The MOST SHOCKING Stainless Steel Milling Ever!!! *YOU MUST SEE THIS*
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- This is literally the most insane stainless steel cnc machining video probably ever in existence. Adrenaline pumping crazy cnc milling. BOOM...
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Did you see Barry at the End of the Video? 😳😳😳🤯
@@importanttingwei7747 the DeLorean was 316 ss ..
@@importanttingwei7747 I think it’s a version of 301 which is the same as Starship… Also, great for avoiding hail damage in Texas😂😂😂
@@TITANSofCNC hello I am from india , and 2nd year btech student in NIT warangal ,I want to learn about CNC programming,3d scanning , solid work , you provides some kind of course for that? And how to get access of that
Can you ship end mills to Asuncion Paraguay?
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Awesome! This guy gets it!
I love the sound of these machines when you get the feed & speeds just right! Music to my ears!
That truly is an impressive end mill. Lots of factors made that buried hogging cut possible, but being a horizontal mill is huge in getting those chips out of there. Horse power, rigidity, and orientation all add up to an awesome process.
I wonder how long that tool would last in that application, if it was flooded with high pressure coolant, and not running dry for the benefit of the camera .
Another excellent video showing what is possible with a great setup and killer speeds and feeds.
You can only get a comment like yours if you know what you're doing.
Cheaper VMCs with single contact 30 or 40 tapers need not apply, this is a true test of the actual end mill itself and not the normal limitations that come with workholding or toolholding.
I tried some of the Titan videos with extreme ipm & sfm/low stepover a la trochoidal milling and SFM seemed to burn up my end mills way faster than stepover in 304 and 316. My cheapo/closeout 4fl TICN hanitas would last 3-4x longer running at ~400sfm like this video than 500+ in some of the others. One of the flutes would chip the corner eventually and then they'd die within a part or two. The speeds and feeds in this video (wish I could do the stepover) were much closer to where I ended up at.
My brother told me about this channel. You answered my question; coolant off for the camera. I run a lot of mag... so coolant ON! :)
Run the low radial tool without coolant and you will get a lot more tool life. Stainless is tough so more heat will be put into the tool. The more you cool it down the less wear resistant it will be. AlTin coatings produce aluminum oxide at high temps protecting the tool. Coolant will thermally shock and prevent extra wear resistance. These tools are beasts.
I tend to run SS dry now. I used to flood or use high pressure but after seeing how well 316 handles dry machining i just use an air blast now. 5 Flute EM, 600sfm, 8% radial, and full DOC 130ipm all day. Dry cutting keeps the AlTiN coating activated, coupled with a chip breaker really helps with BUE. coolant would only thermal cycle the carbide.
Drilling however is another story. Coolant thru drills are the best thing to happen to CNC tooling
You've just drained the balls of many engineers 😂
Yeah this is definitely impressive. My shop just started using the harvi 1s this year, I’ve known about them since you guys have been talking about them. We do .187 rad and 30 inches a minute in stainless with the 3/4. I had no idea it could do this as well. I’ve been hoping you were going to make this video some day! I’ve got some program editing to do!
The tools are crazy, it's really unbelievable what they can do, and how long they last!
Impressive as hell, but we all know that ramp did not end well. And It is 100% becuase of not running coolant, it's an impressive cut no doubt.
Man, it actually made it thru 3 of this exact part! And I should add that the tool was used already, when I put it in the spindle!
Is that why you were doing your Money Dance at the end of the video😂😂😂
Love Ya Barry😁
I assume its only a roughing stage for that part? Without coolant I assume metal expansion wouldnt allow great precision.
@@barrysetzer That's pretty insane. Should have shown it in the video though, cause the way it cuts the clip right when it starts to glow will make us assume it didn't end well.
@@MisFakapek no coolant is just for video. Nobody in their right mind would willingly cut stainless without coolant unless using ceramics.
These videos are my daily MOTIVATION TO GET SOME BIG MACHINERY TO HOG OUT THAT TYPE OF MATERIAL like that!
this is next level stuff right here
Todd from the Midwest here, the tool salesmen will tell you, you have two different opinion’s on this kind of tooling. 1) WOW that’s amazing guy. 2) OH NO there goes our over time guy. I’m the WOW guy for sure. That’s impressive. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah man! I was standing there with my finger on the STOP button, and when the tool made it all the way through with no issue I was in WOW mode for sure!
