when a Teacher CHALLENGES ME to DEBATE Elon Musk & X... (FULL - UNEDITED)
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I have noticed that ever since the ContraPoints video there has been an influx of bot accounts or subscribers that are only here to try and effect channel performance. Whenever a video is posted they dump subs and then re-sub on an older video. It will not stop the channel, but I appreciate the support of all the real people out there.
Well I'm a genuine new sub that found that found you through the drama on twitter, so hopefully ppl like me will put pace the bots.
Great vid s BTW. I'm learning a lot about how to have these conversations.
subbed...not a bot. Kia ora from Aotearoa New Zealand
Sorry about that. (Real subscriber here.) I sense, intuitively, that there is a loose network of Far Left types on social media who target anyone who challenges their power. Stay brave and strong and the furor will fade to normal levels. And be careful/wily on what you do and say in your work environment.
New subscriber here. Keep going.
@@GDKLockout Streisand effect FTW!
It's disheartening to hear a supposedly educated adult struggle to handle the most basic probing of his position.
I personally find it very difficult to convey an argument on the spot because I feel stressed that I need to come up with an answer straight away. This even happens when people ask me what music do I like or what type of art do I like. It doesn’t mean people are unintelligent it might mean they are thinking about these things on a deep level that takes time.
@@BlackMantisRed It also might mean they have nothing but emotions to go on.
@@BlackMantisRedit just means you have a slow brain
@@BlackMantisRed
This bozo had deep feelings against Musk. So you are saying that he just hadn't thought deeply about it already? So why so much animosity? He is just another cowardly liberal who only believes what the hive mind tells him to believe. He knows the buzz words and what to hate but not why. This is disgusting.
yeah... it's common sense that new tech is expensive. Now Cellphones are supercomputers that cost $200. 30 years back... this piece of tech would have cost at least millions of dollars
"I don't like him because of reasons."
"What are those reasons?"
"I just don't like him."
Just like a child.
His new programming does not contain the information to state the specific reason, which was the purchase of Twitter, a government tool at the time. But you cannot say that out loud, so it was not included in the ROM.
The entirety of woke ideology is made up by juvenile and preposterously delusional children
He should be honest and say he doesn't like Musk because CNN told him so.
There should be an IQ test a person has to pass before they are cleared to purchase a television but I doubt the gov would go for this since TV is their biggest weapon.
😂
What the media disseminates stays is the population's subconscious... timing is everything. Why do you think campaigns, movies, books come out at an exact point in time... about 3 months prior to... about a couple of weeks prior to... collectivists are experts at propaganda.
What Gates did to humanity is meaner than any tweet he might get in response.
Scary that they don’t know this is the reason.
There is no way that other guy supports freedom of speech.
He does, except for when he disagrees with what is being said
I commend you for not only promoting critical thinking, but also exercising patience for others that base their entire arguments on how things make them feel.
People like that teacher are why men go bald.
Nailed it! That teacher--and it's kind of sad that he is educating kids--doesn't seem to want to think critically at all. He's completely wrapped up in his emotions, and he can't get out of them.
Yes, to change someone's mind you need to be calm and disarm them with facts, address each point one by one until they realise they've got no argument left
This is a therapy session
Damn Lamborghinis are too expensive!
It’s incredible how much critical thinking is outsourced to social media.
Or MSM.
that's a great phrase, might steal it
Exactly this. Although to be more specific, their critical thinking is outsourced to 0.9 second exposure to the specific wording of leading headlines as their thumb swipes up.
Never has one single video simultaneously renewed and destroyed my faith in humanity. Thank you for this perplexing paradox.
Take hope that wisdom exists.
Be disgusted that your society doesn't value it.
Build a better world with what you have.
@@NoBody-hw6se 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@NoBody-hw6se thank you, friend.
ha ha, I know. Its terrifying.
Shocking that this is a conversation between two teachers and not between a young teen student and a teacher.
That is the wild part. It was like listening to an emotional 14 year old, not a university educated professor.
@@Charlesbabbage2209 "University Educated" means absolutely nothing close to what it used to mean 30+ years ago.
@@robmcguckin7605Apparently.
I thought it was a student at first
i would be very concerned if this "teacher" taught a child of mine.
Scary isn’t it?
I think what the guy is saying, relates to similiaries to Howard Hughes
and Steve Jobs, and that Musk seems to have a lot of connections to Russia and China.
@@gus892 i think you're mentally unstable.
As a society we fail at differentiating between knowledge and intelligence.
An encyclopedia has alot of knowledge but it can not be said that it is intelligent in any way shape or form.
Most people have knowledge to some degree.
All people are intelligent to some degree. Some people are intelligent to a high degree.
A very few people have a lot of knowledge and a high degree of intelligence.
Even fewer of those people have the drive and perseverance to combine those and actually produce something of value.
This guy hasn't thought about anything deeply ever
Perhaps crafted the perfect extension file for the MSM employment application question; "Why do you want to work for us" headed "bigotry and it's effect on society"
Almost if as he expects everyone to be perfect, per his definition, and anyone who isn't perfect, per his definition, is therefore stained with a sin of imperfection, per his definition.
