The diffference was 50 years ago that people in the west were united in the idea of nationhood. An Englishman understood what being British was, a Yank knew he was American, an Australian understood that he was Australian. Today, that is not the case. Young people despise their culture. If people hate their culutre, how can it survive?
The ‘difference’ is that the young people are brain washed and indoctrinated by a political woke teaching base that insists that the western nations are evil and should be ashamed of their historical past ! These young people believe all that they are told, without a scintilla of intellectiual curiosity to check the factual truths and challenge with an alternate opinion !
99.99% of people are nationalists and some are Marxists(even most "Marxists" are Slovenian, Jewish, Palestinian, Turkish, Somali, Ukrainian nationalists in disguise)
In the US less than 50% of young people are white. Black, Arab and Hindu nationalists do not support Israel or Ukraine because they are "white" Demography is destiny. Just like in Ancient Rome or at the fall of the Soviet Union.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within" - Abraham Lincoln.
@@kevoreilly6557 He didn’t mean that at all! That’s just your interpretation of what he said and the continuation of division is what’s causing the problems, it doesn’t seem you learn anything from this discussion.
Decline is not inevitable, but our leadership is so inept (and worse than inept, they are catastrophically misguided and unequal to the challenges facing us) that decline of the West is all but guaranteed. Our leaders are corrupt and lack the vision and the motivation to put in place the hard reforms that are needed to even slow the decline.
People in any country with elections which are at least fairly clean and fall on time get the government they deserve. If we really merited much better we would know it deep down and not stand for the present nonsense. As things are, we quietly realize that there's really no reason that our leaders should be better than ourselves. The West since 1965 has been about little more than the chiselling out of one brick after another from the edifice of our civilization, largely (it would seem) to see what we could get away with, how much we can weaken it before it comes crashing down. It's not just out of laziness or stupidity either. Many actually get their kicks that way (as a glance around during the month of June will confirm). There's a profound soul-sickness in a society of people doing such a thing. Over-the-top liberalism is a problem. So is the massive experiment with irreligion and atheism. Solid people can get along fine without god by managing the risks; others are ill-advised to even try.
@@dixonpinfold2582 I agree with you on some points, but not on all. For instance, I do not believe that organized religion would have prevented the decline of the US.
@@sirrodneyffing1 We must resist the leftist paradigm. There is nothing free in the world. The left buys its supporters by promising them free things. "It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer." (Thomas Sowell)
How glorious to have intelligence and knowledge, not filtered through any political agenda or ideological rubbish, just awareness of multiple aspects of reality.
You are mistaken in thinking that they use their intellect outside of certain ideological constraints. Their hate of all things Soviet, as an example, makes them darlings of the West but completely devoid of balanced, scientific, if you will, position. Propagandists at best.
@@edilemma8052 Christ. "Scientific", as in "paying attention to evidence and drawing logical conclusions", e.g. the evidence that Communism, under the Soviets, Mao and Stalin, led to over 100 million deaths in the 20th century, and was the most enormous social and economic bunch of errors, to put it politely, that humanity has ever experimented with?
Kids of today are miserable because they are constantly being taught this country has an evil horrific past, nothing we have ever done is positive and their futures are screwed. Is it any wonder they feel this way. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and there was much to be fearful of however we were taught we had our own agency our countries past was mostly good and that we all had bright futures and I would argue the majority of kids were either neutral or positive!
Evil past? What about invading Iraq on a lie? Did Blair get done for that? Making a mess of Afghanistan before bailing. Meanwhile Tiananmen Square was mentioned yet again on BBC... Something that happened in China 35 years ago gets aired out year after year while Blair remains a free man and the event never spoken of again. It's not only that! Millennials and Gen Z alike feels like they don't have a future because they feel Boomers are hoarding all the resources.
They are not being taught that at all, at least not in their schools. The entire attempt to bury the past and never come to terms with the reality of the US' brutal history is embodied in the effort to attack "critical race theory" (which is generally only taught in universities anyway). This attempt to hide from the truth means (at the very least) Americans have a deluded understanding of what has made their country successful and it feeds into the other nationalist myths that make the US dangerous to the entire world.
@@marklybeer9038I don't speak with young people, but I heard worrying stuff about smartphone generation. They can't express their opinion, they don't make friends with peers, they seem dumb. School teachers say even more worrying stuff: half of students seems like they have learning issues: they can't remember 2 part assignment for a small text and execute it. Maybe they didn't run as kids and it impacted their brain development.
Crowds foster group think, so one best avoids them. Then again, if loneliness is such a problem, question is why? Is it the dominance of social media cultivation that has kept young people from engaging with other people, the fact that it takes two parents working 80 hours each a week to get the bills paid that makes them feel not seen and disconnected? Or even poverty and deprivation? I'd really dig that.
I would argue that perhaps the kids don't have enough to do in a constructive sense. Couple this to a diet with too many processed foods and parents who are both working to make ends meet and you have a recipe for failure. Not all situations like this will fail but any increase in failure skews the end result.
Young people are lonely because they are the 'me' generation - they know nothing of service and community or civil patriotism...hence their small mindedness...
Really? Supporting Ukraine has driven the Russians into the arms of the Chinese, emboldened brics, and accelerated de-dollarisation. The West needs to learn the limits of its power or risk accelerating its decline. John Mearsheimer is who you need to take advice from, not a has been neocon like Ferguson.
@@Thichaou WOKE ? Do you not understand or know anything about Niall Ferguson ? He despises WOKE and the left, the way the brains of our young have been indoctrinated with made up Marxist garbage ! His new Uni in Austin is based on learning and meritocracy !
I applied to be a lecturer at Austin University. I am a multi talented award winning eclectic unwoke world traveler with 30 original publications, and after a month have not received a reply.
@@shankerram6076afraid? no, it just doesn't fit. Those currently described as "terrorists" were named so by Israel, the country currently before the ICJ on charges of genocide.
exactly. the young don't remember what they have never been taught. Marxists own the teachers union and have distorted history teaching which is what socialists do best: propaganda.
@@alexanderhendry5819there are different types of order. Rules that people have to adhere to is not the same as the state ordering the citizens activity along all major topics of life. In one case order is used to protect the civic rights, while the other tramples on individual rights to serve „the greater good“
The leftist infiltration of the education system is precisely responsible for the complete historical incompetence of their utopian ideals - which are unattainable whilst human nature remains human nature.
That does explain why the young in Germany voted overwhelmingly for the so called far right in recent EU parliamentary elections after they lowered the voting age from 18 to 16 in the hopes that the votes this added would defeat the far right since the young always vote for the left. You see Germany used to have a government that espoused those values as well and it took almost the entire world fighting them to stop them.
Yes, hard to believe we are not in a cycle, and in the Crisis part of it. As Howe says in The Fourth Turning, we are 16 years into the Crisis. How will it end? Likelihood is war of some sort. China Iran/Middle East, Russia, N Korea, Turkey....or just as likely another US civil war. Further the mass migration of Muslims into Europe and the west generally is highly unlikely to end well. Completely different cultures and no desire to assimilate. 💣
Quite funny that Ferguson is sceptical towards a cyclical perspective on history, but during the whole interview is arguing in a way which assumes that history is progressing in cycles.
That’s how much absurd it gets when the agenda is to spin the facts to make a desired point. I admire his chauvinism but he is rather often a reactionary, which makes him come across as a hack.
