Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves BREAKDOWN! Easter Eggs & Details You Missed!
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What’s the DnD movie about? Who are the members of this adventure party? Edgin, Holga, Simon, Xenk, and Kira must fight the evil Red Wizard of Thay, Sofina, and her dastardly conman companion, Forge. Whitney Van Laningham goes frame by frame to break down everything you might have missed in the D&D Honor Among Thieves!
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My favourite detail with the intellect devourers is that the group is ignored because none of them are intelligence based classes
"...That's hurtful."
My DM gave the most belly-aching laugh when that scene came up 😂
I'm glad that I wasn't thee only one who noticed that lol
Honestly, the whole of the underdark was GOLD.
@GreenNightlight That was funny but also didn't make any sense because, by their classes alone, they're extremely intelligent.
I liked that the sorcerer was a terrible sorcerer because he wasn't confident enough since sorcerers are a charisma based class.
yeah most people don't know the difference between sorcs and wiz classes... this was a pretty cool distinction between them
I did not think of that! That is pretty cool!
I figured it was just wild magic. Good point.
minor detail was during the underdark the two humans held lanterns while the tiefling and halfelf didn't maybe due to having darkvision.
That's a clever detail!
OMG yeah. It's all these D&Details that give me all the FEELz.
I noticed that too! I also noticed that Xenk didn’t have a lantern either which makes me wonder about his heritage
I thought I was the only one who noticed that at my theatre. 😂
@@lazerboi6607 It really is
Another fun detail you missed was that the Helm of Disjunction was surrounded by lead shavings, which prevents anyone from using Locate Object to find where it was
Oh, great thing to notice.
Wow. Nice
Oh wow, great catch!
Oh, nice one! I didn't notice that.
lead shavings? like superman?
The maze is a brilliant nod to the square ruled paper players use to draw maps on.
Used to? That's still my go to in 5e lol
Everything was 5 foot in it as well! So funny
@@TheWillster14 use to not used to
Omg idk how I didn't catch that
There was also a hexagonal area iirc
I thought that Jarnathan being late for the hearing seemed a lot like a player being late for the game so they start without him.
I chalked it up to Bards bad rolls
@@norcaloriginal9087 That works too. Either way, pure DND shenanigans :D
John Feathers is also the name of a giant eagle NPC in Dimension 20's Escape from the Bloodkeep
Personally I think it's the DM hearing the player plan and try to play around it
As a non DnD player, I thought that using Jarnathan to escape was a well known, inside joke in the DnD community. I am a bit disappointed to discover that he is a movie original, but I do think that it will indeed become a running gag because of this movie
When Xenk leaves the party and Edgin comments about how he's walking such a straight line ignoring the minor terrain made me laugh.
@Jonah Henninger, I always wondered if I was the only one, thinking if Xenk would climb the mountain in front of him without going around it. But, he has super hearing. Maybe he was doing it as a jest, to annoy Ed.
It felt like the DM dropping in a super OP NPC. Like they wanted the encounter/session to be challenging but was worried about a TPK. So they get an NPC escort.
Also Xenk: was he wearing the Mariner's armor? The gambeson under the armor had aqua coloring. I found it odd, that someone in plate armor could swim upwards, so it's even some D&D sheninegan, or it's a Mariner's armor.
xenk has adhd confirmed
@@jessicav7210 yeah I got DM pc vibes from him which is why he did all the plot expos, gave the puzzle clues, let them to the macguffin and then walked off for no particular reason before the big fight
The paladin is 100% a DMnpc. Killings things without rolling and then walking straight towards the horizon without stopping.
Yep! Walked over that rock too. Like a video game npc.
Right? “My players are very underpowered for this dungeon. Hmm. How do I assist them?”
1000%
So the actor actually didn't hear "cut" and he just kept walking in character, and Chris Pine improvised the line about him walking over the rock.
When Doric was beating down Saphina it definitely felt like a "how do you want to do this" moment and Doric obliged in a classic DND way of intense brutality
YES! That part was my kids' favorite moment - too bad they're too young to watch all of Critical Role with me.
