Strymon Timeline: Still Worth Getting in 2020?
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- The Strymon Timeline has been around since 2011! Since then, Strymon has released other delays and the market has caught up with other great sounding pedals. Is it time to move on or is the Timeline still worth considering in 2020? Buy it here: sweetwater.sjv.io/2111yg
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I don't play guitar, I play synths. And it's worth mentioning that the midi inputs on the strymon pedals allow you to do all sorts of interesting sequenced automations. Far more complex possibilities when you can automate the parameters. Ah yes, and the MIDI program changes allow you to do things like change the preset automatically on pattern or song changes. Lastly, switching presets is instant, so you can do things like little preset change fills on the downbeats. One Synthesizer paired with one Strymon pedal, and there's a lot you can control and modulate. Both Timeline and Bigsky really are almost their own instrument.
You must be very excited, or have already bought a hologram microcosm. That thing looks amazing.
Bought mine new last year (and paid ALL the money). I have yet to hear a delay pedal that makes me think I made a mistake. Thanks for the validation, Bill!
If you can't make great music with a Timeline, its time to get a new hobby.
Fantastic demo. What blows my mind is how no one mentions the built in looper. The looper in this machine killer, and so nice to use. And with the multi-switch you can send your loops in reverse and get a totally tripped out sound. It's wild.
Fantastic demo, love the enthusiasm, which sounds almost as good as the Timeline.
The Frippertronics long delay alone was worth watching this video for - I'd not thought of doing that. I'm going to give that a try. I also didn't know it had been around 9 years. Keep up the great work
Bought mind on Reverb about 1 year ago. I love it. You just made me want to dive into those settings. I usually avoid them. Thanks for blazing the trail.
Hey Bill, thanks for showing what the Timeline can do when you stretch out the delay, really liked the "Frippertronics" part of the demo. I just picked up a Nightsky and think it's time to get a Timeline as well. Great job!
Bought a Timeline in early 2012 loved it but then let it go in 2016 for another Eventide H9. Then in 2019 decided to sell my three H9's and get the Timeline back and a Volante and Deco as well.... Just love Strymon products especially my Big Sky!
I’m still using the boss dd-20 from at least a dozen years ago. It does everything I could ask of it, and the timeline does more! You had some great sounds here.
Just bought one yesterday for my lever harp - but I’m also a guitarist first, so either way, it’s a Win win. Love Strymon quality - thx for the video !
Indeed, the Timeline still rules.
btw. I always enjoy watching your channel, keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for all this information.
Heck, I got one 2 months ago! I've tried a bunch, and it's just the best sounding out of the box and super intuitive!
The Timeline is timeless ... ;-) I still love it!
I don’t have a timeline but will get one soon. Great video! Love your channel!
I got mine in 2015, and today, before seeing this video, I was the whole afternoon playing with it. The possibilities are endless and the quality of the sound only compare to my TC2290, which is the modern standard in my opinion. Factory presets covers all, but programming it is a lot of fun ¡¡ Thanks or the video ¡¡
I found one in local classifieds for 300 and I'm seriously tempted to snag it.
Great video. I've been considering buying one of these for a couple years...seems like this pedal can do everything you'd ever want it to do
I was just surfing UA-cam looking for new delay pedals and came upon your video.... I have to agree with you (2021). I've been using the TimeLine Since it came out (replaced my eventide timefactor) and keep looking for something new, but I keep coming back to the Timeline. One important feature I need is the display.
Nice explanation! hope one day I can get one timeline!
Great video!
I made a recent comparison of 10 multi-delay pedals including the TimeLine and since it is one of the oldest, I arrived to a simple conclusion: all pedals want to imitate the Strymon TimeLine.
I’ve had mine for six years and love it. I find it a constant source of inspiration. I had to use the helix on a gig recently and found it to be so less inspiring.
I've had one for 8 years and love it.
The one thing I would change is the visibility of the labels. I can not read them in low light.
Well, I think it’s still worth buying in 2022 :) Very intuitive to use yet it provides huuuge amount of amazing sounds. Can’t recommend enough. That controls layout is just perfect.
Love ur channel
Much obliged for answering the exact question I had today regarding this delay AND its application for frippertronics! I’m also curious about the effects loop option in this pedal...
