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She definitely was taken against her will or coerced. Such as "We know who your family is (insert proof here), so return or they die." There's no way she left of her own accord. She clearly had it better than others in the south. Nor was she a spy if they check them out before letting them in.
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I totally agree with the guy at the end. don't judge them because of where they come from. it is already hard for North Koreans to escape through the Tumen River. Best way is to accommodate them. Put yourself in their shoes before making any judgements.
I know I'm a bit late, but I find this interesting. Most of us in the comment section who have an "outside perspective" have the opinion that South Koreans ought to show more compassion towards the North Koreans. But in our own countries, we are usually just as afraid of taking in immigrants as the South Koreans. I live in Europe, and it's clear that a large portion of Europeans think that immigrants will change our culture and destroy Europe from the inside. That is the exact same fear that these South Koreans seem to be having! Also, the immigrants who make the trip to Europe have to go through extreme hardships, so the thing that 'the guy at the end' said applies to Europe as well. However, is there some logic to the fear? It's only if we can understand this fear that we avoid future friction. Nationalism is growing in Europe, and the youth in South Korea are negative towards reunification, and the fear we hold seems to be of the same origin. What can we learn from one another?
Criller excellent point! Even as I watched this video I thought that it was interesting that S.Koreans look at N.Koreans the same way many people view immigrants, or people that flee war-torn countries. I am someone who believes everyone deserves respect unless they give you a reason to take it away. I think we could all use a little more open mindedness because we learn a lot from one another
I reckon that North Korean girl was abducted by North Korean government while she was staying with her husband in one of cities in China near the North Korean border 4 months ago. As one of interviewees said in the video, the North Korean girl looked like a person forced to give an interview for North Korean media. Moreover, I recently watched this Korean TV show starring North Korean defectors and their impression was that she was not a spy as a real spy would never appear on South Korean media.
I don't really think, she was abducted. In her speech for NK press she talks about her parents - maybe, the North Korea's government let her know that if she won't return something bad might happen to them?
If there is any evidence to suggest her or her family were being threatened then it's still coercion and not much different to being abducted really. I feel that during that interview she was terrified about what might happen to her later. The interviews are all about the North Korean image, if they can make it look like she returned on her own then they are blameless in the eyes of the those watching.
Nah, that girl was abducted. Her boyfriend that she was meeting or smth was probably paid by the nk government to get her to go back to china so they could take her from there. And why would they kill her when she could be of valuable use in this way. Getting sk to be more suspicious of defectors. Wanting a more rigid process, so they can't end up in sk. Wanting her to be the spokesperson for "don't defect to sk, it's horrible! even this celebrity hated being there!" and i can't believe how many people they think were spies. my guess was less than 1%.
@@namuh5799 yes, exactly ... I feel that was the sole thinking of NK while shooting this video ... To aware NKs of bad side of SK . and also to make SK people negative about NK people so that NKs would feel difficulty residing in SK
I wonder if this “boyfriend” was someone she met online or had she met him in person before? If it is someone she met online than I believe whatever reason she was given by him was a trap to take her back. I don’t even understand why a nk would travel to China, knowing that China is willing to return escapees.
i was so happy when the last guy interviewed actually mentioned to put yourself in the defectors shoes before judging.. that’s so true! it’s not like anyone has asked to be born into the crazy nation of north korea and of course they’d find it difficult to intergrate into south korean society, they’ve just spend their lives believing that kim jong un is a God.. totally agree that the north koreans need as much support, love and understanding as they can get. none of their situation is their fault - obviously they didn’t leave their home country for fun.
A bit late but i too felt relieved that at least there was one one person amongst all interviewed that has good sense & compassion. Yes, nobody can choose where we're born. We need to be more empathetic towards others & don't be quick to judge.
I thought so too!! I'm glad he made that statement after interviewing all those people who had no idea about North Korea. It triggers me that I'm more interested on this subject living all the way here in Mexico than they are, living literally above them speaking the same language.
Apperantly in an interview with a defector he said a lot of the youth don't believe that stuff but can't talk about it out of fear so they just go along with it.
I clearly remember that after 911, also after the boston marathon, americans massively behaved strange towards arab race what you are saying is like "I can't believe how many people thought they are terrorist" I can make another example with your behaves while black riot arrised or syrian refugees our instincts are similar to each other's ones cause we all are humans and humans don't like to be scared scares make people being careful and suspicious especially if the case is full of simillar precedents
I wouldnt be surprised if she was tortured and killed after that video. The guy assuming that shes a spy because she was on TV is as dumb as they come and believe exactly what NK wants people to believe.
It was a little disheartening to hear the level of wariness in their voices when they talked about North Korean defectors. Just like North Korean defectors have no choice in where they come from, I had no choice in being adopted and taken away from Korea. Can you really blame us for being different? I view North Korean defectors and North Korea like an abusive relationship. They flee even though it terrifies them to do so. They talk about their experiences even at personal risk. Or they stay silent about their past out of fear that people may call them needy or dislike them for no other reason than not understanding what the abused person went through. Leaving an abusive relationship is scary. Unfortunately, some of those who have been abused return to their abusers out of fear. At the very least you can't say that that life is an easy one when so many of their decisions revolve around fear and instability. I imagine a little more compassion and effort to sympathize would go a long way.
Hi, actually, I can understand why do people think that.. I'm French, and we often hear from the news some crimes committed by ''arab'' people (without offence). And there also are some terrorist stuff, so many French people have a and opinion toward them. I'm not South Korean, but I think that over there, the medias also have a big impact on people thought, and make a part of the South Korean distrustful towards North Korean defectors. (I'm not trying to say if that's good or bad, I'm not Korean so I can't really know, but I'm just trying to explain people's reactions). Should I understand that you're from North Korea ?
I don't think I am, please don't reinterpret my words. In this specific case, we're not talking about reunification of the two Koreas, we're talking about the current perception of defectors so right off the bat the majority of what you're talking about is irrelevant to what I initially posted. At least two people in this video acknowledge that this incident will damage the perception of defectors and one of the men interviewed assumes that this incident will encourage more South Koreans to see all defectors as spies. That is a huge generalization and one that some people make when they face an unknown. Of course they live in very different worlds but South Koreans have vastly more opportunities to help and sympathize than North Koreans. It's like asking a poor person to put in an equal amount of money as a rich person. It may be the same sum but it has very different consequences for the two individuals. Unlike you, I'm not trying to generalize the entire country. I'm talking specifically about these people being wary despite not personally knowing a North Korean defector. When the one woman says she doesn't ever really think about defectors and yet still comes up with a percentage of defectors who are spies. How many defectors do you think this woman knows? Many people in the video are quick to make assumptions about defectors despite only one maybe two actually having met a defector. This is the kind of environment where bigotry and xenophobia flourish. Without the more powerful helping to bridge the divide with respect and compassion, the marginalized groups will continue to be villainized and ostracized. No matter what your views are about the two Koreas, making assumptions about people regardless of their character is a flawed way of looking at the world. Normal perhaps, but deeply flawed.
Oh wups..the guy I was responding to decided to say something offensive so I reported his comment but accidentally removed his initial post as well. I'm not good with this youtube business :P
I totally agree with you Jee Hei ! And sorry, I just reread your comment and understood, you're from South Korea and you were adopted and now you live in another country, right ?
Some spies actually assisinated few north korean defectors and bombed south korean airplane... Some also abducted few Japanese and koreans. They even assasinanted his half brother in Malaysia... North Korean spies are real...
If I remember correctly, when North Korean defectors come to Korea, they go through this 3-month (or 6. I don't remember) process within the National Intelligence Service of Korea to learn about South Korea and its culture and all (also that's where NIS does their screening of who's spy and who is civilian). I was told by a few North Korean defectors (my parents owned a business that hired North Korean defectors) that North Korea wants to know about this process. Also, once they get the defector status, it's easier for them to do their job as a spy in South Korea. I'm sure Korean NIS will monitor these defectors, but I can't imagine it being too thorough since there are just too many defectors.
Mason K. North Korean refugees arriving in South Korea first get investigated for 3 months at the NIS. It includes solitary confinement in their own bedrooms, series of interviews, fact checks, lie detector tests, etc. Then they are moved to what's called "Hanawon" where for 3 month, they are trained on how to live in South Korea. They are given basic training like how to do banking, to operate internet, taking transit, how to get jobs.. all the stuff in modern countries that most people take for granted. After they graduate from Hanawon, they are then sent to the cities of their choosing. If too many choose Seoul, they take straws to see who gets Seoul. They are given government funded apartments, with monthly stipends, as well as plethora of social welfare programs including free tuition and admittance (without having to take university entrance exams) towards any South Korean university of their choosing. Many are able to take advantage of these benefits, but a number of them also, still have difficulty adjusting their lives to new South Korean way of life.
I taught English in SK and I taught 4 kids who were born in NK. I would never have known if my co-workers hadn't told me. They looked and acted like normal kids. The other kids didn't treat them any differently. Prejudice and fear is taught, if not by parents, then by society
I find it interesting that they don't consider the high pressure of South Korean society, be it with education, beauty standards etc. Even people from other capitalist countries would find it difficult to adapt to that. I know people of Korean ethnicity born in other countries who moved to South Korea, and many of them really struggled with that.
I personally believe that she was abducted. She was famous in South Korea so she was in the public eye and her talking about the North will reach to many people. The most likely reason she was abducted was because she was a threat to the North. If she did return voluntarily it would most likely be because of her parents but that's it.
So much paranoia. From both sides. Please South Korea, don't lose your compassion because of fear of betrayal. Protect yourself in other, more productive ways. Thank you ASIAN BOSS for presenting such an unbiased, boots-on-the-ground report, as always.