I think it comes across like that because he is trying to assuage the fears of imminent civilizational collapse that exist in public discourses as well as to prove that capable figures in the relevant fields have their eyes on the situation. That the feelings of concern are being taken serious by at least some people, who are trying to find the truth and thus be able to make recommendations to avert worse outcomes. It's a bit of a tight rope he is walking, to not suggest that there is a historical inevitably but down wards trends we can make changes to. Edit: spelling
"If people want housing to be more affordable, you'd think they would be against green belts, instead of tying themselves to trees" No, most of them just start noticing that there's a housing shortage because of the millions of people being imported into Britain. But, when they object to that, the Establishment says "Racist!" or "lalalalala, not listening".
Good points, articulated accurately and succinctly. Time for a positive message for youngsters to commit to with passion and resolve; purpose and vision.
The West has any number of things it needs to improve - we fall so sort of our professed ideals in so many ways. But this never meant that out autocratic opponents, those who envy and fear the democratic accountability, the transparency and human rights we aspire to - are in any fashion better than us.
Niall's wife (during her talk about Islam spreading like cancer) mentioned last week that she lives in the U.S., so she and Niall have already abandoned Europe because they see that the stage if set for sharia, which is why 95% of the invading migrants are young muslim men of military fighting age.
@@lawrencefrost9063 You do realise that this issue has been going on for decades. The OP has a fair point that people with the means have run to the US where they can pontificate on our problems but as always it will be the working class men that fix this disaster and it will be bloody.
I was in high school (state) 1979-84. Our history stopped after WW1. I asked why we didn't cover WW2 at the time and was merely told "we don't cover that".
Agreed with Niall. I have thought, particularly recently as we watch the 'decline' of the West, that the democratic free enterprise West by its very foundational principles, has the capacity for repair and regeneration. Therefore the cyclical expected decline is not on. What we need to understand is that the ruling class in academia, media, NGOs, government administrations , politics have as an agenda their wealth power and prestige and are destroying everything with their narcissism and hubris.
It is the myth of "democratic free enterprise," which got us here. We choose between two political parties, but they all represent the same global agreements so nothing changes whichever is in power. In my country's last census we see what decades of mass immigration the people didn't want does to democracy. If you are not a recent immigrant you are a minority and your vote doesn't matter. So our democracy is controlled by others and only goes as far as choosing between two globalist puppets.
I see two problems in my country with "democratic free enterprise." The first is that voting means choosing between two parties with the same policies, so nothing really changes, they've all made the same global agreements which is what really matters to them.
The second is the long term effects of mass immigration on democracy. Our census shows that if you are not a recent immigrant your vote doesn't matter, as you are now a statistical minority.
Well, I don't agree. It's about taking responsibility. How is, that so many young people grow up in a very difficult circumstances and still overcome fear and doubt, and overwin huge obstacles? And make a world to a better place. For themselves and for others.
5:09 ROFLMAO, no major economic problems, none whatsoever... thanks for stating this so early, saved me from wasting time on the rest of this nonsense.
Great discussion. I have a comment relative to young (and many older) people not really knowing what unfreedom is. I am a 76 year old American living in Kherson, Ukraine throughout the war. This has included the initial battle for the city, Russian military occupation, a stint in military detention and interrogation, liberation and the subsequent 18 months of daily bombardment from the Russians on the left bank. I agree with Mr. Ferguston that we (Americans, British, etc.) are not fully appreciative of the freedoms (not perfect or really that good in many respects) that we have by world or historical standards. Again, great discussion and keep up the good work.
Artificially increasing the population via mass migration ruins the environment and the economy (too many consumers chasing too few resources). After the Great Plague of the Middle Ages, which reduced the total population of Europe by a massive 1/3, living standards for the poor improved and workers were able to organize trade unions for the first time ever! If the total population in Britain was 1 million native Brits, each Brit would enjoy an extremely high standard of living! Britain is heading towards massive pollution and overpopulation, incl. housing & food shortages.
I have seen environmental damage in Australia from the same cause. I grew up thirty minutes drive from a capital city. We lived on dirt roads with acre yards. The yards had koalas, echidnas, possums and all sorts of reptiles everywhere, living quite happily. Due to immigration today it is four lanes of asphalt and a concrete jungle of high density housing. The koala is officially extinct in the wild in the region, and the other animals are gone.
American here. From my perspective, the failure of previous generations is not indicated by the failure of schools to teach about Hitler (as the youth seemed to compulsively identify disagreement as fascism) but rather a lacking and understanding of the shared roots of fascism and communism. As a result it feels as though my generation avidly avoided Nazism to such an extent that we are witnessing their allegiance to what they perceive to be the polar opposite, communism. Understanding the utopian inclination and religious impulse that gives it weight can prevent delusions of both strong men and synthetic unity. Americans need to have an understanding that our system is intended to distribute the processing power needed to run a country, rather than entrusting a dictator of one variety or another who can appeal to their simplistic pursuit of virtues without nuance.
Young people are concerned, they are just powerless to do anything about it. The top down corruption is so systemic an dentrenched that there are nolonger any avenues for recourse.
One of my childhood memories (which I understood a LOT better when I reached adulthood and learned my history) was going to my mother and asking her "Mommy why is Grandma (who lived next door and I and my younger brother had the run of both houses) crying all the time and saying 'September 1939' a lot?" When I grew up and learned my history I understood why - she was 'crying all the time' in October 1961 and we lived in Canada's largest seaport only two hours north of the United States' biggest aircraft company and understood as a young adult that we would be ground zero in any war.
Would our debt be a problem, when we created the fresh money/credit ourselves, borrowed it by our selves, payed it back to our selves and payed the interest to our selves, like we did in so much glorious times and countries? OK, most of these brilliant, people-loving leaders (f.ex.Qaddafi) were assassinated or/and their countries destroyed, so that our politicians tend to follow the brutal rules of the money-masters, without questioning their dictatorship.
He is so right. I can link myself wirh what he said as a Chinese moved to this country in my later 20s. Both my children were Gen Z, born and grown up here. I kept telling them UK is one of most equal, tolerance and kind society in the world. While they want this society better, do not loss sight of a bigger picture. Those dictators are happy to see democratic coutries weaker.
@@shankerram6076 As you oblivious to reality and love silly labels that prevent anyone dealing with anything seriously; the "banksters" are not the problem. The "banksters" are a product of the fractional reserve banking system, Govt. fiat currency, Govt. national debt issuance and Central banks fiddling with interest rates. Put food out for rats and you get rats.
@@НадяЦве́ткова-р7э No it isn't. It's 70 years of undersupply because of Government regulation through the Town and Country Planning Act, central planning and environmentalism which is the silent thief that has stolen away millions of peoples chance to own affordable homes.
Excellent conversation. 16:17 Konstantin forgets, not being a believer himself, the lack of values and life goals, which creates nihilism, and the need for life goals which draws the young into radicalism
Unity is important, which makes the economic war the Europeans have waged against Australia with their punitive trade embargo all the more perplexing. Just what is the intellectual deficit in Europe that insists on their trading with Russia but prohibits trading with Australia for the same products?
Alternatively, why not extend the Five Eyes beyond military security into the economic sphere? Within the West, it’s the Anglosphere and the Continentals that are the two main blocs. We might as well consolidate our own faction.
