I bought the Logitech g303 shroud after debating for weeks and it was absolutely worth it. Was using a Corsair glaive before and the 303 is so much lighter and wireless is just my favorite now
I also bought the g303 shroud edition coming from the g502 and the weight of the g303 is really low compared to the g502 and has increased my performance in game. I absolutely love the g303 and would recommend if your considering one
@@oscarcawthorne8776 the g502 is definitly on the heavy side. But u gotta love the features. Imo its more a productivity and price to feature king than an actual gaming mouse
@@oscarcawthorne8776 I am on a G700 rn since 9 years I am debating wether I want to seap to the feature rich but lighter 502 or the effing fast 303 I will decide next week tho.
@@oscarcawthorne8776 I think in the end the G502 wins for me since I am used to the shape and using the many buttons. I ordered a 303 for a test. I am having my hands on a wired 502 for some days already and can confirm I like it, even if I still have to adjust to it. I am excited what I will feel about the303 😂
This is a video I’ve been waiting so long for somebody to actually make. So many times have I had to explain all of these things to people when they’re looking for mice that fit them as I’m the tech guy in my group. Thank you so much for making my life easier by just being able to share this video instead of explaining it all time after time.
It's all about the shape! As long as the weight is reasonable the shape is pretty much all that matters. I also like wired because I'm lazy and don't want to ever think about charging. I love a simple mouse like the G203 (or whatever shape best fits you) maybe paracord it and install after market feet and you're good to go.
You have some mice that only need charging once every several months. My current cheap mouse I've been using for like 8 years lasts like 1-2 years on 2 batteries and I use it a lot, every single day.
some gaming mice like my razer basilisk x hyperspeed use AA battery, it's so simple to switch battery I can get a new one in in under 2 seconds. The wire is so annoying I once had to use a wired mouse it was not fun
If I’m being perfectly honest , I’m so happy with my G305 that I got for 35£, that I can’t recommend anything else. I did the AAA battery change making it 75 gm and it’s just a very good mouse.
I agree! I bought the G305 looking for a good wireless mouse to use on the go. I ended up having it as my main mouse. The only feature I kind of miss is the side scrolling capacity for editing videos.
Been gaming with a mouse/keyboard for 20somewhat years now and the few times I have upgraded my mouse or been forced to replace it, its always came down to ergonomics above everything else for me. And this is not just if the mouse is comfortable for my grip but also the button placements and even the scroll wheel.. you won't believe how many sucky wheels there are. After that I look for "features" but honestly there's so much bullshit they're trying to sell us it's unreal :P so yes a tip guide like this is great for new people and or those that are unsure. The main thing a lot of mice reviewers often forget is that for a lot of us a mouse isn't just used for that one gaming session a day, it has to be comfortable for more than that.
Been using a simple wired logitech G203 for several years now on my personal desktop PC. I didn't need anything crazy since I'm nowhere near a competitive gamer. it fits my hand and is super comfortable. Started seeing double click issues about a year ago, but just blowing out around the buttons does the trick. The only issue I actually have is the 2 side buttons are 2 far forward for my usual grip style and I've not been able to break that habit. For my work mouse I use a wireless Logitech M705. I like using wireless with a laptop. It's shape encourages a better grip on it for long periods of time working and you can "unlock" the wheel to get to the end of long documents or scroll past 1000s of lines of text in moments. This is really useful for my work as a support analyst.
I was using it too, loved it but then the sensor light just stopped turning on even tho it incurred no damages and the clicks were still working. Razer hasnt been caring about consistency :(
I've used a G9x (and it's predecessor) for a long time and I still consider it one of the best simple mice, then I switched to a g900 chaos, which is one of my favorite mice ever made, since it allows wired or wireless, as well as customizable side-buttons (2/4/or none) and it's ambidextrous (which surprisingly makes it feel good even if you're right-handed). But since I got a g600 for an mmo (to free up finger movement on the KB when you need to move and jump and use skills all at the same time), I've come to appreciate it so much more than any other mouse. I use it in games, for work, for everyday browsing, and even file operations; the third top button can act as a g-shift or whatever else you need, to effectively double the amount of commands. It's honestly tied with g900 for the best mouse I've ever used, and I've since bought 2 spares (cause from experience, things I like go out of production/stock faster than I can react). If there's one thing I really wish it had, it's the flywheel that both G9x and G900 have; it's inclusion would've made it my #1 bar none. EDIT: I'd also add, I had the g502 as well, and it (and every other mouse with rubber-ish surface) is absolutely disgusting after a some use; that rubber crap they're coated with literally melts, and mine looks like I've ripped out a few holes where my fingers touched it all the time (claw grip here). If the shell is not made of plastic (or metal) I don't even look at it anymore. Heck, I'd pay a good premium if the shells/buttons were made of aluminium or similar non oxidizing metal.
I chose a Razer Viper Ultimate, because after looking at dozens and dozens of mice in detail and doing like a week worth of research, comparing reviews and whatnot, it kind of hit all boxes for me. I wanted something mostly lightweight, not honeycomb-shaped, durable and wireless. I had scrolling issues with my past two mice (XM1r and Roccat Kone Air Pro) after not actually a long time. Before that in the past I of course had a Logitech G203 and (surprise surprise), it had a double-clicking issue after the warranty ran out. I manually bent a copper plate in the switch to fix it for a few months, but it eventually returned. I gotta say, I've really had it with Logitech and after buying a G930, a G430, a G203 and a G910 in the past, which all had well-timed issues after the warranty expired (2+ years, I think), I won't be a returning customer anymore. The G930 had frequent disconnects, the G430 had its leather get flaky & sticky and fall off, staining everything around it. The G203 with its double-clicking issue and the G910 has such intentionally flimsy keycaps, it's crazy. Only 2 very milky flimsy plastic sticks that hold the keycaps in place. And of course the CTRL key broke off after 2 years with no individual replacement keycap for this particular one in sight. I'm much better served with an actually durable Redragon K556 that has been a great buy and it has lasted me many years already. I've had it with Logitech. That's why the Superlight was no option for me. It ticked many of the right boxes, but I just know Logitech from experience. Back in the day Logitech made fantastic and durable mice in the early 2000s. Not anymore.
I have viper ultimate and it's just made for smaller hands can't get any comfortable grip, any other Logitech mice would not stress my hands. Viper has only DeathAdder to offer.
I allso have viper ultimate but the size is is small for my hands but tracking is better than logitech G903 that i have in my main rig and G903 fit my hands better but is not perfect and quality is not so great because of the double cllick issue.
I had the Mercury RVU and it was hands down the most gorgeous mouse ever made. However, the hump height was just too low for me making it nearly impossible to feel stable with it.
My deciding factor with my last mouse was optical switches. I was so sick of having mice that eventually end up double clicking and I'm not about to waste time and money opening a mouse up and replacing switches myself. The only con was that I bought a Razer and I have to deal with this horrible Synapse software but yeah, no double-clicking and having that peace of mind is great. Looking to get the MM720 soon but I do hope they release a wireless version of that.
I don't think optical switches are really necessary. Yes it was a problem with older mice that had crappier switches, but all respectable companies have now equipped their mice with switches that will never double click.
@@bonanzabrandon6877 Man's just straight up making things up. My Model O started double clicking 6 months in while my Viper Mini is still going strong after a year.
3:13 note that that part particular chart shows a wireless mouse as the top scoring but in reality the viper 8k beats it, ali of optimum tech included that in that mouse's separate review
I have a Logitech M720 from Costco - branded as "Logitech Precision Pro Wireless Mouse". Normally $29.99 but I got in on sale for $19.99. It is a little heavy for gaming (135 g), but I love it for productivity. Very comfortable and a lot of options. I have the scroll wheel tilt setup to change virtual desktops left or right, and have two of the left side buttons setup for copy and paste.
Got the Model D wireless a couple months ago. Was mainly looking for a big wireless mouse but still on the lighter side. So far it's been good, the only knock I give it is the short battery life.
Glorious has worse battery life than others on the market, but it's only stark when the LEDs are enabled. My Model O has 4x if not more battery life with them off.
I was debating between staying on my model o and buying a wireless replacement, so I decided to spend a little on a g304 and try the idea out. The freedom is great and now every family member is using one. I found myself liking the shape more than my model o so I'm not sure if I want to eventually upgrade anymore.
