It isn't just the fact that dragon suddenly disintegrates for no reason, it's also the fact that it talks in this Patrick Star-esque goofy voice before flying off and exploding for no reason. The music swelling up like it's a grand and profound event makes it especially hysterical.
@@ironmaster6496I had fun thru Yorknew. I absolutely suffered through the Ants Arc. If you’re not familiar, HxH has a quite lengthy war arc which draws even further on its darker angsty wannabe-philosophical tone that accounts for nearly half of the show’s runtime, boots 2 beloved earlygame protags and 1 antag basically to the curb, the lead Gon treating the loss of someone he’d just met Kite like it’s the end of the world, when he technically is still around somehow, dedicated abnormal amounts of time to developing at least a dozen new characters, some with designs that hurt to look at, and even if HxH gets more episodes that go towards the Dark Continent I don’t care anymore. Ant Arc has damaged my enjoyment of the series that badly. I could have binged High Guardian Spice in that time and laughed at how bad it was but I didn’t know or care.
@@dennisgray2704 If the anime had it then fine, anything would be better than the Ants. I just mean that one particular arc made me want to drop the show, but I stuck with it to what end? Gon does something he set out to from day 1, fair. I’m not sure if there’s more episodes now. The arc with Pariston in an election was the latest miniarc. Huge tonal whiplash going back to city stuff and Zoldyks AFTER that darned megaarc.
Audience: "The cut Rosemary got was fairly minor. Are you sure that it wasn't a toxin killing her?" Me: "Given the friends she keeps, we know that she's immune to toxic damage."
Also, more importantly, diamond is only hard, not tough. Diamond is very resistant to scratching, but it fractures readily compared to steel or concrete.
@@msmaria5039 The writers don't realize that would have worked. Better yet, lasers are used to cut diamonds. Sage's terrasphere acts as a laser many times in the show. She could have just cut them down herself.
@@SunnysFilms Not only that, but doesn't that Terrasphere basically give her nigh-omnipotent power (remember "New Magic can do anything")? Why didn't she just turn them into giant marshmallows or something?
The implications of the healing spring assignment are so much more hilarious when you think about it: the implication is either the main cast were the LAST to get there and do the thing, or it was basically just fake tension to scare the students for no reason. We already have a main character potentially about to die from a gash from a monster attack during the adventure, we didn't need the manufactured drama. At least when Benson threatens to fire Mordecai & Rigby for not doing what he tells them to do, you can tell he bloody well means it. :/
Thyme's question would be far less stupid if she was asking about an inanimate object not something also living or even for a clarification of sickness vs physical damage
Right? Like, asking if the healing spring could be used to reconstitute broken inanimate objects made using organic matter like wood furniture? It'd still sound random for her to ask "Could it be used to fix - or, heal - a mahogany dinner table?", but considering wood is made from trees... Ya know? :3
The question definitely could've been worded better. I'll take it that Thyme realized she wanted to keep her motives secret for whatever reason so she tripped up mid sentence.
Back when she was bitching in the classroom with Slimeboy and Parnell about Thyme and Amarillys, Sage created LITERAL LIFE out of nowhere, but in this episode she couldn't come up with a simple spell to treat a small cut.
There are lots of questions to be asked about the cave of Vinca: why is there a giant’s house buried deep down inside a cavern? Why are there four goblins in that huge estate? Do they live there, or were they hired by the academy to harass students as part of the test? Where’d the goblins get a dragon egg of all things? The diamond golems describe the fountain they guard as “sacred,” yet it isn’t the only healing fountain in the cavern, so why don’t the others have guards? What makes this one so special? And why don’t the girls pause to reflect on the fact that they technically killed that dragon?
To that last question: because the dragon said "I'm okay," so clearly it's okay :) I'm actually joking, but I'm pretty sure that was the writers' intention.
Ah, that makes more sense. I forgot about Indie for a minute. The Grail from FSN grants wishes, and people often want to use it to save something/someone, but it backfires.
I would love if she was an insane villain, but after untold centuries her story got changed so that she was seen as a benevolent god. But that would require interesting and well written stories.
The main thing I would change in this episode is the dragon. I would have the pool of healing water surrounded by skeletons, the bones of those that couldn't make it in time. First off it has a cool yin-yang image of a pool of life being surrounded by death. But more importantly, you could have the dragon skeleton by it. You could include a plot point where the water somehow splashes out and a ton of creatures start coming back to life, most of them evil and trying to hurt the cast. But then the massive dragon comes back to life, and it's actually the one good character trying to save them. Then, when it helps them escape and starts rapidly decomposing, there's a slight emotional blow of the dragon was a friend and now is dying. And then it either blows up in space if you want to keep the cheese, or the teachers are so impressed by a complete and immaculate dragon skeleton (a very rare find) that they immortalize him by putting his skeleton in the library if you want a more serious ending.
7:10 I think what they were really trying to say was that it rapidly accelerates your natural bodily functions, which includes both regenerating, and aging. That’s a really great concept. Unfortunately in classic High guardian spice fashion it’s inconsistent, they never expand on it, and they do a terrible job at portraying the idea in the first place.
I can imagine Harry Potter characters saying “we are just kids, we could die here”, since that is said by one character or another multiple times in the series.
That comment you made at 8:53 about teenagers realizing that they could, in fact, die, is actually portrayed in the Percy Jackson series. In the Sea of Monsters book, Clarisse is the only one who goes on her quest because her prophecy implies that the other people who accompany her will die, so all of her cabin mates refused to go. Plus, Percy does mention occasionally that he isn’t invincible and could actually die. Especially in the latest book, “Chalice of the Gods”.
The fact that these four characters barely seem to share a couple of braincells, this show could have been made to be at least like Konosuba... that is, if the writers could well... write. And sadly, she wasn't wrong about Diamond being an "element" since diamond is pure Carbon, but it would still be considered a material regardless... and would shatter immediately if that massive steel mallet struck the golems in any way.
