Facing the 4 greatest challenges to the West | Niall Ferguson

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  • @geridannels1701
    @geridannels1701 11 місяців тому +22

    I have learned more watching these lectures and learned more than i did going to school for 9 years

  • @chris-tfs9074
    @chris-tfs9074 Рік тому +31

    Mr Ferguson is a BRILLIANT speaker what a privilege to have attended the ARC Conference London 2023 ... incredible!,🙏❤️🙏

  • @wellnone9367
    @wellnone9367 Рік тому +30

    Civilisations will always come and go, but this obvious degeneration is, completely, down to our OWN behaviour, and our own laziness and self-wish fulfilment.

    • @rashone2879
      @rashone2879 Рік тому

      All civilizations decline and fall due the destructive actions of people.

  • @phyllislovelace8151
    @phyllislovelace8151 Рік тому +6

    Thank you one and all

  • @Lucida1818
    @Lucida1818 Рік тому +8

    8:16 End the politicisation of Education!! This must be fundamental to our succession planning.

  • @kimj5037
    @kimj5037 9 місяців тому +2

    Niall really is brilliant. I just wish more Canadians would heed his wise words. The majority of people just keep saying, "govern us harder". They really don't seem to appreciate the freedoms we have.

  • @Amanda-yf7vj
    @Amanda-yf7vj Рік тому +12

    😢 we have all the degeneration you describe. God save us all!

  • @gerrytyrrell1507
    @gerrytyrrell1507 11 місяців тому +3

    Love listening to Niall ...Dublin

  • @nancybartley4610
    @nancybartley4610 Рік тому +21

    Students reporting professors may have begun in our K-12 system in the US. The date for this insidious process is not clear, but it was firmly established as a practice by the nineties. Here is a simple example: a first grader tells his parent the teacher said or did something, and the parent runs to the principal to complain. The teacher, in most cases, has never heard from or met this parent. (Principals work "at will" which means the district office can fire them without explanation.) The principal supports parents in order to protect his or her job. In situations like this children learned very quickly that complaining was easy and powerful.
    When I first went into teaching, I frequently heard veteran teachers explain what seemed on the surface a very simple change in the relationship between teachers and parents. They explained that parents previously supported a teacher's authority in the classroom but this changed. Does the decline in the respect for the rule of law that Professor Ferguson mentions have its origins in our children's earliest experiences in classrooms across the country? When, where and why did the inclination of liberal students to report "offenses" of professors at the college level begin?

    • @artemirrlazaris7406
      @artemirrlazaris7406 Рік тому

      CHild social services screwing over familes from lying children. -.-~ adults causing more problems seems what experimental idiots do to nations, lol

    • @edwoodsr
      @edwoodsr 11 місяців тому

      Since you are a teacher, you know kids are learning sponges, they soak it up. They learn how to get rewards and avoid punishments. Be careful out there.

    • @ericferre
      @ericferre 11 місяців тому +1

      @edswood that was the point, kids learn to manipulate and cheat because the sistem teach it

    • @davidwell686
      @davidwell686 11 місяців тому +2

      My son's had a different problem. A student with some sort of mental problems. reported that 33 student bullied him. The Teacher reported it to the Principal who had those 33 students brought in for questioning. One of which was for the student to sign a form admitting to saying something that might have offended the student. THE PARENTS WERE NOT CALLED DESPITE THESE STUDENTS BEING UNDER THE AGE OF 18. Why did the teacher and principal question the student who accused 33 other students? Why take his word for it knowing he had mental issues. So after one of the parents found out from their child, she was also a lawyer, she went into the school and laid down the law to them. Wham. The student that made up the story confessed he lied. What happened to him? Nothing. What about those 33 students? "Oh, just go back to class, nothing to see here. And what about the paper trail against those innocent students? Tossed out? Nope. Filed away. So It goes both ways.

    • @nancybartley4610
      @nancybartley4610 11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidwell686 That fits with my observation even though you might not think so. The student you described was most likely in special ed. They receive special attention and get away with a great deal. Your explanation of no consequence is exactly what I saw over and over and over. This is the kid who will do as he pleases as an adult because there never was a consequence. What parents don't realize is how often this occurs and how much it impacts the quality of education other students receive. Kids like this run the classroom environment. Special Ed is very, very draining of educational funds. Everyone deserves a good education. Regular education suffers at the expense, not just in dollars, because of special attention given to anyone with special needs. It so perfectly fits the victimhood paradigm we have created in society at large.