Shape was #1 when I chose my mouse. Then Wireless, then Qi charging. Having embedded three Qi chargers in my desk underneath my deskmat, allows me to wirelessly charge my keyboard and mouse without any signs of cables on my desk and without the need of ever pluging in. It's awesome! Plugged a mini-USB Qi charging adapter into my wireless keyboard and taped it underneath, so that it always charges. My mouse just lives on the Qi-charger when not in use. Only time I ever plug them in is for firmware updates. -Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE -Corsair K63 (Qi-mod + switch lube and case dampening) Logitec MX Master 2s all the way for productivity.
the last time i bought a mouse was in like 2016, i'm not really a gamer but my primary focus was having buttons i could program for cut/copy/paste/del/undo/redo, for editing purposes. not gonna lie i completely forget undo and redo are on there, but the rest have been crucial for speeding up workflow. definitely important for future mouse purchases.
I bought a G305 back in March 2021 and have loved it for both work and gaming. The DPI switch is actually REALLY useful for grabbing precise (to the pixel) screenshots at work. I loved it so much that I bought a second one when it looked like we might be going back to the office (yay omicron!) so I could just keep one there. I’ll recommend the G305 to anyone.
Still using my G305 right now, but got the dreaded double click not long after I bought a second for my mom. Pretty much all my Logitech mice now have double click (except for my G9 Laser, which sadly died on me (presumably the laser)). And Logitech build quality and testing seems to be getting worse.
My G305 has started acting up in all sorts of ways over the years. Most recently it's got connection issues that seem to be hardware based (the LED light keeps flickering whenever it happens). The double click only happens with the side buttons for me but it's still annyoing.
Honestly, I've had a G502 for years now and after trying a couple of these newer really light mice I still prefer it. Biggest things for me are comfort and useful features which the G502 does amazingly for me. Really think I'll just be going for the wireless version once my current mouse kicks it.
I had the G502 (still have it somewhere, actually) and now have 3 x G502 Lightspeed. Yes, 3 units of the same mouse. It is THAT good, the wireless version improves on every aspect of the wired version, and the shape and button placement of the G502 is just perfect. I had the G902 and G703 Lightspeed and didn't like them as much, so I sold them. Keyboard and mouse are among the most important components in your daily usage of a PC, it's just not worth it to cheap out on something I use every single day for so many hours. I also have the G915 Lightspeed KB and the Logitech Powerplay charging mouse pad...it's freaking genius. Bought it very cheap though, the pad is not worth it at the official retail price, too pricy. Cheers.
If u dont need the features the g305 is a very tempting choice for you too ;) much lighter especially is u use it with an AAA and an aluminium ball for the space filling
The texture and durability of the exterior is really important. I see the old G9X with the precision shell as a gold standard. I really avoid materials that will get gummy over time, like what happened to to my G502.
Yes, the rubber does eventually wear out. I have one that literally started shedding pieces. That's why when I finally have to replace one of G502s, I buy two, just in case it's ever discontinued.
Went for the Logitech G604 because I used the G602 and I liked the heft and size for my hand. It's definitely not for competitive gaming but it's comfortable and very useful for work as well (side to side wheel scroll plus zero friction vertical scroll are amazing if you deal with a lot of documents and excel sheets)
I got a Razer Deathadder, mainly because it fits perfectly in my hand, and after 5 years can't be more satisfied, it's precise and comfortable. And as stated in the video, i tried the various DPI settings in the beginning, chose one, and been using it ever since.
I was using a Logitech G502 wireless for a Year, I was really happy until double click issues showed up.... so I made a lot of research and I bought a Cooler Master M720 (wired) and I'm really happy with the change... M720 is like having nothing in my hand... I really love how I feel it while I play (FPS). Maybe I miss some extra buttons that the G502 has but I wont return to G502... not for gamming.
I bought a Logitech G900 years and years ago. Never failed, always good on Battery and Latency etc - best fit for my hand and the G-Hub software isn't a problem. I turn all the 'Gimmick' RGB rubbish off, saves battery life. I am an Avid Gamer and play at least 3-4 hours a day (damn work getting in the way). Great review, absolutely spot on with the advice :)
I’ve had a lot of different mice over the years and I have stuck with a Deathadder, even if it gets beaten in a lot of categories. Why? Shape, it’s just perfect for my hands and I’ve found that to be the single most important thing on a mouse for me. I did felt it was a bit heavier compared to others I had, then I went to the gym and problem solved 😂😂
One of the absolute, most invaluable mouse features I've ended up loving after trying is infinite scrolling/free spinning. Seriously, I didn't know how much I needed it in my life until I got a Logitech or a more recent Basilisk v3.. I can't go back now. It's over for me.
You are legend finally a guy understand gaming, does research, understand grip styles and hand difffers so needs differs. And credits to a ninja rocket guy that does measurement site.
As someone who thought he'd never get away from the original Wingman Gaming Mouse I have now successfully transitioned to the MM720 and I absolutely love it. The cable is incredible. I am very tempted though in trying the infamous MZ1 - just not sure yet if "wanting to try" is worth the price for me. They don't sell very well used here in my country so might as well buy one from somebody with the same idea/approach and not lose a lot of money in case I don't like it.
finally a review worth watching. Valid points . Hope players take it on board. I bought a Logitec G Pro hero wired one. Paid 40 box for it. It has a classic design. No fancy buttons and lights or extra weights (like G502 which is far more expensive) and this is the best mouse I've played games with. layout in hand is perfect and has the same sensor as more expensive ones . All these fancy RGB lights and buttons has no effect whatsoever on your gaming performance neither on how accurate and consistent the mouse is in tracking ( which is the most important part in gaming ) .
when i went from my logitech g500 to a g502 i was so mad at the fact i couldn't anymore adjust my x/y dpi like i was able to previously. Being able to have different dpi for each axes is in my opinion one of the most underestimate feature for ergonomics and hand health...
If you’ve got the money, I really recommend the viper ultimate. It so light and the weight is spread well over the mouse. And the recharge dock is really nice and you won’t ever forget to charge the mouse. But the biggest pro about the mouse is how smooth the mouse moves and how smooth the laser is, mixed with the fastest mouse buttons it’s just an overall great mouee!
Features meant for gaming can also be dead useful for productivity! Reprogrammable buttons and macro buttons are both great for doing things in complicated software programs that rely on lots of keyboard shortcuts for the fastest workflow. Macros can be used outside of games for doing tedious simple tasks like copying a list of number values from a text document, using them for a calculation with the calculator app, and then pasting them into a table or another list somewhere. Provided you know the appropriate desktop keyboard shortcuts for navigating around the operating system and the specific programs you are using. I despise mice that have navigation buttons for backward and forward history browsing, which don't let you change them, and are easy to press by accident. They can very easily lead to catastrophe if you're doing work in an odd web app in a browser, and the app doesn't have an auto save feature. Just one history back action, and it can erase all the work you have done for potentially hours.
Now THAT was a helpful review. Giving us the information we can use to work through our decisions is far more valuable to a consumer than someone just giving their personal ranking. Though, having more information like this can probably make those ranking lists more useful.
I played with an old razer Naga for years. But when it was finally time to get a new one I again chose Razer Naga, this time Naga trinity. It feels so natural to my hand. So light, and balanced.
Went for the G304 wireless instead of the G102 since in the long run I could really benefit having a wireless mouse with less clutter on the table, no more issues with the wire beginning to break and to add the fact that the latency and sensor is really good for gaming competitively
@@dookie7299 well it depends on you bro, if you have the budget or wanna try wireless for a change its really good since it has the same performance as other top grade Logitech mice. Just think of it as an investment..
@@sesu5543 I went to Micro Center and got the G502 wired instead. It was about the same price but it fit my hand better. I like it a lot, and I think I might try out the G304 in the future. Hopefully they make a wired one.
I've been using some version of the Razer naga for about 10 years, and honestly I couldn't use any other mouse. I never played PC games before then, and I do play MMO, but since then I've played other games and I'm just so used to binding functions in game to it, and not elsewhere on my keyboard, I would have to re-learn how I play games on PC.
The main things I wanted from my mouse was for it to be super light but without that honeycomb shell cus I didn't like the idea of gunk buildup/potentially getting something stuck inside. So I went with a Razer Viper (wired) cus that seemed like the best bet. I'll be honest, I wish the side buttons were a bit bigger/protruded a little more, and I'm still not 100% loving the slightly mushier click from their special switches. I can definitely get over the mushy thing tho because you really don't notice it after a while and it's great to not worry about double-clicking. I think my ideal mouse is the newer Deathadder cus I loved that shape and they went and made it much lighter + all the benefits of the newer switch, but I can't really justify the change for now
As a non-competitive gamer that doesn't even like "twitch-reaction-times" gaming, but work a lot with my PC, nothing beats ye good olde reliable Logitech M100. No RBG. No gamer bling. No many buttons festival. No in-your-face big "gamer geek" logo. No weird geeky immature look. No background app. No hour wasted on configuration. No tons of holes supposedly to save weight but actually meaning "this is a dust collector". A simple shape that just fits. It just works. End of story. Gotta love it.
for me the roccat nyth is still the best mmo mice .the arrangement of the side buttons and the switch+ makes this mice sooo good that i m unable to switch to any other mice .