Personally, the “Gospel or Gauntlet” thing was super infuriating to me. I get that it’s supposed to be “funny” and a chance to get to know the characters more. However, the whole sequence felt like the plot came to a sudden stop just for the characters to play around. Not to mention, it was annoying that the characters weren’t trying to figure a way out. Our brave young heroines decided to accept their fate instead of trying to find a way to escape. Also, really fortunate that they had a dragon egg with them and Parsley waited for a while before revealing that. It might have been a little funny if she told Thyme that she was going to mention it before Thyme was all, “There’s no way out. We’re all gonna die.”
I've heard that this show had a lot of potential from many people and while this is to some extent true, it also kind of isn't. One major problem with this show is that it rarely does anything with what it has. There's no world building, we have new and old magic, guardians, magical creatures and a lot of other things that should shape how the world works, but none of them are really integrated into the world. For example, a lot of jobs should become obsolete with the existence of such a powerful and flexible magic, but this is never even mentioned. The show also doesn't do much with the plot points, both Rose's missing mom and the rot are severely underdeveloped. The "potential" comes from HGS having a lot of plot elements just dumped which you then can make whatever you want off. It's like someone dumped a lot of building material on a site and then just let most of it it sit there while building a shack with a tiny percent of it. Sure, you could in theory build a really nice mansion out of the material, but saying it has the potential to be a great mansion isn't very meaningful. One thing this show is good for though is people picking it apart. I find it more entertaining to watch people dismantle this show than the same happening to most other bad shows.
@@leonishikino6873funny you mention that, because the show's creator, Raye Rodriguez, made a comic years ago where he it showed that he smokes pot, sometimes to get inspiration, but the punchline is that it doesn't give him any ideas. Now, I have nothing against people smoking cannabis, but I just find it funny that not even that could help the creative process
@@pablocasas5906It probably burned his braincells. Cannabis is being shown to be linked with mental conditions, one of which severely reduces the capabilities of the mind.
Alright the healing water just super charging your own natural healing is a nice idea and the dragon shows the logical extreme of that, and a witch? That transmutes potential suitors and basically cannabalizes them, man this show has some dark undertones that it just completely ignores and not in a way that shows how dangerous the world is where such things are considered normal and bland.
Random idea to drastically improve this episode. The map, cave, and spring is a living system designed to challenge the group on an individual level. This groups map said to go North, others didn't. The springs they find are dry to challenge their patience, and see how they cope with not knowing where their end goal leads. They are forced to fight the Parasects because they feel no sense of urgency, and by having one of them poisoned they are forced to get moving and realise not everything in life can be done casually. Them getting stuck in is supposed to be a way to force them to utilise their skills as a group while maintaining composure. It also solves the problem of others needing the water too. A quick rewrite that would fix a lot of things.
Part of me wonders if this show wasn't originally planned to be a slice-of-life school comedy show, but somewhere late in the proceedings someone said that actually the show had to have some kind of serialized, on-going story line and they just tacked the bare bones outline of an over arching story onto what they had already done. This show doesn't have a main plot so much as it has occasional story beats that gesture vaguely in the direction of a plot that never really gets going. I get the impression that whatever is going on with The Rot is supposed to be the main plot; but it gets so little screen time that we really never find out what it is, what's causing it, or what can possibly be done about it. The Rot is apparently ravaging the Faery Woods, but none of the elves at High Guardian Academy except for Thyme seem to be all that concerned about it. They could have said, in this very episode, that the reason that the students need to go into the cave and get the healing water is because the Guardians have been contacted by Thyme's father about The Rot in the Faery Woods and he needs the healing water to see if it will cure The Rot; and it would have successfully given the characters a serious reason why they had to succeed at this task and tied this otherwise seemingly arbitrary fetch quest to the main story.
"Cave of Vinca." Where they store the great artifacts "The Hand and Eye of Vinca" and the lesser known artifacts "The Head of Vinca" and the "Left Testicle of Vinca." This joke is incredibly stupid and I am not ashamed.
8:53 Literature Devil actually did a pretty good video on taking HGS's ideas and characters and kind of reworked it a bit. The basic outline he came up with sounds a hundred times better than what the actual show did.
I think the abridged series is also 100 times better and it was made by students ( high-school or college, I don't remember). Just gone to show how little care was put into the show.
I want to learn more about Vinka/Binka (however it's spelled). She sounds like a genuine horror story. She could have been like this creepy cross between Elizabeth Bathory and Dionysus to tell an awesome horror story.
So, I consider this a nitpick but diamonds are especially hard but not especially durable. They are very hard to scratch but relatively easy to shatter. You can shatter diamond with a hammer, which, funny enough, is pretty much what they show in the show (the golems broke from the high impact of them ramming into each other) but with the characters disagreeing saying only diamond can shatter diamond. However, the show doesn't give any indication that's what the writers were going for so I'm assuming the writers don't understand the concept. That said, though I always love to point it out, I consider lack of specific scientific knowledge a relatively minor flaw in writing and usually give it a pass when watching. -> nitpick =)
@@SweetOrangeGirl Maybe they meant "element" in the magic sense and not the science one? It's not out of the question; if candy can be an element why not diamond? But then they'd have to, you know, actually establish what the other elements in their magic system are.
@@sonicmastersword8080 **Ding** Okay but to actually address your point, candy isn't an element in reality, nor in most fiction (TV Tropes calls weirdo inclusions like candy "Bizarro Elements" for a reason), but in Adventure Time it is. Fairy isn't an element either, not on the periodic table nor in any traditional elemental system, but Pokémon's elemental system isn't very traditional. It's called creativity. Have some. If you're gonna be a smartass, know what you're talking about, or you'll look like a dumbass.
I thought that level 3 situation was that they werent expected to go passed it. He trained them for level 1 and 2 and that was more than enough but they went in far deeper than expected.
@@matthewgillis2617 I wouldn't say they are super common, they aren't like Cubic Zirconia, but I do know their prices are inflated by artificial scarcity.
I can't wait for you to get to the Fall Festival episodes. I do think there's some improvement to the animation (which is noticeable during some events) so I'm curious if you'll mention that. Other than that I'm also excited to see you talk about the so called "villains" of the show.
10:17 The music of Grand Metropolis from Sonic Heroes playing made me smile out of amusement. If I'm not mistaken, the music playing before was from Ape Escape 3.
