This reminds me of the problems Alan Freed ran into when receiving money to play certain records. He's the guy who made rock and roll a household name for all americans. Thats a hefty topic. ;-)
There is an important distinction to be made: rigged game shows are illegal. But call your show a "reality show", like Survivor or Big Brother, and all bets are off.
Actually, according to the way the law is written, ANY televised competition for a substantial prize must be presented fairly. So Survivor does indeed count as a game show.
Whenever you are in a shady legal situation, do that. Rent a PO box, and send yourself dated letters, with an accountant or lawyers signature on them. Emails cant compare even when they are legally admissible.
Called a poor man's copyright. As long as the letter is in a sealed envelope that has been stamped by the government it is proof of timeline as to the point of origin. Only counts in court if it is the Judge opening the envelope, I believe... after being submitted as evidence.
that was such a big brain move, that lawmakers should have given him a cash prize for giving them the evidence they needed for the win, like winning the Game Show that was defeating crooked Game Shows XD
As someone who even finds _modern_ gameshows to be a chore to watch, I shudder picturing how boring it was in the early days of gameshow television before people knew how to make it "interesting".
@@TheSuperappelflap I don't know, and am not claiming to know, but I have to doubt they're truly rigged. It's literally illegal, it would be so easy to get caught, and how could it be worth going to jail over? Surely, they don't need to rig the shows to get people to watch, do they? Why do you think they are?
@@Someone-sc2hk Shows like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy are real. Shows where there's an elimination like Chopped, Survivor, and Big Brother are staged. If the word "Reality" shows up ANY WHERE about the show it is 100% staged.
@@TheSuperappelflapwhy do you think they are rigged and which ones? Genuinely just curious, the only ones I ever really watched was family feud like 5 years ago with my family.
I taught my kids that TVs where only useful for being catapulted out of a 3rd floor window on riot cops. Useless to say we never had TV in our house. Kids are all grown now, but one of my daughters recently noted that it was about time I get 3rd floor, or higher, flat in time for the next riot. She offered to supply the TV, the 3 others happily added their names to the suppliers list.
If only the internet wasn't becoming just as sanitized and ridiculous. People like Logan and Jake Paul are millionaires built on the backs of a catalog that consist of things like them AND their Dad making out with blindfolded girls in their backyard, canceling Cable to go to the internet is moving from cancer to a growing tumor.
There was a quiz show in the UK in the 2000s called Stake Out which claimed that contestants put up £250 of their own money to potentially win £25,000. The producers were told that this would not be deemed legal and so had to stump up the money themselves. If they hadn't done that, they'd likely be in trouble with the Independent Television Commission and the Police.
In the U.S., you have to, by law, pay people for being on your show at all. At least, if they talk, you do. Could they do a show where they paid them their fee for being on the show, then require them to risk that fee to play? 🤷
@@TroubleToby3040I'm no legal expert, but I'd say no. I don't think any competent judge would let that slide. Luckily for shiesty lawyers around the world, competent judges are a rarity in the U.S, so they'd probably get away with it.
I worked a few years in the french building of CBC (The Canadian national television) and during my break I went to a studio to watch one of these game show. Basically there was two teams competing by answering questions and the money won was going to a "good cause". I remember this guy is asked a question and give the wrong answer so he doesn't get any points, then the host say there was a technical problem so he ask the same question to the same guy, obviously the guy knows the answer now so he just say it and win this round... I was a bit mad to see this, that's pretty much like cheating but the money isn't going to this guy and whoever win the money will go to a good place... I only watched like 10-15 minutes on this show and this happened so I'm assuming these situations must be happening quite a lot.
@@Alfred-Neuman I've seen them give very strong hints on celebrity charity game shows before in Australia... It's usually done in a comedic fashion, and the money is basically a fixed donation to charities anyway, but with a gameshow shaped entertainment package for people to watch. I can't imagine the authorities going after them for rigging a charity gameshow against themselves so they donate more... that would just be weird😂
US advertising especially on Cable is waaaaay worse now. 5 minutes of ads for every 10 minutes or possibly much worse now. The worst thing is it's the same freaking ads every time.
Thank gawd for our rules in the UK. If you show ads (not every channel does), you can only show them for 12 minutes in an hour (that's the hour on the clock rather than a random 60 minutes strung together). And our advertisers know that if they show naff ads, we go put the kettle on and make tea. Doesn't mean we don't get naff ads, but we get a higher proportion of good ones.
@@y_fam_goeglyd yeah I don't agree the UK does everything right but that's definitely the best call imo. Having strict rules on advertisements makes TV and the ads much better.
Got two out of three and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge. (Atahualpa rings a bell now you say it, but I'd never have thought of it.) Thankfully there's a good market in the UK for quiz shows for people who actually like quizzing. University Challenge, Mastermind, Only Connect and on the radio the very originally named 'Round Britain Quiz' all have a range of questions from "just about gettable" to "you'd need to be a human computer".
