Your main theme at the beginning is what I remember from every morning last year, when I used to get up at 5.30. Every morning there was a new video from legion class order hall or other great stuff. And today, again, at 5.30, there is a new video. You don't even know how easier it is to awake when watching it :)
So Sylvanas has plans to place a sleeper agent inside the alliance leadership so when the time comes she can activate him and kill everyone thus giving her an easy win? You would think Garrona of all people might have some strong opinions regarding that plan.....
You would think all the leaders of the horde would have a problem with resurrecting a guy, breaking his mind, and using him to kill his family but that doesn't seem to be the case huh?
@@eltriplej6944 Honestly I think it will end up with Sylvanas saying "I knew Baine would betray me, so I had Derek become a sleeper agent from way before. That way Derek's escape looked legit and I have a "plant" in the alliance as well as an excuse to remove yet another obstacle to my leadership. MUHAHAHAHAHA! *IT WAS PLANNED ALL ALONG!!!* " (While twirling her evil mustache of course)
It's probably my Alliance bias talking but I find the Kul Tiras storyline far more compelling than "Waka-" I mean… "Zanadlar Forevah!" (Got to say though that the bargain with Bwonsamdi is interesting at the very least as storytelling factor).
I find the Trolls and their relationship with their gods in one of the oldest cities on the planet, older than the empire of Azshara, far more interesting than the humans.
Ty Sir! Great narrative! I'm not up on the lore. So detailed videos, like yours, fill in the gaps for me. Your video was just what I was looking for. Thank you for your time! (edit. Just checked your channel, Ty, I have a lot of great content to watch!) Just scrolled down, saw Zach's post. I had shivers when I saw the same cutscenes! lol All the best to you and your family!
So place your bets, jaina's life hasn't been shitty enough I guess so is she going to lose: A.) Her mother B.) Her brother that has just been returned to her or C.) both of them
@@JamailvanWestering I already thought that the mother dying would be a pretty big possibility. Zandalar already lost their leader (but gained a stronger one, I guess), so Kul Tiras losing the "no longer leader" (because she already gave that title and respoisbility to Jaina) would be rather easy to justify. I mean, Zandalar is really looking out for some revenge. And Katherine would be someone to sacrifice herself to save Jaina. Also: you do have Naga and stuff on the horizon, that would also be a possible story arc for a "big" NPC to die. I am not sure if they really would bring her brother back into the story just to kill him (if we are talking about Tandred), I think it is more likely to kill of the mother, and have Jaina and him lead Kul Tiras. What happens to Derek is another story I think.
Ever since I've seen the Desolation of Smaug, I've been wanting stuff like that in game to come one day. And now it finally happened, Boralus like Laketown, Drustvar like Mirkwood. I'm telling ya, go fishing in Boralus put the Laketown music in the background (add inky black potion for bonus) and experience the magic ^^. Also some parts of Stormsong Valley look like Beorn's place, The Shire, etc...
Warcraft deserves a show...I don't care if it's animated, CGI or live action. Warcraft needs a freaking tv show. Put it on Hulu, Amazon, Netflix...I don't care where it comes from Blizzard!! Just make it happen!!!
I'm honestly excited to see Taelia reaction when she sees who the lich king is right now. it was said that " there always needs to be a lich king" and i agree that there won't be any better lich king then Arthas by any mean's but good god i want to see more of it.
Wait a sec. Has it been confirmed that Thros is indeed the emerald nightmare? Last I recall it was only a hypothesis that it was connected to the emerald dream and perhaps the original realm that it was crafted from
"As the war went on, the desperate Drust called onto dark powers. Unbeknownst to them, they had reached the Emerald Nightmare". My guess is that they tried tapping into void magic, but the closest thing to that is the Nightmare since they don't have any contact with the old gods. More info here: wow.gamepedia.com/Thros,_the_Blighted_Lands#cite_note-afra-3
I was wondering about that too when I heard it. It would make sense, just the way the nightmare has been represented so far doesn't exactly add up, considering the raid's design.
