What was fuel economy during the drive? I’ve heard the Ford Powerboost isn’t any more efficient than the normal Ecoboost so curious if Toyota was the same or potentially different.
I think it hovered in the 10.5-11 MPG range. Pretty typical for a gas-powered half-ton with this trailer behind it. The hybrid system here, much like the PowerBoost on F-150, isn't being used while towing to increase MPG... moreso to fill in gaps in torque and potential turbo lag. City driving unloaded is where you'll see the most gains and a smaller improvement at highway speed.
@@OutMotorsports thanks. It's not terrible for a gas half ton. Now Toyota just needs to get their act together about the onboard power in this thing and give it what the Powerboost has (either 2.4kw or 7.2kw for tools, camping, entertainment etc).
I drive a BASE SR Tundra, its so basic, its collecting welfare cheques lol I should look up my stats to see how a base model is configured, It's a work truck spec, so it has the de-tuned engine and smaller fuel tank (range sucks) mine is used for light work so it serves the purpose, I am in the process of building a entry level rig for a bit of light off roading! Great Review as always!
I increasingly like base model trucks (currently own an XL F-150), given how content laden they have become versus trucks of the past. 350hp and 400lbft is plenty for almost half ton uses in my mind. I’m not sure if the internals are different but lower boost may mean it’ll have a bit better longevity to boot.
Measured at about 680 lbs. Just subtract that from the listed payload on the doorjamb sticker (forgive me, I don't remember what it was) and there ya go.
I am very suspicious about the real world payload and tow ratings on these new Toyota Hybrid drivetrains. As the battery is depleted are the ratings less achievable? The Ford Ranger XLT with the 2.3 turbo engine and 10 speed automatic can tow 7500 pounds in 4WD configuration and has a payload of 1711 pounds. Ford offers and optional 2.7l TT V6 and I look forward seeing how it compares to the new Tundra drivetrain.
Someone brought this up at the track, too, and it's a good callout. In theory, yes, you can eventually deplete the hybrid battery entirely if you've got your foot buried in the throttle up a very long and steep grade. In reality, over ~1k miles towing with two of these hybrid Tundras, I haven't seen the battery SoC dip below an indicated 25%. Toyota uses the hybrid system here to fill in gaps of torque and potential turbo lag, so while the electric motor can/does output a big chunk of torque, the drivetrain is still relying primarily on the twin turbochargers and not the electric motor for assistance.
@@OutMotorsports Thank you... I ask this because your same logic applies to the drivetrains in the new Land Cruiser, Tacoma and 4Runner and I suspect under load this will be a greater concern with these 4-cylinder engines. I want to tow and the 4 cylinder hybrid is not giving me the assurance I need.
@@chrispnw2547 I think it’s a non-issue. Having spent time in a few hybrids, the ICE will replenish the battery as needed and if you’re not using all of the ICEs output, it’ll use what’s in reserve to keep the battery at a certain level. Like mentioned the system is not designed for constant output but rather supplement to help in certain conditions so the ICE is still the primary factor when these powertrains are rated. One of the rating tests is a simulation of the Davis Dam grade which is over 10 miles of steep grade. No hybrid battery is able to sustain output through that whole run, so the vehicle is rated for meeting that criteria even with a battery that isn’t necessarily helping for much of the time.
I have the same truck & love it! I do wish the mirrors extended further to see around my 24" enclosed trailer.
What was fuel economy during the drive? I’ve heard the Ford Powerboost isn’t any more efficient than the normal Ecoboost so curious if Toyota was the same or potentially different.
I think it hovered in the 10.5-11 MPG range. Pretty typical for a gas-powered half-ton with this trailer behind it. The hybrid system here, much like the PowerBoost on F-150, isn't being used while towing to increase MPG... moreso to fill in gaps in torque and potential turbo lag. City driving unloaded is where you'll see the most gains and a smaller improvement at highway speed.
@@OutMotorsports thanks. It's not terrible for a gas half ton. Now Toyota just needs to get their act together about the onboard power in this thing and give it what the Powerboost has (either 2.4kw or 7.2kw for tools, camping, entertainment etc).
I would have thought that the 1794 long bef wiuld have towed better. What your yhougts in having a longer wheelbase fir heavier towing?
I wish my platinum’23 had the air ride suspension
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I drive a BASE SR Tundra, its so basic, its collecting welfare cheques lol I should look up my stats to see how a base model is configured, It's a work truck spec, so it has the de-tuned engine and smaller fuel tank (range sucks) mine is used for light work so it serves the purpose, I am in the process of building a entry level rig for a bit of light off roading! Great Review as always!
I increasingly like base model trucks (currently own an XL F-150), given how content laden they have become versus trucks of the past. 350hp and 400lbft is plenty for almost half ton uses in my mind. I’m not sure if the internals are different but lower boost may mean it’ll have a bit better longevity to boot.
@@ALMX5DP I agree, in retro spec, I should have gone with a XL F150 with the 3.3L V6
What was your tongue weight and how did that affect payload capacity?
Measured at about 680 lbs. Just subtract that from the listed payload on the doorjamb sticker (forgive me, I don't remember what it was) and there ya go.
I am very suspicious about the real world payload and tow ratings on these new Toyota Hybrid drivetrains. As the battery is depleted are the ratings less achievable? The Ford Ranger XLT with the 2.3 turbo engine and 10 speed automatic can tow 7500 pounds in 4WD configuration and has a payload of 1711 pounds. Ford offers and optional 2.7l TT V6 and I look forward seeing how it compares to the new Tundra drivetrain.
Someone brought this up at the track, too, and it's a good callout. In theory, yes, you can eventually deplete the hybrid battery entirely if you've got your foot buried in the throttle up a very long and steep grade. In reality, over ~1k miles towing with two of these hybrid Tundras, I haven't seen the battery SoC dip below an indicated 25%. Toyota uses the hybrid system here to fill in gaps of torque and potential turbo lag, so while the electric motor can/does output a big chunk of torque, the drivetrain is still relying primarily on the twin turbochargers and not the electric motor for assistance.
@@OutMotorsports Thank you... I ask this because your same logic applies to the drivetrains in the new Land Cruiser, Tacoma and 4Runner and I suspect under load this will be a greater concern with these 4-cylinder engines. I want to tow and the 4 cylinder hybrid is not giving me the assurance I need.
@@chrispnw2547 I think it’s a non-issue. Having spent time in a few hybrids, the ICE will replenish the battery as needed and if you’re not using all of the ICEs output, it’ll use what’s in reserve to keep the battery at a certain level. Like mentioned the system is not designed for constant output but rather supplement to help in certain conditions so the ICE is still the primary factor when these powertrains are rated. One of the rating tests is a simulation of the Davis Dam grade which is over 10 miles of steep grade. No hybrid battery is able to sustain output through that whole run, so the vehicle is rated for meeting that criteria even with a battery that isn’t necessarily helping for much of the time.