Amazing Content As Always Baz !!
BOOM!
762 MMPM feed with 3/4 tool, holy shit. This tool is a beast. Good investition. :)
INCREDIBLE!
The chip drop made the video, Amazing cuts, but the chip drop was hilarious. He is the new CHIP BAE!
Bwahaha
Seen it all now , unbelievable.
Wow power is amazing!
Awesome that's some mad chips with no coolant great work as always guy's Harvey 1 is number one
great video, I like the plethora of information about speeds and feeds . very helpful.
Wow! Just bought a 1/2” end mill from your store…..going to give this a try!
You wont regret it!
It's treating stainless like its aluminum 🤯🤯 insane
Impressive!
And no coolant! I've been in aircraft machine shop for over 44 years and gotta say that is impressive!
Nice.
Used to do some deep milling like this back in early 00's, but without coolant that stainless would have work hardened and end mill would snap.
That is impressive
2:42 - just before tool breaks :D you can see it starts to glow :D
No Tools we’re Harmed during the filming of this video😂😂😁
Now Glow… maybe a little😜
Nice!!!! 🛠🇺🇸
Man I wish I could work for you guys. I do large bed lathe work but I can't leave the state I am in do to family obligations. The machine I run is a Hankook Proturn 9NA that is 8,000 mm long between chuck and center. And we fill up the length of the machine regularly running 2 to 4 steady rest.
Crazzy as usual 🔥🔥🙌🙌
If the chips ain't flying, you ain't trying.
I love to see chips fly.
“OK” > Very Cool Video. >> Only One Question. Why Are Almost All Your Videos on Milling. Might Be Interesting to See Some Lathe Videos Too.??
Try that in the haas umc😁😁😁
😳
😂 😂 😂
I really love those videos that show what this yools are capable of... Even if most people say it's not the way to run tools in production, I don't care.
However I still miss one small, simple thing. It would be awesome to see small screen with spindle load and it's power, so we could know how much power you really need to spin those tools for reference. I hope you could add that 🙄
I like it!
I have a huge 1000 pc order of 316SS ! I'm trying these Monday morning!!
Let us know what you thinkl!
I cut 316 stainless almost everyday, very impressed with that cutting. Those chips, Dang! Barry's face was money !
Bwahaha with chips like that, there's not many other ways to look at them!
That's crazy
So I live in a town just north of your new shop, just wondering if yall do tours of yall's new facility? Thanks
I’m impress.
3:31-3:38 Yes
I'm off to try this on my Shapeoko3, wish me luck!
Do you decrease the feed rate 50% as the tool comes out of the cut as well?
Time 04:40 / 4:09 that tool tip are burning ? right . it's that tool break? thanks.
Ima try this with my g0704.
all i run is 316ss, seeing this is amazing. ill be buying this endmill soon
You won't regret it! Wait until you see how these things perform! After cutting 3 of the parts from this video, the endmill still looks brand new. and when the cutting edge starts to wear, you wont believe how much longer the tool will go without breaking.
Wow!!!!
Wow.
I wonder how much scrap metal yall keep in inventory. 🤔 I wonder how much inventory space there is. Love the videos!
if i was gonna use a 1/2 instead of 3/4 would you still recommend the same SFM and IPT for it?
316L is my favourite SS I Love welding SS it’s a art form stick weld MMAW mig weld GMAW and Tig welding GTAW 🇦🇺👨🏭 BOOM.
that guy is cool and look he know what he is doing .. i like that big guy!
Hahahaha thank you!
Damn good stuff
That’s highly impressive. How many hours will a one tool run before it’s dull
It depends on what youre doing, but i have never worked with a tool this incredible. Even after the cutting edge is completely gone, it keeps cutting without breaking. Its literally like nothing i have ever seen.
-how much rigidity do you need?
-yes.
LOL
Yup pretty impressive in 316. I've machined a lot of it and I'd much rather be cutting 304. Tool life was about 1/2 or worse in 316.
You need the rigidity and HP because you got to make it eat, almost . 004 PT making big chips to take that heat away.
Get some air blowing to clear the chips is just fine.