I've got one in 2022 :-) and I've tested almost all the others in the meanwhile ....this sounds far too better still after so many years and that's truly inspiring. So the answer is : YES.
Great sounding delay is great sounding delay. And Strymon provides that in spades! And when you add in all the delay types, midi, and the ability to create and store patches what does one need that it does not provide? So my answer is YES. Great video by the way. You have a great sounding voice and delivery!
Finally did it, saved up and decided to buy the Timeline! Even though I use Volante, I always found TL to be a very pleasant multi-delay, now I have best of both worlds!
Cheers Bill, helpful video as always!
may i ask which one you use more often or find more worth the dough?
Napalm1334 right on, I’m going to have to give the volante a shot then. Scooped a TL about a week ago, switching from a boss re20, and it’s been nonstop inspiration since. I do love the versatility in the TL tho. I use reverse and dBucket a ton with heavy modulation on the bucket which sounds amazing. Thanks for the input!
I love my Timeline. I like set the ice setting to the longest possible delay time, 100% wet, two octaves up and then use my baritone (I think one of the reasons I got my PRS SE 277 was this channel..) to get some sweet, sweet backing harmonies to play along to, and to use for loops.
Another thing I like to do is to use the lofi delay with minimal delay time and 100% wet, which turns the pedal into a lofi-overdrive pedal.
Another thing I like to do use the tremolo delay - again with the shortest possible delay time, and get turn the Timeline into a washy, ethereal trem-pedal. There is so much to do, and that's probably the reason why I've never felt like I really needed a newer pedal since I bought mine back in 2016.
Oh yeah, and the pattern delay makes for a really neat faux spring reverb!
Haha, great review. Some great harmony’s with this old unit
I finally got a Strymon pedal, a Volante. I love it for sure. Likely all I need for delay. But this is still cool! Great video.
Nothing wrong with the Volante. I love mine!
The ice and smear features are truly special, and no pedal can compare with that signature sound. Also, I love the dual and pattern delays. I’ve had a timeline, Pigtronix echolution ultra pro, and a line 6 DL4. For me the winner was the line 6 DL4. For me, it’s the only pedal I really fell in love with, until it broke. However, the timeline seemed built to last and its well built, simple to use and has so many presets. I’ve got to say though, the Ice setting is incredible.
Everyone I know or read, who had a dl4 (inc myself) has said it broke (I’m on my broken second one). Dl4 was an iconic pedal for sure but a bit mechanically fragile. Whether the new dl4 II will be more resilient who knows at this stage?
Smear! Worth buying just for that ability.
Yay 😍 Bought a timeline after watchinh this for my channel! Thanks as always Orion you're the man!. Have you ever tried using this on an acoustic guitar and do you think this would make sense at all?
The Timeline is my go to delay pedal for all the reasons you stated in your excellent vid Bill .. I'd add the routing options with stereo, MIDI and an expression pedal plus a great sounding modulation function.
All great features too. Thanks Tim!
Everything else sounds like this (and the contemporary Eventide) Definitely one of the originators and much easier to loop than others with the exp pedal!
It's a classic and so much more immediate for performance than most. Both Ocean Machine and Timeline are all the delay I need!
The only effect that's dating is the pitch feedback - called 'ICE' (that everyone copied).
One really great feature about it is that I already own it.
(And it IS a great pedal)
I wanted one of these for ages but then discovered the Empress Echosystem and haven’t looked back. The dual delay architecture and several updates of new delay types sold it to me.
I am glad you like it. But a pedal at that price with ping-pong ONLY in Digital setting and no proper MIDI, that unsold it to me.
I have the Echosystem too. It’s a great sounding pedal which is more compact, updatable and has a more intuitive interface. It’s probably the only community based delay pedal afaik. If you need different features and pros, go for the TL or something else like the Ventris.
@@JPMonstie Ventris and TL both have the stereo limitation I mentioned above. Separate mode for ping-pong hence no wide stereo tape delay. Ventris is also limited to 1.25s in tape mode. Only Volante and Specular left, but Specular delay is even shorter.
I love my timeline. It’s so good. Still. Seriously, get one.
