I have had the Sigma trio for a few years. I just recently acquired the Sigma 18-50 f2.8. While there is overlap, there are specific contexts and purposes when any given one of the trio is preferable, and there are specific contexts and purposes when the new zoom is preferable. I am happy to have this very flexible quartet.
Yep Started with the 18-50mm and did a whole roadtrip through Califonia with the lense. No matter if I was at the Grand Canyon or Las Vegas Strip it never disappointed. Added the 16mm and 56mm later though since I wanted something for portrait and astrophotography and I could not be more happy about the lenses.
Great review. In fact that is the review I've been waiting for. Good job Joe. I owned the Sigma Trio, then received the Sigma 18-50 2.8 for Christmas. I agree with everything in your comprehensive review. Well done. I shoot mostly photographic portraits. The sigma 56 is by far my best choice as it is not only super sharp with good contrast, but also is small and light The 56 produces jaw dropping images. The 56 is so sharp I can crop in post which extends it's reach. However having the ability to use the optical zoom of the Sigma 18-50 means, as you said, that it pretty much covers the whole 16-30-56 range of the Sigma primes. I've recently begun to recommend the Sony a6600 + Sigma 18-50 for those asking me what to buy. Since receiving the 18-50 I've done several portrait shoots with it. In a few cases I should have used the 56mm but for most shots the 18-50 does a fine job, and allows zooming across the whole range. Going forward I will plan to use the 18-50 much of the time but will switch to the 56mm when I want better bokeh. I sold the Sigma 30mm 1.4. Why? First because the 18-50 replaces it quite nicely. Second the 30mm isn't the best of the trio. Third because I also have the Sony 35mm 1.8 OSS. For me the Sony 35 vs the Sigma 30 were equal in sharpness. I got more sharp images from the Sony 35mm due to the OSS. I know the Sigma 16mm 1.4 is hugely popular but I rarely use it. It just falls outside my area of use. I don't do city, landscape, or astrophotography. If I need the wide range I can use the 18-50. The extra 2mm just isn't a differentiator for me. So the conclusion for me is the Sigma 18-50 2.8 zoom is now my walk around lens AND my first choice in portrait shoots.
I think a 2.8 zoom is a great compromise for people traveling, or event photographers that can't take the time to swap out lenses. I'm in the camp for max speed on APS-C, or go back to full-frame for any paid work. I think I'm going with the 18-50 for travel or if I run into event stuff. It looks awesome.
The test by the water was really good, apart from showing the autofocus performance, it also showed the bokeh of each lens quite well. Kudos to your wife for modelling work!
I have been thinking about getting this lens for a while now but after watching this video, I'm totally sold. Thank you Joe D for making this helpful comparison video.
Patiently waiting for the 18-50 Fuji x mount to arrive. I don’t think it will replace the trio, maybe the 30mm but definitely not the 16mm and the 56mm, they are just too awesome. They are not really substitute but rather great combo all together.
I have the trio and have had since they all came out. I think I would prefer the zoom as I do a lot of Bush walking (hiking ) and dont like changing lenses too often.
Just mix and match, get the zoom as a base and add the prime that corresponds with your favorite focal length.That way you get the advantages of both worlds and personally I don't know anyone who uses all focal lengths of such a trio to the same degree, most people have a clear preference.
There is another use case: I have a Panasonic Lumix S5 I full frame camera that is my main UA-cam camera. And as something vital for work I tend to take extra care and be a bit on edge if I am taking outside. As I need a B cam, instead of getting a 2000$ Panasonic Lumix S5 II I can get the ZV E-10 and the Sigma 18-50mm for about half price and have a compact, versatile B cam that I can more comfortably take with me with a super versatile high quality lens. The primes are a bit better in certain situations but the zoom is so good that if you do not need the extreme case performance you will probably be better with the zoom. Or you can look at it like this. You can get the zoom and experiment with the different focal lengths. If you rarely shoot at 16mm or 30mm or 56mm maybe you don't need the whole trio.
I understand and appreciate your comments. I simply used the wrong word in that moment and will be sure to be more aware of my verbiage. Thank you again for your comments.
@@joe-d9427 Thank you for the video, Joe. I’m sure it took a lot of effort to produce. I enjoyed watching it, and I agree with a lot of points you brought forward. Keep up the good work. 👍
Good Video, I agree with your finding. I have the Sigma Trio, but often I want something light and flexible to carry. The Sigma zoom is an easy lens to live with and the results are outstanding.
Fantastic review! I was blown away that the zoom lens had better corner sharpness than the 16mm. If one had to be optimal with their resources, I would get the Zoom lens first, followed by either the 30mm or the 56mm. For UA-cam, I believe the difference an aperture of f1.4 on the 16mm is negligible, and 18mm 2.8 would serve its use case. For family photography and video, 18-50 blows the 30 1.4 out of the water. It's much more versatile-- plus when taking group photos, you have to stop down to about f 2.8 or f 4 anyway to make sure everyone is in focus. Btw I have both the 16mm and the zoom lens. Hope your channel grows!!
Hi Dave! I am thinking of buying 16mm for youtube videos, but if you said that the difderence is negligble, then I will buy the more versatile 18 50. Do you have a shot by 16mm amd 18 50 that I can compare to see if the shot at 18 50 is wide enough. Thanks
Hi, never had a camera before. just bought a used Sony a6600 2 days ago. I also bought a used trio (16,30,56 F1.4). That's said. I glad to know that I could replace these 3 lens for 1 when I travel or something. Thank you for taking the time to do this video. Appreciated.
Thank you for your comment. I would say, that if I had the trio, I wouldn’t necessarily “replace” them with the zoom lens. Unless of course you are selling them to buy something else to further meet your needs. The trio, specifically the 30 & 56 mms, are very good as portrait lenses. If I didn’t need the money from the sale of those lenses for something else, I would keep them as great compliments to the zoom for portrait photography in which the extra bokeh can be utilized by the wider aperture of 1.4.
I have the trio for the MFT mount, and use them on my Oly E-M1 Mark II and Mark III cameras for both photo and video. I also have the Oly 12-40/2.8 lens, and also use it for photo and video.And, I have the Oly/OM 20/1.4 lens, which is my favorite for 'studio' photography (me sitting at a desk and talking to the camera). It's interesting that you like to use 24mm with the Sigma zoom. With APS-C or MFT sensors, you need a larger aperture to diminish the depth of field to where you can blur the background even on close-up shots in small studios. It's about 8' from my body to the back wall of my studio (a window with a blind, over a desk with a monitor and twin lamps with Wiz LED bulbs that I set to a royal blue color). I want to blur the background enough so details on the desk aren't distinguishable for a nice aesthetic. I tried the Oly 12-40/2.8 at around 18mm, wide open, but too much DoF for the studio. I started with the Sigma 16/1.4, a great lens, but just not enough DoF for my studio with the wider field of view, and because my camera is on a tripod across the desk from me, I couldn't move it forward to narrow the field of view. The Oly/OM 20/1.4 is a great lens for my situation... the increased focal length tightens the field of view and combined with the wide aperture blurs the background nicely. I've also used the Sigma 30/1.4, and I have to move the camera back a bit to where I can't close my office/studio door... but it gives a great upper chest and head shot and REALLY compresses the scene, reduces the field of view, and nicely blurs the background. I used the 56/1.4 when I'm in a different room and the camera is further away. I would think that the Sigma 18-50/2.8 would have the same issues as the Oly 12-40/2.8... the wide aperture is not wide enough to blur the background. In short, the wider f/1.4 aperture lenses (I also have the Oly 75/1.8) REALLY separate the background and isolate the subject in a way you just can't get with the Sigma 18-50/2.8 or the Oly 12-40/2.8.
