It's a shame you didn't go deeper into Australia's Naughtiest. The story goes that the owner of the network phoned the station CEO during the first half to demand he "get that s**t off the air". When they cut to a commercial break, there were no commercials, just an announcement that there was a "technical issue" and into a replacement programme.
Yeah, we read about that during the livestream! I think he may have not included it due to time constraints, trying to keep the video at a certain length? But for sure, wild stuff!
Wilder still is the probability that we STILL haven’t seen Australia’s Naughtiest Home Videos in its entirety. The version that aired in 2008 had portions that were pulled from the original episode that still haven’t seen the light of day, for very good reason.
The world's first apology video and he did it right. He focused on the issues, what went wrong or needed to be fixed. He didn't spend 30 crying about how this affected him and he can't eat or sleep, making all about him
honestly, hearing about some of these downright sociopathic shows getting cancelled because everyone hated them so much gives me some hope for humanity.
Who’s Your Daddy premise is so cruel and it encouraged lies and emotional manipulation that is just cruel no matter the circumstances. The fact that the people in question are adoptees who have legitimate stakes in this makes it unbelievably worse. It would have been one thing if it was people trying to correctly guess who their father was wearing a disguise among a bunch of other guys wearing costumes and voice changers.
So were the “kids” forced to do it pretty much or completely lied to? I feel as long as they were over like 12 and they willingly wanted to be a part of it and said yes multiple times then eh seems fine to me, again as long as everyone knows its like a game and for the show. If they were somehow conned into it or thrown in by their parents or whatever with almost no context then yeah thats fucked.
@@Monochrome2004 Yeah you get a whole bunch of prosthetics and even put a few in drag Mrs Doubtfire style or like that dating show with the masks. That would be so stupid but a lot more tasteful. Nobody said the bar was high lmal
Oh god same. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I had to listen to that one like three times to make sure I was hearing right. And he kept saying it over and over again... He's gotta know...
Mad respect to adult swim for doing that bumper explaining why pilots weren't picked up. Honesty is cool. Also the "what's the picture" or whatever Jackie Gleason show I think would work well for a game on Whose Line, but not an entire tv show.
Actually, they did a similar game featuring sticking heads in paintings in several episodes of the original UK WL series. Called "Picture", they just improvised a scene with them sticking their heads in the painting, rather than guessing what the image was. It only was done a couple times, it did seem like a premise that would wear out its welcome.
I've watched "Heil Honey, I'm Home" a couple of times and it's honestly not a bad show. Some of the jokes were pretty funny and the characters were fairly likable. It's not terrible, while not being exceptionally good. The show's problem is obvious: it's fucking Hitler. If this aired at like two in the morning on something like Adult Swim it would be great, because then it would ironic, but trying to make it a typical family sitcom is what makes it bad.
The problem was the choice of audience. Mainstream doesn't get irony, they consume entertainment without thinking. So of course, seeing the Funny Moustached Man™ in a scenario that isn't him being insulted in some way broke them. The irony here is that this "demonization" of errors throughout our history has made it so that many people see Hitler as some sort of eldritch entity rather than a very mentally ill man in a Germany filled with conspiracy theories and a broken economy. These same people hating on Heil Honey are the same people who'd shit on a movie like Downfall for showing Hitler as a human who chose horribly wrong rather than a monster under the bed.
>"...the characters were fairly likable" Lol. Yeah, can't imagine why a TV station would axe a show that makes Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun "fairly likable"
Hey! Some of the commercial channels here in Australia tried those late night phone in contests to make up their "local content" quota. It all came to an end when an internet group got together and started phoning in and answering every question, regardless of what it was with "India". 2+2? "India". It got them noticed. It got them cancelled. And yes, it was all a money making scam as well.
"What's the square root of Pi?" "India" "If 3x+2x=15, what is x?" "India" "Who is currently the queen of Denmark?" "India" "In what year did the October Revolution take place?" "India" I'm having too much fun writing these XD
And you can't forget the apparent phone call Kerry Packer made to end Australia's Naughtiest home videos which was rumoured to be a series: Get that @#$! off the air!
Ew, "Who's Your Daddy" is such a gross concept because there's incentives for the fake dads to lie and emotionally manipulate the guesser. Sure, it's nice that the guessers still get to meet their real fathers, but it'd still be a psychologically painful experience having all these men desperately trying to pretend to be your father when it's already a pretty heavy situation to be in.
Yeah, I felt the same way. Though technically I wasn't put up for adoption as an infant, I still had a biological father out there I didn't know about until I was an adult. It's a very emotional time and can be awkward as well. To have that be used in a game show is horrible. I couldn't imagine myself trying to do that. Also how terrible a person do you have to be to trick a person into believing that you are their father, only to get money. And then there is the mental trauma of finding that out. That you are already starting to make a connection to, only to find out that, "No, you guessed wrong. This person is your father."
If I had a nickel for every time a History Channel reality show got into hot water because of a participant's nazi tattoos, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much, but it's weird it happened twice.
dang it's so surprising that such a specific problem would be had by a channel that specifically got big from a show all about touting nazi conspiracy theories
As someone who is very close to the hypnotism scene in Australia I can tell you one of the reasons Peter Powers' show was pulled was due to people calling the network and complaining that they/ their partners/ their children were "hypnotised" over the air. Pretty stupid but it happens everytime whether it's on tv or radio. Plus Peter powers is a pretty cancerous human and brings a bad name to hypnotism using techniques that involve hitting and strong arming people in order to induce them. There's an English hypnotist that has similar vibes and is equally weird suggesting women make out with him on stage while under. FYI: Stage Hypnotism is not magic and people still have their free thought and if a suggestion does not line up with the morals of a person they still have the autonomy to refuse.
I knew he was probably as toxic as he looked, but his series over in Europe were fun, it’s a shame that the fun ended being toxic. But yeah, I mean of course if we want evil but ethical mentalists, it’s Derren Brown all the way.
@@Apollostowel nope, since Mesmer made that crap up it has been garbage. Can't "Cherry pick" because nobody has seriously studied hypnotism since disco was popular. (The effect disappears in double blind lab conditions, cuz it's a show not magic mind control. Surprise!! Chiropractic, and acupuncture are also completely stupid nonsense 😉
There's one show I can think of that I think was cancelled after its first episode. It was called Bobb'e Says and it appeared on Cartoon Network in 2009 when they were doing their poorly received live action phase. It was a show that hosts a kid named Bobb'e and in it he would comment on viral videos. I watched it when it first premiered. And that was the only time it was played on the channel and it was never mentioned again. Most of the CN Real shows had extremely low ratings and were all cancelled after their first season. The only ones that survived more than one season were Destroy Build Destroy and Hole in the Wall with those finally being cancelled around 2013.
A note about Who's Whose: I'm fairly certain the photo flipbook style for the show was only used for the initial pitch episode (now known as a pilot) shown to networks. Once it was sold to CBS, it stitched to the standard kinescope format
For the longest time, I thought "Heil Honey, I'm Home" was made up, like the internet created it and it wasn't like a real, syndicated show. I was mindblown when I found out that people actually put this on air on television.
It instantly made me think of "Whose Line is it Anyway?" when they named a fake sitcom skit that got censored before they could perform it called "Cosby and Hitler."
I wonder if Heil Honey, I’m Home was inspired by a Monty Python skit called The Atilla the Hun Show. It was a satire of U.S. sitcoms, which HHIH was intended to be.
I'm kinda surprised "Sammy" wasnt mentioned in this iceberg. Sammy was a cartoon made by David Spade, and it was scheduled to air on NBC in 2000 as part of like a cartoon block NBC was trying to do. The show flopped, and it was cancelled after two of its episodes aired with little to no promotion for one week in August 2000. Some NBC affiliates apparently aired different episodes going out of order, and I believe some didn't even air it at all. For the longest time, the show was completely lost, with no footage of it surviving, until a crew member had the entire series on VHS which were then ripped and all uploaded to youtube last new years eve.
If you want an awful series to deconstruct, there was one in the uk called "home for the holidays" It lasted for 1 season and featured a couple getting married and putting them in a house with both their families for christmas. They had a wedding fund but let the families take money out for themselves. It was horiffic.
@@wolfetteplays8894 oh it gets better, they didnt have a choice, the presenters just kept doing things like, "you wanted a new car, we will give you this new car worth £25K but it'll take £5K out the wedding fund." Who would say no to that.
@@JuicyJenitals "God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose" Great. So in other words, your premise is structured to be uncontestable and unfalsifiable. In other words, it's BS.
LOVE THIS! Expecting some really weird shit at the end haha! And also, hol' up, OVER 300K VIEWS ON THE LAST VIDEO?! We're finally taking off babyyyy, so damn happy for you man!