We are still at War with North Korea, The 1st Korean war was technically never ended. That is why every Korean man still must go to the military for 2 years. A lot of foreigners often forget about this simple fact. Not only her but there might be a lot of another North Korean spies in South Korean and American societies in the name of "defectors" because after South Korea achieved economic success in the 80's Northern Kim dynasty changed their goal to "inside revolution" in the South Korean society rather than all out war with South Korea and the United States of America.
The dialect spoken in Seoul was very similar to the one spoken in Pyongyang before the 80s. What we now regard as the Seoul dialect is the result of decades of melting of several southern dialects as more and more people from the Southern provinces started moving to Seoul. Seoul is literally a melting pot of different dialects.
Your previous interviews with North Koreans were really insightful. Recently, the NYTimes published an article about another North Korean defector to South Korea that wanted to return to North Korea. The comments on the article were dishearteningly ignorant, even the comments that were the most voted on. The NYTimes article itself didn't touch on the feelings that North Koreans had like your previous interviews did. The general feeling among NYTimes commenters (not really the brightest bunch) was that the North Korean was crazy for wanting to return to North Korea. They can't fathom why anyone would want to return. A lot of misunderstanding and ignorance about North Korea, people generally think that North Korea hasn't changed since the 1990s. But thanks to your interview and also some other sources (e.g. Ask a North Korean), I knew that its actually really hard for defectors to assimilate in South Korea. Modern society has a way of making someone feel worthless and isolated, and South Korea, especially so, I imagine. As someone who has been depressed and suicidal despite living in a modern society (US), I can understand their plight. The portions of the interview that touched the topic of suicide with the young man, especially stood out to me. Anyway, thanks for doing a great job of making some of us less ignorant.
Yes,she was taken back to N.K. and unspeakable things were done to her,and then made to say things,like a p.o.w. I don't think her captors are very forgiving,ever.I hope God watches over all the people in N.K.I will be praying for them.They all need to be freed!!!
i feel miserable for my divided country....Korean peninsula somewhat eventually became Soviet and US's game field.....it is so sad that they're becoming friends but North and South are pointing Rifiles at each other
I don't think many of the people in the comments realize what it's like in SK. You would be suspicious of defectors too if you were at ends with a bordering country.
As a foreigner, I love the depths you delve into to discuss from every angle and aspect the mystery of long lost brothers being North and South Korea. It is very informational and interesting. Thank you for all that you do!
99% yes.. she was abducted. China simply helped North Korea.. Just as in EU, for example the German speaker spy world is aiding the ex-KGB (Stasi) if there is a foreign victim of commies in Germany.
Are you going to ask north koreans what they think about this situation? I mean i assume they're going to say she was coerced but I think it'd be interesting to hear what they think about it.
I don't know why people are saying that they are disappointed by the people who were interviewed. There were only two people in the interview that said that they thought she was a spy, everyone else said they thought she was kidnapped. (plus some of them said that they were scared for North Koreans) What makes me disappointed are the people that seemed to have watched only the first minute of the video (where the two people who thought that she was a spy appeared in) and are quick to assume that the rest of the interviewees thought the same and in conclusion did not watch the rest of the video.
I always appreciate this channel, Asian boss. you guys are spreading diverse issues happening in Asia to the world, and I believe that we can find out more reliable and efficient resolutions if we keep talking about these issues together regardless of anything such as ethnicity, nationality, etc... thanks for making this video Asian boss.
Yeah it was clear that she was abducted or her parents were threatened into making her come back. She looked like she was going to cry and kept looking off screen in one direction. I imagine she will still be executed, but might be saving her parents by giving the speech. She isn't a spy just because she appeared on North Korean TV XD they are trying to save face either by making her denounce SK, half the South Koreans don't seem to understand being deceived and say "she got a hero's welcome"
This video made me a bit sad. Their viewpoints on how many defectors are spies reminded me of what people in America are saying about Syrian refugees and immigrants. I know the world is a cynical place now, but we should try to see the best in people and not judge a whole race by the action of one person.
Oh please foreigners...You guys know nothing about the relationship, historic incidents and current situation between S.K and N.K. Are you guys saying the interviewees are xenophobic? and they have prejudice? Many Koreans may think you are naive. The situation of Korean Pennisula is different from your countries. Especially American viewers. Imagine 1980s Soviet Union. Imagine that 1980s Soviet Union is in the territory of Canada instead of Canada. Yes, just above US border. And can you still say "Soviet spies? Oh there are no such thing". There are North Korean spies in South Korea(vice versa). Personally I don't think she is spy and I think most of North Korean defectors are innocent but are there North Korean spies in South Korea? Yes. That is also true.
10% is a HUGE figure, dude. One out of ten North Koreans are spies? WHAT? These South Koreans are WAY too suspicious of North Koreans defectors. Give the defectors a break. Hopefully, these interviewees don't represent popular opinion. You xenophobes are a joke. Don't look down on the rest of the world (or "foreigners" as you say).
Nobody is denying that North Korea has sent tens of thousands of spies and assassins into South Korea, many of whom have wreaked havoc. But at the same time, if Canada was taken over by a bunch of murderous communists, those of us in America would never turn those who sought safety in our arms. They are brothers and sisters to us. West Germans never turned East German escapees away either. Nor would any of us stigmatize or exclude them from social life.
Justin M it's not xenophobia when you discriminate against or exclude your own people, simply for the crime of being born under a cruel dictator. It's just mean with a bit of crazy and stupid.
One of my closest friends is South Korean, raised since middle school in the US. I was so surprised at her hostility towards North Koreans, like distrust of defectors and fierce opposition to reunification. She described them like an alien species entirely different, culturally at least, from South Koreans. I never understood it. Is this being taught in schools or is it because of NK provocations at the border/sea of japan or do parents pass on this prejudice to their kids?
Actually, South Korean Intelligence agency has caught some North Korean spies among those defectors. It's always good to be cautious for national security.
I have a friend who is North Korean defector, and she said that even though she cares for other defectors, she can't trust them all, just in case they are spies sent by the government to bring her back. She has also said that life is hard for her in South Korea, and she is trying to get into the US because of how harsh the people there treat her.
Because of her action, now most South Koreans would probably have even more bad perception towards North Korean defectors. Btw, to Asian Boss. It would be great if you ask North Korean defectors of their opinions. Great job for this video!
Hello, I'm south korean and seeing these comments makes me sad:( I know that there are some south koreans xenophobic but there are a lot of people who want to help NK defectors. South korean government give them money, apartment, and opportunity to go to universities for free with our taxes. We educate them how to use credit cards, get a license, use transportation, use computers,and etc before they come to our community(they say these education helped them a lot). We have volunteers to help them, one person for a family. And I'm one of those volunteers who are trying to reduce the gap between SK and NK people. South korea is very conservative country but we are gradually changing and our perception on NK people are also changing. Actually we are getting donations more and more, year after year, and there are clubs in some universities where SK students and NK students can help and understand each other:) So please don't just say they should go to US because we are trying to do our best:(
Nobody denies the generous benefits that the South Korean taxpayers give to North Korean refugees. But what happens to a child when you give it wonderful organic food, the perfect rigorous education, lots of toys, and the best healthcare, yet it's mother, father, and everyone else never give it a single hug or any sign of love or affection or even human touch from the day of its birth? Will it be healthy? Will it even learn to walk if it has no mother to walk to? The government and NGOs give everything materially. But South Korea is so competitive, rigorous, cutthroat, and expensive even for established South Koreans. And for those who grew up in the hermit kingdom, it's especially painful and nearly impossible to cope. When defectors complain about South Korea, they don't complain that they don't have a Mercedes and a flashy condo in Gangnam district. It's that South Korean life and society are too competetive, fast, cold, and lonely. That's why defectors have 2.5x South Korea's already astronomical suicide rate. Rather than just money and benefits from the government, which is important, South Korean people should make an effort to bond with and befriend North Koreans on a personal level. Even those who are a bit shy or socially awkward should be engaged and embraced by ordinary people. If 60,000 South Koreans take one defector as a friend, every defector will have two friends and will not feel lonely.
So basically what I've learned is that South Korea is just like other countries dealing with foreigners/refugees. The fact that they used to be one country doesn't seem to have much bearing on the issue. There are those who see the humanity aspect and empathize with the struggle defectors face, while others focus on the security and safety aspect (spies). There are so many parallels between the viewpoints of the South Koreans in this video and the perspectives of US citizens about Syrian refugees, you could almost swap the dialogue! Replace spy with terrorist and there you go. Now before anyone starts shouting at me about how different these two issues are, I want to say yes, of course they aren't exactly the same. I'm just stepping back and looking at the broad picture. Basically people are people and will always be scared of what is different.
This goes to show how much prejudice there still is against North Koreans. I'm disappointed at the attitudes of the majority of the people interviewed.
eugenemetayhas Easy thing to say as a foreigner who sees North koreans only as refugees. To South Koreans, they are enemy. You know, no peace treaty was signed to end the Korean war. The war is still ongoing and South Koreans have no other choice but to defend themselves; sad, but that's the reality.
The younger generator of South Koreans will care less and less about their Northern counterpart. While the younger generation of North Koreans are starting to further crave information from the outside world.
She was clearly being forced to say those things in the video? How was that not obvious. NK didn't want her presence on tv to be seen by any NK civilians
If you look at that defectors recent vid in NK she looks scared and her hair has been cut off. It's common practice to some cultures to cut the hair of "traitors" or as form of punishment. She was abducted and threatened.
That woman looked swollen, covered in makeup (which is an extreme LUXURY in NK), and was "crying" without shedding any tears. Girl was not a spy. It's actually commonly said from people that were captured and defected again that they were forced to give false testimonies to the North Korean people.