I was totally going to sell my Rokinon and Pick up this lens (as I love my Sigma 30mm 1.4). I hate collecting lenses and like having a max of 3 lenses at any one time. However Sigma recently released their 18-50mm F2.8 compact zoom which has great quality (maybe 80% of the primes). This makes my choice much easier, keep the 30mm F1.4 since I find it the best versatile walk around/indoor lens, the Rokinon 12mm (maybe swap for Autofocus) for Stars, Landscapes, creatives, and the Sigma for the walk around. Cannot justify the 16mm F 1.4 when I now can have an 18mm F 2.8. If you use your camera for video at night then I can see the advantage of 16mm F1.4 but I am strictly a photographer. Plus if I needed video I'm fine with graining at higher ISO. Thoughts? I'm about to have a baby and am wondering if a fast tele (or even 56mm F1.4) is usefull. I used to use the Sony 18-135mm zoom for travel but never really liked the photos in many of the shots and was forced to really push in lightroom. Sigma always looked good. Any suggestions?
Thank you for the comment…and the questions, Scott! I get it. You don’t want to carry a lot of lenses around with you. I think that your question(s) really are going to rely upon answering a couple other questions. 1. What type of photography are you doing? If it’s gonna be more portrait photography, or something that you need that extra bokeh, you may consider the Sigma 56mm. 2. Are you needing the variable focal lengths of a zoom? If so how long do you want that focal length? 3. The final question that may answer the other two for you…what is your budget? I look forward to hearing what you’ve chosen.
@@joe-d9427 Ended up selling my Sony 18-135mm to pick up the Sigma 18-50. It's a jack of all trades with very good results. May want to add the 56mm F1.4 later if I need more subject separation for my baby on the way.
I'm acquiring all 4, with my plan for the 18-50 to be the only lens I fly with. Redundant, yes. But each of the primes have perfect use scenarios, as well as slightly better bokeh. The 16 is great for vlogging. The 30 is the first one I bought and is a popular prime every photographer needs. The 56 is a fantastic portrait lens. With these 4 Sigmas, I might be able to avoid buying a single Fuji lens. These 4 lenses might be all I need for the Fuji S-X20.
As for me, I owned sigma trio but sold the whole, plan to buy 56 1.4 again. 30 has bad fringing, 16 I didn’t used because I have 17-70 tamron with OSS, 56 is very good for size and performance. Zoom also has bad colour fringing.
Thank you for your comment. I have seen some fringing with the zoom. However some of that can probably be taken care of with a simple UV filter. I haven’t tried but would be a good test. Cheers!
Zoom lens is a must have for flexibility. This one is a good choice to have considering the price. This brings me back to the 17-70mm 2.8 sigma I used in my canon 80D before when I was still shooting events and concerts. Zoom lenses really gives you a lot of composition most especially when you have tight environments. Nice video man, love your review!
Great comparisons! I brought this zoom with us to our Philippines trip, along with the Viltrox 13/1.4 and Sigma 56/1.4. We're still here, and I have to say that the zoom has stayed on my camera for 3/4 of the time due to its convenience, image quality, and autofocus capabilities.
Thank you for this content I use 95% of the time my a6600 with the sony 35mm f1.8 But I was willing to understand how does the 18-50 f2.8 perform. This was a really well made comparrison, Bravo, Max
@@MaxPhotoGraphic that is a fantastic question. I don’t have any personal experience with a gimbal for my a6600. However I am looking for one. Here’s a couple of links to articles that will provide some good info for gimbal options in 2022. www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-phone-and-camera-gimbals www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/the-best-gimbals-for-your-iphone-gopro-and-camera
After few months of using sigma 18-50 I gone back for sigma trio and sold this tiny cute zoom, on aps-c missed so much faster shutter speed, with F/2.8 on crop u still need fairly good light especially if u got body without IBIS, with F/1.4 you can shoot on almost every light conditions without IBIS. One thing that I miss from sigma 18-50 that would like to have in sigma trio is the speed of autofocus, sigma 18-50 AF speed is so fast & accurate like native lens.
I do understand what you are saying. I have taken care of that by using ND filters. I’m actually using them today while at SeaWorld in the bright sun. Worked like a charm.
Great review, thanks! I'm waiting for the release of the Fuji version. It's a fairly good and most importantly compact lens. I wouldn't necessarily say it's a replacement for the f1.4s since in fact there is no replacement for a fast aperture (bokeh is one thing, but 2 extra stops of light come in very handy in low light conditions as well), however, it is a great general-purpose optic and surely a strong recommendation for a first lens. For me a must-have to complete my compact X-E4 street and travel package.
This is the list of what have. Purchased them all back when I first got the camera and never have used. I really want that one that covers it all as I learn the a6000 camera and only wish to purchase one more, either the Tamron or Sigma as you can see I was a very unsupervised impulse shopper. Camera-Sony-Lens Kit Sony Selp1650 f3.5-5.6 oss Sony 55-210 f4.5-6.3 oss Sony sel30m35 f3.5 no oss Sony sel35f18 f1.8. oss Sony sel50f18 f1.8 oss Sigma 60mm f2.8 Sony selp18105G f4 oss
Well thought out and thorough video Joe, really enjoyed it. I have all 4 of these and would not sell any now except for maybe the 16mm 1.4 which I think I'd replace with an ultra-wide. Cheers from Winnipeg. - Brett
Hi Joe, this is the most helpful video on these lenses, especially the studio example. I am a Reviewer and use studio for 99% of my videos. I am using sigma 30mm for my A-rolls and kit 16-55mm for B-rolls since last 2 years and as you mentioned in the video, the distance adjustment and convenience is quite a issue. Now I am looking to replace both the sigma 30mm and kit 16-55mm with this new lens and would like your opinion on it. Thanks.
Hello Sameer. Thank you for your comment, and question. You do lose an interesting question. Of the three lenses in the Sigma trio, the easiest to replace with the zoom lens is the 30mm. Relative to the kit lens that brings about a couple of other considerations. While, in my opinion, the Sigma 18-50 Zoom lens is far better in quality, the kit lens does give you the added focal length. For me it’s an easy choice. From what you’ve described…it doesn’t necessarily seem like you need, or want, the added focal length. Again, to me, it seems like an easy win for the Sigma Zoom.
Thanks for your review! I own the (newer) Sigma 23mm 1.4 (which is definitely better than 30mm) as well as the 56mm. And still I was thinking about the zoom ... but considering your results, I will probably keep my prime lenses.
I have the sigma 18-50, the 23 f1.4 and the 56 f1.4. Although at first I found myself comfortable using the zoom, now when I go out I take the 23 and the 56 with me. The difference in the bokeh and the low light capabilities make me prefer them to the zoom. I mainly shoot videos. The zoom is comfortable and versatile but if you have 2 prime lenses like the 23 and the 56 which are also small and light then it takes 2 seconds to change them. The zoom is now at home gathering dust.
Funny, you could actually get the 16mm and the 18-50 for less $ than the Sony 16-55. If those last 2mm are really as important as people say, the 16mm would get plenty of use. For me, I just see these as one big happy family, and I'll buy them all piece by piece.
Thank you very much, It has helped a Lot with the struggle .. im a Prime Lens User and was not Sure to go for the 30 mm or just Take the 18-50 to Match my 56mm
Thank you! Very very informative, I think there’s something to be said by having multiple camera bodies on you if you want to use multiple prime lenses and obviously that’s expensive… so if you stick to aps-c the weight works out about the same using some very compact system cameras that have optical image stabilisation or ibis with a much more compact zoom - I’d only get the 56mm sigma and then a secondary canon compact camera - if I had a kid or no time I would be able to use both!
@@bryanevans5398 haha. I’ll actually be doing a review of the Sony 70-50 soon. I bought it and love it. I just used both of these lenses today for some nature and sunset shots.