That caricature of Merv Griffin was SPOT ON!!! You could have shown that caricature without mentioning Merv Griffins name and I would have probably have guessed it was him.
Imagine trying to learn all those facts before the age of the Internet. It's something we kinda take for granted now, just how easy it is to access and learn encyclopedic amounts of information
Before the internet if you were bored there were only about 4 options. 1. Go outside and dig a hole. 2. Flick to a random page of an encyclopaedia. 3. Masturbate to the memory of the girl on the bus. 4. Use a screwdriver and glue to try fix your broken lamp. I didn't have internet until I was about 12, so I'm speaking from experience. But now? Now all I do is doom scroll, pretending I'm learning stuff but I'm not really.
You missed the darling Patty Duke. When she 13 yrs old she won big on a quiz show. And she testified in the hearings about her winning. When she was asked ‘is what you said true?’ She broke down and said no. She was coached. Patty Duke was a pretty big star child actor.
She was young enough to be immune from criminal prosecution. I'm not sure if it's even considered delinquency if a child lies in court. The assumption is that they lack adult judgement. I think her contrition and her young age are what saved her long-lasting career afterwards.
@@larryscott3982 And IMO a deplorable case of child exploitation. I hope her courageous example had something to do with the changes, like maybe filling the executives and some of the other lying contestants with shame after watching a child summon the courage to come clean. Thanks for mentioning her. I didn't know she was ensnared in this mess. I think she was a very talented child actor at a time when there was a lot of competition.
@@beenaplumber8379 Being a very young girl and winning was suspect. At the Congressional hearings her testimony cast so much shame on the networks, and enraged Congress. It was like a plug door coming off inflight on a relatively new Boeing.
+1 and thanks for raising that. I started thinking about this film partway though and you've saved me from looking it up to see if was about Van Doren and Stimpel.
You know the worst part was Charles father Mark von Doren is also a professor at Columbia University so you can imagine his disappointment to find out his own son involvement in the Quiz show scandal since not only Charles is his son but also his colleague
My doctoral advisor told me never to compromise my credibility. (Don't BS my data.) Once a scientist does that, they have nothing left to sell. If they can't be trusted, their career is over. The currency in science is information. I don't know if Charles von Doren was into scientific research or some other field, but deceit can be death in academia.
That guy exists everywhere, my friend. Are you in the U.S.? There's a guy in every bar (pub) telling stories non-stop. I stay away from that guy like the plague, but some people love him. 🤷
@goldenfiberwheat238 status/money. Usually expats are relocated for work or financial interests of some sort, and an immigrant is searching for a better life and looking to put down roots. Or that's how I've always seen it
My dad used to work on game shows back then. He said it was an open secret that they were all rigged (at least the ones filmed in New York). Every single one of them.
@@foxymetroid Not really. Legal requirements are ignored all the time. It is only when the public spotlight and outrage are focused on them that corporations are forced to abide by the law.
@@MrGrumblierThere wasn’t anything illegal in what they were doing until the public got outraged when they found out so there wasn’t any legal requirements at all. So once the public found out only then were laws made to prevent this from happening again.
Another important thing Jeopardy did to revive quiz shows was lessen the prize money. Sums like $64,000 were massive back in the 50s - adjusted for inflation, it would be around $700,000 today. Jeopardy doesn't let contestants score anywhere near that amount of money in a single game, and the lower stakes made people far more receptive to giving quiz shows another chance. It's also why it had a five day limit for contestants initially.
my favorite game show from that era is "What's my line?" its just such a fun little show. most of it is on youtube too. almost as good as a qxir video.
For me it's "Beat the Clock". The physical challenges they made for contestants looked like they were figured out minutes before the cameras started rolling, and the show was blatantly sponsored by SYLVANIA! Brutalmoose did a great video on it.
I saw What’s my Line on tv once! I liked it a lot so I tried to find it again, and accidentally put on Whose Line is it Anyway. That is how I first came across Whose Line.
They were before my time, but looking back at game shows from the 70s and 80s via the use of streaming services and UA-cam, I feel like those decades were like the golden age of game shows. One of my favorites from that era, Match Game, showed that game shows were not only game shows for their own sake, but they were also a place for celebrities to just hang out, be themselves, and just be silly and goofy without needing to be in character for any form of show and movie. If you haven't, go find ways to watch Match Game 73-79, and Match Game PM 75-81. You'll see what I mean.
I could be wrong, but I swore I was subbed to this channel before, but I just had to click on it right now. Glad this video popped up in my feed. YT's been sending me a lot of stuff I'm not interested in recently, so this was a nice change.
Growing up in Southern California, our families and friends often went to game shows to sit in the audience, my folks went on “The Price is Right”, and a favorite was “Truth or Consequences”! My 7th grade best friend’s mom was a Campbell Soup mom! It was a strange place to grow up!
