Many of you have recommended the Logitech G600, I looked at it, but the specs were kinda ehhhhh. But hey I love a good recommendation, so I just ordered it. Will update my thought after some time in the comment. Thanks again! ❤️
It's a great mouse for me ergonomically and I mained it for years playing WoW, but the laser sensor compared to modern mice is so bad that I just can't deal with it, even though the rest of the mouse is so good. Also developed double clicks after 2 years on my LMB. Had to strip away the braiding on the cord since it was so heavy with it and it started fraying.
If we are talking about MMO, RTS, MOBA... The sensor is just fine, tbh any modern sensor is a gimmick for those type of games. Pretty sure if we could put different sensors in the same housing and play any of those type of games... It'd be a coin toss if anyone can guess correctly.
The EVGA mouse is a very interesting and unique one, very cool! But, I'm still rockin' the Logitech 604 and still really enjoying it. Glad you picked it up and are able to experience it!
@@yunloy tbh it’s not just fine. I notice it immediately in Windows, before even entering a game. To me personally there’s no comparison. That sensor just feels slow and laggy comparatively. Now if you’ve never had anything else to compare it to then sure, it can work and one might not notice. To me even for productivity it feels like I’m moving a slow and heavy ball compared to say the Corsair scimitar. Aside from the g600 I personally own the, scimitar, xm1 and viper and any of those sensors are a night and day difference in responsiveness.
I kind of want to know more about the build quality and how long it’ll last, or if the products have a tendency to fail in certain mechanical aspects over time. The look of the mice don’t really matter too much to me.
I have the G602 the previous model of the G604. I bought the mouse 7 Years ago and it still works well enough. it has a few battle scars by now but it still functions like on Day 1
I have the Naga Pro for my Final Fantasy 14 days, it was a great mouse for that game and I played it for over 2000 hours. It does not get use for gaming anymore since I've been using lighter mice but I still use it as a productivity mouse by programming various macros, text box etc. to the buttons. Your point on the heaviness rings true to me since it gets heavier by the hour. Great video as always!
as someone whos used the Corsair Scimitar for over a year. It's a great mouse outside of one thing if you have some heavy fingers you'll eventually end up with double clicks and non responsive clicks due to the plastic right over the switch being fairly soft. you can always open it up and "repair" it with some tape to fill in the dents that create the issue.
I also had it and it is a mouse that does not withstand the passage of time well, apart from the problem that you mention, the side buttons become hyper sensitive and are activated even if you did not want to do so.
I've had 5 Corsair mice in the last 6-7 years. They ALL BROKE. Wheel, unresponsive/double clicks, every time. On the darkstar it literally became unresponsive and disconnected itself, which many others reported too
The G604 definitely looks the most practical regarding balance of button quantity and placement. Before I pull the trigger, I need to take my small girly hands to Best Buy for a test drive though. I'm a die hard Mamba Elite fan addicted to the size, rgb, and tilt scroll, so I'm going to be a hard sell to part ways with the old girl. Appreciate you sharing this info! ♥
I have been using G604 for ARPGs and I have to agree with you the slimmer sides is more comfortable. Also a decent productivity mouse. You can even lower the weight down using the triple AAA battery mod.
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
I've used an MMO mouse since 2011, I think. The original razer naga. It lasted about 5 years if I remember, until the left click went out. Then I found the corsair scimitar. It lasted a couple of years until the mouse wheel stopped working. Replaced with the Scimitar Pro and still using it. I also got my brother a scimitar pro a couple of years ago, and his mouse wheel stopped clicking. I'm still using my latest Scimiar Pro, but it could bite the dust any day, they tend to only last around 2 years, and the left click doesn't feel very clicky like it used it. I've also noticed it seems like the mouse wants to drag when I click so sometimes if I move my mouse away too fast from what I thought I had just clicked on, it doesn't register that I clicked it, if that makes sense. So I just bought the G604 after having it on my watchlist for a year. It was on a big sale for $45 recently. Unfortuntaely, the bad things pointed out using the G502, applies to how I feel using the G604. After so many years of having a comfy ring finger rest, the G604 feels bad having my ring finger sitting on top of my pinky finger. The worst is playing Back4Blood when I need to pickup the mouse to aim, the side of my pinky bone is jamming into the pointy curvature angle on the side. I played Back4Blood for a couple of hours last night and my hand started getting fatigued on the right side with the ring finger and pinky situation. The extreme weight of the G604 definitely does not help things lol. I've had a G600 for a while as a backup mouse that I've never had to use, but I'm considering sending the G604 back if I can't get used to it, and just using the very popular and chunky G600. It also has the 3rd finger button like the EVGA mouse you like so much. As of right now, early impressions of the G604, I'm missing that 3rd finger resting area a lot. SIDE NOTE: I ordered a Razer Naga Trinity in 2019, thinking I've found the mouse I'll be in love with for years to come. It was double clicking right out of the box. And you could literally cause a left click to register without full releasing the button. I wanted to give Razer another shot after my first Scimitar bit the dust, but they failed as soon as I plugged it in haha. Certaintly not made like they used to be.
Using the 604 right now. I got this mouse shortly after release in 2019 and still use it daily for productivity. The weight was the only issue for me and I did some mods to lighten the mouse. I replaced the solid metal scroll wheel with G502's skeleton style and use a AAA to AA adapter. Opening up the mouse can be a headache but it is def worth it. There are tutorials online to help. This mouse is over engineered internally. I hope revisions are made for a future release
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
@@1.m.r00t No double click issues. One thing that does happen eventually is that the rubber material in the thumb rest starts splitting from the plastic base of the mouse. Does not effect functionality.
I tested the new nagas, 3 in 1 nagas and so on... I still think the Hex V2 is superior in stock. Better clicks, form that lets me drag it around and not worry, and if you mod it with custom switched and a hyper paracord, oh boi, maybe add some ceramic feet while you at it!
The Hex V2 is still my favorite mouse to this day. And yes, I agree. It was superior quality. Also, and the main issue for me as they moved to the Naga pro is the button layout. The Hex has 7 buttons and they were in a circle (somewhat like the EVGA X15 reviewed here) that design was awesome and I don't know why they replaced it with the 6 button layout. I wish the next Naga would come with a side panel with 7 buttons and in a circular pattern again.