@@joe-d9427 100% the 70-350 is insanely sharp and I use it a ton. I was in the Philippines recently and loved it but carrying around primes when travelling light wasn't optimal, ergo the 18-50.
You do not need to say ‘constant aperture’ for prime lenses, as their focal lengths does not change. You can instead say ‘maximum aperture’ or ‘widest aperture’.
Great review and recommendation. I use the Sigma 16 mm for outdoors travel and the Sigma 56 mm when I know I will primarily shooting people outdoors. I received the Sigma 18-50 for Christmas and took it to Vegas. This lens was on my camera 95% of the time. Great shots on the strip and at the Grand Canyons.
Thanks for the comment! I think that the Sigma Zoom will serve that need nicely, giving you multiple options for focal length. As well, the 2.8 aperture can serve that type of photography well because you want more of the car in focus but still get a nice bokeh background. Happy shooting! I love car photos!
@@joe-d9427 Oh thank you very much for you fast reply, I didn't think about what you said for the aperture and thats a really good point, one thing I also realized recently that I didn't know would be useful is that the lens doesn't rotate the filter so its great for a CPL, choosing a lens is hard when you start so thanks for your advice I think this one is the one I need!
Hi, Joe. Are you going to keep the trio and 18-50mm zoom? I now have 16mm and 30mm for my a6500. I am considering to sell them and get a 18-50mm since I do not like bringing 2 or 3 lens when I go out for a trip. I want to ask, which lens do you often use when you have the trio prime lens and the zoom? Due to your experience, Could you give a percentage of time that you use each of them. for example 85% for zoom, and 5% for each of the trio. Thanks
That’s a good question. I use the zoom lens the vast majority of the time. The 16mm is my lens for streaming and UA-cam recording. As for the other primes in the trio, I would use those for portrait photography because of the wider aperture. The zoom is what I use when I go out and about. The convenience for photos and video is just excellent!
Thank you for the comment! To answer your question it really depends on what you plan to do with your camera. You have to ask yourself the questions…How much does the extra bokeh make a difference to what you are doing? How much does the extra focal length of the 56mm make a difference for you? How much difference does the convenience of carrying one lens versus multiple lenses make to you? Once you can answer those questions you will have the direction you need to take. Also consider the fact that if you don’t really need those prime lenses because of what you are doing with your camera, you can use that money to put toward other lenses or equipment.
Hi Joe, thanks for the video, new subscriber. I focus pretty much 100% on photography. I'm interested in a lean gear bag. I have the 16mm Sigma and it's fantastic. I'll add the 18-50 as my everyday walk around lens. what do you recommend for a telephoto to give me the reach for times when you can't get close? I'm looking to add just one more lens to to my bag. thanks.
That’s a great question. It would all depend on your budget. There are some fantastic lenses when you are able to spend over $1000. For my budget for now. I use the Sony 55-200 kit lens. It’s better than many people give it credit for. Has OSS but not a constant aperture. I have taken some great photos with it and will be doing a video about it soon. Thank you for your comment/question!
Thank you so much for the video it helped me to choose my first lens as a beginner. If you can for the future when putting photos samples it would be nice to know at what f stop, shutter speed and iso you used because it will help me understand more on how to use the lens correctly. Thank you again, God bless you 🙏 I will be going with the zoom first then the trio later.
Great helpful video. Thank you. I just subscribed. I've been researching the Sigma 18-50, comparing it with Tamron 17-70. That's probably another video but still, your video was very helpful as another option for me was the Sigma Trio. I'm new to photography. I have the a6400 body, Sony 18-135 lens, and Sony 1.8 50mm lens. Bought it all a few years ago and now looking to upgrade/add. I like night time and sports photography. I don't do much video. Really still exploring. I think - My goal over time is to own the Tamron 11-20, Sigma 18-50 and Sony 70-350. I'm glad these great options exist and Joe, am really thankful for the work you put into this. It is a huge help to people like me. Really well done and understandable. Thanks!
New subscriber really liked your video. Covering it well and giving some great insight. I am torn between the Sigma 18-50 and Tamron 17-70 as my daily go to on my a6000. They both have a strong draw in their on way, stabilization, size, weight, weather proofing, price point, with similar end result. Don’t know yet which way to turn.
Thank you for the kind comment. That’s a tough call. One consideration to think about is whether you need the extra focal length of the Tamron. If not can you use the money you save to purchase another lens or piece of equipment that can help you in other ways?
@@joe-d9427 I agree with your line of thinking! The price difference between the two would let you buy a nice gimbal, too, which would grant stabilization for all your lenses and not just the Tamron!
If you do a lot of video, the optical stabilization of the Tamron is excellent. The only downside of the Tamron is that it is not as compact as the Sigma. If the camera has IBIS or not may be a deciding factor. I got both the Tamron and recently added the Sigma for a more compact kit.
Actually let me correct that, you definitely have inconsistent focus with your shots on both lenses. Anybody looking at getting the 16mm, don't worry it doesn't actually perform that poorly at f4. Anybody looking at getting the 18-50mm, don't worry it doesn't actually perform that poorly at f8.
Thank you for commenting. You are correct in that there are trade offs if you are using this lens on a full frame. This could still be a good option for an all around option when you go for a hike or stroll around town. But if you've got a full frame camera, you definitely need to take these things into consideration.
Good job Joe. I’m debating between the 16mm and 30mm prime lenses for studio talking head work. I know a lot of people use the 16mm but I was thinking the 30mm could be a possibility??? What’s your thoughts?
Thanks for commenting. What a great question! I still primarily use my 16mm lens for my videos in studio. However, I know that I can use the zoom lens anytime as a good substitute. It would give you a good range of options for your talking head videos, giving you variety. And you can get more out of it if you decided to go out and do some b-roll shooting and photography. I love flexibility and options.
Nice video very accurate video... very helpful... thanks 🙏 Please sir, A video on the performance of Tamron 17-70mm 2.8 Sony lenses would be very helpful 🙏...It would be great for me if you could provide this video...thanks 🙏
I own the trio. It seems like I almost never have the right lens on the camera for the conditions. Especially family. I’m always asking people to hold while I grab another lens. The zoom is very tempting. Also Tamron’s 17-70 with stabilization is another option though much bigger and more costly.
@@joe-d9427 I went, I saw, I liked, I bought…this lens is now my smallest and most versatile in the collection. It’s just fun to grab and go. I may liquidate some lesser used ones.
Thank you for your kind comment! As for upgrading…I would say it depends on what you are doing/what your needs are. As I mentioned in the video, I use my Sigma 16mm as my main lens for recording in the studio. The 18-50 Zoom is what I take when I go out to shoot in public. The other consideration is…do you need to sell the 16mm to be able to buy the zoom lens? If not, I would consider keeping the 16mm and simply adding the zoom lens to your bag. I hope that helps.
it’s a hard no from me as far as the 18-50. Doesn’t matter how sharp or convenient it is, it’s still a 2.8 against 1.4. Also the difference between 16 and 18mm is more than most people realise. If you don’t need to shoot in low light and 18mm is wide enough, then the 18-50 is alright but it’ll never compare to prime lenses.