Wow, that guy was really frustrating to listen to. Warren, you have the patience of a saint.
To attain Sainthood one must die... please choose better words my friend. :)
@@CrummyVCRThe OP said he had the patience of a saint, not that he _is_ a saint. Read posts more carefully.
@@ferrumignisor maybe don't take offence at what was clearly intended to be a joke.
@@ktwashere5637 The defining element of a joke is it's humor. The post was not only nonsensical but not funny.
@@ktwashere5637it didn’t come off as a joke dude. Gas Light much? I bet you’re fun to live with
“I’m just a hater, i dunno why” - the intro
He doesn't know because he's driven by ideological tribalism and not his own conclusions. It is a massive problem with ppl who used to be liberals and now much of them are far Left ideologues just parroting what their tribe tells them to.
Some of it more insane than the next. Like with gender for best eg. It's why when asked they can't explain their "strongly held" positions.
That’s how a lot of people are taught. Not to think just to judge from what others say it seems.
@@clovermark39The education system was founded and is controlled by Rockefeller. He said, " I don't want thinkers, I want workers."
@@summerman2Isn't this evidence that the educational system is the exact opposite?
ie I don't want to work for things, I expect them to be given to me for free. I think I shouldn't have to work for things?
He can't properly justify his dislike of Musk because he's been told musk is 'bad' but he doesn't really know why. It was revealing that he was coming from a position that some views should be constrained on on social media, even if they're legal. Its a position it seems nowadays that mostly leftists adopt (it was conservatives in the past) but when quizzed, he was not able to justify. It's a clear demonstration that leftist are no longer liberal
I'm not sure it would be possible for the "teacher" here to put together a coherent argument. His choice of words and emotional state is barely above that of a hormonal child. That said, I continue to be impressed by Warren's use of silence and a calm demeanor to put the people he debates on their heals.
We can all learn from Warren how to communicate better.
Liberal arts teacher perhaps? Gender studies maybe?
> I'm not sure it would be possible for the "teacher" here to put together a coherent argument.
That's pretty clear, they don't even seem to have coherent thoughts, and don't even seem to form coherent sentences.
He is not debating, he is teaching. He is forcing the student to clarify his thoughts rather than let the student get away with lazy thinking and rationalization.
@@aperson900 the title of the video says a "teacher" is challenging him. The fact that this teacher can't finish a single thought as a complete sentence should be terrifying to parents.
"We don't need it". Hello, American here who RV's part time, lives in the RV full time, so when we're in the middle of no where and there's no cell service, safe to say we need and make great use of our Starlink. This is a great example of needing to think outside the norm-our home is on wheels and travels. We don't have to be outside the US to need to have a use for it.
Exactly... My brother goes RVing... all over the country. And my father spends half of the year on an island that doesn't have electricity much less internet...
You have it in your skull?
There are literally at least 20 different companies that also does this Starlink is FAR from unique for that.
There is also Mobile internet called 4g soon to be 5g (4g is already up to 100Mbs down and up speeds and 5g is going to be able to do up to 20Gbs or 20 000Mbs)
For RV use.
@@havtor007 and those cell services will do nothing for you when you are in the middle of nowhere and there are no cell towers around for it to connect to. You really think we didn't do tons of research and testing to see what gives us the best services...? Plus when we go home and visit family for a while, we have the ability to pause our plan when we aren't actively using it meaning we don't have to keep paying for months it's not being used, something you can't do with mobile plans. Not to mention you're not limited on your data used like you are with the mobile plans. Considering we have 4 people on the Internet at all hours of every day, that mobile data is burned up in a few days.
@@TheChaosGoddess "using it meaning we don't have to keep paying for months it's not being used, something you can't do with mobile plans."
This is literally WRONG 100% wrong you can pause those plans every company that sells those plans you can pause.
You are not understanding these are Boxes that takes in mobile data they function for you as a router.
They do not have the conventional data plan of X amount of GB before throttle.
Satlite internet is OLD tech and has existed for decades a friend used in back in 2004
Starlink is doomed to fail at some point because it is far too expensive to send up new satlites with how often they fails.
We are lucky if starlink will exist in 20years at all.
SpaceX is 1 NASA budget away from not existing.
Imagine if everyone had his attitude and could talk calmly, instead of trying to cancel anyone who disagrees with you.
The world is not full of unemotional thinkers.
Some people process thoughts through emotion.
The struggle in that man's brain is palpable.
It is horrifying how he is incapable of naming his thoughts. And the fact that he is a teacher is taking it to another level.
The level of his thinking is so shallow...any abstract concepts just go right over his head.
You patience and calm manner must be praised. I would have lost it 10 min into discussion :D
These are the people shaping the minds of our children. That is the scary part.
I wouldn’t have made it past a minute. I’m not good with average, or below average IQ. It’s just too frustrating to slow down and have to explain the most basic elements of a thought.
It’s depressing that the person off camera is a teacher.
Only if you don't understand that we're all just people.
@@eazolan you don’t think that some peoples’ good or bad behaviours are more impactful than other peoples’ good or bad behaviours?
how do you know that person is a teacher? Did I miss something?
