Immigration, Islam and European Society | Niall Ferguson
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2023
- In this clip Niall discusses the impact of Islam and immigration on the West.
Niall Ferguson, MA, D.Phil., is the Milbank Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and a senior fellow of the Centre for European Studies, Harvard, where he served for twelve years as the Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History.
He is the author of fifteen books, most recently The Square and the Tower. His previous book, Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist, won the Council on Foreign Relations Arthur Ross Prize. He is also an award-winning filmmaker, having won an international Emmy for his PBS series The Ascent of Money.
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Recent migrants do not consider the new country as home, they identify as their motherland. My family migrated to Australia in 1984, we embraced Australia as our home, we speak English at home, we are now a multi-culture family, I am Australian. I see around me migrants that live in their bubble only speaking English when they have too as they live in suburbs that cater to their nationality and religion, can attend schools in their religious beliefs. In Australia we are too accomodating that we forget we are a Christian society and need to also demand respect for our beliefs.
The same applies to Canada. It is troubling that in the fifty years I have lived here our society has become more divided on basis of race, culture, religion with people grieving about systemic racism and the like and not adapting or assimilating.
It is not the place it it the Koran that they are eternally wedded to.
You’re not a Christian society 😂 that’s laughable
I see that In Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Dowha. Europeans who have been living and working there for decades and the only word in arabic they know is Salam alikum.
Good, and without them the Arabs would be in tents and using camels.@@Cellem17
You can't integrate a foreign totalitarian religion.
And not all immigration is equal. Pakistani immigration is a net drag on the economy, as is immigration from Somalia. IIRC, the only non Western immigration that is not a net drag on the economy is Israel, India, Ukraine, Russia, East Asian (China et al)
You are RIGHT MY FRIEND!!!
Eh, I would argue that while Chinese migrants are generally hard working, they should not be welcomed in significant numbers. They are just as prone to creating their own parallel societies as muslims. In just 30 years, for example, Chinese and Indian immigrants completely took over Canadian cities, such as Vancouver. In 30 years they went from 2% of the population to 40%, and today in some regions you can only see chinese signs on the streets.
America & Europe should stop destabilizing the countries of the immigrants ,Everyone knows the methodology of the foreign policy of America and the EU in the geopolitical exploitation of countries of the immigrants ,It is hypocrisy not to address what impoverishes a rich countries with all its resources and entrusts its people to walk in dangers and migrate to get some safety and money to the country where resources reach faster and more security than immigrants.
I mean first, I am glad you learned about Islam from a TV news and UA-cam videos who learned from another UA-cam video shows how detailed your are before criticizing (my advice take it or leave it pick a translation of the Quran that has explanations of it and read it fully once and then make up your mind)
Regarding immigration yeah that is your choice and your country you can do what you want and invite who you want I will never complain (I really think if your country family was having more babies they wouldn't have been in this situation)
read the Q and you become a M; understand the Q and you leave I@@GamesLibrary-nl4dh
Could Islam be the problem ?
You might be on to something😆
ISLAM is the BIGGEST PROBLEM that the World is CURRENTLY FACING!!!
Islam is the solution that will save u from Zionists goyim
Islam, centuries of inbreeding, bad genetics, a culture of barbaric mind viruses.
YES
Has it not become the case that they ‘integrate’ into all our systems and then we’re forced to ‘assimilate’ to them?
Yeah, well there is no integration in muslim countries. In the countries they take over, for example Serbia, Lebanon, etc., you either take up the religion or die.
It is absurd that intellectual infants are unable to recognize this core fact about islam. They are no better than cannibals.
Absolutely correct 👍
This mistake was made mostly by leftist community workers and social assistants that proudly told immigrants that they didn't have to change their culture and that their own culture was as valid as ours. Tell that to highly conservative people from Anatolian backwaters and be surprised you have killings for the "honour of the family" some time after. There was already then (1980) a great deal of virtue signalling in it: we're such a tolerant society and I am such a compassionate person.
It took little time for the immigrants to think out that not only their culture was as valid as ours; it was even much more valid! It was superior! So why integrate? On the contrary, it was their duty to bring us into THEIR superior culture!
This was al said long before Ayaan did. Nevertheless great RESPECT and greetings to her from Holland.
Wh(ere I work, there are full time interpreters for 72 different languages. Some of them cost 25 euros per minute)
When he was saying “failure to integrate” I was reminded of the Australian saying “whinging Pom”, describing the attitude of an English immigrant who is dissatisfied when Australia turns out to be not identical to England. How much worse when immigrants come from cultures with far less in common, and now, no expectation to integrate with the existing culture?