But I also considered this as a tribute to Hulk smashing Loki repeatedly at the end of one of the Avengers movies.
@@le.domello lmao yes I said that to my friend as soon as it happens when we saw it together lol
@@chainsawboy2388 and the additional throw up at the edge of the building's walls and then corpse being smashed with debris made it all better than Hulk version :D
It felt like they were trying to do a hulk moment, but it looked less like Hulk smashing a puny god into submission and more like trying to shake a baby to death. Great idea. Poorly executed.
It's more a knowing joke than an easter egg, but my favorite bit from the film was when Simon says something along the line of "You can't use magic to solve EVERYTHING!" Many DMs, as well as a few game designers, have said that throughout the years. About as iconic as Edgin saying "You did not let me finish my backstory!" at the beginning (like a lot of players have exclaimed.)
I loved that, at the beginning, when he was like, "Jarnathan needs to hear my backstory, he needs to know my motivations!" I was like, "Oh, is Jarnathan the DM then?" 😂
As a dedicated and die hard wizard player, since 1st edition, I take offense at the idea "Magic can't solve everything". 😃
This movie is a testament on how a good writing and passion can make even the weirdest or often times uninteresting movie into a great hit. This reminds me of the first guardians of the galaxy. I dont know dnd. But this movie, curl my interest in dnd.
Thank you. Now go find a team & roll/ role-play.
the producers said years ago their goal was to make a fantasy guardians of the galaxy...
@@StarFyreXXX it definitely felt that way. was a fun thrill ride too.
@@StarFyreXXX Stylistically, they succeeded. Monetarily OTOH, not so much. Which is a shame. I really enjoyed the movie, and hoped it would do better than it has.
It should have a long shelf life streaming and on cable though.
I'm so happy you pointed out the rust monsters and axe beaks. I love that they added D&D creatures that weren't crucial to the plot. I feel like it adds depth to the world building.
I have this random love of rust monsters, including the fact they were based on some cheap toys from Hong Kong.
the giant clams in the cart also was a brief cameo of classic DnD monsters
@@originaluddite I squealed when I saw them. 40 years veteran of D&D.
@@davidandrew1078 I might have done something similar. Friends next to me possibly just assumed it was because they were cute. :)
It looked like the rust monsters were fighting over a padlock, not just some hunk of metal
9:24 fun fact! In 4e, druids *could* Wild Shape into owlbears, because they were classified as “magical beasts” instead of monstrosities.
There was actually NOTHING fun or factual about 4E
Or 3e shifter
@@RonCarver eh, it's not my cup of tea either, but 4e has its playerbase. it was basically D&D with yugioh mechanics BS, and I can think of 2 people in my friend group who would LOVE that shit.
Fun thing I heard in some interview about the film, is that Jarnathan, the Arakokra, is the name of the character the directors played together during the cast campaign they played before shooting.
My favorite detail was that during the speaking with corpses scene, when they question the first corpse it takes exactly 30 seconds. A round of combat in D&D is 6 seconds long, and it takes 5 rounds to ask 5 questions...equaling 30 seconds.
Similarly, it only takes Sophia six seconds to kill all the guards - a single round of combat.
I didn't see it in the video, and haven't seen it in the comments, but the painting they cut up to use for the portal was of none other than Volothamp Geddarm, author of Volo's guide to Everything! Well done video.
Good catch!
Yesss i was watching the video to see if someone saw that the pain was Volothamp!
I noticed that too!
I loved how Holga acted the part of having Intelligence as a dump stat. Coming up with terrible plans (sneak into a castle as a deer, throw an ax with a rope on it across the chasm)
To be fair, the deer plan wasn't that stupid after all... 🤣
I loved all the "game mechanics" moments! My favorite was when Doric breaks Sophina's concentration in that final battle.
Was great seeing D&D get an actually good movie.
missed the first two, did ya?