WTF? South Koreans think North Koreans as the same ethnic group, and they were educated like that. That's the fundamental reason why they support defectors specially. SK help them to escape and provide money for settle down here. Defectors receive special admissions and scholarships to make it easier for them to enter and graduate university. And also basic living expenses, housing subsidies, free medical protection, vocational training and wages... Since they are treated as 'complete' Koreans, they don't need to go through a special procedure for acquiring citizenship, and currently there's 2 members of the National Assembly who were defectors. If South Koreans hate or fear North Koreans, why would they support like that? The point is, 'from NK' is the reason why they more special benefits than foreigners, but not a factor of fear. The reason they fear in this video is about national security. There were many NK spies in SK in reality(No joke, they sent really a lot of spies each other), even by disguising spies as defectors. And the surest way to determine that case of spies is, whether they return to NK later like her. But this way is not perfect, and also meaningless to block spies in advance. So they are afraid of situation about spies coming and going freely. However, they will not monitor or deport defectors. This video is made 3 years ago, but the way to accept or managed defectors has not changed at all. Why would they do that? Once again, they are same Korean. Interviewees in this video think 5-10% of North Korean defectors are spies, but they also paid for defectors and made them members of the National Assembly. Because they think it is more valuable to save the same people than to be in danger from spies. You guys should focus on this.
@@Dom_om_nom wtf do you want to say? I didn't say they are not. I said, 'same ethnic group' is only reason why they give them special benefits. The point is, 'from North Korea' is good thing to South Korean. If South Koreans really hate or fear North Koreans, they will shoot every defectors at DMZ. Because *We* *are* *still* *at* *war* can't you still understand?
As South Korean, I'm truly disappointed in the view of non knoreans. WE ARE IN THE STATE OF WAR FOR 60 YEARS NOW, and have to worry about every single military provocation. How many times have you seen NK on the news? How many times have you actually worried about them? How many times have you listened to your family member evacuating from the 'liberation army'?, as these 'racism' comments I am reading is written by someone who have never been to such a situation. Before making any judgement, please check the truth OF both side
Wow it is not appropriate to call commentors 'racism' so easily. From what I saw they just want to discuss this topic and tbh many of the comments do make sense. Questioning others doesn't make your statement strong.
state of war bruh.... you have the full support of every top tier nation, North fighting you would be like a death sentence for them, what I see is a weak army only fuelled by the black market, and a figurehead who is joke in the international community aka Rocket Man lmfao. I don't want to pass judgement on south korean but so far from what I seen on a society that values looks above all else Im not surprised by these reactions.
I see your point.. I guess from the outside we only see those North Korean people who scaped as people who suffered a lot and I guess we feel bad for them. And we didn't think of all the political issues going on. I'm sorry if someone was rude, I agree with your point :)
@@오렌지-k6d Yeah but South Korea is allied with the U.S. and there are about 24,000 U.S. military personnell stationed there. Do you think the U.S. government will allow North Korea to even launch a nuclear weapon into South Korea? With that dude Trump at the helm, he's crazy enough to strike at them like that and with U.S. missiles pointed at them monitored by satellites all he has to do is give the command to strike. South Korea is safer than you think. North Korea will suffer more if that happens.
I'm Korean and I lived in the country for the majority of my life. People don't give a shit about North Koreans and if they do, there's definitely prejudice and very little fear. People cower more when they meet foreigners XD. Values like compassion for everyone is definitely not emphasized enough and I hope that our society can change to try to understand each people who are different more.
Lisa Mieth no.if they are very well informed. They should know that girl was forced to do that video ,they know only kim Jong un and not the situation of north korean defectors and north korea people
I think she was manipulated to return by threat to her family & forced by the N Korean regime to make that video. We have seen similar techniques used by the regime before
In India, we like Koreans alot no matter whether they are from North or South or even Yanbian Koreans. Common Korean people have suffered alot throughout the last 2000 years of their history and they all certainly deserve a stable life. We understand the pain of the country division the most as it happened to us as well. We see Korea as One and wish to see it unified as early as possible. However, I really feel sad when some Southerners taunt Northerners in their country as "𝗗𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿" 탈북자 & 새터민 and look down upon them as less deserving citizens. Today's generation of South Korea must read the polical history of what happened in their country from 1963 to 1980. They were on the verge of completely becoming a country under 𝑌𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 same as the 𝐾𝑖𝑚 𝑒𝑟𝑎 in the North. Even we have 100s of people defecting to India every year from 𝑃𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛 & 𝐴𝑓𝑔ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛 trying to escape - 𝐸𝑥𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝐸𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 & 𝐸𝑥𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛. Every single person is - 𝑊𝑒𝑙𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑑, 𝐶𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑑 & 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑑 in India. Never even once, does even a single Indian call these defectors as - 𝑃𝑎𝑎𝑘𝑖.
so funny to read comments who live so far away from NK and never have serious danger from Nk, and also don't know NK invaded SK first and still launches missile at night, but keep blaming South Korea. LOL.
I'm not from Korea but I do know that South Korea gets threats from the North. and yes, I know NK invaded the South. After WW2, Soviet Union and the US divided Korea in half. Kim Il-Sung wanted the whole Korea to be like the North. So US stepped in to help the South fight the North Koreans. After the fighting stops, US draw the borderline 38th Parallel separating the two. The DMZ, one of the most heavily guarded borders in the world. and Korea is still at war. Some people don't know some people do know. correct me if i'm wrong.
Nobody is blaming South Korea. We're just asking that you not allow your anger, fear, and indignation over the crimes of Fat Kim and his forefathers to cause you to feel anger and prejudice towards North Korean defectors. These are innocent, starving people who are victims of the most heinous NK regime crimes. It's terrible that you in Seoul, one of the greatest thriving metropolises in the world, still live under the daily threat of artillery fire and nuclear attacks. But these people have been forced to watch their own families executed, are forbidden to cry for them, are reduced to considering themselves lucky to find a rat to eat, and are threatened with labor camp sentences for *not* crying over the death of the bastard who did this to them. Please don't turn your anger towards them when they seek safety and freedom in your arms.
Yes. But do you also know that North Korea and South Korea had a war? Yes we are same people, but at the same time, us people are the ones who pointed guns at each other and killed each others' people. You say North Korean people but those same North Korean people used to be in North Korean armies. It's very complicated. We need to take care of them, but we are also still at a war with them. It is very reasonable that some people don't feel as comfortable with them. At least the S.Korean government is supporting those refugees a lot. And the war is continuing. Several Korean army soldiers have died in recent years from North Korean shootings. They are always on the news. These foreigners say Koreans are being too naive about all these North Korean missiles but of course we are the ones who fear the most. We even have an army. And people actually die from the North Koreans! And look at all these FOREIGNERS who say there are no spies. It's disgusting. ew. Also, I have been to North Korea about 10 years ago. They do speak very different language. They speak with different accents, different expressions, different words, etc. I actually couldn't understand anything they said. We are same Koreans, but we are very different. There is a huge gap we need to overcome in order to be together. It's not something South Koreans are at fault for saying we are too different. We actually cannot really communicate.
Most won't or can't understand till you've stood at that DMZ pulling guard and wondering if today is the day that the frog decides to hop. I was there and if anything I think S.Korea isn't being as hard as it should be on the North. I mean I feel bad for the people up north but at the same times how many times will they let their government starve them and brutalize them for simple mistakes or for speaking their minds I mean even a dog will bite you if you mistreat it enough.
As a Korean, i'm really ashamed of these defensive S.Korean comments. The top comments here are talking about the stupid logic and ignorance of some interviewee, who said she would be a spy, and the anger/the discrimination towards N.Korean defectors of S.Korean. Korean history and the fact that Korean war doesn't terminate jet can not be a basis for the discrimination towards N.korea defectors. Get the context and the point.
I totally understand that you lot are confused by the attitude that south Koreans are having on North Korean defectors. Hate the country but not the people, right? I do agree that the defectors have to get a fair chance, and they should not be discriminated. However the Korean society is not stable enough to extend such generosities even to their "enemies". Remember, although the country seems wealthy and developed, Korea is a war zone. Korean war has never ended and the majority of Koreans conceive North Korea as the biggest enemy. Strong anti-North Korean sentiment is almost our identity now. And many people can't, and don't want to separate the North Korean "State" and the North Korean "people". Hope that make some sense.
Jenn Jenn Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. South Korea is not a war zone. Don't be dramatic. They are technically still at war, but don't call beautiful, prosperous South Korea a war zone. South Korean society, like other xenophobic, "homogeneous" societies, need to change.
I'm so amazed to see somebody says S.Koreans are IGNORANT to N.Korea, when we're living in the only country which actually face it. Do you even know how many S.Korean people have lost their body parts due to N.Korean attack in last 10 years?
I imagine it would be nice for there to be a set town or city where NK defectors can be placed so that they are among other NK defectors to have a community of their own in South Korea while they still live among the South Koreans. Unfortunately, I think that would totally freak out any SK citizens living in or around said towns and would probably be a big mess. However, the most comforting thing in a new environment is something familiar. That's why you see ex pats of the same national origin in various countries trying to have relations with each other. Like americans in china will try to maintain relations with other americans in china bc its familiar and that familiarity is a genuine basis for some sort of friendship.
Communications technology. Samsung has taken the world by storm. They don't have smartphones in North Korea (yet). If they do now, it's because someone has been observing the outside world...who else but spies? Remember, technology is always changing, which also improves the military. They are watching for advancements and breakthroughs so they can be one step ahead of their enemies.
