Morgan Freeman Explains To Keanu Reeves Why We Don't Have Free Energy - Chain Reaction (1996)
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- A scene that I found interesting and that I remastered from the movie "Chain Reaction" starring Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman
o7 to those who dreamed big and were murdered for their patent.
inventers secrecy 1956
open source always. all patents can be seized by military see ISA act of 1952 (Eisenhower)
Name one.
@HC-cb4yp Ning Li, Stanley Meyer, Tom Ogle. The list goes on. The channel The Why Files has an episode about all these people and more that filed for patents on devices, and then ALL of them met with an "untimely demise."
@@tachyon8317 I watched that Why Files episode also, very depressing....
Two things. First, people seem to forget that fuel is not the only product of the petroleum industry. Plastics, Lubracants, asphalt, wax, cosmetics, even pharmaceuticals come from oil so the industry wouldnt vanish. Second, alternative energy would require new industries, new infrastructure, and with those comes new jobs and economic growth.
I'm sure the kids digging cobalt in Africa are waiting for that economic growth.
@@metricton8167yes, much like kids dying under brutal regimes that are kept afloat via oil money. No matter what, unfortunately, there will always be people in parts of the world who get completely shafted, including the kids. Even with green tech, same thing, given what it takes to make batteries, solar panels, etc.
Economic growth is often tied heavily to the cost of energy. Cheap energy means cheap production, cheap transportation, and in turn cheaper food and products, leading to increased consumption and more economic activity. So morgan freeman's argument is completely baseless on that alone. It wouldn't cause the economy to collapse, it would have quite the opposite effect. The main reason we can't move past petroleum to renewable energy now is that renewable is too expensive, at least for now.
Except the other products you mention are side products. The vast majority of oil consumption is for fuels - so regardless of whenever there's still uses for oil the prices would tank.
As to the great and glorious industries the new technology would bring about, sure there may be job growth and development in some areas. But the areas of chief concern would be the areas that hold whatever resources the new technology requires. There have been how many wars that were driven by control over oil rich land? What's going to happen when the world's rich and powerful realize a few formerly underdeveloped countries hold what's required for the new energy breakthrough?
What's more important is the long term benefits of free energy... 50 years of chaos and struggle due to free energy would still be overwhelmingly worthwhile in the millions of years afterwards. Refusing to advance technology for economic reasons is the equivalent of forcing everyone to only use rafts on the ocean because using large ships would threaten the many jobs involving shipping delivery, building, repairs, maintenance and rescues because of rafts.
Now I want Morgan Freeman in a John Wick movie
He is the bowery king.
I want Keanu Reeves as God in Neo Almighty
@@chinaman1That’s Laurence Fishburne
I wish he was apart of the high table.
You can't handle the Freeman!
Morgan Freeman later made up for this role by playing Lucius Fox. Same energy, less malevolence.
didn't you get the memo?
It’s fiction. He didn’t make up for anything.
@@NoThankYouToo You have no sense of imagination, amusement, or humor. I suggest you focus on documentaries and biopics.
Or, to quote Big Trouble in Little China: 'You were not put on this earth to get it, Mr. Burton.'
@@Fatazz "Ehh... I don't get it!"
That's what I was feeling here; like this could have been a Batman movie. Now I want to see Bat-Reeves with Matt Reeves.
"Just doing my job" simply means you're a mercenary. It's not virtuous at all.
Politicians, police, doctors, firefighters(unless volunteers), scientist. All paid to do their job
Okay. So what do you do for a living?
It's not personal, it's strictly business.
@@klei_toriz Exactly. It’s like people think some of us work for the smiles or something.
Not all jobs are "virtuous". Not all jobs should be "virtuous". People romanticize about heroes in the military defeating evil around the world but they are simply trained killers. A political tool. In fact, when you join the military, you are told exactly that. Because if you are not okay with that, then you are meant to quit or wash out. You'll be asked to do things your morality tells you to refuse but you do it anyway because that is the job you took. That is the oath you gave. Because you are expected to grow a brain and play out the options till their conclusion. In chess, you think multiple moves ahead, not just the next one.
Morgan Freeman is correct in this scene. Keanu Reeves is also correct. The problem is: Sometimes there is no perfect solution.
But a choice has to made anyway. Because inaction is unacceptable to any side of an argument. Nature abhors a vacuum.
Make a choice or lose entirely.
"Last thing I wanted to do was for something to happen to him"
10 seconds later
"It had to be done" "It was my decision"
Well, it was a last thing he wanted, but it's still something he wanted
"The last thing I want is to fart in this elevator with all these people."
10 seconds later...
"It had to be done. It was my decision."
😆
He didn't order Alistair's death nor did he want it. He was even pissed off that it happened. But Shannon took responsibility for it because the guy who killed Alistair worked for Shannon. Integrity.