If the machine's got enough HP let her rip. The big dog's gotta eat.
I want to see some purple chips 😄
Impressive, can you show it on a CAT 40 machine...
😂
We did on a HSK63 which is similar… 😳😳😳
Nice money shot Barry!
Unbelievable
super high power machine, BOOM
The old 1980's CNC machinery I use to run would have stalled out and overloaded at those feeds on stainless. 🙄
@@opendstudio7141 If I tried this on my machine the spindle would just snap in half and fly out of the window...
Wish this tool was available world wide because this is insane
It is available in most countries and in metric versions as well.... What country are you in and I might be able to point you in the right direction
@@icecubetheman1974 Poland and I'm pretty sure we don't have them here
Kennametal poland
@@manti342 everytime i put the phone number or email it gets deleted
@@icecubetheman1974 I will try to find it myself then
What holder is that?
Kennametal Hydroforce, CAT50 dual contact, 1.25” bore with a thru coolant 3/4” collet
Now do it on the Tormach! ;)
Yeah, no lol
What is axial?
You better be re-using those shavings... good for cast steel
Absolutely amazing. I wonder how it would last on my 40 taper HAAS though. I have a feeling it might snap the pull stud. Dang! I shoulda ordered 50 taper machines.
A white flag would pop out of the control if you tried to do this.
Damn that is impressive!! 316 ain't the easiest material!
Gummy.
Love it! So where do you guys see the transition point being material wise between using the H1 TE and the KOR series in steels, stainless, hardened steels, and exotics? About to start ordering some tools from you guys but have a bit of a question mark there.
H1TE is great for slotting and ramping, the KORs are great for side milling. The KOR series has the DA for Aluminum, DS for steels, and the KOR6 for exotics.
@@barrysetzer Thanks Barry for your suggestions! Looking forward to trying these out.
Climb milling only?
Yes Sir… and Full Slot… don’t want to be running over those Massive Chips…
98% of CNC Machining is Climb Milling.
Crazy. I would be impressed even if you said this was all a joke and just wrote "316" on the side of a block of aluminum.
I just wish it had chip breakers
Impressive. Do you ever suffer from tool pull out from there holder?
One of my favorite features about these holders is the Safe-Lock grooves in the tools and collets, which makes pulling a tool out of the holder physically impossible.
No coolant the whole time? 🙄 Or is there an air coolant on that Tool, how long does that Tool holds without coolant? Is it possible to run it continous in stainless without cooling?... Im working on a mashine with "mms- oil air cooling" only... Sorry for my english
The tool was cooled utilizing thru-spindle air blow, thru the collet. Stainless cuts well dry, but it always depends on your application. Sometimes you need coolant.
Ah okay, i think, thats a possibility, air threw spindle cooling, it think thats good idea. Is that a special holder, for that application... Air threw spindle...?
How many endmills were harmed in the making of this video? 😀
😂😂😂
Believe it or not, None in this particular video😜
@@TITANSofCNC how can I get these tools in pakistan.
Why is coolant not required with this application?
Since we are in a horizontal machine, gravity and thru spindle air blow do a very good job of removing chips. In a vertical mill, chip evacuation wouldnt be as easy, so coolant would likely be better
@BB I prefer horizontal machines. Gravity is very effective for chip removal!
@@barrysetzer That makes sense..Thanks, Barry!
I noticed at 2:40, you did your helical entry clockwise, is this just by happenstance, or do you have reasons not to go counter-clockwise in a climb cut?
That's actually a very interesting question, as I hadn't noticed that! I just looked at my toolpath (2D dynamic), and there is no way to change the direction of the helix, unless you change the dynamic milling in the bottom of the pocket to conventional cutting. Then, the helix flips to climb. I will have to ask Mastercam about that, thanks for the question!!!
@@barrysetzer some mastercam operations will let you pick whether you helically interpolate clockwise or counterclockwise but I'm trying to remember which ones LOL
So i spoke with some of the development team at Mastercam, and they tell me that they did extensive testing on this, and the toolpath reflects what actually works best in the real world. Direction of the helix in this case is a result of tool diameter and size of the helix.
How much AE?
I was doing this MANUALLY, & with HIGHER tolerances, 30 years ago. CNC’s, are just an excuse for lack of skilled hands, & eyes!