I am currently using the Razer naga X and I’m really enjoying it. I love That They removed the side clicks on the scroll wheel which made it feel awful. The New one is perfect for scrolling and has a really satisfying click. I use 123 as shift, ctrl and alt. The others I use for convenience like map, character panel, inventory. I Also use a Couple as media keys since I use the miya pro:)
Logitech g600 is still my favorite mouse. It has the ring finger button as well which is great to assign as a shift in WoW to the next row up on skills. I have 3 currently in use (home PC, work PC, work laptop) and have a spare in my closet just in case.
I wish I would have seen the Logitech G600 in this lineup. If you think the EVGA fits like a glove I think the G600 will surprise you. Probably the most comfortable mouse I've ever used.
Logitech G600 has the best aspects of all these mice in one package, and probably for a lower price than most if not all of these others. The third button on the top can be used as a modifier key or as it's "G-Shift" function that adds a 2nd programmable function for all other buttons, equating to 40 custom buttons. With the G Hub software I've set up separate profiles for every game I play including macros such as an auto-run toggle for any game. I even have a profile just for desktop use outside of gaming to control volume, audio output, copy/paste, alt+tab, etc. Best mouse and most customizable hardware gadget I've ever used.
I have the same and tried to upgrade to the G604 because it was wireless. Short story the build on the G604 is not great and I have had to replace 3 of them always going back to my g600 as back up. The G604 is great for a few months and I want to love it but breaking after 6 months sucks.
I genuinely think that if Corsair improves on their Darkstar Moba/MMO mouse design, it can land #1 in the future. It's got a wicked build/shape, an excellent premise and lots of useful features - i.e. the tilt function is useful for mounting up or activating autorun. So much potential.
My sister is using Naga X for WoW and New World. I think its a great mouse. I like the weight, shape not so much. Managed to get Logitech G604 for a friend at price of 55$. Awesome mouse. I could feel the weight since I'm using Orochi V2 but the shape and placement of thumb buttons totally won me over. It would be a tough pick for me betwen Naga X and G604 but at the end I would go with G604.
I came here looking to replace the G604 which I loved when it first came out, but as a gamer I can no longer recommend it because of poor build quality. Out of the box the middle scroll wheel is very cluncky and many times does not register when you push it down. I use it for grenades in COD and after a short time a week or so it broke. I did get a free replacement but the scroll wheel on every version I have is so inconsistent I can't use it for any game. Shortly after that one of the side buttons broke completely off, again was replaced. I bought a third one while waiting for the replacement and just over a year later the same thing the side buttons break because underneath is a small plastic membrane that will stop working or break off after time. I am now on my 4th mouse in 2 years and the side buttons have almost stopped working again. I play alot of warzone and fortnite and it sucks getting familiar with a mouse only to have to keep replacing it. I'm thinking of giving the EVGA a try that you reviewed. :) On a side note I still have my original g600 that is going strong after years.
Im fine with my Viper Ultimate in New World. A game like WoW where you have 15 different abilities to use I can definitely see the use. But New World you only have 3 abilities and 1-6 for my consumables. These MMO mice are just too heavy for me. Great vid Tech!
I've used my GPW for over 2 years playing ESO and now New World with my new Superlight. The only time I would consider getting an MMO mouse would be for like WoW or FF14 because holy abilities. I think I'd opt for the Naga though, and probably the wireless version.
I have a Razer Naga Pro. I bought it in January of 2021. I like to use the 12 side button attachment for MMO's like WoW, and I use the 2 side button attachment for New World, FPS games, and general internet browsing. After only like 6 months of use the 2 side button plate started to have a poor connection to the body. The buttons just simply will not register until I take the side off and put it back on. I think it is a great idea for a product, but VERY poorly executed. I am looking to replace it with a Model O wireless since I love my Zowie FK1, but I want a wireless mouse.
Hello! Greetings from Indonesia (you may know Indonesia from Bali, hehe). Anyway, I just purchased G604 Lightspeed for my Macbook Pro M1. I initially planned to get one of the Razer mice. However, Razer Synapse 3 doesn't support Macbook. I also don't familiar with Corsair or Steelseries mice. So, after looking at many reviews online for G502 Lightspeed, G604 Lightspeed, G903, MX Master 3S, and more, I decided to purchase G604. I used G502 Wired back when it came with braided cable (so, a long time ago) until it started to double click, and I purchased another one again. I have to say, G502 and G604 are for a different target audiences. G502 is for FPS, while G604 is for MMO/MOBA. G502 Lightspeed is also 45% pricier than G604 Lightspeed. I also use G604 for my work (aside from my Logitech Pebble), so the no RGB helps because it still looks appropriate in a professional environment. Thank you for the review. It was really great. My suggestion is when you compare things, please put all the mice in one frame and a comparison table to recap. If you see the comment, I wanna ask something before purchasing it. Is Logitech G240 work nicely with G604?
Hi! :) Got a quick question: is the EVGA mouse software capable of switching profiles depending on which application is in the foreground? Like a different profile for Resolve and let's say Chrome?
Definitely a great review, pinpointed what all mouse users having. I have a large hand and most mouse are just too small for me and giving me that sore muscle you exactly talked about, it's almost like my little finger is going to cramp.
I’ve come to realize after having a basilisk ultimate that g502 shape is not as ergonomic as it seems. The thumb rest is really not that necessary when it comes to ergonomics since its the strongest finger. Better comfort on ring and pinky finger is where it really comes out to me
Great video. I just replaced my beloved 6 year old G502 Proteus Core (all weights in) with the G604 since the weights and shapes are similar so it was an easy transition. I almost went with the EVGA x15 on sale for $30 currently but stuck with Logitech.... again. I dont understand the fuss with these low-weight mice; they feel less precise and less durable for gaming. I had a G302 (broke after 2 years), and currently use a Sensei Raw and G305 for productivity/work.