@@Didleeios88 it’s in the title
@@eazolanno, still depressing
The student from the Rowling talk seems like a genius compared to this guy
I legit thought it was the same guy
I was constantly waiting for him to get to some sort of point.
You took the words right out of my mouth and its worrying that this guy is teaching.
😂😂😂😂
The patience you show is amazing.
Its a great skill that i dont possess
THIS IS GOLD! My new favorite channel!
Yep. Mine too.
Just subscribed ... SOOOO GOOD !!! Warren's patience is SAINT LIKE !!! LOL
I agree completely!! I’m bingeing!!!
Dear god, this was painful to listen. That "teacher" is an eternal teenager
that's an insult to teenagers
Couldn't agree with you more. I love watching it as a bystander, it's fascinating.
Yeah, very whiny and couldn't argue any of his points out of a paper bag because he just dislikes Elon and cannot separate the person from their accomplishments. Tale as old as time; the censorious cancel culture however is not, and it's made it extremely difficult to have real discussions like this.
@@dkarcade_ It's twisting my gut up. I heard Warren's video on a non-political topic and I thought he was on point. Watching this I stopped, re-evaluated and went "hold on, I just saw a whole bunch of dishonest strategies here" and now I feel dirty for having forwarded his videos to other people.
> because he just dislikes Elon and cannot separate the person from their accomplishments
Well, that's dishonest as hell. He was commenting on the things in the advertising and YOU aren't separating that from Elon Musk.
Here's an exercise for you: what really were Elon Musk's achievements that didn't involve him hiring somebody? I'll give you one: he wrote "Blastaar" when he was 12.
Dig up some more, I dare you. Show me one technical thing he designed and built after the age of 12. If you're gonna count a sketch of a car door in a patent application, I invite you to look at the other names on the patent application.
@@troffle It is typical of those who know nothing about business to grossly underestimate the value of business leaders. Most assume that the huge paychecks top CEOs receive is evidence of corruption and sometimes that's the case but most of the time such assumptions are wrong. It's no accident that the biggest critics of business and free markets are always those who understand nothing about either.
I just wanted to point out tha this is NOT a debate- is is a classical Socratic exploration of a point. Warren might as well be wearing a toga. The teaching method is as valid today as it was over 2,000 years ago. There are no cheap shots. No gotchas. This is an honest probing of a subject from multiple angles. The subject is NOT being attacked. He comes to reexamine his own method of thought. Brilliant.
The next step for this student is to learn the nuances of business. I do wonder if it Warren should have intervined to point out there was gatekeeping going on, e.g. Warren bringing up the purchase of a camera - and the student going "no not like that.." reactively because they intuitively knew that that logic would counter the angle they were arguing from.
@@nock1388Intellectually and emotionally, he is neither.
You and i both know this won't be received as such. It will be viewed as a left leaning teacher being schooled. I really hope this youtube channel challenges a right leaning point, otherwise i will have to conclude this is just another channel trying to profit of politics or a politically driven channel disguised as objective teaching.
Does a Socratic exploration have Socrates defending a position that hard?
@@troffle He's not defending a position- he's asking the other party to define his through questions. That's the whole point.
It is amazing to hear this guy struggle to formulate a complete thought.
I admire that Warren has indicated in previous videos that we not be so negative or insulting to his guests because he's trying to create a safe place for people to bring their arguments and discuss freely. Thank you Warren for the channel and what you are covering here and thankyou to the guest that braved coming on here. Free speech is a lovely thing.
I would definitely praise any participant to enocourage them. Discussions like this are so rare. So many people are jaded and just throw out insults, but that's also understandable looking at the temperature of things in the last decade.
TVs were costly when they first came out. The more they sold the cheaper they got. It is basic economics.
TVs, Microwave Ovens, VCRs. The pattern has been repeated many times.
Elon's even spoken of this in regards to the Tesla, the initial sporty EVs would help pay the way for more economic mass consumer EVs. This student needs to learn about business, going through thought exercises at least, or if in real-world he'll quickly encounter the difficulties of selling products/services in a competitive-free maret system, and then understand quickly "oh how wouldn't it be nice if I could have a monopoly on selling things..." - and see if his mind is creative and dark enough to explore temptations of how you could give yourself such an unfair advantage; and hopefully without planning to eve give into that temptation or sin.
So this teacher (the one off-camera) doesn't understand critical thinking but also basic economics. These are the people teaching our kids and that's exactly why I plan on homeschooling mine lol.
@@notme1255 His questions were good. His arguments were to. The student is the one not understanding economics. He seems like a good teacher teaching critical thinking to me.
@@randywise5241 they are both teachers. The person speaking of camera is also a teacher who is challenging Warrens's(the UA-cam channel owner) points on critical thinking. I am stating the person off camera is ill fit to teach children.
How is this other guy a teacher? Scary that he can't have a basic rational discussion.
Now you know why almost half of the population is still in denial about the dangers of the "vaccines" that were launched a few years ago.
ye, i didnt realize this until i read the comments, and yes, i didnt read the title either. i thought it's a 15y kid
Wait what? You’re kidding!
You're confused from what I've seen here.
You think it's the teacher who is confused?