I wish they'd done more with the Emerald Nightmare...or would do more with their material in general. It's heartbreaking when you think about how much stuff has ended on the cutting room floor and what we've gotten with Battle for Azeroth.
I freaking loved coming back every few days to the Darkest Dungeon questline, but it was/is kind of sad that it just ends without achievement or smth so people who don't know the game/see the reference will never truly be enlightened
Ya know I’ve always wondered why in ur vids u choose ur human paladin to be like the face of ur UA-cam channel, I get that it’s prob ur main but I woulda thought u would choose somethin to go with the theme of lore like an Ancient Of Lore, just a thought, love ur vids
Hey Nobbel. I am doing a speech for my speech class on either Jaina Proudmoore or Varian Wrynn and I was wondering if I could cite your videos(giving you credit) for it?
He's not a primary source. If your speech requires those go to his sources in the description and track down the original source of the info you wanna use. Just watching out for your GPA mate
I know I'm really late to the party and I don't even play on Alliance much but this is amazing, gives me hope for some decent lore in Shadowlands unlike the ending of BfA.
Hello noble I hecking love your videos I've been watching you for years now, I've wanted to know about the spirit healer for a while, because her audio is distorted and reversed but i found out that she talks about how the player and her are connected, Idk I thought it wo5be a neat idea
note katharyn proudemoore was not named lord admiral she was lord regent since lord admiral is a inheritary title only one of the children could be titled as such katharyn herself would be lord regent a honorary title granted to spouses of titled people who die so that a nation or group may have a leader
also the thing with the death of rastakhan we all knew he wasn't going to be the leader of the zandalaari trolls so in all honesty there is no reason to have it balance out especially because technically the alliance is down a faction leader while the horde is not
I really hate how big Kul'Tiras is on the map. I mean they came out of Gilneas and somehow they have a population big enough to inhabit every corner of Kul'Tiras? Righto
It's easier to click on. I know your worry though, the dumbasses at Blizz might actually think that it is as big as a continent. Oh how I hope that doesn't happen, but it already happened once though.
So should the Kul Tiran human be paladin or not? As a member of the old Alliance, I’m sure those strong muscular seamen have been “touched” plenty of times by the Light and Faol
Kul tirans can wield the light but arent nearily as connected to it as Eastern Kingdom humans are.They revere nature more than the light hence why they have access to both shamans and druids
Kul Tiran marines benefited a lot more from water magic than they would have from the light. Also, they are pretty far west and the paladin culture did get disrupted in the north by the Scourge. The south was less affected by the scourge, therefore paladin orders thrived in Stormwind and Ironforge.
Hey, hero who just saved my ass (after helping save the whole world's ass, which we didn't help with at all), remember when you came here as the alliance's official ambassador and i threw you into a horrible prison without formal accusation or any trial? Yeah my bad on that one. I mean, just a little. So we're totally cool now, right?
I hope Blizzard breaks away from Activision so that they can regain their reputation and eventually make a new WoW, because the story is getting good again, but they aren't going to last forever on this old ass gaming engine.
This could actually be quite interesting. Although I think it was a bit lazy to just throw in a Fordragon child (at least I haven't heard of her ever before), it would make for a quite interesting couple. Not only do you have the Wrynn - Fordragon families together, but: with his fighting "skills", she would be a good women next to him. I mean, on the battlefield. She's for sure not a "sit at home" wife. There aren't so many besides her (if you want to marry him I mean). Jaina I don't think is an option (neither her seems to be into him, nor he - with him calling her "auntie") and there arent that many besides her that would even be possible.
