i hate seeing soo locos die. when i was a kid my dad pulled up alongside a parked soo loco in ladysmith wis. went and talked to the engineer , came back and got me. the engineer and conductor let us climb up into the cab and check it out. it was pretty epic for a pre teen kid. obviously i have a soft spot for soo.
Bittersweet video. I do remember dumping ballast and other such MoW assignments with these units when they were in our area of Milwaukee and Sturtevant Wisconsin. Also remember them working on locals in the area. Hate to see these units go as more and more of the GE garbage shows up. Have a great rest of your Monday.(Steve)
Bittersweet is spot on, and for me, especially with the Soo units. I get that the power is literally worn out, but it would have been cool if the 2010, 4601, or 4603 were saved. Thanks of the kind comment, memory, and watching.
Shame that CPKC could/would not donate these locos, due to the historic value of them. I would think that a historical society or museum somewhere would have been interested. That very last bandit really, really hurts.
They are getting costlier to maintain. Low HP compared to the new ones. Won't pass emissions and some states won't allow them to operated within the state. This is the fate of 99.9% of locomotives. I'm not sentimental about it, I work on locomotives 5 days a week.
Very good Video & good info on the Locomotives going up for scrap. It would have been nice if You could have got the inside of the Cab & the control stands of each of the GP 40s & the SD 40-2 before they started to cut them up.. Some of these Engines I have seeing & got Photos of in the 1990s. So sad to see them go. It's very sad to see them get cut up.
Great video, yet sad to see all those units even the original CP units being put to death. The most sad is 2010, I'm kind of surprised no workers tried to stop you, very nicely done.
Thank you for the kind words, and glad you enjoyed it! All video was shot in full legal compliance with the law, and no CP people even swung by. All drone footage was done in accordance with the FAA, LAANC, DJI GeoZone, and other requirements to attain airspace for it.
Trying to, but with the roads closed due to floods, and VLOS drone rules/airspace permissions, I don't think I'll make it there in time. As of writing this comment, only the 2010, 4601, and 4602, still exist. Their time is VERY short.
More of fuel efficiency...the new emissions laws are going into effect....unlike Union Pacific were they rebuild SD40-2 to battery electric or hybrids...a lot of SD40-2s of CP went to ALL of Brasil....then again parts are getting hard to get for these old hunks of junk....
Many countries overseas, Australia included, still operate very old EMD locomotives, those scrapped loco's would be an excellent source for spare parts to be exported. Excellent video and you done your research well!
Cool video. I've only seen one locomotive get scrapped. It was cool to see. The crew scrapping it were friendly. I only regret not asking for the bell or horn as a souvenir.
That's a good way to look at it. As much as it might be a drag to see these meet their end, they had a LONG service life. Thanks for the comment, and watching!
Most of these locomotives are so old that it was worth more as salvageable parts and scrap metal than to rebuild and return them to service, especially now with EPA Tier level emission requirements for older locomotives. That's why many of the wide-cab locomotives built in the 1980's to early 1990's from EMD and GE are now sitting in dead yards instead of mainline service, all replaced by Progress Rail/EMD SD70ACe/SD70ACe-T4 and GE/Wabtec ES44DC/ES44AC locomotives.
@detroitdieselseries5071 Because they sold off too many locos, and now realize that they made a mistake. These big RR's all have one thing in common--- BIGGER does not mean SMARTER.
I hate the EPA when it comes to these tier rules. Just like they’re trying to implement no lead gas for private planes. The EPA needs to get cut back on their rulings and the power that they have.
Plenty of souvenirs on those engines for railfans. Too bad they won't get pulled off and enjoyed by someone. Number boards; horns; control stands; ditch lights; headlights w/Number board panels; roof flashing beacon; class lights; door panels with CP RAIL & Flags/SOO on them, all would make good additions to someone's model train room. So sad.
It's very sad to see any locomotives get cropped up they do very hard work for the owner and made lots of money for the company but maybe they will be brand new locomotives one day are maybe they will be in are new cars.
Should be a crime to desrtoy engines like this that could so easily be rebuilt. 2010 especially hurts but there is so much history and so much potential being tossed.