Man I LOVED the pilot for Korgoth the Barbarian! It's such a shame the show NEVER took off. Seeing that it was "Too expensive" makes so much sense. The show looked like they used traditional animation over more modern forms and I can appreciate it got made. If you guys love Fantasy, especially _DARK_ fantasy (IE, adult stuff) you'd get a kick out of it, it's here on UA-cam, I'm sure. I was really rooting for that show to take off. I think if they switched it up and used digital production for it, it'd do _really_ well with a lot of us 80s/90s fantasy nerds that played/still play D&D, since most of us are all grown now. Edit; THAT PETER POWERS DUDE CAME TO MY SCHOOL WHEN I WAS IN HIGHSCHOOL!! He convinced the most scrawny of the dudes that went up to be under his hypnosis that he was a 'body builder' and he 'had to show off as much of his body as possible.' The kid ALMOST got naked on stage. HE WAS A SOPHOMORE. And, he convinced one of my friends that he was the boyfriend of "the hottest girl in school." He was a Junior at the time. He believed it for a few days afterwards, too. She had to finally slap him to wake him up from it. It was pretty bad.
0:14 The Debbie king show 1:16 Barstool Van Talk. 2:04 Viva Laughlin 3:01 The Hasselhoffs 3:41 Public morals 4:21 The Herman Cain Show 4:58 Back with the Ex 5:49 Dot Comedy 6:46 Lawless 7:49 The Bussey Bunch 8:29 Ahora, La Mundial 9:07 Secret talents of the Stars 10:08 Who's Whose 11:28 Quarterlife 12:06 The Rich List 13:00 Breaking Ba- I mean Boston 13:46 The Dennis James Carnival 14:36 Videos After Dark 15:43 You're in the Picture 16:57 Emily's Reasons Why Not 17:54 The Xtacles 18:22 Korgoth Of Barbaria 19:10 Host the week 20:09 Mesmerised 21:14 Heil Honey I'm Home 22:17 Anchorwoman 22:44 Kookyville 23:33 Comedians unleashed 24:21 Osbournes reloaded 25:37 Ford Nation 28:11 The Chop 29:08 The Will 30:09 The Melting Pot 30:47 Beware Of Dog 31:27 Hardwicke House 31:59 Who's your Daddy? You're welcome!
The game show Pitfall was cancelled, never paid its contestants, and the winners never got any of the prizes they were promised -- but it still went into syndication and could be seen for the next 20 years in reruns.
The ones that were canceled after one ep. just for low ratings without any other controversies boggle my mind. I know nothing about the tv business, but even the low-budget shows must cost a fortune to produce, so why wouldn't they air at least a few more episodes and give it a fighting chance?
I found it super weird that he went into the history of other ones like the creators of archer, but didn’t mention that the creator of Krogoth the barbarian made a similar show, Primal, also for adult swim that got a full season in 2019.
Corporate entities didn't so much get in the way back in the 40s and 50s as much as they completely sponsored most shows. Many of the biggest shows were called by the corporate sponsor's name first followed by the name of the show. So a show would be named something like Chevrolet's Star of Stars or the Quaker Oats Oatmeal presents Sid Caesar comedy hour. Neither of these shows are real I'm just making an amalgam but it's not correct to say that corporate sponsorship was destroying shows back then or overly influencing shows. They were the shows.
Back then that was really the only way to get funding, especially when a lot of shows were local, not national. People forget that even as late as the late 60's a relatively simple show like Star Trek was considered *too expensive*
Wake up in 1950s America, put on your suit, say goodbye to your wife and 3 kids, start your job at Glensdale Toaster Company which owns 17 T.V Stations.
I vividly remember watching Osbourne's Reloaded the night it premiered. I had to have been 12 or 13, and my mom and I got up to the "kissing the grandma" thing before we promptly turned the channel; it was definitely A Choice
In my opinion, if a series is taken off air before the all produced episodes are shown, the TV network should publish the lot on their on demand service for the few people who may have enjoyed the content.
I think if the show got extremely negative reviews and ratings the network buries it. For example, there was a planned spin-off of the popular show “1000 Ways to Die” called “1000 Ways to Lie” which was about scams and deception. The pilot was a horrible and dull piece of trash, and the audience thought so to. Apparently it had several episodes already filmed but after the pilot was extremely poorly received Spike TV scrapped the remaining episodes and the pilot never aired again .
First of all, the editing!!! Second I love these type of videos. It helps people know things that are super interesting,and it's fun to watch honestly!
I say the interpolation of source footage was executed very poorly. As someone who has played with AI interpolating quite a bit, this looks like default (or plain winging it) settings and just going for it. FlowFrames is an incredible tool, and if you use it be sure to fix scene changes, and I set it at 0.07 to even work in dark scenes or flashy gunfire. Enabling this would nearly completely fix the smearing in this video
My favorite line ab out "Turn On" was that,. after the show was pulled from the air, the President of their main sponsor, Ralston-Purina, wrote the producers "If you naughty little boys are going to write naughty things on the walls, would you kindly not use our walls"
Reminds me of a comic strip I once saw: A teenage boy is watching TV, and the announcer says, "Be sure to check out the premiere of our newest, star-studded, surefire hit sitcom!! We'll be canceling it after tonight, so don't miss it!!" Then the announcer says, "Whoops, sorry, it's already been cancelled", to which the teenager responds, "If only TV shows were as funny as the programming."
This video made me think about a show I heard about where they put their contestants into a chamber that simulated extreme heat and extreme cold and they had to answer questions while being in said oven or freezer, whichever the host decided on. It also featured like simulated earthquakes and high wind speeds as well but I could be wrong. If I recall it was called “The chamber” and had 6 episodes done but only 3 episodes aired.
In 1977, a year before Andy Kaufman was on Taxi, he had his own futuristic sitcom that took place in 2055 where he adapted his foreign man character into a robot servant for a married couple. It was called Stick Around and only the pilot exists. I’m glad it was canned because I doubt it would have been nearly as good as Taxi lol
Australia’s naughtiest home video was taken off in the first 15 minutes because it was all animals humping and kids getting really hurt. I remember that.
The owner of Nine Network at the time, Kerry Packer, also saw it (even though viewers were warned that it was not Australia’s Funniest Home Video Show, which ran until 2014) and ordered it axed (even though it was a one-off episode). The full show did eventually air three years after Packer died, in 2008. Home Video Show ended in 2014 after 25 seasons.
Found your channel the other day with the movie iceberg video and I've absolutely been loving the other content you have put out, I love the really chill vibe you give off
after watching the movies that shouldnt exist iceberg, i got more iceberg videos recommended to me, but didnt care enough to watch them as i assumed it'd only be interesting when it was in regards to movies and how wrong i was, i want more of this, this is great! joey can make even the most random things become full on interesting stories
I had heard of "Heil Honey I'm Home" but I always thought it was one of those fake shows they made inside a real sitcom. I had no idea they actually tried to air this.
Don't normally comment on the state of a YT channel, but I absolutely love the two iceberg videos of yours I stumbled across! You've got an easy-to-listen-to voice, your jokes are great, and I'm more than eagerly waiting for more of these kinds of videos!
There is one that should technically count for this show. Back in 2004 there was a reality show that was done to set up a reboot for The Partridge Family. The reality show itself ran for a full season and was quite successful as all my co workers at the time gushed about it around the water cooler. However the Partridge Family show itself only had one episode officially made. All that work to create an ensemble cast for a reboot and they only bothered to make one episode on it.
I'm so glad you mentioned that Beware of Dog show; in the deepest recess of my memory hole, I remember watching it at age 12 and thinking it was cool there was a dog sitcom, but only remember seeing it once. But Danny Bonaduche (however it's spelled) riding a unicycle is a fantastic piece of content that totally deserves its own show 😂 "Leaving your guest totally unprepared..." Eric Andre Show anyone? 😆
The Eric Andre show doesn't bring in unprepared guests. It's a comedy skit, they're acting like they don't know what's going on. You don't really think those are real people with no TV experience right?
Random fun fact: It's rumored the series premiere of the animated series "The Oblongs" was pulled during the middle of airing in Australia due to how offensive and dark the show was and never aired the show there again.
I just wanted to say holy shit Joey you’ve blown up from these videos it’s great to see!! I was watching a video of someone reacting to this and thought “damn this guy looks a lot like Joey” and holy shit it is. I was a big fan of Dashie and the skits and you were always one of my favorite people it’s so great seeing you do well. All love Joey 🥹
@@joeyengelman It was a video of Charlie (penguinz0) reacting to it on stream and these ice berg videos are always interesting then I see that it’s you. Pretty crazyy
Just had to interrupt my own viewing to comment and compliment your restraint on not clowning on someone's surname literally being bussy. Because I was too immature and laughed out loud as soon as you said it. 😭
I, for one, am just amazed broadcasting censors of that era allowed even ONE episode to air!!! Like, I totally understand the celebrity star-power & name recognition which would’ve come with Jackie Gleason hosting in 1961; but I think the show’s glaringly red-flag-of-a-title, _“Urine History”,_ should’ve definitely raised at least an eyebrow or two!!!
A friend of mine used to host an indie show about failed TV pilots and did a feature on Heil Honey I'm Home. The cringe was very real, I will never understand how anyone in media control in England, the nation behind the whole Video Nasties controversy, could have thought that the show deserved seven episodes.