Diamonds are pure carbon, so yes they indeed are an element. however, diamonds being hard, does not mean they are impossible to break with softer materials, because diamonds are extremely brittle, a single crack could shatter the entire thing.
The blood looking fake may make sense once you realise that this was going to be a kids’ show. But Crunchyroll forced them to add blood, mild swearing, and sex references at the last minute to get a TV-MA rating.
I honestly believe Raye had the right plan going in for this show. But he lost the plot by letting CR pull so much corporate meddling it would make a person’s head spin. Not gonna lie, if Raye pulls a SUDA51 and “Damned Dark Knight’s” HGS for his next work and be passively aggressive to how Crunchyroll handled the show and announces a Remake of HGS on his terms….I would actually be impressed.
This is the kind of title that fits to the note of a single series review. It’s a really simple title that can only bode well for what memorable blunders this snippet has to offer.
I absolutely agree; High Guardian Spice _should_ work. There’s lots of potential here, this could have been a good series. Heck, it could’ve been a GREAT series. It could have justified the expense and even garnered more support. But it stumbled over every. Single. Hurdle. Every damn one. And there is nothing worse than squandering potential.
13:00 Not only that, but doesn't Sage have one of those New Magic crystals that can literally do anything. Couldn't she open a portal to the outside or magically move the rocks...in fact when they were fighting the crystal golems why didn't she just turn them into a pile of big fluffy pillows or something?! 🤨
Because potatoes. That’s the problem with creating a magic system with no boundaries, to the point a beginner could make a potion of eternal life. You need to set limitations or stupid shit like this happens
A wound in the side can be survived fairly easily if it is not deep enough, you have sufficient means of pressurizing it to reduce bloodflow, and you have a means of decreasing circulation to the region of interest.
Was the censored word "suicide"? She wasn't talking about killing herself. She was probably just saying "suicide mission". Not going to lie. That took me out of the moment! 😒 (I'm referring to the moment from 8:36 to 8:37.)
There is a simple reason why the wells are dry-lack of source coupled with evaporation over time leads to the water shifting position to where the highest energy level (most gravitational potential) leads to the lowest energy level (lowest gravitational potential), unless a state of metastasis is found within the route to the aforementioned.
Having the parasect bleed blood is immersion-breaking by itself. These things are INSECTS, they should be bleeding hemolymph, which here can be depicted as a pale yellow substance.
Parsley saying that "I've got a faster way." is like my mom when she says "I know a shortcut." What that actually means is that she doesn't know whether or not there is a shortcut, but she assumes that there is a shortcut. More than once, she has gotten us lost this way, only admitting after we were lost that she didn't actually know a shortcut, but thought that there would be one. She just doesn't get that just because she would like for there to be a shortcut, it doesn't always mean that there will be one. Once, this let to us being late to a New Years party. Another time, she wanted me to crawl under an electrified fence as part of her "shortcut". So now, whenever she says she knows a shortcut, I ask her some variation on "Do you actually know one or are you guessing that there'll be one?"
Rosemary's injury was definitely treated more like a poison sting than a wound, which makes me think that's what it was in the first draft, and they just bumped it up to a big wound to meet their "adult content" mandates... And that healing pool sounds like an overt rest area in a DnD campaign. Some part of me still thinks this might be someone's tabletop roleplaying campaign made into an animation... Also... "I've never kissed anyone! That's how you get tuberculosis." Yeah, _that's_ the reason...
GOOD VIDEO, another test where students can die and the teachers don't care, they even joke about it The protagonists ignore the map because besides MARY SUE they are arrogant and can pass the rules up their asses. It's so stupid how Rosemary is about to die from a simple cut. Sage is a psychopath, she killed a poor newborn dragon without showing any guilt.
This show has many problems one of the primary ones is it uses fantasy and anime tropes in the most generic stock ways. Parsley is a generic dwarf, Rosemary is a generic idiot protagonist, things are in the show because they are standards of the genera. For a show called High Guardian Spice it ironically lacks any kind of flavor to it. Also let's not forget the show's name doesn't make any sense. The main cast are named after Herbs and Flowers. Only Caraway is actually named after a spice! They introduce concepts then never follow up on them, implying either they didn't care or where so deluded they thought this show would get multiple seasons.
The place with the fountain of Vinca is filled with massive furniture. This is the closest inkling we get as to how Giants live in this world, and we only saw them in episode 1. The girls didn't even solve Buckles' riddle, yet he surrendered the dragon egg when they pointed out that he was actually 4 brothers instead of one guy. Makes no sense. Yeah, his jig was up, but they still didn't solve the riddle. "If you win, you'll know the exit. If you lose, you'll be my breakfast. What am I?" That's about as much of a riddle as "What have I got in my pocket?". Unless him dragging out the "I" sound of "What am Iiii" is supposed to hint at multiple "I"s, like multiple people. But I don't think these writers are clever enough for that. Parsley also broke the rules of Gospel or Gauntlet (truth or dare) by directly asking Rosemary for "Gospel" rather than giving her a choice. Parsley says "Careful with the dragon egg. They're fragile." We literally see Buckles use it as a flint to make sparks to start a fire. Thyme opening up about the Rot killing her forest actually was a good moment. One of the few I've seen so far.
"this show is subverting the stereotype that elves are intelligent" it's also subverting the idea that the dour snarky character is intelligent. which would actually have been entertaining to see, a deadpan snarker character who is in fact kind of stupid and oblivious and gets dunked on hard for it. you could even kind of humanize that ...god I wish this show had been a parody of magic school stories/anime, instead of the tepid shit we got
Man! This episode was full of 'WTF?!' moments that I Wish was explained more! This episode really would have had some fun details in the worldbuildind... but NOPE!
This show had such potential - I'm a sucker for magic schools. Makes it so much more painful they didn't do anything good with the concept. Also, hope Cerra feels better soon.
i watched another vid talking about hgs, they mention that the main characters could have just made a teleporter to get out of their situation. instead, they dont as the writers wanted the main cast to get out by riding a dragon out.
Wait.. So the girls spent a lot of the plot sitting next to the healing pond water? Why the hell didn't they use that to heal Rosemary sooner? She still had the gash in her side in that scene. Or did I miss something?