  • @demahinson6676
    @demahinson6676 Рік тому +2

    Liberty yes!

  • @fultoneth9869
    @fultoneth9869 Рік тому +3

    Powerful as expected.

  • @veritas.liberabit
    @veritas.liberabit Рік тому +2

    Niall, your thorough analysis of the current state of liberal democracy globally provides a crucial perspective on the contemporary geopolitical and social challenges. Your focus on the rise of illiberal democracies and autocracies highlights a significant trend often overlooked in public discourse. Your concern about internal divisions within countries like the United States underscores a critical weakness in the fabric of modern democracies, threatening the very foundations of these systems.
    However, I would like to add that while your analysis sharply illuminates the threats and weaknesses of liberal democracies, it's also important to recognize the resilience and adaptability of these systems. Democratic institutions have overcome numerous challenges in the past and have the potential to do so in the future. Additionally, the role of technology and digitalization in shaping citizen participation and transparency is something that could be explored further. This might open new avenues for strengthening democratic processes and counteracting authoritarian tendencies.
    Your point about the depoliticization of education is particularly significant. Creating an education system that fosters critical thinking and values a diversity of perspectives is vital for nurturing the next generation of informed, engaged citizens.
    Finally, the complexity of these challenges requires a multidisciplinary approach and the involvement of various societal groups, including politicians, academics, business leaders, and citizens themselves. It's crucial that we collaborate to defend the principles of freedom, justice, and equality that underpin liberal democracy.

    • @sciagurrato1831
      @sciagurrato1831 11 місяців тому +2

      “Multidisplinary approaches”… bla bla academic bla bla bla

  • @Maria-qn6fe
    @Maria-qn6fe Рік тому +7

    Wow! This is outstanding! Thank you! 👏👏👏

  • @pelu1015
    @pelu1015 11 місяців тому +2

    Enlightening.

  • @msomayya2828
    @msomayya2828 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely 😢

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 11 місяців тому +6

    In the United States the oath of office warns its people about "all enemies, foreign and domestic." They seems to had forgotten about its domestic enemies.

  • @-miekeb-
    @-miekeb- Рік тому

    Thank you and Greetings 👋

  • @collintrytsman3353
    @collintrytsman3353 11 місяців тому +1

    well said Niall

  • @user-bt8vn3dj6o
    @user-bt8vn3dj6o 11 місяців тому

    Great speach!

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 Рік тому +4

    The enemy of liberty-minded democracy, is authoritarian bureaucracy.
    In liberty-minded democracy, epistemological strategies like free markets, free speech, free elections, free press, and the like are protected by government. Information flows into decisions where everyone's experience participates.
    In authoritarian bureaucracy, insufficiently informed experts credentialed by ideologically distracted institutions, wield coercive government power for financial gain, prestige, or simple desire to dominate others. History is replete with the disasters wrought by these clowns, the monstrous creation of Covid-19 and the disastrous reaction to its spread, being only the most recent.
    This cannot help but demoralize human beings subjected to it. Free us from the shackles of these petty bureaucrats, and we will come roaring back, building a civilization we can be proud of.

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger733 11 місяців тому

    The point is, we want freedom - and democracy does not automatically deliver that.

  • @AT-os6nb
    @AT-os6nb Рік тому +3

    great start to ARC..... Thankyou Jordan Peterson and all the others involved in bringing this alliance to the world. This (ARC) is what we desperately need. Genuine facts and leadership. Now it is up to us, the public, to do our part. Spread the word, help grow the "Alliance for Responsible Citizenship", and do YOUR part to help bring about a better more positive world for all of humanity. Put an end to the distopian vision offered by the elites of Davos and the WEF gang. Bring individual Freedom and responsibility back to the forefront of a free and prosperous society. Thankyou.

  • @olegsmirnof5525
    @olegsmirnof5525 10 місяців тому

    Really strong

  • @Jules-Is-a-Guy
    @Jules-Is-a-Guy Рік тому +1

    Ferguson for President.

  • @Mukuljawlajaat
    @Mukuljawlajaat Рік тому +4

    To these people Democracy is only acceptable if it elects leftwing progressives while the election of RW conservatives is somehow threatening to democracy.
    Giving the example of India in that respect was quite weird.
    Mr. Ferguson should read the about of the methodology of these democracy and freedom rating NGOs use to arrive at their conclusions. He would be flabbergasted at the level of skulduggery they do.
    Also people like Mr Ferguson complain about the overreach of progressives in western countries but somehow want these same progressives to rule other democracies like India.