It's been a few years, I think it was just Failed TV Pilots. It ran on B-Movie TV over on Roku a number of years back and unfortunately isn't available anymore.
it's the uk. gore and nudity are well out, but fascism? blackface? homophobia? that's all goodold-fashioned fun! a british staple for the whole family!
seen this vid a few times now but 25:42 is the best sfw legalese summation i've ever heard of a series of events that culminated in doug ford being caught high on crack cocaine calling the prime minister a homophobic slur
Who's Your Daddy just semes like a cruel premise in general. "Let's have people emotionally manipulate and gaslight a adopted woman and make a contest out of it. Isn't that fun!?"
The Xtacles was hilarious. People never even gave it a chance. Same goes with Korgoth of Barbaria. P.s. I can't say much but for a time the guys at Adult Swim made some really odd decisions. I was a potential writer back then and started a pilot for a show that got scrapped kind of out of nowhere.
I've been a viewer since the network started, and I'll always be annoyed by a lot of the decisions they've made. I remember finding out that Mike Lazzo "allegedly" said they don't have very many women writer's because women can't handle conflict. Clearly not everyone at the network has their head screwed on straight.
When you were describing The Rich List, it reminded me of a show we used to have in the UK. Turns out the National Lottery: Who Dares Wins was based on the format. They changed it so you only won a max of £50k for getting 15 right in a round, but they had multiple rounds an episode & if you kept winning you'd come back on the next episode. Our version lasted on TV for 12 years, though the most anyone ever won was £170k ^^
Even the clips of The Rich List look to have a very similar studio and special effects... and I'm also giggling about how The Rich List was hosted by Eamonn Holmes!
I'm pretty sure Who Dares Wins was literally meant to be a UK adaptation of The Rich List but since the US version got cancelled immediately, nobody really realised that. I'm also pretty sure that The Rich List was brought back in the US as The Money List on GSN and only got cancelled after 1 SEASON instead of 1 episode!
I thought Who Dare Wins was one of the best tv quizzes ever. Even though I can't stand the presenter (Nick Knowles) it was still required viewing at my house.
OK, I checked all the comments and not even the posters from Kansas seem to realize that not only did you diss "The Will" and Kansas, but the map you show at the end of the segment has NEBRASKA highlighted. Kansas not even important enough to make the map highlighted.
There used to be an old show by Animal Planet (remember that stuff haha-) called Bad Dog and it was about what dogs did while their owners were gone. I think it only got 1-1 1/2 full seasons but it was a good show.
Actually "Heil Honney I'm home" actually got a whole season produced and that single broadcast episode did run on an exotic satellite network nobody got.
Regarding the Animal Planet comedy show: I remember reading once that Yakov Smirnov talked about trying to be a comedian in the USSR, and said that literally the only topics the Communist Party would allow them to make jokes about were animals and the weather. All other topics were completely off limits.
The one I’m the most familiar with was “1000 Ways to Lie” which was a spin-off of the popular show “1000 Ways to Die”. “Lie” was meant to be a spin-off but after the first episode apparently got extremely negative reviews and bombed in ratings the rest of the series never aired and the pilot never aired again. I remember watching it when it aired live and I thought it was dumb and dull as hell anyway.
Hear me out: Milligan may have, at least partially, had the right of it, vis-a-vis the reasoning behind the cancellation of The Melting Pot. The British entertainment establishment was far more comfortable with “blacking up” during even this late era than many who aren’t familiar with the programming of that time would (want to) believe. And with that in mind, Milligan would likely never have considered that the BBC would have a problem with a white man performing in brownface in the year 1976, because in the year 1976 that type of stuff was already all over the BBC. Most egregiously, in 1976, The Black and White Minstrel Show was still featuring white performers in blackface, performers who acted out racial stereotypes associated with it on a weekly basis and to very good ratings. Why then, would it be seen as a problem to have a white man play a guy from Pakistan if there was a whole white cast playing African Americans in a different time slot? I’m suggesting that within that context, there was no problem. Today, the show is almost universally seen as the disgrace that it always was, but The Black and White Minstrel Show was still going strong in the mid-‘70s and it began all the way back in the 1950s. People tried to get that show cancelled for decades and discourse from people with relevant influence over television programming often turned ugly, ex. the words “[Black people] should just shut up about it” were used on one occasion when the prospect of pulling the show from the air was raised. Mind you, this was said while the powers that be were acknowledging how deeply offensive and racist these depictions were, AND at the same time as they were admitting that this show was harmful/hurtful towards the people being mocked. That particular instance occurred in the early ‘60s, so by the mid-‘70s it was pretty clear where the network stood on blackface, ie. “pro.” That show wasn’t put out of its misery until 1978, so while the full and true reasons behind The Melting Pot’s cancellation may not be known, I don’t think that it was pulled out of any respect for the dignity of POC; there wasn’t any. Check out some of the programming from “The Beeb” from that era: it’s wild with the “ethnic humour.” Are You Being Served? has a few moments that would make your hair curl.
I also came here to say this. In June 2020, the NYT wrote an article about how Bo' Selecta!, Little Britain, and several other 2000's comedy shows were removed from UK streaming services for their insensitive, racist content, including the use of black face.
i had guessed the same thing really, at the time it wasnt uncommon to at least not mind it, and i'd doubt heavily it was cause blackface, this just confirms that it most likely wasnt sadly we were pretty bad back then, but if anything at least things are considerably better nowadays either way, i wonder what was the actual reason for the cancellation
I was thinking of a specific episode that I think is called "Roots?", the name being a reference to the book/miniseries, I'm assuming; they were both in the zeitgeist at the time of the episode's airing. If I'm remembering correctly, the staff spends the episode trying to discover Young Mr. Grace's family origins (for his birthday, or something), and the episode ends with a straight-up minstrel show in order to indicate that he is descended from enslaved black people. The whole cast was in full minstrel costume, including blackface, singing and dancing to banjo and tambourine music. I'm guessing that episode doesn't get shown in syndication these days.
If there was anything that could've been "De-Sucktified" is Kookyville. Sounds like they tried to make Seinfeld but in a reality setting, minus the comedy of script 😐🤨 And Whose Your Daddy... it's just a low budget yet less ghetto spin of The Maury Show. What a list shows we've had the pleasure of never seeing. Awesome job on having to go through all these horrendous shows to craft this upload. Dono day is coming, see ya!
Ay Demon thanks man! Spot on about Kookyville, there was another comment about it that was like, "The thinking presumably was that if comedians are inspired by real people then let’s go straight to the source." lol
14:57 Just a clarification about Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos with Doug Mulray, it was only meant to be a one-off special, not a series. But the reason it was pulled mid-show (and replaced with reruns of the sitcom Cheers) was because Kerry Packer (the father of Mariah Carey's ex-fiancee Jamie Packer, and the then-owner and CEO of the Nine Network; which aired the special) watched the show and was so offended of it's content that he infamously called the studio operators and shouted "Get this shit off the air!!". In fact, they announced that it couldn't air the rest of the special due to "technical difficulties", and it was only announced the next day that it was pulled. The day after it's broadcast, Packer berated his staff for airing what he called "Disgusting and offensive shit", and later sacked Mulray and most of the people involved with the show, with Mulray also being "banned for life" from the network (although he did appear on the network a couple of times since 2002, three years before Packer passed away; although only one of his appearances was when Packer was still alive). Yet, despite Packer not liking the show, and while the network did recieve some calls from viewers complaining about the show, it was actually popular with the viewers, as when it was announced that the show was in fact pulled, they recieved thousands of calls from viewers, with a majority of the callers complaining about the show being pulled. Channel Nine actually rebroadcasted the special in 2008, with commentary from the recently departed TV legend Burt Newton, who when the re-broadcast got to the 'Technical Difficulties' part, referenced the incident by saying "The stated reason was 'technical difficulties' which was accurate... since it is TECHNICALLY very DIFFICULT to keep a show on air...with Mr. Packer on the phone YELLING at you!", before finally airing the rest of the special that didn't air during the original broadcast. The re-broadcast was censored however, as some of the monologues from Mulray were cut as they were deemed to be "no longer acceptable". In my opinion, Kerry Packer was a dick for personally axing the special while it was still airing, but it was HIS television network at the time, and up until he passed away in 2005, he ultimately made the final decisions about some of the shows on the network. In fact, it was mostly thanks to Packer that one of my favourite TV shows when I was a kid, Stingers, was allowed to remain on-air following it's first season (despite losing in the ratings to Ally McBeal at the time), and would eventually be a modest success, airing until the end of it's eighth season in 2004.
Good video, though I'm surprised "You're in The Picture" only made the fourth tier, considering it's one of the best known one-episode only TV shows of all time.
Thumbs up for including Turn On, which I was able to watch in its entirety in the D.C. area as a young teenager. I thought it was great. It featured The Body Politic, a young pulchritudinous woman in a bikini, which I felt had great artistic value. The very first scene was a key turning in a panel (the turn on) and the very last scene was the same key turning off, which was quite ironic. The credits were spaced through the show, instead of just at the end or at the beginning. I remember a joke between two of the (computer administrators, I guess): "I dreamed I was a duck in Eldridge Cleaver's bathtub." "What did you do?" "I MIGRATED man."
The Rich List is a great concept. I watched some episodes of the British version (Who Dares Wins) and I liked it. It's well over the bar of "the lowest knowledge you need to call something a quiz show", it has right amount of drama and has an unique, but quite easy gameplay - it's like Family Feud met Wikipedia list of lists.