8:14 This was exactly the info I was looking for in a review. I have the Razor Naga, and the buttons are too far back, hitting 10 11 12 is impossible for me. Thanks so much for the great review
As a New World player, a Naga Trinity (and G600) owner and an MMO veteran, I found no reason to use the 12 button layout. Unlike other MMOs, New World has a limited 3 skill slots bar, and I don't see the point in having 12 buttons on my mouse for this game. Currently I am playing with the 2 button side, one button for weapon switch and one for a skill bar ability. I also configured the wheel left/right to sheathe and dodge. Feel free to comment if you disagree and share your usage of the 12/6 buttons sides. (:
I lost functionality of my left hand in car so additional buttons on my mouse help a lot. For my birthday I was given a Naga and with the 12 button setup I had similar gripes; no textured buttons to tell my buttons apart and nowhere to rest my thumb to grab the mouse and reset it. The heavier ones like the G502 and the X15 don't feel as heavy because of the thumbrest.
I use the Logitech G600. Has the third mouse button like the EVGA X15 has and the 12 button side piece. Just wish it had the 2 buttons next to the left click and came in wireless. Other than that best mouse I've used for MMO games.
Fun fact, if you can get a small screwdriver and some extra feet, there are literal weights inside of the mouse. Takes off about 25g and makes it so so so so so SO much better to handle! G600 is literally the best MMO mouse, change my mind.
I've had the naga and scimitar and logtiechs g600... They all didn't last. I I bought a cheap reddragon mmo mouse.. I it's lasted me 2 years no problems lol. And it still works
I got the Razor Naga Chroma several years ago, like before high school (I'm in College now), and it lasted several long years until it finally has started to give me some issues (tracking issues, I've tried recalibrating to my mousepad but it doesn't seem to be a software problem). I honestly might send it to customer support or something to see if they can fix it and if they can't I honestly might buy a new one. It's been my most used mouse for many many years, tracking and response speed have always been good to me and the keybind customization is incredible. I mainly used the mouse to play games like Escape from Tarkov where there's a ton of keybinds and keybind combinations, and it's just an amazing mouse that I highly recommend for MMO gaming or for games with too many keybinds to count.
Currently using G604, after my G602 malfunctioning after 4 years. Not a massive step up, but an upgrade nonetheless. I'm the type of person that use 1 mouse for everything, G604 excel in my editing work and gaming (CS:GO and MHW). Never had any issues with the connectivity, and if the button starts to get weird, just restart the G-Hub, problems solved. But my only gripe is the rubber padding on top of the mouse, it disintegrate after a year of use. Mine maybe faulty as the padding on the thumb area seems not be fitted properly, but in the slightest of force, the padding tears apart. Apparently the padding on the pinky side also starts to crumble.
Awesome reviews. I have been trying to get one of the EVGA mice to try. I have really big hands and it is tough to find a mouse that fits. Keep up the awesome content.
It is such a shame Logi don't make G600 anymore. I mean come on, THIS was the ultimate MMO mouse, hands down. G604 may be nice, but it simply is not enough to have just 4 usable buttons on the side (yes I know there are 6, but you won't be using the last pair believe me).
i was looking for MMO mice when i just got bored and started scrolling through my subbed channels, and saw your channel, went "hey i know that guy". Idk if its luck or fate
I'm getting the X15 on my next payday, as I don't have the budget for something like the Logitech G600 or similar, because I'm focusing on accumulating the components for my upcoming PC build, plus it's on sale right now. I'm not only building my first top of the line PC, it's also the first time I'm going with a full AMD build. Going to be running with the Ryzen 9 7950x paired with the Sapphire Tech Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX. This also isn't the first time I've had an AMD GPU from Sapphire Tech. The last one I had was an RX 470 4GB.
Just bought a Corsair Scimitar because of you man. Awesome display and demonstration of the unique and important features of the Scimitar. I cant wait for it to come in the mail lol. Thanks for the vid!
I have small hands, just bought a G502 and I can’t even reach the button on the side (the one with the target on it), straining the wrist/arm. what would you recommend for small hands? From what I see you’re able to comfortably reach most of the buttons. I was actually considering the evga x15
I replaced the EVGA X15 already but it still has the scroll wheel issue where it'll scroll opposite directions randomly. This is a very good mouse with a crippling flaw.
not many tech reviewers bother with mmo mice these days, so cudos to you. I have been using mmo mice many years and was always happy with my logitech g600 because it lasted way longer than my old razer naga molten. But time stops for no one and my g600 died, logi did no refresh on it and its still 60-80 euros, so i said fuck that, bought the naga x and have been a happy camper since then. its even very nice for faster shooter games but mainly my rpg mouse (also quite nice for warframe and stuff). for fps and browsing/general use i use a xm1r, mighty good mouse.
Been playing FF14 with the G502 SE and it has been working out great for me. Using the scroll tilt and wheel buttons I am able to get 8 keybinds out of it. I almost always stay in claw for every game I play so my hand is very use to those shapes. Probably why I don't really get the fatigue. Could still bind the dpi button for 9. Great reviews as always and appreciate u switching it up and showing the mmo community some love
Look into the G600. You get 12 keybinds and then can use gshift to get 12 more. I pair the tilt scroll wheel with Ctrl and Shift. So the side panel has "36" different buttons and functions. It's all of your skills, and most all of your hotkeys for inventory, map, duty finder, journal, character etc. I cannot fathom playing ff14 without all my buttons now.
OMG, Techne! I still cannot believe you did a review with thoses mouses... i was looking for this for months! I just need to thank you for this. Amazing. Keep doing this great job! I have a g pro and i love it. But sometimes i just need more buttoms... Not sure in USA, but in EU, the people should avoid Naga. So easy to broken, i have no idea why. I think Logitech has a great quality and soft. Im not sure yet, but 604 seems amazing. Sorry for the bad english, but i just love your videos. Im a big fan! Hugs from Luxembourg!
if i could make a mouse it would have from left to right: 3 thumb buttons like the g502 with thumb rest 3 left pointer buttons like the G604 DPI and scroll unlock as well as scroll tilt a button between the right click and ring finger button like the G604 pointer left button's but 1 of them ring finger button like the EVGA X15 and possibly a pinky button with a pinky rest ergonomics over weight saving and all buttons would be right where you rest your fingers, leaving you with 8 to 9 keys besides the left/right click, scroll wheel and free wheel button all where your fingers rest naturally all spread over the mouse so you dont need to arch back for the back row thumb buttons like some of the 12 side button mice
I too, agree that for comfort and minimalistic but full on features, the G604 is hard to beat. However, I’m on my 3rd now as after a few months of use, the right mouse click would start registering double-clicks rendering it useless. All 3 of my G604 have done this.