  • @anderarmould
    @anderarmould 11 місяців тому +2

    Talking of Liberty when "the barbarians are PAST the gates" isn't a winning formula.

  • @johnlaudenslager706
    @johnlaudenslager706 10 місяців тому

    Back in the day when US basic and higher education was good(?), lets say in the 1900's, if a student said they believed there was no god, or Christianity was a con, they would have been booed, shamed, shuned, or physically hurt. Students have never been free to say whatever they believed.

  • @UNCHART3DGAMING
    @UNCHART3DGAMING Рік тому +5

    Stop cutting cheques and cut off endowments - shut it down and offer an alternative for parents such as non union charter schools as suggested by Dr Thomas Sowell

  • @osnaz075
    @osnaz075 11 місяців тому

    West is done simple..now is time fot East and South..time is change..

  • @maorthekinglong
    @maorthekinglong 8 місяців тому

    Please wake up your children. I wish they will never get what they wish for.

  • @LeviOtieno
    @LeviOtieno 11 місяців тому +1

    What do you mean? Nothing can get as political as education really 😊

  • @mike9512
    @mike9512 Рік тому +4

    Overall I feel like he made some good points. My main issue, and it's the same issue with a lot of Peterson stuff, is they talk about how individual rights as being the most valuably treasured thing in society. Yet I'm always thinking "yes, but have you met people before?" Because we can be mean, hateful, stupid, selfish, naive and a whole laundry list of other stuff. That is why we have those rules in the first place, we're not good a lot of the time. Picking which rules to use is hard, but I don't think the solution is let people do and say whatever they want, and it feels like that is what they are arguing for sometimes.

    • @andrewthomas695
      @andrewthomas695 Рік тому +2

      Well said. Some of what was said did verge on utopian.

    • @ericferre
      @ericferre 11 місяців тому +2

      I think you got it backwards.
      He talks actually how society has saturated the narrrative with rights rights and more right.
      But what gives live meaning is responsibility .

    • @mike9512
      @mike9512 11 місяців тому

      @@ericferre These discussions are always tough online as it's tough to convey the nuisance inherent in this conversation.
      But I would say, for 1, I think there are a lot of things that give life meaning, responsibility isn't any higher than others. It doesn't make it less important, but it shouldn't be held on a pedestal above all else.
      And 2, It really feels like responsibility, in this context, is being used as a way to deflect actual responsibility. It's essentially people saying "I don't have to be responsible because you have to be. I can do whatever I want and I can say whatever I want, and if hurts someone else that's just too bad. I don't have to give a shit, they just need to be 'responsible'." Okay, but we live in a society. We have rules for a reason. That's what a society is. It's being responsible for how one's actions and words impact others, even when it makes you wrong.
      And responsibility, again, how he's using it, isn't doing that in my opinion. It's an excuse people use to not have to be responsible for the consequences of their words or actions.
      But again, this is a 12-minute clip. He's been vague because he has to be. I'm in school, so I don't have the time to read this guys books to know exactly what he means, but that is my impression.

    • @ericferre
      @ericferre 11 місяців тому

      @@mike9512 The thing is, you dont.
      YOu dont have the responsabilities to take care of the world.
      You don't even have to take care of your kids
      Yout DONT HAVE TO BE A GOOD PERSON.
      Because, yes, i have looked at people. And really, I dont give a shit, why should I?
      WEll, the answer is explained by Peterson, if I really am a bad person, good luck for me justifiyng my suffering.
      what would be my life worthwhile? well, sex, drugs, money, women..
      let's take what I can and fuck the others.
      or..
      I identify with someone who is responsible and choose to take care of my kids
      Sorry you know you are right, it is really hard to speak in the internet I dont even remember the context of the 12 min clip video
      if you read this, blessings.
      peace and prosperity

    • @stephenpowstinger733
      @stephenpowstinger733 11 місяців тому

      Having Liberty does not mean there are no rules. That would be chaos.

  • @nelsonang
    @nelsonang Рік тому

    then end public education and dismantle the department of education… what JG Machen argued for in the early 1900s…

  • @andrewthomas695
    @andrewthomas695 Рік тому +1

    I am not sure you can. Where there are people, there is politics. It's what the word means.