The mouse I wish for: - G502 wireless without rgb running on AA batteries as with high endurance on G603 (or standard rechargeable lithium cells - the point is that the batt is easily bought and replaced when it dies); - Same rubberized mouse wheel like on the wireless version, preferably easily replaceable when the rubber coating wears down, also for the side rubber grips; - Hotswap switches, including the middle mouse button that is currently that annoying tiny domed microswitch - I use it often and it's risky to replace it when it dies. I can dream, can't I.
Still rocking the g502 wireless and the Logitech charging mouse pad. Never have to change a battery or plug it in and I have just enough buttons to do everything I need to
I love the buttons on the side! Even though I'm only using it so I don't take my hand off the mouse when playing Star Wars: The Old Republic (just got back into it lol). Worth it for me.
I have an Logitech G500 since 2013 basically every day, several hours a day... Droped this mouse several times... The cable is worn (very worn), but still works fine. VERY used mouse i must say. I also have an Logitech Keyboard (i think it´s something between 2005-2007 at max). It´s so worn that most of the keys dont have the letters, and shines of so much abuse, lol The A button, brakes underneath, but still function (dont have click pressure, but works fine). Love the brand for durability, and for what i know, the support is very good too.
I had several mice throughout my life and eventually I got back to my beloved Razer Deathadder, this time in the form of the new V2 X Hyperspeed. Before I used the Logitech G Pro Wireless but my hands are just too big, even with using claw grip style, it wasnt comfortable enough for me. Knowing the Deathadder was perfect back in the day and also the 2010 edition, I got the newest version and it just feels like home! Now even with the awesome freedom that wireless technology offers :)
I just got the Aerox 9 wireless because I wanted a big mouse to use with excellent battery life. Im not a MMO gamer but man does it feel good in the hands.
Good Video! Thanks Dmiitry! Two years ago, I bought a Logitech G305 wireless mouse which Linus love. But that's after he changed the battery's weight which balanced and lightened it. So I bought the mouse and did the same. Got the lighter lithium batteries and ordered AAA lithium battery sleeves. Yeah, good idea. I love the mouse for six months. Then it started to double click. So changed the switches. I use to think Omron was the best but after I changed to Kailh, I've had over a year of good gaming, good production work.
I just bought the Razer Viper Mini and am very happy. I have relatively small hands and I find it very comfortable. Plus it׳s dirt cheap for what you get, I picked it up for 30$ on Amazon.
I bought the hyperx haste a few months back. I have seen youtube videos about reviewers complaining that it has a cheap sensor which is known to have liftoff distance problem. But in these few months of use, I simply can't complain. I'm a casual gamer and average skills who love playing valorant and CSGO. I usually buy budget peripherals, and have owned steelseries rival 100, rival 110, logitech g102. I bought a mm720 which started having issues. Returned it and got hyperx haste instead and it's the best mouse I have had ever. I know that I have had only budget mice, but I have zero complaints. The shape is good, no spinoff and liftoff problems for me. It's priced well and performs great. The build quality is reasonable too, no squeeks and creeks. I was skeptical that the internals of the mouse will be covered with dust in a few months but I don't see anything, says a lot because I live in North India, where dust is an issue.
Factors that I look at when buying a mouse: 1) Weight 60g or less is ideal, if it's over 70g that's a dealbreaker and I won't buy. 2) Size and shape, if a mouse is too small it will cramp my hands, if it's too big it won't feel like I have as precise of an aim as I want. No extreme shapes (sorry Kone Pro Air). My main mouse is the G Pro X Superlight and it will take an impressive mouse to dethrone it, Finalmouse Starlight 12 phantom is close 2nd place for me.
I currently have a Razer Mamba Elite and it has been great to use with my quite big hands. It is also really comfortable for different grip styles and for just casual stuff when you have to write or just scroll through the internet.
Love my G600, I do play mostly MMOs with keyboard and mouse and almost all other games via a Controller. So, the extra buttons help me map out my hotbars much better for all of my skills in a MMO.
MMO mouse are great for non-gaming use. I assign volume controls, zoom, alt tabbing, desktop switching the fly without having to take your hand off the mouse, use both hands to reach ctrl windows left/right. In fact, 12 isn't enough. Logitech as a Gshift button, which when holding down allows you to bind 12 more actions to the same buttons. And I used all of those. MMO mice are amazing, even for MMOs.
When I game I usually have youtube running as well & that dpi button is important to toggle back & fort with as usually play shooters 400 dpi game then I switch over to my 2nd monitor 1440p to click something and that needs atleast 1000+ dpi to do quickly then go back 400 dpi on the game so that DPI button is a must have use cases like mine
All gaming mice from reputable brands will have good internals (sensor, PCB). What I look for now is how other factors of the mice allow me to use it well: 1. Shape 2. Switches/buttons 3. Skates 4. (If wired) cable 2-4 are adjustable with after market modding. So shape is the thing I look for.
To simplify the video, if you want an MMO mouse, get a mouse with many side buttons like the Razer Naga and other brands with products alike. If you want an FPS mouse, you need a comfortable mouse with a tight grip for your finger tips, for this go for any textured mouse with deep slopes on the buttons like the Razer Viper or other mice alike it. If you want a productivity mouse, go for the MX master 3 from Logitech. If you want a mouse to fit all needs, since i am a Razer fan, I'd go for the basilisk V3, look at the basilisk V3 for why I chose it and choose another mouse that has similar features to it if you don't like Razer.
Spent months trying new shapes, weights and sizes (GPX, RVU, MZ1, M42) to upgrade from my wired Xtrfy M4, only to go back to where I started and get the M4 Wireless :)
I have a favorite mouse that is 20 years old and have never found another to take its place. the shape and buttons and everything are just what i like.. wish i would have bought two of them..
The last time I got a mouse it was around a year and a half ago. I got the Razer DeathAdder V2, just because of the reviews that were praising it and because I knew it would fit my style since I had owned a BenQ EC2-B before that, so the shapes were quite similar, being more aggressive on the curves on the DeathAdder V2. Now, I've realized I want something better for claw grip and maybe a bit lighter, combined with a better mousepad since the one I've been running has been purchased for 5$ and it really shows it's not the best.
I have had 3 g502, all of them broke due to the cable. Got the g903, double click issues. Got the mz1, cable broke, replaced with aftermarket. Got the razer orochi and put triple A's in it. Found that the egg was just the best for me. Comfortable, lightweight, wireless, long battery life, reliable, and customizable. Oh and right after I found that out, I found I had windows acceleration on. Went into a game or two after warming up, was headshotting everyone. I quit playing seriously after that day. Deleted all but the two games I play with friends.
I have an MMO mouse and now, I swear by having at least 4 easy-to-reach extra mouse buttons. Granted, not everyone likes it like I do, so yeah, still recommend people think through whether they really will use it.
I bought Tecware Exo L+ because it's quite cheap. It doesn't have fancy features like Razer Naga, or wireless. It doesn't try to be advertised as the best mouse. It's just there and I bought it. My first mouse and my current favourite.
My deciding factors for a mouse are the durability, and the amount of buttons. 2 side buttons is not enough. 12 is too many. 4 is ideal. I got the steelseries rival 5 cause it has 5. I prefer 2 DPI buttons; sadly this only has 1. However, it claims 3x durability compared to most mouse switches I have used. It isn't my perfect mouse, but it is good. My perfect mouse would have four identical side buttons, the two DPI buttons, and would be maybe a teeny tiny touch lighter than the rival 5.
I'm personally a fingertip gripper who, as of late, has become interested in finding a mouse with a control nub (like the ones found on the Nintendo 3DS for example) or d-pad where my right thumb would be (plus another on the opposite side which my ring finger could use), to mimic the kinds of joysticks found on DualShock-styled controllers (as typically used in game consoles), so that I could opt to move the character with said control stick or d-pad on the mouse instead of the WASD or arrow keys on the keyboard. An extra button, mouse wheel, analog control nub, or d-pad in front of or behind where the left, right, and middle mouse buttons would normally be would also be nice, since my fingertip-grip style allows for me to use my flexible fingers to move between buttons as needed, much like moving between buttons on a controller.