Carl Barks once made a Donald Duck cartoon story about these Radio/TV quiz gameshows, the story being 'The Crazy Quiz Show' from 1949. It's a satirical take, complete with the ridiculous over-the-top advertisement and all. In the story, the nephews get super easy questions and win their prices, while the questions Donald himself ends up getting all extremely hard and pretty much impossible.
I cannot describe to you how hard my heart fell at the Francisco Pizarro question. I’m a history guy so I confidently said “the Inca” and sat down in horror as the rest of the questions came.
Early game shows may be bad, but I will never get over the episode of “what’s my line” where all four celebrities are so bougee that, despite staring colonel sanders in the face, they cannot figure out that his job is “I own KFC”
Oh is that what they meant by period. I thought they wanted 2 year numbers that it happened in between. Man my history exams were brutal, 15 years later and Im still conditioned.
@@FloorFourteen that just makes it easier. if you said Mexico it would also be correct, no? Or maybe that was the Mayas. Im not good on south american history.
There was one legacy from these 50s quiz show scandals that stuck around for the rest of the 20th century, winnings limits. To make sure that game shows couldn't be rigged, the big three networks had a cap for how much money you could win. If a contestant went over it, they weren't allowed back on the show. This wasn't lifted until Who Wants to be a Millionaire gave us a big money game show. At that point, the scandals were far enough in the past that the winnings limits were dropped within a few years.
Got here early. Honestly, compared to what you would see today, earlier game shows were such an appeal because of how reckless and often chaotic they got.
I'm so glad this whole fiasco was covered here, it's such a fascinating story. There's a 1994 movie about this exact thing called "Quiz Show" that's relatively accurate as far as I know
me attempting the gameshow question at 1:03 "Pizarro was an early Spanish explorer who discovered and conquered an advanced civilization." Hey, I know this one! "Name the civilization he discovered" The Incan empire, okay "the country this civilization was in" Peru (post-thinking note: Colombia is also a valid answer) "and the leader of the civilization at the time of the conquest" okay you gotta be kidding
“You successfully hit metal 17 times so you are now proud owner of this: photograph of motorcar” “I am happy” “But property is theft so you are now under arrest” “Fair enough”
I gave up on telling people that sports are rigged. They just don't want to believe it, but I guarantee you it's rigged especially football. You don't have that much money involved without some shady stuff going on
My gramdmother took (Jeritol) Geritol, I think it was liquid vitamins for old people because of the etymology of the name. I never tasted it but now I'm really curious. ...Oh wow, it still exists, it's B vitamins and iron.
4:07 reminded me of when your starting a co-op game in battleblock theater and Hatty has all your players on strings, you should totally work for behemoth if they make a sequel to that game your art style would fit right in
Definitely remember. It’s a joke dub of Takeshi’s Castle, a Japanese game show. There’s even an episode of Pokémon (in Diamond & Pearl) based on it. I wonder if MXC helped convince the writers Western audiences would get the reference.
@@pokepress WIPEOUT(the ABC Show not the Playstation game)I think is the American made version or at least I believe they had to pay licensing to the company who made Takeshi's Castle.
0:54- everyone says Qxir to themselves together 3:04- toothpaste used to come in a old boot. A coupke of Van Doren's brothers & there friend started Vans sneakers. Merv Griffin was a genius.
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Why is there a cut in the audio?
We missed you welcome back
Meanwhile the NFL is officially sponsored by gambling websites
This reminds me of the problems Alan Freed ran into when receiving money to play certain records. He's the guy who made rock and roll a household name for all americans. Thats a hefty topic. ;-)
“KIIIIILLL!” has always been my favourite line 😂
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Ding! Yeah!
I like "thought about killing myself" more
@@schmeegledorfThe edge is sharp.
Look up the time he said "kill MYself!"
There is an important distinction to be made: rigged game shows are illegal. But call your show a "reality show", like Survivor or Big Brother, and all bets are off.
The law specifically forbids providing secret assistance in an intellectual contest. Reality shows are anything BUT intellectual.
Well yeah reality shows aren’t game shows. They are drama shows
One is won with ‘intelligence or luck’ the other is won by public voting and so it’s not the same
I was just thinking that if the game show is rigged, then they're basically just paid actors. 😂
Actually, according to the way the law is written, ANY televised competition for a substantial prize must be presented fairly. So Survivor does indeed count as a game show.
Mailing yourself a certified letter like that, what a stroke of genius.
Whenever you are in a shady legal situation, do that. Rent a PO box, and send yourself dated letters, with an accountant or lawyers signature on them.
Emails cant compare even when they are legally admissible.
Called a poor man's copyright. As long as the letter is in a sealed envelope that has been stamped by the government it is proof of timeline as to the point of origin. Only counts in court if it is the Judge opening the envelope, I believe... after being submitted as evidence.