I ve just bought mine one week ago ! 😁✌️
Sometimes I think my Timeline is too much. But then I start fiddling with the knobs and develop something new. With all the controls at your fingertips, possibilities seem endless which loops me around to thinking it's too much pedal but before I sell it I fiddle with the knobs and find something I hadn't found before and years later I'm stillcreating new possibilities.
Great video Bill. I mostly play in the the box these days. I use Soundtoys Echoboy and Audiority's Xeno verb for shimmer. I also got Raum from Native Instruments for free which does some excellent reverbs with shimmers.
Liquidsonica Verbsuite is a good ir set but less useful for ambient. Pedal wise the TC Electronic Hof 2 and the TC Flashback Delay would be what I use. I can't afford Strymom stuff 😭
You should give Surreal Machines Dub Machines a go. My favorite delay plugin. So good.
Ha, thanks bill. Just picked up one the other day. Better late to the table than never :)
Bill, no way are you "all washed up" and neither is the Timeline. I purchased one only a few months back after a long wait and so I'm still in the 'honeymoon' phase with it, perhaps. I own quite a few interesting delay pedals including a DIG and El Capistan; both of which I love. However, like the Big Sky I've owned for several years, I consider the Timeline almost a musical instrument in its own right, or perhaps a better description would be to say that it's a creative workstation because it has so much in the box. It's a real tool for experimentation and has inspired my creativity in new ways. Finally, one huge advantage is the copious patch memory. I can store my experiments as I go along, and that is super useful. Great to see that you still love creating with the Timeline after all those years.
Adam - love the "creative workstation" observation. Totally agree!!
I have too many pedals, so sometimes I forget the Timeline and, when I come back to it, I re-discover with awe its huge potential, much more huge than Bill's five reasons given here. If you are prone to creativity, this is the one to consider seriously: it's almost limitless, and full of surprises. Too bad that the looping time is quite limited, and that the looped material cannot be kept in memory - much less in several memory slots. I have encouraged them several time to update the Timeline, to keep all its original good features and make it even better. A Timeline 10th Anniversary, in short...
Love my Timeline!
I got the GFI Specular and got the Volante and got the Timeline. Timeline is still the King!
Thanks for the lovely review! I’m wondering if you could kindly post a link to the other nice delays you mentioned at the beginning of the video? thank you!
I’ve had mine since 2016 and it’s fantastic... but now that i have the FM3 I think I’m gonna just sell it. The Fractal delays are really impressive and it’s one less thing to plug in for my bedroom “studio”
I have a plethora of delay pedals but decided to purchase the Timeline today. There are things it does that no other pedal does. I would prefer they did individual pedals for each of the delay (and reverb) engines in the form factor like the El Capistan and would buy the ones I liked that way but Strymon chose not to go that direction so to get those algorithms I have to buy the big box unit. I don't mind the secondary function editing like that on the smaller units but I don't care for deep editing. Guess I'll have to get used to it ;). All that said, I'm very excited to dig into it. It should be here tomorrow.
Also want to point out that it has a looper as well, and even though the looper doesn't have easy reverse function like the DL4 you are able to use delays and record them on the looper either post or pre. Again, I only use this on my vocals and use the looper function sparingly but it works great as a long reverb or delay on vocals.
If you get the multi-switch you can run your loops in reverse.
Nice video Bill, I understand this amazing machines represent a high quality sound for guitar player. I’ve got a question, can the TimeLine make infinite repeats like the Flashback Triple Delay?
Haha I just got mine last week and reason #2 was huge for me, it's so easy to tweak all the settings. I thought 9 knobs would be confusing but it's pretty intuitive.
Good to hear that you are finding it easy to use!!
So, I agree, the Timeline is awesome. But we already know that. Since 2011 other options have become available, and the real question is whether the Timeline is still better than all of those. Is it?
I had the budget, both in terms of finances and pedalboard real estate, to get either a Timeline or a Volante. I went with the Volante. Timeline is a great pedal, but the Volante is much easier to use, and figuring I would be using the Timeline's tape mode 90% of the time, the Volante just made sense. Who knows, maybe one day I'll get a Dig and string them together.