Ultimate 3 lens travelling setup, 18-50, one 1.4 of your preference and another one lens for speciality, either ultra wide like 12mm samyang AF (16mm is too close to 18mm) or the telephoto 70-350 16, 18-50, 56 is just lazy and limiting the perspective you can shoot in one location
Thank you for your comment. Yes, depending on what you are wanting access to, it can be limiting if you only have those three lenses. But it just depends on what you want to do. If you’re wanting access, at all times, to take the widest array of photos at varying focal lengths, I would agree that having a telephoto would be great to have access to in your bag. Thanks again
I have Sony ZV-E10 with Kit Lens, Planning to upgrade Completely confused if I need to go for Sigma 30mm 1.4 vs Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 Only worry is if Zoom lens can beat the sharpness and low light performance of Sigma 30mm prime lens Any thoughts ??
it depends on your purpose, where you shoot. if it is indoor zoom lens better. For outdoor, you pick any prime lens from the sigma trio@@arunmanojsenthilkumar4389
I've watched tons of vids and this is by far the best, im in between the 56mm or the 18-50, i own a sony a6400 +Sigma 16, but i want to do some portraits and night photography (clubs and maybe some streets) how would the 18-50 be for low light scenarios? Seeing as the 18-50 is more versatile im leaning towards it but the 56 bokeh is tempting (and budget friendly atm of my finances xD), thanks for your video you got a new sub, keep up the good work ✌️kind regards from chile.
Thank you for your kind comment! As for using this lens for low light photography…I use it frequently for night photography. I have loved my pics with this lens for night photos. I understand the desire for the bokeh! If you were using it for portraits as your main purpose for the lens, then I would say the 56mm would be the right lens. But the zoom lens is the better option for all around photography.
Great review! I am really surprised at how well the zoom compared to the primes in terms of image quality. I have the Sigma 30 f/1.4 for my Canon EOS M50 and I love it, but that system is sorely missing a decent standard zoom option. It looks like the end of the line for EOS M, so I'm thinking of switching. I will probably switch to Fuji next year when this lens becomes available for it and get it along with a couple primes. X-S10 has IBIS at a $1000 price point, which you can't find anywhere else.
I own the sigma trio for EF-M mount M50. I have a problem with the 30mm. The further the subject is away from the lens, the more it back focuses. rendering it useless for anything but close up portraits. I bought the dock ud-11 dock recently thinking id be able to adjust this via custimizarion in Sigma Optimisation Pro software (because thats how it was marketed) but turns the option is not available for any lens in the trio. you can only update the firmware (which does not resolve the issue). its really frustrating and disappointing.
That said the 30mm is the cheapest of the trio, but it’s also a really critical focal range for me and really expensive to replace. The canon 32mm is a much better lens but almost twice the price. This issue has me reconsidering the M50 all together because I’m not sure I want to dump any more money into it. Curious if anyone else has encounter an issue like this or has experience with Sigma support.
Thank you for commenting. I will say, that I am seeing more people discontented with the Canon offerings as of late. There is a definite shift to Sony photography products. They are really listening to their customers.
Great job there! Got allready 16mm Sigma. So this will be best upgrade for next lens for ZV-E10 or should i go for another one? Best recommendations for that? Doing vids in home and some randon B-rolls in outside :)
Thanks for commenting. What a great question! I use my zoom lens everywhere. While I still primarily use my 16mm lens for my videos in studio, I know that I can use the zoom lens anytime as a good substitute. That being said...my zoom lens is the one I take everywhere. My 16mm stays home most of the time. This is a fantastic option for the Sony ZV-E10!
@@joe-d9427 Yep, perhaps is add this to my collection at some point. In most of cases i am so lazy to do b-rolls with ZV, so i prefer use my phone for it; iphone 13mini and new phone is coming - fenfone 9.
I have had the Sigma trio for a few years. I just recently acquired the Sigma 18-50 f2.8. While there is overlap, there are specific contexts and purposes when any given one of the trio is preferable, and there are specific contexts and purposes when the new zoom is preferable. I am happy to have this very flexible quartet.
You are exactly right. Thank you for your comment.
Yep
Started with the 18-50mm and did a whole roadtrip through Califonia with the lense.
No matter if I was at the Grand Canyon or Las Vegas Strip it never disappointed.
Added the 16mm and 56mm later though since I wanted something for portrait and astrophotography and I could not be more happy about the lenses.
Great review. In fact that is the review I've been waiting for. Good job Joe.
I owned the Sigma Trio, then received the Sigma 18-50 2.8 for Christmas. I agree with everything in your comprehensive review. Well done.
I shoot mostly photographic portraits. The sigma 56 is by far my best choice as it is not only super sharp with good contrast, but also is small and light The 56 produces jaw dropping images. The 56 is so sharp I can crop in post which extends it's reach. However having the ability to use the optical zoom of the Sigma 18-50 means, as you said, that it pretty much covers the whole 16-30-56 range of the Sigma primes.
I've recently begun to recommend the Sony a6600 + Sigma 18-50 for those asking me what to buy.
Since receiving the 18-50 I've done several portrait shoots with it. In a few cases I should have used the 56mm but for most shots the 18-50 does a fine job, and allows zooming across the whole range.
Going forward I will plan to use the 18-50 much of the time but will switch to the 56mm when I want better bokeh.
I sold the Sigma 30mm 1.4. Why? First because the 18-50 replaces it quite nicely. Second the 30mm isn't the best of the trio. Third because I also have the Sony 35mm 1.8 OSS. For me the Sony 35 vs the Sigma 30 were equal in sharpness. I got more sharp images from the Sony 35mm due to the OSS.
I know the Sigma 16mm 1.4 is hugely popular but I rarely use it. It just falls outside my area of use. I don't do city, landscape, or astrophotography. If I need the wide range I can use the 18-50. The extra 2mm just isn't a differentiator for me.
So the conclusion for me is the Sigma 18-50 2.8 zoom is now my walk around lens AND my first choice in portrait shoots.
Nicely stated. My next lens will most likely be the Sigma 56 for the reasons you listed. Thank you for the comment and the kind words!
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Thank you for such a useful review love form India 🇮🇳
I think a 2.8 zoom is a great compromise for people traveling, or event photographers that can't take the time to swap out lenses. I'm in the camp for max speed on APS-C, or go back to full-frame for any paid work. I think I'm going with the 18-50 for travel or if I run into event stuff. It looks awesome.
Good breakdown
I have the 30 F1.4 for night photography and got the 18-50 F2.8 as my walkaround daytime lens
Great choice! I love doing night photography.
The test by the water was really good, apart from showing the autofocus performance, it also showed the bokeh of each lens quite well. Kudos to your wife for modelling work!
I agree. The bokeh was a nice addition to that test. Thank you for your comments.
I have been thinking about getting this lens for a while now but after watching this video, I'm totally sold. Thank you Joe D for making this helpful comparison video.
I’m glad it was a help to you. Come back after you’ve used it for a while and let me know how you like it.
Thanks for the comment!
Best review of this lens on UA-cam. I guess the bigger a channel gets, the less work they need to put in.
Great work, easy subscription!!!
Thank you for your kind compliment. I look forward to providing more content like this. Much appreciated.
Patiently waiting for the 18-50 Fuji x mount to arrive. I don’t think it will replace the trio, maybe the 30mm but definitely not the 16mm and the 56mm, they are just too awesome. They are not really substitute but rather great combo all together.
I can’t wait for Fuji to release the 18-50mm as well. Going to be a nice upgrade from my 18-55mm kit lens.
I have the trio and have had since they all came out. I think I would prefer the zoom as I do a lot of Bush walking (hiking ) and dont like changing lenses too often.
Thank you for your comment. The zoom lens is perfect for that need.
Just mix and match, get the zoom as a base and add the prime that corresponds with your favorite focal length.That way you get the advantages of both worlds and personally I don't know anyone who uses all focal lengths of such a trio to the same degree, most people have a clear preference.
Agreed. I will be adding the 56mm for portraits, probably as my next lens purchase. Thank you for your comment!
Now need to carry 4 lens instead of 3 🙂
There is another use case:
I have a Panasonic Lumix S5 I full frame camera that is my main UA-cam camera.
And as something vital for work I tend to take extra care and be a bit on edge if I am taking outside.
As I need a B cam, instead of getting a 2000$ Panasonic Lumix S5 II I can get the ZV E-10 and the Sigma 18-50mm for about half price and have a compact, versatile B cam that I can more comfortably take with me with a super versatile high quality lens.
