Something most people forget to mention is that one of the main gimmicks of Concord was the cutscenes. *A full-on CGI-animated short film every single week.* And they had a roadmap spanning months. Firewalk must’ve stockpiled cinematics for far into the future-complete with storyboarding, voice acting, mo-cap, sound staging, visual effects, and an overarching story that likely would've played into the Amazon episode.
Concord was basically the tie-in game for a show that didn't exist yet. They made the game exclusively to sell the show, but then didn't bother to put the show or the game out in ways that they would build hype either for or independently of each other. And the show looks like it would've just been knockoff "Guardians of the Galaxy" meets knockoff "Cowboy Bebop" as well.
But did they actually do that? I am not sure how much of it is true but they seem to have nothing until like 2 years ago where Sony gave them another 200 mil and outsourced a ton to get the game out.
If that's true, that sounds like if the ceo or whatever pushing it to being the next star wars was a 7 year-old child. "So, so the thing like is gonna make concord awesome is like, we're gonna make like, a movie per week! An awesome movie like, with special effects and stuff, and like, big pew pew battles and like, awesome music!" It would be better if the gimmick was "once per week, we'll livestream ourselves burning stacks of money"
As far as I know there's never been a failure this catastrophic for any single piece of entertainment media. The biggest movie box office losses are net losses of around $200 million, and even though films like the lone ranger were a big loss they still pulled in an audience of millions of people, Concorde had almost negligible sales.
Yeah, how dare the blue guy known for talking about games talk about games. This is isn't even his main channel (or second channel). Concord will stay a hot topic for a while because of how crazy the situation is, so I don't know why everyone is so mad he talks about about it on a side channel that literally has the word "topic" in its name.
@@extremepayneIt still sold something like a million copies, though. And ET didn't singlehandedly crash the industry, it was the final straw that broke the camel's back. Endless trash releases just about everywhere was the culprit of that. We also get to look at ET from a present-day lens, we don't yet know if Concord's failure will cause industry-wide changes or not.
Studios chasing market trends years after they've died like a dog still chasing its tail after it's been amputated? Check Focusing more on graphical fidelity than actually compelling gameplay, character, or world design? Check. Ballooning budgets and development times somehow existing simultaneously with increasingly overworked and underpaid developers? Check. Cancelling the entire thing the second it isn't an overnight hit that prints more money than the literal US Mint? Check. Completely spaffing any hope of the game being preserved right up the wall? Check.
maybe not everything but a lot. If you add Ubisofts latest flops than you might have everything that went wrong with modern gaming (maybe still not everything but nearly everything)
"Toxic positivity" isn't just the idea that an out of touch ceo wants his project to be the biggest thing ever, it's also this mindset that you see more and more these days that you are not allowed to give negative critique during a projects development. So, if no one is allowed to point out the flaws during development, you end up with a team of yes-men and we can see the result.
I was going to mention that. Toxic positivity is the culture of the studio not just some suit. It’s a bunch of people on the ground giving each other pats on the back with no real criticism. No one to say early in the character design process, “hey these designs aren’t going to connect with players, we should rethink this.” Obviously, I wasn’t there but I imagine vocalizing criticism would’ve led being bullied by coworkers for being “toxic.” I feel like this is why we saw a dev lash out on social media. For years they are surrounded by a bunch of yes men and they convince themselves the game they are working 8 years on is great. Then it releases performs abysmally and a slew of criticism comes in, and they get shellshocked since they were in an echo chamber of positivity.
@@ApolloDawn85 I did hear a hypothesis that it's also basically a social trap if you want to keep working there, because everyone drunk the kool aid and is constantly hyping up terrible ideas, if you stop and actually say "Wait this isn't good at all", you're now viewed as the weakest link, and likely would be put on the chopping block when time comes.
It’s basically the group version of that comic where the dog is sitting in the room on fire saying “This is fine”. Anyone in the group who tries to bring up that the room is on fire is dismissed, gaslit, or treated as an enemy; only “This is fine” is an acceptable contribution.
There is a difference between criticism and crying like a child because the game is not being made specifically for you(general you, not you specifically), and I have seen far more of the latter than the former of any game being made
One aspect of the game I think people forget about is they said they had 2 years of weekly story updates planned with a video for each update. If the videos are even one minute each, that is nearly 2-hours of motion-captured, voice-acted 4K video. They may have created the equivalent of a 2-hour animated film. That could be 60mil easy.
Was it ready to go though? I imagine they had a few months already done, so that's more millions just gone. What an utter waste of time, money and talent.
Arlo one year from now, making space on his computer as he's working on his new video about Super Mario Wilds, the brand new open world mario game for the Switch New: "Alright I think it's finally safe to delete that Concord trailer now, glad to finally move on from that" Sony: "Introducing our brand new online shooter that definitely is not Concord no sire we definitely didn't make this by cobbling together the remains of our dead game"
@@ps3beatswii Sony could not pay me to put up with a f2p multiplayer-only live service dumpster fire like this. But I'm me, so maybe that's not a fair comparison. I'm sure they'd get, like, five whole Overwatch 2 players to briefly consider it.
... here I'll do you a better one for perspective The US government could have purchased, Crewed, and operated 31 Abrams tanks for that amount of money.
Sony would've probably made more money in the long run if they just revived all of their classic IP's instead of making generic live services that no one asked for.
The thing about the $400 million figure is that even if it *is* untrue like some reporters are saying, it doesn’t really matter - you could slash that figure in half and it’s still an obscene amount of money to be pouring into a game that anyone could’ve called out as a failure more than half a decade ago.
I keep rewatching the Concord trailer you looped in these vids about Concord, and to this day, I have no idea what their heist was, what the McGuffin was for, or if those antagonistic characters were also heroes, or just 1-0FFs for the trailer. Also, I’m gonna stay whelmed over the cost until more comes out about it, but I actually *Can* believe there was toxic positivity in the workplace that severely stifled any and every attempt to making the game actually good.
Since they gave the group a name (Northstar Crew) and the lizard guy looks like he was designed to be an actor wearing makeup on a movie set, I'm willing to bet the plan was to make those five in the trailer the protagonists of Concord. Lizard guy, fireball lady, redblue guy, sniper lady, and the talking shopvac were supposed to be the Luke, Laia, Han, Chewy, and C3P0. And the "Blue Buddy" they were there to intercept (the thing with the smiley face) was supposed to be the R2D2 cute thing.
What if I told you the big, yellow robot's name is literally 1-OFF. That is not a joke. That's really his name. What dimension am I even living in anymore?
I'm willing to get that Sony didn't think twice about burying Astro Bot and sabotaging Helldivers 2 because they assumed that Concord would be their massive game-of-the-year hit and they didn't need to care about those lesser titles. Good plan Sony executives, good plan.