I bought a g pro superlight, after weeks of research it just turned out to be the best mouse i could have wished for! My old and loved g203 doesn’t stand a chance against it
Last mouse I bought was the Roccat Tyon, only bought it as my Cyborg MMO7 sensor died and the button layout was as close as I could get. Got it around 5 years ago now, still going strong.
Been tired with double clicking mouse within months, finally got a Rog Keris wireless with hot swappable switches, really well built, never look back to any Logitech mouse.
**As I sit here setting up my soldering iron so i can de-solder my Glorious Model D's switcches to swap them with some Kailh GM 4.0 reds** "WHAT?? There's mice that offer Hot-Swap functionalities????????" Despite that, I absolutely love my Model D. So much so i decided to get the D-. Not sure why not having a problem with my Model D. But figured i'd run it for a while and os far i love it! Glorious is super underrated to me i also have their GMMK TKL and i absolutely love it. I lubed the switches and clipped and lubed the stabs and it is a superb board for being a prebuilt. I also definitely plan on getting the GMMK Pro and building something a little nicer.
i sold off a dozen of mice and revert back to my old Asus Gladius 2 and Logitech MX Master 3 mouse. I realised the shape of the mouse to our palm, the grip should be the first criteria to choose a mouse, not weight. I also use grip tape on both mice. Well thats me.
Last time I bought a mouse? Oh that takes me back almost ten years. Yep that's right, I've been using the same mouse, a Mionix NAOS 8200, for the last nine years and change... Buying this particular mouse was the result of testing a lot of mice and having a lot of problems with the quality of the components. It's all started with me buying a mouse that was the most comfortable and probably the best over all mouse I've ever owned. Now this might sound strange, but I can't recall the brand, just that the model was called M3 or 3M. It was marketed by a brand that a long time ago was known for their mouse surfaces, disappeared from the market and then many years later came back but now with a mouse instead of a new mouse mat. This mouse was large and many ridiculed it for it's size, but most reviewers ended up loving it. Even avid claw grip users were converted to use a full palm grip with this mouse and loved it. However, while the feeling and specs were top notch the scroll wheel sensor was total garbage. After replacing the mouse twice under warranty I finally returned it and got another mouse, Steel Series Sensei sounds familiar. I don't remember what it was but this to broke twice, and in the exact same way both times, so I returned that too. I do remember swapping it in for a Logitech something that also got returned to the shop. By now I was well known at that shop and the teller and I was going through possible alternatives. I was looking at QPAD as they had some mice that were physically pretty similar to the one that kicked off this adventure in mouse QC testing. He told me that they were decent but with my luck that probably wouldn't be enough. But the Mionix mice had almost no returns and the NAOS series were shaped almost like the QPAD mice. Well that last thing turned out to be not entirely true. So I bought the latest and greatest they had. The 8200 had been released just a few weeks ago and the only difference between it and the old model was the colors and the sensor. So I took a gamble that the quality would be the same. Now this mouse is just slightly smaller than I'd like. The M3, or what it was called, filled my palm better and had a slight shelve that kept my pinkie from dragging on the mouse surface. The palm swell also kept the base of my hand from touching the mouse surface which the NAOS not quite manages. However it was the closest I'd come and I gave it a chance and here I am, nine years later and still using the same mouse. I just took a look at it and apart from the skids being a bit worn it still looks like new, and all the switches still work perfectly with no sign of missing clicks or double clicking. It also have very low friction and almost no stiction. The only mouse I've had that slid better had ceramic skids instead of teflon, but this is about as good as it gets with regular skids. The only problem I had with this mouse was that it stopped working whenever I switched between machines using a KVM. Turned out I wasn't the only one and Mionix updated the firmware to solve the issue. After that I haven't had a single problem that I can blame on this mouse. So what would I look for in a new mouse? More of the same! The sensor isn't quite up there with the top performers today, so a light upgrade there wouldn't be unthinkable. The shape, while good, is not perfect. It could be just a bit larger with more pronounced finger groves and a shelf to keep the pinkie from dragging. Ceramic skids would be nice. A well placed "sniper" button would also be a welcome addition, though I figure those has fallen out of fashion in the last few years. As for side buttons, I have a hard time using them on any mouse, and yes I've had mice with a whole bunch of those and I concur with what's said in the video, they are just not as easy to use as you first think. I tried to learn but in the end it wasn't worth it for me. Perhaps it's worth it for diehard MMO players but other than that I think staying away from them is a good idea. But a single well placed button for the thumb that can be pressed without shifting the grip, now that I could learn to use. Edit: I checked and I've only had the mouse for a bit more than eight years, not nine as I wrote above. Sorry about that.
My Viper Mini is on the way, ordered it 4 days ago. Main deciding factor was price (40$ for top notch mouse is excellent and i got it for even lower - 29$), sensor, weight, cable and click latency (one of the lowest)
This is why I am using Steelseries Prime wireless. Ergonomic shape for better feel for gaming and normal use. No fancy rgb. Just 2 buttons on the side. This lets it to be just under 80grams for that light feel and of course bigger and longer battery life.
I used to buy a new mouse almost every year, but back then there weren't all these gaming products available. I simply bought based on ergonomics and appearance. My last gaming mouse was a Razer Uroboros. I liked it at first, but at some point the battery ran out, the thing literally ate up batteries and the buttons started creaking. Furthermore, the software annoyed me so much that I went back to using my old office mouse. I'm currently thinking about getting a gaming mouse again, but the prices are now astronomical.
1:30 yes, I did. I checked out his channel for the first time 8 years ago thanks to his Battlefield 4 videos. He just recently announced he leaves UA-cam.
G502 like every man and his dog. proteus core for 4 years; still pretty happy. the sliders need replacing, but the buttons are easy enough to find. weights were a gimick
I bought the Logitech g303 shroud after debating for weeks and it was absolutely worth it. Was using a Corsair glaive before and the 303 is so much lighter and wireless is just my favorite now
I also bought the g303 shroud edition coming from the g502 and the weight of the g303 is really low compared to the g502 and has increased my performance in game. I absolutely love the g303 and would recommend if your considering one
@@oscarcawthorne8776 the g502 is definitly on the heavy side. But u gotta love the features. Imo its more a productivity and price to feature king than an actual gaming mouse
@@oscarcawthorne8776 I am on a G700 rn since 9 years
I am debating wether I want to seap to the feature rich but lighter 502 or the effing fast 303
I will decide next week tho.
@@rocketracer111 I love both mice whatever you pick you will be happy
@@oscarcawthorne8776 I think in the end the G502 wins for me since I am used to the shape and using the many buttons.
I ordered a 303 for a test.
I am having my hands on a wired 502 for some days already and can confirm I like it, even if I still have to adjust to it.
I am excited what I will feel about the303 😂
This is a video I’ve been waiting so long for somebody to actually make. So many times have I had to explain all of these things to people when they’re looking for mice that fit them as I’m the tech guy in my group. Thank you so much for making my life easier by just being able to share this video instead of explaining it all time after time.
It's all about the shape! As long as the weight is reasonable the shape is pretty much all that matters. I also like wired because I'm lazy and don't want to ever think about charging. I love a simple mouse like the G203 (or whatever shape best fits you) maybe paracord it and install after market feet and you're good to go.
Even them Final mouse, Logitech and razer all have VERY similar shapes aswell.
You have some mice that only need charging once every several months. My current cheap mouse I've been using for like 8 years lasts like 1-2 years on 2 batteries and I use it a lot, every single day.
my favorite mouse was a bulky one from A4tech. forgot the name
@@nhojleahcim47 A4Tech OP-620D same for my gaming mouse i just need to replace the clicker with Kailh GM 8.0 clicker and good to go
some gaming mice like my razer basilisk x hyperspeed use AA battery, it's so simple to switch battery I can get a new one in in under 2 seconds. The wire is so annoying I once had to use a wired mouse it was not fun
somehow that little "look here" touch was just mindblowing and an absolute stroke of genius to me. kudos!!!
His face in the thumbnail though.
Didn't even notice help
It's the face of excitement
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If I’m being perfectly honest , I’m so happy with my G305 that I got for 35£, that I can’t recommend anything else. I did the AAA battery change making it 75 gm and it’s just a very good mouse.
Happy with G304(Asia market name of G305) also +1
Have you ever experienced DOUBLE CLICK ISSUES ?????
@@shivammajhi7979 Nope, no issues what so ever.. I’ve had mine for over a year now..
I agree! I bought the G305 looking for a good wireless mouse to use on the go. I ended up having it as my main mouse. The only feature I kind of miss is the side scrolling capacity for editing videos.