    • @stephenpowstinger733
      @stephenpowstinger733 11 місяців тому

      I think he really means keep leftist political theorizing out of schools and eliminate the snitch culture.

  • @k54dhKJFGiht
    @k54dhKJFGiht Рік тому +1

    Don't hate yourself for acquiescing, and settling to vote for exactly the same 2 losers that we all did in the LAST election! Instead, vote for open debate! Vote for the best! Vote for coherency and tact! Know WHO is CAPABLY running the country! Vote for RFK!

  • @rareword
    @rareword 11 місяців тому +1

    Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and don't forget the Islamic world because it poses perhaps the greatest threat of all.

  • @jlau3000
    @jlau3000 4 місяці тому

    There will always be politics everywhere. But what we need to do, or what our politics should be is to tell the truth. The truth of unfreedom- how people live a horrible oppressed life under authoritarian regimes. Anyone can think better and more clearly after they learn about this reality. Instead, right now the students are dreaming along with their teachers whose “reality” is either an abstract construction based on imagination or a product of intentionally or unintentionally brainwashed fantasy.

  • @jacobbumgardner9361
    @jacobbumgardner9361 Рік тому +5

    Education is inherently political / theological. The liberal notion of the neutral scientific perspective is a myth.

  • @tonydolton4544
    @tonydolton4544 9 місяців тому

    It will all end in tiers

  • @PatrickFerryCoach
    @PatrickFerryCoach Рік тому

    Unbelievable!

  • @sharonjames2041
    @sharonjames2041 11 місяців тому

    😤We are moving into de Multipolor World 😤FORWARDS INTO DE 4TH EVOLUTION FORWARDS 😤U ARE SAYING DUMB DOWN DE FUTURE 😤❤

  • @lefthooklansing
    @lefthooklansing 10 місяців тому

    Ferg is great but we disagree on crypto

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 11 місяців тому

    Christ divine nature for God central authority

  • @perspectiveiseverything1694
    @perspectiveiseverything1694 Рік тому +3

    Why would those in power *stop* politicizing & pushing their agenda through educating the youth w/ideologies??? 🤨
    Create the better "new" and make the old & broken, OBSOLETE.

    • @Larindarr
      @Larindarr Рік тому +1

      nothing absolutely nothing in existence is ever new. And nothing in its totality that is old is absolutely completely obsolete. There in lies the discomfort to actually see that face 1st. It's never black or white. And never as simple. It's always complex grays that require focus attention and thinking. It's never going to be that easy. ever.

  • @Dogo.R
    @Dogo.R Рік тому +4

    In what world is america "the greatest democracy"?
    In what measuring framework does it have the best policies?
    I feel to say that something has to have gone dreadfully wrong along the way in the analysis.

  • @wolandbegemotazazello
    @wolandbegemotazazello 10 місяців тому

    Don't forget to tell that to Luther and Erasmus. Niall I selectively borrow heavilly from Max Weber, and even Marx is a bright Gomer who doesn't ever seem to be nutted by reality. Cue Nick Lowe.

  • @hansweissmann_xviii6754
    @hansweissmann_xviii6754 10 місяців тому +1

    Since when is Ferguson a guru of the Collective West?! His reporting in the Middle East was appalling. The bloke is clearly a tool, yet pretends to be some kind of saint! Hypocrisy is just so di$gusting!!!

  • @warpeace3755
    @warpeace3755 11 місяців тому

    Only argument against subsidizing motherhood is that youre gonna have irresponsble reproductive rates. Yes the planet can sustain a larger population but parents only have so much time and energy, as much as there is a deficet in families staying together and having enough time energy and resources the pendulum swinging all the way to the opposite end has equally destructive repercussions. A balance should be the aim and that is much more difficult to elucidate what that looks like and acquire. I would argue maintain virginity till marriage and promote not getting married till you can afford to buy a home but we can see housing is corrupt and if housing can be used to create lower birth rates you can garauntee the corrupt will figure out a way to exploit the suggestion I just made. Thus exmplifying my point how hard finding balance really is.

  • @elsenored562
    @elsenored562 Рік тому +1

    10:20 In a poll of 18 to 24 year olds, ¼ said give Israel to "Hamas and the Palestinians".

