How ECM Controls Cooling Fans

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  • Опубліковано 12 кві 2018
  • How ECM Controls Cooling Fans describes the relationship between the ECM and the FAN control module. This same principle is used to control blower motors and fuel pumps.
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  • @danwoodson2384
    @danwoodson2384 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for putting the waveforms in this video; very helpful!

  • @8power0
    @8power0 6 років тому +2

    VERY GOOD VIDEO PLEASE DO MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE I HAVE LEARNT A LOT FROM IT THESE ARE THE VIDEOS THAT ARE VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME .

  • @danysperez-carrillo6630
    @danysperez-carrillo6630 3 роки тому +1

    Thankyou for posting this diagram. I had an axillary switch and it drains the battery.
    I DIY everything back to oem using your diagram video and was able to connect my fan module. Thanks

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  3 роки тому

      Great, glad my vids were able to help you out. autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com

  • @technocris1
    @technocris1 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

  • @shad0wburn3d
    @shad0wburn3d 6 років тому +1

    good video! also, what software do you guys use for the old/new narration of txt? thanks!

  • @arslanrajput8020
    @arslanrajput8020 6 років тому

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  • @rolanddejesus8685
    @rolanddejesus8685 Рік тому

    excellent sir...

  • @arslanrajput8020
    @arslanrajput8020 6 років тому +1

    Very nice video 👍👍👍

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      +arslan rajpoot ,😎 thanks

  • @bundylovess
    @bundylovess 6 років тому +1

    Love these types of videos big thumbs up 👍

  • @bluedeckelectronics
    @bluedeckelectronics 4 місяці тому

    Good !

  • @jgeorges3061
    @jgeorges3061 6 років тому

    Good video and info as always thank you for sharing. cheeeeeeers

    • @mutebijovan7835
      @mutebijovan7835 4 роки тому +1

      Video was cool, thanks u pipo r making our thru👏

  • @frfr8130
    @frfr8130 3 роки тому

    Hi, thank you for the video. Can one use say a Temp switch (thermostat in oil radiator) to output the signal to the module to control the speed of the fan?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  3 роки тому

      It's best to use an Arduino for that. See my Arduino videos on this channel.

  • @bongdan
    @bongdan 4 роки тому

    so what you do if you dont have this performant machinery to test the module, im sure most of viewers dont have this so can you replicate the pwm signal trough a rc radio receiver ? they work on pwm signal, was curious if I can have same result.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  4 роки тому

      If you don't have this unit you end up replacing the parts. If that doesn't solve your issue, then your loss. If you work on your own car or are a professional technician, then you need your tools. Here it is in case you need it.
      www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

  • @abufaisal2199
    @abufaisal2199 2 роки тому

    So the yellow wire is get signal from the temperature sensor?

  • @vin605
    @vin605 6 років тому

    Cool !

  • @Robert-1948
    @Robert-1948 Рік тому

    Thank you for your excellent presentation. I have a 2005 Mazda MPV ES. The radiator cooling fan it's a dual fan system. One of the fan not working, the other it is OK. The fan that doesn't working has 4 wires. How to test that fan with 4 wires to make sure it's bad?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  Рік тому

      U need a wiring diagram and identify those wires.

  • @oscarcrespo9365
    @oscarcrespo9365 4 роки тому

    I have cuestion please sr. I have a DS 213 mini osciloscopio and I am just wondering if it would be possible to use the "waveform generator" function to put frequency or to do something similar like PWM. I am not totally sure about it. Thank you for this video tutorial.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  4 роки тому

      No, a waveform generator will never give you PWM. Not even a 555 timer will give you PWM. Pulse width modulation needs a dedicated circuit. See my PWM BI Directional Controller .
      www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  4 роки тому

      On top of it, this unit has a huge driver transistor to boot. Control almost anything with it.
      www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

  • @ELHADJIRA
    @ELHADJIRA Рік тому

    good explain I need thanks prof

  • @DennisGentry
    @DennisGentry 3 роки тому

    This is great -- it let me confirm what I was guessing about this dumb FCM which seems to give out regularly. I'm thinking of interpreting the PWM with an arduino-like microcontroller and driving my own big fat super-low-resistance FETs to run the fans.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  3 роки тому +2

      That'll definitely work just fine. In fact I have an Arduino project here just like that. Look it up.

  • @TownsvilleSpy
    @TownsvilleSpy 6 років тому

    I'm hoping to use one of these Fan control modules in an older car. Can i hook the trigger wire to a temp sender or override switch if i don't have an ecm?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      Yes, to a temp SWITCH, not a sensor. The switch has to be calibrated to say 180 deg F. This is s typical fan turn on temp.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому +1

      Also, see my series on Arduino. You can do all that with a $10 Arduino.

    • @TownsvilleSpy
      @TownsvilleSpy 6 років тому

      Thank you for the information. Do you happen to know what continuous amp rating these are suitable for?

    • @gokogoko2877
      @gokogoko2877 9 місяців тому

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  • @florentviolleau6716
    @florentviolleau6716 4 роки тому

    @adptraining how does the second channel is working ? how to trigger channe 1 and channel 2 with 2 temperature levels ?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  4 роки тому

      Channels 1 and 2...?????
      What do you mean.