Oy vey. 'I hate him, so anything he does, I hate.' How puerile. This person doesn't seem to have the maturity level to be "teaching" children anything. I truly weep for the future.
I live in rural Australia and i have Starlink a fast internet no Limits either at a very reasonable price !!! 149.00 a month Aud after paying $250.00 Aud setup price. Thank you Elon Must!!!! Love your work Warren . Thank You so Much ✌✌✌ 🇦🇺
not bad if you have no signal 😂
Exactly! It's the same in the US. He simply was misleading to attempt to prove and sway his point.
Well worth it. Value for money. I think folk forget just how amazing the modern tech is. For good or bad the world has change due to people like Elon Musk.
"How much did you just spend on a camera?" Mic drop.
Free speech? You can't even post your Substack link for people to go read your stuff. Interesting work? Like making the blue checkmarks meaningless? Just two of the petty changes he made that wrecked Twitter. Oh, and giving it a stupid name that now makes it hard to use "X" as a placeholder in conversation. Real interesting.
I admire the teacher for trying but I don't think he has every had to think deeper than surface level.
these videos have proven how critical thinking is no longer a common thing to do in the US.
This other person is a teacher ? 😂
Not really. 😂
Hi Warren. I want to tell you something, but I need you to understand - I am married - Happily married - I want NO changes in my marriage. But I love you. You are teaching me something that I know I have always needed. The knowledge to debate. Thank you!!!!!!!!
lol you're hilarious
@HollyWiebe • He makes you moist, doesn't he😮
I think you're confusing 'love' with respect. 🤔
@@user-bx4ti6ig3i I think the ancient greeks had about 9 different types of love...one of those should cover it.😉
Calm down
How can have such a strong opinion and be so uninformed?!
Not a single piece of critical thinking on his part.
Great convo. This is exactly why people need to talk and have real conversations rather than just read social media and news.
The thinker we all aspire to be.
Thank you Warren.
Best teacher ever!
This is who is teaching young impressionable minds? This “teacher” is a simpleton. God help us!
This other person is a teacher? Scary. Seems like he is just indoctrinated and has zero real opinions of his own.
There are many people like you described out there.. some get stuck at a young age...
There are many people like you described out there.. some get stuck at a young age...
There are many people like you described out there.. some get stuck at a young age...
Starlink is already losing a ton of money to provide a critical service. It's way underpriced for the cost of providing it.
It's government subsidized it doesn't need a profit point
Yep. And we should axe it. But not because it’s Elon Musk. I don’t want to pay for other countries internet.
@@OwenHooper-mv4fm That's not how it works. It's not for other countries unless they pay for enough services to justify the ground stations. If there's no ground station, it doesn't work even if the sats go over your head.
@@OwenHooper-mv4fm So should other countries take money for your staelites flying over them?
how is starlink government funded??@@NoBody-hw6se
I live in rural Wyoming (redundant!). Starlink is $90 a month because there are few users in Wyoming. I have introduced it to five other families who have never had reliable internet at home and Starlink meets all of their needs for a lower price -
if baffles me how people can hold such strong opinions on a subject they have oh so obviously spend so little time thinking and have so so little actual knowledge about.
Thanks a thousand times Warren for being able to conduct this debates in such constructive and polite way. The world desperately NEEDS more people like you.
Have you asked yourself if the same might be true for yourself?
Name the first 10 public figures that come to mind that you don't like. I'm sure you don't know enough about atleast one of them to justify not liking them which holds up to this level of scrutiny.
I personally rarely express my strong opinions to strangers, let alone to the general public for this reason.
@@leefswgoh7558I always told my children... know why you believe what you believe... You are going to have to defend your belief one day.. many days.
@leefswgoh7558 I have not asked that of myself no, there is no point. Your comment can be considered a logical fallacy called a "Tu Quoque Fallacy" BTW. Nevertheless i will answer.
I have the luxury of having of a lot of free time and i devote most of it to learning things i am interested in. That is just what i enjoy doing and have been doing it for many many years.
-For me to form an opinion (let alone proselytize it) requires me to read at least two or three books about the subject matter if not more.
-More likely than not i also would have been to or watched conferences, dissertations and debates of the topmost authorities in the field, who btw often do an outstanding job in divulging their knowledge in many cases negating the need for the aforementioned book-reading.
-When i notice i have a strong opinion on anyone subject, i usually do the exercise of actively find disagreeing voices and take their particular arguments into consideration. Sometimes, albeit few, this changes things and i have to reconsider.
Even after all that of course i may be still be wrong, nobody possesses complete and perfect truth. However what i definitely am is entitled to an opinion which then can be opposed against another's for further refinement.
I realize that this is not achievable by most people. Time is limited for everyone and most people prefer to spend their free time in other ways. That is ok unless they are trying to school the rest of us.
I sadly cannot answer the 10 public figures question for three reasons:
1- Me liking or not liking people is a non sequitur.
2- If you meant people i disapprove of or disagree with for example. I still cannot since i would be writing for hours, and this is not the place to do so nor i think you would read a 50 page dissertation.
3- I don't really think the question was asked in good faith.
Dunning Kruger effect is a real thing, and is the responsibility of each one of us to escape its grasp as well as point it out in others.