Well kudos to you! But CNC machining requires a very different skillset, including 3D modeling, CAM system proficiency, communication tools from programmer to machinist, machine control mastery, mastery of G and M code programming, to name a few. I grew up in manual machine shops, and that gave me a great FOUNDATION for becoming a CNC machinist, and now we teach millions of people exactly how to do things like you just saw in this video, and inspire others to rise to greatness.
With respect, Now repeat that 100 times against the robot, then we'll see who can do it faster and consistently. With that said, manual machining is an under appreciated skill nowadays. Making a single part manually can often be faster then CNC if you include programming and set up time. But the favor increases exponentially to the robot as part count increases.
When can we see some Super Duplex get cut? Stuff is the worst. I prefer hardened materials to that stuff
That’s a great idea… We have machined a ton of it and have never shown it… Nitronic 60 also.
すげ〜🤩🤩🤩🤔
If you still have that ramp cut demo piece laying around I need an ashtray that can't get knocked off the desk and get broken. seriously. 😎
LOL, we do!
Does it perform as well in 304? I do a lot of both.
Yes sir, it's a pretty amazing tool
Very fast
what happend after #2.41?
It cut the entire 20° ramp very well, with no issues. It sounded a little rough, which is possibly why the editors cut it. But the tool handled it like a champ, and after roughing 3 of these parts, still looks brand new.
Whats coating is on that mill?
AlTiN
@@barrysetzer nice
Visible spindle load meter disconnected? 🤣
,😧316 stainless cutting like butter.
I drilled holes all day, it was really boring
do you use some air for chips evacuation?? that machine is a monster
Yes, we had thru air running thru the collet in the Hydroforce holder.
@@barrysetzer isn't that not quite right enough for that cut?
I'm currently training on our big soraluce and we use extra air for shredding 247mm holes in 31crmo9 400mm deep
@@Sebastian-ed5kt Yes, it would have been nice to have some extra air, or coolant. But it worked pretty well, anyway. Being in a horizontal helped alot, too. Thank you gravity! Soraluce, eh? You at General Atomics in Tupelo?
@@barrysetzer ah okay nice!
Thanks for the answer 😊
No, I'm an apprentice at Trendelkamp in Germany
We build machines for the plastic industry and stuff like that.
@@Sebastian-ed5kt Awesome, man! We also had a Soraluce at General Atomics, big machine!!! Prost!
This video comes just too late, struggled our "moer" off on a stainless job not too long.
MRR.......
Is this NMH 6300 ??
Yes
NHM 6300
Looks like butter.
I was studying this stuff before I discovered military intelligence was more fun and switched to a different career.
I just want to see my handle. Also "you need to run a lot slower on stainless...way to ruin those tools and machine (20% load) just to finish a part in 20 minutes instead of 2 days"
Great , but machining like this puts harmonics into the material .. it will distort all over .. it’s ok for chugging out , but no good on a tight tolerance job
That’s a big chip in the game.
Titan. Where the saying “Blue chip stocks “ gets it origins ? It is the company’s in manufacturing that push the limits and know how put the heat into the chip and not the tool thereby creating that cobalt color. The blue cobalt chip color is sign of efficiency.
Efficiency is key to productivity and the bottom line.
Enjoy a lovely Sunday ☀️
Holy cow, was that cool or what?
O M G SUS316?
extreme hogging :-0
Like buddah!
stainless steel is a lot of things, from degrading lousy shit to really evil material that cant be milled in any form, tried them all, cried a lot over the years ;)
Do this in 13-8 then I'll be impressed.
😁👍
How about titanium? Would that be close enough for you? And no, I wont be doing that DRY LOL
I cut forged titanium all day 160-200 sfm. 13-8 is the devil, we are lucky to get good tool life with anything greater the 250 sfm
Gotcha! The last job i worked at General Atomics was 18 pcs of 13-8 that needed 2,000in3 removed from each part. Im kinda curious how this tool performs in that, too. We will look for some and see what we can do!
Make that face again Barry
Now tell the truth, Big Swole, is that YOU asking, or Kim?
Glad Im 500 miles away from your giant self as i say that 😂😂😂😂
Hahahahahahah