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 Horizon design and gameplay are still fun, I did enjoy my time with it. Concord was just an another arena shooter which nobody really wanted, if they have only use the cast which they use in the trailer and do some kind of action adventure game it could have work. It is just happen to be one of the many LIIIIIIIVE SERVICE.
@@DracosKasuranibut the timing on both games were beyond horrendous. They try to put it against botw and elden ring, the series is more know as a meme because it was forced to compete against better games. Were it released any other time would had better reception at least.
@@RexZShadow I remember a jap dev saying on stage that they're delaying a game a week because of Elden Ring, either because of sales or because he wants to play it himself without obstacles and honestly, more devs should be like that guy. He's a really well known dude and I'm gonna look like an idiot for blanking on his name
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 It's a shame cause Horizon seems pretty cool to me but I've heard absolutely nothing about it because it keeps being put up against games that make big splashes. It's to the point to the point where I see the one game that seems to not be being overshadowed as a LEGO SPIN OFF and I just don't care at all
Concord's credit scroll takes 1 hour and 12 minutes. There are 1972 individuals credited with working on Concord. Considering the primary expenditure in game development is payroll, it's pretty clear that development costs were very high, even if the claim of $400 million is inaccurate. Just to reiterate, 1972 people worked on Concord - more than twice the concurrent high the game achieved.
What’s Ironic about studio execs wanting to “create the next Star Wars” is Star Wars was fighting the studio execs its entire life just to be as good as it was.
@@BrendanJSmith woah, sorry, I just reread your post and I guess I meant to reply to a comment that was complaining about how bad Star Wars is now but I replied to yours instead. Sorry about that, I agree with your point.
And as guilty pleasures as they were, the prequels took a dip in quality because those who worked on it were afraid to question “the creator of Star Wars”
@@Antasma1 Disagree. I think they were better because they were trying something new. Besides Lucas has always had the most if not all creative control on Star Wars. He had to fight execs in the beginning but was able to make a lot of money to reinvest into Star Wars and make what he wanted. Even when there were other directors he was still the one in charge. A part from A New Hope, all of George Lucas' Star Wars movies are basically indie films. Auteur theory is very real and George Lucas is an Auteur and his films are made better by his vision. The Prequels are genuine masterpieces that will only garner more appreciation over time.
Whenever I hear something along the lines of "this will be the next Star Wars", it's like a dog-whistle signaling that the product is going to be completely out of touch.
"Concord will be the next Star Wars" As I look at the cooling ashes in the smoldering ruins of Disney Star Wars, all I can think is, "Yep, mission accomplished".
There’s, like … five seconds of background characters being gay in Disney Star Wars? If you think those movies are defined by homosexuality, that doesn’t come from the films themselves.
I’m not defending the movies btw, I just think it’s ridiculous how culture war UA-camrs and the like try to make everything people care about revolve around their issues, the stuff that riles their subscribers up. People don’t like crappy Disney Star Wars? Must all come back to the “gay agenda”, “woke Hollywood”, etc. It can’t just be because the movies are bad! That narrative wouldn’t get these UA-camrs so many views!
"Toxic positivity" sounds about right, I remember some of the devs reacting to the negative trailer reception with "y'all a bunch of haters". Wasn't there a dev on the team who called everyone "talentless freaks" on Twitter? Or was that a fanboy?
Even if a dev was delusional, there are executives and producers involved and no one really vibe checked this? Or maybe the delusion goes all the way to the top. Kind of like a movie where you have to wonder if no one chimed in that this or that might suck? It's usually the fault of an overbearing producer.
So fun fact, an American F35 stealth fighter jet costs 100 million dollars. Sony could have bought 4 stealth jets if the cost of this game was actually $400000000.
3 years from now, the day after Arlo says to himself "it's definitely safe to delete that old Concord State of Play video now" it will leak that Sony plans to release _Concord: Remastered_ as a PS6 launch title.
I've been waiting for you to make another video on Concord, because in the time between the last video and this one something happened to put Concords failure into perspective: The NDA for Deadlock, a MOBA/Hero Shooter Valve is making, expired which means people can talk about playing the closed alpha that's going on. This closed, invite-only alpha, for a *MOBA* , has a higher concurrent player count then Concord could have ever had. It really puts into perspective just how hard Concord face-planted
Deadlock is a great comparison in designs too, even though its still a lot of WIP stuff (2 characters are confirmed to have total redesigns, as they're holdovers from the games previous sci-fi setting) Concord had the girl in the trailer in the black cloak, what class is she? Uhhh, maybe like some monk or ninja or possibly a wizard? Oh a fire caster? I mean....yeah ok, I guess? Deadlock: Has a guy in a red shirt, red hat, red sunglasses, smoking a cigarette with glowing orange tattoos and shooting fire out of literal finger guns? OH YEAH, he shoots fire for sure (He's also called Infernus, but it's beating a dead horse at that point)
@@jampine8268Oh, absolutely. It says so much about Concord's character design that Viscous, who is using a retextured version of Kelvin's old Neon Prime model, is still more interesting to look at than any of them. Viscous' model was quite literally thrown together, yet it's still leagues better then anything in Concord. Almost a perfect microcosm of both Concord's failings, and why switching to Deadlock was a good idea
This whole situation just makes me think of the TV producer in Smiling Friends that was just all like "Why don’t they like it? We spent 250 million dollars on this!" except it's played straight.
How does it keep getting worse for Concord? Its like a trainwreck that caught on fire, burnt the entire train to a crisp, and now the train is decomposing from all the fire damage.
It's more like a trainwreck that went back up on rails to go to the nearest train station, caught on fire as it entered said train station and now the fire spread to the train station and is burnint everything in sight
Whoever is responsible for editing this videos. Please make a poorly made recreation of the trailer on paint or something. I can’t keep watching the original trailer again and again 😵💫
@@ChaosZero1031 The toxic positivity thing, as if it already didn't make sense before, is made 10x more believable upon learning this knowledge. That just doesn't _happen_ to be in a video game by accident. How funny that the credits are packed with more content worth seeing than the game lol.
Worst part is, im not tired of hearing about Concord's flop yet. This should go down in history and used in economic classes on how to not run companies
I'll always enjoy coming back to make fun of this game, but also, this COULD be what triggers a shift in the AAA space. Maybe. I hope. Always worth talking about.
Don't listen to the haters Arlo. This is exactly what we TopicArlo viewers signed up for. I will watch Arlo talk about Concord. I would watch Arlo talk about the latest Marvel movie trailer. I would even watch Arlo talk about the presidential debates. This is basically the ArloYaps channel and I'm here for it. Arlo is love Arlo is life
That episode that will talk about concord as if it was a success tells you media companies could go so far up their own egos that they believe the crap they create is gold. They gambled so hard on success that they had already made a documentary
I was waiting for Arlo to talk about Concord’s $400 million budget. Honestly it is perfectly fine to talk about Concord’s failure Arlo. We haven’t seen a failure like this in the gaming industry since ever.