Out of the few million Brits that over the years who have stayed and made Australia home, and have assimilated well into Aussie culture, you speak of one you knew who couldn't hack the place. Was there more to his story such as home sickness, couldn't stand the heat, not adapting to the okker way of havin' a yarn? The number of instances I've heard all my life is 3. So between you and me, that makes it 4 out of a few million. What about other nationalities? Have you ever heard of people going back?
@@YouChwb I wasn't speaking of anyone I knew, but I have seen the phenomenon in Brits coming to aus. But anyhow, my point was not about that. It was to say that if a "failure to integrate" can be a problem in an almost identical culture, its bound to be worse with other cultures.
The British parents might whinge but their offspring will be as assimilated as any other anglo-Australian.
A recent docudrama about the Ten Pound Poms showed them having their passports taken away so they were unable to go back home for two years and were housed in corrugated iron 'sheds' (imagine that in the Aussie heat!). They were there to fill vacancies where there was a shortage, i.e. unpopular jobs. Compare this to today's 'migrants' to the UK who are treated better than our native population.
The alarming feature of a cultural revolution is the speed with which it overwhelms the past and the savage intolerance for the opinions and customs which it has replaced.(Peter Hitchens 1999, The Abolition of Britain)
This man speaks of "implicit contracts" and integration being a 2 way street. I dont think for a single moment your average parallel society immigrant gives a single lump of faeces about this "contract" he speaks of.
Where is the stick when the carrot of the contract fails Ferguson? What manner should the stick take when we find these great many contract breakers within our borders?
What are you blabbering on about? Try to stay coherent.
The enforcement mechanisms used to be cultural, namely discrimination. If you didn’t try to fit in you wouldn’t get very far, but its utility has been abandoned in the name of multiculturalism and it’s more virulent variant DEI.
No. Hyper Immigration is the problem. It is impossible to assimilate such vast numbers in such a short period of time, even if there was the political will to do so. For too many, moving to a country to improve their lives is solely about a financial consideration. For perhaps the vast majority, it has little to nothing to do with wishing to live in compliance with that new nations culture.
Even if it was possible to assimilate them, why would you try to assimilate, for example, your average pakistani guy who has an IQ of 80, tops (rendering him unable to even excel at a fast food job)? Hundreds of years of inbreeding (over 66% of pakistani kids are born to blood related parents, generally first cousins or uncles) have a toll on genetics.
@@txdmsk I suspect your IQ figures are in error. I would have a care. Our youtube overlords do not give the benefit of the doubt, they just take your account away. I think that no country should have so many immigrants from a single country that the register as more than a couple of percent of the population. I would leave it there.
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Well, I was being generous with Pakistan and 80. Most of these areas have a much lower avg IQ than 80, but 80 is already a score where one can not accomplish the daily goals of a fast food chain worker.
I eat street food fairly frequently. In kebab / gyros places I meet a lot of these people, and they give me a wrong order half the time. There are perhaps 3 parameters regarding a gyros
-Rice or fries
-Chili sauce or no
-Cabbage or no
And when I buy one default meal and one default meal without hot sauce for my wife, I get the wrong order in maybe half the time. It's mind-boggling.
@@williamvorkosigan5151
Oh and yea, I got a warning from youtube yesterday for saying something similar. I think this was my 3rd warning recently, so the next words might very well be my last. Fun times. I'm sure that after banning all of us, the low IQ immigrants will successfully support youtube!
@@txdmsk I seem to see that the average in Pakistan is 81. Either way, I wouldn't be talking about IQ on youtube if you want to keep your account. Saying true things on UA-cam can get you banned.
I’m a white European guy who, years ago, used to protest against Islam and complain about immigration.
All of my hate for Islam led me to search more and more about it so I could criticize it with certainty.
The result of that is that, today, it has been three months since I took my Shahada and became a Muslim.
My life has never been better than it is today, and I pray that Allah will open the eyes of every European to the truth.
Mashallah, Europe will become Muslim and that is something to be celebrated, not feared.