This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!
Another couple of shows canceled after only one(or less) episode(s) to add to the list: Global Frequency. Based on an American comic book limited series created and written by Warren Ellis and published by Wildstorm Productions, an imprint of DC Comics. The plan was to capitalize on the success of the recent DC Comics Arrow. Canceled before the pilot could be aired because the pilot was leaked online, which annoyed Warner Brothers to the extent that they killed the project. To this day though, the pilot is still downloaded via torrents and P2P. Virtuality. After seeing the scheduled airing time of Virtuality, Michael Taylor called it a "New Orleans funeral", having little hope in Fox picking up the series. Virtuality was filmed as a pilot but aired as a movie when Fox failed to pick up the series. On Friday June 26, 2009 Jessica Blank, wife of actor Erik Jensen who portrayed Dr. Jules Braun, posted a call to action on her husband's Facebook page urging people to watch the movie and write in support of more episodes.
I can’t help thinking of all the crews who thought thank God, an income. It’s those people who lose out frequently. Too many of these scam shows and just….really some are…unfortunate in the extreme😂 Well done here!
You missed South of Sunset, which starred Glenn Frey. CBS canceled it after one episode in 1993, though other produced episodes would eventually air on VH1.
I just found your channel Joey, and I loved this episode. I'd heard of some of them (Heil Hitler, the David Hasselhoff one, and the Jackie Gleason one), but the rest were definitely new ones for me. Looking forward to watching the other video when i have a chance as well as your next ones.
The still confusing cancellation is "Emily's Reasons Why Not". The pilot ratings were good, and it really wasn't that bad. ABC dumped a ton of money into the show, they should have just let the series run through it's episodes, and it's not as if most shows on network TV were much better than this.
I remember watching Korgoth when it first aired and being so excited. I thought it was a new series, but after only airing that episode multiple times I got the hint lol. The creator recently made another show for Hulu (I think) and it’s pretty good tbh.
I was 11 at the time, and I remember _Emily's Reasons Why Not_ being hyped up to the moon - magazine covers, billboards, you name it - and so it lasting just one episode is hilarious to me. ABC put so much blind faith into a show that was dead on arrival.
Hey Joey! You also forgot to mention the quickly-cancelled shows "Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire" and "Megan wants a millionaire", for both of those were quite fraudulent and controversial.
Megan Wants a Millionaire surprisingly made it a few episodes before it was taken off the air, and I cover Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire in my most recent iceberg 🕺
12:06 Fun fact: The Rich List was actually revived in 2007 in the UK as a tie-in to the BBC National Lottery. It was called Who Dares Wins, and was pretty successful all the way up to 2016.
I remember a radio contest of "Guess The Sound"... And they had this noise that sounded exactly like the footstep sound effect of one of those two legged walking machines in Star Wars Return Of The Jedi. Kind of a *k-thunk* noise. Literally hundreds of people texted and phoned in with that answer. Turns out though... it was the noise of the plastic parts inside the cistern of the staff toilets inside the radio station's building. The winner of the £10,000 was... ... ... ... the niece of the head of the station.
I'm adopted, just hearing the concept of this show made me ugly cry. No way would i want a reality show to dangle this in my face. I miss my mum so much and i wish i knew who she was
I know it wasn’t under the same name but are we not gonna count Primal as effectively being Adult Swim picking up Korgoth? Same creator, similar premise, similar art. They’re similar enough that treating Korgoth as the pilot to Primal doesn’t feel outside the realm of how much shows often change from pilot episodes to the rest of their season.
"Heil Honey, I'm Home" sounds like the premise of a funny comedy sketch, but a crazy fever dream of a sitcom.
I feel like it could've worked if it just a random German citizen at the time, instead of Hitler.
@@Web720 but then the title doesn't work.
Hear me out: Reboot of Heil Honey, I'm Home, but directed by Taika Waititi
@@genericname2747 It still works tho, because it's German citizens in Nazi Germany.
@@Web720 I dunno, referencing nazis if it's just a normal German person is...not good
It's a shame you didn't go deeper into Australia's Naughtiest. The story goes that the owner of the network phoned the station CEO during the first half to demand he "get that s**t off the air". When they cut to a commercial break, there were no commercials, just an announcement that there was a "technical issue" and into a replacement programme.
didn't they also years later reair the show and actually air the second half as well?
Yeah, we read about that during the livestream! I think he may have not included it due to time constraints, trying to keep the video at a certain length? But for sure, wild stuff!
Wilder still is the probability that we STILL haven’t seen Australia’s Naughtiest Home Videos in its entirety. The version that aired in 2008 had portions that were pulled from the original episode that still haven’t seen the light of day, for very good reason.
Oh wow I’d forgotten that entirely!🙄
Yes, the story is hilarious and very Aussie lol
The world's first apology video and he did it right. He focused on the issues, what went wrong or needed to be fixed. He didn't spend 30 crying about how this affected him and he can't eat or sleep, making all about him
Exactly, he made an ungodly amount of jokes at his own expense though
And he spared us the ukelele solo.
He did manage to work in the sponsors though.
@@hiimemily well that’s how apology videos work
@@hiimemilyhad to legally
honestly, hearing about some of these downright sociopathic shows getting cancelled because everyone hated them so much gives me some hope for humanity.
Who’s Your Daddy premise is so cruel and it encouraged lies and emotional manipulation that is just cruel no matter the circumstances.
The fact that the people in question are adoptees who have legitimate stakes in this makes it unbelievably worse.
It would have been one thing if it was people trying to correctly guess who their father was wearing a disguise among a bunch of other guys wearing costumes and voice changers.
yea this seems like a much better idea and you dont even have to change that much from the original concept
I wanna a reboot it has one of the most creative premises plus emotions will get viewers tuning in
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So were the “kids” forced to do it pretty much or completely lied to? I feel as long as they were over like 12 and they willingly wanted to be a part of it and said yes multiple times then eh seems fine to me, again as long as everyone knows its like a game and for the show. If they were somehow conned into it or thrown in by their parents or whatever with almost no context then yeah thats fucked.
@@Monochrome2004 Yeah you get a whole bunch of prosthetics and even put a few in drag Mrs Doubtfire style or like that dating show with the masks. That would be so stupid but a lot more tasteful.
Nobody said the bar was high lmal
I deadass collapsed on my couch when he started saying "The BUSSY Bunch," like, jeepers, telegraph that next time, holy shit that floored me.
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Oh god same. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I had to listen to that one like three times to make sure I was hearing right. And he kept saying it over and over again... He's gotta know...
Lol I do know
@@joeyengelman Just... Imagine what that show might be. Talk about a show that would be pulled after one episode!
@@joeyengelman So you're saying you did that on purpose? You dastard, a joke like that could have killed me! XD
24:00 "how many comedians are going to want to write a full set about animal jokes" that's just the bee movie
touché
Didn't Zootopia have more?
@@aralornwolf3140 Eh, Zootopia had some good jokes, the 'Elephant on the Room' one was pretty damn good.
By far, Seinfeld's best work.
Madagascar?
Mad respect to adult swim for doing that bumper explaining why pilots weren't picked up. Honesty is cool.
Also the "what's the picture" or whatever Jackie Gleason show I think would work well for a game on Whose Line, but not an entire tv show.
Actually, they did a similar game featuring sticking heads in paintings in several episodes of the original UK WL series. Called "Picture", they just improvised a scene with them sticking their heads in the painting, rather than guessing what the image was. It only was done a couple times, it did seem like a premise that would wear out its welcome.
Ah the infamous You're in the pickture with Jackie Gleason...it was so bad that the next week he did a 30-minute monologue on why it stunk on ice.
@@newstarcadefan Wild how people will come reply to shit like 15 comments deep on a video they haven't watched.
@@CR4ZYeyes It's wild that people who watched the video are allowed to give additonal information when it's needed without the snark.
Plus I imagine creating the props would be fairly expensive compared to other Whose Line games@@djmoch1001
As a woman with a handbag, I can confirm that we do not in fact put balaclava or rawlplugs. Didn't know they were a thing before watching
I've watched "Heil Honey, I'm Home" a couple of times and it's honestly not a bad show. Some of the jokes were pretty funny and the characters were fairly likable. It's not terrible, while not being exceptionally good. The show's problem is obvious: it's fucking Hitler.
If this aired at like two in the morning on something like Adult Swim it would be great, because then it would ironic, but trying to make it a typical family sitcom is what makes it bad.
The problem was the choice of audience. Mainstream doesn't get irony, they consume entertainment without thinking. So of course, seeing the Funny Moustached Man™ in a scenario that isn't him being insulted in some way broke them.
The irony here is that this "demonization" of errors throughout our history has made it so that many people see Hitler as some sort of eldritch entity rather than a very mentally ill man in a Germany filled with conspiracy theories and a broken economy. These same people hating on Heil Honey are the same people who'd shit on a movie like Downfall for showing Hitler as a human who chose horribly wrong rather than a monster under the bed.
i saw it. in bad taste. but it was funny. and i saw the tim conway episode. it was the funniest american show i ever saw. nothing beats monty python
>"...the characters were fairly likable"
Lol. Yeah, can't imagine why a TV station would axe a show that makes Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun "fairly likable"
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 This one, this is how I feel about it.