The primes are a bit better in certain situations but the zoom is so good that if you do not need the extreme case performance you will probably be better with the zoom.
Or you can look at it like this. You can get the zoom and experiment with the different focal lengths. If you rarely shoot at 16mm or 30mm or 56mm maybe you don't need the whole trio.
The Sigma 18-50mm was not designed for full frame cameras. It is specifically optimised for the aps-c image circle.
I understand and appreciate your comments. I simply used the wrong word in that moment and will be sure to be more aware of my verbiage. Thank you again for your comments.
@@joe-d9427 Thank you for the video, Joe. I’m sure it took a lot of effort to produce. I enjoyed watching it, and I agree with a lot of points you brought forward. Keep up the good work. 👍
@@joe-d9427 I freaked out at that point of the video. Can you add a tag to that moment of the video to warn people who dont see this comment?
Good Video, I agree with your finding. I have the Sigma Trio, but often I want something light and flexible to carry. The Sigma zoom is an easy lens to live with and the results are outstanding.
Thank you for your comment. It’s amazing how convenient the zoom lens is.
Fantastic review!
I was blown away that the zoom lens had better corner sharpness than the 16mm.
If one had to be optimal with their resources, I would get the Zoom lens first, followed by either the 30mm or the 56mm.
For UA-cam, I believe the difference an aperture of f1.4 on the 16mm is negligible, and 18mm 2.8 would serve its use case.
For family photography and video, 18-50 blows the 30 1.4 out of the water. It's much more versatile-- plus when taking group photos, you have to stop down to about f 2.8 or f 4 anyway to make sure everyone is in focus.
Btw I have both the 16mm and the zoom lens.
Hope your channel grows!!
Thank you for the comment! You’ve hit the mail on the head. Sigma has really made a great zoom lens at great price!
Hi Dave! I am thinking of buying 16mm for youtube videos, but if you said that the difderence is negligble, then I will buy the more versatile 18 50. Do you have a shot by 16mm amd 18 50 that I can compare to see if the shot at 18 50 is wide enough. Thanks
Very well done video, I went for the 30mm 1.4 and the 2.8 zoom.
Hi, never had a camera before. just bought a used Sony a6600 2 days ago. I also bought a used trio (16,30,56 F1.4). That's said. I glad to know that I could replace these 3 lens for 1 when I travel or something. Thank you for taking the time to do this video. Appreciated.
Thank you for your comment. I would say, that if I had the trio, I wouldn’t necessarily “replace” them with the zoom lens. Unless of course you are selling them to buy something else to further meet your needs. The trio, specifically the 30 & 56 mms, are very good as portrait lenses. If I didn’t need the money from the sale of those lenses for something else, I would keep them as great compliments to the zoom for portrait photography in which the extra bokeh can be utilized by the wider aperture of 1.4.
I have the trio for the MFT mount, and use them on my Oly E-M1 Mark II and Mark III cameras for both photo and video. I also have the Oly 12-40/2.8 lens, and also use it for photo and video.And, I have the Oly/OM 20/1.4 lens, which is my favorite for 'studio' photography (me sitting at a desk and talking to the camera). It's interesting that you like to use 24mm with the Sigma zoom. With APS-C or MFT sensors, you need a larger aperture to diminish the depth of field to where you can blur the background even on close-up shots in small studios. It's about 8' from my body to the back wall of my studio (a window with a blind, over a desk with a monitor and twin lamps with Wiz LED bulbs that I set to a royal blue color). I want to blur the background enough so details on the desk aren't distinguishable for a nice aesthetic. I tried the Oly 12-40/2.8 at around 18mm, wide open, but too much DoF for the studio. I started with the Sigma 16/1.4, a great lens, but just not enough DoF for my studio with the wider field of view, and because my camera is on a tripod across the desk from me, I couldn't move it forward to narrow the field of view. The Oly/OM 20/1.4 is a great lens for my situation... the increased focal length tightens the field of view and combined with the wide aperture blurs the background nicely. I've also used the Sigma 30/1.4, and I have to move the camera back a bit to where I can't close my office/studio door... but it gives a great upper chest and head shot and REALLY compresses the scene, reduces the field of view, and nicely blurs the background. I used the 56/1.4 when I'm in a different room and the camera is further away. I would think that the Sigma 18-50/2.8 would have the same issues as the Oly 12-40/2.8... the wide aperture is not wide enough to blur the background.
In short, the wider f/1.4 aperture lenses (I also have the Oly 75/1.8) REALLY separate the background and isolate the subject in a way you just can't get with the Sigma 18-50/2.8 or the Oly 12-40/2.8.
I was totally going to sell my Rokinon and Pick up this lens (as I love my Sigma 30mm 1.4). I hate collecting lenses and like having a max of 3 lenses at any one time. However Sigma recently released their 18-50mm F2.8 compact zoom which has great quality (maybe 80% of the primes). This makes my choice much easier, keep the 30mm F1.4 since I find it the best versatile walk around/indoor lens, the Rokinon 12mm (maybe swap for Autofocus) for Stars, Landscapes, creatives, and the Sigma for the walk around. Cannot justify the 16mm F 1.4 when I now can have an 18mm F 2.8. If you use your camera for video at night then I can see the advantage of 16mm F1.4 but I am strictly a photographer. Plus if I needed video I'm fine with graining at higher ISO. Thoughts? I'm about to have a baby and am wondering if a fast tele (or even 56mm F1.4) is usefull. I used to use the Sony 18-135mm zoom for travel but never really liked the photos in many of the shots and was forced to really push in lightroom. Sigma always looked good. Any suggestions?
Thank you for the comment…and the questions, Scott! I get it. You don’t want to carry a lot of lenses around with you. I think that your question(s) really are going to rely upon answering a couple other questions. 1. What type of photography are you doing? If it’s gonna be more portrait photography, or something that you need that extra bokeh, you may consider the Sigma 56mm. 2. Are you needing the variable focal lengths of a zoom? If so how long do you want that focal length? 3. The final question that may answer the other two for you…what is your budget?
I look forward to hearing what you’ve chosen.
@@joe-d9427 Ended up selling my Sony 18-135mm to pick up the Sigma 18-50. It's a jack of all trades with very good results. May want to add the 56mm F1.4 later if I need more subject separation for my baby on the way.
This video deserves more views and like. Much work has been put into this video for viewers!
I'm acquiring all 4, with my plan for the 18-50 to be the only lens I fly with. Redundant, yes. But each of the primes have perfect use scenarios, as well as slightly better bokeh. The 16 is great for vlogging. The 30 is the first one I bought and is a popular prime every photographer needs. The 56 is a fantastic portrait lens. With these 4 Sigmas, I might be able to avoid buying a single Fuji lens. These 4 lenses might be all I need for the Fuji S-X20.
Why avoid buying Fuji lenses ?
@@datAero price lol
Thanks for explaining the features of the lens sigma 18 -50 mm and the comparisons made at every level. Thanks once again.
Thank you for the comment! I’m glad that it was a help to you!
Excellent review. Answered all my questions. Thank you.
As for me, I owned sigma trio but sold the whole, plan to buy 56 1.4 again. 30 has bad fringing, 16 I didn’t used because I have 17-70 tamron with OSS, 56 is very good for size and performance. Zoom also has bad colour fringing.
Thank you for your comment. I have seen some fringing with the zoom. However some of that can probably be taken care of with a simple UV filter. I haven’t tried but would be a good test. Cheers!
I don't really leave comment to thank reviewers often.. but this video greatly helped my buying decision, thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to comment! I’m so glad it was a help to you!
Zoom lens is a must have for flexibility. This one is a good choice to have considering the price. This brings me back to the 17-70mm 2.8 sigma I used in my canon 80D before when I was still shooting events and concerts. Zoom lenses really gives you a lot of composition most especially when you have tight environments. Nice video man, love your review!
