The map that saved the most lives
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Written and presented by
JAY FOREMAN @jayforeman
MARK COOPER-JONES @markcooperjones
Edited by
JAY FOREMAN
Director/DOP
JADE NAGI @jade_nagi
Subtitles
Dutch - THOMAS JOOSTEN @Thoomas01
Esperanto - MICHAEL SEATON @mikeo_s
Folk Round by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommon....
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Are you open to negotiating? I’ll sign up for audible and you make a series of the pair of you visiting every motorway service station in the country. Seems like a fair trade and it’s clearly what the people want. 😂🤞
I'll use aaaaaaaaaaaudible
My name was in your credits really freaked me out. Jack Herbert really made me jump
Guys like your videos please be more frequent PLEASEEEEE
You should talk to emperor tiger star
You gotta love how they reused the "E" and "W" Shirts that stood for East and West Ham in a previous video
🏆
You are a true Jay Foreman fan
@@JayForeman are there consultation prices?
Ewww!
This is known as sustainable resource management and they might be featured again in a future video on that topic. At least I hope.
Yesssssss Map Men are back! The hope we all needed
history of thundermountain at carowinds?
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@@EduNauta95 I think you mean HOMMES CARTES CARTES
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This video was sweet!
ok
ok
First, I saw you 4096’s new shooter video, and now here!
Just like that old lady's water
Ok
Henry Whitehead was more than just the local gossip. He was Instrumental in convincing the world that cholera was water-bourne. After Snows death, he carried on the work and ultimately proved the point during a later outbreak in the East End. This led London to remode their sewage systems.
Also, it wasn’t the local authorities who refused to heed the advice of John Snow and Whitehead, it was he scientific community. The whole point should’ve been the bravery of two men who were willing to challenge majority opinion using the scientific method!
Another factor that led to the new sewers was the great stink of 1858, that name explains it all.
That was the point. They mentioned that it was the scientific community that ignored Snow's findings.
I think the confusing part is that "people in charge" is referring to scientific authorities in the historical example, and political/governmental authorities in the modern analogy. But I think the general gist of the analogy is true regardless - that people in charge in pretty much any context will have a tendency to keep the status quo.
The other scientists were doing their job, which is to be skeptical of new claims and make people proposing new ideas show their work. Which Snow and Whitehead did.
Yes, exactly. Thank you very much for adding this information!👍
@@vaiyt But as you say Snow and Whitehead did show their work and present enough evidence to convince the scientific community to at least take a look at their research. But nobody did.
"Which doesn't sound sexy, and isn't sexy, but I STILL LIKE IT."
= Literally all of my interests ❤️
Same!
All my interests are sexy.
Girls clearly just don't want sexy anymore.
Well good. Viruses do not make good shagging material anyway.
Map men are back! 2020 sucks a little less now.
there is hope!
Agreed
I let out a little cry of joy on seeing this
I'd say 2020 has, in fact, gotten a little bit sweeter... *spittake*
IKR YAYYYYYYY
There's nothing more British than toasting to a man who didn't drink.
Cheers 🍻
St. Patrick knows the feeling.
@@leeboy26 controversial!
The phrase “I don’t drink” is synonymous with the phrase “I only drink on the weekend” in English. In Irish, it means “I’m not Irish”.
@@leeboy26 Indeed lol
I am vaguely disappointed that they are not spending the next 52 days visiting every motorway service station in Britain.
Me too. Fuck castles, that sounds like an unmissable road trip. At least Tebay has a nice pond with some ducks in it, what other natural beauty do you need 😁
Yeah I was kinda hoping that was going to happen
Pretty sure it's a joke about All The Stations where a couple visited every railways station on the mainline in Britain
I would actually love this. I bet they all have interesting stories.
Jay made a mistake; he made the ad too interesting!
"We're the men, and here's the map"
The only sentence that could save 2020
200th like
*Map men map men map map map men men*
Absolutely
I would 100% watch these guys drive around every service station in Britain
YES
I would only watch if there were maps though
I would 100% pay to see it
I thought it was real at first and was looking forward to it.😞
Not gonna lie, I was looking forward to another show from them.
They had to create new alter-egos for the ad at the end because Jay would definitely enjoy visiting every motorway service station in the UK.
For a few sweet seconds I thought there was a series incoming.