I cannot comprehend how they thought concord was interesting enough to create wide acclaim. Like its so blatant how substanceless it is and if im learning anything from my recommended youtube videos, theres tons of artists out there calling out the lack of creative character design, which should be one of the standout features of a franchise. Theres no heart in concord, theres no artistic passion. If there is, the corporate intervention layer is so thick over the top of it that its unrecognizable. Truly ridiculous.
Concord: -hundreds of developers -8 years to develop -$100-400m to develop -sold less than 60k copies Balatro: -developed by one Canadian guy -2.5 years to develop -sold more than 2 million copies
Undertale Made by like 2 people for dirt cheap Sold for dirt cheap Sells 5 million copies on Steam alone, rakes in over $100,000,000, and becomes a cultural phenomenon
just for the record in case anyone was wondering the alleged cost of production for this video game exceeded the Yearly military budget of over 50% of the countries on planet earth🤣
And the worst part is that the CEO guy that comes up with this will stay up there with monthly payment And artists and programmers down here will get layoffs instead
I have no clue where people get that idea. They had a few remakes and remasters. But Bulk of this gen were great exclusives. TLOU remake, Helldivers2, Stellar Blade, Rise Or Ronin, FF7Rebirth(the best game I've played this gen), Astrobot, Silent Hill 2, cOnCoRd just this year alone. then they have their indie line up with Ultros, Tower of aghasba, Little Devil inside. They do need to increase their volume and need more passionate low development cost, medium returns games and leave the live service gamble behind (apart from the few very successful ones they have already)
@@bingbong9076 FF7 Rebirth is not a remake. Its nothing like the original. It's about as much as a remake is as Witcher games are of the books. An excellent title regardless But yes two remakes and one game that should've never existed. This is also just this year
That guy mentioned that 400$ price tag did not include the buying of the studio. Now look at the length of concords credits, compared it to say GTA, and suddenly that price tag makes a lot more sense.
1.5x the length of GTA's credits apparently. Hyena's, a similar project made by Sega (that also flopped for the exact same reason), was also said to cost 200 million to develop, I can see Sony doubling that easily. This is just where these budgets are at now, it's why Nintendo keeps their hardware scaled back. They can't even get the projects done with one studio, they have to outsource tons of stuff. AAA games back in the day made by ~20 people still cost millions to develop over a couple years. Hundreds of people working for nearly a decade adds up quick. The more people you have working on something the more of a mess it is to put together too, management gets more complex, you need to start adding in all sorts of other stuff like HR, all these recent projects also outsource to multiple studios. The Insomniac leaks said Spiderman 2 was 300 million, and that AAA development desperately needs to be scaled back. That sequel cost TRIPLE the amount of the first game, for no no easily discernible reason. These companies have just gotten so big they don't know what anyone is doing or where anything is going anymore. The executives are just out to lunch, throwing money away as inefficiently as possible with the mentality that as long as they keep spending more than the competition it's impossible to fail.
$400M is more than any GTA, TLOU, Insomniac Spiderman, or FF game. The only games that have a bigger budget are: Genshin Impact Destiny (2) Monopoly Go (almost entirely in marketing) Star Citizen (yes, the one that still hasn’t and won’t ever release) Cyberpunk 2077 (only if you count the cost of 1.0, 2.0, and Phantom Liberty all as one game)
The executives paid themselves multi-million dollar bonuses and the management got massive salaries for an 8-year development cycle for doing basically nothing. They won. The ones who lost are the investors, players, and developers. 🥴🥴
$400m over 8 years with a US northwest fully loaded per person cost (salary, taxes, insurance, office, management, etc...) of $200k pa is an average of 250 people on the team. It sounds reasonable, it will be end loaded, so fewer people at the start and more at the end, but that's not a huge number of people for that kind of studio.
Metroid Prime 4 when it releases will have been (at least) 8 years in development, starting over midway of the process. Guaranteed it will not have cost 400 million dollars when it does
My uncle, a staunch capitalist, upon getting the bullet points on Concord from me(made to be Sony’s next Fortnite money printer, servers shut down in first two weeks, spent eight-nine years in development) immediately said, with absolute certainty, “That game was made to fail.” Amongst these types I notice a bit of… difficulty shaking a certain article of faith, no matter how often evidence to the contrary comes to light. And this is the belief that all of the money and manpower and education somehow produces better, more rational decisions at the executive level that will undoubtedly result in profit. It’s a very reasonable belief, but it’s wrong, and so, when something comes along and makes this big of a splash, proves it this wrong, those keen observers can’t help but feel a little lost at sea.
Mhm. That certainly sounds like a snowball effect leading to the 400 million dollar count. If we just throw more money at this like we did 2 months, 10 months, 2 years ago, etc. then that will surely solve more problems than it would cause! Oh wow. This is irredeemably terrible.
If that number is remotely true, it’s because of the CGI. The cutscenes look really, really good and are clearly done with meticulous attention to detail and high quality mocapping. That ain’t cheap. That also ain’t quick, and they’d committed to weekly cutscenes. How many of them do you think they had in the tank before launch? Three months or so? That’s a feature film.
"they didn't market it" I mean... as someone working at Gamestop they were trying to get us to push it HARD like, I believe that they were marketing it a lot more than it seems tbh
It makes me wonder what they are going to do with the Concord episode in Secret Level if they have animated an entire episode for the game that does not even exist now
I don't know how to believe that they've shut it down permanently just 2 weeks after launch. I get that day 1 is the only statistic the execs care about, but so many games have been improved down the line after launch. You can still buy Redfall these days, and reception never even turned around for that game!
What I’ll never understand is how come these people convinced investors to get into this crap by saying “this is what people want”. Let alone $400M, you cannot let those investors to give you even $10K for a cause that really matters. I honestly respect their cojones. What I fear is they introduced Concord as Playstation’s future and there must several other titles in making (Ghost of Jotei is one them). Hope they are not following Concord’s footsteps in terms of character development. If it’s so, hope they already started to fix it.
I didn't even know Concord existed until after it didn't exist. It seems the game is getting way more marketing out of failing than it did leading up to launch.
The main reason I believe in the 400 million dollar number is because reality is stranger than fiction and that would be hilarious. Examples include: The first fax sent by the Xerox company occurred while people were still on the Oregon Trail. Tiffany, as a name, has been around since about the 1100s, from what I understand. And water is The byproduct of an explosion.