@@shivammajhi7979 Yeahh I started having this issue about a year and a half in :\
Been gaming with a mouse/keyboard for 20somewhat years now and the few times I have upgraded my mouse or been forced to replace it, its always came down to ergonomics above everything else for me. And this is not just if the mouse is comfortable for my grip but also the button placements and even the scroll wheel.. you won't believe how many sucky wheels there are.
After that I look for "features" but honestly there's so much bullshit they're trying to sell us it's unreal :P so yes a tip guide like this is great for new people and or those that are unsure.
The main thing a lot of mice reviewers often forget is that for a lot of us a mouse isn't just used for that one gaming session a day, it has to be comfortable for more than that.
I got my mouse at the 99cents store. Weighs around 30g and only costed me 5 dollars!
Lol seriously!? I’m gonna go buy it now lol
thats cap
Me too, except mine came with whiskers and when I tried plugging in a USB-C cable into its hole, it bit my finger
Sounds like you were overcharged by $4.01.
I just got a G pro wired and Deathadder 1800 at a thrift store for $7 combined lol
Been using a simple wired logitech G203 for several years now on my personal desktop PC. I didn't need anything crazy since I'm nowhere near a competitive gamer. it fits my hand and is super comfortable. Started seeing double click issues about a year ago, but just blowing out around the buttons does the trick. The only issue I actually have is the 2 side buttons are 2 far forward for my usual grip style and I've not been able to break that habit. For my work mouse I use a wireless Logitech M705. I like using wireless with a laptop. It's shape encourages a better grip on it for long periods of time working and you can "unlock" the wheel to get to the end of long documents or scroll past 1000s of lines of text in moments. This is really useful for my work as a support analyst.
This was me too, but I got it as a gift. It's honestly still a great mouse.
G203 is a classic IMO. When my last one died I just snagged another one on Amazon instead of spending a fortune on a more expensive mouse.
Been using the affordable viper mini for a year, and I am still absolutely love it. HIGHLY recommend for budget gaming FPS mice. It's a great mouse...
That's my main too. I use the mz1 occasionally for kicks and giggles but I love my viper mini.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I also just bought it, cant wait for delivery
I was using it too, loved it but then the sensor light just stopped turning on even tho it incurred no damages and the clicks were still working. Razer hasnt been caring about consistency :(
MX518 Legend for me. Had the original for 10+ years until it finally started acting up and was thrilled to get it again with modern internals.
Same here. I had the original for 10 years or so and now I'm using g402. Nevertheless I bought the new mx518 to serve as my work mouse
Just now watching this video but I’ve had mine for 15 years and still works great. Just the outside coating is worn off a bit.
I've used a G9x (and it's predecessor) for a long time and I still consider it one of the best simple mice, then I switched to a g900 chaos, which is one of my favorite mice ever made, since it allows wired or wireless, as well as customizable side-buttons (2/4/or none) and it's ambidextrous (which surprisingly makes it feel good even if you're right-handed).
But since I got a g600 for an mmo (to free up finger movement on the KB when you need to move and jump and use skills all at the same time), I've come to appreciate it so much more than any other mouse. I use it in games, for work, for everyday browsing, and even file operations; the third top button can act as a g-shift or whatever else you need, to effectively double the amount of commands. It's honestly tied with g900 for the best mouse I've ever used, and I've since bought 2 spares (cause from experience, things I like go out of production/stock faster than I can react). If there's one thing I really wish it had, it's the flywheel that both G9x and G900 have; it's inclusion would've made it my #1 bar none.
EDIT: I'd also add, I had the g502 as well, and it (and every other mouse with rubber-ish surface) is absolutely disgusting after a some use; that rubber crap they're coated with literally melts, and mine looks like I've ripped out a few holes where my fingers touched it all the time (claw grip here). If the shell is not made of plastic (or metal) I don't even look at it anymore. Heck, I'd pay a good premium if the shells/buttons were made of aluminium or similar non oxidizing metal.
I chose a Razer Viper Ultimate, because after looking at dozens and dozens of mice in detail and doing like a week worth of research, comparing reviews and whatnot, it kind of hit all boxes for me.
I wanted something mostly lightweight, not honeycomb-shaped, durable and wireless. I had scrolling issues with my past two mice (XM1r and Roccat Kone Air Pro) after not actually a long time. Before that in the past I of course had a Logitech G203 and (surprise surprise), it had a double-clicking issue after the warranty ran out. I manually bent a copper plate in the switch to fix it for a few months, but it eventually returned.
I gotta say, I've really had it with Logitech and after buying a G930, a G430, a G203 and a G910 in the past, which all had well-timed issues after the warranty expired (2+ years, I think), I won't be a returning customer anymore. The G930 had frequent disconnects, the G430 had its leather get flaky & sticky and fall off, staining everything around it. The G203 with its double-clicking issue and the G910 has such intentionally flimsy keycaps, it's crazy. Only 2 very milky flimsy plastic sticks that hold the keycaps in place. And of course the CTRL key broke off after 2 years with no individual replacement keycap for this particular one in sight. I'm much better served with an actually durable Redragon K556 that has been a great buy and it has lasted me many years already.
I've had it with Logitech. That's why the Superlight was no option for me. It ticked many of the right boxes, but I just know Logitech from experience.
Back in the day Logitech made fantastic and durable mice in the early 2000s. Not anymore.
I have viper ultimate and it's just made for smaller hands can't get any comfortable grip, any other Logitech mice would not stress my hands. Viper has only DeathAdder to offer.
I’ve had a viper ultimate for a long long time now and I can say that it is one of my most favorite mouse ever.
I have the razer viper ultimate, and its a life changer, I have normal size hands and game with a claw grip. Loving it sofar
I allso have viper ultimate but the size is is small for my hands but tracking is better than logitech G903 that i have in my main rig and G903 fit my hands better but is not perfect and quality is not so great because of the double cllick issue.
I had the Mercury RVU and it was hands down the most gorgeous mouse ever made. However, the hump height was just too low for me making it nearly impossible to feel stable with it.
My deciding factor with my last mouse was optical switches. I was so sick of having mice that eventually end up double clicking and I'm not about to waste time and money opening a mouse up and replacing switches myself. The only con was that I bought a Razer and I have to deal with this horrible Synapse software but yeah, no double-clicking and having that peace of mind is great. Looking to get the MM720 soon but I do hope they release a wireless version of that.
I don't think optical switches are really necessary. Yes it was a problem with older mice that had crappier switches, but all respectable companies have now equipped their mice with switches that will never double click.
@@bonanzabrandon6877 all mechanical switches will eventually double click
@@bonanzabrandon6877 Lmao tell that to my Pro X Superlight that started double clicking after 3 months of use.
@@bonanzabrandon6877 Xm1r, 3 months of school and gaming use, has double click issues, quite rare to happen, but it does still appear
@@bonanzabrandon6877 Man's just straight up making things up. My Model O started double clicking 6 months in while my Viper Mini is still going strong after a year.
3:13 note that that part particular chart shows a wireless mouse as the top scoring but in reality the viper 8k beats it, ali of optimum tech included that in that mouse's separate review
I have a Logitech M720 from Costco - branded as "Logitech Precision Pro Wireless Mouse". Normally $29.99 but I got in on sale for $19.99. It is a little heavy for gaming (135 g), but I love it for productivity. Very comfortable and a lot of options. I have the scroll wheel tilt setup to change virtual desktops left or right, and have two of the left side buttons setup for copy and paste.
Got the Model D wireless a couple months ago. Was mainly looking for a big wireless mouse but still on the lighter side. So far it's been good, the only knock I give it is the short battery life.
Mine lasts for about a week of gaming. So I'm pretty happy with that
Glorious has worse battery life than others on the market, but it's only stark when the LEDs are enabled. My Model O has 4x if not more battery life with them off.
I was debating between staying on my model o and buying a wireless replacement, so I decided to spend a little on a g304 and try the idea out. The freedom is great and now every family member is using one. I found myself liking the shape more than my model o so I'm not sure if I want to eventually upgrade anymore.
Shape was #1 when I chose my mouse. Then Wireless, then Qi charging.
Having embedded three Qi chargers in my desk underneath my deskmat, allows me to wirelessly charge my keyboard and mouse without any signs of cables on my desk and without the need of ever pluging in. It's awesome!
Plugged a mini-USB Qi charging adapter into my wireless keyboard and taped it underneath, so that it always charges. My mouse just lives on the Qi-charger when not in use. Only time I ever plug them in is for firmware updates.
-Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE
-Corsair K63 (Qi-mod + switch lube and case dampening)
Logitec MX Master 2s all the way for productivity.
the last time i bought a mouse was in like 2016, i'm not really a gamer but my primary focus was having buttons i could program for cut/copy/paste/del/undo/redo, for editing purposes. not gonna lie i completely forget undo and redo are on there, but the rest have been crucial for speeding up workflow. definitely important for future mouse purchases.