@@1tychoma Same
"Instead of getting cholera, they'd been getting drunk" that had me creasing 🤣🤣
i love how you guys literally sang: Men, men, men , men, men, etc. At the end, that´s dedication right there
I was sat in the other room trying to ignore Jay doing this for 20 minutes.
The people playing the French horns under that were also incredibly impressive! ;)
@@mikeoas that’s all Beardyman.
There was many Map Men patreons.
It's not continuous. It's men, men, men, men on a loop
Can't wait for the "All the service stations" series to begin
Me neither, I love it!
They should invite Geoff Marshall already...
*Geoff and Vicky have entered the chat*
I'm not sure if they just invented that idea for their advertisment
Can't wait for the song.
I was actually looking forward to them looking at every single service station. Am I that easily amused now? 😂
same 😂 I was slightly disappointed when I realised it wasn't actually going to happen
Me too.
I also thought it was a teaser for an upcoming episode hahaha
I would unironically enjoy a 52 part series where they visit every single service station in the country, giving them 1-5 star reviews and pointing out features of interest. It would be the most interesting thing about the most uninteresting thing.
All the Stations has set a pretty strong precedent
Naming a pub after someone who didn't drink is like naming a military hardware testing range after Gandhi. I love it.
We (Australia) named a swim centre after a Prime Minister who drowned. We definitely get a lot of our sense of humour from the British.
Gandhi's Guns
"Morrissey Meat Market"
@@RatelHBadger Sure it'd be "Ghandi's Nukes."
Gundhi
I don't know why, but that outro had me tripping balls after a while.
Same
oooooodible
Ikr? Especially these little breaths
THEY BREATHED
THEY BREATHED AGAIN
COUGH WHAT WHAT WHAT
it was so funny
John snow figuring it all together in 3 days is impressive.
I haven't done that much work this year....
During a cholera epidemic in Copenhagen in the 19. century, they even wrote on the beer bottles, that beer prevented cholera! The fact was, as also said in the video, that no cases of cholera were seen among the workers on the breweries - 'cause they were not drinking water!
All the water that was used in the beer production was boiled and fermented. Most deadly bacteria would of died from the heat for beer makeing.
(This comment is ment to clear up those questions “but isn’t beer made from water?”)
Sorry if it sounds rude I may need to sleep
@@spacetechempire510 Not rude at all 😉- that’s exactly the case, - the pasteurization killed the bacteria 😉
Hdjajfs brewers really be wilding. Only drinking beer. I will die in a week drinking only beer.
@@dan-gy4vu Me to - but at least we wouldn’t die from cholera 😉
Is it just me who has these periods where they binge-watch all of Foremans videos in a span if like 1-2 days.
I've been putting on the Map Men playlist most nights to help me get to sleep (because it's relaxing and familiar in a cozy way, not because it's boring, of course!)
Everyone watching youtube should have at least one channel they do that on.
forsenE
@@jamesyeung3286 I C Bajs
🔭 forsen1 I C BAJS
“You know nothing John Snow”
“Actually I mapped the cholera outbreak in London and discovered the source of it”
“Okay maybe you know something John Snow”
scientific community: "you still know nothing john snow"
Wrong John, the H is not silent
**obscure Extra History reference**
@@СеменМаликов-ш1р So happy at least one other person pointed it out!
I understood that reference.
"This was one of the earliest examples of data journalism, which doesn't sound sexy and isn't sexy, but I still like it."
Well, those poor beggars had no choice but go outside and ask randomly selected strangers about their experiences and then map those strangers.
Nowadays all you need to do is make a few phonecalls (pardon, I'm rather old we still used telephones to talk to each other in those days) I MEANT google stuff on the internet or just plain make up things as you go.
People don't want facts, they want to be entertained!
But it actually sounds sexy. And it is.
Does anyone else want to see Edward and William travelling to all UK service stations?
Me
Took me a few seconds to recognize that it was just a setup for the ad. Then I was disappointed that it wasn't really happening.
@@BowlOfRed They may surprise us!
@@BowlOfRed I know, I want the Service Station videos!
Featuring train enthusiast Geoff Marshall
I would make a rather witty remark about how John Snow’s contact tracing in the mid 1800s was better than ours now, but... too soon. Too real.
