This is for everyone who believes Brandon is correct. Romans 16:17-18 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive
Gods word just is so true- “For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their *own appetites* , and by *smooth talk and flattery* *they deceive the hearts of the naive* “ So deep… So profound… So powerful.
@@simonacantarella3464you mean uphold the truth? He literally spent the debate sharing facts about the ancient culture, history and anthropology that informed the Bible, so come again?
The difference between Dr. Brown and Brandan is that Dr. Brown tries to express what the Bible says, but Brandan tries to show us his desires in the bible.
@@rosw-gd9555 it really seems the guy was made that way, doesnt it? Why woukd God be against something he made? How can you help what attracts you? Many guys wish they were straight but say they cant live a lie. Some kill themselves. Who would choose this?
@@joecheffo5942Easy. I come from a family of alcoholics. I started drinking very early in age. Drank for well over 15 years before I stopped. I used to drink a 750ml bottle a day, several back to back weeks in a row, not an exaggeration. My temptation, my lust, was alcohol. I couldn’t help that I was raised around it my entire life, or that I was predisposed to become addicted. I went to rehab several times, and at best I would learn to slow down on drinking temporarily. Once I accepted that Jesus Christ was the Father in the flesh and that he died on that cross for our sins, it took me about 2 months to quit cold turkey. I was addicted to sin. My sin with self indulgence in alcohol is no better that Brendan’s sin of laying with man, nor is it better that I look at women with lust than it is that Brandan looks and men with lust. The point of accepting Jesus Christ as your savior is to live as pure of a life as you humanly can through knowing that God is there to protect you, including being protected from temptation. Being gay doesn’t mean eternal damnation, but shamelessly giving into gay desires (or any sexual desires) might, and certainly advocating for it will. I’m not sure how Brandan will be judged, but boy, I nervous for him. May god have mercy on his soul.
@@joecheffo5942Your claiming that ‘it seems that God made him that way’ shows that you don’t have a great understanding of Theology. God didn’t make homosexuals the way they are in the same way that God didn’t make the masochists and the narcissists the way they are.
@@weston06. Actually he makes both. Science, and common sense observation, shows people are born gay. Twin stufies show this. Differences in brains even. Why dont you leave Gods creations alone. Man made the book, God made the prople.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, and wanting their ears tickled they will accumulate teachers in accordance with their own desires and turn their ears away from the truth and towards a myth
@@joecheffo5942it does because Brandon is using the next verse to say it’s only talking about idolatry but the next verses continue on other things that are also not allowed
amen praise God You continue to transform lives. thank you Dr Brown. we love you Brandan, we pray for you & other homosexuals for humility, for wisdom, complete repentance & an amazing testimony for Jesus
@@SrHdezTrades he said things that went with idolatry. They may have had gay sex and bestiality but the gay sex he is talking about is in a different context, not as part of a fiery idol worshipping demon cult.
The reason why all sexual immorality is idolatry, is because Yahweh's only normative form of sexuality is found in Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
@@revbrandanrobertsonit does though. By going against God’s prescribed nature for human sexuality you place yourself and your own feelings above God. You’re saying that what you want and what you desire is more important or better than what God has designed.
I do not agree with everything Michael Brown teaches, but I must say, he most certainly did his homework and refuted all of the arguments Brandon used against Jeff and James
I love how Dr brown was so loving and gracious in standing firm in the truth of scripture, its the most respectful debate ive seen with brandon , praying that we all ask the lord 'And see if there be any grievous way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting!' Psalm 139:23-24
Jesus didn’t come into the world to condemn but to save (John 3:17). Just because He didn’t condemn homosexuality it doesn’t mean He agreed with it. Repeatedly Jesus said to sinners: go and sin no more
If you're a gay Christian, there is nothing wrong with that. If you wanted to follow Jesus, follow him. But you need to stop loving another man as your partner. It is a sacrifice that you need to make. Same with us straight, we also have our sacrifice. If you follow Jesus, then we don't cheat our wives. At some point, we have our weaknesses and need to eliminate them. You cannot follow Jesus and sleep with a man. Same with the idea that you cannot follow Jesus and have mistresses.
a sinful nature is our identity, Brandan. An identity that God is making new through the process of sanctification. Being white is a part of your identity that God doesn't ask you to change because it's an accidental, amoral quality. Homosexual desires may be a part of your identity, just like heterosexual desires are part of 99% of heterosexual male identity. However, what we do with our desires is the issue. Lustful desires, outside of the bonds of marriage (see Gen. 2:24 for a definition of marriage), and especially physical sexual encounters outside of marriage, are something we are expected to deny. Jesus said, "if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out!" This is a clear statement prohibiting sexual immorality, regardless of our identity as heterosexual or homosexual. In fact, Brandan, this is a clear example of Jesus commanding us to "deny our identity," when that identity is sinful.
Perfect explanation!! It definitely doesn't make it right for a straight guy to sleep around with women. It is as much wrong to sleep around with same sex. But the only difference is one cannot "marry" the same sex and be faithful to that person and be justified just because they stayed faithful.
Jesus said many will say to me on that day. Jesus said, “Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:23). This will be Brandon if he does not repent.
No this will be all the people who called him LORD AND DID MIRACLES IN HIS NAME AND TOOK HIM AS A GOD RATHER THAN WORSHIPPING GOD ALONE. the verse clearly says he will say this to all the people who did good things called him LORD, did miracles in his name and prophesied in his name these are all good things according to Christianity but these are the things why he will reject you because HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD AND TOLD PEOPLE TO WORSHIP GOD ALONE.
How can a man lie down with a man like a woman. Since men don't have vaginas then how is that possible? If it is not possible the verse makes no sense.
The only requirement for salvation is to believe that Jesus died for your sins. It is a free gift!! If you believe you are going to earn your way into heaven, please rethink that.
Dr Brown: Verses, verses, verses, biblically sound and accurate. Brandan: Love me, love me, very cleverly and conveniently wrong deceit and depraved in his own arguments, not a single verse, so the Bible is not his authority but his "new" revelation of the "truth"
@brendanrobertson I admire your love for Christ. I'd remind people that the Bible was used to condone slavery! You have to remember when the Bible was written!
When Paul ( mentioning homosexuality) says that it's wrong in the eyes of God he says clearly that in the beginning God's intention when he created man was for him to have a female companion and that anything else besides that it would be a pervertion of God's design. In the beginning God created man and woman because he had a plan for them and Paul clearly stated that plan.Christ then said "Man will then find a suitable female and leave his father and mother to form a family of his own", that's God's way but this perverted young man wants to change God's ways and original plan to suit his own ways which are motivated by his own feelings and carnal desires!. The act of homosexuality in itself is perversion and sinful independently on the context which is performed, if this lost gay pastor can not see the difference it is because he is not allowing the word of God to speak😢😢😢
This is a classic example of someone who loves their sin, who doesn't want to let go of their sin, and who will therefore twist Scripture to try to get all of us to believe that this particular sin isn't actually sin. It's tragic.