I bought a G305 back in March 2021 and have loved it for both work and gaming. The DPI switch is actually REALLY useful for grabbing precise (to the pixel) screenshots at work. I loved it so much that I bought a second one when it looked like we might be going back to the office (yay omicron!) so I could just keep one there. I’ll recommend the G305 to anyone.
Still using my G305 right now, but got the dreaded double click not long after I bought a second for my mom. Pretty much all my Logitech mice now have double click (except for my G9 Laser, which sadly died on me (presumably the laser)). And Logitech build quality and testing seems to be getting worse.
My G305 has started acting up in all sorts of ways over the years. Most recently it's got connection issues that seem to be hardware based (the LED light keeps flickering whenever it happens). The double click only happens with the side buttons for me but it's still annyoing.
Steelseries Prime Mini Wireless user here. Absolutely love it. Those clicks.....Perfection!!
Honestly, I've had a G502 for years now and after trying a couple of these newer really light mice I still prefer it. Biggest things for me are comfort and useful features which the G502 does amazingly for me. Really think I'll just be going for the wireless version once my current mouse kicks it.
I had the G502 (still have it somewhere, actually) and now have 3 x G502 Lightspeed. Yes, 3 units of the same mouse. It is THAT good, the wireless version improves on every aspect of the wired version, and the shape and button placement of the G502 is just perfect. I had the G902 and G703 Lightspeed and didn't like them as much, so I sold them. Keyboard and mouse are among the most important components in your daily usage of a PC, it's just not worth it to cheap out on something I use every single day for so many hours. I also have the G915 Lightspeed KB and the Logitech Powerplay charging mouse pad...it's freaking genius. Bought it very cheap though, the pad is not worth it at the official retail price, too pricy. Cheers.
I have the wireless one. best investment ever.
If u dont need the features the g305 is a very tempting choice for you too ;) much lighter especially is u use it with an AAA and an aluminium ball for the space filling
@@suppar8066 has to be somethng like the G502 for me sadly. I do use pretty much all of the additional functionality of the mouse.
I returned mine because I don't like the smooth texture of the mice
The texture and durability of the exterior is really important. I see the old G9X with the precision shell as a gold standard. I really avoid materials that will get gummy over time, like what happened to to my G502.
I have a 5 year old G502, that shits looking a bit rough on the rubber.
bro g502 is like 4kg
Yes, the rubber does eventually wear out. I have one that literally started shedding pieces. That's why when I finally have to replace one of G502s, I buy two, just in case it's ever discontinued.
@@snstar3321 I have similar old G602 which slowly starts to play tricks. Except that it after all these years hats the best mouse I ever had :)
The G9 was the best I would’ve loved that they continued and improved on it.
I’ve got a logitech g305 and i just loved it
It really suits my hand. And it is even quite good for productive usage because of g shift
Switched from my 5 years old G503 to the Sensei Ten and it was the best choice ever. Its so clean, light and comfortable!
Went for the Logitech G604 because I used the G602 and I liked the heft and size for my hand. It's definitely not for competitive gaming but it's comfortable and very useful for work as well (side to side wheel scroll plus zero friction vertical scroll are amazing if you deal with a lot of documents and excel sheets)
fellow G602 user
Same here but unfortunately my boy is diminishing and needs replacement :(
I got a Razer Deathadder, mainly because it fits perfectly in my hand, and after 5 years can't be more satisfied, it's precise and comfortable. And as stated in the video, i tried the various DPI settings in the beginning, chose one, and been using it ever since.
I was using a Logitech G502 wireless for a Year, I was really happy until double click issues showed up.... so I made a lot of research and I bought a Cooler Master M720 (wired) and I'm really happy with the change... M720 is like having nothing in my hand... I really love how I feel it while I play (FPS). Maybe I miss some extra buttons that the G502 has but I wont return to G502... not for gamming.
only thing i miss from my 502 is the scroll unlock button.
I bought a Logitech G900 years and years ago. Never failed, always good on Battery and Latency etc - best fit for my hand and the G-Hub software isn't a problem. I turn all the 'Gimmick' RGB rubbish off, saves battery life. I am an Avid Gamer and play at least 3-4 hours a day (damn work getting in the way). Great review, absolutely spot on with the advice :)
I’ve had a lot of different mice over the years and I have stuck with a Deathadder, even if it gets beaten in a lot of categories. Why? Shape, it’s just perfect for my hands and I’ve found that to be the single most important thing on a mouse for me. I did felt it was a bit heavier compared to others I had, then I went to the gym and problem solved 😂😂
G305 for the crazy lightweight mods... adjusted to the size & I'm in love with mines ❤️
I love my razor basilisk v3. It isn’t the lightest but I love the grip and the extra buttons that I actually use
That transition to sponsor message was amazing! Kudos!
One of the absolute, most invaluable mouse features I've ended up loving after trying is infinite scrolling/free spinning. Seriously, I didn't know how much I needed it in my life until I got a Logitech or a more recent Basilisk v3.. I can't go back now. It's over for me.
You are legend finally a guy understand gaming, does research, understand grip styles and hand difffers so needs differs. And credits to a ninja rocket guy that does measurement site.
As someone who thought he'd never get away from the original Wingman Gaming Mouse I have now successfully transitioned to the MM720 and I absolutely love it. The cable is incredible.
I am very tempted though in trying the infamous MZ1 - just not sure yet if "wanting to try" is worth the price for me. They don't sell very well used here in my country so might as well buy one from somebody with the same idea/approach and not lose a lot of money in case I don't like it.
Hey have you gotten to try it yet? Curious on what you thought of it cause I bought one and I’m waiting for it to come in lmaon
finally a review worth watching. Valid points . Hope players take it on board. I bought a Logitec G Pro hero wired one. Paid 40 box for it. It has a classic design. No fancy buttons and lights or extra weights (like G502 which is far more expensive) and this is the best mouse I've played games with. layout in hand is perfect and has the same sensor as more expensive ones . All these fancy RGB lights and buttons has no effect whatsoever on your gaming performance neither on how accurate and consistent the mouse is in tracking ( which is the most important part in gaming ) .
when i went from my logitech g500 to a g502 i was so mad at the fact i couldn't anymore adjust my x/y dpi like i was able to previously. Being able to have different dpi for each axes is in my opinion one of the most underestimate feature for ergonomics and hand health...
The Form in conformance to my hand, is, and will always be My deciding factor in choosing a mouse.
If you’ve got the money, I really recommend the viper ultimate. It so light and the weight is spread well over the mouse. And the recharge dock is really nice and you won’t ever forget to charge the mouse. But the biggest pro about the mouse is how smooth the mouse moves and how smooth the laser is, mixed with the fastest mouse buttons it’s just an overall great mouee!
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@@therealdealoneill np!
My number 1 source for hardware reviews, especially mice/headsets. TY for the detailed and consistent content.
Features meant for gaming can also be dead useful for productivity! Reprogrammable buttons and macro buttons are both great for doing things in complicated software programs that rely on lots of keyboard shortcuts for the fastest workflow. Macros can be used outside of games for doing tedious simple tasks like copying a list of number values from a text document, using them for a calculation with the calculator app, and then pasting them into a table or another list somewhere. Provided you know the appropriate desktop keyboard shortcuts for navigating around the operating system and the specific programs you are using.
I despise mice that have navigation buttons for backward and forward history browsing, which don't let you change them, and are easy to press by accident. They can very easily lead to catastrophe if you're doing work in an odd web app in a browser, and the app doesn't have an auto save feature. Just one history back action, and it can erase all the work you have done for potentially hours.
Yeah, reprogrammable buttons are mvp. I had a mouse with the dpi change button, reprogrammed into something useful that I use all the time.
Now THAT was a helpful review. Giving us the information we can use to work through our decisions is far more valuable to a consumer than someone just giving their personal ranking. Though, having more information like this can probably make those ranking lists more useful.
I played with an old razer Naga for years. But when it was finally time to get a new one I again chose Razer Naga, this time Naga trinity. It feels so natural to my hand. So light, and balanced.
I have Razer Basilisk X. I love this mouse. Using a mouse and not worrying about its cable feels great!
Went for the G304 wireless instead of the G102 since in the long run I could really benefit having a wireless mouse with less clutter on the table, no more issues with the wire beginning to break and to add the fact that the latency and sensor is really good for gaming competitively
Should I get the G304? Or look for other options?
@@dookie7299 well it depends on you bro, if you have the budget or wanna try wireless for a change its really good since it has the same performance as other top grade Logitech mice.
