A 2022 Indian Pursuit That Won't Start! | Cruiseman's Garage
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- I just received a 2022 Indian Pursuit press bike with a dead battery!
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Ouch! That headache deserved its own video. I always enjoy your reviews and opinions. They are brutality honest.
Battery Tender port kinda cool... but that does not excuse the ridiculous battery placement. If your out on a ride/tour and the battery dies, you'll still need to jump it. It's a bad design. But, I hope you have fun testing the Indian out & keep the rubber side down!
I don't know for sure if you are correct or not. Maybe you should do a little research before you make a comment. A battery is a very heavy part on a bike and Indian chose to put it at the lowest point possible. Maybe that has something to do with the great handling of the bike. Do ya think.
Seeing as i owned a Victory cross country I'll chime in. Yes the placement is for weight distribution but, its in the same spot as what i had on my Cross Country....which i hated that location.
@@Valentino50541 Thanks for the back-handed implication that I do not think, or do research, since you know nothing about me or where my opinions come from. Great thing is, I am allowed my own opinions, just as you are allowed to make assumptions that you know what a motorcycle designer was thinking and why.
The fact that one must remove multiple pieces just to access a battery that you cannot get jumper cables on, is very short sighted (IMO which I am afforded as a human). And let’s say that you’re on the road, have removed all the pieces in the way, found a way to jump the battery, now you have to tale the time to reassemble all the covers (or store them somewhere) all while the bike to draining the jump charge you just made.
Just like the Goldwing positive battery terminal is placed badly, where it is impossible to get a jumper cable solidly connected to; without say, the terminal extender from Traxxion Dynamics. But, just because someone had to make an after market solution to solve a bad design problem, does not mean the problem does not exist.
I’ve had many bikes over 35 years of riding, and over ½ of that time my bike was (is) my only transportation, i.e. no car or truck at all. So yeah, when I see a design that will cause me extended time on the side of a road with inattentive drivers whizzing by, I’ll put that opinion out there for others to think about. We can all have our own thoughts without putting fellow riders down…
Stay safe on the road! 😎
Hi Voices. I have the Scosche booster. It’s very compact and works great. It comes with a set of cables that can be easily attached to the positive and negative terminals on the GoldWing. Cruiseman has done that with his. I can easily plug my tender or booster into the connector at the end of theses cables. It also comes with alligator clips, but they’re not necessary. The accessory pod on the Indian looks like it has the same connector. So boosting or charging should be possible through the pod.
I agree though… the battery should be more accessible. But my batteries generally last several years. So I could live with an extra 10 or 15 minutes to service it when the time comes. Under the seat is always a good spot if there’s room.
@@whatsupeh1 Thanks Dwight! I went with the Fanttik T8 APEX Jump Starter - I'll have a look at the Scosche. Being in AZ and riding the SouthWest on my 'daily driver', batteries can be temperamental for me, and do not last long.
They knew that that motorcycle draws too much current that's why they built that charging port right in.
I’m sure Polaris/Indian will be super happy that the press fleet delivery guy dropped off a non running motorcycle for you to review!!! lol
Really not the delivery guy's fault. He just delivers the bikes. He said the bike was running fine when they loaded it on the trailer in California.
When I bought a Challenger the dealer told me about the charging port. Also, they told me to always plug the bike in when not riding it. For some reason, some challengers chew up batteries. Mine was one of those and I always worried if the bike would leave me stranded. It never did but it had electrical gremlins that would crop up, but could not be fixed as "there is nothing wrong with the bike!" I sold it after suffering for 4000 miles. Hope the Pursuit works for you.
Chris I too have the Scosche Powerup. I stopped off at the doctor's office for about 1.5 hrs or so. I came out to a dead battery because I forgot to turn the ignition off (Rookie mistake). I pulled out my Scosche Powerup and it started up without hesitation. BEST MONEY spent!!!