what i find off in the whole bfa story is the hypocrisy we have a faction of people (lets call them a) who hate/detest faction b for valid reasons. than event c happens and a change thier oppinions of b by 180°.... this happens twice in bfa but only once created outcrys by the fans. 1 time with Jaina's (in proxy for the alliance (b) ) return to kul'tiras (a) (she was hated for 10+ years for the death of many KT people and missing support afterwards, a popular folk song got rewritten just to show "We hate Jaina", and (c) suddenly Jaina and the Alliance PC shows up have some actions in the 3 areas and suddently every KT loves Jaina?) also Jainas "oh i did everything wrong" is BS in it's finest as well as an fine example of hypocrisy. Arthas best curse of action (you cant stop him, atleast save as many people as possible), Uther and her father same story, by Varian in both situations NOT attacking/dismantel the horde was the best action possible 1. UC you where in the middle of fighting the LK 2. OG would end in long fights with the resistance of the surviving horde races. A good point for "i did everything wrong" with varian would be if she was present at broken shore she could have ported him out BUT she rage quited like a sore loser Rhonin and Gnome Girl you had the chance to get them to safety / not get them involved and may i asked you something what was a rhonin doing there? why did Jaina blame aethas for "siding" with the horde when the leader of the Kirin'tor and the silver covenant sided with the alliance first ? 2 time with the Nelfs (a). (10+ years with problems the horde (b) in Ashenvale (they killed cenarius, fell tress for lumber, than in event (c) they got abandoned by their goddess/leaders/protectors and than revived which brings out the darkest side of one character and almost everyone loses their mind?) lets guess which of the two created attention and outcrys in the player community?
But Jaina did not kill her father and all the men. the only thing she did was see how stupid her father and his people were and step aside while The horde took them out. she tried to get them to see reason and they didn't and they were killed by their own fault. Yes that's still said but even if she tried to help them it wouldn't have worked out anyway
How? You see a T-Rex spirit walk on water and launch a ship through water with a massive headbutt!!! I get what you mean though, Zandalar was grandiose, but Kul Tiras was a lot more personal, and the lovecraft aspect was great for fans.
Still think Jaina becoming Lord Admiral of Kul'Tiras is shitty writing. It's too soon. A people's decade+ long of hate/fear of a person won't so easily be eased.... even if she helped bring home the fleet.
Wow. Jaina is getting old. I didn't know she came from a sailor family. That may explain why she runs one of the very few human settlements in Kalimidore, Theramore. She can sail over there from the Eastern Kingdoms. Jaina is a mage. So she could probably make a portal as well. There is even an anchor necklace in the sailor family. Jaina was the formor love interest of the Dark Lord. So in a way, she is like Padme from the Star Wars prequals. That is funny to refer to Jaina as "everyone's favorite waifu". I didn't know people had the hots for her LOL. I don't know if there are any characters in WOW. For me. I am a straight woman, so I am only into males. I think the hottest people of Azeroth is the male blood elves. I like to play as one of them. I don't know anyone in the lore like that. I think the leader of the blood elves is male. High elves are a rare and wonderful find. There is a really cute high elf dude, named Wavesinger. He is on the ship between Stormwind and the Night Elf territory. Ship rides can get dull. So sometimes I spam the flirt emote on Wavesinger, since I have nothing else to do. I didn't know there would be human allied races. Humans are so bland and generic. I would like the human allied races to reflect different races in real life. They can get cultures from other WoW races. There could be a black race that is with the orcs and trolls. There can be a native american race with the tauren. There can be an asian race that is with Pandarian. If there are going to be more allied races anyway, I would like there to be high elves. They are on alliance side and distinct from the blood elves. I enjoy playing elves as they are my favorite. So if there were more kinds of elves, I would totally play them.
@@TheKingDain I agree that trying to break Zandalari resolve was dumb, but at least Zandalar was already Horde aligned. If the Horde told Kul'Tiras they wouldn't invade, Mama Proudmoore would have even more reason to be hands off.
@@jimmcphearson7252 Zandalar is with the Horde. Alliance bomb Zandalar to get the Horde leave. The Horde stays with Zandalar. Impeccable Alliance logic.
Love your videos Nobbel, but as of Legion, I can't really stand the Lore of WoW anymore. It takes itself way too seriously nowadays without taking any of the necessary steps (consistency, no retconning bs) to be a solid story, yet still is written by the people who brought us the Hellfire boar poop quest.