Cheers.
I dislike Elon musk because he is a Proven snake oil salesman a liar and a conman all of these things are Factually proven by people who know what they are talking about.
Yet he is loved by people who has not looked at what he actually are doing at all.
His wealth is fictional not real.
There is a psychological study that shows most people think they are more intelligent than they really are. I can't remember the name of it but it usually brings about judgements about things and others that are way off base but since they are so smart, in their mind, they feel valid and vindicated to judge the way they do.
It sounds like this poor kid hit the limit of his processing power. Good learning opportunity for him, this was a big education.
The poor kid is a teacher apparently!
I think his emotional reaction to Elon is what limits his processing power.
@@JohnBreezy22I think if Musk implanted him with his brain chip, it would reject the host.
This "poor kid" is a professor!
This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Well done, Warren. I can’t wait to see more.
The teacher’s defensive “chuckle talk” is maddening..
Musk sent Starlinks to Maui in the wildfire aftermath, providing their only means of communication.
He sent Starlink to Ukraine as well at the start of the Russian/Ukraine war.
We're not all perfect you're right@@2099EK
He sent Maui the BILL for that afterwards
@@2099EK He has already asked for money from Ukraine for doing that and Threatened to shut it off if it was not paid.
@@havtor007 And rightly so. Its his "for profit" company and Joe Biden is launderi.....I mean send billions of American taxpayer money, so why shouldn't Elon be paid?
This is one of the best channels on UA-cam. I hope it will grow with time, so that Millions of students and adults get to see some critical thinking in action, not just the same narratives all the time
Where don't they have internet? Much of rural America.
My parents live in rural South Carolina. They were using DSL until recently. But they were at the very end of the DSL line so even that was crappy service. And again DSL. About as old as you get when it comes to technology for Internet. They don’t have fiber optic or any other land-based, high-speed Internet in their area. They looked into a cellular hotspot, but that wasn’t very reliable either because they are in between different cell towers but none of them within about 6 miles as the crow flies.
That’s what people don’t understand. If you live in a truly rural area, you don’t have solid options for Internet, that are fast and reliable, because people aren’t going to invest the cost of the infrastructure for an extremely low population over a vast area.
Starlink perfect for you.
For real. I think people don’t realize how common it is even in our own country to not have reliable internet access
@@sjm9876
Because these are arrogant narcissistic people that live in big cities, and think the world revolves around them. These are the kind of people that have Trump derangement syndrome because they have no idea what real life is like for a significant portion of Americans. You can look at a map of America by county for the 2016 and 2020 elections. It’s pretty amazing. In 2016 Trump won 86% of the counties. This country is overwhelmingly red. But you have too many people that are Brainwashed living in a couple of dozen big cities they can tell the rest of America how to live.
so the Elon critic is a teacher? he literally can’t think at all. scary.
His ROM was switched the moment Elon bought X. Before that time Elon was his greatest hero.
@@baswenmakers6846 right? you can clearly tell, after a few simple questions, that the teacher himself doesn’t even know why he hates Elon. only that he does.
People who hate people because of envy are simply not honest. "I hate person X because they have wealth beyond my imagination and I want what they have; but that is petty so I have to morally dress up my hate". As someone who is upper lower class/lower middle class I am tired of people who hate the wealth of others.
I watched that happen with my mums friend, first it was Trump, then it was Elon. Amazing how easy it is to turn masses of people against someone. I’ve been a fan of Elon for ages, I’ve listened to all the critics too and there’s just not enough there to outweigh his incredible achievements. People are so sad and ungrateful to those who make advancements for the good of us all.
@@jessfarr5667 Typical immature Lib.
"I'm happy I found this list." When validating your hate makes you happy, you might have an issue.
If this guy really is a teacher, he is the perfect example of why are kids are so screwed up!
How so?
Critical thinking isn’t contagious, it seems
elaborate
How do today’s kids being so screwed up have anything to do with Mr Warren?
So by your logic one guy, Warren Smith, is the reason why so many kids are screwed up today? You’re bright one aren’t you.
Jeez, he’s lucky you didn’t invoice him for the semi therapy session! That said, great conversation, and fascinating to see the tension between wanting to make sense and dumb ideas. At least he worked through the dumb ideas, with your help. Goes to show who is teaching the young and vulnerable students. Another great video!
"I think knowing things is a good thing, that's why I'm a teacher" ~ legend
These sessions are priceless!!! Thank you so much, Warren!!!
Mr Musk was unable to find somebody to lead the engineering team that was good enough.
He ended up studying rocket engines himself and leading the first team in the world to ever make a rocket come bakc and land verticaly on planet earth.
So he did actualy build a rocket 🙂
Elon wasn't the first to build a rocketship that could land back on earth. It was achieved 20 years before.
Sorry, going to piggyback on what youve started here: Concerning Starlink, sure its prohibitively expensive: Please compare the cost of satellite phones and phone service, to the cellular mobile network the majority are using. Boggles the mind a bit, what? Thats what Mr Musk has made in an internet service suite. And, yes, hes outlined its mostly going to find use and service in outlying regions difficult to sustain a landline infrastructure.