I just copied and past my comment, anyways here you go lol there are "some" spies disguised as defectors(there are nearly more than 100,000 North Korean defectors worldwide, don't say I'm a bigot unless you know all of them in depth), even Tae-young Ho(North Korean elite defector worked in British embassy) said there can be spies among defectors cuz it's the most safe and guaranteed way of doing it. So, Why? cuz the defectors can have direct contact with the South Korean intelligence agency(CIA of Korea) and other political organizations. North Korean defectors claimed that they received phone calls from North Korean authorities encouraging them to work as spies(how do they know their contact information?? - there's a spy)(Newsis, Jul 21, 2017,) The spy activities not only limited to political ones, but some pointless(in our perspective, quite random) activities: such as, watching other defectors who are active in South Korean society; North Korean propagandas; watching and reporting random things like how TV station works, railroads work, mobile phones work(?!)' or, last but not least, just provoking social confusion in South Korea. So yeah, considering these facts, I think there's a high chance of this woman being a spy, to cause a social confusion and raise the public opinion to not to take North Korean defectors in South Korea, because NK has been asking SK to send them back. Show less
I how the guy in the dark blue shirt at the end thinks. More people should try to put themselves in others shoes and not judge based on where people come from
I really appreciated this piece. I felt the last gentlemen who spoke did an excellent job of showing the understanding and empathy the South Koreans feel for those who come from the North.
South Koreans face a direct threat of North Korea every day.In the past 60 years, there have been many cases of North Korea spies.And these abductees make defectors living in South Korean more difficult to adapt. This video is not talking about North Korean defectors, it talks about abductees and as, South Korean I hope that you guys understand that North Korea's threat to us is real. Sorry for my bad English.
Thank you for the video. Vocalizing means a lot but yet I'm not sure this could mean a thing to make changes within Korea.. anyhow I am so into your videos and passion
Wow it was only the guy at the end b4 Steve summed up that seemed to want to give north Koreans a chance. i thought the majority of south Koreans would be sympathetic, but that was not my takeaway.
way2jaded1 I've heard that it's mostly the older generations that have ties to family in North Korea that want reunification. The younger generation really don't think about them or care for the most part and it makes sense, I'd care about if my brother was in trouble but I wouldn't give a second of thought to the family of my grandfather's brother that was in trouble.
I can give the most objective, balanced information on this matter. Yes, there are "some" spies disguised as defectors(there are nearly more than 100,000 North Korean defectors worldwide, don't say I'm a bigot unless you know all of them in depth), even Tae-young Ho(North Korean elite defector worked in British embassy) said there can be spies among defectors cuz it's the most safe and guaranteed way of doing it. So, Why? cuz the defectors can have direct contact with the South Korean intelligence agency(CIA of Korea) and other political organizations. North Korean defectors claimed that they received phone calls from North Korean authorities encouraging them to work as spies(how do they know their contact information?? - there's a spy)(Newsis, Jul 21, 2017,) The spy activities not only limited to political ones, but some pointless(in our perspective, quite random) activities: such as, watching other defectors who are active in South Korean society; North Korean propagandas; watching and reporting random things like how TV station works, railroads work, mobile phones work(?!)' or, last but not least, just provoking social confusion in South Korea. So yeah, considering these facts, I think there's a high chance of this woman being a spy, to cause a social confusion and raise the public opinion to not to take North Korean defectors in South Korea, because NK has been asking SK to send them back.
It's stupid Koreans like you who give all Koreans a bad name. Your moronic comment displayed how stupid you really are. Who anointed you an expert on North Korean spies? Have you gone around to every corner of South Korea and thoroughly vetted every single 51 million people to know who is or isn't a spy.? Where did you come up what that fanciful number of 100,000? Of course, you plucked it from your ossified noggin. I think you're the spy in the guise of some dumb want-to-be expert. You know nothing except the back of your ass. Instead of having empathy for their plight and difficult lives of fellow Koreans, you are show derision and loathing, which clearly reflects your self loathing. You're a self indulgent hater of north Koreans for no other reason than to hate them because you have a crappy, inconsequential existence. Have a nice day--idiot!
I only agree with the last guy in blue. The other people that are interviewed just proved why NK defectors face such a huge challenge in integrating into SK society. Like what the last guy said, learn to understand how tough it is for them to cross the river and the jungle, travelling across China, Laos, Thailand to seek asylum - put ourselves in their shoes. I also honestly do not understand why the SKeans are overly worried about being spied and all that. It just shows that they are ignorant on the issues that NKeans are facing.
North koreans are given the best possible tools to integrate into society. They are given mandatory 6 month classes on south korean society, given free housing and allowance, a free pass to any university of their choice, and the list goes on. It is not our fault when they decide they cannot handle responsibilities in a capitalistic system and decide to go back. Please don't call us ignorant when you yourself are ignorant on why South koreans are worried about spies.
If the North Korean woman was a spy, what whould she spy on amongst everyday citizens, where do the work or how they live their lifes? Whouldn't she be put by her government in a state officer position? And beyond that, one of the first interviewer said she was kidnapped in China, as a result the North Korean government found an opportunity to do propaganda of the operator type.
There is a debate going on how to name people who ran out of N.K. They could be called either "escapees" or "defectors" where as only few could get "refugee" status.
Do foreigners here even know the history of NK spies in SK? There were heaps of them in the past until recent years. And it's NOT possible that she could go back to NK. Please learn the history before judging us, South Korean.
Gourmet Journey but this does not mean that some South Koreans can mistreat North Koreans.These are innocent, starving people who are victims of the most heinous NK regime crimes. Mostly of north koreans have been forced to watch their own families executed, are forbidden to cry for them, are reduced to considering themselves lucky to find a rat to eat, and are threatened with labor camp sentences for not crying over the death of the bastard who did this to them.
This does not mean that everything you see on the internet is true which means her tear is FAKE! Just like you, foreigners judge South Korean here without knowing the truth. Another point is that if she was "captured/seized" by North Korean "in South Korea," how did they come to South Korea? Aren't they considered SPIES? The focal point is that how she moved back and forth NK? And she couldn't be on TV if she was captured. Do you really think NK allows her to be on TV if they really captured her? I don't think so.
Kim Jong-Un's aunt and uncle live in New York. They left after his mother died because they were afraid of losing their power and position and being executed. They are probably the only people that can afford the trip.
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She definitely was taken against her will or coerced. Such as "We know who your family is (insert proof here), so return or they die." There's no way she left of her own accord. She clearly had it better than others in the south. Nor was she a spy if they check them out before letting them in.
I m little bit unsatisfied with south korean interviewers.
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I totally agree with the guy at the end. don't judge them because of where they come from. it is already hard for North Koreans to escape through the Tumen River. Best way is to accommodate them. Put yourself in their shoes before making any judgements.
Kee Lee he also looks like markiplier
Clorox Bleach Like a more Asian one.
I know I'm a bit late, but I find this interesting. Most of us in the comment section who have an "outside perspective" have the opinion that South Koreans ought to show more compassion towards the North Koreans. But in our own countries, we are usually just as afraid of taking in immigrants as the South Koreans. I live in Europe, and it's clear that a large portion of Europeans think that immigrants will change our culture and destroy Europe from the inside. That is the exact same fear that these South Koreans seem to be having! Also, the immigrants who make the trip to Europe have to go through extreme hardships, so the thing that 'the guy at the end' said applies to Europe as well. However, is there some logic to the fear? It's only if we can understand this fear that we avoid future friction. Nationalism is growing in Europe, and the youth in South Korea are negative towards reunification, and the fear we hold seems to be of the same origin. What can we learn from one another?
@@franciscobaca5734 I know I'm two years late but Markiplier is part Korean.
Criller excellent point! Even as I watched this video I thought that it was interesting that S.Koreans look at N.Koreans the same way many people view immigrants, or people that flee war-torn countries.
I am someone who believes everyone deserves respect unless they give you a reason to take it away. I think we could all use a little more open mindedness because we learn a lot from one another
I reckon that North Korean girl was abducted by North Korean government while she was staying with her husband in one of cities in China near the North Korean border 4 months ago. As one of interviewees said in the video, the North Korean girl looked like a person forced to give an interview for North Korean media.
Moreover, I recently watched this Korean TV show starring North Korean defectors and their impression was that she was not a spy as a real spy would never appear on South Korean media.
Yeah, that's my first guess too. Scary and very unfortunate for her :(
Care to share which TV show and episode it was?
I'm not sure but do you guys think she was killed after she gave the video
I don't really think, she was abducted. In her speech for NK press she talks about her parents - maybe, the North Korea's government let her know that if she won't return something bad might happen to them?
If there is any evidence to suggest her or her family were being threatened then it's still coercion and not much different to being abducted really. I feel that during that interview she was terrified about what might happen to her later. The interviews are all about the North Korean image, if they can make it look like she returned on her own then they are blameless in the eyes of the those watching.
Nah, that girl was abducted. Her boyfriend that she was meeting or smth was probably paid by the nk government to get her to go back to china so they could take her from there. And why would they kill her when she could be of valuable use in this way. Getting sk to be more suspicious of defectors. Wanting a more rigid process, so they can't end up in sk. Wanting her to be the spokesperson for "don't defect to sk, it's horrible! even this celebrity hated being there!" and i can't believe how many people they think were spies. my guess was less than 1%.
maybe not paid by the nk government but threatened
@@namuh5799 yes, exactly ... I feel that was the sole thinking of NK while shooting this video ... To aware NKs of bad side of SK . and also to make SK people negative about NK people so that NKs would feel difficulty residing in SK
I wonder if this “boyfriend” was someone she met online or had she met him in person before? If it is someone she met online than I believe whatever reason she was given by him was a trap to take her back. I don’t even understand why a nk would travel to China, knowing that China is willing to return escapees.
i was so happy when the last guy interviewed actually mentioned to put yourself in the defectors shoes before judging.. that’s so true! it’s not like anyone has asked to be born into the crazy nation of north korea and of course they’d find it difficult to intergrate into south korean society, they’ve just spend their lives believing that kim jong un is a God..
totally agree that the north koreans need as much support, love and understanding as they can get. none of their situation is their fault - obviously they didn’t leave their home country for fun.