Freaking exactly what I’m saying I hate this new new railroad and it freaking sucks cause I feel like the Canadians are freaking taken over a railroad nothing the more that pisses me off is that🤬
You can not save every engine just because it’s old and has a good history. With the latest emission controls and much better fuel consumption most newer engines even though more expensive to buy are cheeper to run than to rebuild old units. Just look at the latest rules California wants to implement. If that is done and other states follow we will see even some newer model engines hit the scrap yard. Don’t blame the new Canadian Pacific Kanas City railroad for ignoring preservation. They just rebuilt and ran one of their old steam engines as well as some older diesel covered wagons to celebrate the new merger.
@@johnchambers8528 the regulations are b.s. And rebuilds are very much a thing. We never need to build another GEVO if we just keep improving existing units. Can't tell me a few particles of emissions negate the energy/pollution costs of scrapping and recycling all that material. It isn't possible.
I love trains as much as the next railfan, but I don't get all the hand wringing and somber mourning here. These are just common locomotives. Not super rare historical heritage items. Rail companies can't waste money on machines that don't make money for them. It's not a tragedy. It's simple corporate capitalism. The weak and feeble get scrapped, and the CEO's get richer. that's how business works.
These WILL become rare too. 2010 already a rare breed. Apathy like yours and the shareholders will leave us with nothing to show for these formerly "common" locos too.
What bother's me the most is that why can't railroads just restore, surely they can be reused again as backup power or something that isn't the cutter's torch. Like FUKING USE THEM INSTEAD OF SCRAPPING IF THEY STILL RUN!
The GP38’s are what I believe underrated when it comes to Preservation. We’ve become so familiar with their look and corporate colors that we don’t take notice until they’re all gone. Unless they have a rich history or age behind them.
Spot on Coloribus. Same issue with the classic passenger E7's. Once so common that they were not a big deal. Now only 1 is left in existence, preserved in a museum.
I wonder what happened with the number boards or builders plates or headlights? I'd have brought some cash with me and asked the contractors really nicely.
I painted a lot of those black bandits, I believe around 1987. We would paint two of them a night. They wanted them done in a hurry because of the merger going. Very little prep work and poor quality. The paint would start to come off when they went through the wash rack.😢
Oh, not my 2003. Glad i caught her with that slightly out of tune lonely sounding horn at Rondout in the mid 1990's. I guess every time i play my railroad "music" in the car that will be my forlorn tribute to her. From the first time i saw you on that Rondout video to the last time we met in person that summer night. Farewell.
Hopefully someone comes in last minute to save 2010. It's the last of it's kind, and gave 50 years of service on 3 different owners. She deserves more, i.e. Preservation in a museum.
Don’t let Peter Jugo see this video. He’ll have a heart attack and remind us for the 100th time that he wishes CP would do more SD40s. Real one’s will understand this comment ☝️
It is very pathetic to see the demise of this legendary EMD locomotives. Anyway, Do you have any information about the whereabouts of CP 6038? Does it still exists or scrapped? Please reply, 6038 is my most favourite SD40-2 from CP's roster.
blame the politicians, if the workforce would do their jobs instead lying to their leadership maybe the rebuilding they "underwent" would keep them in service.
@@SynchroScore I don't think the economy has anything to do with creating and buying new engines as it may seems. Feight is critical to the infrastructure of the country so it has priority costs from the government and investors.
Nah, I was just observing from a distance, and taking it all in as they went about their normal business. I HOPE something is able to save parts, and items, off of them.
Sad to see some engines that have been a part of railroad history scrapped and not be put in a museum. But they did serve their time throughout their life and they deserve to rest forever.
I hope I hear the railroad crying and wishing they had never scrapped those locos, It seems to me that the railroads are rushing to get rid of anything that don’t have epa emissions on it, fuck you epa!
The part I don't get, is that these locos meet emissions for the year they were built. So-- how can EPA, or anybody say that a 35 year old loco has to ALL OF A SUDDEN ,meet the present day emission rules????
Trains are the most environmentally friendly mode of transportation even with older locomotives yet the EPA screws with the railroads non stop. But that’s okay they have screwing with the auto industry too which is why you have these small turbo engines replacing naturally aspirated V6’s and V8’s. The federal government needs to be abolished. Waste of tax dollars pieces of crap!