When I see the scene with Jaina and her Mother in Thros, it makes me think how much easier it is to be a female Even as a nearly 40-year-old woman you can still cry and embrace your mother like a kid, and no one will give you a hard time for it. But try to do that as a man, and everyone will laugh at you and call you weak. So unfair :D
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I still get chills from that cinematic when the fleet appears. The music is so good there
As Jaina calls the fleet, it was one of the most epic scenes in the whole game, since years...so frikkin awsome!
Laura Bailey's singing of Daughter of the Sea always gives me chills. So much emotion in her voice, she is a great voice actress and singer.
A turtle made it to Kul Tiras!
Your main theme at the beginning is what I remember from every morning last year, when I used to get up at 5.30. Every morning there was a new video from legion class order hall or other great stuff. And today, again, at 5.30, there is a new video. You don't even know how easier it is to awake when watching it :)
Fun fact: Chen is afiliated to the Lord Admiral's death
Hearing and watching your videos really makes me forget about all the dramas, thank-you 😃
So Sylvanas has plans to place a sleeper agent inside the alliance leadership so when the time comes she can activate him and kill everyone thus giving her an easy win?
You would think Garrona of all people might have some strong opinions regarding that plan.....
Don't try to apply your fancy logic to this! /s
He could potentially resist. Just throw him some good memories and presto!
On the other hand, Garrona was mind controled. No wonder warlocks were OP.
You would think all the leaders of the horde would have a problem with resurrecting a guy, breaking his mind, and using him to kill his family but that doesn't seem to be the case huh?
@@Nyghtking you would think sylvannas herself would be against this plan since this is what arthas did to her
@@eltriplej6944
Honestly I think it will end up with Sylvanas saying "I knew Baine would betray me, so I had Derek become a sleeper agent from way before. That way Derek's escape looked legit and I have a "plant" in the alliance as well as an excuse to remove yet another obstacle to my leadership. MUHAHAHAHAHA! *IT WAS PLANNED ALL ALONG!!!* "
(While twirling her evil mustache of course)
11:17 lord arthas waycrest
This entire island must be PURGED!
It's probably my Alliance bias talking but I find the Kul Tiras storyline far more compelling than "Waka-" I mean… "Zanadlar Forevah!" (Got to say though that the bargain with Bwonsamdi is interesting at the very least as storytelling factor).
Likewise.
I find the Trolls and their relationship with their gods in one of the oldest cities on the planet, older than the empire of Azshara, far more interesting than the humans.
Ty Sir! Great narrative! I'm not up on the lore. So detailed videos, like yours, fill in the gaps for me. Your video was just what I was looking for. Thank you for your time! (edit. Just checked your channel, Ty, I have a lot of great content to watch!) Just scrolled down, saw Zach's post. I had shivers when I saw the same cutscenes! lol All the best to you and your family!
So place your bets, jaina's life hasn't been shitty enough I guess so is she going to lose:
A.) Her mother
B.) Her brother that has just been returned to her
or C.) both of them
D) all of the above plus reborn as a forsaken. In the Dark Lady’s name.
I'm hoping both.
Probably her mother
@@JamailvanWestering
I already thought that the mother dying would be a pretty big possibility.
Zandalar already lost their leader (but gained a stronger one, I guess), so Kul Tiras losing the "no longer leader" (because she already gave that title and respoisbility to Jaina) would be rather easy to justify.
I mean, Zandalar is really looking out for some revenge. And Katherine would be someone to sacrifice herself to save Jaina. Also: you do have Naga and stuff on the horizon, that would also be a possible story arc for a "big" NPC to die.
I am not sure if they really would bring her brother back into the story just to kill him (if we are talking about Tandred), I think it is more likely to kill of the mother, and have Jaina and him lead Kul Tiras.
What happens to Derek is another story I think.
BlueLPGamers god I hope not
I still get chills whenever I see that cinematic.
Gorak Tul had so much potential and was a great character with in depth lore. But it was wasted as he became just another quest mob.
Baine already sent Derek back to Jaina.