Honestly, if they made this game into Single Player with in-depth story, maybe this could've been worth it.. we never really had much hero shooter single player games like Borderlands so that would've been a good opportunity for Sony.
Concord has generated more money for Arlo than it ever did for Sony
lmao ok thats it, this is the funniest thing Ive read today
I guess Concord WAS a massive success after all. 🤣
Everyone and their grandma.
No, seriously.
We all made more than Sony did on Concord
Or ever will
Arlo is not addicted to talking about Concord, he can stop ANYTIME HE WANTS!!
Concord is the gift that keeps on giving... everything except money, because it keeps losing that as we speak.
Mans just having a victory lap, let him be :3
Same with talking about Switch 2
Arlo is pretty much the no.1 concord fan
Due to lack of competition for that title
@@jjrsbigo to be so fair that is literally his job
The Concord trailer will remain on Arlo's PC until the end of time at this rate
Tbf, i bet it cost a pretty penny so at least someone is getting some use out of it 🤷♂️
Until Concord 2, at least. Which will definitely happen.
@@sneakytrip6594 Concord 2: The Concordening
oneshot :D
The characters still look so bad but I gotta say the environments and the objects look so good
I DONT'T WANT TO SEE THE GREEN GUY AND THE HOT SAUCE EVER AGAIN STOP THIS MADNESS
YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE THE HOT SAUCE
@@teamchaos5101 WE CAN'T MAKE YOU CARE ABOUT THE GREEN GUY THOUGH
THE HOT SAUCE NEVER ENDS. WE'RE STUCK IN THE HOT SAUCE DIMENSION FROM THIS POINT ONWARDS.
YOU WILL DRINK THE HOT SAUCE!
AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY!
HE HAS A NAME, HE’S CALLED LIZARDON
Something most people forget to mention is that one of the main gimmicks of Concord was the cutscenes. *A full-on CGI-animated short film every single week.* And they had a roadmap spanning months. Firewalk must’ve stockpiled cinematics for far into the future-complete with storyboarding, voice acting, mo-cap, sound staging, visual effects, and an overarching story that likely would've played into the Amazon episode.
Concord was basically the tie-in game for a show that didn't exist yet. They made the game exclusively to sell the show, but then didn't bother to put the show or the game out in ways that they would build hype either for or independently of each other. And the show looks like it would've just been knockoff "Guardians of the Galaxy" meets knockoff "Cowboy Bebop" as well.
oh yeah, in that regard, the "400 millions" figure seems a tiny bit mroe believeable (even if still exxagerated).
But did they actually do that? I am not sure how much of it is true but they seem to have nothing until like 2 years ago where Sony gave them another 200 mil and outsourced a ton to get the game out.
If that's true, that sounds like if the ceo or whatever pushing it to being the next star wars was a 7 year-old child. "So, so the thing like is gonna make concord awesome is like, we're gonna make like, a movie per week! An awesome movie like, with special effects and stuff, and like, big pew pew battles and like, awesome music!"
It would be better if the gimmick was "once per week, we'll livestream ourselves burning stacks of money"
Yeah, this. You can't just whip those up in a week, they have to be prepared. They definitely spent _a lot_ on cutscenes (and graphics in general).
I hate that green guy and his sauce.
The girl with the attitude ain't much better. lol
I'm so sick of this trailer after accidentally watching it so many times in videos like this lol
I curse Arlo for subjecting us poor defenseless viewers to this trailer for the 100th time in a row
@@omicronalpha8827 The game was cancelled after 12 days. There's no more footage of it that he can use. lol
@@PedroMatos482 seriously, we can’t even hear the trailer in these videos and yet I still tend to turn my phone away and just listen, it’s that bad
"UMMM WHY DOES ARLO KEEP TALKING ABOUT CONCORD?" because there has literally never, ever been a failure this catastrophic in the games industry before
As far as I know there's never been a failure this catastrophic for any single piece of entertainment media. The biggest movie box office losses are net losses of around $200 million, and even though films like the lone ranger were a big loss they still pulled in an audience of millions of people, Concorde had almost negligible sales.
idk i think ET technically counts as more catastrophic given it crashed the entire industry for 3 years, even if it cost far less to make
@@DorgpoopOh, man, I remember Lone Ranger. Super mid.
Yeah, how dare the blue guy known for talking about games talk about games. This is isn't even his main channel (or second channel). Concord will stay a hot topic for a while because of how crazy the situation is, so I don't know why everyone is so mad he talks about about it on a side channel that literally has the word "topic" in its name.
@@extremepayneIt still sold something like a million copies, though. And ET didn't singlehandedly crash the industry, it was the final straw that broke the camel's back. Endless trash releases just about everywhere was the culprit of that.
We also get to look at ET from a present-day lens, we don't yet know if Concord's failure will cause industry-wide changes or not.
Concord is the gift that keeps on giving in the matter of demonstrating everything wrong with modern high-budget game development.
Studios chasing market trends years after they've died like a dog still chasing its tail after it's been amputated? Check
Focusing more on graphical fidelity than actually compelling gameplay, character, or world design? Check.
Ballooning budgets and development times somehow existing simultaneously with increasingly overworked and underpaid developers? Check.
Cancelling the entire thing the second it isn't an overnight hit that prints more money than the literal US Mint? Check.
Completely spaffing any hope of the game being preserved right up the wall? Check.
It's the grift* that keeps on giving
maybe not everything but a lot.
If you add Ubisofts latest flops than you might have everything that went wrong with modern gaming (maybe still not everything but nearly everything)
It's the Live Service bubble that finally popped
Except a $70 price tag and an infestation of microtransactions. They surprisingly showed restraint on that front.
"Toxic positivity" isn't just the idea that an out of touch ceo wants his project to be the biggest thing ever, it's also this mindset that you see more and more these days that you are not allowed to give negative critique during a projects development. So, if no one is allowed to point out the flaws during development, you end up with a team of yes-men and we can see the result.
I was going to mention that. Toxic positivity is the culture of the studio not just some suit. It’s a bunch of people on the ground giving each other pats on the back with no real criticism. No one to say early in the character design process, “hey these designs aren’t going to connect with players, we should rethink this.” Obviously, I wasn’t there but I imagine vocalizing criticism would’ve led being bullied by coworkers for being “toxic.”
I feel like this is why we saw a dev lash out on social media. For years they are surrounded by a bunch of yes men and they convince themselves the game they are working 8 years on is great. Then it releases performs abysmally and a slew of criticism comes in, and they get shellshocked since they were in an echo chamber of positivity.
toxic positvity is pretty common now or days in fandom's as well
@@ApolloDawn85 I did hear a hypothesis that it's also basically a social trap if you want to keep working there, because everyone drunk the kool aid and is constantly hyping up terrible ideas, if you stop and actually say "Wait this isn't good at all", you're now viewed as the weakest link, and likely would be put on the chopping block when time comes.