@@EpicMuttonChops he said a "good" movie.
@@EpicMuttonChops he said good
@@EpicMuttonChops missed the word ‘good’, did ya?
@@EpicMuttonChops Three, actually, the 3rd one is an evil party - and surprisingly good.
I'm pretty sure the reason Xenk is able to live so long despite being a human is he's an Oath of the Ancients Paladin. At 15th level 'you no longer suffer the drawbacks of old age...', and he's probably at least that high in level. Also in another scene he says that he was taught to 'be the light', which is an exact quote of one of the tenents of the Ancients.
He also explicitly mentions a lesson from the Ancients, or something to that affect, before Chris Pine's character cuts him off at one point in the movie.
I thought he was an aasimar for a good while lol.
Also he uses speak with animals to get the fish to release the tabaxi kitten.
Yep, that was my takeaway as well. Mentioning "the ancients", and using speak with animals to save the Tabaxi kitten.
Drizzt Do'Urden was initially going to take the Paladin's place.
So very glad they did not waste such an iconic character on an initial offering.
During the fight with the red wizard, after the the dragon statue has been overcome, you can see the characters take up position in all of the adjacent squares around their enemy, just like my party does
Flanking for that extra d20 roll lol
Jarnathan was 100% an on-the-spot DM-made name and I love it. DM: “There are four people on the council”
Player: “What are their names?”
DM, reading through the module: “Voss Anderton, human, Jil Torbo, a halfling, Kriv Norixius, a dragonborn, and uhhhhh….”
*realizes that there were only 3 listed and they tricked themselves into thinking there was 4 when they were prepping
“Jarnathan the Aarakocra.”
Players, immediately bursting into laughter: “JARNATHAN????? WE HAVE TO KAKE OUR PLAN REVOLVE AROUND HIM THATS HILARIOUS”
DM, internally: “oh gods, what are they about to do?”
Not to mention the directors being called Jonathan, the DM was like “Oh shit ehhh, my name but slightly different”
@@Fafnirod123 Daniel the DM: "He's, uh... Da'neel. Yes, Da'neel of the Smiths."
Lol
I was terrified by the displacer beasts because I have lost 2 characters to those bastards
*I feel that*
Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine played as his character Kimathi Stormhollow in Joe Manganello's campaign. He's the dwarf in the maze that falls victim to the displacer beast.
Awesome
He is also in the crowd watching the games
I felt like Simon was able to Counterspell the Time Stop because his confidence was higher, reflecting a really high Charisma check.
But spells are not supposed to be affected by Wisdom?
@@RRRRRRRRR33it depends on ur class, but sorcerers and warlocks use their charisma
When Simon was casting spells he supposedly used ASL (American sign language) incorporated into his hand gestures
You missed that Edgin tells the Simon he has another 6 hours to try to attune while on the beach, as the party was taking a long rest.
Simon is also exhausted the next day as he didn't get a chance to actually take a long rest because he was failing at attuning 😅
It was a very specific reference, and I was super impressed
Also, the escape from the chubby dragon was based on a Skill Challenge: the best thing about 4e DnD!
Also again! The intellect devourers didn't notice the party because they all have INT as their dump stat. They use CHR, WIS, STR & DEX as their primary stats for their classes, all dumping INT 😅
@@AdamHetherington wouldn't Simon as a Wizard have a high intelligence stat?
@@DanielWoike Sophia was a wizard, Simon was a Sorcerer, who cast naturally with Charisma rather than study magic with Intelligence.
@@costanzafaust yeah, I just realized that after making this comment. That he was a Sorcerer and not a Wizard.
Fun cameo: Three of the corpses they question in the graveyard are played by the Australian sketch comedy group Aunty Donna
Really!? That's pretty awesome.
I didn't catch that, that's awesome 😂
Friend of mine said apparently the directors wanted to find a place to get the Monty Python troupe to appear as well, but didn't happen. I could have seen them playing the nobles gambling in Neverwinter had things worked out.