Someone can not want to do something, but still have to do it.
Underrated 90s action movie.
Was a very good movie
@@jjalbers2715 Exactly
I’ve never seen this wtf gonna go watch thanks yall
First time I even hear about this movie. And I should know 1990s movies.
*"YOU **_NEED_** ME ON THAT PARTICLE REACTOR! YOU **_WANT_** ME ON THAT PARTICLE REACTOR ... !" (Oops. Wrong film.)*
You can't handle the boof!
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking when I was listening to Morgan. They had to have known what it sounded like when they wrote this, right? They had to have known they were "borrowing" this from A Few Good Men, right?
@@blynkers1411 My Little Pony: You Can't Hanle the Boop! Boop! #PinkyPieBestLines
they skip the argument where any terrorist with a bathtub of water could take out a city block...as they ACTUALLY PROVED IN THE MOVIE.
"Will let it out at a pace the world can absorb." The argument was simply is the world ready for this massive change.
Much better argument.
I often point out the same thing to nuclear power advocates. Everyone goes on about radiation and nuclear waste... MUCH bigger issue is that the gap between being able to produce nuclear power and nuclear weapons is essentially nil (cf. the freak out over Iran's 'nuclear power' program). Ergo, if the entire world ran on nuclear power... the entire world would have nuclear weapons.
@@ConradDunkerson- No, not really, unless you include dirty non-nuclear bombs.
Uranium bombs are 'trivial' to make; weapons grade Uranium is nigh impossible to make.
Plutonium bombs are nigh impossible to make, weapons grade Plutonium is 'trivial' to make.
I'm much more concerned with engineering, production, storage, and hubris.
@@ConradDunkerson making nuclear weapons isn't that easy. At least MODERN nuclear weapons. The old ones like Little Boy and Fat Man are much easier, but much weaker. The vast majority of countries with nuclear power plants don't have nuclear weapons, among other reasons because even if you have the bomb, you still need the budget/tech to actually launch it. Nuclear IS the way to go for energy. And btw, between Russia, China and USA there are enough nuclear weapons READY TO GO atm that putting 5000 more in the mix would probably make the same difference as shooting a corpse with 27 holes in it.
Except that "Bathtub" would have to be surrounded by hundreds of millions of dollars worth of extremely high end lasers, Transformers, and sencers, all powered by what would essentially be its own full sized power plant on a plot of land that would take up at least 20 acres of space! How do i know this? Because this movie is about fusion power, and we finally did it in real life and THAT is what it took to do it! too bad we still have to figure out how to safely sustain and harness the power it puts out!
Chain Reaction was an AWESOME movie of the 90s! A really great, great movie.
Not really. Forgetable movie
Had an absolutely knockout line buried in it.
FBI agent Leon Ford, played by Fred Ward:
"National security doesn't include murder. Domestically, at least."
Bad CGI now but still a good flick
There must have been something in the air because one year later Val Kilmer starred in The Saint, the other big cold fusion movie.
@@krashdnow THAT'S a great movie
Bruce wayne looks different
That’s because Keanu’s version was animated.
I'd say more Terry Mcginnis
@@shindukess Schway.
Bill S. Preston, Esquire looks different.
This movie is criminally underrated. As a sci-fi suspense thriller, and for the amazing performances of it's ensemble cast. I LOVE this film. It's a crying shame it never really resonated back in the day.
Two reasons it didn't resonate, power, and money
Name?
@@alexisramirez3338 Chain Reaction
The most ironic part is that they are both right even if their visions are contradictory. The problem is that both their visions are also very narrow.
by definition they can't both be right if they contradict each other. If I say, "you need to go up to get to space." and you say "you need to go east faster than 2500m/s" technically we are both correct, but we also don't contradict each other as both are valid ways to get there.
However if one person says "this technology will save the world." and the other says "this technology will destroy the world." they cannot both be right even if they both have perfectly logical and possible conclusions. In the end when the technology comes out it either will or will not destroy everything and one of them will be proven wrong.
@@TheNitroG1you must be very young. Think of the internet. It has done untold damage to society it has also done untold good.
@@TheNitroG1 Nuclear energy great promise and great danger.
@@TheNitroG1 Time is a a factor. Something could very well save the world in forty or fifty years but right now could devastate it. Timing is everything.
@@TheNitroG1 He's right (Morgan Freeman's character) such disruptive technologies have to be rolled out gradually. Which is usually not a problem because practical engineering and logistics constraints mean these things take time. But people don't realize how many work for the oil industry directly or indirectly, and how many people and governments have shares (including their retirement savings plans) in the oil industry and bonds in governments whose GDP depends greatly on oil. If oil prices tanked overnight it would affect just about everyone negatively, people think they'd be better off because they wouldn't need to pay for gas any more but would saving 100$ a month on gas be worth losing half the value of their 401k? Long term it might be a good thing, but the economy does need time to adjust.