As someone who is still using the original scimitar and have to deal with my buttons sliding all the time the Alan key feature on the elite is the best thing to come to the scimitar other than the neutral color scheme.
All mouse reviews should take into account the ability of the mouse software. Can you have profiles for games? Can profiles auto-switch based on the game being played? How do the macro editors compare? Is the software well behaved? Noone seems to do this. It's like lots of people buy cool looking mice, and lots of people review cool looking mice, but many of them don't actually take advantage of a lot of their features. Honestly, going on and on about "size" and "weight" and "shape" is kinda pointless since those are all subjective measures that also depend on a person's hand. Information we could all use is details on the software and customizability features of the mice. But few people do. Just a suggestion! Thanks for the video.
I only watched the EVGA X15 section at first... you didn't cover it at all. I see you did in some other of the portions. That's great! But those are relevant differences to point out when people are deciding between mice.
Why do you need extra buttons for playing New World? I mean it has just 6 skills, and 3 of them share the same keybind and besides that just 4 consumibles. 1, 2, 3, 4, Q, E, R, Z, X, C, V are more than enough and you don't even need a modifier.
the mouse wheel of the evga died on two different mice for me. The first lasted 8 week, the second just 4 weeks. The mice is realy cool but when it comes to quality - it falls very short. btw, you can disable the most left maus button on the bottom of the mouse so there is no left left klick
I purchased the Corsair Simitar Elite a month ago and the scroll wheel crapped out. Started doing a reverse scroll jump randomly. I loved the side buttons and the overall feel but the quality was ultimately shit when it came to basic functionality. Not giving them my money again.
for what do you need a mouse with 20 buttons for a mmo as the game says its just Massive Multiplayer online so you wanna say you also need 20 buttons for warzone its also massively multiplayer online you have 150 people in 1 lobby
No comments on the scimitar regarding all the software issues though? 5 years with no fix for when the side buttons just randomly stop working and it disabling mouse use 🤷
To NOT even give an honourable mention to the Logitech G600 is sin to the highest degree. It's where EVGA gets the ring finger button from, but it has a better button layout for the thumb.If the G600 was wireless, it would be my number one pick, hands down. I also go with the G604 as my number one pick. The only problem is quality. I've gone through 3 in one year, and I'm not gaming for hours on end every day.
All my logitech 604 started doublelicking when i only wanted single clicks after half a year and i had to solder new microswitches into the mice. its a common problem.
OK so which mouse am I using... None... Xbox user my friend if I was pc I would defo go with your number 1 recommendation... Another stinkin awesome video though keep up the good work.. Have you reviewed the headset you are giving away I don't seem to see it...
I have a Razer Naga Trinity. The left mouse button switch has gone out in under a year. After doing some digging, I'm seeing this is a common issue with Razer Naga. I'm done with Razer. I enjoyed your vid and am now a follower.
Bought the Naga Trinity, after about a year or two the right and left click hardly work anymore. Before this it was my favorite gaming mouse I've ever used.
Currently using my G Pro Wireless, want a mouse for New World but just not sure if I absolutely need one. I also use the Superlight for FPS games, so the shape and is still the same when I switch games.
Very nice video, I use my razer orochi V2 to play new world, but, I just think that it would be a total difference if I get to play with one of those mice!. Great video!
I have owned 2 corsair scimitar elite. Both of them had their scroll wheel malfunction within 2 months. Everything else is nice but I'm tired of buying one every 2-6 months
Many of you have recommended the Logitech G600, I looked at it, but the specs were kinda ehhhhh. But hey I love a good recommendation, so I just ordered it. Will update my thought after some time in the comment.
Thanks again! ❤️
It's a great mouse for me ergonomically and I mained it for years playing WoW, but the laser sensor compared to modern mice is so bad that I just can't deal with it, even though the rest of the mouse is so good. Also developed double clicks after 2 years on my LMB. Had to strip away the braiding on the cord since it was so heavy with it and it started fraying.
If we are talking about MMO, RTS, MOBA... The sensor is just fine, tbh any modern sensor is a gimmick for those type of games. Pretty sure if we could put different sensors in the same housing and play any of those type of games... It'd be a coin toss if anyone can guess correctly.
The EVGA mouse is a very interesting and unique one, very cool! But, I'm still rockin' the Logitech 604 and still really enjoying it. Glad you picked it up and are able to experience it!
@@yunloy tbh it’s not just fine. I notice it immediately in Windows, before even entering a game. To me personally there’s no comparison. That sensor just feels slow and laggy comparatively. Now if you’ve never had anything else to compare it to then sure, it can work and one might not notice. To me even for productivity it feels like I’m moving a slow and heavy ball compared to say the Corsair scimitar. Aside from the g600 I personally own the, scimitar, xm1 and viper and any of those sensors are a night and day difference in responsiveness.
@@S-K-L-C I have the Razer naga Pro, Logitech MX Master, Logitech Ergo. But we can agree to disagree.
I kind of want to know more about the build quality and how long it’ll last, or if the products have a tendency to fail in certain mechanical aspects over time. The look of the mice don’t really matter too much to me.
I have the G602 the previous model of the G604. I bought the mouse 7 Years ago and it still works well enough. it has a few battle scars by now but it still functions like on Day 1
I agree. I broke mouses from Razer, Logitech and Corsair equally, in that order.
It may be almost 10 years old, but my old razer with side buttons are beginning to break.
I have the Naga Pro for my Final Fantasy 14 days, it was a great mouse for that game and I played it for over 2000 hours. It does not get use for gaming anymore since I've been using lighter mice but I still use it as a productivity mouse by programming various macros, text box etc. to the buttons. Your point on the heaviness rings true to me since it gets heavier by the hour. Great video as always!
as someone whos used the Corsair Scimitar for over a year. It's a great mouse outside of one thing if you have some heavy fingers you'll eventually end up with double clicks and non responsive clicks due to the plastic right over the switch being fairly soft. you can always open it up and "repair" it with some tape to fill in the dents that create the issue.