A bit late but i too felt relieved that at least there was one one person amongst all interviewed that has good sense & compassion.
Yes, nobody can choose where we're born. We need to be more empathetic towards others & don't be quick to judge.
I thought so too!! I'm glad he made that statement after interviewing all those people who had no idea about North Korea. It triggers me that I'm more interested on this subject living all the way here in Mexico than they are, living literally above them speaking the same language.
Apperantly in an interview with a defector he said a lot of the youth don't believe that stuff but can't talk about it out of fear so they just go along with it.
I can't believe how many people thought she was a spy
Ahasver, you're right. There are also stupid people in Korea electing Moon.
Ahasver we here in America voted for Trump. I know exactly what you're talking about.
You also had a corrupt inhuman hag as an alternative, so good job on that too. No wonder you had to go with the orange man.
massive piggy Don't blame me. I voted for Sanders. Even on election day.
I clearly remember that after 911, also after the boston marathon, americans massively behaved strange towards arab race
what you are saying is like
"I can't believe how many people thought they are terrorist"
I can make another example with your behaves while black riot arrised or syrian refugees
our instincts are similar to each other's ones cause we all are humans and humans don't like to be scared
scares make people being careful and suspicious
especially if the case is full of simillar precedents
The dude at the end! He ain't only good lookin but he had the best response to! Empathy is so important.
Sexual attraction and looks are more important though
Indian Fascist wth
Exactly haha
askjiir gotta love it when people try to take the piss out of an optimistic comment. You have the personality of a an old shoe
@@MP-ut6eb ...ok
When she was in SK she looked very happy. When she was back in NK where she said she wanted to be she acted scared and crying. It seems obvious to me.
The real question is that, is she still alive after making that video.
Dang this comment really didn’t age wellz
She got killed..?
many assume she’s been killed or tortured
@@juliusmendoza8382 what happened?
I wouldnt be surprised if she was tortured and killed after that video. The guy assuming that shes a spy because she was on TV is as dumb as they come and believe exactly what NK wants people to believe.
It was a little disheartening to hear the level of wariness in their voices when they talked about North Korean defectors. Just like North Korean defectors have no choice in where they come from, I had no choice in being adopted and taken away from Korea. Can you really blame us for being different? I view North Korean defectors and North Korea like an abusive relationship. They flee even though it terrifies them to do so. They talk about their experiences even at personal risk. Or they stay silent about their past out of fear that people may call them needy or dislike them for no other reason than not understanding what the abused person went through. Leaving an abusive relationship is scary. Unfortunately, some of those who have been abused return to their abusers out of fear. At the very least you can't say that that life is an easy one when so many of their decisions revolve around fear and instability. I imagine a little more compassion and effort to sympathize would go a long way.
Hi, actually, I can understand why do people think that.. I'm French, and we often hear from the news some crimes committed by ''arab'' people (without offence). And there also are some terrorist stuff, so many French people have a and opinion toward them. I'm not South Korean, but I think that over there, the medias also have a big impact on people thought, and make a part of the South Korean distrustful towards North Korean defectors. (I'm not trying to say if that's good or bad, I'm not Korean so I can't really know, but I'm just trying to explain people's reactions).
Should I understand that you're from North Korea ?
I don't think I am, please don't reinterpret my words. In this specific case, we're not talking about reunification of the two Koreas, we're talking about the current perception of defectors so right off the bat the majority of what you're talking about is irrelevant to what I initially posted. At least two people in this video acknowledge that this incident will damage the perception of defectors and one of the men interviewed assumes that this incident will encourage more South Koreans to see all defectors as spies. That is a huge generalization and one that some people make when they face an unknown. Of course they live in very different worlds but South Koreans have vastly more opportunities to help and sympathize than North Koreans. It's like asking a poor person to put in an equal amount of money as a rich person. It may be the same sum but it has very different consequences for the two individuals. Unlike you, I'm not trying to generalize the entire country. I'm talking specifically about these people being wary despite not personally knowing a North Korean defector. When the one woman says she doesn't ever really think about defectors and yet still comes up with a percentage of defectors who are spies. How many defectors do you think this woman knows? Many people in the video are quick to make assumptions about defectors despite only one maybe two actually having met a defector. This is the kind of environment where bigotry and xenophobia flourish. Without the more powerful helping to bridge the divide with respect and compassion, the marginalized groups will continue to be villainized and ostracized. No matter what your views are about the two Koreas, making assumptions about people regardless of their character is a flawed way of looking at the world. Normal perhaps, but deeply flawed.
Oh wups..the guy I was responding to decided to say something offensive so I reported his comment but accidentally removed his initial post as well. I'm not good with this youtube business :P
I totally agree with you Jee Hei !
And sorry, I just reread your comment and understood, you're from South Korea and you were adopted and now you live in another country, right ?
Correct :)
What is the point in a spy posing as a civilian? What information could North Korea possibly gather that they do not already have?
I'm guessing they are afraid of sabotage and terrorism, maybe?
Some spies actually assisinated few north korean defectors and bombed south korean airplane... Some also abducted few Japanese and koreans. They even assasinanted his half brother in Malaysia... North Korean spies are real...
byun jeeyin none of that is confirmed tho
If I remember correctly, when North Korean defectors come to Korea, they go through this 3-month (or 6. I don't remember) process within the National Intelligence Service of Korea to learn about South Korea and its culture and all (also that's where NIS does their screening of who's spy and who is civilian). I was told by a few North Korean defectors (my parents owned a business that hired North Korean defectors) that North Korea wants to know about this process. Also, once they get the defector status, it's easier for them to do their job as a spy in South Korea. I'm sure Korean NIS will monitor these defectors, but I can't imagine it being too thorough since there are just too many defectors.
Mason K. North Korean refugees arriving in South Korea first get investigated for 3 months at the NIS. It includes solitary confinement in their own bedrooms, series of interviews, fact checks, lie detector tests, etc. Then they are moved to what's called "Hanawon" where for 3 month, they are trained on how to live in South Korea. They are given basic training like how to do banking, to operate internet, taking transit, how to get jobs.. all the stuff in modern countries that most people take for granted. After they graduate from Hanawon, they are then sent to the cities of their choosing. If too many choose Seoul, they take straws to see who gets Seoul. They are given government funded apartments, with monthly stipends, as well as plethora of social welfare programs including free tuition and admittance (without having to take university entrance exams) towards any South Korean university of their choosing. Many are able to take advantage of these benefits, but a number of them also, still have difficulty adjusting their lives to new South Korean way of life.
I taught English in SK and I taught 4 kids who were born in NK. I would never have known if my co-workers hadn't told me. They looked and acted like normal kids. The other kids didn't treat them any differently. Prejudice and fear is taught, if not by parents, then by society
I GIVE MY RESPECT TO THE LAST GUY WEARING IN BLUE, THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN. I HOPE OTHER SOUTH KOREANS ARE LIKE HIM
I find it interesting that they don't consider the high pressure of South Korean society, be it with education, beauty standards etc. Even people from other capitalist countries would find it difficult to adapt to that. I know people of Korean ethnicity born in other countries who moved to South Korea, and many of them really struggled with that.
I personally believe that she was abducted. She was famous in South Korea so she was in the public eye and her talking about the North will reach to many people. The most likely reason she was abducted was because she was a threat to the North. If she did return voluntarily it would most likely be because of her parents but that's it.
Love the tall handsome man in the blue shirt at the end! So compassionate and the only person to suggest putting yourself in the defectors shoes
At least she had food in South Korea. Besides, the video was nothing but North Korean propaganda if they allowed it to air on TV.
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Excellent point!
So much paranoia. From both sides. Please South Korea, don't lose your compassion because of fear of betrayal. Protect yourself in other, more productive ways. Thank you ASIAN BOSS for presenting such an unbiased, boots-on-the-ground report, as always.
This has become one of my favorite channels on UA-cam!!
We are still at War with North Korea, The 1st Korean war was technically never ended. That is why every Korean man still must go to the military for 2 years. A lot of foreigners often forget about this simple fact. Not only her but there might be a lot of another North Korean spies in South Korean and American societies in the name of "defectors" because after South Korea achieved economic success in the 80's Northern Kim dynasty changed their goal to "inside revolution" in the South Korean society rather than all out war with South Korea and the United States of America.
The dialect spoken in Seoul was very similar to the one spoken in Pyongyang before the 80s. What we now regard as the Seoul dialect is the result of decades of melting of several southern dialects as more and more people from the Southern provinces started moving to Seoul. Seoul is literally a melting pot of different dialects.
Love the People, hate the Government.
This.
Your previous interviews with North Koreans were really insightful. Recently, the NYTimes published an article about another North Korean defector to South Korea that wanted to return to North Korea. The comments on the article were dishearteningly ignorant, even the comments that were the most voted on. The NYTimes article itself didn't touch on the feelings that North Koreans had like your previous interviews did. The general feeling among NYTimes commenters (not really the brightest bunch) was that the North Korean was crazy for wanting to return to North Korea. They can't fathom why anyone would want to return. A lot of misunderstanding and ignorance about North Korea, people generally think that North Korea hasn't changed since the 1990s. But thanks to your interview and also some other sources (e.g. Ask a North Korean), I knew that its actually really hard for defectors to assimilate in South Korea. Modern society has a way of making someone feel worthless and isolated, and South Korea, especially so, I imagine. As someone who has been depressed and suicidal despite living in a modern society (US), I can understand their plight. The portions of the interview that touched the topic of suicide with the young man, especially stood out to me. Anyway, thanks for doing a great job of making some of us less ignorant.