Proof what can be achieved with less corruption
And yet accurate
to be fair, cholera is a little easier to trace... just follow the brown road
And choléra isn't Airborne transmissible
He only had a sample size of a block.... And cholera is transmitted by a static source. The moment interspecies transmission enters there are just way too many variables.... People see many more people. You bump into many many strangers each day. Go to the supermarket and buy something specific and count how many people you come close to Once the pandemic ends otherwise your results will be off due to social distancing (I hope). You'll see soon how MANY people there are.
So bascially when he told everyone what was happening the resounding response was: You know nothing John Snow
Even after he had lots of evidence to support his claims.... this world really has not changed lol
After some guy figured out the germ theory in the 1800's and recommended that physicians wash their hands and clean their instruments between patients they all laughed for a couple decades. And kept infecting people.
@@emjayay That guy was the Hungarian physician Ignac Semmelweis, he ended up in an insane asylum.
This was actually the running joke in Extra History's series on these events :p .
@@safe-keeper1042 Hey, maybe you might know something John Snow...
I feel like this is a testament to what you can get done in 3 days
"What did you do this weekend?"
"I stopped a pandemic by inventing an entire new field of medicine."
"... That's nice."
@@twistedtachyon5877 Yes.😄
"Cholera?"
Nods
"Good!"
😄 That bit put me in mind of The Life of Brian: "Crucifixion? Good. Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each."
4:37 Does anyone else feel compelled to just watch Jay's "Wooow!!" over and over again?
4:38
@@AvadhutAdhikrut that just sounds like it hurts
I appreciate that you wrote "20L" upside down so that it would be right side up while pouring it down the toilet
You should see the back of the container... 😬
@@markcooper-jones7494 Oh hi Mark
@@PiousMoltar hi
@@markcooper-jones7494 Yeah. That was a brilliant way to illustrate the extreme grossness of the disease without being extremely gross on camera. Nicely done.
This feels... pointed, can’t quite put my finger on it
SNEKY
Just don’t lick the finger
Isn't it a bit odd that they mention people not following scientific guidance while being in public without masks?
@@wowisthatgami8293 I’m guessing (and hoping) they filmed those two outdoor scenes when the lockdowns were temporarily lifted here in England. And they seem to be socially distanced from everyone else.
@@wowisthatgami8293 any scientific evidence that masks prevent you from giving/getting corona? Thought not
Did anyone else get weirdly excited when they said they were gonna visit every service station in the UK? really really want that as a series now
Me too. And I really don't know what that says about me now
100% yes
YES
"As what always seems to happen whenever someone does something amazing, John Snow died before his work was accepted"
Too true.
Fun Fact: If you took every OS map of regions of the UK and stitched them together, you'd have a very large map. It probably wouldn't fit in a glove box.
I seem to remember them doing that on Blue Peter once. "Them" being the presenters, not Jay and Mark.
Legend has it, they are still singing the Map Men song to this day.
"Which doesn't sound sexy and it's not sexy, but I still like it!" That's what she said!
"I rose from the miasma"
"Passing swiftly through the moor."
"This is here, water stirs."
"In distance for all that was lost."
“They were drinking Number 14’s Number 2’s” ... glorious writing!
I already knew the whole story but you make it so informative and interesting and entertaining. Thanks!
:-)))
Truly the best thing about 2020 so far, along with Jay's hair.
"scientists spend literally hours thinking of a way to solve this"
Build a pub in the memory of a man that didn't drink at all... you know they are drunk distillery people.
What could be more English?
I live in Slovakia (not Slovenia). Our priest in my town once told us in church about that in times whwen colera wos on here some priests sprinkled a limestone into wells. In one unnamed town people thought their priest gived them poisonous something in their wells so they tryed to lynch him but as they arrived to his house he went out and started to pray. Some of people were drunk and their anger started to rise so they hanged him. When the bishop found out what happend he brought the course over this town for 100 years. In this time they were forbidden to have a priest.
Seemingly yes. But I don´t really know
Watching this channel, Jago Hazzard and Geoff & Vicky has taught me more about English history than I ever learnt at school. Make it enjoyable, and accurate, and learning can be fun. 😁
The world's first epidemiologist and the broad street pump.
Edit: Extra credits did an animation video series on the history of broad street pump, if anyone is interested to look into it more.
I’ll just say this= *jay’s new hair looks great*
Mmmmmm....I disagree
It's only a model.
Got to agree
He has new hair?