Its such a shame to see that old Milwaukee Road unit being cut up, I wish it was a candidate for preservation
same here !
I'll second this, but I bet that unit had MANY issues. Maybe one of the MP15ACs owned by GMTX will be saved in the future.
@@SD457500 I hope that's the case.
Me too.
i hate seeing soo locos die. when i was a kid my dad pulled up alongside a parked soo loco in ladysmith wis. went and talked to the engineer , came back and got me. the engineer and conductor let us climb up into the cab and check it out. it was pretty epic for a pre teen kid. obviously i have a soft spot for soo.
Soo was a good RR! CPKC-----????????
Bittersweet video. I do remember dumping ballast and other such MoW assignments with these units when they were in our area of Milwaukee and Sturtevant Wisconsin. Also remember them working on locals in the area. Hate to see these units go as more and more of the GE garbage shows up. Have a great rest of your Monday.(Steve)
Bittersweet is spot on, and for me, especially with the Soo units. I get that the power is literally worn out, but it would have been cool if the 2010, 4601, or 4603 were saved. Thanks of the kind comment, memory, and watching.
@@SD457500 your very welcome and agree with you a hundred percent.
Very sad! Thanks so much Douglas for filming this and sharing it.
Shame that CPKC could/would not donate these locos, due to the historic value of them. I would think that a historical society or museum somewhere would have been interested. That very last bandit really, really hurts.
Glad you enjoyed it, even if it is on the somber side of things.
Sad looking at theses workhorses going under the cutters torch but under can’t keep everything alive 😢 Great video and information 👍🏻🏴
They are getting costlier to maintain. Low HP compared to the new ones. Won't pass emissions and some states won't allow them to operated within the state. This is the fate of 99.9% of locomotives. I'm not sentimental about it, I work on locomotives 5 days a week.
Try telling that to the former Eastern Bloc countries who are still using Soviet era locomotives then
@@detroitdieselseries5071 Not talking about Soviet stuff, it is about western hemisphere locomotives.
@@detroitdieselseries5071 but the pollution from Eastern Europe can make its way everywhere . There's not a curtain to block airflow around the world.
Really hope those horns were saved!
A number of the horns were, and are in very good hands.
Very good Video & good info on the Locomotives going up for scrap. It would have been nice if You could have got the inside of the Cab & the control stands of each of the GP 40s & the SD 40-2 before they started to cut them up.. Some of these Engines I have seeing & got Photos of in the 1990s. So sad to see them go. It's very sad to see them get cut up.
Great video, yet sad to see all those units even the original CP units being put to death. The most sad is 2010, I'm kind of surprised no workers tried to stop you, very nicely done.
Thank you for the kind words, and glad you enjoyed it! All video was shot in full legal compliance with the law, and no CP people even swung by. All drone footage was done in accordance with the FAA, LAANC, DJI GeoZone, and other requirements to attain airspace for it.
Please come back to see 2010 in its last minutes as it’s cut up
Trying to, but with the roads closed due to floods, and VLOS drone rules/airspace permissions, I don't think I'll make it there in time. As of writing this comment, only the 2010, 4601, and 4602, still exist. Their time is VERY short.
@@SD457500 yeah still try if possible if not it’s ok I’m glad I got it when I did
@@JustATeenageRailfanI would think that’s hard to watch
NOOOO NOT THE MILWAUKEE ROAD
Another reason mergers suck.
Thank you at least I’m not the only one like they could not put 2010 in a museum
@@crystalboutte9880 2010 suffered a major engine failure and was kept for parts
More of fuel efficiency...the new emissions laws are going into effect....unlike Union Pacific were they rebuild SD40-2 to battery electric or hybrids...a lot of SD40-2s of CP went to ALL of Brasil....then again parts are getting hard to get for these old hunks of junk....
That’s why it kept its bandit scheme
@@ShawnCalay more like the history
Many countries overseas, Australia included, still operate very old EMD locomotives, those scrapped loco's would be an excellent source for spare parts to be exported. Excellent video and you done your research well!
Within relatively recent history I saw all these delivered new when they were state of the art technology.
So sad, I remember seeing these locomotives working that area while visiting some years ago. Have a good day y'all!