Try to get a used "Damage Control Timeline"! It's also from the Strymon makers and just amazing. TRUE STEREO! Full Midi Control! Dual TUBES!! Got mine yesterday and for me it's one of the best delays ever made.
I have 2....the first one i bought it in 2012/13 and then sell it for a bunch of analog after ayear sing it, and in 2016/17 i bought it again new and the price jump was WOOOW!!!!! I hope i dont do mistakes again 😆😆
Timeline still stay on my board or on top of my amp until now 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
I was trying out a Meris Polymoon these days (also a cool unit, with a different approach to delay and pitch-shifiting), but then I switched back to the Timeline and felt back home. In 2021 Timeline is still a solid multi-delay!
Since years this is my main delay unit. Actually thanks to the Timeline I stopped caring and seaking for other delay pedals.
@chords of orion thanks for that frippentronix fake looper trick with the dual delay!!
I just need the Kid A tone, such as Treefingers and In Limbo
Quality will always be relevant.
Yes, it's worth every penny! At least there's no alike substitute.
It's probably still the best Delay out there. The question is , has something come out that the Time line can't do.
Best beard on UA-cam 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I sold my Strymon dly & vrb. Great sounds but pedal-menus and lack of usb edit capability I now have Source Audio dly & vrb on my board. Easier to manage my editing and midi arrangements for various sets. Strymon's need a special midi interface to locally save and share presets. But they sound fantastic. Very high price point but... hold their value.
Mine has not left my board since 2015. It's probably the best pedal I ever got.
Bill, here's you towel to dry off. Glad we could help!!
all in....in 2021!!
I love the timeline! But it is massive sized and super expensive. For what it cost, I ended up instead getting a Line 6 HX Stomp that better meets my needs with more features and the delays are quite good.
Bill, do you know of any other pedals that can do the Ice effect (not eventide pitchfactor). I know the Zoom MS-CDR70 can, but I know you didn't like that !
Just got mine almost by accident (long story, but C19 related and really only bought it to help out a friend), and so far I’ve definitely found lots of inspiration just scrolling through presets to sample sounds! Mine additionally came with a Saturn 3-button controller with which I’d really like to use to hone my looping skills-very cool.
The only drawback so far has been updating the firmware, which for me was fairly complicated (at first) due to having to use the third-party software, and the Nexie app hasn’t been as intuitive to me as the Boss DD-500 preset library manager was. I do realize that I’m very early on the learning curve though, so I’m totally optimistic and actually very excited to have this new challenge/opportunity! I’m really enjoining the sounds so far.
Thanks for the encouragement & for the great video!
Hi Bill, now I want to buy a mutidelay with presets and display. I have to choose between Boss DD500 and Strymon Timeline. You have both, so what is the best for you? My impression (seeing videos on youtube) is that the Boss has a lot of more possibilities (more parameters), but the Timeline has better sound quality, is it right?
YES.
I love my timeline !!!!!
Gotta be honest - just a couple of simple analog delays stacked In front of a lush reverb does it for me. I never personally could justify spending the money some of these super looper pedals cost.
I have 2 stereo delay pedals and one really cheap analog delay, and a Digitech rack unit with awesome multi-tap delays. The cheapo is actually my go-to pedal.
all of that costs less than $350?
I have one, and I do GENERALLY like it. There were some things that could have been done better both on the operating system and the hardware itself, but the timeline does cover a really wide range. I had to change out both the "value" and "type" encoder knobs as well as one of the tap switches. Apparently, they crap out pretty easy, and let me tell you.. they are NOT easy to repair. They require soldering on to a multi-layer PC board, and it's super scary. I have a lot of experience soldering, and it normally doesn't scare me. The problem is that you have a couple of big tabs that need to be released, and they need to get HOT. Plus, it's extreme difficult to remove all 5 contacts without destroying the existing encoder. I even melted the very edge of the LCD display, but you can't tell when the cover is on thank god. I really hope my Big Sky doesn't fail in the same way.
One last thing... strymon stuff sounds like strymon stuff. I don't know what it is, but you can just identify it when you hear it. That's both good and bad. They sound great, but for awhile, everyone was using them and everything sounded the same. That said, I kept my old Line 6 DL4 since it has its own character as well. I don't think I would buy the timeline today, but I won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon either. I find that my Kemper already does 95% of what my timeline does, so it would be hard to justify buying one now.