Alhamdulillah! ☝🏻
It depends on the kind of immigration. Example: If 100,000 Norwegians immigrated to Germany or Sweden then they would integrate and assimilate much easier and more successfully. Why? Because they all share a very similar culture, heritage, religion, language and ethnicity. Bring in 100,000 Arabs, Africans and Turks etc into Germany, Sweden or Norway etc, then the majority of them do not integrate and assimilate very easily because of their vastly different cultures, religions and ethnicity. It's not rocket science. It would be like if a 100,000 Norwegians immigrated to Saudi Arabia or Iran. I bet most Norwegians, even after two or three generations still would not really integrate or assimilate and would likely form their own "Norwegian community."
The no of niqabs and purity shirts I see daily in the UK has increased 20 fold in the past two years. Passionate believers in anything are always scary. Zealots more so.
Zero interest in integration. Eventual subjugation more like. 😮
I heard it once that it is in the Koran for Muslims to NOT assimilate into different cultures.
Also to lie to the so-called infidels. In order to deceive them and eventually take over. You cannot trust mishlums
The Holy Quran says obey the rules of the country where you live in. Obey the laws, unless it explicitly goes against your religious, for example lgbt stuff. What makes you say that Muslims aren’t assimilating? Is it that they’re not leaving their religion on mass?
It is beholden upon all Muslims wherever they may go to transform the countries they settle in INTO islameek THAT IS ONE OF THEIR DUTIES.
@@peterg4944 it’s called preaching. Christians seem like they’ve stopped preaching, probably because they don’t believe in it anymore. I hear Christians preaching liberal secularism instead.
@@peterg4944 if you believed that your religion is the best for everyone, wouldn’t you want to share it with others? Muslims believe they got the right answers for your problems. You have problems with low birth rates, lgbt, corporate exploitation, drug and alcohol addiction. You can find answers for all of these problems in Islam
Beautifully stated.
It’s the amount of immigration that impacts countries. Once it surpasses a certain percentage it leads to a demonstrable change ..
Imaratis, Qataris, Saudis, Bahrainis, and Kuwaitis all disagree with you. None of this scaremongering bulshit is true.
Respectfully, Ferguson and those of his ilk who advocate on behalf of (mass) immigration do so on the supposition that European immigration to North American is analogous to third world migration into the Western World. The former community was essentially uniform in language, religion and customs, while the former represent communities which hate both one another and their host nations.
The West can no more survive the inundation of peoples who bear no resemblance or fealty to European/British society than an aquarium of dolphins exist among a population of piranha.
Ferguson, et al consider themselves sufficiently insulated from the affects of the third world's campaign to displace the rightful heirs to Western society, yet they would do well to consider that they too will eventually have a day of reckoning with their future demographic masters.
Guess the post is only visible to the writer not others??? Can someone technically explain how this is done, please????
You can not assimilate an ideology that is in direct conflict with your societies values. We separate "church and state", islam has church state military all in the one play book
Any society which values coexistence must reject immigrants who seek to disrupt or destroy this. It's not a question of assimilation but of selection.
It's all about the free stuff.
When people immigrate solely for economic reasons and not some combination of economics and social purposes *and* the destination country, to Niall's point, does a poor job of compelling compliance with that country's values, that is a problem in the making. This is, of course, further complicated by the fact that we, at least here in the United States, are wildly in disagreement with one another about what our values actually are.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Brigitte Gabriel both come from the Muslim world - we ignore their “lived experience” and warnings at our own peril - they too are “canaries in the coal mines”
But there is no consequence if they fail to hold up their side of the bargain.
This means they laugh in our faces for being weak.
Its practically Islam, that has the biggest issue with immigration, European immigration to America has been a success because we share the same Judean Christian-Roman-Greco ideas and culture, Islam doesn't, its that simple, Blacks are a problem too but that's cultural and perhaps biological. Coincidentally the greatest proponents of mass immigration and they sit of the boards of NGOs and human rights lobbies are secular Liberal Jews, when Islam takes its antisemitism with them to the west the Jews ask 'why us'?
Jews are not allowed to enter church but can go to mosque. Judeo Christian means only that Christians must praise Jews. That's all.
We forget that colonisation is baked into every sect of Islam.
I don't won't to intergreat, I won't to live amongst my own people
It really does depend on numbers and the strenght/focus of integration/assimilation. Comparing my own country of Norway to our neighbours Sweden we see this very clearly. We have had a "restrictive" aka sensible immigration policy since we first started, with a clear demand of integration and system that has most immigrants needing to learn to language, and the partake in our culture, regardless of where they came from. We have also debated the pro's and con's of immigration on our society openly since it started, and not been censored in the same way we see in many other nations.