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but those who sin sexually sin against their own body. This serves as a reminder to honor and respect our bodies as sacred, living in alignment with God’s design and His will for our lives. As followers of Christ, our identity is rooted in Him and His teachings. It’s important to remember that living a life consistent with Scripture involves surrendering all aspects of ourselves to God’s purpose.
Brandon keeps bringing in idolatry...over and over...Brandon is digging for something in the Bible to be able to live as he wishes. His will and not God's will. Brandon is completely lost.
The apostle Paul writes, my preaching and teaching were not with enticing words, but a demonstration of the Spirit’s power. Words are not enough! Lord we need your power. We need you!
The Bible clearly and consistently declares that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10). God created marriage and sexual relationships to be between one man and one woman: “At the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’” (Matthew 19:4-5). Anything outside of God’s intent and design is sin. The Bible teaches that Christians are to live for God, deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him (Matthew 16:24), including with their sexuality. This disconnect between what the Bible says and what some people feel leads to much controversy, debate, and even hostility.
Well, Brandon‘s already mistaken already he said Jesus never denied anyone following him that wanted to follow him and that’s a lie right there. There was a guy that came up to him said I’ll follow you wherever you go and he said foxes have holes birds have nest, but the sun man has nowhere to lay his head. He walked away and the demon possessed manafter Jesus cast out the demon he wanted to follow him and he said no go back and tell everybody what God has done for you. He did that with the blind man too. That wanted to follow him so Brandon is already starting off on the wrong foot.
Paul told us in the Corinthians latter that unsaved people will not enter the kingdom and he specifically names homosexuality among other sins like idolatry, etc. if you are not born again, that is a problem.
I really appreciate the spirit of compassion balanced with truth in Dr Browns approach. Not heated or ad hominem attacks but genuine search for truth with love ❤️
Therebis nothing to debate here. Sin isn't defined by humans, but by God. Why do LGBTQ people feel the need of twisting the Word of God, when 90% of them don't even believe there is a God and the Bible is a fairy tale. To me that sounds as guilt and guilt wants to cover sin. End of story
@@revbrandanrobertson you would be a great warrior for Christ if you just stopping letting a orgasm and feelings control you … very clever with your debates but they are all flawed I hope and pray one day you give Jesus the lead role in your life … are you willing to change if your point of view is wrong?
In Ancient Egypt and Cannan, same sex sex was primarily practiced as an idolatrous or exploitative practice. Dr. Brown's question is irrelevant because he's ripping verses out of context. Leviticus 18 is condemning the practices of particular cultures, and when we remove these verses from that context, we get misinterpretations such as the one he is promoting.
So your Lord and Savior is described in this one book, and in the WHOLE book never says homosexuality is a sin. Why leave that out? It doesn't mean its OK but it does help his argument, doesn't it?
@@joecheffo5942 What was considered sexual immorallity by Jesus is everything that is considered sexual immorallity in the Torah and Judaism. Christianity is very clear on the subject your choice is to marry one person of the opposite sex or remain celibate.
@@RickyVis But what is sodomy back then? Today it is defined as “sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation.” Was it the same back then? Because they list sodomy and homosexuality separately. So what is sodomy in the OT, the same?
One thing this video has reminded me of… the apostle Paul writes, my teaching and preaching were not with enticing words but a demonstration of the Spirit’s power. Words are not enough. Time to seek the Lord more…
There certainly are LGBT people who claim to be, or who believe they are Christains! But there is no much a person who is a LGBT Christian. We are commanded to repent, turn from our sin, and sin no more!
Dr Brown is an inspiration. I love his gracious heart and gentle, but firm, approach. I also appreciate Brandon’s good nature and openness to discussion. Brandon’s opening statement: Jesus is pro-people, therefore pro-everything 😂
I believe this comes down to the translation/interpretation of keywords in Leviticus 18. It is my understanding that Paul used these same word/words in his letters. I think that's the point that Rev. Brandan is trying to make. The word homosexuality wasn't used in the bible until 1940's from what I'm looking up. And Martin Luthers original German translates to "knabenschander" knaben translates to boy and schander translates to violated.
Typical Brandan...He states his false premise on the Bible...has it obliterated by people who actually know the Bible and then he just keeps re-stating the premise exactly the same way as if this time it will make sense. I've seen him do this with multiple different Christian apologists. He thinks his charm and confident demeanor will cover up the fact that his arguments just don't hold water. But unfortunately, he tells a lot of people exactly what they want to hear so no matter how much he gets hung out to dry in these debates, he just keeps saying it over and over. Even if the building were to be struck by LIGHTNING when he was mid sentence...He still won't take the hint and repent. I'll continue to pray for his soul. ps...He claims that nowhere does the Bible tell him to deny who he is. Matt 16:24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me".
DEAR MICHAEL, HELLO BROTHER! GREAT DEBATE! MICHAEL, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO GOT SAVED, AND THEN WENT THROUGH DELIEVERANCE FROM THE GAY SPIRIT AND IT WAS CLEARLY A STRONG SPIRIT AS I SAW IT BATTLING VERY HARD TO STAY IN THE MAN THAT WAS BEING DELIEVERED. IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT GOD MADE MALE AND FEMALE TO BE TO GATHER AND ANYTHING OTHER WISE IS NOT HIS DESIGN OR WILL. I DO BELEIVE THAT GOD LOVES THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO GAY, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT GOD LOVES THE PERSON, BUT HATES THE SIN.
This phrase people always say “God loves the sinner but hates the sin” is unbiblical. The Bible says “God hates all workers of iniquity” the person, not just the sin. And the deceitful are “abhorrent to Him”. (Psalm 5:5-6). In other words this gay person that twists the Scripture in order to suit his sin, it is deceit and abhorrent to God. He is a worker of iniquity, hated by God, until he repents. If you don’t believe me, you will see just how much God hates people and how abhorrent they are to Him, that He will be able to put them in a fire that burns forever on Judgement Day.
This was a much better debate, as opposed to his debate v James White and Jeff Durbin. Michael Brown allowed space for both positions to be stated clearly and thank God he did! When Brandon's position is stated clearly you can see how frail it is. It is not based on Scripture. He appeals to those with itching ears and man is he a dangerous person to bear the title of Christian. Is he saved? God knows. But he is certainly indulging his sinful passions and claiming that to be a good thing, so I have significant doubts. Praise the Lord for Michael Brown and may God have mercy on Brandon and lead him to the true knowledge regarding his sin.
Brandon is a clever little demon. But his arguements fall apart in light of scripture taken in proper context. Sadly he will take many with him to the lake of fire. He is what God sends to deceive those with inching ears and only want to be told they can continue to sin while claiming to follow Christ.