Didn't think the USA had any 'allies' these days.... they seem to be more 'slaves' or countries that have been coerced. And whose fault is it that China has grown so much? I was asking this exact question to my dad about 30 years ago.....
China has grown because of the hard work and sacrifices of its people combined with the good governance of its government. China used to be the richest nation on earth for thousands of years up until the British showed up and f Ed them up in the Opium wars, following by a bunch of other Western Imperialist countries who showed up like locusts and gang graped China for 100 years up until 1947. Now they are just going back to their natural place in human history, the top, followed by India which also used to be one of the richest regions on earth for millenniums It is Western hegemony that is an aberration in human history and now History and Nature is auto correcting itself
@@danwelterweight4137 You just described how every economy "grows" using the economic system we have. Hard work and sacrifices. Yes The west, however, has been the greatest innovator and it grew massively for ages because they/we were so so far ahead of the rest of the world. Western hegemony was achieved through that AND hard work. No aberration at all. The west has been fantastic and deserved hegemony 100%. China didn't. They did not innovate for so so long and were always extremely protecive in terms of keeping everything within China. Ergo, they fell behind. Then a few decades ago, they opened themselves up. So with western company greed and costs spiralling because things had gotten so good, and in an aim to get the most out of the littlest amount put in, they opened up trade with the world (globalisation) and primarily China. They took advantage of the really cheap labour and production costs. Moving almost ALL production to China they did away with the fundamentals of a real growing economy... Production and underconsumption. Western countries stopped producing and carried on consuming. And to top it off they thought that fuelling it all by debt would be a good idea... which it clearly isn't... but try telling some economists that. Doing this should have been obvious from very early on. Put simply, had the west been more restricted on their "globalisation" and not made China the "workshop of the world", China's economy would not have been able to explode the way they did. There is no "rightful place" and China too will follow the exact same path and decline at some point. NOW is just their time to be on top. So to go back to my original point.... it's the west that unrestrictedly let China out of the box and it was clear from early on... so it's stupid for the west to complain.
@@danwelterweight4137Persia similarly was a "great power" for a very long time. These countries have very long histories of science, mathematics, medicine & trade which the West has taken & claimed as its own.
I'd recommend podcast with prof. Richard Wolff (economic updates/ global capitalism) where you'll find out answers to your questions and more, if you're interested in geopolitics and global economy.
You can't oppose something with nothing. I wrote an essay "Systematic Individualism" which explains why Individualism is the only just basis of society. The more freedom (less government regulation) individuals enjoy, the more just is society. All decisions must be based upon mutual individual consent (will) for society to be just.The true sociological/measurement is individualism vs. elitism. Left vs. Right is an artificial constuct developed for the benefit of the left (collectivists.)
I needed to watch this video with guess speaker Niall Ferguson twice to fully appreciate the evasive answers to what were clearly very direct and pressing issues currently affecting us all in the U.S. How does the song go, I'm your private dancer, well folks this guy just won't dance for us. You don't have to live in the U.S. very long to realize that the threats to our freedoms and liberties don't come from Russia, Iran, North Corea, nor China. In this world it's been a common practice of stablished regimes to cast blame on external sources beyond a country's own borders in an attempt to totally deflect responsibility for enacting government policies and prerogatives that seriously erode the freedoms and liberties of their people. The real problems facing us all in the U.S. like the loss of morality, fractured national identity, dwindling opportunities to have a family, governed not according to the prerogatives of the people, government taxation and expansion, etc., are all the doings of people in positions of power and authority. As Americans we're very much aware, being on the receiving end, of the consequences of government policy makers that condone the breakdown of safety measures such as safe and secure borders, the division of the nuclear family, alternative lifestyles, social aggravators like drugs and alcohol, etc. All of these things are happening to Americans for no other reason than because internal strife and turmoil creates bountiful opportunities for people in positions of power and authority to chip away a little bit more from your freedoms and liberties. That's right folks, as intended instead of living in a harmonious and rewarding American society we're instead being fed a steady diet of problems and never-ending crisis that are all without exception manmade. So, I ask, what gives, are we as American people masters of our own destiny as proclaimed in the Constitution of the United States of America, or have we all become no different and no better than citizens from Russia, Iran, North Corea, and China? ReneB, Florida.
Civilizational collapse: Even if you take his Draconian forecasts with a pinch of salt, Peter Zeihan makes the compelling point that China's looming demographic collapse adds credence to Niall's point that the PRC might be the most likely candidate for civilizational crisis or collapse than its Western rivals. Same for Russia.
Zeihan is one of those clowns who have been making China collapse predictions for years. China is capable of long term planning unlike most countries. They are building automated factories that work in the dark for example.
I don't think China is a civilized country, the Chinese eat dog meat, they are the largest consumer of dog meat in the world, they just return to barbarism
Its global because of how interconnected the world is and how everyone relies on another economically. We also have a system that requires infinite growth to sustain itself and by growth I mean people and we are not going to have that any more. Global fertility is now at or slightly above replacement and is trending downwards everywhere. There might not be a civilization collapse but it happens it will be preceded by population collapse.
The West is facing decline because of what the West is doing. Its nothing to do with other countries somehow conspiring in an Axis of whatever The state of the West is down to Western Culture Western ideology and the Socioeconomic political system it has spawned. It was the West that allowed itself to be over run by immigrants, its the West that decided it had to do Net Zero, its the West that suddenly decided that Men could become Women and anyone who disagreed was a bigot and it was the West that decided banking and finance was more important that actually making real things and service and it was the West that decided to export all its manufacturing off shore and thereby destroy its own industrial scientific and technology base. The West Buttfracked itself no one else
Why not both? Seriously. Even if we stopped all our own nonsense on a dime starting tomorrow morning, we would still be under attack. See _World, history of._
I'm definitely with No all rather than the doom mongers who I'm really bored with. They really can't know how bad other countries are. If people can't buy houses, it's not ok but not the end of the world. Other things need to change and can change.
Civilisations fall due to economic factors , and a failure by leaders to do anything about it soon enough. Also a lack of vision and falling apart of what empires used to stand for in their hay days.
I hate the idea, that societies cyclically go down. But there are old sayings like: "A new war normally can only start, when most of the participants of the last war died of." or, "Bad times make good men, good men make good times, good times make bad men bad men make bad times."
When I see TV shows like 'Home Town' on HGTV I see hope. Displaying good family values and strong male role models supporting their partners and community.
9:17 The Roman empire in the west collapsed very quickly because their elites no longer believed in their generals occupying northern Europe. It kept costing more money than retreived from it. Then Constantin decide to move the capital to Byzantium. Later named after him. They simply did not receive money anymore to support their armies. And ruling from Rome no longer was applicable.
The new power Islam controlled paper. And Rome ran on laws written on papyrus that was no longer available. Ergo, unlike the Byzantines, Rome fell to Islam -- until their fates reversed most of a millennium later.
No, it was about trade in general. Constantinopel was right in de middle of trade on the Mediterranian. Byzantine also controled Egypt, so the papyrus narrative does not hold ground. Pure fantasy. Constantin already adopted Christianity. So also the religious argument involving a millenium does not hold ground. Constantin wanted to upgrade the barbarian cultures in the north using Christianity. Which was a peace culture and not one of revenge like Islam. Because their culture did not even involve money or well organized trade. By itself religion had nothing to do with it. The Romans were technocrats.