So a few things that seems to have been important and noteworthy:
When people first arrive, they get sent to various parts of the country, so we avoid ghettos and paralel societies. They are also required to take mandatory language courses and learn about our culture and history.
We have had a decrease in crime over the last 25 years of immigration, most of my fellow country men are positive to it, and we rank second in the world of social mobility for second generation immigrants.
Most people I've spoken too and seen in interviews sees Norway as their home, and seem to appriciate the opportunity they have been given in coming here, and in turn wish to contribute to our society. During these last few weeks there has been no desecration of our monuments, and no large pro-Hamas "demonstrations" with chants supporting genocide.
Everything is ofc not just rosy red, and we have had our share of fanatical religious elements as well. But most of those have thankfully been deported, our intelligence service seems to do a good job of monitoring and infiltrating those that are seen as potential terrorists, and the Muslim community in our country openly talks about how to best work against radicalisation and seem to be willing to take their share of the responsibility.
I was also very proud to see that most of the people in the forefront of fighting back against the attempted infestation of "wokeism" and its racist views, was second generation immigrants. And as for illegal immigrants, a recent survey in 2022 done by our police force, found that less than 0,2% of those that was in the country illegally has stayed.
Compared to Sweden's "saviour complex", failure to integrate/assimilate and blind adherence to "multiculturalism", wich has led to the extreme rise in violent crime, "no go zones", and a native populace that feels betrayed, dejected and overlooked. I cant think of an example of two very similar cultures, handling this in such polar opposite ways, and having such wildly different results! I hope Sweden now seems to be on its way back to sanity, and understand that their "project"/ideology has failed them, and they have thankfully and finally started taking some active measures. Yet it will likely be many years or generations before they can hopefully return to the peaceful soceity they once was.
I hope to see something similar in the Anglosphere, but it seems a strong shift in politics is needed before this will happen. So for now I can only say I wish you the best, and hope you will someday return to some sembelance of normality as well. But it will likely be a long and ardeous fight, and a need for a "re-awakened" populace that takes an active interst in their politics, and not just "vote out of habit".
I agree and I disagree. I agree on the lack of assimilation and respect for Western laws, customs, and traditions, but If people KEEP doing mass exoduses to the West, and breed like rabbits once in, then eventually those Western countries will become utterly swamped and overloaded, collapsing services that will start to deprive the indigenous people, when once upon a time, those same indigenous people could freely access at the drop of a hat. So mass immigration IS a terrible idea right across the board. The WEF/UN/IMF have got it totally wrong, and their 'Agenda' will undoubtedly lead to civil-war on our streets sooner or later.
There is a certain cohort that is notable for causing societal issues wherever they are, even with others of the same faith but alternative interpretation of that faith.
I read several of Niall Ferguson books and totally enjoyed them. I noticed NF rarely mentions Canada when he speaks…are we such navel lint?
Well, mass imigration is partly responsible for all of this. (Look at Hungary, borders closed since 2015! Europe blamed us for not being inclusive. No pro Palestine rallies here.) I doubt you can assimilate people, who's religion is opposed to assimilation.
I am a big fan of Niall Ferguson and I've read at least ten of his books. He writes a great History and his analysis are interesting and thought provoking. You can't speak reasonably about any modern History without finding yourself at some point in the conversation quoting Niall Ferguson. I believe he is partially correct about immigration, it is vital for a healthy and productive society, but much like eating the right foods to maintain a healthy body it is critical (and that point can not be over emphasized) that it is critical to the health and stability of a society to immigrate the right people...and this the Western nations have done a poor job of...and it will doom Europe.
I too was a fan... an admirer of his historical research. That was, until his conflation of mass third world immigration (much of illegal, all of it under the auspices of multiculturalism) with the migration of Europeans to the colonies (the US and the Commonwealth) they had founded.
@@oculii1 Maybe I misunderstood. I thought the principle idea was that immigration unto itself is a good thing, essential actually and I believe that to be true. Where maybe I missed the boat was on the concept of immigration and integration, which Muslims have failed at miserably. That's not to say there aren't valuable contributions that Muslims can and do make, but as a whole most Muslims do not integrate well into a modern Western culture where multi-culturalism is the norm and a desired goal. Muslims are use to theocracies. In the West, theocracy is generally prohibited by laws and/or constitutions. So it is no surprise that Muslims don't meld well into Western societies.
So the problem is multiculturalism not immigration. Don't want to adopt British culture at the expense of your own, don't move to Britain. Don't want to adopt Australian culture don't move to Australia.