The debate was over after the opening statements, “such were some of you”. Faith in Jesus brings about repentance, the turning away from sinful practices that consumed us before receiving a heart of flesh, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Christ calls us to faith, repent and believe upon Him who gave His life for us wretched sinners. 🙏
He doesn't think it is against God's will. But why not just worry about yourself? Do you masterbate, have sexual thoughts outside marriage, get angry, get prideful? Why are you concerned about what this guy does in his bedroom probably one percent of his life? He is not a fundamentalist literalist, are you?
@revbrandanrobertson you are. You are decieved my friend. And I hope you truly find God one day. If you're interested at all in having a relationship with God you'll read about what he says about false prophets. You can't be a true Christian and not follow the word of God because you think he's talking to a certain race when he says his rules. Any rule God states in his word is to ALL humanity. I'm not sure who taught you your degrees or got to your thinking. I pray for you.
@revbrandanrobertson Romans: * I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who create dissensions and obstacles, in opposition to the teaching that you learned; avoid them. 18For such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the innocent
@revbrandanrobertson you should stop delete my comments man. The truth hurts I guess. ROMANS 16 17:18: * I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who create dissensions and obstacles, in opposition to the teaching that you learned; avoid them. 18For such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the innocent. There is only one form of Christianity. It's called true Christians. Christianity isn't in many diff forms it's in 1
As 2 Timothy 4:3 to 4 states, ' For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
@@Mathiasda Probably the worst example you could have come up with. Milo follows the money. As long as there’s a business niche for a ‘reformed’ gay, he will happily be the product. Rules of capitalism. He has been bankrupt for many years now. He never stated (to my knowledge) he’s no longer gay (let alone letting himself be tested with a penile plethysmograph). And as far as I know he’s still married to his husband??
@@chibaz8882 I have no reason to believe that he is being insincere about this. And I have looked into it quite a lot. There are some (but not many) video interviews of him from the recent years where he talks about it. He seems truly repentant. But the written interview he did with LIFESITE three years ago is a good place to start if you want to know more. It is titled "Activist Milo Yiannopoulos is now ‘Ex-Gay,’ consecrating his life to St. Joseph".
For all of my (strong) disagreements with Brandon, he is a very thoughtful, sincere and respectful guy. The kind of person I'd love to sit down and have coffee with. I enjoyed this debate because (unlike some of the other Brandon vs Conservative debates) there was mutual respect.
I appreciate that. My highest aim is to be respectful, because I believe that's how Christ relates to us. If you're ever in NYC, I am happy to grab coffee!
Is eternal life eternal? Does God transformed the heart? Do those in the vine produce fruit? Does God prune those in the vine? Are we regarded as sons for correction? Can the redeemed, from the heart, curse Jesus? Does God cause us to walk in his rules and statutes? By Faith do we have peace with God in Christ? Is god so weak that the will in men is able to overcome him? Or is god so powerful that he is able to keep you from stumbling? Is our perceived “will” bestowed supernatural power to resist God? And if so, where did this power come from in the new covenant? Does God Bring the redeemed to completion? Can anyone come to Jesus outside of the biblically explicit draw of God? Does Christ lose any that God gives him? What is eternal life according to scripture? What is God’s truth according to Jesus?
Jesus the same yesterday today forever the same if it detestable to God and Jesus is God. Your answer is there. Any relationship can become an idol. If God said I don't want you to be with this person FULL STOP, we have obey. Holding on to any relationship IF your love for it is above the love of the LORD there is a problem Why try to turn pizza hut into macdonald's Pls if you want to live your live anyhow then do that You are not following Christ you are following your flesh You can't do what you want and follow Christ You have to repent, pride is my will be done not God's.
The Bible was created for the people, in a way that it was perfectly written by God to cater for all times, so the premise that the laws are focused on idolatry or paganism is a long shot and as much as I want to be open minded I think that the concept is flawed. I believe the real contention is, for most gays is the idea that "they believe in Christ and trying to follow Christ just like anyone but there feeling of love for same gender becomes a question of morality". So they will try to find a soothing explanation that would make them gay and at the same time acceptable to Christ. The Bible speaks not about against being gay but sexual relationship of the same sex. However it would be hard to love someone in romantic sense and have not sexual experience. That is a very hard situation, that only Christ can deliver you from. An analogy but only for the purpose of demonstration, in the old days there are cannibals who thinks its normal to eat people, and then that cannibal suddenly learnt of Christ and wanted to be Christian. How can he manage to fight his urges in order to be with Christ. Very hard scenario if we put ourselves into there shoes. But the Bible si clear, we know what it means, AND Christ can deliver us from this dilemma if we trust in Him.
Question: "You did not quote one verse in scripture where God puts homosexuality in a positive light" Is there a single verse where we can justify the use of glasses. If your sight fails why do you seek to counter that in a "worldly" way. Some things are not in the bible because the bible was writen in a caltural context and does not represent all things that are possible. One day we will have people living on the moon, how does that change things we believe from the bible. That is why we have the Holy Spirit to help us deal with life as we experience it. Another thing is the morality about heart transplants and medical interventions like pacemakers. What does the bible say about that.
Im glad he does. Its a good way to expose the deception. Now if he gave him the platform fully to spit his agenda, i would disagree with. But this is healthy. This is exposing false doctrine and hopefully planting seeds and fertilizing them into Brandon. I'll pray for Brandon daily now that i know of him. I feel much pity for him and do not wish to see him perish. I can tell he loves God, but he loves his sin more unfortunately and wants to be accepted by the worlds ways more than Gods ways.
Jesus did mention sexual immorality in Mark 7:20-23. Then the question becomes are homosexual acts considered sexual immorality in Jewish tradition? The answer is 100% yes. It is very clear that the only moral choice in christianity is to marry one person of the opposite sex or remain celibate. At the same time I also want to say do not hate LGBT people, Jesus still loves them despite their sinful lifestyle and so should we.
You can except Jesus all you want but he says if you love me you obey me. This is sad,, there is a great falling away that Paul spoke about in the last days. People give into there own selfish desires.
I used to be pro-lgb we really did not have the t's back then, as a rather lukewarm christian. It was when I read the bible, cover to cover skipping nothing, and praying to be shown the truth, what ever that truth may be. That I realized, even though deep down I would like for LGBT to be seen as good and wholesome, it just seems they are not. you have to dance around the truth and twist scripture to get there, and that is mostly done to prove your biases, and lifestyle. I used to smoke, no where does the bible say that is wrong, but it was a sin, because I put it before God, it took over my life and while I was not happy in the long term it did make me feel good in the short term..that what sin does, gives you instant gratification, at the cost of long term consequences. This is why I think many LGBT people tend to be more depressed, have more mental issues than non-lgbt people. I am glad nobody ever told me smoking was fine, and good for me, because once I quit I felt better overall, and now don't miss the instant rush of a cigarette, every story I have heard when a LGBT person quits, be it to become celibate or find a traditional marriage, they always say how great it is now. I thought I was happy as a smoker, as this pastor thinks he is happy being gay, but like when I quit smoking, I bet he'd find peace giving up that lifestyle...but only if he makes that choice himself, I was resistant too when people thought I should quit, but they were right.