I think the DM from Deerstalker Studio's One For All was an earlier cameo too.
Everything's a drum
I love that when Xenk is leading the party through the Underdark, he can hear every comment Edgin was saying under his breath, showing Xenk's high Wisdom/Perception.
I giggled a little when they began their face-off with the red wizard and a round basket rolled by, almost like a tumbleweed. It wasn’t a dnd Easter egg but more a nod to old westerns. Also, I was so hoping we’d see a reference to Drizzt or drows. Maybe in a sequel.
Tbh, when the went into the Underdark, I kinda expected they met with some drows.
@@ryanpratama5635 It's fairly easy to associate drows with the Underdark, so I believe they considered it, but noticed it wouldn't be of good taste to have a group of the most dark-skinned characters in the movie be evil and die within minutes. If I'm right in this assumption, it was certainly for the better. Here's hoping for a bit of Drizzt and drows (and more dwarves!) at the next one.
Drizzt was the film makers’ initial choice for the “guide DM PC” but was replaced with Xenk. And rightly so! He would’ve been too much of a name drop for the first movie. Hoping to see him in the sequel too.
right! like, you could hear the DM narrating it as a western standoff
I've been waiting my whole life to see Drizzt come to the big screen. Hopefully, they make a sequel and bring him in. He's so iconic though they have to take great care to not screw it up. Probably why they didn't do it here. Ultimately, they made the right decision. Drizzt being in this movie would be too much. Would have detracted from the main characters.
Also love how there is a map of the maze on the floor tiles, but the party comes up with a completely different, more creative way to succeed. Feels very accurate to how players sometimes go the complete opposite direction to the DMs expectations
Was only one of the party, like someone rolling a Nat20 in perception, getting a private result from DM, and player relaying their plan to the group (or in this case having to convince the group to go with the crazy idea)
When Xenk and Dralas are fighting there's an over head shot that shows the ground looking like hexagonal tiles.
But a hex is several kilometers wide!!!
@@dForrestTheComicker I'm sure it was just for the look and not trying to be accurate. Rule of cool
Id say the gnome bridge is a reference to old school DND. Since very early on DND was heavily enjoyed by math nerds so puzzles like that, basically complex algorithms, were very common in older modules. In fact while it looks like modern DND, I'd say a lot of it really feels DND 20-30 years ago.
+ being in the Underdark it was likely Deep Gnomes, which are super common. I think that's what was being referenced
I saw it as the DM having come up with this brilliantly complex and challenging puzzle/trap that they think will take the party forever to figure out, and then one of the players does something that completely ruins the whole thing in 5 seconds. 😂
The amount of deception rolls Holga needed to make for those guards and the amount of time they succeeded was brilliant
Themberchaud never ever lights his own breath ... he tries to but it's always lit by another flame
I think when Xenk leaves the party, it’s more reminiscent of the DMs overpowered and over over spotlighted PC just joining them for a quest. He was too badass to stay, but the DM wanted his clearly better PC to be there.
That was my thought as well… way good bye to the DMPC 🤣
Like when Hercules stays on the island in the movie "Jason and the Argonauts". He's too powerful, and after he kills the golem, his job is done. The rest of the party can go on after the mini boss is defeated.
@@gstokker Absolutely. My first thought was DMPC.
what I loved about the party members was like each one of them was a different type of player - Edgin was the experienced player, knowing the drill and rolling the plans out of the sleeve, Holga was the player who came here to smash things rather than do some pompous roleplay, Simon's player just wants to have fun (Simon the Sorcerer is a video game series, clearly being the inspiration for his name, also his motives are quite simple) and Cedric is this one player who thinks has the edgiest backstory and is always a little too serious
I am surprised that nobody that I've seen - here or elsewhere - has seemed to notice the reference to the Bridge of Death scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, when Sir Galahad incorrectly answers what his favorite color is. In Honor Among Thieves, the reference occurs during the Speak With Dead scene, when one of the corpses incorrectly answers what his favorite food is.