Yeah it really hit the wrong audience at the wrong time
Hey! Some of the commercial channels here in Australia tried those late night phone in contests to make up their "local content" quota. It all came to an end when an internet group got together and started phoning in and answering every question, regardless of what it was with "India". 2+2? "India". It got them noticed. It got them cancelled. And yes, it was all a money making scam as well.
wow thanks for sharing i gotta read up about this lol i hope there's video clips
"What's the square root of Pi?"
"India"
"If 3x+2x=15, what is x?"
"India"
"Who is currently the queen of Denmark?"
"India"
"In what year did the October Revolution take place?"
"India"
I'm having too much fun writing these XD
@@BazukinBelyugovich LEININ IS BRON IN INDIA
And you can't forget the apparent phone call Kerry Packer made to end Australia's Naughtiest home videos which was rumoured to be a series: Get that @#$! off the air!
@@BazukinBelyugovich WHO STARTED WW2?
INDIA
Ew, "Who's Your Daddy" is such a gross concept because there's incentives for the fake dads to lie and emotionally manipulate the guesser. Sure, it's nice that the guessers still get to meet their real fathers, but it'd still be a psychologically painful experience having all these men desperately trying to pretend to be your father when it's already a pretty heavy situation to be in.
It's like Mama Mia, but with more men and more psychological trauma and gaslighting!
Honestly. Just go on Long Lost Family, not this :o
Yeah, I felt the same way. Though technically I wasn't put up for adoption as an infant, I still had a biological father out there I didn't know about until I was an adult. It's a very emotional time and can be awkward as well. To have that be used in a game show is horrible. I couldn't imagine myself trying to do that. Also how terrible a person do you have to be to trick a person into believing that you are their father, only to get money. And then there is the mental trauma of finding that out. That you are already starting to make a connection to, only to find out that, "No, you guessed wrong. This person is your father."
@@MajorTeag I would happily trick someone for 100k
I'm glad it didn't last. God bless you all 💓
One of the girls on Breaking Boston was the daughter of a coworker of mine. Tragic story unfortunately, she passed away a few months ago. :(
Awww, I'm so sorry
If I had a nickel for every time a History Channel reality show got into hot water because of a participant's nazi tattoos, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much, but it's weird it happened twice.
...When was the first time?
@@stephanniemorin Forged in Fire, season 8 premiere (2020)
@@oals29 could you expand please
@@PBSkid08 A guy had a Waffen SS tattoo on his neck. The show didn't get cancelled but the episode never got mentioned again.
dang it's so surprising that such a specific problem would be had by a channel that specifically got big from a show all about touting nazi conspiracy theories
The AI generated show was literally half a century ahead of its time, legend
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As someone who is very close to the hypnotism scene in Australia I can tell you one of the reasons Peter Powers' show was pulled was due to people calling the network and complaining that they/ their partners/ their children were "hypnotised" over the air. Pretty stupid but it happens everytime whether it's on tv or radio. Plus Peter powers is a pretty cancerous human and brings a bad name to hypnotism using techniques that involve hitting and strong arming people in order to induce them. There's an English hypnotist that has similar vibes and is equally weird suggesting women make out with him on stage while under.
FYI: Stage Hypnotism is not magic and people still have their free thought and if a suggestion does not line up with the morals of a person they still have the autonomy to refuse.
Lifehack: hit people so they do what you want. It's not assault, it's hypnotism
I knew he was probably as toxic as he looked, but his series over in Europe were fun, it’s a shame that the fun ended being toxic. But yeah, I mean of course if we want evil but ethical mentalists, it’s Derren Brown all the way.
Fyi, all hypnosis is complete bull shit people play along, or make crap up. It's totally debunked garbage.
@@larryscarr3897 eh, that’s cherry-picked, and of course you know that. It both is and isn’t.
@@Apollostowel nope, since Mesmer made that crap up it has been garbage. Can't "Cherry pick" because nobody has seriously studied hypnotism since disco was popular. (The effect disappears in double blind lab conditions, cuz it's a show not magic mind control. Surprise!!
Chiropractic, and acupuncture are also completely stupid nonsense 😉
There's one show I can think of that I think was cancelled after its first episode. It was called Bobb'e Says and it appeared on Cartoon Network in 2009 when they were doing their poorly received live action phase. It was a show that hosts a kid named Bobb'e and in it he would comment on viral videos. I watched it when it first premiered. And that was the only time it was played on the channel and it was never mentioned again. Most of the CN Real shows had extremely low ratings and were all cancelled after their first season. The only ones that survived more than one season were Destroy Build Destroy and Hole in the Wall with those finally being cancelled around 2013.
dude what would happen also had two seasons. i actually really liked that show when i was young
AND hole in the wall is copied from a pretty much identical show from another country, I’m thinking Japan?
@@zachh.9065 I did too. It was one of the better shows from that era. It was kind of like Jackass and Bill Nye the Science Guy show put together.
@@ComfyCatNya Oh? Didn't know that.
I kinda liked hitw tbh
A note about Who's Whose: I'm fairly certain the photo flipbook style for the show was only used for the initial pitch episode (now known as a pilot) shown to networks. Once it was sold to CBS, it stitched to the standard kinescope format
For the longest time, I thought "Heil Honey, I'm Home" was made up, like the internet created it and it wasn't like a real, syndicated show. I was mindblown when I found out that people actually put this on air on television.
Like it would make a decent family guy sketch or a South Park gag, but as a whole show, I think it would get old too quickly.
It instantly made me think of "Whose Line is it Anyway?" when they named a fake sitcom skit that got censored before they could perform it called "Cosby and Hitler."
I wonder if Heil Honey, I’m Home was inspired by a Monty Python skit called The Atilla the Hun Show. It was a satire of U.S. sitcoms, which HHIH was intended to be.
@@spiderbug7615yep and the rest of the episode they kept making Hitler and Wacky Nazi jokes,even comparing their Director to Hitler in the hoedown.
I'm kinda surprised "Sammy" wasnt mentioned in this iceberg. Sammy was a cartoon made by David Spade, and it was scheduled to air on NBC in 2000 as part of like a cartoon block NBC was trying to do. The show flopped, and it was cancelled after two of its episodes aired with little to no promotion for one week in August 2000. Some NBC affiliates apparently aired different episodes going out of order, and I believe some didn't even air it at all. For the longest time, the show was completely lost, with no footage of it surviving, until a crew member had the entire series on VHS which were then ripped and all uploaded to youtube last new years eve.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Adult Adoption. That was seriously a messed up show.
Unfortunately it lasted more than 1 episode. Not much more, but it lasted longer than it should have.
If you want an awful series to deconstruct, there was one in the uk called "home for the holidays"
It lasted for 1 season and featured a couple getting married and putting them in a house with both their families for christmas.
They had a wedding fund but let the families take money out for themselves. It was horiffic.
It’s their own fault for letting their own families take out their money
@@wolfetteplays8894 oh it gets better, they didnt have a choice, the presenters just kept doing things like, "you wanted a new car, we will give you this new car worth £25K but it'll take £5K out the wedding fund."
Who would say no to that.
Jeeeeessuuss Christ, that actually sounds like a nightmare to experience.
@@JuicyJenitals "God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose"
Great. So in other words, your premise is structured to be uncontestable and unfalsifiable. In other words, it's BS.
LOVE THIS! Expecting some really weird shit at the end haha!
And also, hol' up, OVER 300K VIEWS ON THE LAST VIDEO?! We're finally taking off babyyyy, so damn happy for you man!
lol i'm still in shock at how that video has taken off. and your name makes a very quick cameo in one of the entries 👀
Hahaha just noticed the lil chat from me, that's a credit-worthy cameo right there!
Can't wait for this video to take off too! ;)
Man I LOVED the pilot for Korgoth the Barbarian! It's such a shame the show NEVER took off. Seeing that it was "Too expensive" makes so much sense. The show looked like they used traditional animation over more modern forms and I can appreciate it got made. If you guys love Fantasy, especially _DARK_ fantasy (IE, adult stuff) you'd get a kick out of it, it's here on UA-cam, I'm sure. I was really rooting for that show to take off.
I think if they switched it up and used digital production for it, it'd do _really_ well with a lot of us 80s/90s fantasy nerds that played/still play D&D, since most of us are all grown now.
Edit; THAT PETER POWERS DUDE CAME TO MY SCHOOL WHEN I WAS IN HIGHSCHOOL!! He convinced the most scrawny of the dudes that went up to be under his hypnosis that he was a 'body builder' and he 'had to show off as much of his body as possible.' The kid ALMOST got naked on stage. HE WAS A SOPHOMORE. And, he convinced one of my friends that he was the boyfriend of "the hottest girl in school." He was a Junior at the time. He believed it for a few days afterwards, too. She had to finally slap him to wake him up from it. It was pretty bad.
that Peter Powers thing is so disturbing
P.P. is basically a fraudster. Someone should've reported him to the police
@@stephanniemorin he seems like a creep too
Bro is a pro liar
0:14 The Debbie king show
1:16 Barstool Van Talk.
