60T DT Swiss Star Ratchet UpGrade & Sound Comparison 36T, 54T, 60T | RobbArmstrong
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2023
- Do you enjoy a noisy free-hub? Me too!! 🙂 The Star Ratchet upgrade is an absolute must. I've used the 18T, 36T and 54T ratchets and I will say the 54T is my favorite. Or... *used to be my favorite. I never knew a 60T upgrade was even an option! I had to see what it was about!
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I was laughing listening to you rumble through some drawers or something looking for that Dt Swiss grease. Lol I was like “ Robb has so much stuff lol”. I have the 54t in my pro 37s thanks to you and the recommendation. I love them bro!
Bro!! I got so many parts laying around, 🤦🏽♂️ I prolly should have cut that part out, 😆 & yea big Bro, the 54T is the truth! 💪🏾
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I’ve put about 2k miles on my 60t, and it hasn’t skipped a beat. When I race though I use the 54t, even though no problems with the 60t and no noticeable wear.
That’s what’s 🆙 bang for buck you really can’t go wrong with this 60T upgrade, 🙂
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I truly believe that the 54t sounds better than the 60s
Keeping it 💯 with you, I agree! The 60 sounds unique for sure but when at a *high rate of speed I personally like the tune of the 54T. Appreciate the feedback & Welcome to the Channel! 😎
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You should get rid of the wheel imbalance bro, that costing you at least 15 watts 🤣 I like the 54 sound better
RIGHT! 😂 #RobbArmstrong
How is the 60T and 54T holding up? I have the same Bontrager Pro 51 wheels and I’m looking to upgrade.
What’s going on Brother! The 60T is holding up well! Zero issues with it. I personally think I prefer the sounds of the 54T over the 60T, 🤔 but for the cost you can’t go wrong. Either one is a NICE upgrade for the Pro51’s, 😎
Are you running Tubeless? & What tires are you running? I would *HIGHLY recommend going tubeless! It’s worth the initial installment hassle, 😆✅
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did you uses the red spacer in the end? on the chinese gold ratchet
I did use them, 🙂
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@@robbarmstrong8702 interesting I have the Dt Swiss 350 hubs and they don’t seem to work with it installed. How did you install it?
Have you tried *not using them? That’d be my recommendation
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DTswiss is so behind the times with mtbing it is ok with road. When I went from 36t to 54t I thought I was in heaven. Then I went to 72t Hunt and was whoa, then to 120t RaceFace. And think the minimum for technical climbing mtbing 72t is the minimum and 54t is barely adequate. I also got I9 with 692poe and feel that it is too much or nor really practical. I can't really tell the practical difference between the 120poe vs the 692poe, 3* vs. 0.52*, ironically I also have a Onyx instant engagement and those feel the best and something about them, maybe the soft point of engagement but they feel fantastic...the best engagement and feel hub by far.
My goodness this was some good information! 120T 😮 I could only imagine. How does the 120 sound? Has to be INSANE!! 🤯
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@@robbarmstrong8702 If you want sound the Industry9 hubs are it. The race face are 60x2 three paw while Hunt are 36x2 three paw (x2 means each set of three paw are out of phase) so both aren't "ratchet" type freehubs but the point of engagement is high...main difference is that the ratchet style like DtSwiss is that all the 54t or in your case 60t (6* poe) engage all at the same time while the 72poe (5* poe) or 120poe (3*poe) at any given time only enage three teeth. The I9 is a 6paw with two teeth on each paw out of phase, so you can say they are 57x2 six paw has 692poe (0.52* poe), known to be the loudest mtb hub, but they do also make road hubs. But road riding differs that all those POE are't needed and can arguably cause more friction thus loss in efficiency.
36t sounds much better.. great comparison by the way
Thanks and appreciate the feedback, 🙏🏾
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Hey buddy, always keep an eye on how are the internals doing, if for some reason you have engagement problems and the ratchet get stuck you can have serios head acke by breaking your rear transmission. I've seen this happening down here with these chines stuff, I have nothing against ali as I buy a lot from there, but understanding how the ratchet system works, I personally would not try something, lets call OEM ? but good look, result looks sweat !
Good Deal, 😎
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😮😮😮😮🔥🔥
Can’t beat the price and performance, 😎
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Great video, I myself was thinking about getting the ALiExpress version for 54t or 60t. Let me know what the durability and reliability is like with the 60t.
Appreciate the feedback! I'd highly recommend the Ali-Express version. I've purchased the OG DT Swiss joints as well and I can't tell a difference in quality or performance.