Awesome pickup!
I totally caught that as well! Laughed so hard in the theatre!
Yellow, no, blue!
THAT'S WHAT IT REMINDED ME OF
the whole graveyard scene is so Holy Grail it hurts
That whole bit was definitely Monty Python inspired
I felt like the way Xenk talked, he was definitely the DM controlled, super serious NPC in the midst of a party of goofy player characters
In the final fight scene, Simon cast(at least that I noticed) Shocking Grasp, Scorching Ray, and Magic Missile. I'm sure there were a few more there that I missed, but just watched it today for the first time so was engrossed by the spectacle of it.
According to his stat block, the white bolts were Chaos Bolts.
@@steveaustin2686 which is also a sorcerer exclusive. Nice catch.
cant be Magic Missile because he missed
Not D&D related but I haven’t seen it anywhere on the internet yet.
The tattoos on Holga’s arms and in the other barbarian were taken from 2.500 years old Siberian Mummy that was found preserved in ice
I knew I recognised it, good call
I've been a DM for 40+ years, love D&D Lore, and you did a great job here 👍
Who else’s theater had that one group who cheered when they mentioned Baldurs Gate 😂
I don't know what that is but I'm glad it was in the movie. 😅
I was that person, I’m currently playing in a Baulder’s Gate centered adventure and I audibly gasped when they said they were going to Baulder’s Gate, too bad they never ended up going, still a great movie.
I was that person in my theater
@@literalsarcasm1830 As was I. And windy dale. And sword coast. And Elminster. And ...
I was only disappointed there was no Drizzt cameo in the Underdark.
I was one of that group.
I love that rocks fell in the last combat. It feels just like the old “rocks fall on your character” trope lol
Yes! I noticed that, too! Great catch. It made me laugh.
You're right, that's a great catch
I was only a little bit sad that Chris Pine's character never ended up using any magic.
he did inspire the group and constantly were there cheering his group on, bardic inspiration was in effect constantly
magic was the 'sorcerer/wizard' thing, wild shape was the 'druid' thing, being Chris Pine was the 'bard' thing.
He might have through he is a bard in sure
Neither did the Druid, Bardic Inspiration is just more subtle than an owlbear
Yeah he could do stuff like Scanlan from Critical Role, just less hand and more like magical notes and rocking metal tunes to the max 🤘
also i love the detail that xenk, doric and simon arrent holding lanterns while edgen and holga are the ones holding lanterns when they first entered the under dark a small nod to them having darkvision
I literally had the EXACT same reaction to Themberchaud! He was so freaking adorable and I nearly went to bits as soon as I saw him. 😍😍😍
I assumed the clam with the tongue was actually a mimic because the mimic in the maze had the same tongue
i work with a kid with autism and that was his first thought too, i’m inclined to believe it tbh
It was. Good Foreshadowing.
The painting that they put the portal on is also a painting that hangs in several rooms in Neverwinter Nights
Yes, that's Volothramp, the author of all the "Volo's guide to..." books.
I thought the clam with the long tongue was a Mimic taking the form of a clam. If so, that would be hilarious 🤣
same
I thought that too and I've seen movie in the theater...TWICE...IN TWO DAYS STRAIGHT! (Ay 21 likes)
Pretty sure it is a Mimic. The tongue has the same grabby end that the Maze Mimic did.
@@Tonberry88 came to the comments looking for this ^
Yeah, I assume it was the mimic on its way to the arena. Tongue is the same.
When Xenk is fighting the thea Assassins, the ground is clearly hexagonal, clearly a nod to fighting on hex grids. Similarly, the Harper vault where they find the Tablet of Awakening is first shown from a bird's eye view that strongly resembles the view of a DM designed room.
I would venture that the Intellect Devours completely ignoring the party is a nod to the fact that most players use Intelligence as a dump stat and the party all did the same
I thought they rolled so badly there wasn’t any left
😆
the "That's just hurtful" quip was awesome after Xenk's detailed explanation.