Bummer, Indians a great motorcycle but letting someone do a review and sending them a bike with a dead battery is not a good first impression
It is funny! Just a heads up! You may want to look at the ride command set up instruction. It was the first mistake I made when I got mine. I absolutely love the ride command now that I actually followed the directions. LOL! This falls into the category of life's embarrassing moments. I left out most on purpose! 😀
I had a Challenger that was very picky about batteries. The battery tender did not help the situation. I traded it for my Gold Wing 6 speed manual Tour 😊
The Pursuit has I think 6 onboard computers that create a parasitic draw on the battery. If it sits for extended periods, the battery will drain. Same as today's outboard motors. I have over 4,000 miles on my 2022 Pursuit and love the bike. I traded my 2022 Goldwing Tour DCT on the Indian. The Pursuit is an excellent bike with plenty of power, comfort and tech. It comes with Apple Car Play and I just added the CarLink 4.0 Bluetooth module and now I have Android Auto also. I'm averaging 47 mpg vs the 48 mpg I had on the GW Tour DCT. You will notice more heat from the engine but no where near as bad as the air-cooled V Twins. When my ride is done for the day, I hook up my battery tender immediately. Never had an issue with the bike not starting. I look forward to your review !
really gave the GW a long term shakedown, eh?
@@keemez that was my 3rd Goldwing ; )
I think that SAE port up in the handlebar area was designed more for powering your electric socks and underwear than it was to jump or charge the battery. Check the electrical specs for the jack and see if it will carry a load of about 11-12 amps.
I don't think it is for jump starting. Typical SAE ports cannot handle that amperage. But, I was informed that it could be used for a battery tender.
Now that's a real clever idea, but like you I would have NEVER thought to look for a charging or maintaining port!!
The battery port is a great idea. I fit one to all my bikes. Heavy battery located low down? Makes perfect sense. As for jumping, in spite of the battery being mounted on the side of a Goldwing, you still can't get a crock clip on the battery terminals. I'm a Goldwing rider btw.
At least you can see the battery voltage on the LCD display, that is something I wish the GoldWing did...
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Get yourself a digital V. Meter. I installed it with double face tape on the inside cavity by the headlight adjustment knob. I can see the reading on a sunny day. Works like charm.
Polaris learned to put the battery there on the Victory Vision and Cross Country bikes. Looks like they continued the trend. I get keeping weight low and forward, but yes it's kind of a pain to replace.
with the AGM battery make sure to use appropriate tender/charger, i.e. AGM tender
Put some heat shrink on your extension or get you a Makita battery powered ratchet. It works great and tight spots. There's nothing worse than the metallic sound of an extension making contact with the metal fender.
Agreed.
Alot of bikes (my Harley and my Indian) have an SAE battery tender pre-wired under the seat or close to it, since that's normally where the battery is. This is the first time I've seen a "port" built in, but thats probably due to the unusual battery location. BTW, if you turn the wheel it would give you more room to work.
If there is enough juice to power on your screen, plug a tender into the designated port and boom done...
Seams to me the starter should turn over with 11.6v. It might not start though.
That battery is not dead and probably will come back just fine.
That built in port is really nice, but I'm surprised the demo bike with only 700 miles on the clock has a dead battery already? Looking forward to hearing what you think of the Pursuit, I want to test ride one myself this fall as I absolutely loved riding the Challenger.
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I may have come up with a reason for the "dead" battery and it may have something to do with the bike being transferred from California. Watch for my next moto vlog.
Every motorcycle that I have purchase came with an SAE connector but none like the Indian which I like. I am glad you tried the jump starter, It reinforced my reservations about buying one.
Mine died after 6 months. Replaced it with a Duracell and so far no problems.
There is a battery tender port on the dash! No need to do all that work! 😂
No way!!! crazy smart Indians Engineers 😅😅😅
Yup Chris, Thats funny. I put the same type as they did on my 2021 GW Bagger I didnt like the tender cord coming out of the side of the bike like so many of my friends have done. I mounted it below the parking break lever.