Cool video. I've only seen one locomotive get scrapped. It was cool to see. The crew scrapping it were friendly. I only regret not asking for the bell or horn as a souvenir.
Someone probably grabbed those.
Sooo much history in these incredible engines, just imagine what they've seen, and now they lay in a yard, waiting for scrap
They could've had potential to be spared, especially SOO 2010
Hopefully their power sections live on in other locomotives.
R.I.P. 😭
Goodbye 2010 :(
2010 can't go!
Real
@@CNW87272010 Club should be formed!
The first big wave of MILW GP40s to get scrapped was in the mid 1980's, so these outlived their siblings by 200%.
That's a good way to look at it. As much as it might be a drag to see these meet their end, they had a LONG service life. Thanks for the comment, and watching!
@@SD457500 I wonder if these units were on paper replaced with federally funded Tier 4 units and had to be scrapped.
What was the issue with the Ex Lehigh Valley unit? I probably saw it when it worked for the Valley.
SOO 4448 better not end up in there, last i remember it was up in Bensenville, its a childhood loco of mine
Soo 4448 is fine for the time being; it just got some TLC over at STP Yard. It should be around for quite a while yet!
@@SD457500 Yay! I'm glad that it will live on for a long time, I remember seeing it down in Nahant and then disappear one day
Does anyone know the history on EX Amtrak F40PHR unit 275??? Because I really want to do a video talking about its history.
Most of these locomotives are so old that it was worth more as salvageable parts and scrap metal than to rebuild and return them to service, especially now with EPA Tier level emission requirements for older locomotives. That's why many of the wide-cab locomotives built in the 1980's to early 1990's from EMD and GE are now sitting in dead yards instead of mainline service, all replaced by Progress Rail/EMD SD70ACe/SD70ACe-T4 and GE/Wabtec ES44DC/ES44AC locomotives.
So why is NS rebuilding SD40s into SD40-3s then
@detroitdieselseries5071 Because they sold off too many locos, and now realize that they made a mistake. These big RR's all have one thing in common--- BIGGER does not mean SMARTER.
I hate the EPA when it comes to these tier rules. Just like they’re trying to implement no lead gas for private planes. The EPA needs to get cut back on their rulings and the power that they have.
@@RichardKroboth The EPA needs to be abolished!
@@RichardKroboth Yeah, we should be allowed to spew diesel soot and lead fumes all over the place!
Thanks 😁
Plenty of souvenirs on those engines for railfans. Too bad they won't get pulled off and enjoyed by someone.
Number boards; horns; control stands; ditch lights; headlights w/Number board panels; roof flashing beacon; class lights; door panels with CP RAIL & Flags/SOO on them, all would make good additions to someone's model train room. So sad.
#7310 was just cut up in Calgary
NOT 2010😢😢😭😭😭😩😩😩
It's very sad to see any locomotives get cropped up they do very hard work for the owner and made lots of money for the company but maybe they will be brand new locomotives one day are maybe they will be in are new cars.
I don’t see any trains in this video. But I do see the locomotives being scrapped.
Sad. But the business of business is business. My bet is they are worth more as scrap AND clean air credits than locomotives.
👍👍👍
Should be a crime to desrtoy engines like this that could so easily be rebuilt. 2010 especially hurts but there is so much history and so much potential being tossed.
Freaking exactly what I’m saying I hate this new new railroad and it freaking sucks cause I feel like the Canadians are freaking taken over a railroad nothing the more that pisses me off is that🤬
And it should be a crime
@@crystalboutte9880, CP is run by Americans. Blame yourselves.
Try again.
You can not save every engine just because it’s old and has a good history. With the latest emission controls and much better fuel consumption most newer engines even though more expensive to buy are cheeper to run than to rebuild old units. Just look at the latest rules California wants to implement. If that is done and other states follow we will see even some newer model engines hit the scrap yard. Don’t blame the new Canadian Pacific Kanas City railroad for ignoring preservation. They just rebuilt and ran one of their old steam engines as well as some older diesel covered wagons to celebrate the new merger.