@@scatton61 reliably repeatedly successfully? Affordably?
Stop the cap.
@@scatton61 which one is that?
Some people weirdly have to undercut the intelligence of the people they hate.
By any reasonable standard elon is remarkable. By the standard people attempt to judge him we are all in need of condemnation.
He's a teacher!?? Jeez 🤔
This seems like less of a debate and more like a therapy session.
Country Australia has a high demand for this service
A teacher I thought it was a teenager , OMG is this the standard of teachers we have no wonder our kids are screwed up. We need more Elons .
“It doesn’t require googling, think about a point of your own”; Well done sir!
How can this guy not know that new tech is always too expensive at first? When I was a kid we couldn't afford a DVD player, but now you can get one for $10.
Its the early adopter tax that people dont see trickle down to cheaper tech over time.
More well off consumers fund the price decreases in tech over time making it more affordable for folks with less means.
He has drunk the communist kool-aid.
I'm writing this from Starlink. It is ABSOLUTELY NOT over-priced. :) Worth every penny, when you're remote and can only get horrible satellite for a subscription that you're locked in, over years with exponentially LESS service quality at almost double the price.
I'm not sure the guy really wanted to debate... it sounded more like a temper tantrum. My family travels extensively in an RV and we go off-road/off-grid a lot and cell phones don't work where we go. Also, this product is a luxury item, for now, for those who really need it and live where the interest is not available. I don't mean this to be rude, but it's not meant to be cheap right now. Maybe in the future it will be come much more affordable. Right now it serves a purpose for those who have no other options.
Starlink themselves say it will be cheaper, in the future when the technology progresses and with more satellite's. It's really a no-brainer. Wasn't that long ago that having a personal computer was a sign of luxury. Super computers? Used to take up entire buildings and costed millions, now almost everybody carries one in their pocket. The dudes "Argument", if you could call it one, is smooth brain tarded squared.
Leftists dont debate. They indoctrinate.
The individual in the debate has no concept of commerce and scale. I also believe he was showing traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
@@TheKeefeStone your last four words are being added to the lexicon immediately 😂
I agree I'm from Australia which is as big as the USA but only 25millionish people so vast areas have no mobile data or internet services other than satellite which this is a version of a significantly cheaper than other providers. It is extremely high band width though and even in Africa in poor communities one of these in a village sharing the internet may not allow them to all stream netflix but one of these spread amoung a number of families would not be beyond a NGO providing, remember when internet was on 5mb/s or even worse dial up? Was that useless? So Starlink is not cheap but its capable of up to 220mb/s so put up in some remote village it could provide easily 22 families with 10mb/s which would be enough to download quite a bit actually. Certainly enough to browse the web watch some youtube tutorials, download PDF's or Word Docs have full and quick access to online schooling, university. So in my country 40gb/month is $230 via starlink so 22 families so what about $10/month yep thats too much for some remote African Village but certainly not beyond a charity providing $10/month to say a remote school or village.
This is far cheaper in terms of bandwidth than a satellite phone, so significant in terms of people who sail the world etc. They would probably also want a waterproof satelite phone but would only need that for emergencies and would have a cheaper and more easy and more useful communication via a starlink.
What he's really saying; " i agree with in-group, i need to feel significant without having to be significant"
This dude just wanted to be mad but was frustrated that his anger couldn't be justified.
Is that really a teacher who doesn't have the basic common sense to be able to tell the difference between what's illegal and what's he thinks preferable? He keeps coming up with examples that are already illegal, making zero sense.
What's illegal?
In all fairness Warren isn't explicitly citing common sense or morality. He's only putting up "The Law" without explaining the morality behind it. And the teacher is, IMO, correctly arguing that if it's just 'the law' then why not laws on every topic. If I am wrong please let me know what I missed.
public nudity, for example. @@crowmack
@@Steve-sg3uz there is no consensus of "universal" morality. different religions, different ideologies consider different things moral or immoral. it you want laws on every topic, you quickly end up in a dictatorship that micromanages everyone's everyday life, leaving zero space for common sense or morality. The teacher's argument clearly agrees with this approach, since he proposes that everything should be monitored, or there should be an extra set of laws for social media, which doesn't make an practical sense. and when he's challenged on this, all he can come up with what he personally likes or dislikes, which is exatly how Twitter used to be run, catering to the ideologically driven preference of a loud minority who managed to gain some power in the online space by deeming even the most common and innocent things "offensive", and trying to push being offensive into illegality.
@@ferizsolnai "there is no consensus of "universal" morality. different religions, different ideologies consider different things moral or immoral."
Correct. Without a God of morality it's all just subjective feelings and opinions on right and wrong. Warren failed to explain that in the US we're fundamentally Christian based and that's the moral system we use most of the time. The teacher was probably raised with a secular worldview and is struggling with why his feelings are less valuable than Christian morals. He could be one of those types that has a problem with religious hierarchies.
My big things was Warren just said "the law". Which can sound like "the cat" to so many people today. Which is understandable since our schools are very liberal and turn out people opposed to all sorts of hierarchies.