"at a pace the world can absorb" - means at a pace in which the greedy and malevolent can monetize it. It would no longer be free energy.
Nothing is free.
Infrastructure costs money to build and maintain. And there is no chance the government is going to do without all those taxes they get from oil.
Free energy isn't free and cannot, with our current level of understanding, be free due to resource scarcity, not just in energy but with all things. The only way it (along with anything else for that matter) would become free is if you have a limitless amount of energy and are able to directly convert energy into matter, into materials, products, machinery, food etc.
@@roji556 Free energy will never exist, its not a matter of level of understanding, its a matter of the passage of time. Even if energy is free, time is still required to accumulate energy. There are already lots of free forms of energy, it just takes too much time to get enough energy.
The time people are willing to spend is a limited resource, even if energy was free, time is not.
Tbh, he's right on that, social media is a great example of that, truth is we can sustain about 1 and maybe 2 at max, societal level inovations per generation, maybe even longer than that, social media is a great example. A lot of the people making laws currently were alive before TVs were a common household item, and from that time, TVs alone got huge developments, not to mention internet, computers, phones, smartphones and currently the one that's showing this issue the most, social media.
Societies as a whole need time to adapt, but maybe more important than that, the law also has to catchup to inovation, but we're not letting it, do you think that social instabilty keep inscreasing at a faster and faster pace for no reason? This is one major factor.
There's no lack of evidence on the bad effects social media has been causing, on mental health, rigging elections and swaing popular belief, so on and so forth. Tbh, might be an unpopular belief, but forced slow down of certain types of tech inovation might be for the best, we're like babies that have been given guns.
@@monad_tcp devices have been invented that require a meniscal amount of power to run but draws infinite energy from the ether. The people that invented said devices were bought out or killed. Do your own research. Tesla was working on something similar and when JP morgan found out he couldn't make money off it he pulled Tesla's funding.
Later he gave all that tech to Batman.
He'll help this one time, but as long as it's at Wayne Enterprises, he won't be.
A younger old Morgan Freeman.
And yet, recession and global economic collapse happened anyway. The backbone of oil, became a weakness.
It is a movie doofus :P
Global economic collapse? Grow up.
Recessions are planned and required... a market that goes slowly climbs in a straight line provides no liquidity .. and is nothing more than a pyramid scheme. the end result would be that everyone has no advantage, and everyone has nothing to strive for. they simply wait to be fed. search what the cons if we never have a recession...
🙄 No it didn't, you drama queen. We had a couple of recessions in the past few decades, big whoop. They sucked, but the economies of the world ground on uninterrupted. The worst that happened was that supply chains and just-in-time logistics got fucked over by the various Covid measures that world's governments tried out. That is not economic collapse, it is just large-scale economic inconvenience. You'll know if there was an ACTUAL economic collapse, because you won't be able to cry about how hard things are on the internet because the internet won't be functioning.
Definitely the collapse of civility based on the comments.
If you think realistically, without bias, and listen to Morgan Freeman's character, he probably has a good point.
Mr. Freeman's shoes are on point.
The one time Morgan Freeman played a bad guy, but still came off as a good guy!
There was the other time in Wanted.
@@tortenschachtel9498 he didn't come off as good in that one though
He has a few
@@sethaldrich6902 Oh, i misunderstood jcbvortex22 then.
One of the few actors who can make an antagonist sympathetic.
Dude, that's John Wick you're playing with. 😅
That´s The God, he can handle it.
@@szylaj You can lay down to sleep, and pray to God your soul to keep. If you die before you wake, the "Boogeyman" finds your soul to take.
It all makes sense now, he lost his science career and went into hiding for awhile and learned a new career in assassination work while training in personal defense to protect himself from any of the corporate hitmen still trying to take him out.
Freeman devours the scene, dialogue, set and reeves by simply walkinng around calmly talking. Man knows his stuff.
Freeman is telling lies. Tesla had free energy for us, but the rich want endless big money and power, not free energy and freedom to happen. Their so called 'worries' are all excuses and false arguments.
That voice...
The story of N Tesla. He wasn't killed, but he was defunded because of the possible production of free energy/non petroleum based energy.
The flaw in having "free energy" is thinking that it will be "free". You still need to pay people to manage and maintain the infrastructure, not to mention replacing damaged parts while being able to harness the energy itself. Now, an argument can be made that by maintaining a dependence on fossil fuels, particularly from foreign sources, you can maintain a level of stability overseas, particularly in area of human migration.