While the contexts differ vastly, the Ming dynasty's demise due to peasant uprisings fueled by grievances, external threats from Manchu invaders, eroding central authority, economic woes like inflation and debt, as well as military weaknesses parallels some of the challenges the U.S. currently faces - from social unrest driven by inequality and polarization, to geopolitical rivalries, concerns about government gridlock and national debt, supply chain disruptions and inflation, as well as the need for military modernization. The Ming's collapse serves as a historical example of how internal divisions, external pressures, institutional decline, fiscal issues, and military vulnerabilities, if left unaddressed, can potentially undermine even the mightiest of powers.
You explain why the demise of the Ming dynasty but the subject matter is why civilization falls. China dynasties came and gone but the Chinese civilization continues - it is essential to differentiate between dynasty and civilization. Niall has not explained the reasons for the continuation of the Chinese civilization.
This content strikes me as one of the most pronato alternative content that I've seen in the last tow years, here in the south we dont trust you very much and without us you can fight back the BRICS. good luck and God bless you !!
Too many young people have studied unproductive subjects, so the national wealth isn't there to share, and it cannot be regained: the time, the opportunity, has been missed but, according to them, they have better thinking. That needs to be included in their assessment of their assets. Shame on those encouraging them to do that, rd without explaining all the choices available.
Well, the most important thing is, I think, communication. At the end, it's allways growing disturbances of any kind, whatever, who smash the biggest, in the need of better word, "social machineries", "social constructions". It starts in the families.
By thinking in a simplistic, reductionist dual manner-us, the democracies, and them, the autocracies-Niall Ferguson seems unable to engage in meaningful theorizing within the evolving context of our contemporary world. Moreover, it appears he ideologically refuses to acknowledge the new world order emerging before our eyes. Consequently, he is a historian who is outdated by history.
I have always taken cyclical to mean things rise and fall in (retrospectively) somewhat predictable patterns, like inflation trends up for a while, then down, repeat. Or population goes up, them down, repeat, and so on. Not sure Niall refutes this. It is certainly not linear or progressive.
Climbing Parnassus is a response to this situation, and Simmons identifies the reason for it: We have abandoned classical education and we have paid a high price for doing so. We no longer know what past civilizations valued; we educate our students not knowing what ‘ideal’ human beings we hope will be the result of that education; we have assumed that the transfer of cultural ideals-civilization-will be automatic; we have forgotten that education involves the cultivation of individuals (as Andrew Kern sets forth in his talk The Contemplation of Nature, that children are souls to be nurtured, not products to be measured); and rather than educating our students well in select areas, strengthening their skills and deepening their maturity, we have tried to cover too many subjects and we have covered them poorly. In fact, we have formed students whom C.S. Lewis describes in The Abolition of Man as ‘men without chests.’ Even though published in the mid 1940s, Lewis identifies a result of modern education which Simmons recognizes has come to fruition.
US debt servicing has overtaken US defense spending: For the first seven months of fiscal year 2024, which began last October, net interest payments totaled $514 billion, outpacing defense by $20 billion. Budget analysts think that trend will continue, making 2024 the first year ever that the United States will spend more on interest payments than on national defense
Curious if Ferguson ever speaks to anyone in GenZ. As a parent of two of them, they are smarter and more connected to the world than I was at their age.
The diffference was 50 years ago that people in the west were united in the idea of nationhood. An Englishman understood what being British was, a Yank knew he was American, an Australian understood that he was Australian. Today, that is not the case. Young people despise their culture. If people hate their culutre, how can it survive?
The ‘difference’ is that the young people are brain washed and indoctrinated by a political woke teaching base that insists that the western nations are evil and should be ashamed of their historical past ! These young people believe all that they are told, without a scintilla of intellectiual curiosity to check the factual truths and challenge with an alternate opinion !
50 years ago those countries were white, now they're "diverse". Diversity is a codeword for White GENOCIDE.
The so called "left democratic liberals" are freely aligning with islamic terrorists: why? Look at the British; they are NOT opposing sharia law!!!
99.99% of people are nationalists and some are Marxists(even most "Marxists" are Slovenian, Jewish, Palestinian, Turkish, Somali, Ukrainian nationalists in disguise)
In the US less than 50% of young people are white. Black, Arab and Hindu nationalists do not support Israel or Ukraine because they are "white"
Demography is destiny. Just like in Ancient Rome or at the fall of the Soviet Union.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within" - Abraham Lincoln.
"Chris" Wong LOL. you must be from Hong Kong, ashamed of having Chinese name
Putin Xi and their troll farms: “hold my beer”
He was right, but what he meant republicans don’t understand
Lincoln did not know what hybrid war is. US is being hijacked by islamists powered by Iran and Qatar and leftists powered by Russia.
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He didn’t mean that at all! That’s just your interpretation of what he said and the continuation of division is what’s causing the problems, it doesn’t seem you learn anything from this discussion.
Decline is not inevitable, but our leadership is so inept (and worse than inept, they are catastrophically misguided and unequal to the challenges facing us) that decline of the West is all but guaranteed. Our leaders are corrupt and lack the vision and the motivation to put in place the hard reforms that are needed to even slow the decline.
People in any country with elections which are at least fairly clean and fall on time get the government they deserve. If we really merited much better we would know it deep down and not stand for the present nonsense. As things are, we quietly realize that there's really no reason that our leaders should be better than ourselves.
The West since 1965 has been about little more than the chiselling out of one brick after another from the edifice of our civilization, largely (it would seem) to see what we could get away with, how much we can weaken it before it comes crashing down. It's not just out of laziness or stupidity either. Many actually get their kicks that way (as a glance around during the month of June will confirm).
There's a profound soul-sickness in a society of people doing such a thing. Over-the-top liberalism is a problem. So is the massive experiment with irreligion and atheism. Solid people can get along fine without god by managing the risks; others are ill-advised to even try.
@@dixonpinfold2582 I agree with you on some points, but not on all. For instance, I do not believe that organized religion would have prevented the decline of the US.
It’s inevitable based on low birth rates versus high birth rates among Muslims. Demography is destiny.
Decline? We've been declining for decades, maybe even for over a century. What we're seeing now is decay.
Exactly! DEI is an advanced stage of "decay".
We have to fight.
Deliberately managed decay.. apathetic neglect and decades of mismanagement.
@@sirrodneyffing1 We must resist the leftist paradigm. There is nothing free in the world. The left buys its supporters by promising them free things.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer." (Thomas Sowell)
It’s sad!
How glorious to have intelligence and knowledge, not filtered through any political agenda or ideological rubbish, just awareness of multiple aspects of reality.
They are amazing people aren't they - so articulate and insightful!
No political agenda?
Laughable, innit? @@Stoddardian
You are mistaken in thinking that they use their intellect outside of certain ideological constraints. Their hate of all things Soviet, as an example, makes them darlings of the West but completely devoid of balanced, scientific, if you will, position. Propagandists at best.
@@edilemma8052 Christ. "Scientific", as in "paying attention to evidence and drawing logical conclusions", e.g. the evidence that Communism, under the Soviets, Mao and Stalin, led to over 100 million deaths in the 20th century, and was the most enormous social and economic bunch of errors, to put it politely, that humanity has ever experimented with?
Kids of today are miserable because they are constantly being taught this country has an evil horrific past, nothing we have ever done is positive and their futures are screwed. Is it any wonder they feel this way. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and there was much to be fearful of however we were taught we had our own agency our countries past was mostly good and that we all had bright futures and I would argue the majority of kids were either neutral or positive!
