Thank you for leaving this video crap-music free. The only sounds we want to hear are the gigantic sounds of power and majesty of those locomotives and their whistles.
I appreciate the feedback, and comment! My exact thoughts on this too; people want to hear and see the sounds of the TRAIN, not music that masks the sounds of such an incredibly powerful machine.
triple header actually......with a gorgeous EMD SD 70 ACe in there too.. my favourite locomotive after the SD40-2...great video and fantastic to watch ..
Thanks for the comment! Triple header is a way to word, and state it. It sure was amazing to see something like this in person. I can't wait to go and shoot it again.
@@SD457500 Finally you get better shot, and you get the historical stuff on the railroad back again... Thank you very much...😄😄😄 You getting much better than I thought...
Out of curiosity, why the diesel? I understand the company's desire to prevent a train stranding due to "unreliable" steam power, but this wasn't a 150-car coal unit train- it was a short 10-12-coach (plus a power car) passenger train with redundant steam power- the 4014 and the 844- either one of which is more than able to pull this piddlin' train up pretty much any grade along this route. I loved the video, thank you so much for sharing it, but I felt like I was watching an old man taking a supervised walk around the nursing home grounds with an orderly on each side trying to unnecessarily hold him up by his elbows as he screamed for them to let the %^*&% go of him. Steam power was all the railroads had for well over a century- surely, two fully-functioning steam engines could be trusted with a short railfan train without the diesel handholding... I guess I should just shut up and be grateful the UP didn't scrap her when they took her out of service, and that they recently restored her to her current pristine condition. ♥ So thanks, UP. Maybe one day you can let her fly solo again.
Ok, great. They're more than capable of moving the train. BOOM! The intermodal train in front of them has hit a semi and delayed the train's progress for several hours. You have a finite supply of fuel and water aboard the steam locomotives. You're in BFE Wyoming and there is no practical place to replenish those resources, even if you can scrounge them up with only a couple hour's notice. After several hours stranded you no longer have enough fuel or water to complete today's leg of the trip. That's why they have a diesel locomotive.
@@SD457500 To answer your question, No. 4014 can produce 6,290 horsepower and 135,375 pounds of tractive effort. No. 844 can produce 4,500 horsepower and 63,800 pounds of tractive effort. This adds up to 10,790 horsepower and 199,175 pounds of tractive effort. Information from Wikipedia and a calculator.
@@Xoron thanks. Just referring to the tractive effort. I wonder what the Big Boy's is with the oil conversion. With coal they were 135,000 and some change.
I don’t think the tractive effort will change because of a fuel conversion. If you change the cylinder sizes, driver diameter, the cutoff, and other components, then the tractive effort will probably change.
Thanks for the comments! The diesel is there for a few reasons. Mainly as a fail-safe in case either engine fails, provide extra braking, or help the engines out if need be.
Thanks for the comment! While the steam engines are more then capable of handling the train, the diesel is there as a fail-safe and backup just in case anything goes wrong. They also help aid in dynamic breaking.
@@C-J-Outdoors The black tender behind the cab is where the fuel oil is. The yellow car behind that is a water car which was converted from a GTE turbine fuel tender.
Thanks for the comment! No dark smoke? If a steam engine is being fired properly, they actually don't make a lot of smoke. Big Boy was also slowing down in that scene, so it wasn't working much at that point.
Thank you for leaving this video crap-music free. The only sounds we want to hear are the gigantic sounds of power and majesty of those locomotives and their whistles.
I appreciate the feedback, and comment! My exact thoughts on this too; people want to hear and see the sounds of the TRAIN, not music that masks the sounds of such an incredibly powerful machine.
@@SD457500 yup :) nothing beats the smells and sounds of steam locomotives
Nicest camera work I've seen to date. Thank you for being the eyes and ears for those of us unable to attend.
I appreciate your kind words, and I'm glad that you enjoyed it. :D
Now THAT'S how you get good video of this guy!
Thanks for the comment! I wanted to make sure to get a lot of unique shots along the way.
triple header actually......with a gorgeous EMD SD 70 ACe in there too.. my favourite locomotive after the SD40-2...great video and fantastic to watch ..
Thanks for the comment! Triple header is a way to word, and state it. It sure was amazing to see something like this in person. I can't wait to go and shoot it again.
So many runbys with no people in the way :) Great job!
Thanks for the comment! Exactly! I wanted to make sure I wasn't photo bombed, or have someone jump out last minute.
i had the idea that smoke would be everywhere with this double header. seeing the videos i was wrong. good shots.
Thanks for the comment! My thoughts too, but it was essentially the 4014s break in run.
Thank you great shots
Thanks for the comment! It was well worth the drive out there, and work to get the shots.
pure grunt great viv thank you
Thanks for the comment! Big Boy sure is a sight, and I'll be getting more video soon when it comes in MN next week.
The whistle sequence at 2:22 reminds me of the Cumbres and Toltec.
Good point on that one with the various whistles being used! Thanks for watching.
Great video and catch!
Thanks for the comment, I'm glad that you enjoyed it! :D
Oh yesss...😍😍😍 Big Boy is back...
