Imagine being ten years old and walking into the sword shop with Mom after convincing her to take you in and you just constantly hear some bearded guy in the corner berating everything you want to buy lmao. Love these videos
lol if i would make a fantasy game i would have a bearded guy standing in the weapon shop making recommendations on which swords are good "This sword is too heavy to wield one-handed and you can't cut your way out of wet paper even if your life would depend on it. You would have better luck buying a long piece of iron and beating your enemies over the head with it"
until you see the one Nero uses at the end of the vid with the bike throttle on it, where it would be impossible;e to actually grab and use said gimmick of the sword
Frostmourne wasn't a fair analysis. You have to be the crown prince of Lordaeron, become a Knight of the Silver Hand, proceed to slaughter an entire town full of innocent civilians, lose your soul, become a death knight and continue the slaughter and finally become the lich king before you can properly wield it. Maybe once you do that you'll see its true value and appeal.
@@rhokesh4391 😁😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 To be fair it is more like Frostmorne is the rider of a well trained and blooded war horse from a highly desireable pedegree. Or rather Ner'zhul is the rider and Frostmourne is the saddle.
Also, I'm not a huge fan of Warcraft, but have you SEEN the size of those humans? They're like pseudo-Space Marines from Warhammer 40k. The weight means nothing, the real problem is that the handle is too short for those massive hands! XD
The Halo novels account for the gap between the plasma sword blades by explaining that there's a powerful positive charge running across the gap, repelling a blade from slipping through. Sci-fi shenanigans but there ya go.
@@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806 Yeah but when they were forging the steel antiques the san shyuum were something like 5 or so years away freshly killing 80% of there homeworlds population and never intended other species to use the swords.
@@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806 If I had to justify it, a blade going down the central gap is probably going to hit the bulge between the fingers, a knuckle guard would be nice but unnecessary most of the time, the gap in the middle only becomes a huge weakness when they transition to energy weapons that could slice clean through the handle (but energy weapons have the magnetic field to account for this and may have hard technical limitations that prevent the blades from touching). Also, if a blade is going down the middle you can easily twist to bind it. I don't know, it's hard to speculate given the very different biology involved. Elites probably have a pretty atrocious range of motion given their posture, anything overhead seems like it would be difficult, but jabs and uppercuts seem viable. Their hands often seem to be farther back than their heads, so hand protection if probably a much lower priority than than binding and controlling an opponent's weapon.
I remember the old Game Theory video, and he thought it was meant for parrying, so ig I always just thought of it like that. Super cool to hear that they acknowledge it, thank you
when my father was young he saw a story on tv about two english kids around 5-7 who had a bad experience with this, the older one moving with the knife in hand blade out, turn around the door... and accidentally stabs his younger brother in the belly. Everything ended well but one of the parents said that during the drive to the hospital he had to keep pushing a rag on the younger brother belly because it seemed like part of his intestines were going out. The mental image of intestines exiting stayed with my dad ever since, knife safety was taught early in our house
At a young age, many of us were taught to walk with scissors closed and holding the metal pointed down, so if we tripped we wouldn't fall on the sharp end.
4:17 It has been said every time this sword comes up, but the gap in the blades does serve a very important purpose in the energy weapon version. The two halves of the blade require different charges to form and will short out explosively if they touch. This is one thing that makes them so devastating in the Halo-verse, the instant the blades penetrate a target they complete a circuit which adds an electrical explosion to the stab wound.
yeh that could be nasty and legit you could actually put enough juice through a metal version to do some really nasty things. I use to mess with high voltage stuff as a kid and um well don't through a hot dog on to a grid of heavy gauge wires with 800 volts at 20 amps+ :) No i wont say where i got the transformer like that i don't want other to mess with crap like that And no it is not a microwave transformer that puts out around 1 amp or less at real high voltage. The terrifying thing is just how small it actually is it id like making a first with both hands and putting them side by side and a cube shape.
I was going to say that weight of the blades wouldn't an issue but that just introduces the lightsaber problem of the weapon having the balance of a flashlight. Better keep it away from your body or anything you care about!
@@Skallagrim I'm pretty sure it won't cause money to just appear out of whatever you're cutting, though. There's probably at least a couple of steps between "cut stuff with Master Sword" and "get money." :P Would be cool to see if you can get a good functional replica, though.
Fun fact for Frostmourne at 2:33 - the redesigns for the wallhangers ADD around 60% of the clutter to it, which isnt present in the original WC3 art. Even the skulls were about two thumbs thick by proportions in the OG. Even the metal rings with on the grip are also from the WOTLK login screen and werent present on the original design/were just thin metal bands notable further in thus holding the leather/cloth/skin/fantasy bandage thing that worked as padding (AND EVEN THEN the spikes didnt become that pronounced on them till later).
@@aleksyssubmaker2745 The WC3 scourge (not remake) logo shows the details of frostmourne model cant show, it only has flat bands (which werent even metallic the entire time as one can see from old uploads of the pre patch assets on forums like the hex and hive workshop) and the spikes on the handle are fur instead. It did have a odd skull horn things on the guard still pointing back to you a bit and the arrow tip like protrusion on the pommel which are minor flaws, but not to the degree the wallhangers turn it into.
Fun video. Something most people get wrong about the Kingdom Key is that, unmodified (as in, no Keychain attached) it is more like a club than a blade to most living things. It cuts the Heartless, Nobodies, & Unversed, as beings of Darkness, very well. But against beings from the Realm of Light, it typically does less damage & more concussive/bludgeoning instead. Just look at how long it takes to whittle down ordinary people like Captain Hook, Clayton, or even Tron/Rinzler. It's also a magic weapon & conduit for magic, so swings that use magic (e.g.: Icebreaker, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder Edge) do more damage, while techniques like Sonic Blade & Ars Arcanum transform or coat the shaft in light magic, making it functionally more like a blade (lightsaber?) in motion. There are Keyblades that are far more sword-like too. But most don't use the teeth end like you did, Skal, or like an axe, as you said.