But first "purgatory " A Stop over before who makes it. What the word sadness means to me is that in this world as long as it has been around , people, basically do wrong shit(????). I don't I think of Noahs Ark Excluded were everyone except one family? And the animals on that boat(second class citizens? Save them cause their innocent. Now today there seems to be a theme(called the Last days). I guess theres a long (time?) To go and match the story of Noah's.
Brandan you completely twist what the scriptures say and mislead people into thinking worldly sins are acceptable in God's kingdom. I pray whatever demon is possessing you and spreading your absolute lies leaves you and you find what it means to be a follower of Christ.
Brandon misses that the eunuchs were not that way by choice. They were forcefully castrated. And it had nothing to do with their own feelings of sexuality, it was because they were slaves and had no choice. A eunuch could have felt desires for men or for women, the castration had nothing to do with what those desires were or were not, so I don’t find this a very compelling comparison to homosexuals.
Brandan, things can always be viewed from a variety of contexts. But isn't it convenient that you always choose to view it in the context that allows you to continue in your sin? Think about it.
@ Honorable Rev. Brandan I thought debate was what Paul was speaking against in the Romans 1 passage… I love your grace in walking through scripture with a broader lens of scripture with whomever is willing to hear.
How can anyone believe that God would affirm homosexual actions? Are such actions good? Are they beautiful? How are they important? What purpose do they serve?
What is wrong with loving and consensual homosexual relationships? Are they causing harm to anyone? What harm have such relationships ever caused you? There is no societal or scientific reason why homosexuality is wrong. In fact, two people who love each other and build a life together is a positive for the community. It’s only religious conservatives who seem to have a problem with homosexuality - and I’m sorry, but they don’t have a monopoly on the religion.
@@chrismckenzie9002 True love does not involve misuse of the sexual organs. Such activity is a departure from real love, causing harm to anyone doing it.
@@Mathiasda it concerns me that you’re equating ‘real love’ and ‘true love’ with the use of sex organs. For me, real love for both straight and gay couples is more about expressing loving qualities - respect, care, commitment to growing together, being there for each other, uplifting each other, serving each other etc. Both straight and gay couples are capable of expressing these loving qualities.
I saw this guy debate on Apologia studios. His hermeneutic is incredibly inconsistent and outright an eisegesis. Brandan is an apostate who needs to repent. This isn’t even a conversation he’s totally wrong and worships his lust. 😢
This is for everyone who believes Brandon is correct.
Romans 16:17-18
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive
Perfect
Very fitting scriptures. Read that twice.
Gods word just is so true-
“For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their *own appetites* , and by *smooth talk and flattery* *they deceive the hearts of the naive* “
So deep…
So profound…
So powerful.
He knows what the Bible says, but his desire is to deny the truth
@@simonacantarella3464you mean uphold the truth? He literally spent the debate sharing facts about the ancient culture, history and anthropology that informed the Bible, so come again?
The difference between Dr. Brown and Brandan is that Dr. Brown tries to express what the Bible says, but Brandan tries to show us his desires in the bible.
Lord God we pray against deception & distortion Holy Spirit we pray You lay it heavy upon Brandan that homosexuality is sin in Jesus' Might name amen
@@rosw-gd9555 it really seems the guy was made that way, doesnt it? Why woukd God be against something he made? How can you help what attracts you? Many guys wish they were straight but say they cant live a lie. Some kill themselves. Who would choose this?
@@joecheffo5942Easy. I come from a family of alcoholics. I started drinking very early in age. Drank for well over 15 years before I stopped. I used to drink a 750ml bottle a day, several back to back weeks in a row, not an exaggeration. My temptation, my lust, was alcohol. I couldn’t help that I was raised around it my entire life, or that I was predisposed to become addicted. I went to rehab several times, and at best I would learn to slow down on drinking temporarily. Once I accepted that Jesus Christ was the Father in the flesh and that he died on that cross for our sins, it took me about 2 months to quit cold turkey. I was addicted to sin. My sin with self indulgence in alcohol is no better that Brendan’s sin of laying with man, nor is it better that I look at women with lust than it is that Brandan looks and men with lust. The point of accepting Jesus Christ as your savior is to live as pure of a life as you humanly can through knowing that God is there to protect you, including being protected from temptation. Being gay doesn’t mean eternal damnation, but shamelessly giving into gay desires (or any sexual desires) might, and certainly advocating for it will. I’m not sure how Brandan will be judged, but boy, I nervous for him. May god have mercy on his soul.
@@joecheffo5942Your claiming that ‘it seems that God made him that way’ shows that you don’t have a great understanding of Theology. God didn’t make homosexuals the way they are in the same way that God didn’t make the masochists and the narcissists the way they are.
@@weston06. Actually he makes both. Science, and common sense observation, shows people are born gay. Twin stufies show this. Differences in brains even. Why dont you leave Gods creations alone. Man made the book, God made the prople.
This was a fast debate! Dr Brown is exquisite in debate. Clear and precise! Thank you for fighting for God’s design.
you still love dr brown now?
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, and wanting their ears tickled they will accumulate teachers in accordance with their own desires and turn their ears away from the truth and towards a myth
So true
I don't consider myself. My denomination considers me a Reverend.
"Are adultery and bestiality only wrong in terms of idolatrous practice?" That destroys Brandan's argument, even if it won't convince him.
Brandan would have you believe if it was a mutual and equal relationship, bestiality would be acceptable
No it doesn't. Is there ANOTHER form of bestiality, a loving committed form? No. His argument is when there are two types of things, not just one.
@@joecheffo5942it does because Brandon is using the next verse to say it’s only talking about idolatry but the next verses continue on other things that are also not allowed
amen praise God You continue to transform lives. thank you Dr Brown. we love you Brandan, we pray for you & other homosexuals for humility, for wisdom, complete repentance & an amazing testimony for Jesus
@@SrHdezTrades he said things that went with idolatry. They may have had gay sex and bestiality but the gay sex he is talking about is in a different context, not as part of a fiery idol worshipping demon cult.
They're coming to Christianity in droves because men like this young man are telling them they dont have to give up their sin.
The reason why all sexual immorality is idolatry, is because Yahweh's only normative form of sexuality is found in Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
That makes no sense. It doesn't make it idolatry.
@@revbrandanrobertsonit does though. By going against God’s prescribed nature for human sexuality you place yourself and your own feelings above God. You’re saying that what you want and what you desire is more important or better than what God has designed.
@@revbrandanrobertson It only makes no sense if you read it with your eyes closed.
@@revbrandanrobertsonit def makes sense.