Evil past? What about invading Iraq on a lie? Did Blair get done for that? Making a mess of Afghanistan before bailing. Meanwhile Tiananmen Square was mentioned yet again on BBC... Something that happened in China 35 years ago gets aired out year after year while Blair remains a free man and the event never spoken of again.
It's not only that! Millennials and Gen Z alike feels like they don't have a future because they feel Boomers are hoarding all the resources.
They are not being taught that at all, at least not in their schools. The entire attempt to bury the past and never come to terms with the reality of the US' brutal history is embodied in the effort to attack "critical race theory" (which is generally only taught in universities anyway). This attempt to hide from the truth means (at the very least) Americans have a deluded understanding of what has made their country successful and it feeds into the other nationalist myths that make the US dangerous to the entire world.
Absolutely correct
I agree - young people seem to be taught never to be motivated, their minds are very linear and simply boring
@@marklybeer9038I don't speak with young people, but I heard worrying stuff about smartphone generation. They can't express their opinion, they don't make friends with peers, they seem dumb. School teachers say even more worrying stuff: half of students seems like they have learning issues: they can't remember 2 part assignment for a small text and execute it. Maybe they didn't run as kids and it impacted their brain development.
Young people are lonely. When they join crowds that loneliness goes away. That is a huge driver.
OhhhMuhhhGosh! I think you have nailed it so soundly that I'm embarrassed I didn't think of it. Brilliant!! Of course you're right.
Just like street gangs craving attention? Probably better off getting a job!
Crowds foster group think, so one best avoids them.
Then again, if loneliness is such a problem, question is why? Is it the dominance of social media cultivation that has kept young people from engaging with other people, the fact that it takes two parents working 80 hours each a week to get the bills paid that makes them feel not seen and disconnected? Or even poverty and deprivation? I'd really dig that.
I would argue that perhaps the kids don't have enough to do in a constructive sense. Couple this to a diet with too many processed foods and parents who are both working to make ends meet and you have a recipe for failure.
Not all situations like this will fail but any increase in failure skews the end result.
Young people are lonely because they are the 'me' generation - they know nothing of service and community or civil patriotism...hence their small mindedness...
I admire the learned Niall Ferguson ! I hope his new university in Austin, Texas, is a huge success - actually it WILL be a great success !
Really? Supporting Ukraine has driven the Russians into the arms of the Chinese, emboldened brics, and accelerated de-dollarisation. The West needs to learn the limits of its power or risk accelerating its decline. John Mearsheimer is who you need to take advice from, not a has been neocon like Ferguson.
The woke university? That explains it!😂
@@Thichaou WOKE ? Do you not understand or know anything about Niall Ferguson ? He despises WOKE and the left, the way the brains of our young have been indoctrinated with made up Marxist garbage ! His new Uni in Austin is based on learning and meritocracy !
I applied to be a lecturer at Austin University. I am a multi talented award winning eclectic unwoke world traveler with 30 original publications, and after a month have not received a reply.
@@ericchristen2623what is your field of study?
These discussions are so important to have and for artists to bring it into our awareness
Hear Hear!
There is a useful collaboration between Islamist activists and woke🙏
What organizations were originally started by Rudolf von Sebottendorf and what was his religion?
They are both intolerant of free thought and speech, divisive, and racist with a victimhood mentality.
Why are you afraid to call them terrorists???
@@shankerram6076afraid? no, it just doesn't fit.
Those currently described as "terrorists" were named so by Israel, the country currently before the ICJ on charges of genocide.
@@alanhat5252 - The UN has designated Hamas a terrorist organization.
Keep up the good work folks
We will! Thank you!
Our schools have TAUGHT that central control is needed...ask young people what values they have..order, equality, conformity
exactly. the young don't remember what they have never been taught. Marxists own the teachers union and have distorted history teaching which is what socialists do best: propaganda.
@@alexanderhendry5819there are different types of order. Rules that people have to adhere to is not the same as the state ordering the citizens activity along all major topics of life. In one case order is used to protect the civic rights, while the other tramples on individual rights to serve „the greater good“
The leftist infiltration of the education system is precisely responsible for the complete historical incompetence of their utopian ideals - which are unattainable whilst human nature remains human nature.
And becoming billionaires by the time theyre 20, despite being totally uncreative...
That does explain why the young in Germany voted overwhelmingly for the so called far right in recent EU parliamentary elections after they lowered the voting age from 18 to 16 in the hopes that the votes this added would defeat the far right since the young always vote for the left. You see Germany used to have a government that espoused those values as well and it took almost the entire world fighting them to stop them.
Thank you for sharing great insights Niall.
"Decline is not inevitable. "
And the universe just laughed and laughed and laughed.
It's like telling Frankenstein's monster as it realizes it's beginning to rot "don't worry, we have lotions for that."
If history doesn't have a cycle, it certainly rhymes.
Yes, hard to believe we are not in a cycle, and in the Crisis part of it. As Howe says in The Fourth Turning, we are 16 years into the Crisis. How will it end? Likelihood is war of some sort. China Iran/Middle East, Russia, N Korea, Turkey....or just as likely another US civil war. Further the mass migration of Muslims into Europe and the west generally is highly unlikely to end well. Completely different cultures and no desire to assimilate. 💣
Niall Ferguson is an excellent thinker and communicator. Real clarity of thought in my opinion..
Quite funny that Ferguson is sceptical towards a cyclical perspective on history, but during the whole interview is arguing in a way which assumes that history is progressing in cycles.
He is in a state of denial. Five-hundred years of hegemony by the west have inculcated a state of hubris in Ferguson.
Almost as if he's an idiot.
@@crhu319Exactly @C H 😉🍌
That’s how much absurd it gets when the agenda is to spin the facts to make a desired point. I admire his chauvinism but he is rather often a reactionary, which makes him come across as a hack.
I think it comes across like that because he is trying to assuage the fears of imminent civilizational collapse that exist in public discourses as well as to prove that capable figures in the relevant fields have their eyes on the situation. That the feelings of concern are being taken serious by at least some people, who are trying to find the truth and thus be able to make recommendations to avert worse outcomes.
It's a bit of a tight rope he is walking, to not suggest that there is a historical inevitably but down wards trends we can make changes to.
Edit: spelling
I have absolute confidence in the US prowess because of its overcapacity of propaganda.
"If people want housing to be more affordable, you'd think they would be against green belts, instead of tying themselves to trees"
No, most of them just start noticing that there's a housing shortage because of the millions of people being imported into Britain. But, when they object to that, the Establishment says "Racist!" or "lalalalala, not listening".
Exactly. The establishment just wants their asset bubble at any cost.
Don't forget the selling off of public housing, a right wing idea.
Good points, articulated accurately and succinctly.
Time for a positive message for youngsters to commit to with passion and resolve; purpose and vision.
The West has any number of things it needs to improve - we fall so sort of our professed ideals in so many ways. But this never meant that out autocratic opponents, those who envy and fear the democratic accountability, the transparency and human rights we aspire to - are in any fashion better than us.
"...it's not particularly a cheerful moment in world history", but considering the real world, not just the West, for many it seems it is.
Niall's wife (during her talk about Islam spreading like cancer) mentioned last week that she lives in the U.S., so she and Niall have already abandoned Europe because they see that the stage if set for sharia, which is why 95% of the invading migrants are young muslim men of military fighting age.