I thought that Simon’s illusion of Edgin’s performance was a nod to just concentration, seeing as his foot got stuck in a gap between bricks
But I guess that due to the misstep, he had disadvantage on deception
Either that or the DM made him roll a performance check and he rolled a Nat-1. 😄
I finally understand how my friends feel listening to me talk about Harry Potter and comics: These Easter eggs went clear over my head!
Helga had to have had a nat 20 on that potato throw in the climax
Something I noticed was how the whole party mentioned that Xenk was way to good at what he did which made me think he was a joke at the overpowered DMPC troupe
I thought it was a nice little nod to the Spider Queen as there was a spider just before they went in the hole to the Underdark.
That would make so much sense
I was really hoping to see some drow.😢
@@evolution031680 I am hopeful that there will be another movie that contains Drizzit and the team since Wulfgar is also from the Elk Tribe🤞
My arachnophobic ass was having a pre-emptive heart attack as soon as the Underdark was mentioned. Boy, was I lucky!
Not D&D related but the way the Red Wizard got her beat down was similar to Loki VS Hulk in The Avengers
True the MCU was strong with this movie. Besides the Avengers, Edgin's "failing" speech is eerily similar to Starlord's "loser" speech from Guardians of the Galaxy. (But I liked Edgin's speech better. Better message)
The painting they use is one of the bard volo
I missed that. He did look familiar, but I didn't catch that.
I thought I caught that in the theater. Was scrolling through comments to see if someone else had noticed that one. Good catch!
Xenk can be seen walking in the background after he leaves and everyone is talking. I feel like that's a nod to how it takes people forever to leave after completing a session.
i also loved how he left in a straight line, even just walking over the boulder. like the dm pulling a miniature or token out of play, especially like in roll20
@@Spooglecraft Lol, I interpreted it as something about the character's "rectitude" or something. "He never deviates from his path."
@@Spooglecraft I thought it was a nod to D&D inspired video games where the NPC's just walk in straight lines and sometimes even clip through obstacles, or in his case just walk right over them.
@ That's what Regé (The actor of Xenk) thought when doing it because it was improvised when the director didn't call cut and wanted to see what the actor would come up with.
I know that you say it's the cantrip Green-Flame Blade because it's a sword with green flames, but I think it's actually a Flametongue Scimitar, colored to have green flames.
that's what I thought. Also Xenk's weapon enchantment thing could either be his Channel Divinity: Sacred Weapon feature or Divine Favor.
@@ericlin7775 Yes, I agree.
flametongue is a longsword
@@JavierRomero-jn2tv Flametongue can be any weapon.
i assumed it was a vorpal blade but i haven't played in 20 years so i didn't remember any specific visual details about it other than it stood out and vorpal was my first thought because they were putting in so many easter eggs for us
I didn't realize how much lore they took from previous books and campaigns. I knew they would sprinkle lots of specific creature/spells/items throughout the movie but didn't know it would be as much as they did.
I didn't get to play tabletop D&D as much, but we did have nearly all of the books, among my set of friends. I mostly learned about everything via the video games, like "Eye of the Beholder" and "Neverwinter Nights." I still have the installation floppy discs for probably 6-8 different D&D games.
This movie was great. As a long time DnD player I couldn't have been happier. My kids enjoyed it too.
I was pleasantly surprised after the disappointment of the 2000 movie and it’s second sequel (I thought the first sequel was actually pretty good, just underfunded).
I loved this film so much. It could have been really cheesy but the D&D references are so natural but slight it works so well. Can't wait to see more from this series!
Unfortunately I think they get turned into undead
Im glad I came across this video, I and my DnD group went to see it early in theaters and I was a tad confused and I remember complaining that there was no “weaseling around” a solution. But I just realized that “Use the Aarkoara as a glider and jump out the window” was exactly that
WIldshaping into a snake inside of the Gelatinous Cube then crawling out the void left by your body was peak creative player energy.