My 2014 street glide was wired for a tender. It’s kinda an old feature
Waiting for your honest review. I am falling in love with this bike. The problem I have is, I love my Goldwing DCT Tour. I can't buy another 30K bike, nor do I have the room. I don't really care for that style bike, but Indian made a wonderful, modern machine that will help to kill the boring , expensive, useless HD bikes. If Honda, later on will not improve the 6 gen GW, I will be moving to Indian. In regards to the battery, its typical to happened on bikes with many computers. This will be the future of riding. If you don't ride, plug her in. I do it 24/7 on my bike.
I think you will appreciate my final review and comparison videos.
Well Sir just bought a 2022 metallic black dct tour!! Wow!! What a difference from my 2019 bmw gs!! I'll be be watching your videos.
Nothing like doing a lot of work due to not knowing a simple thing on equipment new to you. When I seen where that battery was, my first thought was that is a pain if you need to charge your battery.
My '21 Harley Street Bob has a tender as well. I thought it was a standard thing in all bikes
Yes, I laughed watching you take everything apart knowing there was a built in charging port! Thanks for the video!
I could almost hear the Indian community laughing in the distance!
Probably the port is only for charging the battery, i.e. during winter time. If you really need a jump starter with high currents you need direct access to the battery poles.
Chris, find out why the battery was not fully charged especially if they claim that it was in working condition. Maybe some kind of a short. But I guess it'll be obvious if the battery will be discharged again after charging it.
Very entertaining! Thanks!
Just goes to show the value of doing some research and /or reading the manual. 🙂
Had an Indian Springfield. Jade Green. GOOD POINT WAS ....The HD guys were green with envy.... Then most of the dealers went out of business for Indian. It would cook my right thigh. Suspension made it feel like the bike was going where it wanted to go. I could see the writing on the wall. Set the Indian free to head to someone else's happy hunting grounds. Love my Honda.... Personally I do not think Indian will stand the potent test of time. For that matter I do not see how HD will either!
There aren’t many Honda dealers left either. FJB 🖕🇨🇳
Challenger owner here, turn the wheel either way full lock and it's much easier to access cover bolts and battery.
Agreed. That's what I did.
Ha, ha, ha ! ……live and learn…..we all make mistakes…nice to know Indian includes the charging adapter feature.
Well every bike is different so easily missed for a battery tender connection. Well BMW thought of it too and the CANBUS port is where you can plug in a battery tender as well. However, you have to know what you are doing because if your tender does not pulse the CANBUS...well it doesn't work. So either way, easy to miss if you never had one before.
you in the oil (or water) industry by chance?
What a PITA. Makes me not want to even consider one if that’s what it takes to change a battery. Charging port, brilliant .
lol......i was scratching my head for a min.
I hope that Indian dealer made it up to you. They owe you something for sure.
Wait a second, you said the dealer put a new battery in it. Hmm, something ain't right.
I'm looking to move up to a newer ride from my 101,000 mile 14 year old bike. I've narrowed it down to the Goldwing Tour DCT or Indian Pursuit. I've been searching for comparison reviews between these two bikes, but haven't found much. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I'm sure you will be thorough, detailed, and unbiased as usual.
You will definitely want to watch my comparison video.
A port is cool but if you're out on the road and you don't have a plug for the port, you still have to take it apart. Weird battery placement.
The bat tender connector near the handlebar is really cool.... I put mine in the left saddlebag on my 2018 GW.
May I ask if you access the tender plug with the saddlebag open or closed?
@@mikec9162 I drilled a hole in the front panel of the left saddle bag. I had to install a "Main Battery Switch" because of some issues with a Creep Current (probably a faulty Accessory hub from Pathfinder LED). Thru the same hole I routed the cable for the Jump Starter. If you want, I can send you a picture.