@@revbrandanrobertson yes it does, Brandon. Any kind of sex, whether it be heterosexual or homosexual, outside the confines of marriage is idolatry.
And another thing, Brandon doesn’t understand the relationship between a husband and a wife is a picture of the bride of Christ the church
I do not agree with everything Michael Brown teaches, but I must say, he most certainly did his homework and refuted all of the arguments Brandon used against Jeff and James
I love michael brown. So loving. He debates the issue, not the person. So wise.
I agree with that.
The cornerstone of Brandan's argument is vanity.
The corner stone of y’all’s argument is hate and super natural nonesense
Prove that?
Either that or ignorance.
I love how Dr brown was so loving and gracious in standing firm in the truth of scripture, its the most respectful debate ive seen with brandon , praying that we all ask the lord 'And see if there be any grievous way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting!' Psalm 139:23-24
I pray that.
@@revbrandanrobertsongod sees that open heart Brandon. May god guide you❤❤
What this kid seems to not understand is Christ’s gospel was forgiveness AND repentance.
I am 33.
@ glad to hear! You look much younger to be fair. But why do you continually reject repentance? That’s one half of the Gospel.
Jesus didn’t come into the world to condemn but to save (John 3:17). Just because He didn’t condemn homosexuality it doesn’t mean He agreed with it. Repeatedly Jesus said to sinners: go and sin no more
If you're a gay Christian, there is nothing wrong with that. If you wanted to follow Jesus, follow him. But you need to stop loving another man as your partner. It is a sacrifice that you need to make. Same with us straight, we also have our sacrifice. If you follow Jesus, then we don't cheat our wives. At some point, we have our weaknesses and need to eliminate them. You cannot follow Jesus and sleep with a man. Same with the idea that you cannot follow Jesus and have mistresses.
Repent Brandan, with love- Pastor Brad, Alberta Canada🙏
a sinful nature is our identity, Brandan. An identity that God is making new through the process of sanctification. Being white is a part of your identity that God doesn't ask you to change because it's an accidental, amoral quality. Homosexual desires may be a part of your identity, just like heterosexual desires are part of 99% of heterosexual male identity. However, what we do with our desires is the issue. Lustful desires, outside of the bonds of marriage (see Gen. 2:24 for a definition of marriage), and especially physical sexual encounters outside of marriage, are something we are expected to deny. Jesus said, "if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out!" This is a clear statement prohibiting sexual immorality, regardless of our identity as heterosexual or homosexual. In fact, Brandan, this is a clear example of Jesus commanding us to "deny our identity," when that identity is sinful.
Perfect explanation!! It definitely doesn't make it right for a straight guy to sleep around with women. It is as much wrong to sleep around with same sex. But the only difference is one cannot "marry" the same sex and be faithful to that person and be justified just because they stayed faithful.
When we accept Christ's adoption, our sin nature is no longer a part of our identity but something we struggle with.
Jesus said many will say to me on that day. Jesus said, “Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:23). This will be Brandon if he does not repent.
No this will be all the people who called him LORD AND DID MIRACLES IN HIS NAME AND TOOK HIM AS A GOD RATHER THAN WORSHIPPING GOD ALONE. the verse clearly says he will say this to all the people who did good things called him LORD, did miracles in his name and prophesied in his name these are all good things according to Christianity but these are the things why he will reject you because HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD AND TOLD PEOPLE TO WORSHIP GOD ALONE.
@@Abz786-v5w I take it you don’t understand scripture at all. You must be an unbeliever and not regenerated and born again.
@@Abz786-v5wYeshua is LORD ( *Isaiah 44:6 / **48:12**-13 / Revelation 1:17-18 / 2:8-9 / 21:5-7 / **22:12**-16* )
“My theology” game over son.
All theology is our own theology.
Wow denial or what he 'll face the Lord Jesus one day let him argue his way out of his sin and face kingdom authority I hope he finds the truth Amen.
How can a man lie down with a man like a woman. Since men don't have vaginas then how is that possible? If it is not possible the verse makes no sense.
The only requirement for salvation is to believe that Jesus died for your sins. It is a free gift!! If you believe you are going to earn your way into heaven, please rethink that.
Dr Brown well done! And I love the respect that was shown.
He basically called him a degenerate, all with a smile.
@@joecheffo5942
He spoke the truth in love
@@joecheffo5942the Scripture called him a degenerate
I wish that Dr. Brown has acknowledged that he is a sinner just as Brandon. They both did well to show respect.
@@SnyderMusic-gt2ex you still love dr brown now?
Dr Brown: Verses, verses, verses, biblically sound and accurate.
Brandan: Love me, love me, very cleverly and conveniently wrong deceit and depraved in his own arguments, not a single verse, so the Bible is not his authority but his "new" revelation of the "truth"
Prove that? I constantly reference scripture and history.
@ watch it again buddy and most importantly Repent
@brendanrobertson I admire your love for Christ. I'd remind people that the Bible was used to condone slavery! You have to remember when the Bible was written!
Thank you.
Romans 1:22. Professing themselves to be wise they became FOOLS!!!!
Next time someone asks me the definition of cherry picking, I’m going to give them Brandan’s name.
I do love Cherrys.
This young man is so lost......Prayers for you Brandan.
I'm a gay Christian and Jesus loves me!!
We need that clock in every debate !!
Especially in Christian and Muslim debates.
Thank you for sharing the TRUTH DR Michael Brown! God bless you and strenghten you!
When Paul ( mentioning homosexuality) says that it's wrong in the eyes of God he says clearly that in the beginning God's intention when he created man was for him to have a female companion and that anything else besides that it would be a pervertion of God's design.
In the beginning God created man and woman because he had a plan for them and Paul clearly stated that plan.Christ then said "Man will then find a suitable female and leave his father and mother to form a family of his own", that's God's way but this perverted young man wants to change God's ways and original plan to suit his own ways which are motivated by his own feelings and carnal desires!.
The act of homosexuality in itself is perversion and sinful independently on the context which is performed, if this lost gay pastor can not see the difference it is because he is not allowing the word of God to speak😢😢😢
*perversion
Lord Jesus, please help this man bow his heart to you and repent of his sin, just like we all do.
I do, every single day.
@@revbrandanrobertson And then you wallow in your sin and encourage others to do the same by distorting the Bible. God is not mocked.
@@catharsis77 Being gay isn't a sin. But being arrogant, prideful, and judgmental is.
@@revbrandanrobertson Acting on being homosexual is.Telling you the truth isn’t a sin, no matter how you choose to characterize it.
@@catharsis77 It is not. God loves gay relationships, gay sex, and gay people. He made us for such relationships.
This is a classic example of someone who loves their sin, who doesn't want to let go of their sin, and who will therefore twist Scripture to try to get all of us to believe that this particular sin isn't actually sin. It's tragic.
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but those who sin sexually sin against their own body. This serves as a reminder to honor and respect our bodies as sacred, living in alignment with God’s design and His will for our lives.