It’s basically the group version of that comic where the dog is sitting in the room on fire saying “This is fine”. Anyone in the group who tries to bring up that the room is on fire is dismissed, gaslit, or treated as an enemy; only “This is fine” is an acceptable contribution.
There is a difference between criticism and crying like a child because the game is not being made specifically for you(general you, not you specifically), and I have seen far more of the latter than the former of any game being made
One aspect of the game I think people forget about is they said they had 2 years of weekly story updates planned with a video for each update. If the videos are even one minute each, that is nearly 2-hours of motion-captured, voice-acted 4K video. They may have created the equivalent of a 2-hour animated film. That could be 60mil easy.
One of the worst decisions. Nobody who wants to play an online shooter cares about such videos.
Was it ready to go though? I imagine they had a few months already done, so that's more millions just gone. What an utter waste of time, money and talent.
@@alexh7513 People were really into the Overwatch and TF2 videos. But you have to get them to care about the game---or characters---first.
@@alexh7513Tell that to the millions of Overwatch fans who wanted the story mode content.
@@alexh7513 tf2's meet the team are beloved by its community so i disagree
The Concord trailer will be in his computer longer than the game was available lmao
I can hardly imagine it hasn't already been.
Please don't delete the trailer this time, Arlo. You'll probably need it for your end of year retrospective.
NO MORE GREEN MAN FOOTAGE I SWEAR
AM GOING INSANE WITH THE SUACE BOTTLE TWIRL
SUACE INSANITY!
Arlo one year from now, making space on his computer as he's working on his new video about Super Mario Wilds, the brand new open world mario game for the Switch New: "Alright I think it's finally safe to delete that Concord trailer now, glad to finally move on from that"
Sony: "Introducing our brand new online shooter that definitely is not Concord no sire we definitely didn't make this by cobbling together the remains of our dead game"
Calling it now, the Switch successor will be called the Nintendo Snap
I really hope concord shows back up as a f2p. We need to make it flop a second time.
@@ps3beatswii Sony could not pay me to put up with a f2p multiplayer-only live service dumpster fire like this. But I'm me, so maybe that's not a fair comparison. I'm sure they'd get, like, five whole Overwatch 2 players to briefly consider it.
This is my favorite Concord channel
Mine too
For perspective, Lost Island, a highly themed amusement park built in Iowa a couple years ago, cost 100 million dollars
Take an upvote for mentioning Lost Island, it’s a cool place that’s getting a great new roller coaster next year!
Lost Island representation for the win lol
... here I'll do you a better one for perspective The US government could have purchased, Crewed, and operated 31 Abrams tanks for that amount of money.
For perspective, this 400 million number is made up
@@LadyBits2023 Wow, Abrams are surprisingly affordable for military vehicles.
Imagine all of the Sly Cooper games Sony could have made with all of that money!
This one hurts.
It would be at least seven
Would be cool if they resolved that 11 year old cliffhanger
Imagine all of the people Sony wouldn't have had to lay off with all of that money
Sony would've probably made more money in the long run if they just revived all of their classic IP's instead of making generic live services that no one asked for.
Concord is now the world record holder for longest corpse to decay in history because holy shit it's still going.
What? Game was dead on announcement.
@@Luv_SammyStill rotting though
It hasn't been that long
Well there is that mammoth. Also that Moa foot.
Drake
The thing about the $400 million figure is that even if it *is* untrue like some reporters are saying, it doesn’t really matter - you could slash that figure in half and it’s still an obscene amount of money to be pouring into a game that anyone could’ve called out as a failure more than half a decade ago.
even if it were a tenth of that it would seem like a lot
I keep rewatching the Concord trailer you looped in these vids about Concord, and to this day, I have no idea what their heist was, what the McGuffin was for, or if those antagonistic characters were also heroes, or just 1-0FFs for the trailer.
Also, I’m gonna stay whelmed over the cost until more comes out about it, but I actually *Can* believe there was toxic positivity in the workplace that severely stifled any and every attempt to making the game actually good.
Since they gave the group a name (Northstar Crew) and the lizard guy looks like he was designed to be an actor wearing makeup on a movie set, I'm willing to bet the plan was to make those five in the trailer the protagonists of Concord. Lizard guy, fireball lady, redblue guy, sniper lady, and the talking shopvac were supposed to be the Luke, Laia, Han, Chewy, and C3P0. And the "Blue Buddy" they were there to intercept (the thing with the smiley face) was supposed to be the R2D2 cute thing.
What if I told you the big, yellow robot's name is literally 1-OFF. That is not a joke. That's really his name. What dimension am I even living in anymore?
@@RJS2003WHAT
I JUST LOOKED IT UP AND IT IS
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174I mean it was on screen every time the character intro clip for his gameplay game up so… 😂
@@halyoalex8942 you think i pay attention to the screen long enough to read text?
At this point, Concord has been more profitable for Arlo than for Sony
There is not a person on this earth for whom Concord has not been more profitable than it has for Sony.
You could never interact or know Concord exists and it would still be more profitable for you than Sony.
By commenting this, you have profited off of Concord more than Sony
I'm willing to get that Sony didn't think twice about burying Astro Bot and sabotaging Helldivers 2 because they assumed that Concord would be their massive game-of-the-year hit and they didn't need to care about those lesser titles.
Good plan Sony executives, good plan.
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 Horizon design and gameplay are still fun, I did enjoy my time with it. Concord was just an another arena shooter which nobody really wanted, if they have only use the cast which they use in the trailer and do some kind of action adventure game it could have work. It is just happen to be one of the many LIIIIIIIVE SERVICE.
@@DracosKasuranibut the timing on both games were beyond horrendous. They try to put it against botw and elden ring, the series is more know as a meme because it was forced to compete against better games. Were it released any other time would had better reception at least.
@@RexZShadow I remember a jap dev saying on stage that they're delaying a game a week because of Elden Ring, either because of sales or because he wants to play it himself without obstacles and honestly, more devs should be like that guy. He's a really well known dude and I'm gonna look like an idiot for blanking on his name
@asdadsgsaadasf6043 Hulst is from that studio, so obviously everything they touch is gold.
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 It's a shame cause Horizon seems pretty cool to me but I've heard absolutely nothing about it because it keeps being put up against games that make big splashes. It's to the point to the point where I see the one game that seems to not be being overshadowed as a LEGO SPIN OFF and I just don't care at all
Concord's credit scroll takes 1 hour and 12 minutes.
There are 1972 individuals credited with working on Concord.
Considering the primary expenditure in game development is payroll, it's pretty clear that development costs were very high, even if the claim of $400 million is inaccurate.
Just to reiterate, 1972 people worked on Concord - more than twice the concurrent high the game achieved.
