the year of its inception) to 2001.
      The netshow is basically a scaled-down version of the original game, with only 15 questions (compared to 7 or 21 in the retail version), up to 2 player local multiplayer (increased to 3 in a future update), and the audio and animation were downgraded significantly. But the selling points for the netshow were 1. it was free 2. new questions were refreshed weekly 3. you could actually earn cash prizes if you did well on the leaderboard and 4. It had interstitial advertising, which was very innovative for the time, and taken for granted now in the modern streaming and mobile gaming era.
      Christian Thornton (@C WT) actually managed to get the PC version of the netshow working again (minus the ads) using assets from the webTV version found online. You should definitely check out his video on it: ua-cam.com/video/1ocXwYtO49I/v-deo.html
      (P.S. I do plan on covering the netshow in its entirety in my Berkeley Systems documentary I'm working on. *wink*)

  • @beekats
    @beekats Рік тому +3

    i have my gcse mocks tomorrow, hoping this video will bless me with high grades. but seriously, looking forward to a super long michael mjd video!

  • @MusicmanDavid
    @MusicmanDavid Рік тому

    Wow, this brings back so many memories. I loved my WebTV. Like most homes, we had 1 main computer for the house, but I was able to get a WebTV in my bedroom. I had the Sony unit with wireless keyboard and scanner.👍

  • @wickedninja8599
    @wickedninja8599 Рік тому

    Nostalgia big time here! I had the Magnavox MAT965 WebTv with keyboard. That log in road screen was wild to see in the video!

  • @KemmerlingKomputers
    @KemmerlingKomputers Рік тому +3

    man had what i thought was a top of line unit back in the day, a sony unit with all kinds of accessories and stuff but never could talk my mom into the service, i got it for free, but i always dreamed of using it, later on in my life i was an earlier adopter of some android tv boxes, so i guess i got what i wanted but it seemed so advanced back in the day

  • @nebulae87
    @nebulae87 Рік тому +4

    There used to be a WebTV website for the movie ERASER where you could input your info or random info, and create a new identity as if you were entering the witness protection program. Thats about the only thing I remember about WebTV as my aunt was selling them in Albuquerque, NM back in what I believe might've been 97 or 98.

  • @dpeezy615
    @dpeezy615 Рік тому

    This is a great video and great walk down memory lane I remember wanting one when I was younger

  • @rabiroden
    @rabiroden Рік тому

    20:25 Wow, the TV guide screenshot there is a real throwback lol

  • @lwvmobile
    @lwvmobile Рік тому +12

    I'm surprised that didn't come with the keyboard. My family bought the cheap thin WebTV unit and it had the keyboard with it. Now that I think about it though, I can't remember if it came packaged with the keyboard or not though, or if that was a bundle kind of thing where you bought both of them together. I still have the unit and the keyboard in the storage room somewhere, might have to pull it out and try to get that custom server going.

    • @NorthStarBlue1
      @NorthStarBlue1 Рік тому +3

      The keyboard was always an add-on in the pre-MSNTV days I believe, my parents got a first-gen Sony WebTV (which was basically identical to the Phillips model aside from the logo on the front) and the keyboard was a $49.95 extra. I also seem to remember that there were a couple dedicated keys on the keyboard that accessed functions the remote couldn't, so in hindsight it was kind of a mandatory upsell if you wanted the full experience.

    • @lwvmobile
      @lwvmobile Рік тому +1

      @@NorthStarBlue1 Yeah, I remember using the remote once or twice when the batteries in the keyboard were dead. Its pretty lousy. The keyboard has remote keys built in that are nice and clicky and also quite a few shortcut keys if I remember correctly.

  • @FuseboxEllen
    @FuseboxEllen Рік тому +6

    Firstly, thank you for showing this stuff. It was something I saw in computer magazines at the time but my internet access at home was very limited. Secondly, I adore the Eddy Trustman love in your videos.

  • @benjaminvlz
    @benjaminvlz Рік тому

    I was born in 1991 and I didn't know about WebTV when I was a kid. It wasn't until long after the WebTV/MSN TV service was discontinued that I started seeing old WebTV boxes at thrift stores. I didn't know what WebTV was, but I figured it was something related to browsing the web and viewing e-mails on a TV.
    Thanks for demonstrating the WebTV service, so I could get an idea of what it was like. Even though a lot of it was outdated/didn't work, it was still cool to see the stuff that did work and how it worked. If I had the WebTV service when I was a kid, I would've had so much fun with it.

  • @NinjaSteve69
    @NinjaSteve69 Рік тому +1

    I LOVED my webtv growing up, i would sit on it for hours writing and learning html css and Javascript. We were part of a group called TAG - Table Art Guild 🎨 Amazing memories!

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +4

    Oh heck, that chat interface made me realise I’d totally forgotten that PMs were often called whispers back then 😅

  • @phillyguy8541
    @phillyguy8541 Рік тому +3

    I had both versions and even added the optional keyboard and a printer. On the original version you had to sent for a special box to connect to the webtv box into which the printer was plugged. I could not afford a computer. WebTv did everything I wanted at the time and many features were easier to use than similar ones on a PC. Eventually I had to break down and buy a PC which cost me 1200.00 compared with the 300.00 for the WebTV.

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 Рік тому +1

    I remember using that in the late '90s it was ridiculous!
    All the chat rooms. Lol

  • @RecoveringGuitarEnthusiast
    @RecoveringGuitarEnthusiast 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent share. Great memories for me. I snagged a connection snippet and added a link to your awsum video! Thank you very much! Peace and Maximum Respect ~ Loo

  • @discocrisco
    @discocrisco Рік тому +5

    I want copies of all of the sounds. Would love to navigate the modern web with all of the little chimes and click sounds from the old WebTV.
    I don't remember where I got our WebTV stuff, but it was cheap AF. It might have been Goodwill or the clearance section at Wal-Mart. Had a basic model and a keyboard. It wasn't my first experience with the internet, but it was the only way I could afford it at home.

  • @ashcrimson1314
    @ashcrimson1314 Рік тому +8

    Just the perfect video for me to chill out with while I'm trying to get over the flu.

    • @PMG.2
      @PMG.2 Рік тому +3

      This is the very thing I am going through, may you also feel better soon.

    • @ashcrimson1314
      @ashcrimson1314 Рік тому +3

      @@PMG.2 Same to you, seems to be a particularly strong strain going around, at least where I am.

  • @RobBrulinski
    @RobBrulinski 6 днів тому

    Thanks for making this!

  • @michaelbrown2682
    @michaelbrown2682 Рік тому

    Always love you vids my dude, keep it up

  • @cobaltblue1975
    @cobaltblue1975 Рік тому +13

    The "You dont' know jack" game makes an interesting point. The game's fun is tied directly to its era. The references, riddles and jokes are rooted firmly in the time this was made. The older this game gets, the more obscure and difficult the questions will become to answer.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e Рік тому +3

      Not really? At least not the questions here. Both Raising Arizona and This is Spinal Tap came out in the mid 80s, so about 15 years prior to WebTV.

    • @playafly8282
      @playafly8282 8 місяців тому +1

      And the company that made it is still around under the name Jackbox Games!