Get a load of this guy, never heard of taxes used for maintenance of public services.
Countries that require fossil fuel revenue to survive are not more important than the rest of the world. They can adapt to the free market as is required.
@@brandon27025 I mean, nothing he said precluded the idea that the people in question could be paid with government funds, so I'm not sure what you're on about there with that first line. Second one was on point though.
@rmartinson19 Nothing I said precluded him from precluding anything; I'm not sure what you're on about.
Stating that infrastructure requires maintenance isn't exactly a groundbreaking gotchya moment, is it?
"Um actually it's not free as we still need to maintain it."
Golly.. what a concept. Call everybody!
@@brandon27025 I'm still not sure what your point is. He said you'd still have to pay people to maintain it. He didn't specify WHO would need to be doing the paying, but it doesn't really matter since the point was that energy is always going to cost somebody something to produce and distribute. But then you acted like pointing out that government funds could be used to do that was some sort of gotcha against him. You're basically agreeing with him in a bizarrely hostile way, and acting like he's an idiot for saying the thing you agree with. It's damned confusing from the outside.
@rmartinson19 List of things I'm going to make fun of:
1. "Um actually, it would cost money to maintain the infrastructure. So it's not free."
No shit.
There. Does that help?
Should've been "God explains to John Wick why we don't have free energy"
Those in power keep it by controlling those who have none. That's all you had to say, Red.
Even if the source of energy is free, it still costs money to transmit it and maintain the infrastructure.
You are mistaken. A true 'free energy' device would be anything from a tesla tower to a zero-point flux field energy generator. (Which is about the size of a microwave.) A tower would cover an entire cities suburb without an issue. There is no need for the high tensile powerlines, or the massive infrastructure of today's power grid.
@sin-text857 There still has to be something to process the energy to make it usable. Technology doesn't come without a continuing cost. Best you can do is make it cheap. Are you familiar with TANSTAAFL?
@sin-text857 its still taking up infrastructure. There still needs to be a place to house it.
@@sin-text857you going to use salvaged materials and slap together a tower, that every resident in the area will depend on, with no engineering, environmental studies, maintenance that was put together by volunteers? The same kind of people that brought the world CHAZ/CHOP would be the same kind volunteering to build your salvaged material Tesla towers.
@@sin-text857 - You didn't hear a single bloody thing that guy just said, just went on with your pre-programmed nonsense about Tesla.
so glad they made a movie to show how Lucius Fox kept Wayne Corp going
Morgan Freeman is, in my humble opinion, as good at what he does as any actor ever, period.
What you wrote doesn’t mean what you think it means 😂
@@eyespy3001 do tell
@@kelleysimonds5945 You’re trying to say “Morgan Freeman is better than any actor ever at what he does.” But what you said instead was “Morgan Freeman is just as good as any other actor,” which is basically saying “Morgan Freeman is alright,”
@@eyespy3001 no, the meaning is, no actor exceeds his ability. Your inference, that this suggests he is only average, is incorrect.
@@kelleysimonds5945 It’s not an inference. It’s what you wrote, my guy. “As good as” means equal to.
When you see the Why Files episode on free energy and anti-gravity, and find out all the people that got it were visited by the government and/or met an "untimely demise"
Not all. He also said that patents of that kind happen all the time. Are those people killed as well?
He also only talks about the US. What about Europe, Asia, South America? If this technology is that easy, why does it not just exist somewhere in the Internet?
No they just got defunded
And in a tangential event, two whistle-blowers in the Boeing scandal both meet an "untimely demise".
There is no free energy or anti-gravity. Those violate the laws of physics.
The best we have now is cheap...safe...clean...always on nuclear energy. Carbon-free.
@@timberry4709 yes, in the German NSU as well, but those are a few. The why files implied a large number of people
Two actors destined to be HUGE.
These two actors were already huge. They just got bigger.
@@DanielS2001 at the time, they were becoming huge. I watched this movie when it came out. Matrix and Shawshank (reboot) did the rest.
nah, they will always be small time actors trying to scrape two coins together..... (snarkiness)
@@MusicAsWeMakeIt Bill & Ted, My Own Private Idaho, Point Break and Speed wasn't huge? Glory, Lean on Me, Driving Miss Daisy, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Unforgiven, Seven and The Shawshank Redemption wasn't huge? And those were the films that they made before Chain Reaction.
@@DanielS2001 they were among many other stars including Kevin Costner or Tom Cruise. Today, the four are the pinnacle of Hollywood. Then, they were just part of the larger group of great 90s actors.
The quickest way to improve quality of life is a combination of cheaper energy and transportation, paired with morality and education. Free energy would only help.
If you're smart you don't dump free energy.