13:03 Um I could be wrong but the water has healing properties, it's not the Fountain of Youth. It's never established (from what you shown us) that the water can reverse the aging process or stop aging all together. Second, here's how I would handle the dragon. Have a dragon be one of the creatures guarding the magic water. The girls learn not only is the dragon unable to leave thanks to magic amulet around his neck but turns to stone when people are in the cave. So when the cave entrance vanishes, they offer to free the dragon from the curse amulet if he agrees to carry them out there through the hole at roof of the cave that the girl's can't reach.
one question i had. why do you see thyme with a vial to put the water but nobody else? why did she have it ahead of time if they didn't know the mission and such.
i assume you are busy with life or you want to work on other things but i also like to imagine that this series caused so much psychic damage that you are staying away from it
Well....I like the designs of the girls....that's all I can muster. Its pretty sad when there are good moments in a bad show but even worse when its not utilized at all.
The diamond thing is still absurd. Hardness is to a fair extent directly proportional to brittleness. You can't cut a diamond, but if you hit it, it will shatter like glass. Let Parsley go at them with her hammer and they should be done in no time.
The first episode has us having to go through a horrendous & pointless travel to get to the school AND THEY HAVE AN OBJECT THAT LETS THEM FLY! And yet Raye complains about the budget, if that's not enough to see it is bad then Idk what to say.
Next episode is going to feature the one, the only, the best character of High Guardian Spice, Amaryllis! -This comment was made by the one the only the best character of High Guardian Spice the great and powerful Amaryllis
@@jbcatz5 And she’s also a character with some of the funniest scenes in the show. It isn’t exactly a high bar for High Guardian Spice, but I still legitimately enjoyed most of Amarylllis’s scenes.
@@monkeyman2022 It is amusing to see her keep losing a VR game she insists is easy because it’s for babies. She’s also the only reason the fight between Rose and Sage is any semblance of entertaining, because of how she wants to see it explode.
@@jbcatz5 If she had been the main character of a different show (still with Snapdragon) that had consistently good writing, I would definitely watch it. Heck, if she was the main character of High Guardian Spice, it would probably improve because she both has actual flaws that the story recognizes that she could potentially overcome and an emotional connection with another character.
It isn't just the fact that dragon suddenly disintegrates for no reason, it's also the fact that it talks in this Patrick Star-esque goofy voice before flying off and exploding for no reason. The music swelling up like it's a grand and profound event makes it especially hysterical.
It's almost like the show was written by round robin.
I thought that was abridged at first
You know it´s bad when a Show where Characters learn to be Adventurers takes half a Season to make them go on an Adventure
It's like if in hunter x hunter Gon took the hunter test....at the end of the show
@@ironmaster6496I had fun thru Yorknew. I absolutely suffered through the Ants Arc. If you’re not familiar, HxH has a quite lengthy war arc which draws even further on its darker angsty wannabe-philosophical tone that accounts for nearly half of the show’s runtime, boots 2 beloved earlygame protags and 1 antag basically to the curb, the lead Gon treating the loss of someone he’d just met Kite like it’s the end of the world, when he technically is still around somehow, dedicated abnormal amounts of time to developing at least a dozen new characters, some with designs that hurt to look at, and even if HxH gets more episodes that go towards the Dark Continent I don’t care anymore. Ant Arc has damaged my enjoyment of the series that badly. I could have binged High Guardian Spice in that time and laughed at how bad it was but I didn’t know or care.
The DC Arc is the absolute best, fk you on about?
@@dennisgray2704 If the anime had it then fine, anything would be better than the Ants. I just mean that one particular arc made me want to drop the show, but I stuck with it to what end? Gon does something he set out to from day 1, fair. I’m not sure if there’s more episodes now. The arc with Pariston in an election was the latest miniarc. Huge tonal whiplash going back to city stuff and Zoldyks AFTER that darned megaarc.
Sounds like Dionysus
The "turned her suitors into wine" bit would be so much better if they also added "and married water."
"Don't you mean she turned water-"
"Nope."
Yeah! She married a river nymph! (insert token gay)
@@BobMcBobJrJust like Sage’s lesbian cousin.
That would have unironically been really funny. XD
i love that people in the comments can make this show SO much better than what the entire hired staff did.
I do not understand the water part of the joke.
I like how Rosemary gets what is the equivalent of a paper cut and she has a near-death experience
Do the show say anything about venom, like the attack poisoned her? Or is it just a scratch?
@@bethanymcmurtrey9542That one giant green crab is seen scratching her with its claw. The show doesn't draw attention to the moment when she gets cut
Also sage wants to be a healer. Doesn't she know the old magic spell: stoppo the bleedio?
@@QueenAleenaFan If they did that, then the episode wouldn't have enough filler in it
@@QueenAleenaFan Remember Sage is an idiot
Audience: "The cut Rosemary got was fairly minor. Are you sure that it wasn't a toxin killing her?"
Me: "Given the friends she keeps, we know that she's immune to toxic damage."
Also, more importantly, diamond is only hard, not tough. Diamond is very resistant to scratching, but it fractures readily compared to steel or concrete.
Yep, it takes a lot of force to get it out of shape, but once that force is achieved it snaps rather than bends.
That’s why hammers are useful in smashing diamonds.
Was hammers used to smash the diamond golem?
@@msmaria5039 The writers don't realize that would have worked. Better yet, lasers are used to cut diamonds. Sage's terrasphere acts as a laser many times in the show. She could have just cut them down herself.
@@SunnysFilms Not only that, but doesn't that Terrasphere basically give her nigh-omnipotent power (remember "New Magic can do anything")? Why didn't she just turn them into giant marshmallows or something?
The implications of the healing spring assignment are so much more hilarious when you think about it: the implication is either the main cast were the LAST to get there and do the thing, or it was basically just fake tension to scare the students for no reason. We already have a main character potentially about to die from a gash from a monster attack during the adventure, we didn't need the manufactured drama. At least when Benson threatens to fire Mordecai & Rigby for not doing what he tells them to do, you can tell he bloody well means it. :/
Thyme's question would be far less stupid if she was asking about an inanimate object not something also living or even for a clarification of sickness vs physical damage
Right? Like, asking if the healing spring could be used to reconstitute broken inanimate objects made using organic matter like wood furniture? It'd still sound random for her to ask "Could it be used to fix - or, heal - a mahogany dinner table?", but considering wood is made from trees... Ya know? :3
The question definitely could've been worded better. I'll take it that Thyme realized she wanted to keep her motives secret for whatever reason so she tripped up mid sentence.