It seems to me that some people _drive_ their brains, while others are mere passengers. This conversation exemplifies this dichotomy very well. It is unfortunate that the unseen participant, the passive thinker in this exchange, is a teacher. I suspect that he would not like me for characterizing him this way, and would thus support banning me from saying it.
It’s unfortunate that the teacher has the mentality of a teenager and wasn’t able to articulate anything meaningful with his “debate”.
The guy on camera is the teacher
@@GGTutor1the person he is talking with is also a teacher.....
@@karenphillips2092 Yeah, in name.
Love your content. There is one thing that all these conversations have in common these people are all emotionally driven in there arguments.
When you can't articulate yourself, all you have is your emotions. Kinda like why three year olds with limited vocabularies resort to throwing fits.
Sad that this person you are in discussion with is considered a high enough intellect to teach children…
Love your work, just found your channel last week, subbed.
Agree with you 100%. It's a bit scary that this person is an educator of children.
You are looking at the teacher…
Yeah ... I am stuck between furious and frightened.
@averageatom They're both teachers.
As the title says, "When a teacher challenges ME to debate Elon Musk & X (FULL - UNEDITED) M
Person off camera = A teacher.
Warren, on camera = A teacher. The ME in the title.
Hope it helps!🙂
@@averageatomIf you can't even understand the title, this video isn't for you.
Thank you for this. I'm enjoying your content and it helps to have the entire conversation available.
This is someone’s head full of Clickbait think he knows something by reading headlines
I don't understand young people today...
I'm 52. When I was in high school we were wild, didn't listen to anyone, we LOVED people who are edgy, rebellious, who went against the authority, insulted powerful people, mocked them, etc. And I lived in a communist country where those things had real consequences. Kids today are like sheep. Where's the rebellious spirit!? Where's your energy? Why do you listen to those pathetic "authorities" who tell you what to think? In my time, if someone told us what to think or do - we would do exactly the opposite. Just because - you don't tell me what to do.
Wake up kids.
P.S.
Just realized that the person you're talking to is a "teacher"... Dear Lord... Sounds like a confused 15 year old. :(
I'm in my 50s too.
I left Twitter and Facebook 6 yrs ago. I found as an adult it stunted my thinking and gave me nothing substantial.
I think that is why young people are like sheep.... they are trained to follow an algorithm.
@@cathymadsen2930 the same thing heavily applies to youtube. Almost everyone is a sheep, we just follow different "herders".
I like to use the goth kids example, they all feel like they're so different, yet they're all dressed almost identically.
he said vaguely without any elaboration or explination, he then scurried into the night feeling accomplished. Feeling as if people would read his comment and finally understand why people dont like rebellious characters now... "of course!" they will shout, "ITS THE CAMERAS! it all makes sense!"
Ahhh gen X- love to hear from you!!!! You are my fave humans
@@leefswgoh7558Cartman
Thank you for posting the full and unedited version.
The amount of people who hate others for no reason is shocking to me. I only hate people who have provenly done actual evil crap. "I'm glad I found this list". Why? So you can feed the unfounded hatred you had for a dude? And why is someone being crazy now a reason to hate them? I would honestly love to see what this friend says on twitter.
Even then, unless they've personally done something to me, I don't spend all my time obsessing over how much I hate them, I mean I have my moments for sure, but not to the same degree I see some people..
You're so close - why not just hate people who have done *you* harm.
I don't hate anyone who has never done a bad thing to me.
Why should I hate someone because they're evil if their evil never hurt me?
If someone does something morally abhorrent, should the whole world hate them?
@snapplegu6100 Obsessing, no. Agreed. However I do hate people who have done horrific things. Animal abusers, child abusers, rapists, etc. I have a high bar for what I hate and what I don't. Someone saying something stupid or mocking someone else is not hateworthy. Someone who hurt a kid is.
@@1faithchick7 I didn't say I don't, I just mean spending time obsessing, for me I have a pretty black and white view when it comes to those things, I'm pretty pro the china van kind of solutions. But do I spend all my time like for instance, the unstable types obsessing over JKR? No, not like that anyway. What more can I really say except certain people have to go. Any more time spent on the topic is a loss on my part, and a gain for cretins. Unless you're trying to uncover corruption and subversion by an individual.
@@snapplegu6100I agree. I am always so confused about people who engage with trolls, or who spend all day tracking down people they hate just to hate watch. It's stalker like behavior. I've never understood why people would track others down on social media just to crap on them, or subscribe so they can crap on the new vids. It's bazar.
The guy on the screen is talking to a teacher?!!! I thought it was a middle school kid. Holy cow!!
Well done W. Thank you for educating this….. “teacher”? 😂😂😂
What shallow thinking... and he is a teacher,(out of frame)??? good grief.
Which one do you think is the teacher?
Oh I see, the title. I assumed that guy out of frame was a student.
@@user-fs5lb3ce3b No one is assuming that the guy in the frame is the student. GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
Unfortunately, the " teacher" out of frame is the norm in higher education today. Makes vague claims, shifts goalposts when asked specifically to clarify vague claims, etc.
@@californiadreamer2580 yeah it was awful; completely devoid of any critical thinking ability at all.
The fact this person uses terms like "we arent allowed to use that term".... who is telling him whats allowed? As far as I know we are free to speak how we feel.