@Michael Lafleur, it sounds like something Emily Axford would do.
i mean, "use prestidigitation to blow up the dragon's breath so we can get free into the ocean and escape" is also pretty good, mid-combat strategizing. i really appreciated that kind of thing. the jarnathan stunt was hilarious tho ofc and really helped set the bar high for the rest of the film!
@@AlexGoldhill Followed by attempts to flirt with the cube.
Went and watched it with my brother, we kept quoting our favorite moments from D&D podcast and our own campaigns the whole time. Like when Holga starts wrecking house we were like “how does that make you feel? Would you say you’re…. Angry?” Cause that’s what Dave from dragon friends does when Philg goes into a rage
As someone who never played D&D I was going into this movie completely blind
And everything they shown was awesome enough and was able make me laugh my butt off
i spotted geralt very far from Rivia in the background when they first enter neverwinter on horseback
I felt that the bit with Simon breaking the bridge was a nod to a GM coming up with an elaborate set of rules for a finely tuned trap that they spent hours perfecting/testing and how a player just trying to be funny or chaotic would say something like "I walk over to the bridge and step on the bridge destroying it on accident" because their character is dimwitted or clumsy and it would be "in character" for them to do so. The very long look that Xenk give Simon is the glare of rage and "did you seriously just do that?", that a DM would give a player for shatting all over their hard work and his resulting attitude of "fine, YOU figure out how to get across" is the DM being a bit fed up with the antics.
Then the DM changes a random item they have into a magic item because there is no way they could get across otherwise
When Simon is casting his hand motion is actually signing ASL
I 100% could have missed it, but I didn't interpret the old man inside the helmet to be Elminster, but instead a version of Simon. Once Simon had the confidence to punch him and attune to the helmet, the face became Simon's face. Did I miss the old man saying he was Elminster?
Awesome review, thanks for this 👍
Simon's last name is Aumar and it is mentioned he is the descendent of a great wizard. I did not remember this but Elminster's last name is also Aumar.
@@migueldiez9834 Good call. And if you read the books be Ed Greenwood, Elminster had more than one lover.
I agree. With the change in the end to Simon, it was never Eliminster, but Simon all long, looking like Elminster at first.
Is Elmister even dead?
You didn't mention that at the very end he tries to use Jarnathan to break through the window but it is a stone wall now.
I found it funny when Simon accidentally destroys the bridge, people are planning a risky way to get across and then Simon spots the Hither thither staff and Doric says ‘nice save’.
I felt it could be a pun for a saving throw or at very least coming in clutch with a good roll after failing one XD, Simon having perhaps resisted a trap (the bridge, or the destroying of the bridge) XP
I thought the inclusion of the owlbear wild shape was a nod to the recent D&D rule that does allow druids to now take owlbear forms. So I thought they were actually confirming it more than anything, though I may be mistaken.
I think it was the other way around: it was added to D&D in response to it being in the movie.
I love this movie and Whitney’s breakdown made me love it even more! I hope we get some more D&D soon!! 🤘
I don't know the first thing about D&D and I enjoyed the heck out of this movie. I think that's what made it so successful. You don't have to be a hard core D&D player to understand what's happening. It can just be enjoyed for its own sake.
One Easter egg I don’t think you mention was the hand drawn map of the Harpers stronghold. Looked an awful lot like every groups handmade maps before the internet.
The corpse that can’t do math dies after four questions. Is that why our low INT Bard neglects to ask a fifth question to the last corpse?
Wasn't it five?? What's your name, what happened in the battle, what's your fav food, do you like cats, what's 2+2. Five questions
My favorite part was in the arena. The group of adventurers that were modeled after the characters from the dungeons and dragons cartoon from the 80s.
i’m disappointed at the fact that the mid-credits scene isn’t just some high schoolers getting up from a table and the DM saying “alright, see you guys next week.”
I'm pretty sure the fresh cut grass scent thing was an intentional reference to CR, especially considering the fact that Honor Among Thieves sponsored the CR episode from 2 weeks ago.