No the problem is Islam as it inherently devalues human life.
Arguing for "implicit contracts" is disingenuous at best. Non-US immigration across the last forty years has very largely been deliberate relocation to exploit the chances to be better off economically while remaining nationally, culturally, linguistically and religiously original - it has not been to escape the shortcomings of a homeland, the persecution of a religion or political position which it used to be. The US has this notion of the American Dream that everyone is required to loudly subscribe to - it is the safety valve of an immature, over-confident culture that is ultimately much more successful than the laissez-faire, slightly embarrassed by colonial pasts, guilt-ridden quiet acquiescence of the rest of "The West". The US model is "come, work, be loudly American or be illegal and afraid" - and it works, the Western-European model has become the flip-flopping of social and political engineering by politicians.
As long as you have good laws and a good law enforcement system, you should not worry what personal beliefs someone holds in their minds. The problem has never been religion per sei. Actually the real believers are the best because they are predictable and actually have a strong moral system that can be anything but harmful. What you should care about is law enforcement that tackles problems practicaly without pointing fingers at religions/ideologies that have little -to-nothing to do with the actual problems.
We don’t want Ishlamb
And it is important to do it in a legal way. It is not a good thing to barge across the border and expect to be accepted in a good way.
This is the only thing they go on about day and night
Twenty years ago even to utter the word Eurabia in polite company was to label yourself as a ghastly "Far Right Racist!" Likewise to note publically that, for example, a disturbingly large percentage of girl children simply vanished overnight when they reached middle school age and their parents saw no need for further schooling for mere females, would have been an extremely unwise career move for a public educational employee whether in Manchester or Minneapolis.
RIP UK, FRANCE, GERMANY, ETC.
This fella knows the west is best ..just ask him.
Failure to assimilate, failure to integrate,failure to explain and accept the norms and laws of that society, allegiance remains to another power . Yup, a plane or boat ride does not change who you are, got it. Here is another viewpoint if is not deleted.
Yes, one can agree with what he stated to some degree but Neil left out that immigration is also a money making machine for many.
Do not know if the superstructure theory is relevant here but it may apply, Neil know about that too.
From the busy point of view , the importer which is the government not the man on the street is in charge of immigration whether legal or illegal especially with open borders generally in the West.
John you and Neil are two smart men, do you not think the politicians past and present did not know, understand, or could not be informed about what was happened to their countries or was it deliberate??
The Western governments, the importer saw it partly too as one would a business deal, one person one wedgit, get them out into circulation, no in our business policy we do not offer a recall or a guarantee, we just flood the market with more wedgits, rinse and repeat.
Anyway , regardless the business model is sound because the importer has no repercussions , what loose an election, the next guy behind me has the same ideology on wedgits and the taxpayer burdens all the costs.
If someone were to object and ask is this working out , use phobia kryptonite or something else to quiet discontent.
Could be totally wrong on the subject, one thing though is certain, there is no going back and the politicians have to implement and enforce the ideas Neil stated if some Western countries are to survive. Thank you men.
America imported Europeans big difference
"The West" is not making a mistake, the immigrants are. They do not take up the offers of the host society to assimilate and indeed in some subcultures, the word "assimilation" is taboo. That is not a failure of the West. BTW I would except most Black-Africans, West Indians and many Asians out of this. These people even assimilate rather well.
Did blacks in the US assimilate over centuries?
Mostly no. They are an extremely problematic demographic that have their own subculture and parallel societies, their own identity and values, and are also responsible for an outrageously disproportionate amount of crime.
Generally immigrants should be judged on a per person basis, but if you want a rule of thumb, then blacks are also generally low quality migrants.
Ferguson and many others are confused about this "integration/assimilation" nonsense. It's not needed.
The Amish and Mennonites refused to assimilate/integrate for decades, and are worthy immigrants.
The problem is that some cultures, not all, seek to replicate their home culture in the host country and NOT tolerate the culture, laws and traditions of the host country. Therein lies the problem. Immigrants who are productive and abide by the laws of the host country are just fine, no integration needed.
I sometimes wonder how they would react should they be called upon to defend their 'new' homeland.
You failed to distinguish between assimilation and integration. UK government in the sixties expected immigrants to obey our laws ie integrate - but not necessarily adopt our culture ie assimilate
Bring in a new law and bring in another that doesnt need to listen to any court of law and things will be fine
It is a two-way street! Yes!
That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............................................