I also had it and it is a mouse that does not withstand the passage of time well, apart from the problem that you mention, the side buttons become hyper sensitive and are activated even if you did not want to do so.
I broke a Cosair Scimitar and a PRO version. Two years at best each with daily activities.
I've had 5 Corsair mice in the last 6-7 years. They ALL BROKE. Wheel, unresponsive/double clicks, every time. On the darkstar it literally became unresponsive and disconnected itself, which many others reported too
The G604 definitely looks the most practical regarding balance of button quantity and placement. Before I pull the trigger, I need to take my small girly hands to Best Buy for a test drive though. I'm a die hard Mamba Elite fan addicted to the size, rgb, and tilt scroll, so I'm going to be a hard sell to part ways with the old girl. Appreciate you sharing this info! ♥
but only 6 buttons!!! why can't they release a 12 button version???
I have been using G604 for ARPGs and I have to agree with you the slimmer sides is more comfortable. Also a decent productivity mouse. You can even lower the weight down using the triple AAA battery mod.
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
I've used an MMO mouse since 2011, I think. The original razer naga. It lasted about 5 years if I remember, until the left click went out. Then I found the corsair scimitar. It lasted a couple of years until the mouse wheel stopped working. Replaced with the Scimitar Pro and still using it. I also got my brother a scimitar pro a couple of years ago, and his mouse wheel stopped clicking. I'm still using my latest Scimiar Pro, but it could bite the dust any day, they tend to only last around 2 years, and the left click doesn't feel very clicky like it used it. I've also noticed it seems like the mouse wants to drag when I click so sometimes if I move my mouse away too fast from what I thought I had just clicked on, it doesn't register that I clicked it, if that makes sense.
So I just bought the G604 after having it on my watchlist for a year. It was on a big sale for $45 recently. Unfortuntaely, the bad things pointed out using the G502, applies to how I feel using the G604. After so many years of having a comfy ring finger rest, the G604 feels bad having my ring finger sitting on top of my pinky finger. The worst is playing Back4Blood when I need to pickup the mouse to aim, the side of my pinky bone is jamming into the pointy curvature angle on the side. I played Back4Blood for a couple of hours last night and my hand started getting fatigued on the right side with the ring finger and pinky situation. The extreme weight of the G604 definitely does not help things lol.
I've had a G600 for a while as a backup mouse that I've never had to use, but I'm considering sending the G604 back if I can't get used to it, and just using the very popular and chunky G600. It also has the 3rd finger button like the EVGA mouse you like so much. As of right now, early impressions of the G604, I'm missing that 3rd finger resting area a lot.
SIDE NOTE: I ordered a Razer Naga Trinity in 2019, thinking I've found the mouse I'll be in love with for years to come. It was double clicking right out of the box. And you could literally cause a left click to register without full releasing the button. I wanted to give Razer another shot after my first Scimitar bit the dust, but they failed as soon as I plugged it in haha. Certaintly not made like they used to be.
Using the 604 right now. I got this mouse shortly after release in 2019 and still use it daily for productivity. The weight was the only issue for me and I did some mods to lighten the mouse. I replaced the solid metal scroll wheel with G502's skeleton style and use a AAA to AA adapter. Opening up the mouse can be a headache but it is def worth it. There are tutorials online to help. This mouse is over engineered internally. I hope revisions are made for a future release
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
@@1.m.r00t No double click issues. One thing that does happen eventually is that the rubber material in the thumb rest starts splitting from the plastic base of the mouse. Does not effect functionality.
@@stephenkikzass and for how long are you using this mouse?
@@1.m.r00t I use the mouse for everything but gaming. 40-60 hours a week for 3 years
@@stephenkikzass oh, and it still works well after 3 years, that's really great, thanks for telling
I tested the new nagas, 3 in 1 nagas and so on... I still think the Hex V2 is superior in stock. Better clicks, form that lets me drag it around and not worry, and if you mod it with custom switched and a hyper paracord, oh boi, maybe add some ceramic feet while you at it!
The Hex V2 is still my favorite mouse to this day. And yes, I agree. It was superior quality. Also, and the main issue for me as they moved to the Naga pro is the button layout. The Hex has 7 buttons and they were in a circle (somewhat like the EVGA X15 reviewed here) that design was awesome and I don't know why they replaced it with the 6 button layout. I wish the next Naga would come with a side panel with 7 buttons and in a circular pattern again.
@@kamerinpoche921 naga trinity has the 7 button layout
I am currently using the Razer naga X and I’m really enjoying it. I love That They removed the side clicks on the scroll wheel which made it feel awful. The New one is perfect for scrolling and has a really satisfying click. I use 123 as shift, ctrl and alt. The others I use for convenience like map, character panel, inventory. I Also use a Couple as media keys since I use the miya pro:)
Oh yeah the scroll wheel was absolute garbage on the trinity. This made me cop the X
g600 is masterful the fact logitech ended support for it is sad af, I hope one day they release a refreshed wireless variant of the mouse.
Logitech g600 is still my favorite mouse. It has the ring finger button as well which is great to assign as a shift in WoW to the next row up on skills.
I have 3 currently in use (home PC, work PC, work laptop) and have a spare in my closet just in case.
It too would be my favorite if it had additional top buttons.
I wish I would have seen the Logitech G600 in this lineup. If you think the EVGA fits like a glove I think the G600 will surprise you. Probably the most comfortable mouse I've ever used.
such a disappointment and it's only $30 on Amazon!
I guess it's not on their current lineup. All old stock
@@_archer7101 it's a lot more expensive now that its discontinued
Logitech G600 has the best aspects of all these mice in one package, and probably for a lower price than most if not all of these others. The third button on the top can be used as a modifier key or as it's "G-Shift" function that adds a 2nd programmable function for all other buttons, equating to 40 custom buttons. With the G Hub software I've set up separate profiles for every game I play including macros such as an auto-run toggle for any game. I even have a profile just for desktop use outside of gaming to control volume, audio output, copy/paste, alt+tab, etc.
Best mouse and most customizable hardware gadget I've ever used.