You start an energy company and distribute energy …
Didn't work out for Tesla did it. The other big players stole his ideas, buried everything while ridiculing him, and left him in financial ruin. Been using the same playbook ever since.😮
@@0wl999What didn't work for Tesla was the laws of physics, the rest is invention by people who want a simple world with good guys and bad guys.
@@0wl999 they also shunned ac for dc thats why we got power lines tesla was jesus Edison tortured elephants at the behest of jp morgans money to destroy everyones freedom for profit
@@0wl999 isn't that Telsa crap just a fantasy?
@@unusualaussie9606 It's about half and half, Tesla really did invent and lay the foundation for pretty much the entirety of our modern technological infrastructure. He was also screwed out of a lot of personal credit and money for his work during his lifetime. Where the bs comes in is the overstating of external factors and the very convenient glossing over the fact that Tesla was a horrendous businessman, completely inept at all forms of marketing and monetizing his creations. While his contemporaries/competitors, like Edison, were more cutthroat in the end Tesla was his own worst enemy. Though it should be noted that the US government (particularly the FBI) was very shady after his death, confiscating a lot of his work and notes after his death (interesting note: Donald Trump's uncle was on the team to analyze Tesla's confiscated material).
Case in point - look at mandating EVs. The companies jump all-in and are struggling now. EVs were progressing nicely but dropping the mandates caused a ripple effect no one was ready for
Mandating something the infastructure can't support is pretty silly.
all of those green energy plans were to repay the investments of democrat donors. As always. Just look at the Tesla situation. How much money did Nancy's husband make off of buying tesla stock right before an announcement of a big government contract with Tesla...
You can't fix stupid, nor can you fix politicians.
someone played the stocks though just like green bonds
Nikola Tesla drove an EV, which didn't need to get charged because it was pulling electricity from the thin air. That's what the zero point energy concept was all about.
One of my favorite Keanu Reeves films. Great cast.
Whats it called? Don't no how I missed this one!!!
@@Joshtre12 Chain Reaction. Rachel Weisz was in it too. Early in her career. She looks so young.
@@fw1421 I just watched it. Again. Apparently there is a plus to getting older and forgetting things! Lol
@@Joshtre12 Yep,for me my memories are my most cherished thing.
Eddie, it's only "free" if you don't consider the cost of the infrastructure (support staff, equipment, maintenance).
Shannon, it's amazing the mental gymnastics people will go through in order to justify what they do to maintain their position of power.
When considering the notion that free energy would cause the world's markets to crash, I call BS.
Home, businesses, etc, would use it. But, motor vehicles, aircraft, ships, etc. couldn't (if ever) for decades.
It's the same issue we have with wind & solar: there isn't a storage mechanism for power produced.
No, the main issues we have with wind and solar is that they are unreliable, unpredictable, and painfully inefficient. They'll never be anything more than a weird stopgap measure, because there's just not that much energy density there to be harnessed. The only "clean" energy source that has any hope of producing the kind of steady, controllable, high-output power that modern civilization requires is geo-thermal, but the extreme costs and engineering challenges that method entails make it unappealing in the short-to-medium term. Fusion power would be ideal, but Fusion has been "just 20 years away" since the 1950s. Fission is the more realistic and practical option, but it's too politically toxic to ever be seriously implemented.
If anything the stock market would go up. Things like server farms, air conditioners, electric cars, aluminum smelting, water distillation, concrete production, food production, and host of other things become alot more feasible if not downright cash cows. The only people pissed off would be the oil companies.
But given that now everyone in the third world can get a air conditioner, an electric car, and build a new home cheaper then I doubt they'd be unhappy for long.
Nearly free electricity would probably bring on something in-between a new computer age or a second industrial revolution.
Morgan's pointed out that his bosses, who pay him to do the 'dirty work', will go down in that case. Nobody ever cares about your average Joe
@@queterian1526 How does this apply to my comment about markets not collapsing?
There would be no need for storage if all the grids on earth were connected. Nuclear is the best bet for reliable energy that's clean.
But the energy wouldn’t be free. It would be taxed.
Dude shouldn't have been a Boeing whistleblower. :D
Keanu is such a great guy, he can only play the good guy in films.
It may seem harsh, but everything Morgan Freemen said about releasing that type of information without constraints was absolutely correct.
Or maybe containing something hotter than the sun and successfully tapping it for energy is just a really hard problem. Nah, it must be a massive conspiracy.
A "hard problem" that's been solved, so yeah, it's a conspiracy, or rather, a religion. Nuclear Energy is not the same as Nuclear Weapons.
You dont understand heat vs temperature and vacuums do you?
@@AeonStaite So it’s very low density? I always thought the problem was that no material could withstand the plasma without melting which is why we used magnets, but it sounds like that’s not correct?