I wish I was worth 1 hour and 12 minutes.
$400 million? That's almost enough to buy a couple PS5 Pros!
You could buy at least seven hundred of them
@@teamchaos5101 Maybe with a coupon
You could get a "gently used" 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro with that kinda money
As a bean, I feel spilled.
love your channel bro
@@zagraflicks hey thanks!
Seconding the other guy, your videos are funny af. love to see it, patiently waiting for more
Idk who you are unlike the other 2 so :
**flicks you**
@@HazeEmry don't flick the bean! not here!
What’s Ironic about studio execs wanting to “create the next Star Wars” is Star Wars was fighting the studio execs its entire life just to be as good as it was.
Mob say Star Wars bad now, me think Star War bad now.
@@km10isyou have missed the point entirely.
@@BrendanJSmith woah, sorry, I just reread your post and I guess I meant to reply to a comment that was complaining about how bad Star Wars is now but I replied to yours instead. Sorry about that, I agree with your point.
And as guilty pleasures as they were, the prequels took a dip in quality because those who worked on it were afraid to question “the creator of Star Wars”
@@Antasma1 Disagree. I think they were better because they were trying something new. Besides Lucas has always had the most if not all creative control on Star Wars. He had to fight execs in the beginning but was able to make a lot of money to reinvest into Star Wars and make what he wanted. Even when there were other directors he was still the one in charge. A part from A New Hope, all of George Lucas' Star Wars movies are basically indie films. Auteur theory is very real and George Lucas is an Auteur and his films are made better by his vision. The Prequels are genuine masterpieces that will only garner more appreciation over time.
Whenever I hear something along the lines of "this will be the next Star Wars", it's like a dog-whistle signaling that the product is going to be completely out of touch.
"Concord will be the next Star Wars"
As I look at the cooling ashes in the smoldering ruins of Disney Star Wars, all I can think is, "Yep, mission accomplished".
It's got the emptiness and the muddiness down pat, but it's not gay enough to be a successor to 21st-century Star Wars.
at least star wars had fans
There’s, like … five seconds of background characters being gay in Disney Star Wars?
If you think those movies are defined by homosexuality, that doesn’t come from the films themselves.
I’m not defending the movies btw, I just think it’s ridiculous how culture war UA-camrs and the like try to make everything people care about revolve around their issues, the stuff that riles their subscribers up.
People don’t like crappy Disney Star Wars? Must all come back to the “gay agenda”, “woke Hollywood”, etc. It can’t just be because the movies are bad! That narrative wouldn’t get these UA-camrs so many views!
There were gay space witches in this game?
"Toxic positivity" sounds about right, I remember some of the devs reacting to the negative trailer reception with "y'all a bunch of haters". Wasn't there a dev on the team who called everyone "talentless freaks" on Twitter? Or was that a fanboy?
I believe it was a dev
Nope, that was 100% a dev
Wasn't sure, thanks for the info. I wonder how dumb that dev feels now lol, IIRC they locked their Twitter account not long after.
Even if a dev was delusional, there are executives and producers involved and no one really vibe checked this? Or maybe the delusion goes all the way to the top. Kind of like a movie where you have to wonder if no one chimed in that this or that might suck? It's usually the fault of an overbearing producer.
They worked on the game but weren't a part of Firewalk at the time of the tweet.
So fun fact, an American F35 stealth fighter jet costs 100 million dollars. Sony could have bought 4 stealth jets if the cost of this game was actually $400000000.
3 years from now, the day after Arlo says to himself "it's definitely safe to delete that old Concord State of Play video now" it will leak that Sony plans to release _Concord: Remastered_ as a PS6 launch title.
That would be hilarious
with all the extra pixels to see the green guy's sauce in 8K
@@davidtitanium22 now with extra sauce physics 😂
They spent 10 million dollars on the hot sauce physics alone
And another 30 million on the purple slop physics.
I've been waiting for you to make another video on Concord, because in the time between the last video and this one something happened to put Concords failure into perspective: The NDA for Deadlock, a MOBA/Hero Shooter Valve is making, expired which means people can talk about playing the closed alpha that's going on. This closed, invite-only alpha, for a *MOBA* , has a higher concurrent player count then Concord could have ever had.
It really puts into perspective just how hard Concord face-planted
Deadlock is a great comparison in designs too, even though its still a lot of WIP stuff (2 characters are confirmed to have total redesigns, as they're holdovers from the games previous sci-fi setting)
Concord had the girl in the trailer in the black cloak, what class is she? Uhhh, maybe like some monk or ninja or possibly a wizard?
Oh a fire caster? I mean....yeah ok, I guess?
Deadlock: Has a guy in a red shirt, red hat, red sunglasses, smoking a cigarette with glowing orange tattoos and shooting fire out of literal finger guns?
OH YEAH, he shoots fire for sure
(He's also called Infernus, but it's beating a dead horse at that point)
@@jampine8268Oh, absolutely. It says so much about Concord's character design that Viscous, who is using a retextured version of Kelvin's old Neon Prime model, is still more interesting to look at than any of them. Viscous' model was quite literally thrown together, yet it's still leagues better then anything in Concord. Almost a perfect microcosm of both Concord's failings, and why switching to Deadlock was a good idea
This whole situation just makes me think of the TV producer in Smiling Friends that was just all like "Why don’t they like it? We spent 250 million dollars on this!" except it's played straight.
A few has already memed that scene in reaction to the game’s failure. I’ve heard stranger than fiction, but damn
I don't know if you timed it this way on purpose, but the facial expression at 1:18 right when you say "$400 million" is priceless
How does it keep getting worse for Concord? Its like a trainwreck that caught on fire, burnt the entire train to a crisp, and now the train is decomposing from all the fire damage.
It's more like a trainwreck that went back up on rails to go to the nearest train station, caught on fire as it entered said train station and now the fire spread to the train station and is burnint everything in sight
More like a train who keeps going while burning, it will burn the track and fall to the pit once it gets back to where it started
and the train was carrying heavy metals, nuclear waste, and unexploded ordnance.
The train derailed, fell into a lake, burned to a crisp underwater (somehow) and now the fish are eating the decomposing carcass.
The recovery crew and scavengers have gotten trapped within the smoldering wreckage and now are burning alive, that's how
Just put the Concord footage in its own special folder at this point
Good idea, don't want it stinking up the other files. Best to keep it isolated.
quarantine zone
"it's gonna be the next star wars"
Monkey paw effect
Whoever is responsible for editing this videos. Please make a poorly made recreation of the trailer on paint or something.
I can’t keep watching the original trailer again and again 😵💫
lol same
Yeah can't you use like a launch trailer or something?
...... you don't have to watch, this channel does perfectly fine without the visuals.