As followers of Christ, our identity is rooted in Him and His teachings. It’s important to remember that living a life consistent with Scripture involves surrendering all aspects of ourselves to God’s purpose.
Love that verse!
@ 1 Corinthians 6:18
Sorry forgot to add reference
We love You, Brandan Robertson, even as Yeshua HaMashiakh loves us.
Amen.
Brandon keeps bringing in idolatry...over and over...Brandon is digging for something in the Bible to be able to live as he wishes. His will and not God's will. Brandon is completely lost.
Idolatry is one of the biggest sins condemned in Scripture.
Oh Brandon you have lost this debate
If "Man shall not lay down with man" were one of the ten commandments Brandon would try to talk his way around that too
The apostle Paul writes, my preaching and teaching were not with enticing words, but a demonstration of the Spirit’s power. Words are not enough! Lord we need your power. We need you!
The Bible clearly and consistently declares that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10). God created marriage and sexual relationships to be between one man and one woman: “At the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’” (Matthew 19:4-5). Anything outside of God’s intent and design is sin. The Bible teaches that Christians are to live for God, deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him (Matthew 16:24), including with their sexuality. This disconnect between what the Bible says and what some people feel leads to much controversy, debate, and even hostility.
Well, Brandon‘s already mistaken already he said Jesus never denied anyone following him that wanted to follow him and that’s a lie right there. There was a guy that came up to him said I’ll follow you wherever you go and he said foxes have holes birds have nest, but the sun man has nowhere to lay his head. He walked away and the demon possessed manafter Jesus cast out the demon he wanted to follow him and he said no go back and tell everybody what God has done for you. He did that with the blind man too. That wanted to follow him so Brandon is already starting off on the wrong foot.
Paul told us in the Corinthians latter that unsaved people will not enter the kingdom and he specifically names homosexuality among other sins like idolatry, etc. if you are not born again, that is a problem.
I really appreciate the spirit of compassion balanced with truth in Dr Browns approach. Not heated or ad hominem attacks but genuine search for truth with love ❤️
Therebis nothing to debate here. Sin isn't defined by humans, but by God.
Why do LGBTQ people feel the need of twisting the Word of God, when 90% of them don't even believe there is a God and the Bible is a fairy tale. To me that sounds as guilt and guilt wants to cover sin. End of story
"Are adultery and beastiality only wrong in the case of idolatry?" (11:55) Mic drop by Dr. Brown.
That's not a Mic Drop at all? You're ignoring the context of the passage lol.
@@revbrandanrobertson you would be a great warrior for Christ if you just stopping letting a orgasm and feelings control you … very clever with your debates but they are all flawed I hope and pray one day you give Jesus the lead role in your life … are you willing to change if your point of view is wrong?
@revbrandanrobertson answer Dr. Brown question then
@@gabyriady9140 Nope. But that was the context the text is referring to.
In Ancient Egypt and Cannan, same sex sex was primarily practiced as an idolatrous or exploitative practice. Dr. Brown's question is irrelevant because he's ripping verses out of context. Leviticus 18 is condemning the practices of particular cultures, and when we remove these verses from that context, we get misinterpretations such as the one he is promoting.
talk about an argument from silence! Brandan, you literally argued that Jesus never condemned homosexuality, therefore it's not sin. yikes, bro!
So your Lord and Savior is described in this one book, and in the WHOLE book never says homosexuality is a sin. Why leave that out? It doesn't mean its OK but it does help his argument, doesn't it?
@@joecheffo5942 Because homosexuality is included in sexual immorality which he did mention in Mark 7:21-23.
@@RickyVis So where does it end? They called it “missionary position” at one time. Certain sex positions are immoral to some people.
@@joecheffo5942 What was considered sexual immorallity by Jesus is everything that is considered sexual immorallity in the Torah and Judaism.
Christianity is very clear on the subject your choice is to marry one person of the opposite sex or remain celibate.
@@RickyVis But what is sodomy back then? Today it is defined as “sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation.” Was it the same back then? Because they list sodomy and homosexuality separately. So what is sodomy in the OT, the same?
One thing this video has reminded me of… the apostle Paul writes, my teaching and preaching were not with enticing words but a demonstration of the Spirit’s power. Words are not enough. Time to seek the Lord more…
There certainly are LGBT people who claim to be, or who believe they are Christains! But there is no much a person who is a LGBT Christian. We are commanded to repent, turn from our sin, and sin no more!
Dr Brown is an inspiration. I love his gracious heart and gentle, but firm, approach.
I also appreciate Brandon’s good nature and openness to discussion.
Brandon’s opening statement: Jesus is pro-people, therefore pro-everything 😂
I believe this comes down to the translation/interpretation of keywords in Leviticus 18. It is my understanding that Paul used these same word/words in his letters. I think that's the point that Rev. Brandan is trying to make. The word homosexuality wasn't used in the bible until 1940's from what I'm looking up. And Martin Luthers original German translates to "knabenschander" knaben translates to boy and schander translates to violated.
Blessing's and great peaceful debate, and I deal with it personally in my own family...Shalom!
Very good
Typical Brandan...He states his false premise on the Bible...has it obliterated by people who actually know the Bible and then he just keeps re-stating the premise exactly the same way as if this time it will make sense. I've seen him do this with multiple different Christian apologists. He thinks his charm and confident demeanor will cover up the fact that his arguments just don't hold water. But unfortunately, he tells a lot of people exactly what they want to hear so no matter how much he gets hung out to dry in these debates, he just keeps saying it over and over. Even if the building were to be struck by LIGHTNING when he was mid sentence...He still won't take the hint and repent. I'll continue to pray for his soul. ps...He claims that nowhere does the Bible tell him to deny who he is. Matt 16:24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me".
What about 1Corinthians 6-9.
DEAR MICHAEL, HELLO BROTHER! GREAT DEBATE! MICHAEL, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO GOT SAVED, AND THEN WENT THROUGH DELIEVERANCE FROM THE GAY SPIRIT AND IT WAS CLEARLY A STRONG SPIRIT AS I SAW IT BATTLING VERY HARD TO STAY IN THE MAN THAT WAS BEING DELIEVERED. IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT GOD MADE MALE AND FEMALE TO BE TO GATHER AND ANYTHING OTHER WISE IS NOT HIS DESIGN OR WILL. I DO BELEIVE THAT GOD LOVES THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO GAY, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT GOD LOVES THE PERSON, BUT HATES THE SIN.
This phrase people always say “God loves the sinner but hates the sin” is unbiblical. The Bible says “God hates all workers of iniquity” the person, not just the sin. And the deceitful are “abhorrent to Him”. (Psalm 5:5-6). In other words this gay person that twists the Scripture in order to suit his sin, it is deceit and abhorrent to God. He is a worker of iniquity, hated by God, until he repents. If you don’t believe me, you will see just how much God hates people and how abhorrent they are to Him, that He will be able to put them in a fire that burns forever on Judgement Day.