2:04 Viva Laughlin
3:01 The Hasselhoffs
3:41 Public morals
4:21 The Herman Cain Show
4:58 Back with the Ex
5:49 Dot Comedy
6:46 Lawless
7:49 The Bussey Bunch
8:29 Ahora, La Mundial
9:07 Secret talents of the Stars
10:08 Who's Whose
11:28 Quarterlife
12:06 The Rich List
13:00 Breaking Ba- I mean Boston
13:46 The Dennis James Carnival
14:36 Videos After Dark
15:43 You're in the Picture
16:57 Emily's Reasons Why Not
17:54 The Xtacles
18:22 Korgoth Of Barbaria
19:10 Host the week
20:09 Mesmerised
21:14 Heil Honey I'm Home
22:17 Anchorwoman
22:44 Kookyville
23:33 Comedians unleashed
24:21 Osbournes reloaded
25:37 Ford Nation
28:11 The Chop
29:08 The Will
30:09 The Melting Pot
30:47 Beware Of Dog
31:27 Hardwicke House
31:59 Who's your Daddy?
You're welcome!
The game show Pitfall was cancelled, never paid its contestants, and the winners never got any of the prizes they were promised -- but it still went into syndication and could be seen for the next 20 years in reruns.
I think the only reason they didn't wipe the Pitfall tapes was because it was hosted by Alex Trebek (who never got paid either)
RIP George Alexander Trebek (born: 1940; died: 2020)
What a great premise for an iceberg! Thank you so much for making this.
thank you tasha!
I’ll never not find it funny that a real legit tv series was named ‘the bussy bunch’
Same, especially because it's referring to the main cast's shared last name
The ones that were canceled after one ep. just for low ratings without any other controversies boggle my mind. I know nothing about the tv business, but even the low-budget shows must cost a fortune to produce, so why wouldn't they air at least a few more episodes and give it a fighting chance?
I found it super weird that he went into the history of other ones like the creators of archer, but didn’t mention that the creator of Krogoth the barbarian made a similar show, Primal, also for adult swim that got a full season in 2019.
lol I mean I did mention the creator and a few of the shows they've worked on 🤷♂️
The hypnotist counts as being ahead of his time as well. Because as we all know in the future the greatest show is Hypno toad.
When I heard "Bussey Bunch", I immediately thought of a family of cat-girl dressed femboys.
DAMN YOU INTERNET!
very unfortunate last name
You know it :)
So basically Thundercats but raunchier
Corporate entities didn't so much get in the way back in the 40s and 50s as much as they completely sponsored most shows. Many of the biggest shows were called by the corporate sponsor's name first followed by the name of the show. So a show would be named something like Chevrolet's Star of Stars or the Quaker Oats Oatmeal presents Sid Caesar comedy hour. Neither of these shows are real I'm just making an amalgam but it's not correct to say that corporate sponsorship was destroying shows back then or overly influencing shows. They were the shows.
Back then that was really the only way to get funding, especially when a lot of shows were local, not national. People forget that even as late as the late 60's a relatively simple show like Star Trek was considered *too expensive*
Wake up in 1950s America, put on your suit, say goodbye to your wife and 3 kids, start your job at Glensdale Toaster Company which owns 17 T.V Stations.
I vividly remember watching Osbourne's Reloaded the night it premiered. I had to have been 12 or 13, and my mom and I got up to the "kissing the grandma" thing before we promptly turned the channel; it was definitely A Choice
In my opinion, if a series is taken off air before the all produced episodes are shown, the TV network should publish the lot on their on demand service for the few people who may have enjoyed the content.
I think if the show got extremely negative reviews and ratings the network buries it.
For example, there was a planned spin-off of the popular show “1000 Ways to Die” called “1000 Ways to Lie” which was about scams and deception.
The pilot was a horrible and dull piece of trash, and the audience thought so to. Apparently it had several episodes already filmed but after the pilot was extremely poorly received Spike TV scrapped the remaining episodes and the pilot never aired again .
First of all, the editing!!! Second I love these type of videos. It helps people know things that are super interesting,and it's fun to watch honestly!
thanks jackie! always fun editing everything together
I agree! The Ozzy Osbourne edit when he mumbled and Joey was just like, "...Right. Okay..." took me out. Lmao.
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I say the interpolation of source footage was executed very poorly. As someone who has played with AI interpolating quite a bit, this looks like default (or plain winging it) settings and just going for it.
FlowFrames is an incredible tool, and if you use it be sure to fix scene changes, and I set it at 0.07 to even work in dark scenes or flashy gunfire. Enabling this would nearly completely fix the smearing in this video
My favorite line ab out "Turn On" was that,. after the show was pulled from the air, the President of their main sponsor, Ralston-Purina, wrote the producers "If you naughty little boys are going to write naughty things on the walls, would you kindly not use our walls"
I read that Bristol-Myers was the main sponsor.
Reminds me of a comic strip I once saw:
A teenage boy is watching TV, and the announcer says, "Be sure to check out the premiere of our newest, star-studded, surefire hit sitcom!! We'll be canceling it after tonight, so don't miss it!!"
Then the announcer says, "Whoops, sorry, it's already been cancelled", to which the teenager responds, "If only TV shows were as funny as the programming."
Reminds me of a Foxtrot comic!
@@stephanniemorin That's exactly what I was referencing :).
This video made me think about a show I heard about where they put their contestants into a chamber that simulated extreme heat and extreme cold and they had to answer questions while being in said oven or freezer, whichever the host decided on. It also featured like simulated earthquakes and high wind speeds as well but I could be wrong. If I recall it was called “The chamber” and had 6 episodes done but only 3 episodes aired.
I always wonder what networks do with unaired episodes.
He talks about it on another iceberg video, Shows that should never existed or something like that.
It sounds like it violates the Geneva convention. Gee wiz!
In 1977, a year before Andy Kaufman was on Taxi, he had his own futuristic sitcom that took place in 2055 where he adapted his foreign man character into a robot servant for a married couple. It was called Stick Around and only the pilot exists. I’m glad it was canned because I doubt it would have been nearly as good as Taxi lol
Australia’s naughtiest home video was taken off in the first 15 minutes because it was all animals humping and kids getting really hurt. I remember that.
The owner of Nine Network at the time, Kerry Packer, also saw it (even though viewers were warned that it was not Australia’s Funniest Home Video Show, which ran until 2014) and ordered it axed (even though it was a one-off episode). The full show did eventually air three years after Packer died, in 2008. Home Video Show ended in 2014 after 25 seasons.
Found your channel the other day with the movie iceberg video and I've absolutely been loving the other content you have put out, I love the really chill vibe you give off
hey thanks for watching! happy to have you here 🤙
after watching the movies that shouldnt exist iceberg, i got more iceberg videos recommended to me, but didnt care enough to watch them as i assumed it'd only be interesting when it was in regards to movies
and how wrong i was, i want more of this, this is great! joey can make even the most random things become full on interesting stories
thank you that really means a lot! more to come for sure
Bro I've been binging your content, and I kept scrolling and just realized I've seen you before lol. longtime dashie fan here. Small world.
I had heard of "Heil Honey I'm Home" but I always thought it was one of those fake shows they made inside a real sitcom. I had no idea they actually tried to air this.
Don't normally comment on the state of a YT channel, but I absolutely love the two iceberg videos of yours I stumbled across! You've got an easy-to-listen-to voice, your jokes are great, and I'm more than eagerly waiting for more of these kinds of videos!
hey thank you! i really appreciate that, more are on the way :)
There is one that should technically count for this show. Back in 2004 there was a reality show that was done to set up a reboot for The Partridge Family. The reality show itself ran for a full season and was quite successful as all my co workers at the time gushed about it around the water cooler. However the Partridge Family show itself only had one episode officially made. All that work to create an ensemble cast for a reboot and they only bothered to make one episode on it.
I remember this!
I'm so glad you mentioned that Beware of Dog show; in the deepest recess of my memory hole, I remember watching it at age 12 and thinking it was cool there was a dog sitcom, but only remember seeing it once. But Danny Bonaduche (however it's spelled) riding a unicycle is a fantastic piece of content that totally deserves its own show 😂
"Leaving your guest totally unprepared..."
Eric Andre Show anyone? 😆
Yeah, I also vaguely remember watching Beware of Dog. I don't remember much of it, but I do remember the dog.
I remember a dog show that had the same exact premise, i’m pretty sure it was on Disney Channel and I don’t remember the name of it.
@@thecreatorofpc7929 it's called dog with a blog!
the thing about the eric andre show is that it works even if the guest reacts simply by running away in sheer terror
The Eric Andre show doesn't bring in unprepared guests. It's a comedy skit, they're acting like they don't know what's going on. You don't really think those are real people with no TV experience right?
Random fun fact: It's rumored the series premiere of the animated series "The Oblongs" was pulled during the middle of airing in Australia due to how offensive and dark the show was and never aired the show there again.
How does this description qualify as a "fun fact"? Do people even know what words mean on the internet?
