The CRAZIEST CHEATING CONTROVERSY of the 1974 NFL Season | Bengals @ Oilers (1974)

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  • During the 1974 NFL season, Cincinnati Bengals head coach Paul Brown accused the Houston Oilers of cheating, since Oilers head coach Sid Gillman didn't send the Bengals game tapes in time. What followed was a bitter feud between two of the greatest coaches in the history of the sport. This is the story behind one of the biggest controversies in football in 1974
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    Members of the 1974 Bengals:
    Wayne Clark
    Ken Riley
    Ken Anderson
    Horst Muhlmann
    Charlie Joiner
    Essex Johnson
    Lemar Parrish
    Ken Sawyer
    Bernard Jackson
    Chip Myers
    Charlie Davis
    Lyle Blackwood
    Bob Jones
    Lenvil Elliott
    Tommy Casanova
    Dave Green
    Boobie Clark
    Ed Williams
    Doug Dressler
    Vic Koegel
    Ken Avery
    Doug Adams
    Bob Johnson
    Jim LeClair
    Tim Kearney
    Evan Jolitz
    Al Beauchamp
    Ron Pritchard
    Dave Lapham
    John Shinners
    Bill Kollar
    Ron Carpenter
    Rufus Mayes
    Howard Fest
    Pat Matson
    Mike Reid
    Stan Walters
    Vern Holland
    Bob Maddox
    Ken Johnson
    Al Chandler
    Royce Berry
    Sherman White
    Bob Trumpy
    Isaac Curtis
    John McDaniel
    Bruce Coslet
    Paul Brown (head coach)
    Members of the 1974 Oilers:
    Ken Burrough
    Skip Butler
    David Beverly
    Dan Pastorini
    Lynn Dickey
    George Amundson
    Al Johnson
    Willie Alexander
    Billy Parks
    Zeke Moore
    Vic Washington
    Mike Montgomery
    John Charles
    Leonard Fairley
    Willie Rodgers
    Bob Gresham
    C.L. Whittington
    Terry Wells
    Tommy Maxwell
    Fred Willis
    Jeff Severson
    Jeff Queen
    Ronnie Coleman
    Bob Atkins
    Duane Benson
    Fred Hoaglin
    Gregg Bingham
    Ralph Cindrich
    Guy Roberts
    Steve Kiner
    Marvin Davis
    Ted Washington
    Harris Jones
    Ronnie Carroll
    Ron Saul
    Elvin Bethea
    Brian Goodman
    Solomon Freelon
    Ed Fisher
    Bubba McCollum
    Kevin Hunt
    Greg Sampson
    Elbert Drungo
    Al Cowlings
    Sid Smith
    Curley Culp
    Jim White
    Mack Alston
    Jerry Broadnax
    Billy "White Shoes" Johnson
    Tody Smith
    Sid Gillman (head coach)
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  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 3 роки тому +32

    Just imagine how upset Paul Brown would have been if it had been the Browns rather than the Oilers not sending him the film on time.

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 2 роки тому +1

      surprised Model didn't sue Brown for plagiarizing the Browns' uniform set with those early Bengals uni's.

    • @mikemcdonald6004
      @mikemcdonald6004 2 роки тому

      Getbenched the fact paul brown won model 10 afl championships is probably why he gave brown a pass far as similar uniforms

    • @bobma6342
      @bobma6342 Рік тому

      ​@@GetBenched2010 So am I......I'm surprised the league never stepped in and said, "The uniform looks too close to the Cleveland Browns. Get another color scheme."

  • @toddbiesel4288
    @toddbiesel4288 3 роки тому +31

    Well, at least we never had another instance of the Bengals and Oilers coaches feuding with one another

    • @revevil
      @revevil 3 роки тому +10

      Or a team from Houston being accused of cheating

    • @bluemoon95
      @bluemoon95 3 роки тому +1

      Lol

    • @jmad627
      @jmad627 3 роки тому +1

      I know…right?! LOL!!

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 3 роки тому +1

      The man at 3:28 would agree with you.

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 3 роки тому +18

    Fun Fact about the early Bengals. They made the playoffs in the 3rd year of existence(1970). That year they started off 1-6. They won 7 in a row to finish 8-6 and won the division. They were shutout by the Colts in the playoffs.