You will continue to watch it until it’s burned into your memory
Recreate it in SFM with TF2 characters.
This is what happens when you try to make fetch happen and you treat a new IP like it's already the biggest thing in the world.
You could have bought at least 25000 people a Big Mac combo meal with that money
Only 25.000 people ? That surorises me more actually 😂
Inflation must've really gotten out of hand if a Big Mac combo meal costs $16k
r/technicallythetruth
@@crocodileman94 It's true, I'm a Big Mac meal and I cost $16k
Actually ~50,000,000 people
Arlo is gonna turn into a grape with how much Corcord videos there are.
Nice, I'm quite the fan of those grapes
Aaaah, Concord grapes! So THAT'S the purple stuff the green guy is eating.
Wait till Arlo realizes the credits are over an hour long.
And those credits apparently also have a button made so players could use it to cheer and celebrate them for doing a "good job".
@@ChaosZero1031 "Please clap."
Apparently they're really only 36 minutes, but someone put them up at half speed for the lolz. Because 36 minutes wasn't bad enough, I guess.
@@ChaosZero1031 The toxic positivity thing, as if it already didn't make sense before, is made 10x more believable upon learning this knowledge.
That just doesn't _happen_ to be in a video game by accident.
How funny that the credits are packed with more content worth seeing than the game lol.
By now Concord has been dead for longer than it was alive
Worst part is, im not tired of hearing about Concord's flop yet. This should go down in history and used in economic classes on how to not run companies
I'll always enjoy coming back to make fun of this game, but also, this COULD be what triggers a shift in the AAA space. Maybe. I hope. Always worth talking about.
nobody will learn anything and the customers will eat the cost
Don't listen to the haters Arlo. This is exactly what we TopicArlo viewers signed up for. I will watch Arlo talk about Concord. I would watch Arlo talk about the latest Marvel movie trailer. I would even watch Arlo talk about the presidential debates. This is basically the ArloYaps channel and I'm here for it. Arlo is love Arlo is life
Arlo is love Arlo is life
Arlo has made more videos on Concord than there were people who played Concord
That episode that will talk about concord as if it was a success tells you media companies could go so far up their own egos that they believe the crap they create is gold. They gambled so hard on success that they had already made a documentary
I love when arlo trips over himself over and over.
"Call me a Milker.... Please dont"
"Im gonna keep mmm...covering this"
Lolololololo
Every con has its cord
I was waiting for Arlo to talk about Concord’s $400 million budget. Honestly it is perfectly fine to talk about Concord’s failure Arlo. We haven’t seen a failure like this in the gaming industry since ever.
DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY SLY COOPER 5S THEY COULD HAVE MADE WITH THAT MONEY
With how they (don't) budget their game dev spending... probably only 2.
But that's still 2 better games than Concord!
"concord will be the next star wars"
I mean, they weren't wrong.
I cannot comprehend how they thought concord was interesting enough to create wide acclaim. Like its so blatant how substanceless it is and if im learning anything from my recommended youtube videos, theres tons of artists out there calling out the lack of creative character design, which should be one of the standout features of a franchise. Theres no heart in concord, theres no artistic passion. If there is, the corporate intervention layer is so thick over the top of it that its unrecognizable. Truly ridiculous.
Starting this video with "Job: Intercept Blue Buddy" must have been intentional 🤣 Arlo, they're after you!
They got their wish. Concord was the next Star Wars. Disney+ Star Wars, that is.
Concord:
-hundreds of developers
-8 years to develop
-$100-400m to develop
-sold less than 60k copies
Balatro:
-developed by one Canadian guy
-2.5 years to develop
-sold more than 2 million copies
E.T:
-5 week to develop
-made by one person
-sold 1.5 million copy
-wrongfully blamed for being the cause of video game crash
Even as someone who doesn't like Balatro, I 100% get it.
Undertale
Made by like 2 people for dirt cheap
Sold for dirt cheap
Sells 5 million copies on Steam alone, rakes in over $100,000,000, and becomes a cultural phenomenon
This man is (whether he likes it or not) single-handedly giving Concord the most coverage out of anybody
Between him and Asmongold.
@@komi___oh god not asmongold
just for the record in case anyone was wondering the alleged cost of production for this video game exceeded the Yearly military budget of over 50% of the countries on planet earth🤣
It's that bowl of onions and hot sauce again
And the worst part is that the CEO guy that comes up with this will stay up there with monthly payment
And artists and programmers down here will get layoffs instead
Arlo slowly becoming a Concord Yter was not on my 2024 bingo card
I feel like the reason Sonys entire lineup is just remasters/remakes this gen is because their plan to make everything live-service failed horribly.
I have no clue where people get that idea. They had a few remakes and remasters. But Bulk of this gen were great exclusives.
TLOU remake, Helldivers2, Stellar Blade, Rise Or Ronin, FF7Rebirth(the best game I've played this gen), Astrobot, Silent Hill 2, cOnCoRd just this year alone. then they have their indie line up with Ultros, Tower of aghasba, Little Devil inside.
They do need to increase their volume and need more passionate low development cost, medium returns games and leave the live service gamble behind (apart from the few very successful ones they have already)
@@ॐIo You listed three remakes in there and one game that no longer exists ...
@@bingbong9076 FF7 Rebirth is not a remake. Its nothing like the original. It's about as much as a remake is as Witcher games are of the books. An excellent title regardless
But yes two remakes and one game that should've never existed. This is also just this year
That guy mentioned that 400$ price tag did not include the buying of the studio. Now look at the length of concords credits, compared it to say GTA, and suddenly that price tag makes a lot more sense.
1.5x the length of GTA's credits apparently. Hyena's, a similar project made by Sega (that also flopped for the exact same reason), was also said to cost 200 million to develop, I can see Sony doubling that easily. This is just where these budgets are at now, it's why Nintendo keeps their hardware scaled back. They can't even get the projects done with one studio, they have to outsource tons of stuff. AAA games back in the day made by ~20 people still cost millions to develop over a couple years. Hundreds of people working for nearly a decade adds up quick.
The more people you have working on something the more of a mess it is to put together too, management gets more complex, you need to start adding in all sorts of other stuff like HR, all these recent projects also outsource to multiple studios. The Insomniac leaks said Spiderman 2 was 300 million, and that AAA development desperately needs to be scaled back. That sequel cost TRIPLE the amount of the first game, for no no easily discernible reason. These companies have just gotten so big they don't know what anyone is doing or where anything is going anymore. The executives are just out to lunch, throwing money away as inefficiently as possible with the mentality that as long as they keep spending more than the competition it's impossible to fail.