"the Bussey bunch"
that did not age well AT ALL😭
I literally just finished your other iceberg video and the gods blessed me with another one
craig i'm so glad to hear that for real thank you for watching!
I have to say, your recent videos are super interesting and I hope we'll get more stuff like this from you in the future.
hey thank you, this is definitely the direction i'm taking the channel from here.
I just wanted to say holy shit Joey you’ve blown up from these videos it’s great to see!! I was watching a video of someone reacting to this and thought “damn this guy looks a lot like Joey” and holy shit it is. I was a big fan of Dashie and the skits and you were always one of my favorite people it’s so great seeing you do well. All love Joey 🥹
hey thanks Danny that means a lot! what's this reaction video you're talking about i'd love to check it out
@@joeyengelman It was a video of Charlie (penguinz0) reacting to it on stream and these ice berg videos are always interesting then I see that it’s you. Pretty crazyy
@@dannyford2138 thanks for letting me know about this!
Your iceberg videos are uniquelly entertaining. I typically don't watch them but I love the topics you touch and your format! Subscribed.
I have only seen your stuff recently, and I am loving it! Great editing, great pacing, overall enjoyable.
hey thank you! means a lot
Nice pfp
@@valletas thanks, you too :^)
@Physically Remove Commies you don't get to say that with that name lol
@Physically Remove Commies whatever you say, random UA-cam commenter.
Just had to interrupt my own viewing to comment and compliment your restraint on not clowning on someone's surname literally being bussy. Because I was too immature and laughed out loud as soon as you said it. 😭
lol i'm peering into my crystal ball right now and i see many more comments about it coming
hehehehehe 😈
that has to be the most unfortunate surname I've heard
@@jarzz3601 Right? I thought it would be pronounced "Boosie" when I saw it, but no. 🥴
@@jarzz3601 Bussi is a little kiss in German
I, for one, am just amazed broadcasting censors of that era allowed even ONE episode to air!!! Like, I totally understand the celebrity star-power & name recognition which would’ve come with Jackie Gleason hosting in 1961; but I think the show’s glaringly red-flag-of-a-title, _“Urine History”,_ should’ve definitely raised at least an eyebrow or two!!!
*the rock eyebrow raise with vine boom*
A friend of mine used to host an indie show about failed TV pilots and did a feature on Heil Honey I'm Home. The cringe was very real, I will never understand how anyone in media control in England, the nation behind the whole Video Nasties controversy, could have thought that the show deserved seven episodes.
What was the show called? I would like to watch that!
It's been a few years, I think it was just Failed TV Pilots. It ran on B-Movie TV over on Roku a number of years back and unfortunately isn't available anymore.
it's the uk. gore and nudity are well out, but fascism? blackface? homophobia? that's all goodold-fashioned fun! a british staple for the whole family!
@@nemnyoombased uk
@@nemnyoomdrag is family friendly if it's Christmas or Mrs Brown's Boys. any other time it's poisoning our youth or something
seen this vid a few times now but 25:42 is the best sfw legalese summation i've ever heard of a series of events that culminated in doug ford being caught high on crack cocaine calling the prime minister a homophobic slur
Who's Your Daddy just semes like a cruel premise in general. "Let's have people emotionally manipulate and gaslight a adopted woman and make a contest out of it. Isn't that fun!?"
The Xtacles was hilarious. People never even gave it a chance. Same goes with Korgoth of Barbaria.
P.s. I can't say much but for a time the guys at Adult Swim made some really odd decisions. I was a potential writer back then and started a pilot for a show that got scrapped kind of out of nowhere.
Korgoth looked like it had a lot of potential!
I've been a viewer since the network started, and I'll always be annoyed by a lot of the decisions they've made. I remember finding out that Mike Lazzo "allegedly" said they don't have very many women writer's because women can't handle conflict. Clearly not everyone at the network has their head screwed on straight.
When you were describing The Rich List, it reminded me of a show we used to have in the UK. Turns out the National Lottery: Who Dares Wins was based on the format. They changed it so you only won a max of £50k for getting 15 right in a round, but they had multiple rounds an episode & if you kept winning you'd come back on the next episode. Our version lasted on TV for 12 years, though the most anyone ever won was £170k ^^
Even the clips of The Rich List look to have a very similar studio and special effects... and I'm also giggling about how The Rich List was hosted by Eamonn Holmes!
I'm pretty sure Who Dares Wins was literally meant to be a UK adaptation of The Rich List but since the US version got cancelled immediately, nobody really realised that. I'm also pretty sure that The Rich List was brought back in the US as The Money List on GSN and only got cancelled after 1 SEASON instead of 1 episode!
And I don't understand why it flopped in the US. I really like it and would love to see this show airing in Polish TV.
I thought Who Dare Wins was one of the best tv quizzes ever. Even though I can't stand the presenter (Nick Knowles) it was still required viewing at my house.
How much is £170,000 in American money?
OK, I checked all the comments and not even the posters from Kansas seem to realize that not only did you diss "The Will" and Kansas, but the map you show at the end of the segment has NEBRASKA highlighted. Kansas not even important enough to make the map highlighted.
There used to be an old show by Animal Planet (remember that stuff haha-) called Bad Dog and it was about what dogs did while their owners were gone. I think it only got 1-1 1/2 full seasons but it was a good show.
R.I.P. Mr. Saget.
Edit: Rob Ford's brother Doug is now the Premier of Ontario, Canada. Mayor Rob Ford died after a brief battle with cancer in 2016.
Australia's naughtiest videos was cancelled mid episode because the network owner called up and told them to "get this s*** off air".
Actually "Heil Honney I'm home" actually got a whole season produced and that single broadcast episode did run on an exotic satellite network nobody got.
If you keep your eyes peeled, you still see the odd squarial here and there.
Regarding the Animal Planet comedy show: I remember reading once that Yakov Smirnov talked about trying to be a comedian in the USSR, and said that literally the only topics the Communist Party would allow them to make jokes about were animals and the weather. All other topics were completely off limits.
The one I’m the most familiar with was “1000 Ways to Lie” which was a spin-off of the popular show “1000 Ways to Die”.
“Lie” was meant to be a spin-off but after the first episode apparently got extremely negative reviews and bombed in ratings the rest of the series never aired and the pilot never aired again.
I remember watching it when it aired live and I thought it was dumb and dull as hell anyway.
Hear me out: Milligan may have, at least partially, had the right of it, vis-a-vis the reasoning behind the cancellation of The Melting Pot.
The British entertainment establishment was far more comfortable with “blacking up” during even this late era than many who aren’t familiar with the programming of that time would (want to) believe. And with that in mind, Milligan would likely never have considered that the BBC would have a problem with a white man performing in brownface in the year 1976, because in the year 1976 that type of stuff was already all over the BBC.
Most egregiously, in 1976, The Black and White Minstrel Show was still featuring white performers in blackface, performers who acted out racial stereotypes associated with it on a weekly basis and to very good ratings. Why then, would it be seen as a problem to have a white man play a guy from Pakistan if there was a whole white cast playing African Americans in a different time slot? I’m suggesting that within that context, there was no problem.
Today, the show is almost universally seen as the disgrace that it always was, but The Black and White Minstrel Show was still going strong in the mid-‘70s and it began all the way back in the 1950s. People tried to get that show cancelled for decades and discourse from people with relevant influence over television programming often turned ugly, ex. the words “[Black people] should just shut up about it” were used on one occasion when the prospect of pulling the show from the air was raised. Mind you, this was said while the powers that be were acknowledging how deeply offensive and racist these depictions were, AND at the same time as they were admitting that this show was harmful/hurtful towards the people being mocked. That particular instance occurred in the early ‘60s, so by the mid-‘70s it was pretty clear where the network stood on blackface, ie. “pro.”
That show wasn’t put out of its misery until 1978, so while the full and true reasons behind The Melting Pot’s cancellation may not be known, I don’t think that it was pulled out of any respect for the dignity of POC; there wasn’t any.
Check out some of the programming from “The Beeb” from that era: it’s wild with the “ethnic humour.” Are You Being Served? has a few moments that would make your hair curl.
Came here to say this. Racial insensitivity was absolutely not an issue for the BBC in 1976
I also came here to say this. In June 2020, the NYT wrote an article about how Bo' Selecta!, Little Britain, and several other 2000's comedy shows were removed from UK streaming services for their insensitive, racist content, including the use of black face.
i had guessed the same thing really, at the time it wasnt uncommon to at least not mind it, and i'd doubt heavily it was cause blackface, this just confirms that it most likely wasnt
sadly we were pretty bad back then, but if anything at least things are considerably better nowadays
either way, i wonder what was the actual reason for the cancellation
Are You Being Served? did have some bad shit but tbh it's nothing compared with a literal fucking minstrel show jesus christ
I was thinking of a specific episode that I think is called "Roots?", the name being a reference to the book/miniseries, I'm assuming; they were both in the zeitgeist at the time of the episode's airing. If I'm remembering correctly, the staff spends the episode trying to discover Young Mr. Grace's family origins (for his birthday, or something), and the episode ends with a straight-up minstrel show in order to indicate that he is descended from enslaved black people. The whole cast was in full minstrel costume, including blackface, singing and dancing to banjo and tambourine music. I'm guessing that episode doesn't get shown in syndication these days.