@@TheSuperappelflap There's equivalent digital options for that too these days. But certified letters are still a good option and sound advice.
that was such a big brain move, that lawmakers should have given him a cash prize for giving them the evidence they needed for the win, like winning the Game Show that was defeating crooked Game Shows XD
This is why you only offer to give the answers to the dumb contestants. Who knows what the smart ones will do with them.
"Name a famous Irishman." Mega laughing here.
jonny walker
Cillian Murphy
Liam Neeson.
Conner McGregor
Colin Farrell?
As someone who even finds _modern_ gameshows to be a chore to watch, I shudder picturing how boring it was in the early days of gameshow television before people knew how to make it "interesting".
I just find it hilarious people think they arent rigged today
@@TheSuperappelflap I don't know, and am not claiming to know, but I have to doubt they're truly rigged. It's literally illegal, it would be so easy to get caught, and how could it be worth going to jail over? Surely, they don't need to rig the shows to get people to watch, do they? Why do you think they are?
@@TheSuperappelflap I mean, do you have proof?
@@Someone-sc2hk Shows like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy are real. Shows where there's an elimination like Chopped, Survivor, and Big Brother are staged. If the word "Reality" shows up ANY WHERE about the show it is 100% staged.
@@TheSuperappelflapwhy do you think they are rigged and which ones? Genuinely just curious, the only ones I ever really watched was family feud like 5 years ago with my family.
Steve Harvey raising fists after the dude said kill for sex actually has me in tears
My first thought was "beg". I bet that was the answer that had the most points.
@@TheSuperappelflapbeg was number 3 and pay was number 1. Kill was 2nd. It was on screen at 2:06
I know, it's the best RPG menu ever
I'm surprised "lie" wasn't higher on the list... but I guess I shouldn't be, since those guys are liars.
"KILL!" 😂
Did a school project on cheating in game shows. Coincidentally I cheated on my project as well.
Nah, you just represented a big form of Irony in your writing to make the piece more impactful
Yes but you learned how to cheat, and that is what school is all about.
@@LTPottenger I remember I only learned to cheat in college.
I dropped out eventually so dont worry.
But man was it useful to pass classes.
method acting
That is just commitment to the source material.
The Twenty One game show scandal was actually made into a movie called Quiz Show(1994) staring Ralph Fiennes and John Turturro.
Great movie
yup. when the quiz/show biz didn't work out, he went on to stick fighting a teenage boy and eventually lost at it too
I canceled US TV/Cable 15 years ago. Nothing of value was lost.
Unfortunately most companies got wise and now to get internet you gotta get cable
@@ULTRAKILLPenelope Thankfully my carrier doesn't require that. I believe when I had Comcast that was one of their cons.
oh yeah? you telling me Tiny House Flippers L.A Championship Edition 2069 is worthless?
I taught my kids that TVs where only useful for being catapulted out of a 3rd floor window on riot cops. Useless to say we never had TV in our house. Kids are all grown now, but one of my daughters recently noted that it was about time I get 3rd floor, or higher, flat in time for the next riot. She offered to supply the TV, the 3 others happily added their names to the suppliers list.
If only the internet wasn't becoming just as sanitized and ridiculous.
People like Logan and Jake Paul are millionaires built on the backs of a catalog that consist of things like them AND their Dad making out with blindfolded girls in their backyard, canceling Cable to go to the internet is moving from cancer to a growing tumor.
Toothpaste in a spray bottle. Genius idea
Everything is better in a spray bottle, let me show you my... nope, I can't think of anything funnier than spray toothpaste.
Better than putting fluoride in the water supply heyooo
@@SlyPearTreeNot as useful as my spray on condom.
@@SlyPearTreeCHEEZ WHIZ!
@@TheSuperappelflapmisinfo. You should enjoy your dose that doesnt consider size or age. Your bones will be damaged but theyll be shiny!
There was a quiz show in the UK in the 2000s called Stake Out which claimed that contestants put up £250 of their own money to potentially win £25,000. The producers were told that this would not be deemed legal and so had to stump up the money themselves. If they hadn't done that, they'd likely be in trouble with the Independent Television Commission and the Police.
In the U.S., you have to, by law, pay people for being on your show at all. At least, if they talk, you do. Could they do a show where they paid them their fee for being on the show, then require them to risk that fee to play? 🤷
@@TroubleToby3040I'm no legal expert, but I'd say no. I don't think any competent judge would let that slide.
Luckily for shiesty lawyers around the world, competent judges are a rarity in the U.S, so they'd probably get away with it.
I worked a few years in the french building of CBC (The Canadian national television) and during my break I went to a studio to watch one of these game show. Basically there was two teams competing by answering questions and the money won was going to a "good cause". I remember this guy is asked a question and give the wrong answer so he doesn't get any points, then the host say there was a technical problem so he ask the same question to the same guy, obviously the guy knows the answer now so he just say it and win this round... I was a bit mad to see this, that's pretty much like cheating but the money isn't going to this guy and whoever win the money will go to a good place... I only watched like 10-15 minutes on this show and this happened so I'm assuming these situations must be happening quite a lot.