Yeah, the way a Keyblade usually swings is the teeth away from the target, functioning like a bludgeon. Although in lore, I believe explained in an Ultimania for KH2, the keyblade wielder can change the sharpness of the keyblade with their intent on the swing. Which is why Sora can cut through the skyscrapers in the Xemnas fight in KH2, but bonks regular enemies in combat. It's basically just magic, and when not being used with magic, it's a big metal key.
More so is that is the keyblade isn't a consistently solid object. It's literally a "blade" of light and/or darkness, better yet, a manifestationof will power that interacts with the world as it's wilder pleases. It's appearance is irrelevant. If you will something like the Kingdom Key, which presents as a metal rod with key teeth, to cut through something, it will cut through it.
It's fun to see Skal mess about and have fun in a store like this. I think it's lovely. I was scouring around the footage of the store to look for the Soul Reaver and the Chaoseater.
The bit with Frostmourne and the spikes on the handle make me think of Mea culpa from Blasphemous. A thorn can be equipped in the handle which carries great significance for the story and ties into the themes of penitence.
I vaguely remember a character from Owari no Seraph using a vampire sword with thorny vines which drink his blood or something. It's in the first OP (which is really good btw).
Everything else in the shop: {exists} Skallagrim: "Eww, what the heck is this thing?" Link's sword: {exists} Skallagrim: {immediately starts practising some stances, parries and cuts with it}
6:53 - "Bobby! Quick! That beaver youtube guy is dissin' all our fantasy swords on video! Go there and advertise that 'Zelda' sword he's holding right now!"
1:39 Those handle spikes would actually be perfect for a skeleton, because since they don't have flesh and couldn't rely on friction to maintain their grip, the spikes would would give the bones on their hands something to interlink with.
Except the person who uses that sword in Warcraft is essentially a corrupted/undead human in full plate armour. Not sure if he feels less pain or something when holding it though.
@@ClarkOfUK Arthas lost his soul to it the same as the people who get cut by it. Maybe just touching it isn't enough for it to claim its wielder, and the handle spikes are specifically there to create a wound for their soul to get pulled out through.
Link is not superstrong by nature, but in most games he finds a glove (or gauntlet) that makes him ludicrously strong. Not to mention being avatar of Courage makes him extremely fast learner.
he actually is super strong by nature, the "spirit of the here" aka. triforce of courage, is what grants him greater capabilities. power gives ganon raw, unrivaled power, wisdom grants zelda immense foresight and planning.@@vksasdgaming9472
@@gloving4hire How else can someone who has never held bow become master archer in number of shots that can be counted on one hand's fingers? Or master any other very difficult skillset required?
The keychains on those Keyblades are like three times as long as what they are in the games. LOL They're literally meant to be like the size of phone charms. 😂
Most art depicts the chain/charm going to the end of the guard when the keyblade is placed tip down, and reaching to about Sora’s mid thigh in a normal stance
@@EntangleMyWebs Even so, the chains on the recreations are no doubt longer than what's in-game and in art/renders lol That and these prop recreations of the two Keyblades in question, Fatal Crest and Kingdom Key, are frankly REALLY low on the quality scale in general.
God. I instantly recognised the 'Keyblade' at the start. It's a very... basic(?) try to make Fatal Crest from KH2FM. Loved that thing in game. IRL not so much
It's actually a fair assessment, and quite true. If not for those studded rings on Frostmourne's handle, it would be a bit more practical. And just so you know, in case you might not, that Rebellion 2H sword is actually a scaled down version than the real one. A smith (or metal welder as he prefers to call himself) called Irish Mike once made a full-scale version of that sword. And simply put, it was SO HEAVY. Showed that the game character had super-strength to wield it so casually.
Wallhanger Rebellion might be slightly more functional than most entirely-accurate variants of Rebellion, specifically because in most of the designs it has spikes poking out of the skull eyes pointed towards the hands.
I might be wrong on that one but i am pretty sure only DMC5 rebellion had the spikes coming out of the eyes of the skull. And only on one side if i remember correctly.
The spikes on Rebellion's in-game model are actually fairly short and offset enough that I don't think it'd be an issue. Devil Sword Dante, on the other hand, is an absolute wrist-stabber.
@@ahjeez-vc9qx Every rebelion had "horns" on just one side, the other has a normal human skull, it always kinda represented a devil/human thing going on,. the skulls on replica in the video are way to thin compared to game model, it wouldnt (probably) have a problem with wrist cuts.
Frostmourne itself, and by extension, Arthas, don't (or possibly can't) do this themselves, a very important note. Other Death Knights can, but the Lich King never pulled that move out himself. A good lore question would be is it something only 3rd Gen DKs and onwards are capable of doing, or can 2nd Gen DKs (Arthas and probably dudes like Baron Rivendare) use this ability too? I've stopped playing for a while, so can't go back and check for myself, but to my knowledge at least, 2nd Gen DKs haven't done anything like this.
@@zharyel9890 True. But I would say that if it were possible, 2nd Gen DKs probably would've probably used it at least once on screen. Up until 4th Gen, the different Generations had very distinctive differences between each other to set them apart, and this could be one of those.
0:30 Silly how could you not realize that the Keyblade is the ultimate weapon for anyone practicing the legacy systems of Lichtenauer. Weapon and technique put into one form - the perfect Zwerchcopter!
It'd be fun to watch a video series analyzing your (and viewers) favorite fantasy weapons, in a way you could show a redesign where it could be realistic, and yet keep the fantasy aesthetic to it. By the way, fun video! Great job!