@@Detson404 It's kind of the opposite. Any material the plasma comes in contact with would instantly suck away the heat and destroy the plasma, the magnetic torus contains the plasma to keep it intact.
@@barrymcguffin6119 Thanks for providing a substantive answer, unlike that @AeonStaite douche.
This is my favorite part in the whole movie which explains so much.
Imagine Morgan as "The Architect." 🤯
It's the Supernatural bunker!
Whatever. Petroleum is only partly used for energy production. You know how many products come from petroleum? Those things still need to get made.
Lol what a clown. Yeah the world really needs more single use plastics and vaseline.
You mean like the 'plastics' that are slowly killing us all, those products?
I love this movie back then, and it's even more relevant now as an engineer.
Keanu Reeves doesn't have much range. I like him but he's no Marlon Brando.
Agreed. Same goes for 60% of the modern day actors. Put them in a DC or Marvel suit and they're fine, put them in a REAL skin and they suck majorly!
Fear mongering nonsense, Mr. Freeman.
I love his transitional movies. You can really see Keanu grow as an actor.
It’s about time for Keanu plays a villian
Dark pyramid of Alaska! Mount motherf-ing Hayes!
Nah…fudge u…..that sheet doesn’t exist….
Before we had ready access to crude oil we had whale oil.
Rockefeller made the Standard Oil company. It put whale oil out of business overnight.
The economy didn't crash.
Here's why:
Jobs were destroyed and towns built on whaling became ghost towns
but;
other jobs were made and new towns founded.
Whale oil was replaced in oil lamps and factory lubricants. Those industries kept chugging along.
Adjacent industries like sailing and ship maintenance took a blow but built up other markets.
Free energy is vague.
Stuff like H-fuel cells would replace gasoline, but not jet fuel.
Something like Tony Stark's Arc Reactor would close many power plants, but open new ones.
The US Dollar is the reserve currency of the world. Europe's idea after WW1. It is supported by Oil
The economy would adapt and survive.
....and Rockerfeller saved the whales to boot
@@user-yp9fb1jb6m I... did not think about that, but...sort of, yeah.
except the job conversion is not 1 for one. with automation man power gets cheaper. as automation continues it cuts a thousand jobs and makes 100. continue that trend a dozen times you end with rock bottom wages and mass unemployment. with mass unemployment the companies gain disproportionate power and use it to gain more power and wealth, driving things down till the population begins to revolt. how do I know this to be true? simple we have been there before with the rise of industrialization in Europe and Britain. eventually it ended with the founding of unions and such that forced things like labour standards, job protections etc. while change is inevitable it is a fool that thinks drastic changes don't come with very serious ripple effects that can and have destroyed nations.
@@kertagin1 First, we aren't talking about automation. We are talking about resources. Specifically those involved in energy. I know I mentioned lubricants with oil, but that was to note such things aren't one note. Second, the wider argument is if the market will collapse from allowing a free flow of new ideas and technology. If you narrow your vision of the market, as you are doing, it of course seems unsustainable and prone to collapse.
Let's move away from energy to automation. Centuries ago we needed hundreds of scribes to reproduce books. With the invention of the printing press that need was drastically reduced. Those jobs were ended but other industries appeared, like newspapers with writers, editors, publishers, cartoonists, and later photographers. Plus, more industries expanded, like schools, book stores, paper factories and the lumber industry.
Decades ago secretaries were replaced with computer programs that could better manage the work load. Computers like books became a more common thing, and made many new jobs.
An individual can't guess what will come next because it takes one out of hundreds of millions to think of it. That is the beauty of the market. The market falls when small groups try to control it. It falls because they prevent the creation of what would stabilize it.
We are not talking about an old tree replacing a new tree. It is an expanding forest.
@@zacharysheetz3701 😟holy fudging sheet wtf man….that weed must be strong man…..
This exchange reveals clearly the mindset of corporates and governments when it comes down to greed.
We need a Batman starring Keanu Reeves.
We are on the most profitable pathway to extinction.
Power and money is what it's about. The problem is that most of you think these movies are purely entertainment with no hidden messages, and by the time you figure it out we'll be living in Mega-City One (as if we're not already living in a tyrannical dystopia).
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Mouse Utopia but with us.
There are no hidden messages, and if we lived in a tyrannical dystopia you would have been picked up and disappeared for making that comment, you big drama queen.
Excellent point. There’s a really good movie with Justin Timberlake called “In Time”. Really drives home the rigged class system in our society.
And if you think we will ever live in a upotia society you are even more delusional. America is not the shiney beacon it would like everyone to think it is. But I'm pretty sure it's a lot better then North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudden, El Salvador, or even Romania is.
Twenty year old movie but the truth remains the same.