@@Alfred-Neuman
I've seen them give very strong hints on celebrity charity game shows before in Australia... It's usually done in a comedic fashion, and the money is basically a fixed donation to charities anyway, but with a gameshow shaped entertainment package for people to watch.
I can't imagine the authorities going after them for rigging a charity gameshow against themselves so they donate more... that would just be weird😂
US advertising especially on Cable is waaaaay worse now. 5 minutes of ads for every 10 minutes or possibly much worse now. The worst thing is it's the same freaking ads every time.
And all adverts are for quack medications and fast food
@@LTPottenger that's how they get you! fatten em up then put em on diet pills
Thank gawd for our rules in the UK. If you show ads (not every channel does), you can only show them for 12 minutes in an hour (that's the hour on the clock rather than a random 60 minutes strung together). And our advertisers know that if they show naff ads, we go put the kettle on and make tea. Doesn't mean we don't get naff ads, but we get a higher proportion of good ones.
People still watch cable tv? Weird.
@@y_fam_goeglyd yeah I don't agree the UK does everything right but that's definitely the best call imo. Having strict rules on advertisements makes TV and the ads much better.
Lets not forget the greatest trivia question of all time. "Whered you get your shades?"
Need to watch that again. I was in TEARS 😂😂😂
Steve Harvey yelling "KILL" will forever be my favourite Family Feud clip
Richard Dawson, every time he kissed every woman contestant on the lips, and you know he had to reek of scotch and ashtray. 🤢
The answer to the question at 1:03 is:
Civilization he discovered: Inca Empire
Country: Peru
Leader at the time of Conquest: Atahualpa
Interesting.
Did you know, or did you look it up?
Yeah I knew it too, but the number of things I don't know is rather large.
I was thinking Mayans. Had to google it.
I only _almost_ knew because of Age of Empires III dlc lol
Got two out of three and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge. (Atahualpa rings a bell now you say it, but I'd never have thought of it.)
Thankfully there's a good market in the UK for quiz shows for people who actually like quizzing. University Challenge, Mastermind, Only Connect and on the radio the very originally named 'Round Britain Quiz' all have a range of questions from "just about gettable" to "you'd need to be a human computer".
That caricature of Merv Griffin was SPOT ON!!! You could have shown that caricature without mentioning Merv Griffins name and I would have probably have guessed it was him.
Nerd.
@@jffry890 so childish. If you're an adult then it's even a worse look for you
Imagine trying to learn all those facts before the age of the Internet. It's something we kinda take for granted now, just how easy it is to access and learn encyclopedic amounts of information
Before the internet if you were bored there were only about 4 options.
1. Go outside and dig a hole.
2. Flick to a random page of an encyclopaedia.
3. Masturbate to the memory of the girl on the bus.
4. Use a screwdriver and glue to try fix your broken lamp.
I didn't have internet until I was about 12, so I'm speaking from experience.
But now? Now all I do is doom scroll, pretending I'm learning stuff but I'm not really.
No one needs to know this, but it was pronounced with a soft G like it was Jeritol. Fun episode!!
Thanks, it was killing me. I'm old enough to have seen the TV commercials.
Same as in "geriatric."
I needed to know this!
And gif.
@@defskiNuh uh.
You missed the darling Patty Duke. When she 13 yrs old she won big on a quiz show. And she testified in the hearings about her winning.
When she was asked ‘is what you said true?’ She broke down and said no. She was coached.
Patty Duke was a pretty big star child actor.
NY Post front page of Nov 4, 1959: THEY EVEN FIXED THE KID.
She was young enough to be immune from criminal prosecution. I'm not sure if it's even considered delinquency if a child lies in court. The assumption is that they lack adult judgement. I think her contrition and her young age are what saved her long-lasting career afterwards.
@@beenaplumber8379
To be sure, she was in no legal jeopardy of any kind. It was a stunning testimony of how the game shows were scripted.
@@larryscott3982 And IMO a deplorable case of child exploitation. I hope her courageous example had something to do with the changes, like maybe filling the executives and some of the other lying contestants with shame after watching a child summon the courage to come clean. Thanks for mentioning her. I didn't know she was ensnared in this mess. I think she was a very talented child actor at a time when there was a lot of competition.
@@beenaplumber8379
Being a very young girl and winning was suspect. At the Congressional hearings her testimony cast so much shame on the networks, and enraged Congress.
It was like a plug door coming off inflight on a relatively new Boeing.
Surprised you didn't mention the movie Quiz Show (1994). It documents a lot of what went on between Van Doren and Stimpel.
Love that movie! Ralph Fiennes did an excellent job portraying Charles Van Doren.
Good movie! Watched several times, me. Weird wording, that. Can't seem to stop... Me.