She could've just asked if the healing water could heal the rot.
Why bother keeping that a secret from your allies?
Back when she was bitching in the classroom with Slimeboy and Parnell about Thyme and Amarillys, Sage created LITERAL LIFE out of nowhere, but in this episode she couldn't come up with a simple spell to treat a small cut.
Being a JRPG player Sage would have made more sense as a Black Mage.
There are lots of questions to be asked about the cave of Vinca: why is there a giant’s house buried deep down inside a cavern? Why are there four goblins in that huge estate? Do they live there, or were they hired by the academy to harass students as part of the test? Where’d the goblins get a dragon egg of all things? The diamond golems describe the fountain they guard as “sacred,” yet it isn’t the only healing fountain in the cavern, so why don’t the others have guards? What makes this one so special? And why don’t the girls pause to reflect on the fact that they technically killed that dragon?
To that last question: because the dragon said "I'm okay," so clearly it's okay :)
I'm actually joking, but I'm pretty sure that was the writers' intention.
Did the house belong to the diamond golems?
Only the power of the Holy Grail can save your show now, Doctor.
Fate/Stay Night's Holy Grail? That thing is a Monkey's Paw.
@@BladeCrossEXE The grail from "The Last Crusade". You fill it with water, and the grail grants the water healing properties
Ah, that makes more sense. I forgot about Indie for a minute. The Grail from FSN grants wishes, and people often want to use it to save something/someone, but it backfires.
@@Hack_Man_VIIThe was Jesus' blood, not water.
@@sonicmastersword8080 Indy filled it with Water in the movie. It's not like he could just dig up the corpse and get blood from it.
If poison is the main threat to Rosemary, then they should be carrying her! Bloodflow is her biggest risk.
I hate to suggest it since it is a dated practice with questionable success, but given the setting they could opt for the suck the venom out by mouth.
Vinca sounds like either an absolute badass, or entirely clinically insane. Either way, I want to know about her
Given the nature of this show they probably would have tried for badass, but end up with insanity. 😅
I'm like 90% sure it's word play on Vecna, the famous lich and God of secrets from dnd
@@samulady4638 not to mention Stranger Things! 🙃
I would love if she was an insane villain, but after untold centuries her story got changed so that she was seen as a benevolent god. But that would require interesting and well written stories.
@@titangirl161 Oh, Stranger Things actually also took the name from dnd. They name all the creatures after dnd monsters
The main thing I would change in this episode is the dragon. I would have the pool of healing water surrounded by skeletons, the bones of those that couldn't make it in time. First off it has a cool yin-yang image of a pool of life being surrounded by death. But more importantly, you could have the dragon skeleton by it. You could include a plot point where the water somehow splashes out and a ton of creatures start coming back to life, most of them evil and trying to hurt the cast. But then the massive dragon comes back to life, and it's actually the one good character trying to save them. Then, when it helps them escape and starts rapidly decomposing, there's a slight emotional blow of the dragon was a friend and now is dying. And then it either blows up in space if you want to keep the cheese, or the teachers are so impressed by a complete and immaculate dragon skeleton (a very rare find) that they immortalize him by putting his skeleton in the library if you want a more serious ending.
Congrats. You put more thought into this than the actual writers of the show.😊👏
7:10 I think what they were really trying to say was that it rapidly accelerates your natural bodily functions, which includes both regenerating, and aging. That’s a really great concept. Unfortunately in classic High guardian spice fashion it’s inconsistent, they never expand on it, and they do a terrible job at portraying the idea in the first place.
That question about the healing water is the equivalent of "people die when they get killed".
I can imagine Harry Potter characters saying “we are just kids, we could die here”, since that is said by one character or another multiple times in the series.
Usually Hermione.
That comment you made at 8:53 about teenagers realizing that they could, in fact, die, is actually portrayed in the Percy Jackson series. In the Sea of Monsters book, Clarisse is the only one who goes on her quest because her prophecy implies that the other people who accompany her will die, so all of her cabin mates refused to go. Plus, Percy does mention occasionally that he isn’t invincible and could actually die. Especially in the latest book, “Chalice of the Gods”.
8:34 (“suicide mission” in case you’re curious)
The fact that these four characters barely seem to share a couple of braincells, this show could have been made to be at least like Konosuba... that is, if the writers could well... write.
And sadly, she wasn't wrong about Diamond being an "element" since diamond is pure Carbon, but it would still be considered a material regardless... and would shatter immediately if that massive steel mallet struck the golems in any way.
Personally, the “Gospel or Gauntlet” thing was super infuriating to me. I get that it’s supposed to be “funny” and a chance to get to know the characters more. However, the whole sequence felt like the plot came to a sudden stop just for the characters to play around. Not to mention, it was annoying that the characters weren’t trying to figure a way out. Our brave young heroines decided to accept their fate instead of trying to find a way to escape. Also, really fortunate that they had a dragon egg with them and Parsley waited for a while before revealing that. It might have been a little funny if she told Thyme that she was going to mention it before Thyme was all, “There’s no way out. We’re all gonna die.”
I've heard that this show had a lot of potential from many people and while this is to some extent true, it also kind of isn't. One major problem with this show is that it rarely does anything with what it has. There's no world building, we have new and old magic, guardians, magical creatures and a lot of other things that should shape how the world works, but none of them are really integrated into the world. For example, a lot of jobs should become obsolete with the existence of such a powerful and flexible magic, but this is never even mentioned. The show also doesn't do much with the plot points, both Rose's missing mom and the rot are severely underdeveloped. The "potential" comes from HGS having a lot of plot elements just dumped which you then can make whatever you want off.
It's like someone dumped a lot of building material on a site and then just let most of it it sit there while building a shack with a tiny percent of it. Sure, you could in theory build a really nice mansion out of the material, but saying it has the potential to be a great mansion isn't very meaningful.