This movie is essentially a true story. E-Systems was renamed C-Systems, presumably to avoid lawsuits.
Free energy. Would literally set the economy ablaze with productivity. Everyone havi g it means no more reseource scarcity which means people wont need money in the way we think of it now.
Also petro will still be needed due to their use in multiple goods. So all the oil companies would take a big hit to the wallet in the short term but still be profitable in the long run.
@trenchtierstudios554 i mean with free energy we could replace oil via other processes
I've said it thousands of times.
The only reason we don't have free energy can be said in two words.
Human greed.
Are you going to work for free to invent free energy?
Are you going to work for free to maintain the source of free energy?
Are you going to work for free to maintain transmission of the free energy?
The reason we don't have free energy is because
It's impossible currently
Reeves could have been the best Batman.
Damn they were both so young.
This is the problem with bureaucrats. They think of an outcome that is narrow minded at best. How narcissistic it is to think you know best for an entire society.
AMEN!!
that's hierarchy for you, been working like that for all the mammals
Every engineer and economist is facepalming at this Hollywood script. It says a lot more about how clueless Hollywood writers and actors are about how the world actually works.
The scariest thing is that scenes like this can be made without anyone questioning how stupid it is, and shown in theatres without everyone walking out of the stupid movie.
Yes. Yes, it does.
@@SamBrickell This is how ignorant people get indoctrinated into socialism.
There is not a single software engineer looking around going "Yeah this is working out well for everyone".
...I watch the wonderful Mr. Freeman here and can't help but think of his character being 'an evil Lucious Fox'...
Just because Morgan Freeman is the bad guy, and his motivation may be more financial than benevolent, doesn't mean he's wrong.
I remember watching this movie and not fully understanding the implications of what they are trying to say. They didn't say it directly, but the tech has been hidden since 1946. The more I look into it, the more I realize that compared to how we could be living this is the stone age.
Nonsense. And watching videos by conspiracy yahoos on UA-cam is not research.
no
1 in 2 adults is obese/severely overweight. Gee, ya think that might be our energy problem?
Ask your husband
No its emotional problem
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It takes a lot of energy for an entire nation and soon to be entire world to be obese.
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That's the cause.
I was speaking to the result: massive energy usage.
However, the economy would crater if everyone went on a diet.
@@basicprogrammer6147 It's not like going on a diet means eating half the foods. At least if it's done intelligently, it's mostly eating _different_ foods. Just getting all the HFCS out of our diets would probably trim 40 pounds of the mean weight of American adults, as long as they didn't find something worse to replace it with.
Good acting! Morgan has a point with the economies of the world, but we are going to have to deal with these issues sooner or later if we want to or not. Change hurts.
I'm not Morgan Freeman. I know that, because I do voice-overs for company presentations. When I ask colleagues to critique my work, the first thing they say is, "Well, you're not Morgan Freeman."
almost 30 years later and Morgan didn't age.....he really is God :D
Four years ago I met one of the people who was on the actual project who did this in the 1990's. This movie is based on them and the actual project. This movie fictitiously adds considerably to what happened. However, the team was real, the project was real, they had a fully functional system. As I'm told, the team one morning went to the project site, it was empty, the team was permanently dismissed, and they were gently reminded of the non-disclosure documents that they all signed. I remember following this project on the news (what very little was reported) as a kid and I thought it odd that all news releases went silent. I never dreamed that I'd actually meet one of the people envolved. The company that this project was under, now sells TVs....
the last 5 years or so the USSR put a lot of money into the fusion project. With the collapse the scraped it. A decade late the EU was asked what ever happened to the fusion project. They said it was to expensive. In reality it wasn't, not considering the overall budget.
Who truly thought the universe would ever reward energy in exchange for no work? Even a child could point out the irreconcilable imbalance.
The movie might not be Oscar worthy or be anywhere near as good as movies like Shawshank Redemption but I bet it helped the Wachowski's in their decision in casting Neo, one of the coolest characters and best sci-fi action movies of all time.
Also, looking at their IMDb's, Morgan has been working solidly since 1964 and Keanu since 1984. Morgan was acting for 25 years before he got his really big break in Driving Miss Daisy in 1989. Keanu got his break in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure in 1989 after 5 years of acting. Just goes to show, even for an amazing actor like Morgan it can take a long time to be successful.
Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) dreamt of those same dreams - free energy and improved technology for the World. They buried him for decades and we only finding out about him in the past 15 years.
Rubbish. Wireless transmission of power is crap, which is why we don't use it. And that is not the same thing as "free energy" which is far beyond Tesla's primitive capabilities.
Past 15 years? The Tesla cult has been around for decades, it just didn't have the Internet to get broadcast as widely until the 2000s.
An intriguing fantasy if you're 12, I guess.
Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann experiments just got funding from Google the experiment from 1989 where they made excess energy
Nothing is free except your soul
Detective Logan? This is Deputy Van Halen down at the station. We found your keys... if you want 'em, better come and get 'em.
the magnetic north pole contains perpetual energy.... all we do is surround this location with a non-magnet collar.... hmmm....
Not perpetual. It wouldn't last forever. But there would be a LOT of energy and it might last long enough for us to find alternatives.
motion is 24/7 since day one.... hmmm....
That's not how any of this works. Would be nice if it did.
@@user-gx5uk8ck9n Eventually the innards of the world will cool, the outer core will solidify, and the convection currents that power the magnetic field will stop, just as happened on Mars. But that probably won't happen in the lifetime of our species.
However, tapping that energy won't be that easy. There's a lot of energy but it's spread out over millions of square miles. The energy density at any given location is very, very, very low. You'll get thousands of times, maybe millions of times, more power of a solar panel or wind turbine in a more temperate zone than you will get for even a 100% efficient facility of the same size tapping into the earth's magnetic field.
13 year old me would agree with Keanu, 45 year old me understands Morgan.
He's right. The world would rip itself apart if suddenly half the population no longer could go to work tomorrow.
Very true.
However the problem is that keeping the status quo will lead to destruction. The fall of the Roman Empire and the 750 years of Dark Ages that followed proved that.
Meanwhile, changing the status quo will ALSO lead to chaos, BUT the difference is it will also force humanity to innovate... like it did following the Bronze Age collapse, and the end of Feudalism.
Right now the East is rising while the West destroys itself under corporate, political, and societal corruption and greed. And both China and Russia are working hard to create that 'free energy' replacement (fusion) that while having the potential to destroy Russia's current golden goose (oil and nat gas), it will at the same time destroy the West's ability to compete.
All of history is measured in cycles and pendulum swings... as well as proving you can't stop innovation, seek to control it by those currently in power.
“In a world of change, the learners shall inherit the earth, while the learned shall find themselves perfectly suited for a world that no longer exists."
The world has weathered greater shocks. The fear of change has caused many ills on this world.
@@nicholasdickens2801 But the world isn't primed to explode the way it is these days. Introducing the technology, slowly makes more sense than dropping it on us.
It would be like handing a group of kindergarteners a loaded gun.
51 year old me agrees with 13 year old you.
The only people who lose are those in power.
@@mr.mediocregamer9653 I didn’t say it would or would not.
More energy means more industry and consumption , which is good for economics. Never underestimate human desire for consumption.
Free energy overnight would cause a collapse. If you slowly roll it out in 5-10 years, no problem. Morgan’s character is correct.
The world can't absorb the rate of pronouns, let alone energy.
Zi agree with xu/xhum. (Hope Zi got that right, wouldn't want to microaggress.)
I would love to see a sequel to this movie, Chain Reaction.
"All about money and power right?"
"its a bit more complicated than that~"
*a few moments later*
"So yea, stock markets and all that..."
Had to google the title because i could remember, but it's called chain reaction and its great movie.
Thankyou!!!!
Actually, we have low tech solutions right now. If we learn how to make metallic hydrogen, we can transport it cheaply and wisely over great distances.
Chain reaction is the name of this movie just in case your wondering...
Was it not in the title of the video when you commented?
*When Nicola Tesla died the FBI raided his offices , broke into his safe and took 600 files. Years later the FBI said they had returned the files they took to the Tesla museum in Budapest. 30 of the files were missing!*
Shannon (Freeman) was not the one who ordered Alistair's death. He was even pissed that it happened. But he went ahead and took responsibility.
The 90s loved a good, "You can't handle the truth!" speech.
Can't not can
@@josephherrera6656 edit complete thank you!
Missed this one!
I think I read once ages ago that this movie didn't do well when it hit theaters. I think it was because it wasn't Point Break 2 maybe? Yet seems so obvious to me now that it was intended to be quite a fire starter. The world based in hypothesis and logic is Keanu. While the entire machine based in deep data and logic, self righteousness, greed, fear, and control of the truth is Freeman.
Brilliant.
Love living in a system where Free energy is considered a bad thing.
It's not a documentary
Many have been silenced for that very reason.
Not to change the subject but has anybody noticed the commonalities that exist with this movie and Harrison Ford's "The Fugitive". Nearly the entire supporting cast is in both movies. Some of the names used for characters is more than coincidental in my opinion. Lots of interesting stuff like that...
three days of the condor.
i saw that movie as a child. that's when a big part of my childhood ended.
i'll always remember it.
Two other good movies where Morgan Freeman plays the bad guy very well.
The Contract (2006)
Street Smart (1987)
Like many other underrated stuff.