Just finished the movie iceberg so this got uploaded at the perfect time. Love your sense of humor here, a lot less dry than other iceberg stuff
hey thanks for watching Jonii!
If there was anything that could've been "De-Sucktified" is Kookyville. Sounds like they tried to make Seinfeld but in a reality setting, minus the comedy of script 😐🤨
And Whose Your Daddy... it's just a low budget yet less ghetto spin of The Maury Show.
What a list shows we've had the pleasure of never seeing. Awesome job on having to go through all these horrendous shows to craft this upload.
Dono day is coming, see ya!
Ay Demon thanks man!
Spot on about Kookyville, there was another comment about it that was like, "The thinking presumably was that if comedians are inspired by real people then let’s go straight to the source." lol
14:57 Just a clarification about Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos with Doug Mulray, it was only meant to be a one-off special, not a series. But the reason it was pulled mid-show (and replaced with reruns of the sitcom Cheers) was because Kerry Packer (the father of Mariah Carey's ex-fiancee Jamie Packer, and the then-owner and CEO of the Nine Network; which aired the special) watched the show and was so offended of it's content that he infamously called the studio operators and shouted "Get this shit off the air!!". In fact, they announced that it couldn't air the rest of the special due to "technical difficulties", and it was only announced the next day that it was pulled. The day after it's broadcast, Packer berated his staff for airing what he called "Disgusting and offensive shit", and later sacked Mulray and most of the people involved with the show, with Mulray also being "banned for life" from the network (although he did appear on the network a couple of times since 2002, three years before Packer passed away; although only one of his appearances was when Packer was still alive).
Yet, despite Packer not liking the show, and while the network did recieve some calls from viewers complaining about the show, it was actually popular with the viewers, as when it was announced that the show was in fact pulled, they recieved thousands of calls from viewers, with a majority of the callers complaining about the show being pulled. Channel Nine actually rebroadcasted the special in 2008, with commentary from the recently departed TV legend Burt Newton, who when the re-broadcast got to the 'Technical Difficulties' part, referenced the incident by saying "The stated reason was 'technical difficulties' which was accurate... since it is TECHNICALLY very DIFFICULT to keep a show on air...with Mr. Packer on the phone YELLING at you!", before finally airing the rest of the special that didn't air during the original broadcast. The re-broadcast was censored however, as some of the monologues from Mulray were cut as they were deemed to be "no longer acceptable".
In my opinion, Kerry Packer was a dick for personally axing the special while it was still airing, but it was HIS television network at the time, and up until he passed away in 2005, he ultimately made the final decisions about some of the shows on the network. In fact, it was mostly thanks to Packer that one of my favourite TV shows when I was a kid, Stingers, was allowed to remain on-air following it's first season (despite losing in the ratings to Ally McBeal at the time), and would eventually be a modest success, airing until the end of it's eighth season in 2004.
Beware of Dog just sounds like Dog with a Blog and that show got more than 2 episodes
AHAHA YES
You made me remember that! Well done!
Good video, though I'm surprised "You're in The Picture" only made the fourth tier, considering it's one of the best known one-episode only TV shows of all time.
yeah that's totally fair. thanks for watching!
These are great, keep 'em coming Joe
hey thanks, more on the way!
Thumbs up for including Turn On, which I was able to watch in its entirety in the D.C. area as a young teenager. I thought it was great. It featured The Body Politic, a young pulchritudinous woman in a bikini, which I felt had great artistic value. The very first scene was a key turning in a panel (the turn on) and the very last scene was the same key turning off, which was quite ironic. The credits were spaced through the show, instead of just at the end or at the beginning. I remember a joke between two of the (computer administrators, I guess): "I dreamed I was a duck in Eldridge Cleaver's bathtub." "What did you do?" "I MIGRATED man."
i'd love to go and watch it one day, that's history right there
Do you remember the scanimate/animac computer segments?
The Rich List is a great concept. I watched some episodes of the British version (Who Dares Wins) and I liked it. It's well over the bar of "the lowest knowledge you need to call something a quiz show", it has right amount of drama and has an unique, but quite easy gameplay - it's like Family Feud met Wikipedia list of lists.
I thought the concept of The Rich List sounded familiar!
This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God.
Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!
Another couple of shows canceled after only one(or less) episode(s) to add to the list:
Global Frequency. Based on an American comic book limited series created and written by Warren Ellis and published by Wildstorm Productions, an imprint of DC Comics. The plan was to capitalize on the success of the recent DC Comics Arrow. Canceled before the pilot could be aired because the pilot was leaked online, which annoyed Warner Brothers to the extent that they killed the project. To this day though, the pilot is still downloaded via torrents and P2P.
Virtuality. After seeing the scheduled airing time of Virtuality, Michael Taylor called it a "New Orleans funeral", having little hope in Fox picking up the series. Virtuality was filmed as a pilot but aired as a movie when Fox failed to pick up the series. On Friday June 26, 2009 Jessica Blank, wife of actor Erik Jensen who portrayed Dr. Jules Braun, posted a call to action on her husband's Facebook page urging people to watch the movie and write in support of more episodes.
Before I click play, off the top of my head I know "Heil Honey I'm Home!" is gonna be on here
Knew it! Yeah that show was so weird, why Hitler of all people??? 💀
nailed it ✅
I can’t help thinking of all the crews who thought thank God, an income. It’s those people who lose out frequently. Too many of these scam shows and just….really some are…unfortunate in the extreme😂 Well done here!
"A show where a celebrity is faced with completely unscripted improv."
Isn't that just the Eric Andre show?
Here's a tip I received from a fire-eater: If you believe you cannot be hypnotized, you will not be hypnotized.
Love the random clip of the Bee Gees storming off Clive Anderson's talk show in the "Ahora, La Mundial" segment
You missed South of Sunset, which starred Glenn Frey. CBS canceled it after one episode in 1993, though other produced episodes would eventually air on VH1.
Maybe they forgot to put it on the iceberg
I just found your channel Joey, and I loved this episode. I'd heard of some of them (Heil Hitler, the David Hasselhoff one, and the Jackie Gleason one), but the rest were definitely new ones for me. Looking forward to watching the other video when i have a chance as well as your next ones.
hey thanks Ian!
True story... (although I wouldn't blame you if you didn't believe me). In mid 2005, I was part of a Dungeons and Dragons group (
Who's your daddy" wouldn't even be that bad if they didn't film the actual scene of them reuniting.
The still confusing cancellation is "Emily's Reasons Why Not". The pilot ratings were good, and it really wasn't that bad. ABC dumped a ton of money into the show, they should have just let the series run through it's episodes, and it's not as if most shows on network TV were much better than this.
The gay stuff seems bad (and is) to our modern eyes. But damn tv shows around that time relied heavily on gay jokes.
Your channel is excellent, especially the editing!
hey thanks glad you enjoy it!
I remember watching Korgoth when it first aired and being so excited. I thought it was a new series, but after only airing that episode multiple times I got the hint lol.
The creator recently made another show for Hulu (I think) and it’s pretty good tbh.
it's a shame it didn't get more episodes, the animation is bonkers. but i'm glad the creator is still making stuff
@@joeyengelman totally agree. great video btw! made a new fan lol.
I loved Korgoth and was so upset it wasn't picked up!
I don't know how you got into my 8 year mind and answered all the weird questions I had back then and made videos about them, but thanks man!
Glad to see your channel is doing well.
"You couldn't pay me to live in Kansas"
As a life long Kansan, I want to be insulted, but... I get it :c
I was 11 at the time, and I remember _Emily's Reasons Why Not_ being hyped up to the moon - magazine covers, billboards, you name it - and so it lasting just one episode is hilarious to me. ABC put so much blind faith into a show that was dead on arrival.
Hey! Trans PFP! Thats a subscribe!
Hey Joey! You also forgot to mention the quickly-cancelled shows "Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire" and "Megan wants a millionaire", for both of those were quite fraudulent and controversial.
Megan Wants a Millionaire surprisingly made it a few episodes before it was taken off the air, and I cover Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire in my most recent iceberg 🕺
12:06 Fun fact: The Rich List was actually revived in 2007 in the UK as a tie-in to the BBC National Lottery. It was called Who Dares Wins, and was pretty successful all the way up to 2016.
I remember a radio contest of "Guess The Sound"...
And they had this noise that sounded exactly like the footstep sound effect of one of those two legged walking machines in Star Wars Return Of The Jedi.
Kind of a *k-thunk* noise.
Literally hundreds of people texted and phoned in with that answer.
Turns out though... it was the noise of the plastic parts inside the cistern of the staff toilets inside the radio station's building.
The winner of the £10,000 was...
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... the niece of the head of the station.
I'm adopted, just hearing the concept of this show made me ugly cry. No way would i want a reality show to dangle this in my face. I miss my mum so much and i wish i knew who she was
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I know it wasn’t under the same name but are we not gonna count Primal as effectively being Adult Swim picking up Korgoth? Same creator, similar premise, similar art. They’re similar enough that treating Korgoth as the pilot to Primal doesn’t feel outside the realm of how much shows often change from pilot episodes to the rest of their season.