Of course, the saddlebag has to be in Open position.
@@340Captain Thanks for the reply. It sounds like a nice setup.
Turn the front wheel so you dont hit it with the socket extension, im sure the driver left the bike on after he mounted the bike for delivery, did you check by the fuse block for a positive post ?
Btw i knew about the charger port plug on the dash that is wired to the 10A TENDER.
When you go actually look at bikes in the dealer the indian sales man goes over 99% of the bike with you, this was a fun bike to drive.
Someone didn’t read the manual. 🤣
Cruise man brand front tire too boot. 😄
I think it's awesome you take the time to even look at other bikes being a GW lover.....I am also a GW lover as well. 1st GW last year.21 Goldwing Tour DCT.
I looked for a year at many model's including the Indian... Review after Review...I will say:: your video's helped my decision on what I was going to buy. Dependability I was looking for.
Plus the Honda stores across the map to help if anything was to happen on the road.. I do worry about the suspension up front. But I will climb that hill when I get to it. Thanks for your video 's & keep up the awesome work....& I did purchase your maintenance videos.... Pay for themselves for sure... I also have a few of your shirts I ride with as well. Sticker on my tool box...lol
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I was trying to tell you about the port through the video but it didn't work for some reason
Maybe they did not disable the security while trailering it.
Next to my Goldwing 1800 I have my BMW GS 1200 that as the connector on the handlebar build in from the factory 😋😎
Big face palm moment lol, well look at the bright side, The the little bit of disassembly you did gives you something else to compare to with the Gold Wing battery changing.
Well even new batteries can drop a cell for no apparent reason, I have had it happen to me in the past. Hopefully this isn't the case and the battery holds a charge.
Looking forward to your review!
😂 That is funny! First thing my dad would of said .....Read the destruction first.... I heard that particular statement when I was trying to assemble this metal shed without reading anything. That was funny also !
Thanks for the vid! be well.
🤣don't get me wrong, but for more than 30years, I systematicaly install that kind of direct contact to the battery, but yes, i do drive more than 30.000km/year and summer/winter alle year long. Did it on my Goldwing, previously on my Triumph Trophy, before on my KTM SuperAdventure 1290 and on the 950 too, on my BMW K1200RS and on my Triumph Daytonasss 1200. I thoughut you liked to show us your screwdrivers ;-) The low battery location is good for the lowest gravity-center - I had it on the KTM's also as low, but with the salt on the belgian raods in winter : Verry bad location. The Indian should be a summer bike in here ;-) K.R. and thanks for your good vidéos. LPhD
Harley has Battery Tender terminals on all of their newer bikes.
Doesn't surprise me battery need charged.I have 2020 Challenger and yep on tender regularly as I left off 1 week to see what would happen and dead.Other than that it's been great bike looking forward to your review
I’m really looking forward to your review on this bike!
Cool. Tender port.
You still are doing good.
I really like my Scosche booster. It came in really handy last year during a 300 mile ride. A friend’s Harley was having a battery issue and I jump started it at least a half dozen times. Every time we stopped, it needed a boost. The Scosche worked flawlessly. I charge it about every two months to make sure it’s always fresh.
Funny about the battery fiasco on the Indian. But pretty clever of them to include the tender port. The Scosche would easily plug into that as well, if a boost was required.
Instead of finding an efficacious solution to the battery going dead so fast, they took the easy way out with the charge port. I guess they will soon be selling battery powered two wheel conveyance !
Wow, Indian fell off it's face at the onset, not a good start...I almost got the Challenger, but after much debate, I ended up with a 2021 Road Glide Special...fit and finish vs the Challenger was night and day difference...a year later, I got a 2021 Goldwing DCT bagger non-tour and the GW is just one great bike to own...thanks for sharing, looking forward to your reviews.
100% agree.
Too funny, victory vision battery location as well.
Oops. Who knew? Genius idea!