Just think of it as an investment..
@@sesu5543 I went to Micro Center and got the G502 wired instead. It was about the same price but it fit my hand better. I like it a lot, and I think I might try out the G304 in the future. Hopefully they make a wired one.
Rival 3 shape, size, scrolling wheel and RGB + PMW 3360 sensor + good and light cable or wireless + Logitech G Pro side buttons = perfection!
Love my g502 wireless, best mouse I’ve ever used.
Just bought the G502 wireless and powerplay mouse pad, it is SICK! Used to play on the wired version before!
I've been using some version of the Razer naga for about 10 years, and honestly I couldn't use any other mouse. I never played PC games before then, and I do play MMO, but since then I've played other games and I'm just so used to binding functions in game to it, and not elsewhere on my keyboard, I would have to re-learn how I play games on PC.
The main things I wanted from my mouse was for it to be super light but without that honeycomb shell cus I didn't like the idea of gunk buildup/potentially getting something stuck inside. So I went with a Razer Viper (wired) cus that seemed like the best bet.
I'll be honest, I wish the side buttons were a bit bigger/protruded a little more, and I'm still not 100% loving the slightly mushier click from their special switches. I can definitely get over the mushy thing tho because you really don't notice it after a while and it's great to not worry about double-clicking.
I think my ideal mouse is the newer Deathadder cus I loved that shape and they went and made it much lighter + all the benefits of the newer switch, but I can't really justify the change for now
As a non-competitive gamer that doesn't even like "twitch-reaction-times" gaming, but work a lot with my PC, nothing beats ye good olde reliable Logitech M100.
No RBG.
No gamer bling.
No many buttons festival.
No in-your-face big "gamer geek" logo.
No weird geeky immature look.
No background app.
No hour wasted on configuration.
No tons of holes supposedly to save weight but actually meaning "this is a dust collector".
A simple shape that just fits.
It just works.
End of story.
Gotta love it.
for me the roccat nyth is still the best mmo mice .the arrangement of the side buttons and the switch+ makes this mice sooo good that i m unable to switch to any other mice .
i'm pretty mind blown. the logic behind raising the dpi to max and adjusting the cursor in game is mind blowing.
The mouse I wish for:
- G502 wireless without rgb running on AA batteries as with high endurance on G603 (or standard rechargeable lithium cells - the point is that the batt is easily bought and replaced when it dies);
- Same rubberized mouse wheel like on the wireless version, preferably easily replaceable when the rubber coating wears down, also for the side rubber grips;
- Hotswap switches, including the middle mouse button that is currently that annoying tiny domed microswitch - I use it often and it's risky to replace it when it dies.
I can dream, can't I.
g pro x superlight and it's amazing, no gimmicks, no rgb, wireless and very lightweight. it's hard to go back to heavier and/or wired mice now.
Still rocking the g502 wireless and the Logitech charging mouse pad. Never have to change a battery or plug it in and I have just enough buttons to do everything I need to
I love the buttons on the side! Even though I'm only using it so I don't take my hand off the mouse when playing Star Wars: The Old Republic (just got back into it lol). Worth it for me.
Mistake #1 Spending more than $20 on one.
Nooooooooooooo just spent 25
I have an Logitech G500 since 2013 basically every day, several hours a day...
Droped this mouse several times... The cable is worn (very worn), but still works fine. VERY used mouse i must say.
I also have an Logitech Keyboard (i think it´s something between 2005-2007 at max). It´s so worn that most of the keys dont have the letters, and shines of so much abuse, lol
The A button, brakes underneath, but still function (dont have click pressure, but works fine).
Love the brand for durability, and for what i know, the support is very good too.
I had several mice throughout my life and eventually I got back to my beloved Razer Deathadder, this time in the form of the new V2 X Hyperspeed. Before I used the Logitech G Pro Wireless but my hands are just too big, even with using claw grip style, it wasnt comfortable enough for me. Knowing the Deathadder was perfect back in the day and also the 2010 edition, I got the newest version and it just feels like home! Now even with the awesome freedom that wireless technology offers :)
I just got the Aerox 9 wireless because I wanted a big mouse to use with excellent battery life. Im not a MMO gamer but man does it feel good in the hands.
I bought the g 403 hero wired and after 3 years I dont need to change it I have been using it 24/24 7/7 and it works Wonders !
Good Video! Thanks Dmiitry! Two years ago, I bought a Logitech G305 wireless mouse which Linus love. But that's after he changed the battery's weight which balanced and lightened it. So I bought the mouse and did the same. Got the lighter lithium batteries and ordered AAA lithium battery sleeves. Yeah, good idea. I love the mouse for six months. Then it started to double click. So changed the switches. I use to think Omron was the best but after I changed to Kailh, I've had over a year of good gaming, good production work.
I just bought the Razer Viper Mini and am very happy.
I have relatively small hands and I find it very comfortable.
Plus it׳s dirt cheap for what you get, I picked it up for 30$ on Amazon.
I bought the hyperx haste a few months back. I have seen youtube videos about reviewers complaining that it has a cheap sensor which is known to have liftoff distance problem. But in these few months of use, I simply can't complain. I'm a casual gamer and average skills who love playing valorant and CSGO. I usually buy budget peripherals, and have owned steelseries rival 100, rival 110, logitech g102. I bought a mm720 which started having issues. Returned it and got hyperx haste instead and it's the best mouse I have had ever. I know that I have had only budget mice, but I have zero complaints. The shape is good, no spinoff and liftoff problems for me. It's priced well and performs great. The build quality is reasonable too, no squeeks and creeks. I was skeptical that the internals of the mouse will be covered with dust in a few months but I don't see anything, says a lot because I live in North India, where dust is an issue.
Factors that I look at when buying a mouse: 1) Weight 60g or less is ideal, if it's over 70g that's a dealbreaker and I won't buy. 2) Size and shape, if a mouse is too small it will cramp my hands, if it's too big it won't feel like I have as precise of an aim as I want. No extreme shapes (sorry Kone Pro Air).
My main mouse is the G Pro X Superlight and it will take an impressive mouse to dethrone it, Finalmouse Starlight 12 phantom is close 2nd place for me.
I currently have a Razer Mamba Elite and it has been great to use with my quite big hands. It is also really comfortable for different grip styles and for just casual stuff when you have to write or just scroll through the internet.
Love my G600, I do play mostly MMOs with keyboard and mouse and almost all other games via a Controller. So, the extra buttons help me map out my hotbars much better for all of my skills in a MMO.
Yeah, Dmitry's point about the side buttons is just self reporting that he doesn't play any MMOs.
MMO mouse are great for non-gaming use.
I assign volume controls, zoom, alt tabbing, desktop switching the fly without having to take your hand off the mouse, use both hands to reach ctrl windows left/right.
In fact, 12 isn't enough. Logitech as a Gshift button, which when holding down allows you to bind 12 more actions to the same buttons. And I used all of those.
MMO mice are amazing, even for MMOs.
When I game I usually have youtube running as well & that dpi button is important to toggle back & fort with as usually play shooters 400 dpi game then I switch over to my 2nd monitor 1440p to click something and that needs atleast 1000+ dpi to do quickly then go back 400 dpi on the game so that DPI button is a must have use cases like mine
All gaming mice from reputable brands will have good internals (sensor, PCB). What I look for now is how other factors of the mice allow me to use it well:
1. Shape
2. Switches/buttons
3. Skates
4. (If wired) cable
2-4 are adjustable with after market modding. So shape is the thing I look for.
To simplify the video, if you want an MMO mouse, get a mouse with many side buttons like the Razer Naga and other brands with products alike. If you want an FPS mouse, you need a comfortable mouse with a tight grip for your finger tips, for this go for any textured mouse with deep slopes on the buttons like the Razer Viper or other mice alike it. If you want a productivity mouse, go for the MX master 3 from Logitech. If you want a mouse to fit all needs, since i am a Razer fan, I'd go for the basilisk V3, look at the basilisk V3 for why I chose it and choose another mouse that has similar features to it if you don't like Razer.
Spent months trying new shapes, weights and sizes (GPX, RVU, MZ1, M42) to upgrade from my wired Xtrfy M4, only to go back to where I started and get the M4 Wireless :)
I have a favorite mouse that is 20 years old and have never found another to take its place. the shape and buttons and everything are just what i like.. wish i would have bought two of them..
The last time I got a mouse it was around a year and a half ago.
I got the Razer DeathAdder V2, just because of the reviews that were praising it and because I knew it would fit my style since I had owned a BenQ EC2-B before that, so the shapes were quite similar, being more aggressive on the curves on the DeathAdder V2.