I have the same and tried to upgrade to the G604 because it was wireless. Short story the build on the G604 is not great and I have had to replace 3 of them always going back to my g600 as back up. The G604 is great for a few months and I want to love it but breaking after 6 months sucks.
But is it very durable?
@@nova_zar g600 is durable the G604 is not.
@@nova_zar had mine since 2019 and its only now starting to show wear on clicks.
For a $40 mouse I can't complain
I genuinely think that if Corsair improves on their Darkstar Moba/MMO mouse design, it can land #1 in the future. It's got a wicked build/shape, an excellent premise and lots of useful features - i.e. the tilt function is useful for mounting up or activating autorun. So much potential.
My sister is using Naga X for WoW and New World. I think its a great mouse. I like the weight, shape not so much. Managed to get Logitech G604 for a friend at price of 55$. Awesome mouse. I could feel the weight since I'm using Orochi V2 but the shape and placement of thumb buttons totally won me over. It would be a tough pick for me betwen Naga X and G604 but at the end I would go with G604.
I came here looking to replace the G604 which I loved when it first came out, but as a gamer I can no longer recommend it because of poor build quality. Out of the box the middle scroll wheel is very cluncky and many times does not register when you push it down. I use it for grenades in COD and after a short time a week or so it broke. I did get a free replacement but the scroll wheel on every version I have is so inconsistent I can't use it for any game. Shortly after that one of the side buttons broke completely off, again was replaced. I bought a third one while waiting for the replacement and just over a year later the same thing the side buttons break because underneath is a small plastic membrane that will stop working or break off after time. I am now on my 4th mouse in 2 years and the side buttons have almost stopped working again. I play alot of warzone and fortnite and it sucks getting familiar with a mouse only to have to keep replacing it. I'm thinking of giving the EVGA a try that you reviewed. :) On a side note I still have my original g600 that is going strong after years.
Im fine with my Viper Ultimate in New World. A game like WoW where you have 15 different abilities to use I can definitely see the use. But New World you only have 3 abilities and 1-6 for my consumables. These MMO mice are just too heavy for me. Great vid Tech!
I've used my GPW for over 2 years playing ESO and now New World with my new Superlight. The only time I would consider getting an MMO mouse would be for like WoW or FF14 because holy abilities. I think I'd opt for the Naga though, and probably the wireless version.
Did you check the redragon ones? I'm using the redragon impact for some days and its nice as well. its big so your shovels will fit in perfect.
I have a Razer Naga Pro. I bought it in January of 2021. I like to use the 12 side button attachment for MMO's like WoW, and I use the 2 side button attachment for New World, FPS games, and general internet browsing. After only like 6 months of use the 2 side button plate started to have a poor connection to the body. The buttons just simply will not register until I take the side off and put it back on. I think it is a great idea for a product, but VERY poorly executed. I am looking to replace it with a Model O wireless since I love my Zowie FK1, but I want a wireless mouse.
Hello! Greetings from Indonesia (you may know Indonesia from Bali, hehe). Anyway, I just purchased G604 Lightspeed for my Macbook Pro M1. I initially planned to get one of the Razer mice. However, Razer Synapse 3 doesn't support Macbook. I also don't familiar with Corsair or Steelseries mice. So, after looking at many reviews online for G502 Lightspeed, G604 Lightspeed, G903, MX Master 3S, and more, I decided to purchase G604.
I used G502 Wired back when it came with braided cable (so, a long time ago) until it started to double click, and I purchased another one again.
I have to say, G502 and G604 are for a different target audiences. G502 is for FPS, while G604 is for MMO/MOBA. G502 Lightspeed is also 45% pricier than G604 Lightspeed. I also use G604 for my work (aside from my Logitech Pebble), so the no RGB helps because it still looks appropriate in a professional environment.
Thank you for the review. It was really great. My suggestion is when you compare things, please put all the mice in one frame and a comparison table to recap.
If you see the comment, I wanna ask something before purchasing it. Is Logitech G240 work nicely with G604?
How’d the G600 work out? How does the SteelSeries Aerox 9 compare to these? Thanks!
Hi! :) Got a quick question: is the EVGA mouse software capable of switching profiles depending on which application is in the foreground? Like a different profile for Resolve and let's say Chrome?
hey this was exactly the video I was looking for a few weeks back! glad that we got a sponsor for this video aswell👍
Stinkin' great review! Thinking about the EVGA one for me. Amazing stuff!
Did not know about the adjustable feature on my Corsair, gotta find it so I can enjoy all of it.
Definitely a great review, pinpointed what all mouse users having. I have a large hand and most mouse are just too small for me and giving me that sore muscle you exactly talked about, it's almost like my little finger is going to cramp.
I’ve come to realize after having a basilisk ultimate that g502 shape is not as ergonomic as it seems. The thumb rest is really not that necessary when it comes to ergonomics since its the strongest finger. Better comfort on ring and pinky finger is where it really comes out to me
Great video. I just replaced my beloved 6 year old G502 Proteus Core (all weights in) with the G604 since the weights and shapes are similar so it was an easy transition. I almost went with the EVGA x15 on sale for $30 currently but stuck with Logitech.... again. I dont understand the fuss with these low-weight mice; they feel less precise and less durable for gaming. I had a G302 (broke after 2 years), and currently use a Sensei Raw and G305 for productivity/work.
8:14 This was exactly the info I was looking for in a review. I have the Razor Naga, and the buttons are too far back, hitting 10 11 12 is impossible for me.
Thanks so much for the great review
Aesthetics for me, the Scimitar, functionality + Comfort without a doubt the EVGA X15
As a New World player, a Naga Trinity (and G600) owner and an MMO veteran, I found no reason to use the 12 button layout.
Unlike other MMOs, New World has a limited 3 skill slots bar, and I don't see the point in having 12 buttons on my mouse for this game.
Currently I am playing with the 2 button side, one button for weapon switch and one for a skill bar ability. I also configured the wheel left/right to sheathe and dodge.
Feel free to comment if you disagree and share your usage of the 12/6 buttons sides. (:
I have been thinking about trying a classic 2 button, but man I have gotten so use to this set up , lol
I have a Corsair Scimitar PRO RGB, and Logitech G600. I love the Scimitar. I don't even play MMO games.