    • @Gutbomber
      @Gutbomber 3 роки тому +3

      Wow

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 3 роки тому +7

      That also marked the start of what became known as the “West Coast Offense”.

    • @thebrotasticbro9465
      @thebrotasticbro9465 2 роки тому +4

      That colts team won the super bowl too

  • @brianthomas2434
    @brianthomas2434 3 роки тому +6

    At 5:40 it took me a criminally long time recognize the gentleman speaking to Coach Gilman: Ed Sabol, something of a pioneer in the use of film as well!

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 3 роки тому +7

    Without Gillman and Brown, sports (not just the NFL) would look a lot different due to the difference in preparation.

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos 3 роки тому +22

    Wow. Great video again. Never heard of this controversy from 1974. What a story. Nice job laying this out--Talk about a bitter feud, for sure!

    • @nasetvideos
      @nasetvideos 3 роки тому +5

      And great video footage of the entire sequence too

  • @HipsterShiningArmor
    @HipsterShiningArmor 3 роки тому +12

    This is the first time I've ever heard a story of Paul Brown being gracious towards another NFL head coach lol

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 роки тому +10

    6:15 The OIlers player getting this sack is Ted Washington, the father of the massive DT Ted Washington Jr., who was drafted by the Chiefs in '72 but never played a down for them. So it's a good revenge moment for him personally. He also had 11 sacks that season, the only double digit sack season of his career.

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz 3 роки тому +5

    I read somewhere back then that NFL policy stated that teams had to send their THREE most recent game tapes out to their next opponent.
    Al Davis in his earlier years with the Raiders was criticized by other teams for sending out poor quality game film that made it more difficult to break down. It went as bad as it was nearly impossible to identify the players uniform numbers on screen.
    Has anybody else ever heard something similar?

  • @SteelerFanInRI
    @SteelerFanInRI 3 роки тому +13

    Lol the idea of the Oilers calling Paul Brown a senile old man made me laugh before even watching the video; it just sounds so hilariously petty.

    • @orbyfan
      @orbyfan 3 роки тому +3

      As Maxwell Smart would say, "Look, I hope I wasn't out of line with that crack about "senile."

  • @noladol
    @noladol 3 роки тому +10

    "There was nothing for them to do without the film." I mean, a good coach would have come up with something...

  • @gregbailey1753
    @gregbailey1753 3 роки тому +6

    The Bengals also had 11 starters out that season due to injury. This included Isaac Curtis, Boobie Clark, Essex Johnson and a good chunk of offensive line including Anderson for the last game and a half. That 17-10 victory over the Steelers was my first pro game and I was a Bengals and Ken Anderson fan for his whole career.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 роки тому +27

    The 63-year old Gillman calling the 66-year old Brown senile was the cringiest part IMO.

    • @TR19
      @TR19 2 роки тому +4

      I have seen 50 year old men that were senile, and 70 year old men that are sharp as a tack.

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 2 роки тому +1

      @@TR19 You completely missed the point.

    • @TR19
      @TR19 2 роки тому

      @@CatsClaw44 wooossshhhhh

  • @danmount9462
    @danmount9462 3 роки тому +5

    "It is what it is" is the most common line

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 роки тому +18

    The truth is Gillman actually WAS cheating that season, by using an illegally large taxi squad, and was fired by Bud Adams for it among other questionable things he was doing.

  • @akbarlebowitz8151
    @akbarlebowitz8151 2 роки тому +4

    Houston Oilers!! Bring back the powder blue helmets!! Oh, wait!!

  • @chadwickwhite6107
    @chadwickwhite6107 3 роки тому +18

    Well THIS CONTROVERSY is CERTAINLY WAY BETTER than SPIKING the BALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!

    • @stevensmith7439
      @stevensmith7439 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, but first, let’s put that into context….

    • @stuartmartin2615
      @stuartmartin2615 3 роки тому

      But what would the passer rating be if you did that

    • @bw-leftturnracing7779
      @bw-leftturnracing7779 3 роки тому

      @@stuartmartin2615 39 point something

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 роки тому

      @WolfLarsen85 We all do. (Whispers.) We all do...

