Sheffield City Centre Waingate/Haymarket Old Town hall will it survive demolition fightback or else.
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- At the start of the video I show you the Market tavern that has been axed. The Old town hall was being converted into an hotel but that has stopped. Its a Grade 2 listed structure, but that hasn't stopped Sheffield council allowing demolition in the past. i.e. Edwardian wing of Jessops hospital.
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There are also many other youtube videos showing you what remains on the inside.
I understand the latest owner of the building is property developer Gunes Ata, who also goes by the name Gary Ata.
Excellent video Tim; thank you for the mention. I remember drinking from that water fountain as a child! It would be terrible if this building gets bulldozed. However, leaving it to fall into rack and ruin for twenty nine years is not showing a great desire to preserve it and our historical past. It would have been good as a museum in parts, like with Lincoln castle prison that has been preserved. This needed to have been done as soon as the Crown Court closed in I995, in my opinion, however. Due to proximity with the river, the old buildings and landmarks could have been turned into a historic Quarter incorporating the old hostelries like the Market Tavern, formerly Old No.12; the Bull & Mouth and Lady's Bridge pub. The markets should have been preserved in that area where they have always been. Old buildings should not be sacrificed for new because that wipes out the Past and the character is gone.
Its all by design isn't it. Let things fall to pieces rather than maintain until reconditioned. I think a Museum and visitor centre, show casing both our industrial and medieval past. The market was moved to the bottom of the Moor to disorient the Sheffield folk. I still need to video the Tudor building, but there maybe too much scaffolding in front of it.
@@timawells it looks that way its certainly disoriented anyone old enough to remember....I recall seeing the Judge arriving in red robes and wig in his Bentley. Other museums of this type have mannequins in costume showing a mock-up of the Court and other scenes from the Past.
To leave a building thirty years is not by mistake.
I saw this old chap sat waiting for a bus outside the old Sheaf market, I bet he wondered what had gone off.@@misscoutts6193
@@timawells was he a ghost🤔
Can you speak to ghosts?@@misscoutts6193
Great video. That building on Castle Green, is the old police station.
Thanks Simon. It dead mention the Police and court building, but I thought the police station was in the Old Town Hall. Another puzzle solved thanks.
I can't help but to think that the council deliberately allow these old buildings to become run down into ruin. It gives them an excuse to get them demolished.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of these buildings were perfectly fine and just needed refurbishment.
I hate seeing these beautiful buildings in this state, and I would hate even more seeing them turn into rubble.
I am told the council could compulsory purchase, but choose not to.
We must really fight to save this building!!!
Odd isn't it that the old pub was beyond economic repair.There may well be a plan to clear huge swathes of Sheffield and the South Yorkshire Climate Alliance probably would prefer more environmentally friendly buildings.We will never know the influence of unelected zealots in the transformation of our city which has lost many things which are no real loss but some which cannot be replaced.My favourite hobby horse is saying that the destruction of the environment,both natural and built, rarely comes about in a cataclysmic event but is chipped away at and the increments add up to the same thing.An exception was the demolition of most of lower Walkley by the Sheffield Council where the area was demolished and Kelvin, Hyde Park etc built creating whole areas which became uninhabitable.Small scale " developments" like the new concrete stables on Rivelin Road,and the horrific Wisewood Hydro on the River Loxley are examples of the gradual degradation of the semi- natural environment which many will find unacceptable.The loss of the Little Mesters was a prime example of the loss of our heritage many years ago,as was the demolition of a many Georgian properties where the University of Sheffield built the Arts Tower,the filling in of the Dam opposite Western Park Hospital,and so it goes on.
Can't fault what you say Andrew. Firbeck Hall close to where I was is being restored, it looks fantastic and was in a far worse mess than this. I called the councils bluff over the Net Zero building, they can't tell me how much energy went into the new building, versus how much it will save each years, they claim it doesn't mean this. We should have really played on our little Mester heritage, Kelham island has been ruined as it has been gentrified.
I don't think any old building is safe in Sheffield even listed ones
Not with the councils track record.
Possibly used for judges and other staff to live/stay at. Can't think of anything else.
Concerning the suspicious red brick to rear of the old town hall. Which other buildings have similar stones in Sheffield? City Hall, New Town Hall, the building adjacent in the alleyway amongst others? Maybe the stone bricks were used as repairs for those other buildings over the years. It wouldn't surprise me if they were sold to other Citys to repair their buildings... SCC will do anything for money.
I'd be curious to know when the red bricks were put there. They look the same type and age as the red bricks that are on the side where the shops once were. Which makes things even more curious. What's the connection?
Its been done where we can't see it. I would love to know what has gone on.
I've seen plenty of urbex videos on this and it's completely wrecked and beyond economical repair
Dare I say it , probably needs knocking down
Shame its been left to rot because that would make an excellent museum
Firbeck Hall was probably worse now fully renovated and turned into apartments
Anyone know what the money was which was wasted on the egg box built as the new town hall?
£9 million with a lifespan of 500 years, What went wrong there Andrew?
was that the old bull & mouth ?
Bottom of Waingate, Where it intersects with Castle St.
Now called the Petal!
They could have at least kept the old name to link with the Past!
They want us to forget. @@misscoutts6193
Just hope it dosen't become a certain place of worship Tim
Should be a museum Jon.
@@timawells That would be great Tim unfortunately don't see it ,everybody wants to earn a quick buck nowdays just hope it avoids the Sheffield city centre building cull. Shame about the market tavern there were a few characters that frequented that pub ! again another great video ta very much 👍
Yes all about money and not society Jon.@@deedahinkent
Hi Tim
Why has such a lovely building got so much graffiti on it ? Shame on Sheffield City Council, get it cleaned up and not use it in future years as an excuse for it being demolished … ooh it’s such an eyesore…… let’s knock it down attitude 😢
Graffiti is shocking throughout Sheffield Richard. Sheffield council have a track record of letting beautiful buildings get trashed.
@@timawells but they should be made to clear it up especially on a listed building ? Shocking 😳
I think they encourage it.@@everydaysabonus
@@timawells sad isn’t it