One thing this show is good for though is people picking it apart. I find it more entertaining to watch people dismantle this show than the same happening to most other bad shows.
It really would be as simple as getting some clever writers and animators and just rewriting everything, but keeping the setting itself intact.
Still waiting for Enter to get to Snapdragon's full character arc because that is a can of worms that should get its own video entirely!
What were the writers smoking
@@leonishikino6873funny you mention that, because the show's creator, Raye Rodriguez, made a comic years ago where he it showed that he smokes pot, sometimes to get inspiration, but the punchline is that it doesn't give him any ideas. Now, I have nothing against people smoking cannabis, but I just find it funny that not even that could help the creative process
@@leonishikino6873Probably spices cuz they apparently can't differentiate that from herbs
@@pablocasas5906It probably burned his braincells. Cannabis is being shown to be linked with mental conditions, one of which severely reduces the capabilities of the mind.
Oh, I'm winding up one for that. Because that's some shit that hits me where I live.
Fun fact, Parsley's hammer could actually shatter diamond. Although it's super dense, that's what makes them so brittle.
Is it just me, or do you also find her voice acting absolutely insufferable?
If this were in the hands of competent writers this would be a good show.
Alright the healing water just super charging your own natural healing is a nice idea and the dragon shows the logical extreme of that, and a witch? That transmutes potential suitors and basically cannabalizes them, man this show has some dark undertones that it just completely ignores and not in a way that shows how dangerous the world is where such things are considered normal and bland.
Random idea to drastically improve this episode.
The map, cave, and spring is a living system designed to challenge the group on an individual level. This groups map said to go North, others didn't. The springs they find are dry to challenge their patience, and see how they cope with not knowing where their end goal leads. They are forced to fight the Parasects because they feel no sense of urgency, and by having one of them poisoned they are forced to get moving and realise not everything in life can be done casually. Them getting stuck in is supposed to be a way to force them to utilise their skills as a group while maintaining composure.
It also solves the problem of others needing the water too.
A quick rewrite that would fix a lot of things.
Part of me wonders if this show wasn't originally planned to be a slice-of-life school comedy show, but somewhere late in the proceedings someone said that actually the show had to have some kind of serialized, on-going story line and they just tacked the bare bones outline of an over arching story onto what they had already done. This show doesn't have a main plot so much as it has occasional story beats that gesture vaguely in the direction of a plot that never really gets going. I get the impression that whatever is going on with The Rot is supposed to be the main plot; but it gets so little screen time that we really never find out what it is, what's causing it, or what can possibly be done about it. The Rot is apparently ravaging the Faery Woods, but none of the elves at High Guardian Academy except for Thyme seem to be all that concerned about it. They could have said, in this very episode, that the reason that the students need to go into the cave and get the healing water is because the Guardians have been contacted by Thyme's father about The Rot in the Faery Woods and he needs the healing water to see if it will cure The Rot; and it would have successfully given the characters a serious reason why they had to succeed at this task and tied this otherwise seemingly arbitrary fetch quest to the main story.
"Cave of Vinca."
Where they store the great artifacts "The Hand and Eye of Vinca" and the lesser known artifacts "The Head of Vinca" and the "Left Testicle of Vinca."
This joke is incredibly stupid and I am not ashamed.
Left testi--? But Vinca was a woman
@@grantmortensonvaHey if she can turn her suitors into wine, having a testicle isn't to far fetched
Is this a reference to something?
@@ntfoperative9432 Vecna from Forgotten Realms. It's a lazy reference, but it checks out.
@@grantmortensonva Are you suggesting that women can't have testicles?
*Shame on you.*
8:53 Literature Devil actually did a pretty good video on taking HGS's ideas and characters and kind of reworked it a bit. The basic outline he came up with sounds a hundred times better than what the actual show did.
Only a hundred times? What is he, the illiterature devil?
@@zeddy5085 kek
I think the abridged series is also 100 times better and it was made by students ( high-school or college, I don't remember). Just gone to show how little care was put into the show.
Oh boy, I can't wait to see you rip into the insane tonal issues! 💀
I want to learn more about Vinka/Binka (however it's spelled).
She sounds like a genuine horror story. She could have been like this creepy cross between Elizabeth Bathory and Dionysus to tell an awesome horror story.
So, I consider this a nitpick but diamonds are especially hard but not especially durable. They are very hard to scratch but relatively easy to shatter. You can shatter diamond with a hammer, which, funny enough, is pretty much what they show in the show (the golems broke from the high impact of them ramming into each other) but with the characters disagreeing saying only diamond can shatter diamond. However, the show doesn't give any indication that's what the writers were going for so I'm assuming the writers don't understand the concept.
That said, though I always love to point it out, I consider lack of specific scientific knowledge a relatively minor flaw in writing and usually give it a pass when watching. -> nitpick =)
And also, diamonds aren’t elements. But the element used to make them is carbon.
@@SweetOrangeGirl
Maybe they meant "element" in the magic sense and not the science one? It's not out of the question; if candy can be an element why not diamond? But then they'd have to, you know, actually establish what the other elements in their magic system are.
@@Luigicat11An element by definition is the most base form an object can take without losing its fundamental identity. Candy is NOT an element.
@@sonicmastersword8080
**Ding**
Okay but to actually address your point, candy isn't an element in reality, nor in most fiction (TV Tropes calls weirdo inclusions like candy "Bizarro Elements" for a reason), but in Adventure Time it is. Fairy isn't an element either, not on the periodic table nor in any traditional elemental system, but Pokémon's elemental system isn't very traditional. It's called creativity. Have some. If you're gonna be a smartass, know what you're talking about, or you'll look like a dumbass.
I thought that level 3 situation was that they werent expected to go passed it. He trained them for level 1 and 2 and that was more than enough but they went in far deeper than expected.
Mysterious Mr Enter rocks
Why didn't any of the girls think to loot those diamond golems? Are diamonds completely worthless in this universe?
Actually, diamonds are almost useless in this universe, as they're super common, yet they make us pay hundreds of thousands for a simple wedding ring
@@matthewgillis2617 I wouldn't say they are super common, they aren't like Cubic Zirconia, but I do know their prices are inflated by artificial scarcity.