Now regarding the 60T specifically... No issues but I'd go 54T only because I think it sounds better, IMO. Either one you won't regret!
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Thanks for replying have you seen signs of small metal shavings in the hub with the Ali option?
I haven’t taken the hub apart since the install. Everything feels good though, no slippage or anything like that.
Ok thanks
No problem, #RobbArmstrong
How did you use the red spacer???
I covered it in the video.
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@@robbarmstrong8702 You showed it wrong. RTFM 😉
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How is the 60t holding up so far?
Have it installed on my Pro51s on the Bianchi and it’s GREAT! I have about 300 miles on it so far. Actually getting ready for a ride as we speak, 😆
Have you ever upgraded any of your ratchet systems? 🤔
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on youre behalve am gone try a ordered all the parts to throw it into my newly got 370 ratchet ln and we see ill comeback for an update
That sounds like a plan! 😎
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LOOONG 9days, most of them with german TSA/ZOLL & now Wow, i just threw them in. Into a 370ln Hub and i have to say the sound is completey diferent from youres, i guess cuz my bike is full alloy StreetMtb with super thick slicks and the meater 370 i guess has less vibration but MAAAAN, that sound is crazy it sound like a frckn Hornet swirving youre head.
So when it comes to pricing i think 40 euros is ok for some fun part now we will see how many miles/kilometers i can put on it before it disasembles into dust. I assume its gonna last maybe till Autum before it wont stick. ill be back.
Just in case i bought another 54T OEM DT swiss kit just in case.
How many times did you acutally ride it or dyou have already some durability infos on it ?
Please make another video when opening and see the rockdown
Cheers
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@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx So far so good on the *new Star Ratchet. I’d say I have about 500 or so miles on it so far. I’ll have to drop an update video once I get some more miles on it, 🚴🏽
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Can I put this in Cosmic Ksyrium 30 ?
You’ll have to conduct research on your hub to find out.
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Why you have Zeb and Bomber decals on your road bike LOL
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Is this compatible with DT swiss 370 hub?thank you
If it has the same ratchet system then Yes.
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370 has a standard pawl system
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Was looking to do this but i cant justify spending £60 for each socket to remove and replace the hub
🤔, Interesting. Shouldn’t require any special tools.
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Maybe because I’m just listening to it on my phone but I like the sound of the RSL better. The 51 sound too high-pitched almost like a whining screeching sound. The RSL sound solid, a little deeper manly sound.
RSL has a 36T. It really comes down to personal preference. I can live with either, 🙂
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You’re right I had my whole family listen and they all had various opinions
For Me, the sound is one piece of it, and the performance is the other piece. I’m interested in the *most teeth for the best performance.
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Thanks , but I'll stick to original D T
SWISS products
I heard that, 😎
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@robbarmstrong8702 good video though
Pointing at a Zipp wheel and calling it Bontrager. Right.
That’s funny. Definitely not a *Zipp wheel. Welcome to the Channel though, 😎
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Ded.not a Zipp wheel......there decals don't look that stupid
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i like 54t more
😎, #RobbArmstrong
seems like the springs in the 60 are too strong
🤔, Interesting #RobbArmstrong
why do you say this , and what would be wrong with that if they were ? just curious
I’ve been running the 60T for a while now and no issues with *springs. If they were sprung too tight or over-powering in some way, what symptoms suggest that, 🤷🏽♂️
If there’s a reason, I find it interesting to know. If it’s a statement, IMO it kinda lacks substance. Like me saying: seems like that wheelset is slow, 🤔 it sounds *random.
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Freakin MEAN hahaha
I’m *mucho Happy with my cheap investment! 🙂
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Aliexpress is the best!
Folks be either afraid or sleep on it!
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@@robbarmstrong8702 hehe right! Half my enduro bike is from Ali, including carbon frame an carbon wheels. So fas so good after 3 years of racing with them.
The 60T just sounds too much lmao. 54t sounds just right.
RIGHT! 🤣 it is a lot. The 54T is my personal favorite. I’ve been looking at a 64T, 👀
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The 60t sounds like it has chatter.
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When he says upgrade, he means downgrade.
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The crank shouldn’t have to be held still you got something wrong
*Ceramic, 👈🏽 is the problem…
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36t sounds better and is stronger than 54t or your cheap 60t
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You should probably take a closer look at your hub on the Bianchi.....your pedals aren't supposed to keep spinning like that man.....somethings too tight in there or somethings out shape and binding.....you'll get way better results if you can figure that out
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