Oh yeah lmao
I actually would quite like a series of videos visiting every motorway service station
@Sean Wilkinson you think they are rich enough to buy anything from those places ?
I've only just found this channel and I'm disappointed the service station video doesn't exist.
Basicly:
*Oversimplified dubs Extra History: The Broad Street Pump & John Snow*
Also you should have said:
*"You DID know something, John Snow"*
I went to John Snow college (part of Durham University), and at the beginning of the year there was an event where we all walked through the town following someone brandishing a pump handle.
John Snow: *ends cholera outbreak*
Miasma fans: "You know nothing, John Snow"
extra credits reference
miasma fans vs water contamination enjoyers
is it bad that I'm disappointed that you aren't actually going on a tour of service stations? I would watch those videos
me likewise
They're just waiting for after Corona :P
I'm disappointed that Mark didn't namedrop South Mimms services
They have been drinking Number 40's Number 2s 😂😂😂😭😭
when Mark said "it tastes quite sweet" i died of laughter
SEWAGE ⚠️
Whoever put their name as firstname mclastname on patreon, I salute you
I was hoping the map men men men men would keep going at the end and boy was I beyond happy
i always hope for more men in the map men song, and this was pretty much the greatest ever
Same
I was just about to comment on how the unwillingness of "professionals" to listen to new evidence hasn't really changed.
Then I encountered a wonderful moment of sarcasm. Well said.
"near Killingworth" - of course..
Rather Killingworth than Deadsington...
Jay Foreman Uploads
Me: A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I've been looking forward to this
We will watch Jay's carreer with great interest...
There is also a statue of John Snow at Newcastle University's medical school.
Great video 👍
1 of my university modules' lectures was also about this case
I loved this video! I have worked in maps for years and John Snow is seen in map circles as the big dog who started off the field of Geographic information systems, this technology is still used to map out diseases and plan epidemics including Ebola and SARS! Keep up the awesome work!
Try saying miasma over and over again... it's hard
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
Ah yes, hello fellow kids
hi
Holy moly, this is the real UA-cam UK account!
ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS
Jay's eyes tell me he hadn’t slept a single night while he was away
Jay, your "commercials" are THE BEST!!!!! I aways watch all the way through .... lol ...
I have waited ten thousand years...
An interesting note on a similar map. Thomas Shapter's cholera map of Exeter. It predated Snow's broad Street pump map and likely influenced the design as it was basically exactly the same and and an even earlier use of data journalism. Only, Shapter's map was used more to measure statistics than to see where Cholera came from.
Anyway Shapter's map is in the Exeter uni library and there's a special course you can do about diseases which features the map.
How very interesting...
That actually IS interesting, at least to me.
@@ixlnxs ah cheers man appreciate that
"Why aren't you working"
MAP MEN MAP MEN MAP MAP MAP MAP MEN MEN
"Ooh screw that let's just watch it"
I have a good boss.
Aye, you do! Give him my compliments for good taste :)
It's really kind of interesting that he was a teetotaller in a time when light alcoholics were basically the safest drink available. Obviously he had the right idea about the distilled water, which allowed him to avoid the pitfalls of drinking alcohol, AND the pitfalls of not drinking alcohol.
3:19 Speaking of Poland - "cholera" is a common polish swearword, loosely transtlating to "dammit!"
The Dutch, who use every and any disease known to man as a swear word: Are you challenging me?
@@deJessias gewoon op je klerewoorden letten en dan zie je dat wij cholera ook gewoon gebruiken
But it's more pronounced "Holera". Kurwa is better imo.
@@whoeveriam0iam14222 Ik zeg ook niet dat wij het niet gebruiken, gewoon dat wij met nog veel meer ziektes schelden
@@malgorzatakawken Kurwa nie.
John Snow invented the discipline of "Statistics".
Or 'Epidemiology', for that matter.
Stats had been around for a while. As Pieter says, he was the father of modern epidemiology.
@@nickalasmontano1496 He did apply with this map a Voronoi diagram before the mathematician was born, though. So maybe 'some' statistics done by him could perhaps be considered innovative.
The thing is I actually really want to see Mark and Jay on a service station road trip. Please make it happen!
Sadly not Mark & Jay but these guys have been doing a service station video series recently ua-cam.com/channels/icSZTMCesYkoNgkGhn2KFA.html
Anyone else feel a glimour of hope thinking the Edward and William motorway service station tour was going to be made
John snow is amazing and thanks to him the world is cleaner and safer. I learned about him because extra credits made a video about him years ago.