  • @karolinaska6836
    @karolinaska6836 Рік тому

    The Fourth Turning is Here, by Neil Howe pretty much explains the cyclical nature of history and where we currently are and what's to be expected.

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount 11 місяців тому +1

    What is good about LIBERAL?

  • @wakhansharma8225
    @wakhansharma8225 9 місяців тому

    Western mindset is not changed till now 😂😂

  • @msomayya2828
    @msomayya2828 2 місяці тому

    India I think is doing fine now wedmn says no

  • @tonysouter8095
    @tonysouter8095 10 місяців тому

    Too rightwing for me; but he says many good things.

  • @dasfahrer8187
    @dasfahrer8187 Рік тому +2

    There's an easy way to tell whether the Republicans or Democrats are right. Just look at the outcome of the policies. The Democrats' policies largely turn out to be destructive to democracy and to the country as a whole, whereas the Republicans' policies are generally prosperous and good for the country as a whole.
    The Republicans always have to clean up the mess made by the Democrats, which always takes more time as repairing the damage is more difficult and time-consuming. Unfortunately people only see the "now" rather than the cause and effect, so by the time the mess gets cleaned up, the media and Democrats (which are FAR better at managing and pushing their narrative) have maliciously convinced (i.e., gaslit) the public into thinking the GOP caused the issue so the Republicans rarely stay in power for long, sadly.
    So, the Democrats take control, cause more damage that the people eventually see and come to realize the mistake they made only to repeat the cycle again and again.
    The solution is easy. Break the cycle. Stop voting Democrat.

  • @jensschirner6137
    @jensschirner6137 11 місяців тому

    Facts are clear. For many years now. What´s the plan? Who but Trump would root that out? Where is the ARC plan to push him to POTUS?

  • @Jefffrrry
    @Jefffrrry 11 місяців тому

    While I agree with most points dr. Ferguson makes here (and on many other occasions in different videos), I think the end of his speech is its weakest part, not resting on facts, but on ideals, ideology. A version of an ideal society for somebody with more conservative values. And while Tocqueville was a great man, who I believe was ahead of his time in many aspects, I am really not sure his ideas about safeguarding liberty is the most on point here - aristocracy and religion. We can do better than that 160+ years later, can't we? All this back and forth between left and right, libs and cons is tiring. And I am sorry to say that dr. Ferguson is a bit guilty of what he rightfully accuses the other side of - partisanship. I see this too often, even learned scholars whom I respect are quick to correctly pinpoint the rotten and dangeours aspects of (in this case) the left, yet not give enough rigorous scrutiny to their own side and either completely or mostly ommitt the rotten and dangerous aspects of the right.

  • @Dogo.R
    @Dogo.R Рік тому +4

    Its crazy how backwards, oversimplified, and untargeted this is.
    Wild.
    It is mostly just stating metrics but without explaining how they were conducted so therefor its meaningless.
    The direction wasnt towards how to act in the direction of hope.
    Its got tons of things backwards and insane oversimplified.
    This talk has got to be by far the least merit-based.

    • @PaulGrobler-z6t
      @PaulGrobler-z6t Рік тому

      woke idiot alert....

    • @djtan3313
      @djtan3313 11 місяців тому

      Yup

    • @interestedpart2650
      @interestedpart2650 10 місяців тому

      Leftard!

    • @garyraab9887
      @garyraab9887 9 місяців тому

      The neural networks of human primates have the wherewithal to make up stories and tell stories…tell stories for a stipend ..and this misuse of ‘free speech’, like most ‘free speech’, is mostly a one-sided unsubstantiated diatribe.
      Universal Charters of Personal Rights and Freedoms have benefits in any political system…but we cannot ignore adherence to the collective…for there is not an individual human primate on this planet that can ‘go it alone’! And when part of a collective, and we all are, we all indoctrinated by cultural dogma, some truly bizarre fabrications, no matter the form of governance…democracy or dictatorship.
      Democracies in general have legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The judicial branch and adherence to the Rule of Law has shortcomings worth investigating. The Scheme, by Sheldon Whitehouse.
      A judiciary independent of the Nation … can turn its guns on those it was meant to defend. -THOMAS JEFFERSON

  • @dannysullivan3951
    @dannysullivan3951 11 місяців тому

    Conservative boilerplate

  • @hugereductions
    @hugereductions 11 місяців тому +1

    I think, in this situation, statistics actually detract from the argument. Lies, damn lies etc