Counterspell of the original level (3) can counter higher level spells if you roll high enough: DC 19 for timestop. With Simons published statblock (Charisma 17) that would need a 16 or higher. His statblock does not have counterspell though.
The real Dunegons & Dragons was the friends we made along the way
The real friends were the dragons we made along the dungeon.
@@IceMetalPunk the real dungeons was the friends we made along the dragons way
The Dwarf cleric in the maze scene is literally the artwork for Cleric in the 5E PHB
I think this Xenk might be a Changeling Warlock pretending to be the original. Warlocks get animal spells. When the party is in the Underdark he doesn't require light to see. Also,, he doesn't actually cast smite, but enchants his sword like a Hexblade could. He also states that undead are difficult to kill. This is not necessarily true for a Paladin.
The D&D Beyond stat block has him as a Devotion Paladin. He does have darkvision, so is not wholly human.
Ring of invisibility is considered legendary because its basically the ring of sauron without the curse. Like bruh, that is OP
2:50 The overhead map shot looks like it's from Loke's "Giant Book of Battle Mats".
Tribe of the elk was also the tribe of Wulfgar, friend to Drizzt. All also from icewind dale.
Oh yeah, that’s good catch and great Easter egg
I thought the same thing at first. The tribe mentioned in the movie is not from Icewind dale though
@@tonybalogna137 Some of Wulfgars people moved to Settlestone outside of Mithral Hall after it was rediscovered. That was in like 1380 something i think and the movie takes place somewhere around 1499? the elk tribe could be anywhere by now.
i think the clam was a mimic. i didn't realise this until seeing the chest mimic later on (they appeared to have the same tongue).
also, the baby tabaxi was terrible.
It was definitely a minic giant clams don't have a tongue
Caldwell (one of the two betting lords) might be a nod to "Castle Caldwell and beyond", a DnD module from 1985. First adventure I every ran!
He doesn’t counterspell because of level. He just makes the save. You can counterspell higher level spells.
There's no save vs. Time Stop
He casts counterspell at the highest level he can and then rolls well on straight Charisma check and beats DC19
I just noticed from this video that the helm has the same design as the seal on the door, most likely as a reference to them coming from the same person.
Never having played Dungeons and Dragons, ( because I'm such a dork, that I didn't have enough friends), I missed all of this. I just took the movie at face value. This is interesting to know. Great video. Thanks.
But it was still a superb, fun ride!
My favorite detail in the movie is with the hither-Thither staff is a reference to the wild beyond the witch light 11:34
This movie was so great. I can't wait for it to be released to streaming so I can watch it again.
I saw it twice on cinema :D go for it, it's worth it
If you can afford it, you should see it again at the theater. (Helps support both the movie and Theaters)
I really, really hope that this movie gets a sequel.
It is in the Forgotten Realms, so maybe they can go to Barovia and fight Strahd, as they could have interested him after saving Neverwinter. Who knows.
I agree, I want to see a sequel, but I'm not certain doing a 'Ravenloft' inspired film is the way to go. Since they've basically got Szass Tam as the BBEG, doing a sequel based on 'Dead in Thay' might make more sense.
Don't get me wrong. I love Ravenloft. I think it's probably the greatest DnD module ever written, but I just don't think it would fit a sequel for this movie tonally speaking. Honor Among Thieves is a comedic fantasy. Ravenloft is far more gothic. You could do it, but you might have to be quite brutal with the source material to make it the right tone for a sequel to this movie.
Just saw this movie an hour ago and loved it! Watched the breakdown just so I could basically watch it again and cath all the Easter eggs I missed! Thanks for this video
I assumed the illusion was failing because his foot was stuck and it was breaking his concentration not rolling a bad roll on casting it.
I'd say it was him rolling badly on the stealth and it was how the DM described how the bad roll manifested
I loved Xenk's ludicrous explanation of how to get across the bridge, and was a little disappointed we didn't get to see them at least attempt to do that.