Yes,she was taken back to N.K. and unspeakable things were done to her,and then made to say things,like a p.o.w. I don't think her captors are very forgiving,ever.I hope God watches over all the people in N.K.I will be praying for them.They all need to be freed!!!
i feel miserable for my divided country....Korean peninsula somewhat eventually became Soviet and US's game field.....it is so sad that they're becoming friends but North and South are pointing Rifiles at each other
아기고양야옹. USA and Russia are not becoming friends!
Really Happenings i mean compared to the 80’s/90s their relationship isnt so bad
Ikr that’s sad
아기고양야옹 We are not friends with Russia, Russia basically creates enemies for America.
4 years later and the relationship between Russia and the USA is at its worst. I say this during Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
The last guy was completely right
Hes smart
I don't think many of the people in the comments realize what it's like in SK. You would be suspicious of defectors too if you were at ends with a bordering country.
As a foreigner, I love the depths you delve into to discuss from every angle and aspect the mystery of long lost brothers being North and South Korea. It is very informational and interesting. Thank you for all that you do!
She probably got abducted.
99% yes.. she was abducted. China simply helped North Korea..
Just as in EU, for example the German speaker spy world is aiding the ex-KGB (Stasi) if there is a foreign victim of commies in Germany.
Are you going to ask north koreans what they think about this situation? I mean i assume they're going to say she was coerced but I think it'd be interesting to hear what they think about it.
I heard from some north Korean defectors's interview that they feel discriminated agaisnt by south Koreans but this another level
If I was a North Korean I would become a spy simply to escape and then never return 😂
LOL i have thought the exact same thing
Well it is not that easy right.
And get assassinated?
North Koreans get plastic surgery and change their identities for a reason in South Korea.
Niska Mo I'd imagine they wouldn't send you over unless they could keep your family hostage. Just in case.
Niska Mo you never come back and then your whole bloodline gets executed? Then you get assassinated by another spy ...
I don't know why people are saying that they are disappointed by the people who were interviewed.
There were only two people in the interview that said that they thought she was a spy, everyone else said they thought she was kidnapped.
(plus some of them said that they were scared for North Koreans)
What makes me disappointed are the people that seemed to have watched only the first minute of the video (where the two people who thought that she was a spy appeared in) and are quick to assume that the rest of the interviewees thought the same and in conclusion did not watch the rest of the video.
Fascinating but at the same time sad as Korea was arbitrarily divided due to foreign interference after World War 2
the USA and Soviets liberating Korea from Japan's disgusting colonization was a blessing and a curse. And now war is a great business.
AirKangLocker Similar to what happened to Germany.
I always appreciate this channel, Asian boss. you guys are spreading diverse issues happening in Asia to the world, and I believe that we can find out more reliable and efficient resolutions if we keep talking about these issues together regardless of anything such as ethnicity, nationality, etc... thanks for making this video Asian boss.
Yeah it was clear that she was abducted or her parents were threatened into making her come back. She looked like she was going to cry and kept looking off screen in one direction. I imagine she will still be executed, but might be saving her parents by giving the speech. She isn't a spy just because she appeared on North Korean TV XD they are trying to save face either by making her denounce SK, half the South Koreans don't seem to understand being deceived and say "she got a hero's welcome"
This video made me a bit sad. Their viewpoints on how many defectors are spies reminded me of what people in America are saying about Syrian refugees and immigrants. I know the world is a cynical place now, but we should try to see the best in people and not judge a whole race by the action of one person.
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Oh please foreigners...You guys know nothing about the relationship, historic incidents and current situation between S.K and N.K. Are you guys saying the interviewees are xenophobic? and they have prejudice? Many Koreans may think you are naive. The situation of Korean Pennisula is different from your countries.
Especially American viewers. Imagine 1980s Soviet Union. Imagine that 1980s Soviet Union is in the territory of Canada instead of Canada. Yes, just above US border. And can you still say "Soviet spies? Oh there are no such thing". There are North Korean spies in South Korea(vice versa). Personally I don't think she is spy and I think most of North Korean defectors are innocent but are there North Korean spies in South Korea? Yes. That is also true.
Enok Oh it's all Donald Trumps idea, and his supporters are supporting him with immigration and deportation
10% is a HUGE figure, dude. One out of ten North Koreans are spies? WHAT? These South Koreans are WAY too suspicious of North Koreans defectors. Give the defectors a break.
Hopefully, these interviewees don't represent popular opinion.
You xenophobes are a joke. Don't look down on the rest of the world (or "foreigners" as you say).
water fall They're just retarded Killary supporters.
Nobody is denying that North Korea has sent tens of thousands of spies and assassins into South Korea, many of whom have wreaked havoc. But at the same time, if Canada was taken over by a bunch of murderous communists, those of us in America would never turn those who sought safety in our arms. They are brothers and sisters to us. West Germans never turned East German escapees away either. Nor would any of us stigmatize or exclude them from social life.
Justin M it's not xenophobia when you discriminate against or exclude your own people, simply for the crime of being born under a cruel dictator. It's just mean with a bit of crazy and stupid.
One of my closest friends is South Korean, raised since middle school in the US. I was so surprised at her hostility towards North Koreans, like distrust of defectors and fierce opposition to reunification. She described them like an alien species entirely different, culturally at least, from South Koreans. I never understood it. Is this being taught in schools or is it because of NK provocations at the border/sea of japan or do parents pass on this prejudice to their kids?
Actually, South Korean Intelligence agency has caught some North Korean spies among those defectors. It's always good to be cautious for national security.
I have a friend who is North Korean defector, and she said that even though she cares for other defectors, she can't trust them all, just in case they are spies sent by the government to bring her back.
She has also said that life is hard for her in South Korea, and she is trying to get into the US because of how harsh the people there treat her.
That is interesting. I wonder if she will ever be satisfied with any place she goes.
Because of her action, now most South Koreans would probably have even more bad perception towards North Korean defectors.
Btw, to Asian Boss. It would be great if you ask North Korean defectors of their opinions. Great job for this video!
you can see the bruises covered in heavy make up
May God bless her and praying she stays safe with his family. Thank you Asian Boss Mr Steve for this vid 👌
Hello, I'm south korean and seeing these comments makes me sad:( I know that there are some south koreans xenophobic but there are a lot of people who want to help NK defectors. South korean government give them money, apartment, and opportunity to go to universities for free with our taxes. We educate them how to use credit cards, get a license, use transportation, use computers,and etc before they come to our community(they say these education helped them a lot). We have volunteers to help them, one person for a family. And I'm one of those volunteers who are trying to reduce the gap between SK and NK people. South korea is very conservative country but we are gradually changing and our perception on NK people are also changing. Actually we are getting donations more and more, year after year, and there are clubs in some universities where SK students and NK students can help and understand each other:) So please don't just say they should go to US because we are trying to do our best:(
Nobody denies the generous benefits that the South Korean taxpayers give to North Korean refugees. But what happens to a child when you give it wonderful organic food, the perfect rigorous education, lots of toys, and the best healthcare, yet it's mother, father, and everyone else never give it a single hug or any sign of love or affection or even human touch from the day of its birth? Will it be healthy? Will it even learn to walk if it has no mother to walk to? The government and NGOs give everything materially. But South Korea is so competitive, rigorous, cutthroat, and expensive even for established South Koreans. And for those who grew up in the hermit kingdom, it's especially painful and nearly impossible to cope. When defectors complain about South Korea, they don't complain that they don't have a Mercedes and a flashy condo in Gangnam district. It's that South Korean life and society are too competetive, fast, cold, and lonely. That's why defectors have 2.5x South Korea's already astronomical suicide rate. Rather than just money and benefits from the government, which is important, South Korean people should make an effort to bond with and befriend North Koreans on a personal level. Even those who are a bit shy or socially awkward should be engaged and embraced by ordinary people. If 60,000 South Koreans take one defector as a friend, every defector will have two friends and will not feel lonely.
Good job
So basically what I've learned is that South Korea is just like other countries dealing with foreigners/refugees. The fact that they used to be one country doesn't seem to have much bearing on the issue. There are those who see the humanity aspect and empathize with the struggle defectors face, while others focus on the security and safety aspect (spies). There are so many parallels between the viewpoints of the South Koreans in this video and the perspectives of US citizens about Syrian refugees, you could almost swap the dialogue! Replace spy with terrorist and there you go. Now before anyone starts shouting at me about how different these two issues are, I want to say yes, of course they aren't exactly the same. I'm just stepping back and looking at the broad picture. Basically people are people and will always be scared of what is different.
Would be really interesting to hear the South Korean opinions on conflicts in the middle east if you could manage that?
I'm waiting for the interview of what people in North Korea right now think of everyone else.
This goes to show how much prejudice there still is against North Koreans. I'm disappointed at the attitudes of the majority of the people interviewed.
eugenemetayhas Easy thing to say as a foreigner who sees North koreans only as refugees. To South Koreans, they are enemy. You know, no peace treaty was signed to end the Korean war. The war is still ongoing and South Koreans have no other choice but to defend themselves; sad, but that's the reality.
like you really take care about them. funny people acting like they don't have any prejudice.
Jenn Jenn why are North Koreans enemy to South Koreans? (Just trying to get the big picture here) What's the reason for their war?