There is a tamron 17-70 2.8 now. It also comes with IS too.
@@OnlyCitrus Yes, but it's huge, not suited for a casual travel lens
Most detailed and exactly what i needed to watch to make my decision for the lens. Gone for the zoom lens, thank you
I’m glad it was a help to you. Please comment again once you get a chance to use your new lens.
@@joe-d9427 Absolutely! I just ordered one today, it will be delivered to me in 4-5 days
Very excited!
Great comparisons! I brought this zoom with us to our Philippines trip, along with the Viltrox 13/1.4 and Sigma 56/1.4. We're still here, and I have to say that the zoom has stayed on my camera for 3/4 of the time due to its convenience, image quality, and autofocus capabilities.
Same here. It really is the “go to” lens in the bag! Thank you for your comment.
hey thats my plan too. start the system w/ 18-50, then later, i'l add 56 for special portraits w/ creamy bokeh
Fantastic review !!! This the kind of information that we need as non professional users. Congratulations
Thank you for the kind comment!
Fascinating what are useful review does seem of the primes only the 56mm really has the edge on the zoom...
Thank you for the comment. I completely agree!
Thank you for this content I use 95% of the time my a6600 with the sony 35mm f1.8 But I was willing to understand how does the 18-50 f2.8 perform. This was a really well made comparrison, Bravo, Max
Thank you for your kind comment. Much appreciated!
@@joe-d9427 My pleasure, may you suggest me some gimbal for this set? or some ontents about choosing a gimbal? Thanks Again Joe :)
@@MaxPhotoGraphic that is a fantastic question. I don’t have any personal experience with a gimbal for my a6600. However I am looking for one. Here’s a couple of links to articles that will provide some good info for gimbal options in 2022.
www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-phone-and-camera-gimbals
www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/the-best-gimbals-for-your-iphone-gopro-and-camera
After few months of using sigma 18-50 I gone back for sigma trio and sold this tiny cute zoom, on aps-c missed so much faster shutter speed, with F/2.8 on crop u still need fairly good light especially if u got body without IBIS, with F/1.4 you can shoot on almost every light conditions without IBIS. One thing that I miss from sigma 18-50 that would like to have in sigma trio is the speed of autofocus, sigma 18-50 AF speed is so fast & accurate like native lens.
I do understand what you are saying. I have taken care of that by using ND filters. I’m actually using them today while at SeaWorld in the bright sun. Worked like a charm.
Great review, thanks! I'm waiting for the release of the Fuji version. It's a fairly good and most importantly compact lens. I wouldn't necessarily say it's a replacement for the f1.4s since in fact there is no replacement for a fast aperture (bokeh is one thing, but 2 extra stops of light come in very handy in low light conditions as well), however, it is a great general-purpose optic and surely a strong recommendation for a first lens. For me a must-have to complete my compact X-E4 street and travel package.
Thank you for the comment! It really is a great all around lens!
This is the list of what have. Purchased them all back when I first got the camera and never have used. I really want that one that covers it all as I learn the a6000 camera and only wish to purchase one more, either the Tamron or Sigma as you can see I was a very unsupervised impulse shopper.
Camera-Sony-Lens
Kit
Sony Selp1650 f3.5-5.6 oss
Sony 55-210 f4.5-6.3 oss
Sony sel30m35 f3.5 no oss
Sony sel35f18 f1.8. oss
Sony sel50f18 f1.8 oss
Sigma 60mm f2.8
Sony selp18105G f4 oss
As long as you get good use for your purposes, that’s really what matters. Next time…make sure you are “supervised”. Hahahaha.
Can you please make a video on the 18-50mm zoom lens settings, preferably the settings you use. Thanks
Well thought out and thorough video Joe, really enjoyed it. I have all 4 of these and would not sell any now except for maybe the 16mm 1.4 which I think I'd replace with an ultra-wide. Cheers from Winnipeg. - Brett
Cheers Brett from a fellow Canadian. I live in the US but my family is from BC! Thanks for the kind comment! Much appreciated and more to come!
Have just got A 6600 body and plan to buy the 56 to go with sony 15mm 1.4 and 35 1.8 oss
Buy them all. No decision required.
If budget permits, 16mm & 56mm and the zoom for everything in between. Best of both worlds. I didn't bother with the 30mm
That’s pretty much how I am approaching it. Thank you for the comment!
I have the sigma trio and I am planning to sell the 30mm to buy the sigma zoom, your answer seems to support this decision, I hope I don't regret it.
Hi Joe, this is the most helpful video on these lenses, especially the studio example.
I am a Reviewer and use studio for 99% of my videos. I am using sigma 30mm for my A-rolls and kit 16-55mm for B-rolls since last 2 years and as you mentioned in the video, the distance adjustment and convenience is quite a issue.
Now I am looking to replace both the sigma 30mm and kit 16-55mm with this new lens and would like your opinion on it.
Thanks.
Hello Sameer. Thank you for your comment, and question. You do lose an interesting question. Of the three lenses in the Sigma trio, the easiest to replace with the zoom lens is the 30mm. Relative to the kit lens that brings about a couple of other considerations. While, in my opinion, the Sigma 18-50 Zoom lens is far better in quality, the kit lens does give you the added focal length. For me it’s an easy choice. From what you’ve described…it doesn’t necessarily seem like you need, or want, the added focal length. Again, to me, it seems like an easy win for the Sigma Zoom.
@@joe-d9427 yup, totally agree with you.
Thanks for the prompt response 👍
Very nice video, thanks for sharing all the useful info 👍
Thank you for your kind comment!
Thanks for your review! I own the (newer) Sigma 23mm 1.4 (which is definitely better than 30mm) as well as the 56mm. And still I was thinking about the zoom ... but considering your results, I will probably keep my prime lenses.
I have the sigma 18-50, the 23 f1.4 and the 56 f1.4. Although at first I found myself comfortable using the zoom, now when I go out I take the 23 and the 56 with me. The difference in the bokeh and the low light capabilities make me prefer them to the zoom. I mainly shoot videos. The zoom is comfortable and versatile but if you have 2 prime lenses like the 23 and the 56 which are also small and light then it takes 2 seconds to change them. The zoom is now at home gathering dust.
@@guidoambrosi4413 Thanks for your feedback! This is exactly what I was assuming.
Thanks for the comparisons!
Thank you for watching! I’m glad you liked it!
I'm thinking to buy Sigma for Fuji.
So far, with my experiences with the Sigma lenses, I am very happy. They really do make a great product for a great value.
you deserved a million subscribers
Thank you for that comment! It is much appreciated!
Currently own the Sigma 18-50 .. Thinking if I should get the Sigma primes. I already have one prime 56mm but from Viltrox.
The way you explain is very clear.ur my camera guru!
Haha. Thank you for that kind comment!
Funny, you could actually get the 16mm and the 18-50 for less $ than the Sony 16-55. If those last 2mm are really as important as people say, the 16mm would get plenty of use. For me, I just see these as one big happy family, and I'll buy them all piece by piece.
Thank you very much, It has helped a Lot with the struggle .. im a Prime Lens User and was not Sure to go for the 30 mm or just Take the 18-50 to Match my 56mm
What did you end up doing? I am in the same confusion. 30mm or sigma zoom?
Thanks. Great review of Sigma's offerings for the Sony APSC filmmaker.😎😎
Thank you! Very very informative, I think there’s something to be said by having multiple camera bodies on you if you want to use multiple prime lenses and obviously that’s expensive… so if you stick to aps-c the weight works out about the same using some very compact system cameras that have optical image stabilisation or ibis with a much more compact zoom - I’d only get the 56mm sigma and then a secondary canon compact camera - if I had a kid or no time I would be able to use both!