I lost functionality of my left hand in car so additional buttons on my mouse help a lot. For my birthday I was given a Naga and with the 12 button setup I had similar gripes; no textured buttons to tell my buttons apart and nowhere to rest my thumb to grab the mouse and reset it. The heavier ones like the G502 and the X15 don't feel as heavy because of the thumbrest.
My hands big enough to rest my thumb above the buttons on the naga haha, guess I never realized they were kinda in the way!
I use the Logitech G600. Has the third mouse button like the EVGA X15 has and the 12 button side piece. Just wish it had the 2 buttons next to the left click and came in wireless. Other than that best mouse I've used for MMO games.
Fun fact, if you can get a small screwdriver and some extra feet, there are literal weights inside of the mouse. Takes off about 25g and makes it so so so so so SO much better to handle!
G600 is literally the best MMO mouse, change my mind.
I need a third button modifier for my next MMO mouse. I've used the G600 before. What makes the EVGA better than the G600?
I've had the naga and scimitar and logtiechs g600... They all didn't last. I I bought a cheap reddragon mmo mouse.. I it's lasted me 2 years no problems lol. And it still works
Nice vid! But what do you think about SteelSeries Aerox 9 Wireless ?
Loving my 502, but what I wouldn't give for a D-Pad like rocker to rest your thumb on, then tilt up/down/left/right for buttons
I got the Razor Naga Chroma several years ago, like before high school (I'm in College now), and it lasted several long years until it finally has started to give me some issues (tracking issues, I've tried recalibrating to my mousepad but it doesn't seem to be a software problem). I honestly might send it to customer support or something to see if they can fix it and if they can't I honestly might buy a new one. It's been my most used mouse for many many years, tracking and response speed have always been good to me and the keybind customization is incredible. I mainly used the mouse to play games like Escape from Tarkov where there's a ton of keybinds and keybind combinations, and it's just an amazing mouse that I highly recommend for MMO gaming or for games with too many keybinds to count.
bro i had a heart attack when this dude just twisted those headphones
Currently using G604, after my G602 malfunctioning after 4 years. Not a massive step up, but an upgrade nonetheless. I'm the type of person that use 1 mouse for everything, G604 excel in my editing work and gaming (CS:GO and MHW). Never had any issues with the connectivity, and if the button starts to get weird, just restart the G-Hub, problems solved.
But my only gripe is the rubber padding on top of the mouse, it disintegrate after a year of use. Mine maybe faulty as the padding on the thumb area seems not be fitted properly, but in the slightest of force, the padding tears apart. Apparently the padding on the pinky side also starts to crumble.
I have had a 2 different razer naga's and after 6 months both have a double clicking issue
Awesome reviews. I have been trying to get one of the EVGA mice to try. I have really big hands and it is tough to find a mouse that fits. Keep up the awesome content.
It is such a shame Logi don't make G600 anymore. I mean come on, THIS was the ultimate MMO mouse, hands down. G604 may be nice, but it simply is not enough to have just 4 usable buttons on the side (yes I know there are 6, but you won't be using the last pair believe me).
i was looking for MMO mice when i just got bored and started scrolling through my subbed channels, and saw your channel, went "hey i know that guy". Idk if its luck or fate
I'm getting the X15 on my next payday, as I don't have the budget for something like the Logitech G600 or similar, because I'm focusing on accumulating the components for my upcoming PC build, plus it's on sale right now. I'm not only building my first top of the line PC, it's also the first time I'm going with a full AMD build. Going to be running with the Ryzen 9 7950x paired with the Sapphire Tech Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX. This also isn't the first time I've had an AMD GPU from Sapphire Tech. The last one I had was an RX 470 4GB.
Just bought a Corsair Scimitar because of you man. Awesome display and demonstration of the unique and important features of the Scimitar. I cant wait for it to come in the mail lol. Thanks for the vid!
awesome, so glad to be able to help. are you playing new world?
I have a Razer naga Trinity and I love that mouse. By far my favorite out of any MMO mouse
Great video once again! I'm a huge mmo fan and in need of a new mouse. This really helps me out.
Get the g600
very informative. thank you.
I have small hands, just bought a G502 and I can’t even reach the button on the side (the one with the target on it), straining the wrist/arm. what would you recommend for small hands? From what I see you’re able to comfortably reach most of the buttons. I was actually considering the evga x15
Great video. Would love to see follow up if there is anything new in the market
I replaced the EVGA X15 already but it still has the scroll wheel issue where it'll scroll opposite directions randomly. This is a very good mouse with a crippling flaw.
G600 FTW
Is like you read my mind and give me the answers every time! Great video!
I don't use any of these, the 604 looks pretty nice though, sweet video bro, Peace.
not many tech reviewers bother with mmo mice these days, so cudos to you. I have been using mmo mice many years and was always happy with my logitech g600 because it lasted way longer than my old razer naga molten.
But time stops for no one and my g600 died, logi did no refresh on it and its still 60-80 euros, so i said fuck that, bought the naga x and have been a happy camper since then. its even very nice for faster shooter games but mainly my rpg mouse (also quite nice for warframe and stuff). for fps and browsing/general use i use a xm1r, mighty good mouse.
small update, my xm1r still works fine 2x razer naga x both are broken. fuck razer.
Been playing FF14 with the G502 SE and it has been working out great for me. Using the scroll tilt and wheel buttons I am able to get 8 keybinds out of it. I almost always stay in claw for every game I play so my hand is very use to those shapes. Probably why I don't really get the fatigue. Could still bind the dpi button for 9. Great reviews as always and appreciate u switching it up and showing the mmo community some love
Look into the G600. You get 12 keybinds and then can use gshift to get 12 more. I pair the tilt scroll wheel with Ctrl and Shift. So the side panel has "36" different buttons and functions.
It's all of your skills, and most all of your hotkeys for inventory, map, duty finder, journal, character etc.
I cannot fathom playing ff14 without all my buttons now.