Brilliant movie
@@A_DuckyJohn Tuttoro was also good as Herb Stemple.
Robert Redford did really well as a director.
+1 and thanks for raising that. I started thinking about this film partway though and you've saved me from looking it up to see if was about Van Doren and Stimpel.
You know the worst part was Charles father Mark von Doren is also a professor at Columbia University so you can imagine his disappointment to find out his own son involvement in the Quiz show scandal since not only Charles is his son but also his colleague
📖 A History of Knowledge by Charles Van Doren 1991. That book really opened my mind as a teenager. He’s done okay.
Never knew that.
My doctoral advisor told me never to compromise my credibility. (Don't BS my data.) Once a scientist does that, they have nothing left to sell. If they can't be trusted, their career is over. The currency in science is information. I don't know if Charles von Doren was into scientific research or some other field, but deceit can be death in academia.
No one really trusts academics anyway. There's so much dishonesty.
@ 9:21 is the definitely the look of "This is not going to go well" lol
As an Irish expat this channel makes me miss the old lad that just told stories back in the local so much.
That guy exists everywhere, my friend. Are you in the U.S.? There's a guy in every bar (pub) telling stories non-stop. I stay away from that guy like the plague, but some people love him. 🤷
What’s the difference between an expat and an immigrant?
@goldenfiberwheat238 status/money. Usually expats are relocated for work or financial interests of some sort, and an immigrant is searching for a better life and looking to put down roots. Or that's how I've always seen it
@@goldenfiberwheat238one of them is an immigrant and the other is an expat
@@dcf8978 that explains nothing
My dad used to work on game shows back then. He said it was an open secret that they were all rigged (at least the ones filmed in New York). Every single one of them.
A day is always good when there's a Qxir upload.
So true
11:07 'Shallow, fake, and consumed by greed' ..pretty much sums up most, if not all game shows since the beginning of game shows.
My Fridays are always fun when I see your videos. They can be funny or sad. But always intertaining.
The movie Quiz Show (1994) is a great dramatisation of the 21 scandal.
Greedy corporations often fail to see the value of ethical behaviour, until they are legally required to.
Required? You mean forced.
@@MrGrumblierDistinction without a difference.
@@foxymetroid Not really. Legal requirements are ignored all the time. It is only when the public spotlight and outrage are focused on them that corporations are forced to abide by the law.
@@MrGrumblierThere wasn’t anything illegal in what they were doing until the public got outraged when they found out so there wasn’t any legal requirements at all. So once the public found out only then were laws made to prevent this from happening again.
@@Mario87456 I wasn't referring to the game show scandal in particular. I was talking about corporations in general.
It's weird that Jeopardy was thought of as a way to prevent cheating, but inverting the format of the questions doesn't prevent cheating at all...
It's also retarded when they just leave the question mark off the question and make them say "what is" in front of the answers.
Jeopardy couldn’t prevent most other kinds of cheating but can only prevent the worst kind of cheating known to society, that’s all.
Another important thing Jeopardy did to revive quiz shows was lessen the prize money. Sums like $64,000 were massive back in the 50s - adjusted for inflation, it would be around $700,000 today. Jeopardy doesn't let contestants score anywhere near that amount of money in a single game, and the lower stakes made people far more receptive to giving quiz shows another chance. It's also why it had a five day limit for contestants initially.
Shallow, fake, and consumed by greed. Still applies.
I love your voice and your style of videos ❤️ perfect combo for success on youtube
I never thought I would enjoy an Irishman talk about 50s game shows, but I do enjoy it.
Seems like there’s an audio issue between 8:12 - 8:23.
Love your work!
Cheers!
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Not just me then, okay.
Saved me posting it.
I think the lipstick ad only played in the right channel, I had only my left earbud in and the sound came back when I played on speakers
No one can deny that- *demon noises*
It's always a good day with a tale from the bottle. Love your work mate. Cheers ❤
You’ve got great art stuff! The simple unique style really exemplifies your voice and all; brilliant. I enjoyed ‘What’s My Line’ when I was a kid.
8:10 sounds like you entered into analog horror
toothpaste in a spray bottle makes me think of Lynx doing a bit of blue sky thinking and branch out
In 1953 $50,000 a year is $574,000 a year today.
So Herb could still have walked away like a king.
🙄
my favorite game show from that era is "What's my line?" its just such a fun little show. most of it is on youtube too. almost as good as a qxir video.
For me it's "Beat the Clock". The physical challenges they made for contestants looked like they were figured out minutes before the cameras started rolling, and the show was blatantly sponsored by SYLVANIA! Brutalmoose did a great video on it.
There was a show sponsored by Sylvania and some skillet maker, but it was just a flash in the pan.
If Im not mistaken, whats my line was hosted by the great Groucho Marx, a man with a great quick wit.