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That's not why they're coming in; traitors & insidious ingrate interlopers are why.
She has lived in the US for nearly two decades after she left the Netherlands
@@lawrencefrost9063 You do realise that this issue has been going on for decades. The OP has a fair point that people with the means have run to the US where they can pontificate on our problems but as always it will be the working class men that fix this disaster and it will be bloody.
I was in high school (state) 1979-84. Our history stopped after WW1. I asked why we didn't cover WW2 at the time and was merely told "we don't cover that".
Agreed with Niall. I have thought, particularly recently as we watch the 'decline' of the West, that the democratic free enterprise West by its very foundational principles, has the capacity for repair and regeneration. Therefore the cyclical expected decline is not on.
What we need to understand is that the ruling class in academia, media, NGOs, government administrations , politics have as an agenda their wealth power and prestige and are destroying everything with their narcissism and hubris.
It is the myth of "democratic free enterprise," which got us here. We choose between two political parties, but they all represent the same global agreements so nothing changes whichever is in power. In my country's last census we see what decades of mass immigration the people didn't want does to democracy. If you are not a recent immigrant you are a minority and your vote doesn't matter. So our democracy is controlled by others and only goes as far as choosing between two globalist puppets.
I tried to reply it might come back
I see two problems in my country with "democratic free enterprise."
The first is that voting means choosing between two parties with the same policies, so nothing really changes, they've all made the same global agreements which is what really matters to them.
The second is the long term effects of mass immigration on democracy. Our census shows that if you are not a recent immigrant your vote doesn't matter, as you are now a statistical minority.
Your enterprises neither regenerate nor repair. They sustain because of the government debt. They can't even keep the EV industry ahead.
“Historians are notoriously bad at predicting the future.” - Marshall Eakin at Vanderbilt University.
VERY. My European and German history prof predicted the return and resurgence of antisemitism and Jew Hate...from the Right!
Well, I don't agree. It's about taking responsibility. How is, that so many young people grow up in a very difficult circumstances and still overcome fear and doubt, and overwin huge obstacles? And make a world to a better place. For themselves and for others.
5:09 ROFLMAO, no major economic problems, none whatsoever... thanks for stating this so early, saved me from wasting time on the rest of this nonsense.
Great discussion. I have a comment relative to young (and many older) people not really knowing what unfreedom is. I am a 76 year old American living in Kherson, Ukraine throughout the war. This has included the initial battle for the city, Russian military occupation, a stint in military detention and interrogation, liberation and the subsequent 18 months of daily bombardment from the Russians on the left bank. I agree with Mr. Ferguston that we (Americans, British, etc.) are not fully appreciative of the freedoms (not perfect or really that good in many respects) that we have by world or historical standards. Again, great discussion and keep up the good work.
I've become a huge fan of Dr. Ferguson and am watching with great interest in the new university, UATX, in which he is a founding professor.
Is this the same Neil Ferguson that declared the Pandemic at the start?
When you really examine an unfree totalitarian society, a lot of the "oppression" supposedly happening in the US seems fairly petty.
Niall is a class act; informed, educated, moderate, pragmatic and able to communicate complexity without pomp and superiority.
Artificially increasing the population via mass migration ruins the environment and the economy (too many consumers chasing too few resources). After the Great Plague of the Middle Ages, which reduced the total population of Europe by a massive 1/3, living standards for the poor improved and workers were able to organize trade unions for the first time ever! If the total population in Britain was 1 million native Brits, each Brit would enjoy an extremely high standard of living! Britain is heading towards massive pollution and overpopulation, incl. housing & food shortages.
I have seen environmental damage in Australia from the same cause. I grew up thirty minutes drive from a capital city. We lived on dirt roads with acre yards. The yards had koalas, echidnas, possums and all sorts of reptiles everywhere, living quite happily.
Due to immigration today it is four lanes of asphalt and a concrete jungle of high density housing. The koala is officially extinct in the wild in the region, and the other animals are gone.
Freedom isn't free a wise man opined!
Fine perspective on the role of history in helping shape our future
Talks like this and Steve Bannon(Gbn interview) really help a lot to cast vision vs despair
Did you know that Steve Bannon has an employer?
He is gofer for Robert Mercer, the hedgefund owner behind Cambridge Analytica, Brexit & Trump.
Im currently reading Niall fergusons book, the ascent of money , it's a captivating read
that's worrying
@@alanhat5252 why would that be worrying? Its a book on the history of money , and its quite interesting
The Documentary show he did of it was as well
There are no solutions. Only compromise...
American here. From my perspective, the failure of previous generations is not indicated by the failure of schools to teach about Hitler (as the youth seemed to compulsively identify disagreement as fascism) but rather a lacking and understanding of the shared roots of fascism and communism. As a result it feels as though my generation avidly avoided Nazism to such an extent that we are witnessing their allegiance to what they perceive to be the polar opposite, communism.
Understanding the utopian inclination and religious impulse that gives it weight can prevent delusions of both strong men and synthetic unity.
Americans need to have an understanding that our system is intended to distribute the processing power needed to run a country, rather than entrusting a dictator of one variety or another who can appeal to their simplistic pursuit of virtues without nuance.
We're not facing "decline", we're facing COLLAPSE. Either by war or by economics - most likely both.
Pedantism.
One does not "Collapse" upwards.
...and all the hedgefunds will make their fortunes.
Young people are concerned, they are just powerless to do anything about it. The top down corruption is so systemic an dentrenched that there are nolonger any avenues for recourse.
"Not a particularly cheerful moment" is a delightful smile inducing comment.
No. West is forever!
This is the end of history.
LOL.
Indeed it was the end of history. Western history. History will in future be written by Asia, China foremost among them.
One of my childhood memories (which I understood a LOT better when I reached adulthood and learned my history) was going to my mother and asking her "Mommy why is Grandma (who lived next door and I and my younger brother had the run of both houses) crying all the time and saying 'September 1939' a lot?" When I grew up and learned my history I understood why - she was 'crying all the time' in October 1961 and we lived in Canada's largest seaport only two hours north of the United States' biggest aircraft company and understood as a young adult that we would be ground zero in any war.
global world debt to gdp in 1973 was 20% and now its over 300%...
Yes, and the one that will bring the US down.
Would our debt be a problem, when we created the fresh money/credit ourselves,
borrowed it by our selves,
payed it back to our selves and payed the interest to our selves,
like we did in so much glorious times and countries?
OK, most of these brilliant, people-loving leaders (f.ex.Qaddafi) were assassinated
or/and their countries destroyed,
so that our politicians tend to follow the brutal rules of the money-masters,
without questioning their dictatorship.
Coincided with the US coming of of gold backed currency...
He is so right. I can link myself wirh what he said as a Chinese moved to this country in my later 20s. Both my children were Gen Z, born and grown up here. I kept telling them UK is one of most equal, tolerance and kind society in the world. While they want this society better, do not loss sight of a bigger picture. Those dictators are happy to see democratic coutries weaker.
Soft soaping the issues we are facing
Nobody "rigged" the housing market. The planning system + immigration did that slowly over 50 years.
What about the Banksters??
the housing market - this is an inflated financial bubble
@@shankerram6076 As you oblivious to reality and love silly labels that prevent anyone dealing with anything seriously; the "banksters" are not the problem. The "banksters" are a product of the fractional reserve banking system, Govt. fiat currency, Govt. national debt issuance and Central banks fiddling with interest rates. Put food out for rats and you get rats.