Great video Skall! I love it when you break down the design flaws in fantasy designs, they actually serve quite well as education for weapon designs, that is, what not to do. I watched all of your older videos that were like this too!
In defense of keyblades and their chains. They aren't ever meant to be longer than 6 chain links at the longest as depicted by every games art and their in-game models, which is something the irl replicas constantly get wrong. So no, there should never be a risk of you smacking your nuts with the keychain unless you're doing the weirdest, literal, thrusting attack.
@@OtisCluck This is what was bothering me the whole time. He was holding it WRONG! It's the 'back' of the blade that you strike with, not the head. As you said: It's not an axe!
@@Stet709 ???? That's what we were saying. That only makes our point more true. You don't strike with the 'teeth' of the key, but the 'back'. I put those in quotation marks since it's still key-shaped and the geometry still applies.
Based on a close up of the Sangheili hand, it wouldn't be awful for them. Their fingers really are split like that, having essentially 2 thumbs on opposite ends of their palm and two fingers between them with no other digits. They wear fancy gauntlets/vambraces/whatever you want to call alien forearm armor all the time so they could have some wrist support from that. They also aren't often shown to have their wrist bend on an axis where the spikes could hurt them, and their wrists may not even articulate that way normally. It's unclear why they have two points though, since single point versions exist and function. However, I have not been able to find any comparison between the performance of dual prong versus unified energy blades so there could plausibly be a significant difference in something, possibly battery life, overheating, or cutting potential. In conclusion, it's an alien weapon for alien hands and looks fairly reasonable in the hands of its creators. We don't know enough about the internal workings to critique the design choices too much, but some of the decisions certainly seem odd.
I can get why Frostmourne can seem like it's overdesigned and a bit much, but believe me when I say that it's easily one of the more sensible designs I've seen out of Warcraft, barring the obviously more standard looking sword designs. In fact, it's even cooler because it looks like it's kind of practical for what it is. It's easily one of the coolest designs I've come across in fantasy. Sure, a lot of ornamentation, but for a cursed sword that steals souls? That's exactly what I would picture when I think of just that. Funny you mention possesed blades however.. Whilst Frostmourne itself can't animate itself to fight and shit, it does seem to have a form of sentience to it. Plus, Death Knights in Warcraft (which the dude who wields this, Arthas, is effectively the first of them) have an ability where they can animate weapons to fight for them for a short period of time. Arthas himself never does this himself, but other Death Knights can do it. Easily one of the most iconic weapons of fantasy however, and hands down *the* most iconic weapon in all of Warcraft. And hilariously, it's the most practical of the more iconic weapons from Warcraft to boot. Truly a weapon fit for a king.
I mean, its probably amongst the most reasonable fantasy swords. Even at full size, its mostly just the size and weight that immediately stand out. The indents near the point might be weird but I don't know enough to say for sure. Fitting for Dante's primary weapon, a simple longsword he uses with super strength and coordination. Then you get all the weird shit he collects during the game.
Epitome of weapon not meant for humans: Buster Sword of Final Fantasy VII and it's Remake. It is meant to arm supersoldiers who are superhumanly strong and made with magitek process.
The spiky grip parts of Frostmourne were added on in redesigns, and are often embellished for props or visuals - it WAS meant to scar the spirit, so I guess in part through the pain of gripping that handle! Though your comment about "If it was meant to fly around" does have some merit in-game - the class created by the wielder of Frostmourne, Death Knights (yeah, edgy name), do take from his abilities and weapon style and have a skill called Dancing Rune Weapon, which does have the weapon float to fight and assist you for a time without having to be held.
As a kid, that probably would've have been my favorite shop all summer long. As an adult, I wonder how they manage to pay rent with a shop full of a very specific kind of trash.
Lich King: Arthas, my champion, first of my Death Knights, it is time to forge your new armour! State your preferences, and I shall... Arthas: Big, thick leather gloves! Please! Ouch! Lich King: Oh yeah. Fair enough.
I Imagine wearing gloves in combat changes the feel and handling of a weapon in combat as well, gonna start getting slippery when the red stuff starts flying everywhere.
see thats the neat part about frostmourne! you may have to be undead to use it, but if you're alive and you DO try to use it, it'll steal your soul and MAKE you undead!
I'm relieved that the Master Sword is given the Seal of Approval. Because come on, no only is it Beautiful as a Design. It can be practical too with little issues
NGL, adding spikes to a handle so that only an undead who can't feel pain can wield it comfortably is one of the better fantasy weapon ideas I've seen.
3:04 "If this was like a possessed sword that flies around and acts on its own..." You know, you might be on to something there. When Arthas breaks it out of the ice seal thing, it sorta flies up and kills Muradin before landing. Or something. I can't actually tell what the dwarf got hit with.
I have always loved Frostmourne as Fantasy nonsense, as even as a child I knew there was too much on that sword. But that over the top edginess made it cool to me then, and it does now.
Ngl, the Keyblade designs huuurt, not only because of the bend on Fatal Crest, but the nonsense length on the chain. But eeeeey, glad to hear Rebellion and the Master Sword getting praise!
I can kind of understand the spikes on Frostmourn's hilt... The sword was like constantly devouring Arthas' soul. Maybe it was also drinking his blood or something. :) I imagine Frostmourne isn't really meant for swordfights, it's more of a sharp magic wand scepter for the Lich King...