@@mjfan653 It was hosted by John Charles Daly, but Groucho did appear on the show as a celebrity contestant.
I saw What’s my Line on tv once! I liked it a lot so I tried to find it again, and accidentally put on Whose Line is it Anyway. That is how I first came across Whose Line.
Thanks!
Another excellent episide Qxir. A great way to start a Saturday morning downunder. Thankyou.
8:34 "Marie Winn" sounds like the name of an Ace Attorney character.
They were before my time, but looking back at game shows from the 70s and 80s via the use of streaming services and UA-cam, I feel like those decades were like the golden age of game shows. One of my favorites from that era, Match Game, showed that game shows were not only game shows for their own sake, but they were also a place for celebrities to just hang out, be themselves, and just be silly and goofy without needing to be in character for any form of show and movie. If you haven't, go find ways to watch Match Game 73-79, and Match Game PM 75-81. You'll see what I mean.
They aren’t being themselves. They’re acting the way their agents and producers told them to act
Slide it Earl!!!!!!
8:10 The audio cuts out or something, and why am i the only one who seems to have noticed this?
Geritol pronounced "jeritol". I grew up in the 1960s, and they advertised everywhere !
"Thanks, (J)eritol!" It was well into the 80s it was advertised. And now, as a geriatric, I have to use it!😜
i'm here for this comment. UG!
“My wife, I think I’ll keep her.”
Great job on this video. It had me cracking up while learning about game show history! Haha
The audios messed up in the clip before 8:37
Lawsuit pending?
Ha ha I loved it when you said that advertising isn't as prevalent nowadays, just when they cut to the adverts every minute's 🤣
Who would've guessed...
The producers behind the idiot box were ACTUAL idiots this whole time.
Quiz Show is a great dramatization of Van Doren and Stempl. That's a funny clip of Stempl at the end.
I'm always amazed by your drawing ability. Your animations are incredible. I wish I could draw like you.
I could be wrong, but I swore I was subbed to this channel before, but I just had to click on it right now. Glad this video popped up in my feed. YT's been sending me a lot of stuff I'm not interested in recently, so this was a nice change.
Fats Waller's "This Joint Is Jumpin'" is great background music for this episode. 😸
and a great song in general! 😄
Growing up in Southern California, our families and friends often went to game shows to sit in the audience, my folks went on “The Price is Right”, and a favorite was “Truth or Consequences”! My 7th grade best friend’s mom was a Campbell Soup mom! It was a strange place to grow up!
0:40 You have a clip of Noel Edmonds. I believe a contestant was killed in a stunt in one of his game shows.
He was, it was a stunt gone wrong on the Late, Late Breakfast show.
@@comettamerhow did it happen??? That’s crazy
@@goomby3941 The guy was suspended from a crane in I believe a box. Either the box dropped or the guy fell out of it. IT was a huge deal at the time.
Carl Barks once made a Donald Duck cartoon story about these Radio/TV quiz gameshows, the story being 'The Crazy Quiz Show' from 1949. It's a satirical take, complete with the ridiculous over-the-top advertisement and all. In the story, the nephews get super easy questions and win their prices, while the questions Donald himself ends up getting all extremely hard and pretty much impossible.
I cannot describe to you how hard my heart fell at the Francisco Pizarro question. I’m a history guy so I confidently said “the Inca” and sat down in horror as the rest of the questions came.
Horror? The second answer is Peru and the third is Tupac I think
@@goldenfiberwheat238but Tupac was shot in a gang shootout
@@kotzpenner different Tupac
@@goldenfiberwheat238 yeah i was jokin
@@kotzpenner oh
Cough! Cough!
All the super simple drawings that tells so much …. I just love them.
"Just some egghead." Tell that to Ken Jennings! 😂
"Egghead likes his booky-wook!!"
The millionaire
I saw a Japanese game show where in a snowy field men sat in an ice bath drinking beers. The winner was the last one to go to the toilet😂😂😂
Judges can compel "specific performance" -- that is, to carry out a specific part of a contract.
According to legend his dad wasn't mad, he was in fact just disappointed...
Early game shows may be bad, but I will never get over the episode of “what’s my line” where all four celebrities are so bougee that, despite staring colonel sanders in the face, they cannot figure out that his job is “I own KFC”
Really? What the absolute heck?
Maybe his face wasn’t so known back then?
7:31 Courts certainly can issue judgments requiring “actual performance” depending on the facts of the case.
"nerds aren't fabulous"
Wait until Doctor Who debuts, Mac.
these commercials in the middle of the show remind me of some youtubers today
I can only recommend the 1994 movie Quiz Show, which is about the 21 scandal.
Show business has always been crooked. People used to know that. Looks like they might be rediscovering it.
My guess for the question at 1:20 would be - "The Incan Civilization, Peru and Atahualpa".
I know it's Incans and Peru, but I was going to say Tupac Amaru.