Thanks for the comment! Big Boy is back is right! :D
@@SD457500 Finally you get better shot, and you get the historical stuff on the railroad back again... Thank you very much...😄😄😄 You getting much better than I thought...
Beautiful video!
Thanks for the comment! It was an amazing sight...
i love steam trains
I love steam train
Out of curiosity, why the diesel? I understand the company's desire to prevent a train stranding due to "unreliable" steam power, but this wasn't a 150-car coal unit train- it was a short 10-12-coach (plus a power car) passenger train with redundant steam power- the 4014 and the 844- either one of which is more than able to pull this piddlin' train up pretty much any grade along this route.
I loved the video, thank you so much for sharing it, but I felt like I was watching an old man taking a supervised walk around the nursing home grounds with an orderly on each side trying to unnecessarily hold him up by his elbows as he screamed for them to let the %^*&% go of him. Steam power was all the railroads had for well over a century- surely, two fully-functioning steam engines could be trusted with a short railfan train without the diesel handholding...
I guess I should just shut up and be grateful the UP didn't scrap her when they took her out of service, and that they recently restored her to her current pristine condition. ♥ So thanks, UP. Maybe one day you can let her fly solo again.
Thank you for the comment! The diesel is there as a backup in case anything goes wrong with Big Boy. It can also provide dynamic braking if needed.
Ok, great. They're more than capable of moving the train. BOOM! The intermodal train in front of them has hit a semi and delayed the train's progress for several hours. You have a finite supply of fuel and water aboard the steam locomotives. You're in BFE Wyoming and there is no practical place to replenish those resources, even if you can scrounge them up with only a couple hour's notice. After several hours stranded you no longer have enough fuel or water to complete today's leg of the trip.
That's why they have a diesel locomotive.
good vid
Just needs Arlo or Willie singing "City of New Orleans" in the background.
Thanks for the comment! Big Boy's and 844's sounds were music to my ears.
Like, or not.
I want to know how much power and tractive effort the 4014 and 844 put out together, with a real dyno car, not simply adding their "on-paper power"
Thanks for the comment! I would like to know that as well...
@@SD457500 To answer your question, No. 4014 can produce 6,290 horsepower and 135,375 pounds of tractive effort. No. 844 can produce 4,500 horsepower and 63,800 pounds of tractive effort. This adds up to 10,790 horsepower and 199,175 pounds of tractive effort. Information from Wikipedia and a calculator.
Great Video, Listen to the Rails Creek.
I appreciate the comment! It was an amazing sight in person...
Thanks. Not sure they needed the SD. :)
I'm pretty sure it's needed for electricity in the waggons.
@@Xoron thanks. Just referring to the tractive effort. I wonder what the Big Boy's is with the oil conversion. With coal they were 135,000 and some change.
I don’t think the tractive effort will change because of a fuel conversion. If you change the cylinder sizes, driver diameter, the cutoff, and other components, then the tractive effort will probably change.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 thanks. I suspect horsepower could change if there is less steam.
Thanks for the comments! The diesel is there for a few reasons. Mainly as a fail-safe in case either engine fails, provide extra braking, or help the engines out if need be.
Okay, this has been bothering me for the longest time. Why do they need a diesel in the train? Can't the steamers manage alone?
Thanks for the comment! While the steam engines are more then capable of handling the train, the diesel is there as a fail-safe and backup just in case anything goes wrong. They also help aid in dynamic breaking.
Okay, thanks. I've thought that No. 4014 was handicapped for a while. Thanks for clearing that up.
This was essentially the 4014s break in run, so they wanted to be safe with it out on the mainline.
@@SD457500 Don't you see it as disgracing the steam engines by using a diesel to help them?
@@AutismTakesOn Not at all.
What is in the second tender, oil or water or both?
@MrDanielII where do they get the fuel if both are water cars?
@@C-J-Outdoors The black tender behind the cab is where the fuel oil is. The yellow car behind that is a water car which was converted from a GTE turbine fuel tender.
Thank you all for the comments! Yes, those are auxiliary water tenders.
After seeing these in person from about 3 feet away, the black tender is for water, and the yellow tender is for the fuel oil.
@@Cragified The yellow auxiliary tenders were behind 800 class 4-8-4's before the gas turbines were ever even on the drawing board.
7 people dislike this? really?
Just a wee bit overpowered
Thanks for the comment! Just a little bit....lolol
2:23
That is 4014's original whistle? In other words, is that the same whistle she used before retirement in the 1950s?
Thanks for the comment! That I don't know for sure, however, I believe it is...
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I'm pretty sure it is. There is a video showing it blowing in the chyanne yard and they say it is the first time in 60 yrs.
I wondered! There is no dark smoke from the 2 big tubes on 2.53!
Thanks for the comment! No dark smoke? If a steam engine is being fired properly, they actually don't make a lot of smoke. Big Boy was also slowing down in that scene, so it wasn't working much at that point.
@@SD457500 OK!) I thinked so . But really it amaizing to watch so old machinery in perfect shape.)