Looking at fantasy weapons to determine their practicality as functional weapons is interesting - both fun and potentially educational. The PSA was well thought, too. It should be noted that when considering whether a weapon would be fit for purpose, its often obvious that it could (in theory) work for non-humans of various types but not for us. However, in a fantasy setting even humans may not have the same abilities and/or limitations that we do. The setting matters. A weapon that would be useless for real world humans (us) might actually be fit for purpose for them. It is probably generally true, though, that creators and designers of fictional weaponry think more about how 'cool' a weapon is, or looks, than how fit for purpose it is. 😉 My only, minor, quibble is that some of us (me, lol) might not recognise or identify all of them. A brief mention of their name and origin/world/setting would be good (e.g. Frostmourne, World of Warcraft). The names in the vid title doesn't place which name goes with which weapon, or tell us which world it comes from. I'm guessing many will know, but still ...
I'm not surprised that Rebellion and the Master Sword pass, at least relatively speaking. They're very "no frills" compared to most other fantasy swords out there, and the proportions on them aren't horrible.
So obviously the Dragonslayer from berserk is utterly ridiculous as far as realism goes (berserk fans don't at me , I love the Dragonslayer) But I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the sword Guts uses in the golden age arc. It's a lot narrower and thinner, and while it'd be heavy I think it's almost practical.
Even story itself says Dragonslayer is not a sword as it is something supposed to look like sword, but maker did not know how to make it properly. Hence it is as it is.
I love with the energy sword from Halo he actively points out the one negative that isn't even a negative. And that's the shape of the handle. He literally says "it's designed for human hands" and there's a ref pic of an elite holding it. So many people harp on the design for that reason.
No no. It is clearly a retention device for when the guard causes you to let go of the sword. Insert the ball. The moment you drop the sword you will panic, then clench, and the retention device will do its job.
Its kind of funny how they even had the audacity to put description comfortable handling on that sword when its blatantly obviously that you are not going to get comfortable handling with such a weapon.
Imagine being ten years old and walking into the sword shop with Mom after convincing her to take you in and you just constantly hear some bearded guy in the corner berating everything you want to buy lmao. Love these videos
lol if i would make a fantasy game i would have a bearded guy standing in the weapon shop making recommendations on which swords are good
"This sword is too heavy to wield one-handed and you can't cut your way out of wet paper even if your life would depend on it. You would have better luck buying a long piece of iron and beating your enemies over the head with it"
@@xelldincht4251You'd need to fix some of your tenses in your game and make sure you get the woulds out of where they don't belong.
Kid stands and listens learns choses to get a real sword becomes proficient swordsman .
The kid might assume the bearded guy will forge him a magic sword if you provide him with the materials he requests.
@@willemverheij3412 Yes.
The fact that Devil May Cry out of all things manages to have one of the most reasonable sword designs is ridiculous in its own way
I mean Dante swings Rebellion with one hand like it's nothing so there is that
until you see the one Nero uses at the end of the vid with the bike throttle on it, where it would be impossible;e to actually grab and use said gimmick of the sword
@@Quickpatch12the weird part is that Nero never uses the throttle. It acts more like a hand guard judging by how he uses it
From 2 onwards yes. Have you seen the alastor? I wouldn't call that thing reasonable 😂
To be fair that's because Skall was holding one that's like half-sized
Frostmourne wasn't a fair analysis. You have to be the crown prince of Lordaeron, become a Knight of the Silver Hand, proceed to slaughter an entire town full of innocent civilians, lose your soul, become a death knight and continue the slaughter and finally become the lich king before you can properly wield it. Maybe once you do that you'll see its true value and appeal.
Arthas didn't wield Frostmourne, it wielded him.
@@corwinhyatt519 Now I have this mental image in my head of a sword whacking people with an armored knight 😅
@@rhokesh4391 😁😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 To be fair it is more like Frostmorne is the rider of a well trained and blooded war horse from a highly desireable pedegree. Or rather Ner'zhul is the rider and Frostmourne is the saddle.
Or well... wear thick gloves like Arthas does?
Also, I'm not a huge fan of Warcraft, but have you SEEN the size of those humans? They're like pseudo-Space Marines from Warhammer 40k. The weight means nothing, the real problem is that the handle is too short for those massive hands! XD
The Halo novels account for the gap between the plasma sword blades by explaining that there's a powerful positive charge running across the gap, repelling a blade from slipping through. Sci-fi shenanigans but there ya go.
Sounds like a retrofit, but who cares. At least they have a reason.
It was also a recreation of swords they originally forged in steel, though.
@@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806 Yeah but when they were forging the steel antiques the san shyuum were something like 5 or so years away freshly killing 80% of there homeworlds population and never intended other species to use the swords.
@@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806 If I had to justify it, a blade going down the central gap is probably going to hit the bulge between the fingers, a knuckle guard would be nice but unnecessary most of the time, the gap in the middle only becomes a huge weakness when they transition to energy weapons that could slice clean through the handle (but energy weapons have the magnetic field to account for this and may have hard technical limitations that prevent the blades from touching). Also, if a blade is going down the middle you can easily twist to bind it.
I don't know, it's hard to speculate given the very different biology involved. Elites probably have a pretty atrocious range of motion given their posture, anything overhead seems like it would be difficult, but jabs and uppercuts seem viable. Their hands often seem to be farther back than their heads, so hand protection if probably a much lower priority than than binding and controlling an opponent's weapon.
I remember the old Game Theory video, and he thought it was meant for parrying, so ig I always just thought of it like that. Super cool to hear that they acknowledge it, thank you
Despite my efforts to tell her otherwise my mother keeps walking with knifes pointing straight out, I live in a constant state of dread, save me
mine does that too every time she does something in the kitchen ,i am starting to get suspicious....
Don't worry, someday you will no longer live with your mother. You just have to survive until that day comes.