Ever since I've seen the Desolation of Smaug, I've been wanting stuff like that in game to come one day. And now it finally happened, Boralus like Laketown, Drustvar like Mirkwood. I'm telling ya, go fishing in Boralus put the Laketown music in the background (add inky black potion for bonus) and experience the magic ^^.
Also some parts of Stormsong Valley look like Beorn's place, The Shire, etc...
The Kul Tiran classes:
Warrior- Marine
Hunter- Outrigger/Ranger
Rogue- Privateer/Mercenary
Monk- Stormwalker
Druid- Thornspeaker
Shaman- Tidesage
Priest- Voidsage
Mage- Icecaster/Flamecaster
Warcraft deserves a show...I don't care if it's animated, CGI or live action. Warcraft needs a freaking tv show. Put it on Hulu, Amazon, Netflix...I don't care where it comes from Blizzard!! Just make it happen!!!
WoW anime
CGI or Animated would be better. Live Action is very restricted.
@@iceman3317
Agreed. A WoW animated series would be awesome.
My only question is, where would it start off at?
but please in the same style as the warbringer cinematics. They were awesome.
I'm honestly excited to see Taelia reaction when she sees who the lich king is right now.
it was said that " there always needs to be a lich king" and i agree that there won't be any better lich king then Arthas by any mean's but good god i want to see more of it.
I don't think she will find out, because the only people that should know Bolvar is the Lich King is the players now that Tirion is dead
Subjecttochange and sylvanas and a lot of the Death knights
@@Subjecttochannel no, actually Jaina knows about Bolvar too
Vol'jin and friends also know about Bolvar being the Lich King.
@@Subjecttochannel Anduin know too if Genn didnt told him then Shaw would after all Shaws job is to provide such information to the ruling king
Can you do an updated version of the History of Warcraft video?
"jaina, is another story.Quiet a large one..."
Oh i see what you did there.
Great video as usual, Nobbel. Cheers!
Ooooo so excited for this one!
You truly are the Loremaster of WoW
20:00 "Lord Beckett what are your orders?!?"
I really like the dark druidism of the Drust, been waiting for that for a while.
I was kind of hoping warcraft 3 would have been included in the video
Are you Dutch? Your accent truly adds such a great aspect to your storytelling. Brilliantly done!
as dutch as they come and thank you so much!
Wait a sec. Has it been confirmed that Thros is indeed the emerald nightmare? Last I recall it was only a hypothesis that it was connected to the emerald dream and perhaps the original realm that it was crafted from
"As the war went on, the desperate Drust called onto dark powers. Unbeknownst to them, they had reached the Emerald Nightmare".
My guess is that they tried tapping into void magic, but the closest thing to that is the Nightmare since they don't have any contact with the old gods.
More info here:
wow.gamepedia.com/Thros,_the_Blighted_Lands#cite_note-afra-3
I was wondering about that too when I heard it. It would make sense, just the way the nightmare has been represented so far doesn't exactly add up, considering the raid's design.
Ayep in this interview done by the lost codex: ua-cam.com/video/8nGnT6WZbeI/v-deo.html
I wish they'd done more with the Emerald Nightmare...or would do more with their material in general.
It's heartbreaking when you think about how much stuff has ended on the cutting room floor and what we've gotten with Battle for Azeroth.
@@eltriplej6944 So, the Drust are partially corrupted by N'Zoth, interesting.
Thros is the emerald Nightmare?
source?
kul tiras is a place in azeroth where i'd settle down. it's beautiful.
Stormsong valley for me.
Tirigarde sound is my favorite
Monks practice a form of Shamanism, so it's not too surprising that the Kul Tirans can be Monks.
Wate Azshara is everybody's fav waifu!?!?
21:18 I know people call it a stupid plan, but Doomhammer tried the same thing. It seemed logic, but it simply went wrong
Didn't know Priscilla had a Heart of Azeroth too. 14:45 24:39
14:40 (subtitles) "Le gasp." haha!