Really helpful video, you deserve a comment for the algorithm :D
Thank you so much. That is a very kind statement!
This through review earned an instant follow!...oh, not sure if I missed it, but which body did you use for the photo examples at the end?
I use the Sony a6600. Thank you for the kind compliment and the “follow”!
@@joe-d9427 ah cool, same here. This confirmed purchasing that zoom. To go with my Sony 70-350 for travel
@@bryanevans5398 haha. I’ll actually be doing a review of the Sony 70-50 soon. I bought it and love it. I just used both of these lenses today for some nature and sunset shots.
@@joe-d9427 100% the 70-350 is insanely sharp and I use it a ton. I was in the Philippines recently and loved it but carrying around primes when travelling light wasn't optimal, ergo the 18-50.
@@bryanevans5398 yep. I rarely use my primes, and I love my 85mm Viltrox.
Excellent video. Could you put metric measurements on the screen please. I cannot remember the old measurements
The 18-50 is so sharp !! What a great lens. Too bad it is a bit short. I wish Sigma made a 18-70
That is the only reason I didnt already sold Sony 18-135 and bought this Sigma. For now fast 16 F1.4 is enough for me.
There is Tamron version already
Such a great video! 🙌🏽
Thank you! I appreciate your kindness.
You do not need to say ‘constant aperture’ for prime lenses, as their focal lengths does not change. You can instead say ‘maximum aperture’ or ‘widest aperture’.
Thank you for your comment.
Great review and recommendation. I use the Sigma 16 mm for outdoors travel and the Sigma 56 mm when I know I will primarily shooting people outdoors. I received the Sigma 18-50 for Christmas and took it to Vegas. This lens was on my camera 95% of the time. Great shots on the strip and at the Grand Canyons.
Awesome! It just works for the need! Thank you for commenting.
Great review, thanks
Can’t wait for this to hit the Fuji X mount at the end of the year.
Hi, very useful comparison, I think I'm planning on getting the 18-50 for automotive and street photography , what do you think about this?
Thanks for the comment! I think that the Sigma Zoom will serve that need nicely, giving you multiple options for focal length. As well, the 2.8 aperture can serve that type of photography well because you want more of the car in focus but still get a nice bokeh background. Happy shooting! I love car photos!
@@joe-d9427 Oh thank you very much for you fast reply, I didn't think about what you said for the aperture and thats a really good point, one thing I also realized recently that I didn't know would be useful is that the lens doesn't rotate the filter so its great for a CPL, choosing a lens is hard when you start so thanks for your advice I think this one is the one I need!
Thanks, I did buy for your explanation. I have ask for Tamron 70-180, what do you think? Do you have some video about?
Thank you for your comment. I don’t have the Tamron 70-180. I do have the Sony 70-350 and will be doing a review on it soon.
Hi, Joe. Are you going to keep the trio and 18-50mm zoom? I now have 16mm and 30mm for my a6500. I am considering to sell them and get a 18-50mm since I do not like bringing 2 or 3 lens when I go out for a trip. I want to ask, which lens do you often use when you have the trio prime lens and the zoom? Due to your experience, Could you give a percentage of time that you use each of them. for example 85% for zoom, and 5% for each of the trio. Thanks
That’s a good question. I use the zoom lens the vast majority of the time. The 16mm is my lens for streaming and UA-cam recording. As for the other primes in the trio, I would use those for portrait photography because of the wider aperture. The zoom is what I use when I go out and about. The convenience for photos and video is just excellent!
@@joe-d9427 Thank you Joe. I have just placed an order for the 18-50mm and sold my sigma 30mm. I am wondering what ultra wide lens do you prefer?
Who says you can't vlog with 56mm. It looked so good on your vlog :D. Hahahah. I think it was nice, like talking very close, and funny!
great video! if i buy lens 18-50mm do i need buy extral 56mm 30mm sigmal
Thank you for the comment! To answer your question it really depends on what you plan to do with your camera. You have to ask yourself the questions…How much does the extra bokeh make a difference to what you are doing? How much does the extra focal length of the 56mm make a difference for you? How much difference does the convenience of carrying one lens versus multiple lenses make to you? Once you can answer those questions you will have the direction you need to take. Also consider the fact that if you don’t really need those prime lenses because of what you are doing with your camera, you can use that money to put toward other lenses or equipment.
Hi Joe, thanks for the video, new subscriber. I focus pretty much 100% on photography. I'm interested in a lean gear bag. I have the 16mm Sigma and it's fantastic. I'll add the 18-50 as my everyday walk around lens. what do you recommend for a telephoto to give me the reach for times when you can't get close? I'm looking to add just one more lens to to my bag. thanks.
That’s a great question. It would all depend on your budget. There are some fantastic lenses when you are able to spend over $1000. For my budget for now. I use the Sony 55-200 kit lens. It’s better than many people give it credit for. Has OSS but not a constant aperture. I have taken some great photos with it and will be doing a video about it soon.
Thank you for your comment/question!
Thank you so much for the video it helped me to choose my first lens as a beginner. If you can for the future when putting photos samples it would be nice to know at what f stop, shutter speed and iso you used because it will help me understand more on how to use the lens correctly. Thank you again, God bless you 🙏 I will be going with the zoom first then the trio later.
Thank you for the comment and suggestion. I will definitely take your suggestion! Blessings to you as well!
Is this an APSC Camera or Full frame camera ?
Great helpful video. Thank you. I just subscribed. I've been researching the Sigma 18-50, comparing it with Tamron 17-70. That's probably another video but still, your video was very helpful as another option for me was the Sigma Trio.
I'm new to photography. I have the a6400 body, Sony 18-135 lens, and Sony 1.8 50mm lens. Bought it all a few years ago and now looking to upgrade/add. I like night time and sports photography. I don't do much video. Really still exploring. I think - My goal over time is to own the Tamron 11-20, Sigma 18-50 and Sony 70-350.
I'm glad these great options exist and Joe, am really thankful for the work you put into this. It is a huge help to people like me. Really well done and understandable. Thanks!
Thank you for the comment and the kind compliments. I’m glad it was a help to you. There is more to come.
New subscriber really liked your video. Covering it well and giving some great insight. I am torn between the Sigma 18-50 and Tamron 17-70 as my daily go to on my a6000. They both have a strong draw in their on way, stabilization, size, weight, weather proofing, price point, with similar end result. Don’t know yet which way to turn.
Thank you for the kind comment. That’s a tough call. One consideration to think about is whether you need the extra focal length of the Tamron. If not can you use the money you save to purchase another lens or piece of equipment that can help you in other ways?
@@joe-d9427 I agree with your line of thinking! The price difference between the two would let you buy a nice gimbal, too, which would grant stabilization for all your lenses and not just the Tamron!
If you do a lot of video, the optical stabilization of the Tamron is excellent. The only downside of the Tamron is that it is not as compact as the Sigma. If the camera has IBIS or not may be a deciding factor. I got both the Tamron and recently added the Sigma for a more compact kit.
Nice review! If a regular Sigma can be great, then imagine what Sigma Art series might be capable of, especially a high end prime!
Thank you for your comment! Agreed…I look forward to being able to review an art lens.
I think you missed focus with the 16mm during the comparison at 15:30.
Actually let me correct that, you definitely have inconsistent focus with your shots on both lenses. Anybody looking at getting the 16mm, don't worry it doesn't actually perform that poorly at f4. Anybody looking at getting the 18-50mm, don't worry it doesn't actually perform that poorly at f8.
This was very helpful!!! thanks
I’m glad it was a value to you. Thank you! Happy new year!
I would like to purchase a zoom lens in the range 70 - 210 mm . I want your suggestions for the long range zoom lenses.