@@НадяЦве́ткова-р7э No it isn't. It's 70 years of undersupply because of Government regulation through the Town and Country Planning Act, central planning and environmentalism which is the silent thief that has stolen away millions of peoples chance to own affordable homes.
You don't think manipulating the planning system is rigging the housing market?
The question for Niall is how does he map his seasonal beard cycle.
Thanks for the video, I’m going to get his book
History and 20 century honest history is required to help the younger generation
The fact that we're speaking about it, means that theres something wrong‼️
Finally someone talking about the looming fiscal crisis!
Thanks!
Excellent conversation. 16:17 Konstantin forgets, not being a believer himself, the lack of values and life goals, which creates nihilism, and the need for life goals which draws the young into radicalism
Any chance of ARC putting its talks like this onto a podcast for easier listening.
It’s all crumbling before our eyes. What you have now is lawlessness.
Major wars are completely random. Really?!
Unity is important, which makes the economic war the Europeans have waged against Australia with their punitive trade embargo all the more perplexing. Just what is the intellectual deficit in Europe that insists on their trading with Russia but prohibits trading with Australia for the same products?
Alternatively, why not extend the Five Eyes beyond military security into the economic sphere? Within the West, it’s the Anglosphere and the Continentals that are the two main blocs. We might as well consolidate our own faction.
@@iangeraldking Exactly. The Europeans are beneath our contempt, and as disunity is what they want, let them have it.
Didn't think the USA had any 'allies' these days.... they seem to be more 'slaves' or countries that have been coerced.
And whose fault is it that China has grown so much?
I was asking this exact question to my dad about 30 years ago.....
China has grown because of the hard work and sacrifices of its people combined with the good governance of its government.
China used to be the richest nation on earth for thousands of years up until the British showed up and f Ed them up in the Opium wars, following by a bunch of other Western Imperialist countries who showed up like locusts and gang graped China for 100 years up until 1947.
Now they are just going back to their natural place in human history, the top, followed by India which also used to be one of the richest regions on earth for millenniums
It is Western hegemony that is an aberration in human history and now History and Nature is auto correcting itself
@@danwelterweight4137What a bunch of crap? China’s growth has been handed to it on a silver platter by the West.
@@danwelterweight4137 You just described how every economy "grows" using the economic system we have.
Hard work and sacrifices.
Yes
The west, however, has been the greatest innovator and it grew massively for ages because they/we were so so far ahead of the rest of the world. Western hegemony was achieved through that AND hard work. No aberration at all. The west has been fantastic and deserved hegemony 100%.
China didn't. They did not innovate for so so long and were always extremely protecive in terms of keeping everything within China.
Ergo, they fell behind.
Then a few decades ago, they opened themselves up.
So with western company greed and costs spiralling because things had gotten so good, and in an aim to get the most out of the littlest amount put in, they opened up trade with the world (globalisation) and primarily China. They took advantage of the really cheap labour and production costs.
Moving almost ALL production to China they did away with the fundamentals of a real growing economy... Production and underconsumption.
Western countries stopped producing and carried on consuming.
And to top it off they thought that fuelling it all by debt would be a good idea... which it clearly isn't... but try telling some economists that.
Doing this should have been obvious from very early on.
Put simply, had the west been more restricted on their "globalisation" and not made China the "workshop of the world", China's economy would not have been able to explode the way they did.
There is no "rightful place" and China too will follow the exact same path and decline at some point. NOW is just their time to be on top.
So to go back to my original point.... it's the west that unrestrictedly let China out of the box and it was clear from early on... so it's stupid for the west to complain.
@@danwelterweight4137Persia similarly was a "great power" for a very long time.
These countries have very long histories of science, mathematics, medicine & trade which the West has taken & claimed as its own.
I'd recommend podcast with prof. Richard Wolff (economic updates/ global capitalism) where you'll find out answers to your questions and more, if you're interested in geopolitics and global economy.
Excellent insights
Fergy has been drifting even further right
That's because the Left are slowly undermining our values and making the youth cynical of everything we do
He is still a neoliberal though.
You can't oppose something with nothing. I wrote an essay "Systematic Individualism" which explains why Individualism is the only just basis of society. The more freedom (less government regulation) individuals enjoy, the more just is society. All decisions must be based upon mutual individual consent (will) for society to be just.The true sociological/measurement is individualism vs. elitism. Left vs. Right is an artificial constuct developed for the benefit of the left (collectivists.)
I needed to watch this video with guess speaker Niall Ferguson twice to fully appreciate the evasive answers to what were clearly very direct and pressing issues currently affecting us all in the U.S. How does the song go, I'm your private dancer, well folks this guy just won't dance for us. You don't have to live in the U.S. very long to realize that the threats to our freedoms and liberties don't come from Russia, Iran, North Corea, nor China. In this world it's been a common practice of stablished regimes to cast blame on external sources beyond a country's own borders in an attempt to totally deflect responsibility for enacting government policies and prerogatives that seriously erode the freedoms and liberties of their people. The real problems facing us all in the U.S. like the loss of morality, fractured national identity, dwindling opportunities to have a family, governed not according to the prerogatives of the people, government taxation and expansion, etc., are all the doings of people in positions of power and authority. As Americans we're very much aware, being on the receiving end, of the consequences of government policy makers that condone the breakdown of safety measures such as safe and secure borders, the division of the nuclear family, alternative lifestyles, social aggravators like drugs and alcohol, etc. All of these things are happening to Americans for no other reason than because internal strife and turmoil creates bountiful opportunities for people in positions of power and authority to chip away a little bit more from your freedoms and liberties. That's right folks, as intended instead of living in a harmonious and rewarding American society we're instead being fed a steady diet of problems and never-ending crisis that are all without exception manmade. So, I ask, what gives, are we as American people masters of our own destiny as proclaimed in the Constitution of the United States of America, or have we all become no different and no better than citizens from Russia, Iran, North Corea, and China? ReneB, Florida.
Civilizational collapse: Even if you take his Draconian forecasts with a pinch of salt, Peter Zeihan makes the compelling point that China's looming demographic collapse adds credence to Niall's point that the PRC might be the most likely candidate for civilizational crisis or collapse than its Western rivals. Same for Russia.
Zeihan is one of those clowns who have been making China collapse predictions for years. China is capable of long term planning unlike most countries. They are building automated factories that work in the dark for example.
One can hope...
I don't think China is a civilized country, the Chinese eat dog meat, they are the largest consumer of dog meat in the world, they just return to barbarism
Its global because of how interconnected the world is and how everyone relies on another economically. We also have a system that requires infinite growth to sustain itself and by growth I mean people and we are not going to have that any more. Global fertility is now at or slightly above replacement and is trending downwards everywhere. There might not be a civilization collapse but it happens it will be preceded by population collapse.
Im worried that democracy allows venting of anger but it seems that is being undermined by corrupting the election process
Seems? There is not a shadow of doubt that elections are corrupted!