Exactly. He was programmed to believe this. It’s not even his opinion. The TV told him this was unacceptable in a way that made him think he was the one who thought it was unacceptable.
"Inarticulate school teacher challenges me to debate Elon Musk..."
You have a lot of patience. I look forward to seeing you debate people with a few more wrinkles in their brain.
“I can’t afford it.”
“So you’re mad you can’t afford it?”
“No. I don’t want it!”
Ooooook.
Also Elon is an engineer. He doesn’t just make websites 🤦🏻♀️
Putting your name on something != engineering something.
Apparently he doesn't code well. They had to re write his work.
@@agingerbeard Elon has a degree in physics and he spends 80% of his time at SpaceX directly working on the engineering and design of his cars, satellites, rockets, etc.
@@uteruspower1862 name a single thing he has engineered himself. He might be great at wrangling other intelligent people to work for him, but again, that is not the same as him engineering something. The guy is a fraud.
"We're going to have full self-driving by next year! It's just that easy!" - Musk, every year, 2016-present day. Meanwhile, it can barely cross a carport and is illegal in several countries.
@@agingerbeardhe designed the falcon 1 and 9 and starship. He is the chief engineer
This teacher stepped outside of his echo chamber of friends and is really struggling with differing opinions and the Windows shutdown sound played. Fade to black.
Having this unedited was a great move.
The phrase “intellectually challenged” comes to mind. In more than one sense.
Hey wait… this isn’t a student - it’s a teacher!!! How did he get the job of teacher OMG Warren ❤
This is painful. Im amazed so many people love it. It depresses me
I'm sure we all had varying measures of both emotions.
Define “ it”.
@@wanda520 the genderless singular pronoun?
This guy is a teacher?! Dear god! What does he teach? It can't be economics! Warren you are more patient than I could ever be. Kudos sir. Subscribed!
This is a teacher who seems to have no understanding of free speech whatsoever?
Free speech is fine pretending like you have a product to sell it to someone for their money is called a Scam and is illegal that is what Elon Musk is doing and we have a very good example of someone who is in prison right now for the same thing just at a smaller scale with Elisabeth Holms and Theranos
Interesting that this off-frame " teacher" says "who needs Starlink?" My favorite internet college professor travels to remote areas of the USA to teach his class "field trips", and uses Starlink to do it because nothing else is as reliable! I remember when car phones first became available, no average person could afford those either.
Because what he really means is "I hate Elon Musk" and all my arguments will be framed around this supposition.
So there are literally other Satelite internet providers at least 20 of them and they have existed for literally over 15years and that is just from what i know.
So what does he mean with reliable?
Also can he use Mobile Data like 4g there? because if so that is as fast and less latency.
@@alihenderson5910 Why do you Love Elon Musk?
@@havtor007 I don't, but I'm sensing some jealousy.
@@alihenderson5910 Why would i be jealous of someone who is a proven Scam artist?
Just like Elisabeth Holms and Theranos?
But you must love Elon Musk if you are going to ignore actual factual information and trust the proven scammer.
Recommended reading book list, please. Adam Smith, who else? Philosophy, ethics, logic, nature of man, etc.
"I completely believe in freedom of speech, but..." I hate that phrase so much. It's the same as "I'm not racist, but..."
Listen to yourself because I, and many others, are definitely listening to you
I'm sure the guy off-screen still has his job, despite his limited competence. Meanwhile, this gem of a critical thinking teacher is fired for helping students become better thinkers.
_'JuST giVe iT To tHEm.'_
Smaller towns and rural roads in Texas "have Internet", but not all of them do.
Anyone living on land outside the city, farms, ranches, camping, RV'ers, That is one audience for Starlink. Also he delivered it to Ukraine, and Hawaii after the fires.
Context matters. Musk tweeted that (forgot he's still alive) to Bernie Sanders in response to Bernie's tweet stating "We must demand that the extremely wealthy pay their fair share. Period."
Bernie's statement could be taken as an attack on or insult to Musk (implying that he - as an extremely wealthy person - is NOT paying his fair share.)
Very interesting! But it would be a lot easier to listen to if you could filter the background hiss from the audio.
You need to keep teaching the teachers. Thank you for giving me hope in the younger generations.
You remind me of my favorite teachers, BJ Berghorst & Mr Harris. They were both so riveting the time flew by and I just couldn't wait for the next class.
I can just imagine you have all the young ladies doing the Prof. Jones "love you" eyes. 😂 Be safe out there!! 😜
There is no one who should police lawful speech. Even if the speech “causes” offence.
It was useful to see someone bringing totally unrelated analogies to so many clear-cut points. Though quite frustrating, it’s great to learn from Warren how to correct such flaws in thinking processes.
Starlink provides broadband speeds to areas that don't have broadband access, so it offers much better internet access to rural areas even in wealthy countries like the US. Also, even in 3rd world poor communities, a single Starlink connection can be shared via wifi with many people thus reducing its cost per user. It can also support an internet cafe, which is a common 3rd world internet sharing practice. It also allows governments or NGOs to cheaply subsidize internet access for the first time in 3rd world rural areas.