All sexual immorality is rooted in idolatry.
This was a much better debate, as opposed to his debate v James White and Jeff Durbin. Michael Brown allowed space for both positions to be stated clearly and thank God he did! When Brandon's position is stated clearly you can see how frail it is. It is not based on Scripture. He appeals to those with itching ears and man is he a dangerous person to bear the title of Christian. Is he saved? God knows. But he is certainly indulging his sinful passions and claiming that to be a good thing, so I have significant doubts. Praise the Lord for Michael Brown and may God have mercy on Brandon and lead him to the true knowledge regarding his sin.
Same sex marriage was a debate/conversation in the 1st century?
Lol..
I mean, it was.
@@revbrandanrobertson it was and always has been a sin in the eyes of the Lord. Stop trying to manipulate scripture to justify your lies.
Brandan was dismantled here, as he is whenever he comes up against anyone who knows their Bible. Repent, Brandan, and stop serving your idol.
These LGBT are under the believe that ones saved always save...even thought men keep on sinning..
Both the Hebrew and Greek texts say homosexuality is a sin so pride month is a sin.
No such text exists.
Brandon is a clever little demon. But his arguements fall apart in light of scripture taken in proper context. Sadly he will take many with him to the lake of fire. He is what God sends to deceive those with inching ears and only want to be told they can continue to sin while claiming to follow Christ.
Thanks!
The debate was over after the opening statements, “such were some of you”. Faith in Jesus brings about repentance, the turning away from sinful practices that consumed us before receiving a heart of flesh, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Christ calls us to faith, repent and believe upon Him who gave His life for us wretched sinners. 🙏
The real question is Brandon if Homosexuality is against God's will will you abstain from those kind of relationships?
I think that’s a great question that I don’t think I’ve heard asked when this topic has been discussed.
He doesn't think it is against God's will. But why not just worry about yourself? Do you masterbate, have sexual thoughts outside marriage, get angry, get prideful? Why are you concerned about what this guy does in his bedroom probably one percent of his life? He is not a fundamentalist literalist, are you?
Yes.
you don't argue with the diablo, you cast it out
Lmfao 😂😂 I'm dying man. Some people are so lost their unsavable
No one is unsavable.
@revbrandanrobertson you are. You are decieved my friend. And I hope you truly find God one day. If you're interested at all in having a relationship with God you'll read about what he says about false prophets. You can't be a true Christian and not follow the word of God because you think he's talking to a certain race when he says his rules. Any rule God states in his word is to ALL humanity. I'm not sure who taught you your degrees or got to your thinking. I pray for you.
@revbrandanrobertson Romans: * I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who create dissensions and obstacles, in opposition to the teaching that you learned; avoid them. 18For such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the innocent
@revbrandanrobertson you should stop delete my comments man. The truth hurts I guess.
ROMANS 16 17:18: * I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who create dissensions and obstacles, in opposition to the teaching that you learned; avoid them. 18For such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the innocent. There is only one form of Christianity. It's called true Christians. Christianity isn't in many diff forms it's in 1
Brandon Robert deffended pornograpgy as sexual expression. Pornography has been shown to fuel the sex trafficking industry.
As 2 Timothy 4:3 to 4 states, ' For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
8:12 - well, where are they? Can we talk to them directly?
Milo Yiannopoulos, just to name someone in the public sphere
@@Mathiasda Probably the worst example you could have come up with. Milo follows the money. As long as there’s a business niche for a ‘reformed’ gay, he will happily be the product. Rules of capitalism. He has been bankrupt for many years now. He never stated (to my knowledge) he’s no longer gay (let alone letting himself be tested with a penile plethysmograph). And as far as I know he’s still married to his husband??
@@chibaz8882
I have no reason to believe that he is being insincere about this. And I have looked into it quite a lot. There are some (but not many) video interviews of him from the recent years where he talks about it. He seems truly repentant. But the written interview he did with LIFESITE three years ago is a good place to start if you want to know more. It is titled "Activist Milo Yiannopoulos is now ‘Ex-Gay,’ consecrating his life to St. Joseph".
For all of my (strong) disagreements with Brandon, he is a very thoughtful, sincere and respectful guy. The kind of person I'd love to sit down and have coffee with. I enjoyed this debate because (unlike some of the other Brandon vs Conservative debates) there was mutual respect.
I appreciate that. My highest aim is to be respectful, because I believe that's how Christ relates to us. If you're ever in NYC, I am happy to grab coffee!
If one becomes a true Christian, then one is no longer gay, or liar, or thief, or hater, or greedy, or envious or any other sin becomes abhorrent.
Is eternal life eternal?
Does God transformed the heart?
Do those in the vine produce fruit?
Does God prune those in the vine?
Are we regarded as sons for correction?
Can the redeemed, from the heart, curse Jesus?
Does God cause us to walk in his rules and statutes?
By Faith do we have peace with God in Christ?
Is god so weak that the will in men is able to overcome him? Or is god so powerful that he is able to keep you from stumbling?
Is our perceived “will” bestowed supernatural power to resist God? And if so, where did this power come from in the new covenant?
Does God Bring the redeemed to completion?
Can anyone come to Jesus outside of the biblically explicit draw of God?
Does Christ lose any that God gives him?
What is eternal life according to scripture?
What is God’s truth according to Jesus?
Brandon as a "pastor" is more concerned with validating sin than the salvation of souls
Dr. Michael Brown did a beautiful job of using the Word of God to prove that homosexuality is a sin that comdemns these sinners.
If he did his homework on Dr Brown he would have known not to bring up translation disparities.
Jesus the same yesterday today forever the same if it detestable to God and Jesus is God. Your answer is there.
Any relationship can become an idol. If God said I don't want you to be with this person FULL STOP, we have obey.
Holding on to any relationship IF your love for it is above the love of the LORD there is a problem
Why try to turn pizza hut into macdonald's
Pls if you want to live your live anyhow then do that
You are not following Christ you are following your flesh
You can't do what you want and follow Christ
You have to repent, pride is my will be done not God's.
The Bible was created for the people, in a way that it was perfectly written by God to cater for all times, so the premise that the laws are focused on idolatry or paganism is a long shot and as much as I want to be open minded I think that the concept is flawed. I believe the real contention is, for most gays is the idea that "they believe in Christ and trying to follow Christ just like anyone but there feeling of love for same gender becomes a question of morality". So they will try to find a soothing explanation that would make them gay and at the same time acceptable to Christ. The Bible speaks not about against being gay but sexual relationship of the same sex. However it would be hard to love someone in romantic sense and have not sexual experience. That is a very hard situation, that only Christ can deliver you from. An analogy but only for the purpose of demonstration, in the old days there are cannibals who thinks its normal to eat people, and then that cannibal suddenly learnt of Christ and wanted to be Christian. How can he manage to fight his urges in order to be with Christ. Very hard scenario if we put ourselves into there shoes. But the Bible si clear, we know what it means, AND Christ can deliver us from this dilemma if we trust in Him.