The US can't support NATO anymore
Such a great historian
The West is facing decline because of what the West is doing. Its nothing to do with other countries somehow conspiring in an Axis of whatever The state of the West is down to Western Culture Western ideology and the Socioeconomic political system it has spawned. It was the West that allowed itself to be over run by immigrants, its the West that decided it had to do Net Zero, its the West that suddenly decided that Men could become Women and anyone who disagreed was a bigot and it was the West that decided banking and finance was more important that actually making real things and service and it was the West that decided to export all its manufacturing off shore and thereby destroy its own industrial scientific and technology base. The West Buttfracked itself no one else
Cuckoos in the Nest.
Why not both? Seriously. Even if we stopped all our own nonsense on a dime starting tomorrow morning, we would still be under attack.
See _World, history of._
Very well put
I couldn’t have said it better! 🇺🇸👍❤️
I'm definitely with No all rather than the doom mongers who I'm really bored with. They really can't know how bad other countries are. If people can't buy houses, it's not ok but not the end of the world. Other things need to change and can change.
Civilisations fall due to economic factors , and a failure by leaders to do anything about it soon enough. Also a lack of vision and falling apart of what empires used to stand for in their hay days.
You've piqued my curiosity, what did empires stand for in their heydays?
Can you distinguish a few specific examples of empires?
I hate the idea, that societies cyclically go down.
But there are old sayings like:
"A new war normally can only start,
when most of the participants of the last war died of."
or,
"Bad times make good men,
good men make good times,
good times make bad men
bad men make bad times."
Decline is never inevitable? No Empire lasts forever. Niall Ferguson keeps drinking the Kool-Aid.
Which empire are you talking about?
@@andimandi-ip8yq Any empire big or small has always fallen. Even Charlie Munger said we should accept China's rise as inevitable.
@@epicphailure88why?
Anytime any of these people say "we" what they mean is other people and their money.
Ho ho ho.
Not to mention global agreements
When I see TV shows like 'Home Town' on HGTV I see hope. Displaying good family values and strong male role models supporting their partners and community.
9:17 The Roman empire in the west collapsed very quickly because their elites no longer believed in their generals occupying northern Europe. It kept costing more money than retreived from it. Then Constantin decide to move the capital to Byzantium. Later named after him. They simply did not receive money anymore to support their armies. And ruling from Rome no longer was applicable.
The new power Islam controlled paper. And Rome ran on laws written on papyrus that was no longer available. Ergo, unlike the Byzantines, Rome fell to Islam -- until their fates reversed most of a millennium later.
No, it was about trade in general. Constantinopel was right in de middle of trade on the Mediterranian.
Byzantine also controled Egypt, so the papyrus narrative does not hold ground. Pure fantasy.
Constantin already adopted Christianity. So also the religious argument involving a millenium does not hold ground.
Constantin wanted to upgrade the barbarian cultures in the north using Christianity. Which was a peace culture and not one of revenge like Islam. Because their culture did not even involve money or well organized trade.
By itself religion had nothing to do with it. The Romans were technocrats.
@@Orson2uRome fell well before Islam was ever a thing.
@@Orson2uthe split of Rome predates Islam. Read a book!
While the contexts differ vastly, the Ming dynasty's demise due to peasant uprisings fueled by grievances, external threats from Manchu invaders, eroding central authority, economic woes like inflation and debt, as well as military weaknesses parallels some of the challenges the U.S. currently faces - from social unrest driven by inequality and polarization, to geopolitical rivalries, concerns about government gridlock and national debt, supply chain disruptions and inflation, as well as the need for military modernization. The Ming's collapse serves as a historical example of how internal divisions, external pressures, institutional decline, fiscal issues, and military vulnerabilities, if left unaddressed, can potentially undermine even the mightiest of powers.
You explain why the demise of the Ming dynasty but the subject matter is why civilization falls. China dynasties came and gone but the Chinese civilization continues - it is essential to differentiate between dynasty and civilization. Niall has not explained the reasons for the continuation of the Chinese civilization.
This content strikes me as one of the most pronato alternative content that I've seen in the last tow years, here in the south we dont trust you very much and without us you can fight back the BRICS. good luck and God bless you !!
The thumbnail says "Decline is not Inevitable". Sadly that statement is too late - decline commenced years ago. The job is to stop it, and reverse it.
Wait. That's the old 2 Bears studio in LA, isn't it?
Too many young people have studied unproductive subjects, so the national wealth isn't there to share, and it cannot be regained: the
time, the opportunity, has been missed but, according to them, they have better thinking.
That needs to be included in their assessment of their assets.
Shame on those encouraging them to do that, rd without explaining all the choices available.
Its hard to remove current events with history. We're lost , couple generations might change it.
How can we prosper and defend with green obsession.. oil and steel makes industry and weapons
Good about time that nonsense got put aside.
Well, the most important thing is, I think, communication. At the end, it's allways growing disturbances of any kind, whatever, who smash the biggest, in the need of better word, "social machineries", "social constructions". It starts in the families.
Good discussion….. 19:52
Konstantin is a comedian??? Really? How, er, is that career path going?
Semper Fi
He is quite good chechk his routine out
By thinking in a simplistic, reductionist dual manner-us, the democracies, and them, the autocracies-Niall Ferguson seems unable to engage in meaningful theorizing within the evolving context of our contemporary world. Moreover, it appears he ideologically refuses to acknowledge the new world order emerging before our eyes. Consequently, he is a historian who is outdated by history.
Instead of "Queers for Palestine," how about "Queers to Palestine."
Niall yes well research but still an academic could be a stooge for UK Government bit syop ish
I have always taken cyclical to mean things rise and fall in (retrospectively) somewhat predictable patterns, like inflation trends up for a while, then down, repeat. Or population goes up, them down, repeat, and so on. Not sure Niall refutes this. It is certainly not linear or progressive.
Climbing Parnassus is a response to this situation, and Simmons identifies the reason for it: We have abandoned classical education and we have paid a high price for doing so. We no longer know what past civilizations valued; we educate our students not knowing what ‘ideal’ human beings we hope will be the result of that education; we have assumed that the transfer of cultural ideals-civilization-will be automatic; we have forgotten that education involves the cultivation of individuals (as Andrew Kern sets forth in his talk The Contemplation of Nature, that children are souls to be nurtured, not products to be measured); and rather than educating our students well in select areas, strengthening their skills and deepening their maturity, we have tried to cover too many subjects and we have covered them poorly. In fact, we have formed students whom C.S. Lewis describes in The Abolition of Man as ‘men without chests.’ Even though published in the mid 1940s, Lewis identifies a result of modern education which Simmons recognizes has come to fruition.
Not inevitable but probable
This is very encouraging
Haha
Young students seeing how is it like leaving under Israeli 🇮🇱 occupation
Oh really the babies are occupiers? We all get to live under Islam yes
The old empires of Persia and Rome were both far more advanced than this wacky woke monstrosity we currently must know
US debt servicing has overtaken US defense spending: For the first seven months of fiscal year 2024, which began last October, net interest payments totaled $514 billion, outpacing defense by $20 billion. Budget analysts think that trend will continue, making 2024 the first year ever that the United States will spend more on interest payments than on national defense
Not defence. War.
He's looking at the wrong history books.
Curious if Ferguson ever speaks to anyone in GenZ. As a parent of two of them, they are smarter and more connected to the world than I was at their age.
Most young people are not far left enviro crazy hamas supporters..only the privileged ones
Most young people will move left because their generation holds very little wealth in society. Think French Revolution vibes.
Instead of "Queers for Palestine," how about "Queers to Palestine."
"Trips to North Korea" is a terrific idea. Ten-years-long trips.