I freaking loved coming back every few days to the Darkest Dungeon questline, but it was/is kind of sad that it just ends without achievement or smth so people who don't know the game/see the reference will never truly be enlightened
20:15 Nobbel plays with WM off like a shitter
Kul Tiras sorta feels like it should be in game of thrones.
Didn’t jaina also have a half elf brother that was written out of canon?
Actually, her brother Tandred was the one who was originally written out of canon
They un-de-canonized Tandred, thankfully
There’s also a supposed Half sister who is a Half-Elf from her father but that’s up for debate.
typo in the description, can you find it?
I did.
Ya know I’ve always wondered why in ur vids u choose ur human paladin to be like the face of ur UA-cam channel, I get that it’s prob ur main but I woulda thought u would choose somethin to go with the theme of lore like an Ancient Of Lore, just a thought, love ur vids
what killed Kul Tiras' man? Are they speaking about mana bomb? that's only slaughter of their people on Theramore I can remember
Hey Nobbel. I am doing a speech for my speech class on either Jaina Proudmoore or Varian Wrynn and I was wondering if I could cite your videos(giving you credit) for it?
He's not a primary source. If your speech requires those go to his sources in the description and track down the original source of the info you wanna use. Just watching out for your GPA mate
Thanks a bunch @@Froggeh92
I know I'm really late to the party and I don't even play on Alliance much but this is amazing, gives me hope for some decent lore in Shadowlands unlike the ending of BfA.
Oh man... You poor thing
@@twinmama16 Words cannot express how much I regret making this comment.
Do the story of Thrall.
No
He doesn't work for blizzard anymore
Unless you want a 10 hour video about main man Thrall, about every video from Legion and back mentions a bit about Go'el.
@Stencil Walters
Who, Thrall? lol
What does Metzen leaving have to do with making a video about Thrall?
@@RileyRivalle2 his story is just in an awkward place where it won't end
Hello noble I hecking love your videos I've been watching you for years now, I've wanted to know about the spirit healer for a while, because her audio is distorted and reversed but i found out that she talks about how the player and her are connected, Idk I thought it wo5be a neat idea
Still my favorite of the Seven Kingdoms.
23:28 I see that you are a man of culture
note katharyn proudemoore was not named lord admiral she was lord regent since lord admiral is a inheritary title only one of the children could be titled as such katharyn herself would be lord regent a honorary title granted to spouses of titled people who die so that a nation or group may have a leader
also the thing with the death of rastakhan we all knew he wasn't going to be the leader of the zandalaari trolls so in all honesty there is no reason to have it balance out especially because technically the alliance is down a faction leader while the horde is not
I really hate how big Kul'Tiras is on the map. I mean they came out of Gilneas and somehow they have a population big enough to inhabit every corner of Kul'Tiras? Righto
It's easier to click on. I know your worry though, the dumbasses at Blizz might actually think that it is as big as a continent. Oh how I hope that doesn't happen, but it already happened once though.
Just wanted to note that Sargeras was actually a better person than Daelin.
Is it just me or is his accent therapeutic?
So should the Kul Tiran human be paladin or not? As a member of the old Alliance, I’m sure those strong muscular seamen have been “touched” plenty of times by the Light and Faol
I was REALLY pissed off when I learned that Kul Tirans won't be able to be Paladins...And Zandalari Monks piss me off just as much.
Kul tirans can wield the light but arent nearily as connected to it as Eastern Kingdom humans are.They revere nature more than the light hence why they have access to both shamans and druids
eaglebach makes no sense that undead can use the light but lul titan humans can’t.......
Kul Tiran marines benefited a lot more from water magic than they would have from the light. Also, they are pretty far west and the paladin culture did get disrupted in the north by the Scourge. The south was less affected by the scourge, therefore paladin orders thrived in Stormwind and Ironforge.
Hey, hero who just saved my ass (after helping save the whole world's ass, which we didn't help with at all), remember when you came here as the alliance's official ambassador and i threw you into a horrible prison without formal accusation or any trial? Yeah my bad on that one. I mean, just a little. So we're totally cool now, right?