@@nicholasweaver2374 Yea it could be Tupac, Atahualpa was the only leader I could remember.
Oh is that what they meant by period. I thought they wanted 2 year numbers that it happened in between.
Man my history exams were brutal, 15 years later and Im still conditioned.
"The country the civilization was in" part of the questions sucks. It spanned across ~6 modern day countries.
@@FloorFourteen that just makes it easier. if you said Mexico it would also be correct, no? Or maybe that was the Mayas. Im not good on south american history.
I enjoyed this video very much! But I've enjoyed pretty much every video you have posted. Thank you, and God save Ireland
1:55 oh shit I’ve never seen the context behind Steve Harvey yelling *“KILL!”*
There was one legacy from these 50s quiz show scandals that stuck around for the rest of the 20th century, winnings limits. To make sure that game shows couldn't be rigged, the big three networks had a cap for how much money you could win. If a contestant went over it, they weren't allowed back on the show. This wasn't lifted until Who Wants to be a Millionaire gave us a big money game show. At that point, the scandals were far enough in the past that the winnings limits were dropped within a few years.
Got here early. Honestly, compared to what you would see today, earlier game shows were such an appeal because of how reckless and often chaotic they got.
duuuuuude that deal or no deal clip killed me, what a dafty
Audio glitch at 8:10 :(
it's not a glitch. he intentionally cut off his voice to let the host finish his sentence. hes making a joke about the incessant advertising
That's just creative editing. "No-one could deny that, for the price of ordinary lipstick..."
For me the advertising also sounds glithced
@@litterpicker1431Not sure how you made out that audio, for me it just sounds like random sounds, not like a human voice.
If it was playing a recording of the shows audio it might of been flagged as copyrighted content, hence why it's just cut out
So how is TV advertising any different now with the incredible amount of advertising in each show?
I'm so glad this whole fiasco was covered here, it's such a fascinating story. There's a 1994 movie about this exact thing called "Quiz Show" that's relatively accurate as far as I know
Brilliant movie that one is
Congratulations on 1m subscribers!!!!
7:12 NBC, NBC never changes.
me attempting the gameshow question at 1:03
"Pizarro was an early Spanish explorer who discovered and conquered an advanced civilization."
Hey, I know this one!
"Name the civilization he discovered"
The Incan empire, okay
"the country this civilization was in"
Peru (post-thinking note: Colombia is also a valid answer)
"and the leader of the civilization at the time of the conquest"
okay you gotta be kidding
“You successfully hit metal 17 times so you are now proud owner of this: photograph of motorcar”
“I am happy”
“But property is theft so you are now under arrest”
“Fair enough”
And there are still people who laugh at the possibility that major sports can/have been rigged. Never underestimate greed
I gave up on telling people that sports are rigged. They just don't want to believe it, but I guarantee you it's rigged especially football. You don't have that much money involved without some shady stuff going on
4:27 69k in 1956 is like 750k in 2024. Pretty spicy!
This was interesting. Thank you for producing and sharing. : )
My gramdmother took (Jeritol) Geritol, I think it was liquid vitamins for old people because of the etymology of the name. I never tasted it but now I'm really curious.
...Oh wow, it still exists, it's B vitamins and iron.
It was for "iron poor" blood. No such thing.
4:07 reminded me of when your starting a co-op game in battleblock theater and Hatty has all your players on strings, you should totally work for behemoth if they make a sequel to that game your art style would fit right in
No way they made a show called “9+10”
"This footage is too exiting to be shown at Regular Speed."
Classic subtitle Gag.
Anyone remember MXC? I know it's way more recent than the 50's but still, shit was crazy
Sure do, used to watch it when Spike TV was a thing and later on Twitch for a time, but it's been awhile.
Definitely remember. It’s a joke dub of Takeshi’s Castle, a Japanese game show. There’s even an episode of Pokémon (in Diamond & Pearl) based on it. I wonder if MXC helped convince the writers Western audiences would get the reference.
@@pokepress WIPEOUT(the ABC Show not the Playstation game)I think is the American made version or at least I believe they had to pay licensing to the company who made Takeshi's Castle.
8:54 goddamn that car dependent infrastructure is hitting
0:54- everyone says Qxir to themselves together
3:04- toothpaste used to come in a old boot.
A coupke of Van Doren's brothers & there friend started Vans sneakers.
Merv Griffin was a genius.
1:34 I remember doing that for junior Cert history :P
8:08 corrupted audio
Where?
@MASRIDER777 at the timestamp they literally gave
@@blah69epic I don’t hear it
And now the UA-cam commercials do exactly the same innterrupts as the game show hosts did. Nothing changed.
Game show ads used to be constant …..
UA-cam : hold my beer son
Stellar job, as always!
“Mikaeli, you have hit metal 16 times, so you win picture of motorcar. But property is robbery, so you are being arrested.”
*17 times
I wish we held news programs to the same high standards we have for Wheel of Fortune.