@@TheRealSkeletor oh... oh no lol
when my father was young he saw a story on tv about two english kids around 5-7 who had a bad experience with this, the older one moving with the knife in hand blade out, turn around the door... and accidentally stabs his younger brother in the belly. Everything ended well but one of the parents said that during the drive to the hospital he had to keep pushing a rag on the younger brother belly because it seemed like part of his intestines were going out.
The mental image of intestines exiting stayed with my dad ever since, knife safety was taught early in our house
At a young age, many of us were taught to walk with scissors closed and holding the metal pointed down, so if we tripped we wouldn't fall on the sharp end.
4:17 It has been said every time this sword comes up, but the gap in the blades does serve a very important purpose in the energy weapon version. The two halves of the blade require different charges to form and will short out explosively if they touch. This is one thing that makes them so devastating in the Halo-verse, the instant the blades penetrate a target they complete a circuit which adds an electrical explosion to the stab wound.
Ok, that is a good reason for the design, I can't even argue with that.
ohohoh that is neat
yeh that could be nasty and legit you could actually put enough juice through a metal version to do some really nasty things. I use to mess with high voltage stuff as a kid and um well don't through a hot dog on to a grid of heavy gauge wires with 800 volts at 20 amps+ :)
No i wont say where i got the transformer like that i don't want other to mess with crap like that
And no it is not a microwave transformer that puts out around 1 amp or less at real high voltage.
The terrifying thing is just how small it actually is it id like making a first with both hands and putting them side by side and a cube shape.
I was going to say that weight of the blades wouldn't an issue but that just introduces the lightsaber problem of the weapon having the balance of a flashlight. Better keep it away from your body or anything you care about!
@@nanaki-seto This is the stuff you don't tell random people on the internet about.
A functional Master Sword? Nice.
Looked like one of the functional redesigns I've seen before. Might've been Skal, might've been Shad (before he went off the deep end).
Wish I could know for sure which one, even ones that look just like that might be functional or might be replicas
I'd love to do test cutting with a high end Master sword reproduction.
@@Skallagrim I'm pretty sure it won't cause money to just appear out of whatever you're cutting, though. There's probably at least a couple of steps between "cut stuff with Master Sword" and "get money." :P
Would be cool to see if you can get a good functional replica, though.
no energy bolts sadly
I feel so honored to have seen video evidence of the legendary "Gonad-Whacker 9000."
That was last years model.
It helps show your opponent you do not fear death
The rare but always hilarious "double sided mace" is the true gonad whacker 9000 XD
Mickey's Dick Smasher is real
Fun fact for Frostmourne at 2:33 - the redesigns for the wallhangers ADD around 60% of the clutter to it, which isnt present in the original WC3 art. Even the skulls were about two thumbs thick by proportions in the OG.
Even the metal rings with on the grip are also from the WOTLK login screen and werent present on the original design/were just thin metal bands notable further in thus holding the leather/cloth/skin/fantasy bandage thing that worked as padding (AND EVEN THEN the spikes didnt become that pronounced on them till later).
You have an appreciation of Frostmourne's evolution like I do for Maiev's armor and weaponry.
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Well, to be fair... with the WC3 graphics you couldn't really put a lot of stuff on the sword's model anyway.
@@aleksyssubmaker2745 The WC3 scourge (not remake) logo shows the details of frostmourne model cant show, it only has flat bands (which werent even metallic the entire time as one can see from old uploads of the pre patch assets on forums like the hex and hive workshop) and the spikes on the handle are fur instead.
It did have a odd skull horn things on the guard still pointing back to you a bit and the arrow tip like protrusion on the pommel which are minor flaws, but not to the degree the wallhangers turn it into.
It also was a greatsword in the original art design, then it got nerfed to a Bastard sword for the cinematics.
Fun video. Something most people get wrong about the Kingdom Key is that, unmodified (as in, no Keychain attached) it is more like a club than a blade to most living things. It cuts the Heartless, Nobodies, & Unversed, as beings of Darkness, very well. But against beings from the Realm of Light, it typically does less damage & more concussive/bludgeoning instead. Just look at how long it takes to whittle down ordinary people like Captain Hook, Clayton, or even Tron/Rinzler. It's also a magic weapon & conduit for magic, so swings that use magic (e.g.: Icebreaker, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder Edge) do more damage, while techniques like Sonic Blade & Ars Arcanum transform or coat the shaft in light magic, making it functionally more like a blade (lightsaber?) in motion.
There are Keyblades that are far more sword-like too. But most don't use the teeth end like you did, Skal, or like an axe, as you said.
Yeah, the way a Keyblade usually swings is the teeth away from the target, functioning like a bludgeon. Although in lore, I believe explained in an Ultimania for KH2, the keyblade wielder can change the sharpness of the keyblade with their intent on the swing. Which is why Sora can cut through the skyscrapers in the Xemnas fight in KH2, but bonks regular enemies in combat. It's basically just magic, and when not being used with magic, it's a big metal key.
More so is that is the keyblade isn't a consistently solid object. It's literally a "blade" of light and/or darkness, better yet, a manifestationof will power that interacts with the world as it's wilder pleases. It's appearance is irrelevant. If you will something like the Kingdom Key, which presents as a metal rod with key teeth, to cut through something, it will cut through it.
It's fun to see Skal mess about and have fun in a store like this. I think it's lovely.
I was scouring around the footage of the store to look for the Soul Reaver and the Chaoseater.
The Reaver is also ridiculous and somehow I love it in spite of that
The bit with Frostmourne and the spikes on the handle make me think of Mea culpa from Blasphemous. A thorn can be equipped in the handle which carries great significance for the story and ties into the themes of penitence.
My Guilt has excuse of being explicitly made for penance of it's wielder. It's awkward handle is there for a reason.
I vaguely remember a character from Owari no Seraph using a vampire sword with thorny vines which drink his blood or something. It's in the first OP (which is really good btw).