God didn't write the Bible.
@@revbrandanrobertson Brother, its a figure of speech, you know that...
Good debate, I would use Romans 16:17-18 for Brandon… going to be praying for him
listening to brendon makes me sick
Brandan*
Yes you can follow Christ - gay or not. If you truly accepted the Holy Spirit then let it guide you. Thats the only teacher.
Amen 🙏🏻
Gross. The depth a person goes to justify homosexual lifestyle is disgusting.
There’s only one valid question I would ask … is Brandon will to change if his belief is proven to be flawed?…
Absolutely.
Almost every single thing he says is shown to be wrong and he never changes his belief
@@silloweet Not one thing has been proven wrong.
@@revbrandanrobertson you lost the debate but other than that, your videos constantly get refuted online
@@silloweet Refuting an argument is not the same as providing objective proof.
Brandan is luke cold 🥶
Brandan is Ice cold.
Brandan is dead.
Question: "You did not quote one verse in scripture where God puts homosexuality in a positive light" Is there a single verse where we can justify the use of glasses. If your sight fails why do you seek to counter that in a "worldly" way. Some things are not in the bible because the bible was writen in a caltural context and does not represent all things that are possible. One day we will have people living on the moon, how does that change things we believe from the bible. That is why we have the Holy Spirit to help us deal with life as we experience it. Another thing is the morality about heart transplants and medical interventions like pacemakers. What does the bible say about that.
Brandon, would you condone sex between two same sex people outside of marriage?
the Bible doesn't condemn sex outside of marriage.
Why give this man a platform!
Im glad he does. Its a good way to expose the deception. Now if he gave him the platform fully to spit his agenda, i would disagree with. But this is healthy. This is exposing false doctrine and hopefully planting seeds and fertilizing them into Brandon. I'll pray for Brandon daily now that i know of him. I feel much pity for him and do not wish to see him perish. I can tell he loves God, but he loves his sin more unfortunately and wants to be accepted by the worlds ways more than Gods ways.
Jesus did mention sexual immorality in Mark 7:20-23. Then the question becomes are homosexual acts considered sexual immorality in Jewish tradition? The answer is 100% yes. It is very clear that the only moral choice in christianity is to marry one person of the opposite sex or remain celibate.
At the same time I also want to say do not hate LGBT people, Jesus still loves them despite their sinful lifestyle and so should we.
💯on 🎯. We love & care for them enough to tell the truth & not affirm their sin.
We can call it remaining chaste instead of celibate also.
Brandan Robertson is such a talented fanfiction writer.
You can except Jesus all you want but he says if you love me you obey me. This is sad,, there is a great falling away that Paul spoke about in the last days. People give into there own selfish desires.
Beautiful Debate ✝️💝
I used to be pro-lgb we really did not have the t's back then, as a rather lukewarm christian. It was when I read the bible, cover to cover skipping nothing, and praying to be shown the truth, what ever that truth may be. That I realized, even though deep down I would like for LGBT to be seen as good and wholesome, it just seems they are not. you have to dance around the truth and twist scripture to get there, and that is mostly done to prove your biases, and lifestyle.
I used to smoke, no where does the bible say that is wrong, but it was a sin, because I put it before God, it took over my life and while I was not happy in the long term it did make me feel good in the short term..that what sin does, gives you instant gratification, at the cost of long term consequences. This is why I think many LGBT people tend to be more depressed, have more mental issues than non-lgbt people.
I am glad nobody ever told me smoking was fine, and good for me, because once I quit I felt better overall, and now don't miss the instant rush of a cigarette, every story I have heard when a LGBT person quits, be it to become celibate or find a traditional marriage, they always say how great it is now. I thought I was happy as a smoker, as this pastor thinks he is happy being gay, but like when I quit smoking, I bet he'd find peace giving up that lifestyle...but only if he makes that choice himself, I was resistant too when people thought I should quit, but they were right.
I like these two guys.
I hope to see both of them in heaven.
But first "purgatory "
A Stop over before who makes it. What the word sadness means to me is that in this world as long as it has been around , people, basically do wrong shit(????). I don't I think of Noahs Ark
Excluded were everyone except one family? And the animals on that boat(second class citizens? Save them cause their innocent. Now today there seems to be a theme(called the Last days). I guess theres a long (time?) To go and match the story of Noah's.
Brandan you completely twist what the scriptures say and mislead people into thinking worldly sins are acceptable in God's kingdom. I pray whatever demon is possessing you and spreading your absolute lies leaves you and you find what it means to be a follower of Christ.
Brandon misses that the eunuchs were not that way by choice. They were forcefully castrated. And it had nothing to do with their own feelings of sexuality, it was because they were slaves and had no choice. A eunuch could have felt desires for men or for women, the castration had nothing to do with what those desires were or were not, so I don’t find this a very compelling comparison to homosexuals.
Many eunuchs were born eunuchs or made eunuchs by choice. Do some research.
Brandan, things can always be viewed from a variety of contexts. But isn't it convenient that you always choose to view it in the context that allows you to continue in your sin? Think about it.
Except it's not a sin.
Doesn’t the Bible speaks against debating?
No?
@ Honorable Rev. Brandan I thought debate was what Paul was speaking against in the Romans 1 passage… I love your grace in walking through scripture with a broader lens of scripture with whomever is willing to hear.
How can anyone believe that God would affirm homosexual actions? Are such actions good? Are they beautiful? How are they important? What purpose do they serve?
What is wrong with loving and consensual homosexual relationships? Are they causing harm to anyone? What harm have such relationships ever caused you? There is no societal or scientific reason why homosexuality is wrong. In fact, two people who love each other and build a life together is a positive for the community.
It’s only religious conservatives who seem to have a problem with homosexuality - and I’m sorry, but they don’t have a monopoly on the religion.
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True love does not involve misuse of the sexual organs. Such activity is a departure from real love, causing harm to anyone doing it.
@@Mathiasda it concerns me that you’re equating ‘real love’ and ‘true love’ with the use of sex organs. For me, real love for both straight and gay couples is more about expressing loving qualities - respect, care, commitment to growing together, being there for each other, uplifting each other, serving each other etc. Both straight and gay couples are capable of expressing these loving qualities.
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Should the loving qualities that you are expressing not also be present in a friendship?
I saw this guy debate on Apologia studios. His hermeneutic is incredibly inconsistent and outright an eisegesis.
Brandan is an apostate who needs to repent.
This isn’t even a conversation he’s totally wrong and worships his lust. 😢
Amen Rev Brandon. I am gay and will always be gay and will always be Christian.
Well, you can be christian, but you need to consider being accepted by christ
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