Put a African lion & Asian lion together yes they are both lions however different nationality. They will clash same expecting east & west to get on yes both people but different cultures. Multiculturalism only works when cultures are similar or if minority willing integrate.
Euro Arabia or Arabia Euro, what's the problem?
Enoch Powell saw it coming.....
The influx of high levels of Islamic people IMO is insidious and the UK will have major societal problems in the not too distant future, I worry for my grandchildren and their future in this broken country. All perpetrated and allowed by successive governments of the past and present.
Commentaries like these should not be broadcast in the EU. They are offensive to both their targets and to me.
😂
He says, the problem is not immigration because some immigration is good for the economy. I think the economy is the last thing to think about when it comes to immigration. If you exchange 67M French for 67M Chinese, no matter how integrated or productive they are, France ceases to exist. Americans are still obsessed with multiculturalism, but France has always applied assimilationism and we can see the results. Integration is a myth when it comes to non-European immigrants and in large numbers.
But surelly if immigrants come in enough numbers there is no need for them to accimilate
He is a victim of Fabian socialism and who they serve 🕊️❤️🙏☘️
انتم مخطئين اصلا لانكم السبب المباشر للهجرة...فلا تملي على المهاجر شروط الاستقبال في بلدك وانت تشارك بالحروب في بلده لتسرق خيرات بلاده تحت شعارات التحرير الكاذبه... هذا تكبر !!!!المفروض ان نحاربكم ولكننا لا نفعل لاننا نفرق بين الشعوب وحكامها...وهذا تواضعنا...
All the values that you tried to pass on to us for a century have fallen by the wayside because of the Gaza war. So why should we integrate a society that does not have unchangeable values depending on races and circumstances? dwarf
Two cults that despise Jesus the Son of God are fighting each other - this is how many Christians view the conflict in Gaza. Since the resurrection of Jesus, the rabbis have made Judaism a godless cult, just like the prophet Muhammad
I wonder how it is that people will finally show in numbers for solidarity over Western values. Millions in the streets protesting a breach or even millions in the streets celebrating Enlightenment values? We need a show in numbers to show that people CAN come together
Niall is huffing copium here, its about where the immigrants come from and in what number and for what reason. Economist too often see humans as pawns you are able to move around consequens, it is well known what negative impact immigration from disperate cultrures has had on civil society.
The state must monitor the immigrant for 5 years to see if he lives actively as a Christian believer: he is regularly in prayer communities, regularly attends Holy Mass and passes several exams in Christian doctrine. The integration of immigrants as godless is meaningless
Population keep increasing by marriage and can have 4 wives will enormously .
I don't think this is right. Arguably, multiculturalism is a deliberate liberal strategy, intended to produce the type of inter-cultural societies and leaders envisaged by the founders of the United Nations. That the United Nations has become a base for Communist organization and a propagandist for causes which violate its own Charter aside, multiculturalism forces citizens to think in global, international terms if continued prosperity is desired. E.g. the meal on my table is supplied by the combined efforts of people of many cultures.
Of course this also brings out people suffering from the megalomania implicit in exclusive monotheism, however I think that emergence is a phase in a far longer development.
In time, all these protesting people will learn submit to God. Muslims telling the West to submit to God must also submit to God, or they're worse than the worst of religious hypocrites.
Islam supposedly means submission, but what we're seeing is not submission at all.
" I(slam is the broom which will sweep Christianity out of Europe " - Jacob Rothschild)
"jews and muslims are natural allies in Europe" pinchas Goldschmidt.
Correct quote: "Islam is the broom if israel" rav touitou
FFS Niall we all know what we mean by immigration in civilisational terms! Ferguson shows his civnat hand. And that essentially is little more than Glo-bo-ho-mo.
Because brits are masters of integration
Good discussion; terrible music 😎.
Wrong analysis.
The “failure” he describes wasn’t a mistake.
It was a deliberate non mandated policy to change our society by importing people who were indoctrinated in religious political ideologies.
His premise completely misses the overriding fact that we have been wilfully destroyed by our own politicians, who take orders from non democratic organisations.
It is far more sinister than his simple analysis.
He needs to live in Britain again and get back in touch with the reality of the loss of democracy, with its surrender to global organisations.
You mean Euro'istan.
Jesus was not a European. A Palestinian.
There you go. Halve of your culture is not really yours at all.
U keep on talking and discussing but they had already conquered and deatroyed your country. Fight back lah.
What a neo-con
F Em if They refuse to stand for themselves, their innocents.
Stupidly stated!