OMG, Techne! I still cannot believe you did a review with thoses mouses... i was looking for this for months! I just need to thank you for this. Amazing. Keep doing this great job! I have a g pro and i love it. But sometimes i just need more buttoms... Not sure in USA, but in EU, the people should avoid Naga. So easy to broken, i have no idea why. I think Logitech has a great quality and soft. Im not sure yet, but 604 seems amazing. Sorry for the bad english, but i just love your videos. Im a big fan! Hugs from Luxembourg!
if i could make a mouse it would have from left to right:
3 thumb buttons like the g502 with thumb rest
3 left pointer buttons like the G604
DPI and scroll unlock as well as scroll tilt
a button between the right click and ring finger button like the G604 pointer left button's but 1 of them
ring finger button like the EVGA X15
and possibly a pinky button with a pinky rest
ergonomics over weight saving and all buttons would be right where you rest your fingers, leaving you with 8 to 9 keys besides the left/right click, scroll wheel and free wheel button all where your fingers rest naturally all spread over the mouse so you dont need to arch back for the back row thumb buttons like some of the 12 side button mice
cant wait for the new glorious mouse review! good work as always
I’m looking for a SteelSeries rival 500, which in my opinion is the best mmo mouse.
logitech g600 it may be an old model but it lasts a long time and has so many buttons
I too, agree that for comfort and minimalistic but full on features, the G604 is hard to beat.
However, I’m on my 3rd now as after a few months of use, the right mouse click would start registering double-clicks rendering it useless. All 3 of my G604 have done this.
My dream mouse is a wireless, silent verison of the Logitech G600. Hope they make it one day.
As someone who is still using the original scimitar and have to deal with my buttons sliding all the time the Alan key feature on the elite is the best thing to come to the scimitar other than the neutral color scheme.
All mouse reviews should take into account the ability of the mouse software. Can you have profiles for games? Can profiles auto-switch based on the game being played? How do the macro editors compare? Is the software well behaved?
Noone seems to do this. It's like lots of people buy cool looking mice, and lots of people review cool looking mice, but many of them don't actually take advantage of a lot of their features. Honestly, going on and on about "size" and "weight" and "shape" is kinda pointless since those are all subjective measures that also depend on a person's hand.
Information we could all use is details on the software and customizability features of the mice. But few people do. Just a suggestion! Thanks for the video.
I only watched the EVGA X15 section at first... you didn't cover it at all. I see you did in some other of the portions. That's great! But those are relevant differences to point out when people are deciding between mice.
As always great video I’m using nags pro both the evga and Logitech look like something that might work out better since I have gigantic hands.
new world, has like 3 buttons, what mmo mouse would you use??
Why do you need extra buttons for playing New World? I mean it has just 6 skills, and 3 of them share the same keybind and besides that just 4 consumibles. 1, 2, 3, 4, Q, E, R, Z, X, C, V are more than enough and you don't even need a modifier.
would you reccomend any for fps to, i like a mouse with more then 2 side buttons but competitive for fps to
Can you do a review of two new naga wireless mouse? Thank you
Awesome vid man, i would love to try the Logitech wireless
the mouse wheel of the evga died on two different mice for me. The first lasted 8 week, the second just 4 weeks. The mice is realy cool but when it comes to quality - it falls very short.
btw, you can disable the most left maus button on the bottom of the mouse so there is no left left klick
Can u do a setup tour? That whould be Great. Btw Great content
funny you ask, I have one coming this weekend ;)
@@TheTechne WHAT??!! what a coinsidence
Don’t play mmos but always happy to watch another techne vid :)
Corsair :D i love this mouse over 5 years
I purchased the Corsair Simitar Elite a month ago and the scroll wheel crapped out. Started doing a reverse scroll jump randomly.
I loved the side buttons and the overall feel but the quality was ultimately shit when it came to basic functionality. Not giving them my money again.
for what do you need a mouse with 20 buttons for a mmo as the game says its just Massive Multiplayer online so you wanna say you also need 20 buttons for warzone its also massively multiplayer online you have 150 people in 1 lobby
Thank you for the recomendations! Im using the Mx Master 3 for new world, you just can't beat the comfort
No comments on the scimitar regarding all the software issues though? 5 years with no fix for when the side buttons just randomly stop working and it disabling mouse use 🤷
To NOT even give an honourable mention to the Logitech G600 is sin to the highest degree. It's where EVGA gets the ring finger button from, but it has a better button layout for the thumb.If the G600 was wireless, it would be my number one pick, hands down.
I also go with the G604 as my number one pick. The only problem is quality. I've gone through 3 in one year, and I'm not gaming for hours on end every day.
All my logitech 604 started doublelicking when i only wanted single clicks after half a year and i had to solder new microswitches into the mice. its a common problem.
buying the EVGA X15... its the best option for me
OK so which mouse am I using... None... Xbox user my friend if I was pc I would defo go with your number 1 recommendation... Another stinkin awesome video though keep up the good work.. Have you reviewed the headset you are giving away I don't seem to see it...
I have a Razer Naga Trinity. The left mouse button switch has gone out in under a year. After doing some digging, I'm seeing this is a common issue with Razer Naga. I'm done with Razer.
I enjoyed your vid and am now a follower.
Bought the Naga Trinity, after about a year or two the right and left click hardly work anymore. Before this it was my favorite gaming mouse I've ever used.
Why did I watch this AFTER I bought a mouse......
Been using the Naga (wired) for a few years now. It the only way I can play MMOs. Just having a swappable button set is worth it for me.
Currently using my G Pro Wireless, want a mouse for New World but just not sure if I absolutely need one. I also use the Superlight for FPS games, so the shape and is still the same when I switch games.
Naga pro... You're welcome.
Hi do you reccomend the eksa's
You should check out the Roccat Leadr Wireless. That's been my go-to for a while now. QC isn't that great but the button layout is great.
G604 for me, got for $40 on Amazon last year.
Must have: Scroll tilt! Wireless!
Techne would like to know your thoughts on New World if possible
corsair scimitar pro is god teir
Very nice video, I use my razer orochi V2 to play new world, but, I just think that it would be a total difference if I get to play with one of those mice!. Great video!
thank you
I have owned 2 corsair scimitar elite. Both of them had their scroll wheel malfunction within 2 months. Everything else is nice but I'm tired of buying one every 2-6 months