@@johnchambers8528 the regulations are b.s. And rebuilds are very much a thing. We never need to build another GEVO if we just keep improving existing units. Can't tell me a few particles of emissions negate the energy/pollution costs of scrapping and recycling all that material. It isn't possible.
Ho sad
EMD more like END 😂😂😂
Hard to watch as a SOO fan
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I love trains as much as the next railfan, but I don't get all the hand wringing and somber mourning here. These are just common locomotives. Not super rare historical heritage items. Rail companies can't waste money on machines that don't make money for them. It's not a tragedy. It's simple corporate capitalism. The weak and feeble get scrapped, and the CEO's get richer. that's how business works.
But trash 9’s and AC4400’s are also weak and feeble yet failroads hold on to those pieces of junk.
These WILL become rare too. 2010 already a rare breed. Apathy like yours and the shareholders will leave us with nothing to show for these formerly "common" locos too.
@@wesw9586 Being as long lived and popular as they are, a few should get into preservation. But again, these are TOOLS.
What bother's me the most is that why can't railroads just restore, surely they can be reused again as backup power or something that isn't the cutter's torch. Like FUKING USE THEM INSTEAD OF SCRAPPING IF THEY STILL RUN!
Given that some of these are approaching 60 years old, it's entirely possible the frame itself is just done.
@@davidfuller581 true but i have seen some cabs that are around the same age and they look still good.
Finally the GEVOS can now take over 🎉
What's the big deal they are just machines.
Well -- if you are into older rare cars, then let's scrap a couple of those-- same thing!!
NOOOOOOOOO!!! STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
Three Milwaukee Road units, that hurts.
The GP38’s are what I believe underrated when it comes to Preservation. We’ve become so familiar with their look and corporate colors that we don’t take notice until they’re all gone. Unless they have a rich history or age behind them.
Spot on Coloribus. Same issue with the classic passenger E7's. Once so common that they were not a big deal. Now only 1 is left in existence, preserved in a museum.
I wonder what happened with the number boards or builders plates or headlights? I'd have brought some cash with me and asked the contractors really nicely.
That’s just awful. Pieces of history torn to shreds, while CP turns a blind eye. Thanks for sharing.
there goes our bandit.. 😔
Thanks for the great video and interesting history on each one is a bonus.
But CP keeps preserving their pos ge junkboxes despite the fact that they breakdown CONSTANTLY…….oh that’s right ge fixes them on their own dime.
We must preserve the last remaining bandit 2010
Too late now.........
Not the 2010…that’s the worst!
Cool , Im a March of 67 model myself.
have SOO 2010 photos from quad cities and 4601 lived here. great video. sad results.
save them
Wait what. WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS WHY I HATE CP, well any news on 2010
RIP
Some historic locos there. Damn shame whats happening to them.
Very cruel that the working locos have to pass their dead relatives.
Cruel? They’re hunks of metal.
@@caderamsey8878 Sarcasm, i was being sarcastic.
Why did they not put some in the museums
Money and greed, scrappers can afford to pay/pay more.
@@CoenOinkeyTrains there has got to be a soft hearted scrapper out there
EPA mandates scrapping. None can be saved.
@@suppylarue220 No they don’t, donate them, simple.
Shareholders. End of story. Preservation doesn't make dividends.
If you could provide more updates on the MILW bandit 2010 that would be great
I can, and that is being worked on currently. As of today, the 2010 is in pieces, and no longer exists.
I painted a lot of those black bandits, I believe around 1987. We would paint two of them a night. They wanted them done in a hurry because of the merger going. Very little prep work and poor quality. The paint would start to come off when they went through the wash rack.😢
@@stevenk1746 thats awesome yeah i know who has the bandit doors and more
I really hate when people use the letter O as a number everyone needs to learn that when it's a number it's zero.
Oh, not my 2003. Glad i caught her with that slightly out of tune lonely sounding horn at Rondout in the mid 1990's. I guess every time i play my railroad "music" in the car that will be my forlorn tribute to her. From the first time i saw you on that Rondout video to the last time we met in person that summer night. Farewell.
Its sad to see this older power go away, but at the very least, they had a long service life. Thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoyed it.
Hopefully someone comes in last minute to save 2010. It's the last of it's kind, and gave 50 years of service on 3 different owners. She deserves more, i.e. Preservation in a museum.