I hope Blizzard breaks away from Activision so that they can regain their reputation and eventually make a new WoW, because the story is getting good again, but they aren't going to last forever on this old ass gaming engine.
Sadly that can’t happen the way it happened like with Bungie 😞
Andwin x Talia ship?
This could actually be quite interesting.
Although I think it was a bit lazy to just throw in a Fordragon child (at least I haven't heard of her ever before), it would make for a quite interesting couple. Not only do you have the Wrynn - Fordragon families together, but: with his fighting "skills", she would be a good women next to him. I mean, on the battlefield. She's for sure not a "sit at home" wife.
There aren't so many besides her (if you want to marry him I mean).
Jaina I don't think is an option (neither her seems to be into him, nor he - with him calling her "auntie") and there arent that many besides her that would even be possible.
Not to forget Genn was pushing Anduin to find a baby mamma :p
if theres never a cutscene or like a little crack by jaina catching anduin with talia in bed im ganna be mad
I still don't understand why we don't have the skinny humans with the new race. Jaina is one of them and she isn't fat
Who's the waifu that's returning?
Knaifu.
Flynn Fairwind is the best thing to happen to my Night elf Demon Hunter.
White-Van Helsing dude, she patiently walked with him in a circle while he was drunk, protecting him from lizards. I think Elyanara doesn’t mind
I can see the cringe roleplay in this.
what i find off in the whole bfa story is the hypocrisy
we have a faction of people (lets call them a) who hate/detest faction b for valid reasons.
than event c happens and a change thier oppinions of b by 180°....
this happens twice in bfa but only once created outcrys by the fans.
1 time with Jaina's (in proxy for the alliance (b) ) return to kul'tiras (a) (she was hated for 10+ years for the death of many KT people and missing support afterwards, a popular folk song got rewritten just to show "We hate Jaina", and (c) suddenly Jaina and the Alliance PC shows up have some actions in the 3 areas and suddently every KT loves Jaina?)
also Jainas "oh i did everything wrong" is BS in it's finest as well as an fine example of hypocrisy.
Arthas best curse of action (you cant stop him, atleast save as many people as possible), Uther and her father same story,
by Varian in both situations NOT attacking/dismantel the horde was the best action possible 1. UC you where in the middle of fighting the LK 2. OG would end in long fights with the resistance of the surviving horde races.
A good point for "i did everything wrong" with varian would be if she was present at broken shore she could have ported him out BUT she rage quited like a sore loser
Rhonin and Gnome Girl you had the chance to get them to safety / not get them involved and may i asked you something what was a rhonin doing there? why did Jaina blame aethas for "siding" with the horde when the leader of the Kirin'tor and the silver covenant sided with the alliance first ?
2 time with the Nelfs (a). (10+ years with problems the horde (b) in Ashenvale (they killed cenarius, fell tress for lumber, than in event (c) they got abandoned by their goddess/leaders/protectors and than revived which brings out the darkest side of one character and almost everyone loses their mind?)
lets guess which of the two created attention and outcrys in the player community?
Write better english if you want to be understood. I can't follow what you're saying.
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But Jaina did not kill her father and all the men. the only thing she did was see how stupid her father and his people were and step aside while The horde took them out. she tried to get them to see reason and they didn't and they were killed by their own fault. Yes that's still said but even if she tried to help them it wouldn't have worked out anyway
She allowed the Horde into Theramore. That's why she is regarded as the killer of her father.
@@dogswifty7800 Fair Point, though if he wasn't such an ignorant jackass none of that ever would have happened lol
Or as i like to call them the less rapey ironborn
Why does the Alliance get such a superior area and story? Zandalar :( so meh
How? You see a T-Rex spirit walk on water and launch a ship through water with a massive headbutt!!! I get what you mean though, Zandalar was grandiose, but Kul Tiras was a lot more personal, and the lovecraft aspect was great for fans.
23:26 waifu? I guess u mean ...kniefu xD
why do you almost never talk about warcraft 1 and 2 that was the real origin not wow
So... Kul Tirans are pagans? And Kalimdorians are Christians?