The younger generator of South Koreans will care less and less about their Northern counterpart. While the younger generation of North Koreans are starting to further crave information from the outside world.
+Blarg It goes back some decades. The history website has some good info on it: www.history.com/topics/korean-war
Clearly she was taken against her will. Poor lady I hope she was able to escape again.
She was clearly being forced to say those things in the video? How was that not obvious. NK didn't want her presence on tv to be seen by any NK civilians
If you look at that defectors recent vid in NK she looks scared and her hair has been cut off. It's common practice to some cultures to cut the hair of "traitors" or as form of punishment. She was abducted and threatened.
she got tired of kpop.
That woman looked swollen, covered in makeup (which is an extreme LUXURY in NK), and was "crying" without shedding any tears. Girl was not a spy. It's actually commonly said from people that were captured and defected again that they were forced to give false testimonies to the North Korean people.
Good Job Steve .. this is scary topic ..I was shocked to see that ...
Your social issues videos are like really moving and really knowledgeable to know about both countries ... Great work ..
Keep going ..
WTF? South Koreans think North Koreans as the same ethnic group, and they were educated like that. That's the fundamental reason why they support defectors specially. SK help them to escape and provide money for settle down here. Defectors receive special admissions and scholarships to make it easier for them to enter and graduate university. And also basic living expenses, housing subsidies, free medical protection, vocational training and wages... Since they are treated as 'complete' Koreans, they don't need to go through a special procedure for acquiring citizenship, and currently there's 2 members of the National Assembly who were defectors. If South Koreans hate or fear North Koreans, why would they support like that?
The point is, 'from NK' is the reason why they more special benefits than foreigners, but not a factor of fear. The reason they fear in this video is about national security. There were many NK spies in SK in reality(No joke, they sent really a lot of spies each other), even by disguising spies as defectors. And the surest way to determine that case of spies is, whether they return to NK later like her. But this way is not perfect, and also meaningless to block spies in advance. So they are afraid of situation about spies coming and going freely.
However, they will not monitor or deport defectors. This video is made 3 years ago, but the way to accept or managed defectors has not changed at all. Why would they do that? Once again, they are same Korean. Interviewees in this video think 5-10% of North Korean defectors are spies, but they also paid for defectors and made them members of the National Assembly. Because they think it is more valuable to save the same people than to be in danger from spies. You guys should focus on this.
Are you stupid?? North Koreans and South Koreans are the same ethnic group. Both are Korean, it's called North *KOREA* and South *KOREA* for a reason!
@@Dom_om_nom wtf do you want to say? I didn't say they are not. I said, 'same ethnic group' is only reason why they give them special benefits. The point is, 'from North Korea' is good thing to South Korean. If South Koreans really hate or fear North Koreans, they will shoot every defectors at DMZ. Because *We* *are* *still* *at* *war* can't you still understand?
Thank you Asian boss for these wonderful videos.
As South Korean, I'm truly disappointed in the view of non knoreans. WE ARE IN THE STATE OF WAR FOR 60 YEARS NOW, and have to worry about every single military provocation. How many times have you seen NK on the news? How many times have you actually worried about them? How many times have you listened to your family member evacuating from the 'liberation army'?, as these 'racism' comments I am reading is written by someone who have never been to such a situation. Before making any judgement, please check the truth OF both side
Wow it is not appropriate to call commentors 'racism' so easily. From what I saw they just want to discuss this topic and tbh many of the comments do make sense. Questioning others doesn't make your statement strong.
state of war bruh.... you have the full support of every top tier nation, North fighting you would be like a death sentence for them, what I see is a weak army only fuelled by the black market, and a figurehead who is joke in the international community aka Rocket Man lmfao. I don't want to pass judgement on south korean but so far from what I seen on a society that values looks above all else Im not surprised by these reactions.
I see your point.. I guess from the outside we only see those North Korean people who scaped as people who suffered a lot and I guess we feel bad for them. And we didn't think of all the political issues going on.
I'm sorry if someone was rude, I agree with your point :)
They are more stupid, and they are more racist. It's really funny. LOL
@@오렌지-k6d Yeah but South Korea is allied with the U.S. and there are about 24,000 U.S. military personnell stationed there. Do you think the U.S. government will allow North Korea to even launch a nuclear weapon into South Korea? With that dude Trump at the helm, he's crazy enough to strike at them like that and with U.S. missiles pointed at them monitored by satellites all he has to do is give the command to strike. South Korea is safer than you think. North Korea will suffer more if that happens.
I'm Korean and I lived in the country for the majority of my life. People don't give a shit about North Koreans and if they do, there's definitely prejudice and very little fear. People cower more when they meet foreigners XD. Values like compassion for everyone is definitely not emphasized enough and I hope that our society can change to try to understand each people who are different more.
South Koreans are very well informed, I'm impressed with the young people interviewed.
Lisa Mieth no.if they are very well informed. They should know that girl was forced to do that video ,they know only kim Jong un and not the situation of north korean defectors and north korea people
Woah amazing video!!
South Koreans seem so cold towards their brothers!!! I think you’re channel is very good.
Awesome video, very informative
I think she was manipulated to return by threat to her family & forced by the N Korean regime to make that video. We have seen similar techniques used by the regime before
In India, we like Koreans alot no matter whether they are from North or South or even Yanbian Koreans. Common Korean people have suffered alot throughout the last 2000 years of their history and they all certainly deserve a stable life. We understand the pain of the country division the most as it happened to us as well.
We see Korea as One and wish to see it unified as early as possible. However, I really feel sad when some Southerners taunt Northerners in their country as "𝗗𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿" 탈북자 & 새터민 and look down upon them as less deserving citizens. Today's generation of South Korea must read the polical history of what happened in their country from 1963 to 1980. They were on the verge of completely becoming a country under 𝑌𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 same as the 𝐾𝑖𝑚 𝑒𝑟𝑎 in the North.
Even we have 100s of people defecting to India every year from 𝑃𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛 & 𝐴𝑓𝑔ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛 trying to escape - 𝐸𝑥𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝐸𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 & 𝐸𝑥𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛. Every single person is - 𝑊𝑒𝑙𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑑, 𝐶𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑑 & 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑑 in India. Never even once, does even a single Indian call these defectors as - 𝑃𝑎𝑎𝑘𝑖.
I hope the woman is ok back in North Korea God bless her and her family love from the u k 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 xxxxxxxxxxxx
Asian Boss, you're a frikkin Asian Boss! keep it coming!
can you interview Nk defectors of this topic
Great video! love your content keep it up!
so funny to read comments who live so far away from NK and never have serious danger from Nk, and also don't know NK invaded SK first and still launches missile at night, but keep blaming South Korea. LOL.
I'm not from Korea but I do know that South Korea gets threats from the North. and yes, I know NK invaded the South. After WW2, Soviet Union and the US divided Korea in half. Kim Il-Sung wanted the whole Korea to be like the North. So US stepped in to help the South fight the North Koreans. After the fighting stops, US draw the borderline 38th Parallel separating the two. The DMZ, one of the most heavily guarded borders in the world. and Korea is still at war. Some people don't know some people do know. correct me if i'm wrong.
Nobody is blaming South Korea. We're just asking that you not allow your anger, fear, and indignation over the crimes of Fat Kim and his forefathers to cause you to feel anger and prejudice towards North Korean defectors. These are innocent, starving people who are victims of the most heinous NK regime crimes. It's terrible that you in Seoul, one of the greatest thriving metropolises in the world, still live under the daily threat of artillery fire and nuclear attacks. But these people have been forced to watch their own families executed, are forbidden to cry for them, are reduced to considering themselves lucky to find a rat to eat, and are threatened with labor camp sentences for *not* crying over the death of the bastard who did this to them. Please don't turn your anger towards them when they seek safety and freedom in your arms.
Yes. But do you also know that North Korea and South Korea had a war? Yes we are same people, but at the same time, us people are the ones who pointed guns at each other and killed each others' people. You say North Korean people but those same North Korean people used to be in North Korean armies. It's very complicated. We need to take care of them, but we are also still at a war with them. It is very reasonable that some people don't feel as comfortable with them. At least the S.Korean government is supporting those refugees a lot.
And the war is continuing. Several Korean army soldiers have died in recent years from North Korean shootings. They are always on the news. These foreigners say Koreans are being too naive about all these North Korean missiles but of course we are the ones who fear the most. We even have an army. And people actually die from the North Koreans! And look at all these FOREIGNERS who say there are no spies.
It's disgusting. ew.
Also, I have been to North Korea about 10 years ago. They do speak very different language. They speak with different accents, different expressions, different words, etc. I actually couldn't understand anything they said. We are same Koreans, but we are very different. There is a huge gap we need to overcome in order to be together. It's not something South Koreans are at fault for saying we are too different. We actually cannot really communicate.
Most won't or can't understand till you've stood at that DMZ pulling guard and wondering if today is the day that the frog decides to hop. I was there and if anything I think S.Korea isn't being as hard as it should be on the North.
I mean I feel bad for the people up north but at the same times how many times will they let their government starve them and brutalize them for simple mistakes or for speaking their minds I mean even a dog will bite you if you mistreat it enough.
As a Korean, i'm really ashamed of these defensive S.Korean comments. The top comments here are talking about the stupid logic and ignorance of some interviewee, who said she would be a spy, and the anger/the discrimination towards N.Korean defectors of S.Korean. Korean history and the fact that Korean war doesn't terminate jet can not be a basis for the discrimination towards N.korea defectors. Get the context and the point.