Now, I've realized I want something better for claw grip and maybe a bit lighter, combined with a better mousepad since the one I've been running has been purchased for 5$ and it really shows it's not the best.
I have had 3 g502, all of them broke due to the cable. Got the g903, double click issues. Got the mz1, cable broke, replaced with aftermarket. Got the razer orochi and put triple A's in it. Found that the egg was just the best for me. Comfortable, lightweight, wireless, long battery life, reliable, and customizable. Oh and right after I found that out, I found I had windows acceleration on. Went into a game or two after warming up, was headshotting everyone. I quit playing seriously after that day. Deleted all but the two games I play with friends.
I have an MMO mouse and now, I swear by having at least 4 easy-to-reach extra mouse buttons. Granted, not everyone likes it like I do, so yeah, still recommend people think through whether they really will use it.
WHY HAS THIS GUY USED SO MANY MOUSES. EXTREMELY HELPFUL THOUGH GREAT VIDEEO
I bought Tecware Exo L+ because it's quite cheap. It doesn't have fancy features like Razer Naga, or wireless. It doesn't try to be advertised as the best mouse. It's just there and I bought it. My first mouse and my current favourite.
Your channel is such an all time mvp. I just shared this to my social media. Letting everyone know what's up and who's who
My deciding factors for a mouse are the durability, and the amount of buttons. 2 side buttons is not enough. 12 is too many. 4 is ideal. I got the steelseries rival 5 cause it has 5. I prefer 2 DPI buttons; sadly this only has 1. However, it claims 3x durability compared to most mouse switches I have used. It isn't my perfect mouse, but it is good. My perfect mouse would have four identical side buttons, the two DPI buttons, and would be maybe a teeny tiny touch lighter than the rival 5.
I'm personally a fingertip gripper who, as of late, has become interested in finding a mouse with a control nub (like the ones found on the Nintendo 3DS for example) or d-pad where my right thumb would be (plus another on the opposite side which my ring finger could use), to mimic the kinds of joysticks found on DualShock-styled controllers (as typically used in game consoles), so that I could opt to move the character with said control stick or d-pad on the mouse instead of the WASD or arrow keys on the keyboard.
An extra button, mouse wheel, analog control nub, or d-pad in front of or behind where the left, right, and middle mouse buttons would normally be would also be nice, since my fingertip-grip style allows for me to use my flexible fingers to move between buttons as needed, much like moving between buttons on a controller.
I bought a g pro superlight, after weeks of research it just turned out to be the best mouse i could have wished for! My old and loved g203 doesn’t stand a chance against it
Brilliant round up Dimitri. For those using Logitech G hub... Remove it and use the portable onboard memory manager instead! No more useless bloat.
Razer Naga Pro and Razer Basilisk V3 are my choice for ultra gaming and productivity. Cheers!
Last mouse I bought was the Roccat Tyon, only bought it as my Cyborg MMO7 sensor died and the button layout was as close as I could get. Got it around 5 years ago now, still going strong.
Been tired with double clicking mouse within months, finally got a Rog Keris wireless with hot swappable switches, really well built, never look back to any Logitech mouse.
Razer Deathadder for years now - love it.
I bought the g602 sinply because it looks better and man do i not regret it. Great big heavy mouse.
**As I sit here setting up my soldering iron so i can de-solder my Glorious Model D's switcches to swap them with some Kailh GM 4.0 reds** "WHAT?? There's mice that offer Hot-Swap functionalities????????" Despite that, I absolutely love my Model D. So much so i decided to get the D-. Not sure why not having a problem with my Model D. But figured i'd run it for a while and os far i love it! Glorious is super underrated to me i also have their GMMK TKL and i absolutely love it. I lubed the switches and clipped and lubed the stabs and it is a superb board for being a prebuilt. I also definitely plan on getting the GMMK Pro and building something a little nicer.
i sold off a dozen of mice and revert back to my old Asus Gladius 2 and Logitech MX Master 3 mouse. I realised the shape of the mouse to our palm, the grip should be the first criteria to choose a mouse, not weight. I also use grip tape on both mice. Well thats me.
Last time I bought a mouse? Oh that takes me back almost ten years. Yep that's right, I've been using the same mouse, a Mionix NAOS 8200, for the last nine years and change...
Buying this particular mouse was the result of testing a lot of mice and having a lot of problems with the quality of the components. It's all started with me buying a mouse that was the most comfortable and probably the best over all mouse I've ever owned. Now this might sound strange, but I can't recall the brand, just that the model was called M3 or 3M. It was marketed by a brand that a long time ago was known for their mouse surfaces, disappeared from the market and then many years later came back but now with a mouse instead of a new mouse mat. This mouse was large and many ridiculed it for it's size, but most reviewers ended up loving it. Even avid claw grip users were converted to use a full palm grip with this mouse and loved it.
However, while the feeling and specs were top notch the scroll wheel sensor was total garbage. After replacing the mouse twice under warranty I finally returned it and got another mouse, Steel Series Sensei sounds familiar. I don't remember what it was but this to broke twice, and in the exact same way both times, so I returned that too. I do remember swapping it in for a Logitech something that also got returned to the shop.
By now I was well known at that shop and the teller and I was going through possible alternatives. I was looking at QPAD as they had some mice that were physically pretty similar to the one that kicked off this adventure in mouse QC testing. He told me that they were decent but with my luck that probably wouldn't be enough. But the Mionix mice had almost no returns and the NAOS series were shaped almost like the QPAD mice. Well that last thing turned out to be not entirely true.
So I bought the latest and greatest they had. The 8200 had been released just a few weeks ago and the only difference between it and the old model was the colors and the sensor. So I took a gamble that the quality would be the same. Now this mouse is just slightly smaller than I'd like. The M3, or what it was called, filled my palm better and had a slight shelve that kept my pinkie from dragging on the mouse surface. The palm swell also kept the base of my hand from touching the mouse surface which the NAOS not quite manages. However it was the closest I'd come and I gave it a chance and here I am, nine years later and still using the same mouse. I just took a look at it and apart from the skids being a bit worn it still looks like new, and all the switches still work perfectly with no sign of missing clicks or double clicking. It also have very low friction and almost no stiction. The only mouse I've had that slid better had ceramic skids instead of teflon, but this is about as good as it gets with regular skids.
The only problem I had with this mouse was that it stopped working whenever I switched between machines using a KVM. Turned out I wasn't the only one and Mionix updated the firmware to solve the issue. After that I haven't had a single problem that I can blame on this mouse.
So what would I look for in a new mouse?
More of the same! The sensor isn't quite up there with the top performers today, so a light upgrade there wouldn't be unthinkable. The shape, while good, is not perfect. It could be just a bit larger with more pronounced finger groves and a shelf to keep the pinkie from dragging. Ceramic skids would be nice. A well placed "sniper" button would also be a welcome addition, though I figure those has fallen out of fashion in the last few years. As for side buttons, I have a hard time using them on any mouse, and yes I've had mice with a whole bunch of those and I concur with what's said in the video, they are just not as easy to use as you first think. I tried to learn but in the end it wasn't worth it for me. Perhaps it's worth it for diehard MMO players but other than that I think staying away from them is a good idea. But a single well placed button for the thumb that can be pressed without shifting the grip, now that I could learn to use.
Edit: I checked and I've only had the mouse for a bit more than eight years, not nine as I wrote above. Sorry about that.
Ergonomics is like the number one deciding factor for me when buying a gaming mouse after that comes the sensor.
My Viper Mini is on the way, ordered it 4 days ago. Main deciding factor was price (40$ for top notch mouse is excellent and i got it for even lower - 29$), sensor, weight, cable and click latency (one of the lowest)
Honestly the selection of mice is very good now.
This is why I am using Steelseries Prime wireless. Ergonomic shape for better feel for gaming and normal use. No fancy rgb. Just 2 buttons on the side. This lets it to be just under 80grams for that light feel and of course bigger and longer battery life.
I used to buy a new mouse almost every year, but back then there weren't all these gaming products available. I simply bought based on ergonomics and appearance. My last gaming mouse was a Razer Uroboros. I liked it at first, but at some point the battery ran out, the thing literally ate up batteries and the buttons started creaking. Furthermore, the software annoyed me so much that I went back to using my old office mouse. I'm currently thinking about getting a gaming mouse again, but the prices are now astronomical.
1:30 yes, I did. I checked out his channel for the first time 8 years ago thanks to his Battlefield 4 videos. He just recently announced he leaves UA-cam.
G502 like every man and his dog. proteus core for 4 years; still pretty happy. the sliders need replacing, but the buttons are easy enough to find. weights were a gimick