Everything else in the shop: {exists}
Skallagrim: "Eww, what the heck is this thing?"
Link's sword: {exists}
Skallagrim: {immediately starts practising some stances, parries and cuts with it}
The only thing that would have made it better would have been if he did Link's grunt-yells during it.
6:53 - "Bobby! Quick! That beaver youtube guy is dissin' all our fantasy swords on video! Go there and advertise that 'Zelda' sword he's holding right now!"
that was so weird... Maybe someone in the staff sent the intern as a hazing joke
The carbon steel master sword was pretty cool.
- Energy blade is completely doable for a Ninja Turtle to hold
Yep, it's clearly made for 3 fingers.
@@Skallagrimelites have four fingers and have essentially mirrored hands, with two fingers and two thumbs.
1:39 Those handle spikes would actually be perfect for a skeleton, because since they don't have flesh and couldn't rely on friction to maintain their grip, the spikes would would give the bones on their hands something to interlink with.
Except the person who uses that sword in Warcraft is essentially a corrupted/undead human in full plate armour. Not sure if he feels less pain or something when holding it though.
@@ClarkOfUKHe wears gauntlets.
@@ClarkOfUK Arthas lost his soul to it the same as the people who get cut by it. Maybe just touching it isn't enough for it to claim its wielder, and the handle spikes are specifically there to create a wound for their soul to get pulled out through.
@@ClarkOfUK True.
It's kind of funny how Link's sword is actual quite real one... Cause he is actually superstrong too. In the last games at leasr
Link is not superstrong by nature, but in most games he finds a glove (or gauntlet) that makes him ludicrously strong. Not to mention being avatar of Courage makes him extremely fast learner.
@@vksasdgaming9472why you add that head cannon at the end lol
he actually is super strong by nature, the "spirit of the here" aka. triforce of courage, is what grants him greater capabilities. power gives ganon raw, unrivaled power, wisdom grants zelda immense foresight and planning.@@vksasdgaming9472
@@gloving4hire How else can someone who has never held bow become master archer in number of shots that can be counted on one hand's fingers? Or master any other very difficult skillset required?
@@vksasdgaming9472 Hey listen!
What a throw back, Skall standing in a knife shop ranting about sword like wall hanger objects!
The keychains on those Keyblades are like three times as long as what they are in the games. LOL
They're literally meant to be like the size of phone charms. 😂
Most art depicts the chain/charm going to the end of the guard when the keyblade is placed tip down, and reaching to about Sora’s mid thigh in a normal stance
That's simply not true. The chains have always been on the bigger side, with an audible rattle sound.
@@EntangleMyWebs Even so, the chains on the recreations are no doubt longer than what's in-game and in art/renders lol
That and these prop recreations of the two Keyblades in question, Fatal Crest and Kingdom Key, are frankly REALLY low on the quality scale in general.
@@cillbipher2613 When in doubt, just "No doubt, lol".
God. I instantly recognised the 'Keyblade' at the start. It's a very... basic(?) try to make Fatal Crest from KH2FM.
Loved that thing in game. IRL not so much
Your humor is on point, always puts a smile on my face!
Frostmourne really taking me back… I remember playing the original WC3 campaign in HS when it first came out…. Arthas’ turn was rough.
It's actually a fair assessment, and quite true. If not for those studded rings on Frostmourne's handle, it would be a bit more practical.
And just so you know, in case you might not, that Rebellion 2H sword is actually a scaled down version than the real one. A smith (or metal welder as he prefers to call himself) called Irish Mike once made a full-scale version of that sword. And simply put, it was SO HEAVY. Showed that the game character had super-strength to wield it so casually.
Wallhanger Rebellion might be slightly more functional than most entirely-accurate variants of Rebellion, specifically because in most of the designs it has spikes poking out of the skull eyes pointed towards the hands.
I might be wrong on that one but i am pretty sure only DMC5 rebellion had the spikes coming out of the eyes of the skull. And only on one side if i remember correctly.
@@nono547I think your right about that at least for dmc5
The spikes on Rebellion's in-game model are actually fairly short and offset enough that I don't think it'd be an issue.
Devil Sword Dante, on the other hand, is an absolute wrist-stabber.
@@ahjeez-vc9qx Every rebelion had "horns" on just one side, the other has a normal human skull, it always kinda represented a devil/human thing going on,. the skulls on replica in the video are way to thin compared to game model, it wouldnt (probably) have a problem with wrist cuts.
Wow, it’s been ages since your original keyblade analysis video. Cool to see a revisit.
Funnily enough, flying runeblades like Frostmourne can be summoned by a Death Knight in WoW
Frostmourne itself, and by extension, Arthas, don't (or possibly can't) do this themselves, a very important note. Other Death Knights can, but the Lich King never pulled that move out himself.
A good lore question would be is it something only 3rd Gen DKs and onwards are capable of doing, or can 2nd Gen DKs (Arthas and probably dudes like Baron Rivendare) use this ability too? I've stopped playing for a while, so can't go back and check for myself, but to my knowledge at least, 2nd Gen DKs haven't done anything like this.
@@ogre7699 As players we are only 3rd and 4th generation DKs but we cant know for sure if 2nd generation DKs are unable to do it.
@@zharyel9890 True. But I would say that if it were possible, 2nd Gen DKs probably would've probably used it at least once on screen.
Up until 4th Gen, the different Generations had very distinctive differences between each other to set them apart, and this could be one of those.
0:30 Silly how could you not realize that the Keyblade is the ultimate weapon for anyone practicing the legacy systems of Lichtenauer. Weapon and technique put into one form - the perfect Zwerchcopter!
And a skeleton key also, never again will you be locked out of your house by accident.