Love your videos! Btw, I think it would be cool if you guys invest a microphone flag that has the Asian Boss logo on it. 🤓
I totally understand that you lot are confused by the attitude that south Koreans are having on North Korean defectors. Hate the country but not the people, right? I do agree that the defectors have to get a fair chance, and they should not be discriminated. However the Korean society is not stable enough to extend such generosities even to their "enemies". Remember, although the country seems wealthy and developed, Korea is a war zone. Korean war has never ended and the majority of Koreans conceive North Korea as the biggest enemy. Strong anti-North Korean sentiment is almost our identity now. And many people can't, and don't want to separate the North Korean "State" and the North Korean "people". Hope that make some sense.
Jenn Jenn Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. South Korea is not a war zone. Don't be dramatic. They are technically still at war, but don't call beautiful, prosperous South Korea a war zone.
South Korean society, like other xenophobic, "homogeneous" societies, need to change.
I'm so amazed to see somebody says S.Koreans are IGNORANT to N.Korea, when we're living in the only country which actually face it. Do you even know how many S.Korean people have lost their body parts due to N.Korean attack in last 10 years?
On the subject of discrimination, South Korea Government should do more public education to inform the South Korean citizen of the issue.
Great video..Asian Boss..make a video about India and China border tensions
naga sri what boarder tension?
india and china currently having issues with borders..doklam is a region at which these issues are occuring..
Bringing enlightenment to the masses!
Take the shoes of Korean defector before u judges.
I imagine it would be nice for there to be a set town or city where NK defectors can be placed so that they are among other NK defectors to have a community of their own in South Korea while they still live among the South Koreans. Unfortunately, I think that would totally freak out any SK citizens living in or around said towns and would probably be a big mess. However, the most comforting thing in a new environment is something familiar. That's why you see ex pats of the same national origin in various countries trying to have relations with each other. Like americans in china will try to maintain relations with other americans in china bc its familiar and that familiarity is a genuine basis for some sort of friendship.
What would the north Koreans be spying on?
How to make awesome KPOP music. You know, life is bland in the north.
LOL
Communications technology. Samsung has taken the world by storm. They don't have smartphones in North Korea (yet). If they do now, it's because someone has been observing the outside world...who else but spies? Remember, technology is always changing, which also improves the military. They are watching for advancements and breakthroughs so they can be one step ahead of their enemies.
I just copied and past my comment, anyways here you go lol
there are "some" spies disguised as defectors(there are nearly more than 100,000 North Korean defectors worldwide, don't say I'm a bigot unless you know all of them in depth), even Tae-young Ho(North Korean elite defector worked in British embassy) said there can be spies among defectors cuz it's the most safe and guaranteed way of doing it.
So, Why? cuz the defectors can have direct contact with the South Korean intelligence agency(CIA of Korea) and other political organizations.
North Korean defectors claimed that they received phone calls from North Korean authorities encouraging them to work as spies(how do they know their contact information?? - there's a spy)(Newsis, Jul 21, 2017,)
The spy activities not only limited to political ones, but some pointless(in our perspective, quite random) activities: such as, watching other defectors who are active in South Korean society; North Korean propagandas; watching and reporting random things like how TV station works, railroads work, mobile phones work(?!)' or, last but not least, just provoking social confusion in South Korea.
So yeah, considering these facts, I think there's a high chance of this woman being a spy, to cause a social confusion and raise the public opinion to not to take North Korean defectors in South Korea, because NK has been asking SK to send them back.
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Kitty LissieGirl but they're still so behind. And north koreans arent even allowed fancy phones or access to internet. Their lives are bland af.
south koreans are really open minded and logical to consider all of these different points. I always thought it was simpler than that for some reason
I how the guy in the dark blue shirt at the end thinks. More people should try to put themselves in others shoes and not judge based on where people come from
I really appreciated this piece. I felt the last gentlemen who spoke did an excellent job of showing the understanding and empathy the South Koreans feel for those who come from the North.
South Koreans face a direct threat of North Korea every day.In the past 60 years, there have been many cases of North Korea spies.And these abductees make defectors living in South Korean more difficult to adapt.
This video is not talking about North Korean defectors, it talks about abductees and as, South Korean I hope that you guys understand that North Korea's threat to us is real. Sorry for my bad English.
Thank you for the video. Vocalizing means a lot but yet I'm not sure this could mean a thing to make changes within Korea.. anyhow I am so into your videos and passion
Wow it was only the guy at the end b4 Steve summed up that seemed to want to give north Koreans a chance. i thought the majority of south Koreans would be sympathetic, but that was not my takeaway.
way2jaded1 I've heard that it's mostly the older generations that have ties to family in North Korea that want reunification. The younger generation really don't think about them or care for the most part and it makes sense, I'd care about if my brother was in trouble but I wouldn't give a second of thought to the family of my grandfather's brother that was in trouble.
To be honest, it feels good that the south koreans are able to understand thr hardships the north koreans been through and also empathise with them.
I can give the most objective, balanced information on this matter. Yes, there are "some" spies disguised as defectors(there are nearly more than 100,000 North Korean defectors worldwide, don't say I'm a bigot unless you know all of them in depth), even Tae-young Ho(North Korean elite defector worked in British embassy) said there can be spies among defectors cuz it's the most safe and guaranteed way of doing it.
So, Why? cuz the defectors can have direct contact with the South Korean intelligence agency(CIA of Korea) and other political organizations.
North Korean defectors claimed that they received phone calls from North Korean authorities encouraging them to work as spies(how do they know their contact information?? - there's a spy)(Newsis, Jul 21, 2017,)
The spy activities not only limited to political ones, but some pointless(in our perspective, quite random) activities: such as, watching other defectors who are active in South Korean society; North Korean propagandas; watching and reporting random things like how TV station works, railroads work, mobile phones work(?!)' or, last but not least, just provoking social confusion in South Korea.
So yeah, considering these facts, I think there's a high chance of this woman being a spy, to cause a social confusion and raise the public opinion to not to take North Korean defectors in South Korea, because NK has been asking SK to send them back.
It's stupid Koreans like you who give all Koreans a bad name. Your moronic comment displayed how stupid you really are. Who anointed you an expert on North Korean spies? Have you gone around to every corner of South Korea and thoroughly vetted every single 51 million people to know who is or isn't a spy.? Where did you come up what that fanciful number of 100,000? Of course, you plucked it from your ossified noggin. I think you're the spy in the guise of some dumb want-to-be expert. You know nothing except the back of your ass. Instead of having empathy for their plight and difficult lives of fellow Koreans, you are show derision and loathing, which clearly reflects your self loathing. You're a self indulgent hater of north Koreans for no other reason than to hate them because you have a crappy, inconsequential existence. Have a nice day--idiot!
The camera quality is really good in this video!
I only agree with the last guy in blue. The other people that are interviewed just proved why NK defectors face such a huge challenge in integrating into SK society. Like what the last guy said, learn to understand how tough it is for them to cross the river and the jungle, travelling across China, Laos, Thailand to seek asylum - put ourselves in their shoes. I also honestly do not understand why the SKeans are overly worried about being spied and all that. It just shows that they are ignorant on the issues that NKeans are facing.
North koreans are given the best possible tools to integrate into society. They are given mandatory 6 month classes on south korean society, given free housing and allowance, a free pass to any university of their choice, and the list goes on. It is not our fault when they decide they cannot handle responsibilities in a capitalistic system and decide to go back.
Please don't call us ignorant when you yourself are ignorant on why South koreans are worried about spies.
Other interviewees showed sympathy to North Koreans as well...
If the North Korean woman was a spy, what whould she spy on amongst everyday citizens, where do the work or how they live their lifes? Whouldn't she be put by her government in a state officer position? And beyond that, one of the first interviewer said she was kidnapped in China, as a result the North Korean government found an opportunity to do propaganda of the operator type.
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the solo guy in the green can choke. he needs a big reality check and an influx of compassion and empathy im shaking my damn head
Can someone explain what defector means? I don't understand it😖
people who escaped north korea
ExoPanda every north corean who has abandoned their country is a defector.
ExoPanda google it
There is a debate going on how to name people who ran out of N.K. They could be called either "escapees" or "defectors" where as only few could get "refugee" status.
mean you run away from one country to another coz there afraid
They seem very reasonable and truthfully. I like that.
Do foreigners here even know the history of NK spies in SK? There were heaps of them in the past until recent years. And it's NOT possible that she could go back to NK. Please learn the history before judging us, South Korean.
Gourmet Journey but this does not mean that some South Koreans can mistreat North Koreans.These are innocent, starving people who are victims of the most heinous NK regime crimes. Mostly of north koreans have been forced to watch their own families executed, are forbidden to cry for them, are reduced to considering themselves lucky to find a rat to eat, and are threatened with labor camp sentences for not crying over the death of the bastard who did this to them.
This does not mean that everything you see on the internet is true which means her tear is FAKE! Just like you, foreigners judge South Korean here without knowing the truth. Another point is that if she was "captured/seized" by North Korean "in South Korea," how did they come to South Korea? Aren't they considered SPIES? The focal point is that how she moved back and forth NK? And she couldn't be on TV if she was captured. Do you really think NK allows her to be on TV if they really captured her? I don't think so.
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A video on the influence of the S-Korean Spy Service on the S-Korean democracy, please.
Please make a video about the recent tensions with the U.S and North Korea
North Korean defectors, please come to the States. We will take care of you!!
Jeffrey Ena there are so many north korean defectors in states . U can meet them^_^
No, South Korea is right below them. Very close, so only convenient for them to defect to South Korea where its closest and they speak same language.
Master Scumbag That's a fair point^
Kim Jong-Un's aunt and uncle live in New York. They left after his mother died because they were afraid of losing their power and position and being executed. They are probably the only people that can afford the trip.
Neither the US nor south Korea are close when trying to escape North Korea.
That was really interesting, thanks.