Send an email to them and spread the word, if you do it mow then they might move it to the back of the scrap line
@@RailPreserver2K who cpkc? Like email the official email for cpkc?
Its a he! Not a she...
Don’t let Peter Jugo see this video. He’ll have a heart attack and remind us for the 100th time that he wishes CP would do more SD40s. Real one’s will understand this comment ☝️
Who are you and why are you being a bully
As of this date, CSX is still running GP40-2's, SD40-2's, and GP38-2's.
Even UP and BNSF have monster 2nd gen fleets to this day
I'm better off now
Tell the torchman I'll take the horn
I hope someone saves it off of the 2010!
8:11, 4425 not 4428
Excellent but sad
Maybe Dieselmotive company will step in and save a few locomotives. They did the same with the old Portland and Western diesel locomotives.
It is very pathetic to see the demise of this legendary EMD locomotives. Anyway, Do you have any information about the whereabouts of CP 6038? Does it still exists or scrapped? Please reply, 6038 is my most favourite SD40-2 from CP's roster.
I do not know the status, or whereabouts of the 6038. It *might* be at Humboldt Yard still, but I haven't seen it in years.
@@SD457500 how long ago you saw CP 6038 at Humboldt Yard? This means it is scrapped now?
If the economy was as good as the politicians say it is then these EMDs would be undergoing rebuilding instead of scrapping.
That’s not how any of it works. These things are going on 50 years old and it just doesn’t make sense to put so much money into something so old.
blame the politicians, if the workforce would do their jobs instead lying to their leadership maybe the rebuilding they "underwent" would keep them in service.
Well, that's not how it works. When the economy is doing well, companies reinvest in new, more efficient, equipment.
If the economy was as bad as the politicians say it is, railroads wouldn't have the money to invest in new locomotives to replace these.
@@SynchroScore I don't think the economy has anything to do with creating and buying new engines as it may seems. Feight is critical to the infrastructure of the country so it has priority costs from the government and investors.
wouldnt it be cheaper to remove the body but keep the frame and other electronics intact and put the unused locomotive in storage or do a rebuild??
I know this goes on all the time, but I don't want to watch............
I usually miss some of the best railroads and my favorite was conrail
Did you manage to salvage the horns or anything like that?
Nah, I was just observing from a distance, and taking it all in as they went about their normal business. I HOPE something is able to save parts, and items, off of them.
@ 3:57
Is that a supercharger?!?!
Sad to see some engines that have been a part of railroad history scrapped and not be put in a museum. But they did serve their time throughout their life and they deserve to rest forever.
Great video Douglas! Like the historic explanation of each locomotive you did. ;)
Someone needs to go and save the horns..
I know that a number of them were, thankfully.
I love those SD trucks with those springs, do they save those trucks. Show us a video on how they dismantle them. Good job !!👍👍👍
Great video and sad at the same time 😢
Sad time
Where men cried
They could have been rebuilt and could still be running the rails
Before those units went over to that track. 3 of them had brass bells that I got to have
I heard about those bells on the power; hopefully they get saved and see use somewhere else. Thanks for watching, and the comment.
I am sure any usable parts that can be resold will be saved. Just like old automotive parts get saved from junked cars to serve the rebuild market.
THE T&D RAILROAD WILL NOT SCRAP LOCOMOTIVES ( UNLESS ) THEY ARE ( TOTALLY DESTROYED ) IN A WRECK OR ( OBSOLETE ) AND CAN NOT SALE THEM .
And who/ where is T&D. RR????
I hope I hear the railroad crying and wishing they had never scrapped those locos, It seems to me that the railroads are rushing to get rid of anything that don’t have epa emissions on it, fuck you epa!
The part I don't get, is that these locos meet emissions for the year they were built. So-- how can EPA, or anybody say that a 35 year old loco has to ALL OF A SUDDEN ,meet the present day emission rules????
Trains are the most environmentally friendly mode of transportation even with older locomotives yet the EPA screws with the railroads non stop. But that’s okay they have screwing with the auto industry too which is why you have these small turbo engines replacing naturally aspirated V6’s and V8’s. The federal government needs to be abolished. Waste of tax dollars pieces of crap!