I learned more from these 6 minutes than I did in entire GCSE lessons in the same subject. ‘Medicine through time’, more like waste of time 🙃
At 5:52 they’re the same shirts you used in the why does London have 32 boroughs video
Well spotted! The t-shirts were lying around and that’s why our characters were names Edward and William.
@@JayForeman Edward Ham and William Ham (Williham?)
No mention of John Snow, the cricketer. He should have been the Third Man!
Since when did Flight of the Conchords develop British accents and start doing geography related humor?
Holy shit I was wondering who they reminded me of
OH MY GOD I'm glad someone else sees the resemblance!
With apologies to Tommy Wiseau: Water story, Mark!
Okay this is the best joke in the comments.
@Sean Wilkinson Without meaning to burst your bubble: as far as I understand it, 'Wiseau' is a corruption of 'Oiseau', which is French for 'bird' - Tommy was nicknamed 'The Birdman' in his early days in San Francisco after migrating from France.
The Ghost Map by Steven Johnson gives a great detailed accounting of Snow and what he was up against- it’s a really interesting read.
Title should be “Map Men map map which saved many men”
map men map map which saved many men, men
how dare mark become MORE HANSOME after shaving his beard
Sorry, disagree.
beards are overrated
+apala734
To compensate, I've grown a beard between the last Map Men and this one. You are welcome!
When Jay reaches 1 million subscribers, he should write a song that uses and interlinks all of his other previous songs.
thats years of work.
@@davidty2006 Yes, I suppose, but I meant that he takes little sections from each of his popular songs and links them in to make a bumper song.
I'd prefer the Map Men song with 1 "Men" for every subscriber
YES!
Jay Foreman's ads are the only ads I will actually watch... I'm still cracking up about the "we've all got thyme on our hands" gag.
7:42 the breath
I heard "map that stopped a deadly disease" and knew it was about my boy John Snow.
Big shout out for John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme being used to illustrate Audible!
Don’t forget to check out John Finnemore’s superb cameo in our video about Tower Bridge!
All the Service Stations, all of them.
..... and NO time for Castles !!?
@@watson956 shame.
@@watson956 *sad American noises*
An amazing video about such an important lesson from history. I taught my class of Year 5 this event when I used to work in Ealing. I hope it is still taught at schools.
"And on the way we'll get to see loads of castles and cathedrals and things"
"NO! There's no time for that!"
Proof that the Map Men are not Russian agents
Imagine solving one of the worlds biggest crisis in 3 days.
I love that they reused the e and w shirts from East ham and West ham from the unfinished London series in the advert at the end.
And I love that you noticed!
@@JayForeman woah active in older video as well?
@@JayForeman Didn't expect a reply... Now I guess I am honor bound to click the link and sign up for Aaaaaudible.
These boys coming in at the last second to single-handedly save 2020
Seriously, I'd really like a tour of all the motorway service stations, including those that have disappeared, those that are now on A-roads, those that were on A-road and are now on motorways, and those that are projected to be built soonish. I know, I'm a boring t£"t. So, when this is all over, you can do "All The Service Stations".........
Thank god, here in America, our elected officials listen to scientists, never politicize public safety, and support democracy.
You would think they would have learned their lesson when corona deaths ended apart from in the US.
@@psinno there is no learning for the 74 year old orange baby and his anti-intellectual minions.
@@bucyrus5000 Oh look someone on the internet using insults as an argument, so original.
@@bucyrus5000 that's an insult to babies!
Ouch! I hurt myself on that sarcasm
I love the subtle nod to Brassed Off with the music at 1:37
Good to see my favourite channel is back :)
A good ad transition, but not quite as good as "We've all got thyme on our hands".
1:10 that backgrounds Gloucester, not York. It's a reversed image taken from the North side of the cathedral by miller's green. Used to live there
instead of getting corona, ive been getting drunk.
I fear for my health now with the pub closures
Map men: *comes back*
What normal people see: oh cool a new video
Me: the return of the king
What i see: THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED.
there is plenty stopping me from using audbile, like giving amazon money. just one of the many reasons to not use audible that ive mapped out. ironically, i learned all my map-making skills from the map men. this is one of the best channels ever; thank you
Not that John snow, not that John Snow, that John Snow....