I like the crowd concept in early Rwby where they had shapes and clear outlines, but there was still some effort put into the models.
I can't wait for you to get to the Fall Festival episodes. I do think there's some improvement to the animation (which is noticeable during some events) so I'm curious if you'll mention that.
Other than that I'm also excited to see you talk about the so called "villains" of the show.
10:17 The music of Grand Metropolis from Sonic Heroes playing made me smile out of amusement. If I'm not mistaken, the music playing before was from Ape Escape 3.
Diamonds are pure carbon, so yes they indeed are an element. however, diamonds being hard, does not mean they are impossible to break with softer materials, because diamonds are extremely brittle, a single crack could shatter the entire thing.
He's not talking about chemistry here: diamond just isn't an element in usual magic systems like fire, water, wind...
So is graphite-pure carbon. Only strong as graphene-strongest material known to man, but near impossible to manufacture.
No!?
It's a compound
1:50 the ad placement here is hilarious
I always thought the dragon's voice "bye take care" was a parody but it was to my surprise a legit line on this show...
The blood looking fake may make sense once you realise that this was going to be a kids’ show.
But Crunchyroll forced them to add blood, mild swearing, and sex references at the last minute to get a TV-MA rating.
I honestly believe Raye had the right plan going in for this show. But he lost the plot by letting CR pull so much corporate meddling it would make a person’s head spin.
Not gonna lie, if Raye pulls a SUDA51 and “Damned Dark Knight’s” HGS for his next work and be passively aggressive to how Crunchyroll handled the show and announces a Remake of HGS on his terms….I would actually be impressed.
Sage: I don’t kiss, that’s how you get tuberkulose
Me: *cracks up laughing because that line broke me* tf does that mean
In a world where you can literally make a potion of eternal life, HOW IS TUBERCULOSIS STILL A THING?!
@@ntfoperative9432 I’ll reveal how…with bad writing lol
This is the kind of title that fits to the note of a single series review.
It’s a really simple title that can only bode well for what memorable blunders this snippet has to offer.
These moments of pure unadulterated brain-fart like the dragon scene are easily the best thing this show has going for.
One would think that the teachers would check the well before this test if it was so important to have a FUCKING PARADE
I absolutely agree; High Guardian Spice _should_ work. There’s lots of potential here, this could have been a good series. Heck, it could’ve been a GREAT series. It could have justified the expense and even garnered more support.
But it stumbled over every. Single. Hurdle. Every damn one. And there is nothing worse than squandering potential.
13:00 Not only that, but doesn't Sage have one of those New Magic crystals that can literally do anything. Couldn't she open a portal to the outside or magically move the rocks...in fact when they were fighting the crystal golems why didn't she just turn them into a pile of big fluffy pillows or something?! 🤨
Because potatoes. That’s the problem with creating a magic system with no boundaries, to the point a beginner could make a potion of eternal life. You need to set limitations or stupid shit like this happens
How this show butchered dragons is unforgivable
Dragon: I'm okay 😊 *flies and dies*
A wound in the side can be survived fairly easily if it is not deep enough, you have sufficient means of pressurizing it to reduce bloodflow, and you have a means of decreasing circulation to the region of interest.
8:22-8:48
You know... Craig from South Park tried this. Thr problem is no matter how far you walk away, you always circle back.
"I'm shooting lasers out of my eyes..."
Was the censored word "suicide"? She wasn't talking about killing herself. She was probably just saying "suicide mission". Not going to lie. That took me out of the moment! 😒
(I'm referring to the moment from 8:36 to 8:37.)
Yes; blame the UA-cam content sanitization bots for Mr. Enter having to censor that
@@ManaphyandManaquaWait, really? That word has been utilized tons in Western media, even in some younger audience programs.
There is a simple reason why the wells are dry-lack of source coupled with evaporation over time leads to the water shifting position to where the highest energy level (most gravitational potential) leads to the lowest energy level (lowest gravitational potential), unless a state of metastasis is found within the route to the aforementioned.
Hope Cerra makes a speedy recovery
Having the parasect bleed blood is immersion-breaking by itself. These things are INSECTS, they should be bleeding hemolymph, which here can be depicted as a pale yellow substance.
Damn, I’m having a blast just watching John show me what bizarre shit will happen next with this show
This review series is entertaining honestly
Parsley saying that "I've got a faster way." is like my mom when she says "I know a shortcut." What that actually means is that she doesn't know whether or not there is a shortcut, but she assumes that there is a shortcut. More than once, she has gotten us lost this way, only admitting after we were lost that she didn't actually know a shortcut, but thought that there would be one. She just doesn't get that just because she would like for there to be a shortcut, it doesn't always mean that there will be one. Once, this let to us being late to a New Years party. Another time, she wanted me to crawl under an electrified fence as part of her "shortcut". So now, whenever she says she knows a shortcut, I ask her some variation on "Do you actually know one or are you guessing that there'll be one?"
Rosemary's injury was definitely treated more like a poison sting than a wound, which makes me think that's what it was in the first draft, and they just bumped it up to a big wound to meet their "adult content" mandates... And that healing pool sounds like an overt rest area in a DnD campaign. Some part of me still thinks this might be someone's tabletop roleplaying campaign made into an animation...
Also... "I've never kissed anyone! That's how you get tuberculosis."
Yeah, _that's_ the reason...
Keep up the great content dude
Get well soon, Cerra!
GOOD VIDEO, another test where students can die and the teachers don't care, they even joke about it
The protagonists ignore the map because besides MARY SUE they are arrogant and can pass the rules up their asses.
It's so stupid how Rosemary is about to die from a simple cut.
Sage is a psychopath, she killed a poor newborn dragon without showing any guilt.
Ya wanna know what advertisement I just got? A Crunchyroll ad!
This show has many problems one of the primary ones is it uses fantasy and anime tropes in the most generic stock ways. Parsley is a generic dwarf, Rosemary is a generic idiot protagonist, things are in the show because they are standards of the genera. For a show called High Guardian Spice it ironically lacks any kind of flavor to it. Also let's not forget the show's name doesn't make any sense. The main cast are named after Herbs and Flowers. Only Caraway is actually named after a spice! They introduce concepts then never follow up on them, implying either they didn't care or where so deluded they thought this show would get multiple seasons.