Did they build Indian so that it is designed to Require shop mechanics only? A mechanics nightmare to say the least.
You know the bike has a built in charging port right?
did it crank after all?
That is a really poor design ! To put a battery in that spot and doesn't it get hot in that spot ? I am glad honda puts the battery under the seat ! Thanks again for another great video Cruiseman 📹 👍
That was painful to watch AND at the end, no results? ?? ???
Ha man, that made me laugh 😃 but hay that looks like some great engineers work has gone into this bike am well looking forward to your reviews 👍👍 hope u enjoy the Indian 🙏
I bought some small alligator clips just for this reason.
R.T.F.M.! (Read The F**king Manual)
I don't know for sure if you are correct or not. Maybe you should do a little research before you make a comment. A battery is a very heavy part on a bike and Indian chose to put it at the lowest point possible. Maybe that has something to do with the great handling of the bike. Do ya think.
I was not criticizing the placement of the battery other than hard to get to.
@@cruisemansgarage Understand and the comment was not intended for you! Sorry! However I am offended by the click bait! Dead Indian comment!
@@Valentino50541 Well, seems I offend everyone at some point.
A test bike? Why not just call Indian and let them fix it??
" charge up the battery enough to hold a charge "
Sir, I'm a Engineer and Master MC tech from 3 manufacturers, do you understand how WRONG this statement is?
Any I quoted you Sir.
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Yeah this is the kind of stuff Honda COULD have put in that useless side door on the Goldwing a battery tender... oh wait I do put my Aleve in there so its not totally useless
Nobody does that Chris, nobody.
You only get one chance to make a good impression. Unfortunate for Indian especially as it's a new battery. Also it begs the question why are they putting a new battery on a bike with 5000 miles on it?
700 miles
Not a way for a dealership or the brand (Indian) to present themselves to 40k viewers who could be potential buyers. A dead bike with so few miles, that already had to have the battery replaced? I don't know Cruiseman, are you riding this back to CA? I'd think twice on that trip!
Must not have come with a manual...😬
What is it with battery's this year? So many dead ones. Goldwing's to. Way to many electronics on these bikes nowdays
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Bad design in front of bike
Bike always shake terminals loose
Always check those terminals
You didnt have to do any of that! Indian provides a battery tender plug on the dash!
As I pointed out at the end of the video!
@@cruisemansgarage Yes you did! Good man!
You mean Polaris...
Bully for you Chris trying to get a review thing to run. Not good PR for Indian. Oh man, hang in Chris, give ya credit.
I'm a fan of the channel, buuuuuuut, not diggin' the click baity headline and title. I mean is it technically true...sure. But could the whole dead battery "issue" have been a 10 second comment in the complete review video, yes. Maybe you felt you had to crank a vid out...not sure. But to me....a firm gives you a bike for free to test, and for all we know the shipper leaves a light one, or didn't put it into the right mode, or whatever, and this is the thanks they get? Ouch!
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Not a rousing endorsement for Indian.
I am not going to judge the bike from an undercharged battery.
@@cruisemansgarage I agree. But first impressions and all. If I weren’t a diehard Goldwing rider, Indian would be my backup. I love their big red/tan cruiser.
They are supposed to be kept on a tender and key fob far away from the bike. it is common parasitic draw. read the manual. it is also online. you didn't do your research. You are not very smart. all this information is in the manual. easy to read stuff.
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I personally think its a terrible place to place a battery. up front just after the front wheels. maybe it's Indian's way of saying hey my battery is not gonna short even if I ride on through a heavy downpour in the rain. I think it's the worse place to put a battery. worse still... why would I sent a motorcycle with a dead battery for review purposes. should have just skip the whole idea. no confidence in a bike of this design and couple with the people who runs the brand having weird ideas of presenting a motocycle with bad battery for review purpose. definitely a no no...
It would be great to have a crystal ball at times Chris🥹. Looking forward to your review of the Indian my friend
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