This lens will only have a bokeh equivalence of an f4.2 on full frame. The trio gets you closer to the bokeh equivalence of f2 on full frame
Thank you for commenting. You are correct in that there are trade offs if you are using this lens on a full frame. This could still be a good option for an all around option when you go for a hike or stroll around town. But if you've got a full frame camera, you definitely need to take these things into consideration.
Good job Joe. I’m debating between the 16mm and 30mm prime lenses for studio talking head work. I know a lot of people use the 16mm but I was thinking the 30mm could be a possibility??? What’s your thoughts?
Thanks for commenting. What a great question! I still primarily use my 16mm lens for my videos in studio. However, I know that I can use the zoom lens anytime as a good substitute. It would give you a good range of options for your talking head videos, giving you variety. And you can get more out of it if you decided to go out and do some b-roll shooting and photography. I love flexibility and options.
Nice video very accurate video... very helpful... thanks 🙏
Please sir,
A video on the performance of Tamron 17-70mm 2.8 Sony lenses would be very helpful 🙏...It would be great for me if you could provide this video...thanks 🙏
Canon M mount please.
Would be nice if they added this to the Canon line. Thanks for commenting.
I own the trio. It seems like I almost never have the right lens on the camera for the conditions. Especially family. I’m always asking people to hold while I grab another lens. The zoom is very tempting. Also Tamron’s 17-70 with stabilization is another option though much bigger and more costly.
I know the feeling. I can tell you that it really is a fantastic lens, for the convenience and cost.
Thank you for your comment!
@@joe-d9427 I went, I saw, I liked, I bought…this lens is now my smallest and most versatile in the collection. It’s just fun to grab and go. I may liquidate some lesser used ones.
Nice video, please advice me that should i upgrade from sigma 16mm to sigma 18-50mm
Thank you for your kind comment! As for upgrading…I would say it depends on what you are doing/what your needs are. As I mentioned in the video, I use my Sigma 16mm as my main lens for recording in the studio. The 18-50 Zoom is what I take when I go out to shoot in public. The other consideration is…do you need to sell the 16mm to be able to buy the zoom lens? If not, I would consider keeping the 16mm and simply adding the zoom lens to your bag. I hope that helps.
@@joe-d9427 I shall sell the 16mm to purchase 18 50, i shoot bideos for youtube indoor and outdoor, i have also kit lense with my ZV E10
it’s a hard no from me as far as the 18-50. Doesn’t matter how sharp or convenient it is, it’s still a 2.8 against 1.4. Also the difference between 16 and 18mm is more than most people realise. If you don’t need to shoot in low light and 18mm is wide enough, then the 18-50 is alright but it’ll never compare to prime lenses.
i donno, i'm considering it for travel. my back s been showing its age and i'm looking to lighten my load
@@pizza.doctoryeah, its about many factors, not just about spesification. Great
Ultimate 3 lens travelling setup, 18-50, one 1.4 of your preference and another one lens for speciality, either ultra wide like 12mm samyang AF (16mm is too close to 18mm) or the telephoto 70-350
16, 18-50, 56 is just lazy and limiting the perspective you can shoot in one location
Thank you for your comment. Yes, depending on what you are wanting access to, it can be limiting if you only have those three lenses. But it just depends on what you want to do. If you’re wanting access, at all times, to take the widest array of photos at varying focal lengths, I would agree that having a telephoto would be great to have access to in your bag.
Thanks again
I shoot a lot at night and the 1.4 is great for that up to 2.8 on the trio
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
Does the zoom lens need an adapter for the canon m50?
Very nice explanation
I have Sony ZV-E10 with Kit Lens, Planning to upgrade
Completely confused if I need to go for Sigma 30mm 1.4 vs Sigma 18-50mm 2.8
Only worry is if Zoom lens can beat the sharpness and low light performance of Sigma 30mm prime lens
Any thoughts ??
Which one did you end up buying?
@@arunmanojsenthilkumar4389 Sigma 18-50mm 2.8
@@ujitendra is it good or you recommend any other lens?
it depends on your purpose, where you shoot. if it is indoor zoom lens better. For outdoor, you pick any prime lens from the sigma trio@@arunmanojsenthilkumar4389
Great video!! Many thaks -I was not sure wheater buy a trio od 18-50....now, I am....🙂
Thank you. I know you’ll enjoy it!!
You made my day. Thanks. There is so much confusion for beginners like me regarding which lens to choose.
I've watched tons of vids and this is by far the best, im in between the 56mm or the 18-50, i own a sony a6400 +Sigma 16, but i want to do some portraits and night photography (clubs and maybe some streets) how would the 18-50 be for low light scenarios? Seeing as the 18-50 is more versatile im leaning towards it but the 56 bokeh is tempting (and budget friendly atm of my finances xD), thanks for your video you got a new sub, keep up the good work ✌️kind regards from chile.
Thank you for your kind comment!
As for using this lens for low light photography…I use it frequently for night photography. I have loved my pics with this lens for night photos.
I understand the desire for the bokeh! If you were using it for portraits as your main purpose for the lens, then I would say the 56mm would be the right lens. But the zoom lens is the better option for all around photography.
Thank You - so nice comparison
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad you liked it!
Great review! I am really surprised at how well the zoom compared to the primes in terms of image quality. I have the Sigma 30 f/1.4 for my Canon EOS M50 and I love it, but that system is sorely missing a decent standard zoom option. It looks like the end of the line for EOS M, so I'm thinking of switching. I will probably switch to Fuji next year when this lens becomes available for it and get it along with a couple primes. X-S10 has IBIS at a $1000 price point, which you can't find anywhere else.
Thank you for your comment! Ya, a good standard zoom lens is essential to have, especially for just walking around! Thanks again.
I own the sigma trio for EF-M mount M50. I have a problem with the 30mm. The further the subject is away from the lens, the more it back focuses. rendering it useless for anything but close up portraits. I bought the dock ud-11 dock recently thinking id be able to adjust this via custimizarion in Sigma Optimisation Pro software (because thats how it was marketed) but turns the option is not available for any lens in the trio. you can only update the firmware (which does not resolve the issue). its really frustrating and disappointing.
That said the 30mm is the cheapest of the trio, but it’s also a really critical focal range for me and really expensive to replace. The canon 32mm is a much better lens but almost twice the price. This issue has me reconsidering the M50 all together because I’m not sure I want to dump any more money into it. Curious if anyone else has encounter an issue like this or has experience with Sigma support.
Thank you for commenting. I will say, that I am seeing more people discontented with the Canon offerings as of late. There is a definite shift to Sony photography products. They are really listening to their customers.
Just what I looking for
Thank you. I’m glad it could be a help to you!
Thanks for the video!
Gonna sell my 30, ignore the 16, and jump from the 56 to an 85, so I’ll just pick this up as my street lens. Thank you!
what camera did you use for trying this lens?
Thank you for your question. I use the Sony a6600. It has the in body stabilization which is nice when using these Sigma lenses that don’t have OSS.
@@joe-d9427 thank you, that made sense.
thefact that there is no aperture ring does it sound ok ?
Great job there! Got allready 16mm Sigma. So this will be best upgrade for next lens for ZV-E10 or should i go for another one? Best recommendations for that? Doing vids in home and some randon B-rolls in outside :)
Thanks for commenting. What a great question! I use my zoom lens everywhere. While I still primarily use my 16mm lens for my videos in studio, I know that I can use the zoom lens anytime as a good substitute. That being said...my zoom lens is the one I take everywhere. My 16mm stays home most of the time. This is a fantastic option for the Sony ZV-E10!
@@joe-d9427 Yep, perhaps is add this to my collection at some point. In most of cases i am so lazy to do b-rolls with ZV, so i prefer use my phone for it; iphone 13mini and new phone is coming - fenfone 9.
People! Give this man a sub!
Thank you so much for the kind comment. I’m glad you liked the video!