    • @florentviolleau6716
      @florentviolleau6716 4 роки тому

      @@ADPTraining you have 2 output channels on the controller, to manage 2 Fans

    • @DennisGentry
      @DennisGentry 3 роки тому

      @@florentviolleau6716 That particular Fan Control Module (Gates FCM102 is an aftermarket version, can't find the Calsonic Kansei original) doesn't output different signals for the two fans. The two two-pin connectors, one on the bottom, one on the side, are so it can control two fans, but they both get the same voltage. Check the block diagram and explanation at 1:12.

  • @laurenceleeroceta8772
    @laurenceleeroceta8772 6 років тому +1

    Hello im asking that pwm bi directional controller is for sale. If for sale where can buy. Thank you

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      +Laurence Lee Roceta www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      +Laurence Lee Roceta ok, click this link for the PWM Bi Controller...
      www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      +Laurence Lee Roceta www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому

      +Laurence Lee Roceta www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/pulse_width_pwm_controller_driver.html

  • @HOANGUYEN-uf4vm
    @HOANGUYEN-uf4vm 2 роки тому

    Please advice how to test the fan control module is working or not, can we use multimeter to check that ? . Thank you

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  2 роки тому

      Yes you can

    • @HOANGUYEN-uf4vm
      @HOANGUYEN-uf4vm 2 роки тому

      @@ADPTraining Thank you for reply, you should make a UA-cam showing how to test the fan control module by a simple way, multi meter (which everyone have), that will be very useful and many people will watch it.

  • @namenotshown9277
    @namenotshown9277 Рік тому

    I have mitsubishi outlander 2003 ( first model), used this module.
    Fans not working, I suspect control module but find that carbon brushes inside fan motors have worn down to zero and commutator damaged in the process.
    Car has 220,000km assume original fans, so can expect fans brushes to need replace around 200,000km. I have not yet tried control unit on new fans so dont know if it has damage also. Fan motors not really designed to take apart but can do fairly easily just by
    bend out metal where its pressed in on rear of motor.
    Regarding video, excellent info, would be interesting to see what signal the ecu of a car actually outputs to control the fan, that pulsing of the motor speed at certain on/off percentages of the pwm I would doubt is used by ecu, I dont think the fans pulse the speeds in a car.......I could be wrong.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  Рік тому

      A 2003 is an older car. That's ON and OFF circuit.

    • @namenotshown9277
      @namenotshown9277 Рік тому

      @@ADPTraining thanks for reply but its exact same controller using variable speed

  • @sf7760
    @sf7760 3 роки тому +1

    Sir ,, if the fan is prematurely engaged. Is it the premature signal from ECU? Or the module is bad?
    Share ur opinion sir..
    Thanks

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  3 роки тому +1

      Prematurely? Well, it could be either. But in real life if premature it's probably a module problem. autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com

    • @sf7760
      @sf7760 3 роки тому

      @@ADPTraining thank you for reply

  • @tyronenelson9124
    @tyronenelson9124 6 років тому +1

    I always thought that the air con controller is built into the ecm?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  6 років тому +1

      The ECM controls the compressor clutch.

  • @mdmetallica26
    @mdmetallica26 Рік тому

    Could this work as a replacement of another fcm of another car for example a volvo?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  Рік тому +1

      Yes, but have to rewire.

    • @mdmetallica26
      @mdmetallica26 Рік тому

      @@ADPTraining thank you so much. Actually i think is the same wireing because 2 big cables are for power and ground and a 3th for signal.

  • @karanfix8453
    @karanfix8453 5 років тому +1

    Is possible to control the fan from inside the car what should i use

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    @reneb1175rene 6 років тому

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    @user-nq1fg1ix1z 5 років тому +1

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  • @W.Khairi
    @W.Khairi 3 роки тому

    Your videos r much better now since u dont use computer generated voice

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    @maar5725 5 років тому +1

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  • @georgesnow716
    @georgesnow716 2 роки тому

    Cooling fans stop working mechanic said ecm replace with new flash one, later down the line unplug battery cooling fans stop working again help please

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  2 роки тому

      Reflash won't solve you issue.

  • @derekhobbs1102
    @derekhobbs1102 Рік тому

    I've recently replaced two of these fan control modules on my car. First the factory one failed after fifteen years, then the non genuine replacement failed within two months, so I spent $388 to get a new genuine Mitsubishi unit.

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  Рік тому

      Sure, OEM is the way to go. Non of these aftermarket electrical parts work at all.

  • @alejandrochavez7528
    @alejandrochavez7528 8 місяців тому

    And how we can increase the speed of the fan?

    • @ADPTraining
      @ADPTraining  8 місяців тому

      Two ways, resistor pack and PWM CONTROL.

  • @user-er8kp5pk5v
    @user-er8kp5pk5v Рік тому

    My car is deawoo matiz year 2000 model,the fan is not working😢

  • @charlesburns8649
    @charlesburns8649 5 років тому +2

    answer some question.

  • @Victor1Charlie
    @Victor1Charlie 6 років тому

    Videos are good but I can't stand that computer voice - had to unsubscribe.

  • @sergiobonvini7190
    @sergiobonvini7190 2 роки тому

    This is the worst electronic testing equipment I have ever purchased in my entire professional life. There is no instruction available on how to use it, no warranty terms condition, absolutely nothing.