The place with the fountain of Vinca is filled with massive furniture. This is the closest inkling we get as to how Giants live in this world, and we only saw them in episode 1.
The girls didn't even solve Buckles' riddle, yet he surrendered the dragon egg when they pointed out that he was actually 4 brothers instead of one guy. Makes no sense. Yeah, his jig was up, but they still didn't solve the riddle.
"If you win, you'll know the exit. If you lose, you'll be my breakfast. What am I?" That's about as much of a riddle as "What have I got in my pocket?". Unless him dragging out the "I" sound of "What am Iiii" is supposed to hint at multiple "I"s, like multiple people. But I don't think these writers are clever enough for that.
Parsley also broke the rules of Gospel or Gauntlet (truth or dare) by directly asking Rosemary for "Gospel" rather than giving her a choice.
Parsley says "Careful with the dragon egg. They're fragile." We literally see Buckles use it as a flint to make sparks to start a fire.
Thyme opening up about the Rot killing her forest actually was a good moment. One of the few I've seen so far.
Thyme...come closer...closer...a little more...
YES, IT CAN HEAL A TREE!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK?!?
Diamonds are brittle, you don't actually need another diamond to break a diamond. Bending them is the thing that's impossible.
This episode could be referrenced/repurposed for a horror show.
Even though it has an REALLY DECENT Animation Style!
Can we all agree with the title?
I think it’s a universal point that most people with a brain would agree with.
"this show is subverting the stereotype that elves are intelligent" it's also subverting the idea that the dour snarky character is intelligent. which would actually have been entertaining to see, a deadpan snarker character who is in fact kind of stupid and oblivious and gets dunked on hard for it. you could even kind of humanize that
...god I wish this show had been a parody of magic school stories/anime, instead of the tepid shit we got
Oh boy here we go again!
13:41 smh Arthur Morgan
If not for the title card I would have thought it was called the "Cave of Inca"
So Zinia(or however you spell her name) is supposed to be the Kobeni of this show?(CSM could not have come out sooner with shows like this….)
What does YT have against the word suicide?
tO kEeP dA cOmMuNiTy SaFe
Apparently acknowledging it exists
The company's run by soccer moms.
The only time it should be concerned is when there are videos ADVOCATING FOR IT.
7:28 You do realize the theme used for the Dragon exploding into stars was a poorly edited version of "To The Stars" from Dragonheart, yes?
“Is that how stars are made?”
Man! This episode was full of 'WTF?!' moments that I Wish was explained more! This episode really would have had some fun details in the worldbuildind... but NOPE!
When are you reviewing the final 5 episodes?
This show had such potential - I'm a sucker for magic schools. Makes it so much more painful they didn't do anything good with the concept.
Also, hope Cerra feels better soon.
half guardian spice is what would happen if tumblr was a series
i watched another vid talking about hgs, they mention that the main characters could have just made a teleporter to get out of their situation. instead, they dont as the writers wanted the main cast to get out by riding a dragon out.
Wait.. So the girls spent a lot of the plot sitting next to the healing pond water? Why the hell didn't they use that to heal Rosemary sooner? She still had the gash in her side in that scene. Or did I miss something?
13:03 Um I could be wrong but the water has healing properties, it's not the Fountain of Youth. It's never established (from what you shown us) that the water can reverse the aging process or stop aging all together.
Second, here's how I would handle the dragon. Have a dragon be one of the creatures guarding the magic water. The girls learn not only is the dragon unable to leave thanks to magic amulet around his neck but turns to stone when people are in the cave. So when the cave entrance vanishes, they offer to free the dragon from the curse amulet if he agrees to carry them out there through the hole at roof of the cave that the girl's can't reach.
is that cheese dreams in the outro
one question i had. why do you see thyme with a vial to put the water but nobody else? why did she have it ahead of time if they didn't know the mission and such.
i assume you are busy with life or you want to work on other things but i also like to imagine that this series caused so much psychic damage that you are staying away from it
Well....I like the designs of the girls....that's all I can muster. Its pretty sad when there are good moments in a bad show but even worse when its not utilized at all.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Thyme the black elf is the new Kirk from Star Trek.
Was some audio cut off from the beginning?
The diamond thing is still absurd. Hardness is to a fair extent directly proportional to brittleness. You can't cut a diamond, but if you hit it, it will shatter like glass. Let Parsley go at them with her hammer and they should be done in no time.
10:18 is that instrumental from Sonic Heroes?
It's Grand Metropolis
The first episode has us having to go through a horrendous & pointless travel to get to the school AND THEY HAVE AN OBJECT THAT LETS THEM FLY! And yet Raye complains about the budget, if that's not enough to see it is bad then Idk what to say.
So, does this make it to the 20's list, at least so far?
Could you do some other shows?
Oh boy
8:22 is that amy from sonic boom?
Yes.
I learned that if a show starts off as shit it stays shit. Hoping for a good ep from this show is like hoping peace in the middle east
Next episode is going to feature the one, the only, the best character of High Guardian Spice, Amaryllis!
-This comment was made by the one the only the best character of High Guardian Spice the great and powerful Amaryllis
She has a genuinely sympathetic angle because she looks out for Snapdragon after Snap has a crisis of gender identity.
@@jbcatz5 And she’s also a character with some of the funniest scenes in the show. It isn’t exactly a high bar for High Guardian Spice, but I still legitimately enjoyed most of Amarylllis’s scenes.
@@monkeyman2022 It is amusing to see her keep losing a VR game she insists is easy because it’s for babies. She’s also the only reason the fight between Rose and Sage is any semblance of entertaining, because of how she wants to see it explode.
@@jbcatz5 If she had been the main character of a different show (still with Snapdragon) that had consistently good writing, I would definitely watch it. Heck, if she was the main character of High Guardian Spice, it would probably improve because she both has actual flaws that the story recognizes that she could potentially overcome and an emotional connection with another character.
@@monkeyman2022 Her concern for Snapdragon alone makes her the most sympathetic person in the Festival of Fall two parter.