    • @targettoad691
      @targettoad691 3 роки тому +1

      @@stuartmartin2615 39.6

  • @karlcooper8460
    @karlcooper8460 3 роки тому +3

    Me just being a kid at the time at first glance the Bengals looked just like the browns until I found out years later that was by design because of Paul Brown he once coached the Browns.

  • @tedkijeski339
    @tedkijeski339 3 роки тому +5

    nice shot of Gillman with NFL Films "Tidan" (a.k.a. "titan") Ed Sabol at 5:30.

    • @Wrcoach2
      @Wrcoach2 3 роки тому

      Ed may have been thanking Sid for wearing a mic in that game. If memory serves, that was the game Sid mic'd up for NFL Films.

    • @tedkijeski339
      @tedkijeski339 3 роки тому +1

      @@Wrcoach2 Yes -- I think that's correct.

  • @tevinsherrill4195
    @tevinsherrill4195 3 роки тому +4

    It's funny that the Oilers called Paul Brown senile, considering that they had Bill Peterson as HC in the 1.5 seasons prior. Well, Bill wasn't exactly senile, but he couldn't form a straight sentence to save his life.

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 3 роки тому +3

    "Apologizing for calling him senile" lol oh my goodness.

  • @otrwp79
    @otrwp79 2 роки тому +1

    7:46 - Mike Reid, DT for the Bengals. Later Country singer and songwriter. He co-wrote Stranger in My House, a top 10 single for Ronnie Milsap. He himself recorded Walk on Faith, which went to number 1 on the Country charts.

  • @lionhearted7450
    @lionhearted7450 3 роки тому +6

    1:25 what a hit! Love all your content!

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 роки тому +2

      Not a high degree of difficulty though, considering he was totally unblocked. The Bengals wound up thrashing the Vikings 27-0 in that game which wasn't a tank job by the Vikes, since there were 2 games left afterwards and they played all their starters. That should've been a big clue as to how the Dolphins-Vikings Super Bowl was going to go.

    • @lionhearted7450
      @lionhearted7450 3 роки тому +2

      @@DolFan316 regardless of the outcome of the play or game…a big hit is a big hit. But I agree with you as well.

  • @lawless688
    @lawless688 3 роки тому +1

    Like your videos. The audio on this one seemed muted and hard to understand at times. Never noticed that with other videos. Maybe I'm just getting old...

  • @redsolocup727
    @redsolocup727 3 роки тому +3

    Such a great channel. Thank you!

  • @rjsweda
    @rjsweda 3 роки тому +4

    you do nice obscure interesting stories i never heard of. cool.

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 2 роки тому +2

    Bud Adams was Bob Irsay's evil twin.
    Paul Brown was Tom Landry's evil twin.

  • @goalscorerlajon
    @goalscorerlajon 3 роки тому +2

    Paul Brown won titles in the AAFC not the AFC.

  • @brotherpanda3626
    @brotherpanda3626 3 роки тому

    Keep up the good work.

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 3 роки тому +7

    13:40 Hall of Famer Roger Wherli chasing down a seemingly wide open receiver who looked to be headed for a TD. This is why this guy is in the Hall. Incidentally, the Oilers lost that game.

  • @tommclain8893
    @tommclain8893 3 роки тому +1

    Fun to see creator of NFL Films Ed Sabol mobbing Sid Gilman following a big win. l liked the trench warfare, HOF'r Elvin Bethea grabbing #71 the pulling guard to slow down the play. Ken Burroughs could blaze, blocking not in his arsenal. Another gem.

  • @warrenrussell9600
    @warrenrussell9600 3 роки тому +4

    too many teams go out of there way to do no good too other team, if you have to cheat how good are you really.? an that goes for then an now.....

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 роки тому +3

      If I'd been the NFL commissioner I'd have docked the Oilers at least one draft pick for that. I guarantee they wouldn't have "accidentally" been late sending game film again.

  • @NillyNilly546
    @NillyNilly546 2 роки тому

    Would've been hilarious for them to patch things up just for it to go south again.

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 3 роки тому +1

    Before I continue with the video, do I need any context? Did anyone have a worse passer rating than just spiking the ball on every play?

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 3 роки тому +1

      No, and this unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian doesn’t make an appearance.