I'm loving these videos Skall! It's so great to see you look that these replicas and analyze the.
amazing that you actually traveled there . love this series . thanks
It'd be fun to watch a video series analyzing your (and viewers) favorite fantasy weapons, in a way you could show a redesign where it could be realistic, and yet keep the fantasy aesthetic to it. By the way, fun video! Great job!
Great video Skall! I love it when you break down the design flaws in fantasy designs, they actually serve quite well as education for weapon designs, that is, what not to do. I watched all of your older videos that were like this too!
I like that the Energy Sword is such a wall-hanger that Canada lets you have what would be a punch-dagger.
Good thing I just got hired. I'll be able to become a member in about 2 weeks to see the extended video. I love these types of videos so much.
In defense of keyblades and their chains. They aren't ever meant to be longer than 6 chain links at the longest as depicted by every games art and their in-game models, which is something the irl replicas constantly get wrong. So no, there should never be a risk of you smacking your nuts with the keychain unless you're doing the weirdest, literal, thrusting attack.
Also you don’t strike with the teeth of the key, it’s not an axe!
@@OtisCluck ^ This too lol
@@OtisCluck This is what was bothering me the whole time. He was holding it WRONG!
It's the 'back' of the blade that you strike with, not the head. As you said: It's not an axe!
@@MegidramonX i mean, some keyblades do have a sword-like look that they might have and edge, like Riku's Way to Dawn
@@Stet709 ???? That's what we were saying. That only makes our point more true.
You don't strike with the 'teeth' of the key, but the 'back'. I put those in quotation marks since it's still key-shaped and the geometry still applies.
Very appropriate that you used rebellion as the safety lecture considering how often Dante ends up getting stabbed by it.
Brother I don't know anything about swords except that I like them in video games and movies, but I think your channel is awesome.
Based on a close up of the Sangheili hand, it wouldn't be awful for them. Their fingers really are split like that, having essentially 2 thumbs on opposite ends of their palm and two fingers between them with no other digits. They wear fancy gauntlets/vambraces/whatever you want to call alien forearm armor all the time so they could have some wrist support from that. They also aren't often shown to have their wrist bend on an axis where the spikes could hurt them, and their wrists may not even articulate that way normally. It's unclear why they have two points though, since single point versions exist and function. However, I have not been able to find any comparison between the performance of dual prong versus unified energy blades so there could plausibly be a significant difference in something, possibly battery life, overheating, or cutting potential. In conclusion, it's an alien weapon for alien hands and looks fairly reasonable in the hands of its creators. We don't know enough about the internal workings to critique the design choices too much, but some of the decisions certainly seem odd.
I can get why Frostmourne can seem like it's overdesigned and a bit much, but believe me when I say that it's easily one of the more sensible designs I've seen out of Warcraft, barring the obviously more standard looking sword designs. In fact, it's even cooler because it looks like it's kind of practical for what it is. It's easily one of the coolest designs I've come across in fantasy. Sure, a lot of ornamentation, but for a cursed sword that steals souls? That's exactly what I would picture when I think of just that.
Funny you mention possesed blades however.. Whilst Frostmourne itself can't animate itself to fight and shit, it does seem to have a form of sentience to it. Plus, Death Knights in Warcraft (which the dude who wields this, Arthas, is effectively the first of them) have an ability where they can animate weapons to fight for them for a short period of time. Arthas himself never does this himself, but other Death Knights can do it.
Easily one of the most iconic weapons of fantasy however, and hands down *the* most iconic weapon in all of Warcraft. And hilariously, it's the most practical of the more iconic weapons from Warcraft to boot. Truly a weapon fit for a king.
I love this little micro series! For the algorithm!
appreciate you didn't seem to be in utter disgust of the Rebellion haha DMC is one of my fav series
I mean, its probably amongst the most reasonable fantasy swords. Even at full size, its mostly just the size and weight that immediately stand out. The indents near the point might be weird but I don't know enough to say for sure.
Fitting for Dante's primary weapon, a simple longsword he uses with super strength and coordination. Then you get all the weird shit he collects during the game.
Oh man, this video brings back memories of when your channel started out. :D
1:56 despite all that ,it does look effing cool as hell....
Frostmourne hurting the wielder is lore-accurate ^^
I've had my eye on that Rebellion for years now it's cool to see footage of it
Epitome of weapon not meant for humans: Buster Sword of Final Fantasy VII and it's Remake. It is meant to arm supersoldiers who are superhumanly strong and made with magitek process.
Love these videos!!! These are like the old school videos when you worked in the airsoft/knive store! Love to see it
"It's so fantasy!" - Probably the most accurate thing I've heard for many such "blades".😆
The idea of Skallagrim running a Mall Ninja store makes me laugh.
This is the most "Link is not a superhuman" video I've ever seen.
The plasma sword might have some like lore science thing where one blade is positive charge the other negative so that would explain the no touching
The spiky grip parts of Frostmourne were added on in redesigns, and are often embellished for props or visuals - it WAS meant to scar the spirit, so I guess in part through the pain of gripping that handle! Though your comment about "If it was meant to fly around" does have some merit in-game - the class created by the wielder of Frostmourne, Death Knights (yeah, edgy name), do take from his abilities and weapon style and have a skill called Dancing Rune Weapon, which does have the weapon float to fight and assist you for a time without having to be held.
Frostmourne is supposed to rend the very soul of its wielder, so the spikes on the handle are a small nuisance compared to that.
For Frostmourne, we also get a really good look at Arthas's gloves in the cutscenes of WC3, he wore really thick leather gloves
I had a heavy keyblade made of wood. So, a club
Ahh yes, a fellow "Bonk build" player 👏
As a kid, that probably would've have been my favorite shop all summer long.