Not really, since some Kul Tirans still worship the Light
@@Jackson110010 Religion has caused more suffering than anything. *tips tophat
@@topheftyr533 idk communism pretty high up there
@@Jackson110010 Now that is something I wont disagree with comrade.
Still think Jaina becoming Lord Admiral of Kul'Tiras is shitty writing. It's too soon. A people's decade+ long of hate/fear of a person won't so easily be eased.... even if she helped bring home the fleet.
Wow. Jaina is getting old. I didn't know she came from a sailor family. That may explain why she runs one of the very few human settlements in Kalimidore, Theramore. She can sail over there from the Eastern Kingdoms. Jaina is a mage. So she could probably make a portal as well. There is even an anchor necklace in the sailor family. Jaina was the formor love interest of the Dark Lord. So in a way, she is like Padme from the Star Wars prequals. That is funny to refer to Jaina as "everyone's favorite waifu". I didn't know people had the hots for her LOL. I don't know if there are any characters in WOW. For me. I am a straight woman, so I am only into males. I think the hottest people of Azeroth is the male blood elves. I like to play as one of them. I don't know anyone in the lore like that. I think the leader of the blood elves is male. High elves are a rare and wonderful find. There is a really cute high elf dude, named Wavesinger. He is on the ship between Stormwind and the Night Elf territory. Ship rides can get dull. So sometimes I spam the flirt emote on Wavesinger, since I have nothing else to do. I didn't know there would be human allied races. Humans are so bland and generic. I would like the human allied races to reflect different races in real life. They can get cultures from other WoW races. There could be a black race that is with the orcs and trolls. There can be a native american race with the tauren. There can be an asian race that is with Pandarian. If there are going to be more allied races anyway, I would like there to be high elves. They are on alliance side and distinct from the blood elves. I enjoy playing elves as they are my favorite. So if there were more kinds of elves, I would totally play them.
with all this wowhead videos you just go and work for them
Or he could just have them as sponsors?
Kinda disgusting how Kul Tiras was lied to and manipulated into assisting the Alliance again.
Kul Tiras is neutral.
Horde bombs and invades Kul Tiras to make it stay neutral.
Kul Tiras goes Alliance.
*Impeccable logic Horde*
@@jimmcphearson7252 To be fair, the Alliance had that same flawed logic with Zandalar.
@@TheKingDain I agree that trying to break Zandalari resolve was dumb, but at least Zandalar was already Horde aligned. If the Horde told Kul'Tiras they wouldn't invade, Mama Proudmoore would have even more reason to be hands off.
@@jimmcphearson7252
Zandalar is with the Horde.
Alliance bomb Zandalar to get the Horde leave.
The Horde stays with Zandalar.
Impeccable Alliance logic.
What do you mean by everyone's favorite waifu? Who is that?
Knifeu Waifu, Xal'atath Blade of the Black Empire
@@SatomiForward oh, I never thought of her that way. But I do admit her human form is very attractive lol
Is it just me or is tandred really hot ?
I cannot stand the Dreamworks/Pixar direction Activision has steered WoW and Blizzard as a whole into.
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Love your videos Nobbel, but as of Legion, I can't really stand the Lore of WoW anymore. It takes itself way too seriously nowadays without taking any of the necessary steps (consistency, no retconning bs) to be a solid story, yet still is written by the people who brought us the Hellfire boar poop quest.
I have an interesting theory. What if Ashvane was working with Sylvanas this whole time and Daelin's body was the true objective of their pact.
Edit: Derek.
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This is heroin
When I see the scene with Jaina and her Mother in Thros, it makes me think how much easier it is to be a female Even as a nearly 40-year-old woman you can still cry and embrace your mother like a kid, and no one will give you a hard time for it. But try to do that as a man, and everyone will laugh at you and call you weak.
So unfair :D
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Holy hell. This guy’s voice and tone are painful. Hordssss. Druidsssss. Paladindtssss. Aboutssss. Tsss.