  • @chrisjamesr77
    @chrisjamesr77 2 роки тому +1

    3:28 hey, future NFL coach Sam Wyche

  • @NillyNilly546
    @NillyNilly546 2 роки тому

    Huh I never knew how they did film back then, pretty interesting.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 3 роки тому +4

    At 10:15, so close.

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 3 роки тому +5

    Houston Oilers cheating? Astros? Hmm, must be something in the water.

  • @Crunkboy415
    @Crunkboy415 2 роки тому +1

    Gilman had to cheat. The guy who ran the Bengals offense was...Bill Walsh 😁

  • @chrisjamesr77
    @chrisjamesr77 2 роки тому

    6:27 Damn, sweet interception by #42! lol

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 Рік тому

    Paul Brown was a great coach, maybe.
    Paul Brown's success was due to four factors:
    1) Speed (having fast players)
    2) Analyzing game film
    3) Coach calling the plays
    4) Generational compatibility with players
    Brown innovated 2) & 3).
    After Paul Brown won his last championship, he had barely a .500 record.
    He and his players were of a different generation and he couldn't relate to them, and they couldn't relate to him.
    The rest of the league began doing 2) & 3) and Brown did not continue to innovate.

  • @TheStevehuff
    @TheStevehuff 2 роки тому

    Why should one team send another team game film? I would think all teams are responsible for getting their own game film.

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer4799 3 роки тому +1

    In the 80's after glanville ran up the score on wyche's bengals both teams hated each other for a few seasons. Each game one would run up the score on the other if they got a big lead. That was nothing new for punk coach glanvillle, chuck noll instead of shaking his hand after steelers lost to oilers gave glanville a 'lecture' about running up the score on teams. One game in '89 season wyche rolled up the score 61-7 on glanville. The year after they went to the sb.
    Other scores...'90-oilers 48, cincy, 17. cincy 40, oilers, 20. Pardee was oiler coach now
    '88-cincy 44, oilers 21. oilers 41, cincy 6.
    This was a three year war between bengals/wyche and oilers in which the home team rolled up the score on the other winning by 20 + pts. or more. Only '89 first meeting, a 26-24 oilers win in the astrodome, was close.

    • @thebrotasticbro9465
      @thebrotasticbro9465 2 роки тому

      This comment should be a video itself

    • @stevenbauer4799
      @stevenbauer4799 2 роки тому +1

      @@thebrotasticbro9465 Thanks. Maybe it will be a soon to be video.

  • @quigonkenny
    @quigonkenny 2 роки тому

    Hmm... Violating unwritten rules to gain a competitive advantage over your opponents...?
    Tinfoil hat time: what does Gillman look like wearing a hoodie...?

  • @rockhard2654
    @rockhard2654 2 роки тому

    look competition MEANS gaining an advantage on your opponent
    if you won it means somehow you had an advantage
    an advantage means the competition is unfair
    MAKING THE COMPETITION UNFAIR IS WHAT WINNING IS ABOUT
    in other words
    CHEATING IS WINNING
    the purpose of sports competition is to teach valuable life lessons
    theres one for you
    CHEAT, CHEAT YOUR ASS OFF ALL THE TIME
    THATS WHAT BEING A WINNER IS

  • @jweezy8645
    @jweezy8645 2 роки тому +1

    11,000+ views and under 400 likes 😕. People are beyond lazy 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @CowSaysMooMoo
    @CowSaysMooMoo 2 роки тому

    5:40 Ed Sabol (NFL FILMS and Sid were good friends......

  • @Staceyatkinson4496
    @Staceyatkinson4496 3 роки тому +2

    Anderson played in 1974, he had a great career, sbxvi player, wow

  • @thechriswood
    @thechriswood 2 роки тому

    The AAFC not the AFC

  • @josephmiller9424
    @josephmiller9424 2 роки тому

    Modern football is due to Paul Brown

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog887 3 роки тому

    So when you don't have game film is your best option to spike the ball on every play?

  • @azahrmalik2259
    @azahrmalik2259 2 роки тому +1

    How old are u dude

  • @brasspick
    @brasspick 3 роки тому +1

    The Oilers should've had to forfeit the game.

  • @scottconner7930
    @scottconner7930 3 роки тому +2

    47 Years Ago