As an adult, I wonder how they manage to pay rent with a shop full of a very specific kind of trash.
More like these? Yes please !
Lich King: Arthas, my champion, first of my Death Knights, it is time to forge your new armour! State your preferences, and I shall...
Arthas: Big, thick leather gloves! Please! Ouch!
Lich King: Oh yeah. Fair enough.
Quick look at the thumbnail. "Why has Skall red circled his junk.. Oh🤦" 😂
It was fun seeing you use all of the swords in this video.
Skallagrim forgot to bring a snack.
Remember, Frostmourne hungers...
Well he did mention holding by the blade, and well we all know what happens when someone touches Frostmourne's blade
I Imagine wearing gloves in combat changes the feel and handling of a weapon in combat as well, gonna start getting slippery when the red stuff starts flying everywhere.
The original Man at Arms actually forged a Halo energy sword and he said it was hilariously balanced for what it was.
Dante's rebellion looks quite good. Small changes and weight reduce and it would be usable.
see thats the neat part about frostmourne! you may have to be undead to use it, but if you're alive and you DO try to use it, it'll steal your soul and MAKE you undead!
I'm relieved that the Master Sword is given the Seal of Approval.
Because come on, no only is it Beautiful as a Design. It can be practical too with little issues
The off brand master sword actually being a nice sword brings me joy.
NGL, adding spikes to a handle so that only an undead who can't feel pain can wield it comfortably is one of the better fantasy weapon ideas I've seen.
I love these kind of videos Skall!!
Awesome video Skall. Also i like your plait!
The Red Queen review will be entertaining 😅
Skall video in my notifications? The day is acceptable.
For keyblade, the 'accessories flails' are supposed to be significantly shorter. Like, literally keychain length.
Even as a kid i knew that everything in the mall knife shop was trash.
The keyblade is probably best described by that hammer-sword that Todd from Todd's Workshop made at one point.
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3:04 "If this was like a possessed sword that flies around and acts on its own..."
You know, you might be on to something there. When Arthas breaks it out of the ice seal thing, it sorta flies up and kills Muradin before landing. Or something. I can't actually tell what the dwarf got hit with.
Make some sparring videos with Broadswords and sabers! I love them because you add a really nice flair to saprring vids.
You should look at Warframe melee weapons, especially the glaive and blade and whip categories
THE GONAD WRACKER 9000
I have always loved Frostmourne as Fantasy nonsense, as even as a child I knew there was too much on that sword. But that over the top edginess made it cool to me then, and it does now.
Can't believe Skall reviewed Rebellion but not Red Queen, my beloved 😢
Yeah, uh... I got distracted. Just forgot about it.
Ngl, the Keyblade designs huuurt, not only because of the bend on Fatal Crest, but the nonsense length on the chain.
But eeeeey, glad to hear Rebellion and the Master Sword getting praise!
I can kind of understand the spikes on Frostmourn's hilt... The sword was like constantly devouring Arthas' soul. Maybe it was also drinking his blood or something. :) I imagine Frostmourne isn't really meant for swordfights, it's more of a sharp magic wand scepter for the Lich King...
I was really hoping that you'll check Altair's sword from Assassin's Creed. It looks quite simple and realistic.
Looking at fantasy weapons to determine their practicality as functional weapons is interesting - both fun and potentially educational. The PSA was well thought, too.
It should be noted that when considering whether a weapon would be fit for purpose, its often obvious that it could (in theory) work for non-humans of various types but not for us. However, in a fantasy setting even humans may not have the same abilities and/or limitations that we do. The setting matters. A weapon that would be useless for real world humans (us) might actually be fit for purpose for them. It is probably generally true, though, that creators and designers of fictional weaponry think more about how 'cool' a weapon is, or looks, than how fit for purpose it is. 😉
My only, minor, quibble is that some of us (me, lol) might not recognise or identify all of them. A brief mention of their name and origin/world/setting would be good (e.g. Frostmourne, World of Warcraft). The names in the vid title doesn't place which name goes with which weapon, or tell us which world it comes from. I'm guessing many will know, but still ...
I'm shocked they let you in, with a camera lmao
I'm not surprised that Rebellion and the Master Sword pass, at least relatively speaking. They're very "no frills" compared to most other fantasy swords out there, and the proportions on them aren't horrible.
My favorite fantasy sword is Glamdring from the LOTR
So obviously the Dragonslayer from berserk is utterly ridiculous as far as realism goes (berserk fans don't at me , I love the Dragonslayer)
But I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the sword Guts uses in the golden age arc. It's a lot narrower and thinner, and while it'd be heavy I think it's almost practical.
Even story itself says Dragonslayer is not a sword as it is something supposed to look like sword, but maker did not know how to make it properly. Hence it is as it is.
I love with the energy sword from Halo he actively points out the one negative that isn't even a negative. And that's the shape of the handle. He literally says "it's designed for human hands" and there's a ref pic of an elite holding it. So many people harp on the design for that reason.
Is that the owner of the shop just chilling back in his office. "I don't know man, I just work here."
Seems Link knows what's up, brings an actual "master" sword. XD
No no. It is clearly a retention device for when the guard causes you to let go of the sword. Insert the ball. The moment you drop the sword you will panic, then clench, and the retention device will do its job.
I love the Fravahar on the wall
I enjoyed hearing the wife. Glad you guys are still together.
Its kind of funny how they even had the audacity to put description comfortable handling on that sword when its blatantly obviously that you are not going to get comfortable handling with such a weapon.
I just rewatched his old highlander video and there is complete difference in young skall and present skall attitude.
So the LoZ sword is truly the Master Sword of the fantasy genre.
I’m laughing as it plays. “There’s so much fantasy happening!”