You’re the first person to write what I’ve always thought. The Strymon stuff does sound all the same to me.
I still Love my timeline
Yes.
Dear Bill! Does the filter knob adjust tone? Thank U for you review!
Personally I find Strymon's medium sized pedals to be way better than their larger multieffect pedals like the timeline, bigsky and mobius. They're so specialized and so on the mark with the effect that it's hard to beat. So for me the reason to get the timeline is MIDI. I have the volante and it's the best of both worlds. A specific effect type with MIDI support. If pedals like the Dig, Flint, Brigadier and others had MIDI I'd choose them over the bigsky and timeline hands down.
Doesn't suck to program the Volante without a display though?
@@poulwinther that's what I love about the Volante
It's old school what you see is what you get. All the setting are right there in front of you. The real issue is recalling them alongside all the rest of the pedalboard settings. Plus without MIDI there's only eight presets available. Whereas with MIDI there like hundreds of them to store presets in.
I'm looking forward to building a MIDI pedalboard with the Volante, the plethora and the LA Lady and probably the true spring pedal. So I can switch presets quickly. Only keeping the phase 95 .
Saurondor agree, sold my BigSky & TimeLine for a DIG, El Capistan & Flint. I don’t miss the big boxes at all. Also have a Mercury 7 for added reverb. Smaller boxes sound better to me and are more immediate. Of course all Strymon stuff is quality.
@@mydaydreamrecords I don't know the small boxes well enough to argue with you, but I just don't understand how you take advantage of all the features in a song related context without MIDI?
Poul Winther Knudsen it’s a non issue for me. I’m a producer/studio musician. When I write songs I’m not using presets. I tweak to get the desired sound for the track I’m working on. Musicians survived before MIDI. If you know your pedals well enough you’ll be able to dial them in fairly quick. The small box Strymons are not that complicated.
Great video. How do you get a 12 string guitar to sound like a 6 string?
I know it is not a really big deal, but I really like to mess with the built-in looper on this pedal. I guess loopers are pretty much ubiquitous on many pedals these days, but having it on this monster pedal is really nice. Also, could/would you post the MeltAway parameter settings you used on this demo? Thanks.
I use this on my vocals.
No one has come out with anything better.
Still worth in 2021!
Yes!!!!
Still the best out there, in my opinion.
Bill, are there ways to make your guitars layer and layer until your guitars sound like a boys and girls choir? I often hear these voices in my head, but I don't have the funds to make them a reality. Lots of times the ideas seem plausible. Other times the voices tell me to go to bed...you're drunk again! Keep up the GREAT work. You have more fans than you realize. And you are an inspiration to we "over 60" crowd.
EHX Mel9 will do choirs. Here's a piece I did a number of years ago that starts with.the clarinet voice, and then switches to a choir voice. There is a high choir that sounds like what you might be thinking of.
The Timeline has some good competition nowadays but yes, the Timline is still worth the money. It's still one of the top dogs in delay pedals, no question. At this point in the game it's going to be really hard to make a "better" pedal than what Timeline offers when comparing it to the other top delay pedals. At this point you're just after different flavors/options.
July of 2021... Yes, it's still amazing. Is 10/10 in mono and 15/10 if you run it in stereo.... Stereo or bust.
Hey Bill my volume has seemed to be gone on my strymon timeline sounder what is going on??
How can i go about getting the delay sound you demo'd first with my timeline?
Of course it's worth it.
I have mobius tl and bs
i sometimes have the Problem that they offer mehr so many Sounds and I cannot decide for one. and also ich feel like they force me to use them and I feel kind of guilty if i dont use them. ..
Is there a new update coming for Timeline?
Yes.🙂
I'm confined at home for the italian lockdown and I bought one last week.I shouldn't have done it since it's a very expensive device and these days money are such a precious resource but honestly,the Timeline is bringing light to these though times at home.I really look forwars to rejoin my band and please both me and them with my new delays!
That's awesome haha stay safe dude
Dario Crocetta Cheers 🍻
I wish you would show how to use the expression pedal
Ehehe i bought one for Christmas 🎄