$400M is more than any GTA, TLOU, Insomniac Spiderman, or FF game. The only games that have a bigger budget are:
Genshin Impact
Destiny (2)
Monopoly Go (almost entirely in marketing)
Star Citizen (yes, the one that still hasn’t and won’t ever release)
Cyberpunk 2077 (only if you count the cost of 1.0, 2.0, and Phantom Liberty all as one game)
What's TLOU? I know GTA is Grand Theft Auto, FF is Final Fantasy, and Spider-Man is just Spider-Man.
@@PWPictures67 The Last of Us
400 million is most likely wrong insiders claim it cost at most 200 million.
@@THEONETRUEOVERLORD yeah i know its contested the video goes over that. just wanted to give a point of comparison in case it ends up being true
I wanna say RDR2 & Destiny had similar or bigger or comparable budgets, but not 100%.
The executives paid themselves multi-million dollar bonuses and the management got massive salaries for an 8-year development cycle for doing basically nothing. They won. The ones who lost are the investors, players, and developers. 🥴🥴
They didn't do "nothing" the game had a lot of polish. But it's a dorodango in front of polished gemstones
@@ॐIo the polish came from the devs, not the execs
the original commenter was saying that the execs did nothing
The developers are not wholly innocent on this one. They perpetuated a lot of the toxic positivity where no criticism was allowed.
@@TKDBoy1889 not defending what they did, but after spending that much time and effort on it? yeah i get it if they dont like people dismissing it
@@TKDBoy1889 I get that, but I was talking more about the devs getting laid off so that the execs can pay themselves even bigger bonuses.
"Some executive has an idea of what *they* want...wanting to make the next Star Wars, but not knowing how to do it."
Fun fact: Ive seen this trailer more than Ive seen prime 4's trailer
And still, you will buy Prime 4 and have not bought Concord.
@@Kuatier exactly
I’m constantly happy seeing more Arlo talks about the Concord madness videos. It’s incredibly entertaining to me.
Considering that it was supposedly in development for 8 years, $400m honestly doesn't seem unrealistic.
$400m over 8 years with a US northwest fully loaded per person cost (salary, taxes, insurance, office, management, etc...) of $200k pa is an average of 250 people on the team.
It sounds reasonable, it will be end loaded, so fewer people at the start and more at the end, but that's not a huge number of people for that kind of studio.
Metroid Prime 4 when it releases will have been (at least) 8 years in development, starting over midway of the process. Guaranteed it will not have cost 400 million dollars when it does
Concord may be my favorite game of 2024. Few games have given me such entertainment.
My uncle, a staunch capitalist, upon getting the bullet points on Concord from me(made to be Sony’s next Fortnite money printer, servers shut down in first two weeks, spent eight-nine years in development) immediately said, with absolute certainty, “That game was made to fail.”
Amongst these types I notice a bit of… difficulty shaking a certain article of faith, no matter how often evidence to the contrary comes to light. And this is the belief that all of the money and manpower and education somehow produces better, more rational decisions at the executive level that will undoubtedly result in profit.
It’s a very reasonable belief, but it’s wrong, and so, when something comes along and makes this big of a splash, proves it this wrong, those keen observers can’t help but feel a little lost at sea.
Mhm. That certainly sounds like a snowball effect leading to the 400 million dollar count. If we just throw more money at this like we did 2 months, 10 months, 2 years ago, etc. then that will surely solve more problems than it would cause! Oh wow. This is irredeemably terrible.
If that number is remotely true, it’s because of the CGI. The cutscenes look really, really good and are clearly done with meticulous attention to detail and high quality mocapping. That ain’t cheap. That also ain’t quick, and they’d committed to weekly cutscenes. How many of them do you think they had in the tank before launch? Three months or so? That’s a feature film.
I've seen this video muted so many times that I'm tempted to watch the original just so I know what the characters are actually saying
Arlo is now my favourite milking muppet.
These Concord videos have been great advertising for hot sauce, though
400M wasted on garbage. They shoulda gave it to me.
People think big companies are "profit above all else" but it's really "what _feels_ like it shoulf make profit to leadership above all else"
"they didn't market it" I mean... as someone working at Gamestop they were trying to get us to push it HARD like, I believe that they were marketing it a lot more than it seems tbh
It makes me wonder what they are going to do with the Concord episode in Secret Level if they have animated an entire episode for the game that does not even exist now
I don't know how to believe that they've shut it down permanently just 2 weeks after launch. I get that day 1 is the only statistic the execs care about, but so many games have been improved down the line after launch. You can still buy Redfall these days, and reception never even turned around for that game!
I started watching Arlo for Paper Mario but at this point I'm just staying for Concord
It turns out Concord actually is a continuing live-service experience.
imagine how many nintendo games could be made with 400million
It would be at least seven
I don't think the price is an issue if it actually hit the Mark. It was a grand failure
I was hoping that we'd get another opportunity for Arlo to redownload the Concord trailer again
400 million to live in our heads rent-free
They can live in my house rent free for 400 million dollars.
What I’ll never understand is how come these people convinced investors to get into this crap by saying “this is what people want”. Let alone $400M, you cannot let those investors to give you even $10K for a cause that really matters. I honestly respect their cojones.
What I fear is they introduced Concord as Playstation’s future and there must several other titles in making (Ghost of Jotei is one them). Hope they are not following Concord’s footsteps in terms of character development. If it’s so, hope they already started to fix it.
The name "Concord" is the same as of the failed super expensive supersonic airplane from France. They lost billions on that.
This is definitely a Mr. Frog CEO moment
I didn't even know Concord existed until after it didn't exist. It seems the game is getting way more marketing out of failing than it did leading up to launch.
Even if you saw ads for this game, would you remember them after 10 minutes?
@@BrendanJSmith not until someone made a video that said "hey, concord died today," and i'd be like, oh wasn't that just a thing last week?
I can just imagine the look on the Sony execs’ face when they saw the total concurrent players.
"I have a family to feed!"
You can say Colin Moriarty's name.
You shouldn’t though because he’s a white supremacist
Whenever someone says “This is the next (THING)!” It literally never is.
Instant respect for using "psych" correctly.
The main reason I believe in the 400 million dollar number is because reality is stranger than fiction and that would be hilarious.
Examples include:
The first fax sent by the Xerox company occurred while people were still on the Oregon Trail.
Tiffany, as a name, has been around since about the 1100s, from what I understand.
And water is The byproduct of an explosion.
I’m gonna wager that $400 mil is actually an extremely generous understatement
you play the Concord trailer so many times I instinctually know the next scene
Honestly, if they made this game into Single Player with in-depth story, maybe this could've been worth it.. we never really had much hero shooter single player games like Borderlands so that would've been a good opportunity for Sony.
Honestly, the way they talk about it wanting to be the next Star Wars sounds a lot like how Pixar treated the Buzz Lightyear movie.