1930s MIDWEST STEAM TRAINS & STREAMLINERS IN ACTION HOME MOVIE (SILENT) MD86544
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This silent home movie begins with a segment photographed in the St. Paul / Minneapolis, Mn. Twin cities area in the 1930s. It shows activity at Minneapolis Junction and the area down the Mississippi River, showing trains from Soo, Milwaukee Road, Chicago & Northwestern and Great Northern.The second portion of the film dates up to fifteen years later and starts at around 13 minutes. It focuses on 1st generation streamliner trains. This is a silent film.
Shots include:
00:06 Train passing over movie camera
00:14 Milwaukee Road streamlined Hiawatha steam train, most likely scenes filmed in twin cities, St Paul and Minneapolis, Mn.
00:37.23 CB&Q Steam train, no location
00:48 0-8-0 USRA designed No 60 Steam switcher
01:00.11 Milwaukee Steam locomotive 4-6-4 6421 (built 1931)
01:05 Shot of railroad from last car passing small depot
01:10 Passing scenery
01:37 Hastings, Mn. Mississippi River bridge
01:54 Milwaukee Road steam train
02:12 Milwaukee Road 4-6-4 6405 St Paul Roundhouse
02:45 Scenes around shop area
03:19 Hiawatha streamlined locomotive
03:24 2-8-0 Consolidation 7612
04:02 Steam engine 8515 switching
04:09 watering steam engine
04:17 Rock Island train
04:30 Great Northern steam engine 2515
04:17 Rock Island train
04:50 Pacing steam train
05:18 Great Northern steam loco
05:33 St. Paul rail yard scenes
05:50 Mississippi River scene
05:55 St. Paul Minneapolis Junction Yard scenes including Gas Electric car, Chicago & North Western
07:11 Twin Cities CB&Q Budd built Zephyr
07:20 Yard scenes
08:48 In switching Tower - Minneapolis Junction, St. Paul
09:37 View of track switches
09:45 Overhead view of tracks
09:59 Leaving St. Paul, viewed from Twin Cities Zephyr
10:48 Along Mississippi River
11:36 Twin Cities Zephyr entering station
11:42 Steam engine
13:03 COLOR section begins
Milwaukee Road Hiawatha
13:35 Diesel train
13:45 Milwaukee Road Hiawatha - steam loco
14:37 Along Salt Lake, Utah
15:06 Union Pacific/Chicago & North Western early streamliner
15:12 Milwaukee Road through Pipestone Pass - Western Rockies
15:45 Train wreck
16:20 Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range Railroad “Yellowstone” locomotive 202
16:42 Florida East Coast EMD E6 passenger diesel
17:33 Seaboard Coast Line passenger diesel no 3000
17:50 Atlantic Coast Line diesel
18:15 Rock Island Lines locomotive
18:30 Old Steam Engine 132
19:00 People in costumes - early Midwestern settlers reenactment
19:19 Shooting artillery guns in river
19:30 Boat races
19:40 Engine 136
19:50 Train Wreck
20:32 Chicago & North Western
20:42 Great Northern Railroad
20:52 Steam train
21:50 Southern Railway
22:11 Rock Island diesel
22:38 Milwaukee Road Hiawatha
22:45 Santa Maria steam train
23:22 Rock Island diesel
23:23 Milwaukee Road Hiawatha - Minneapolis, Mn.
24:14 Dead Wood Central
25:40 Edaville 2 ft railroad Massachusetts
26:43 CB&Q Cab ride
28:30 C&NW Route of the 400s
28:48 Milwaukee Road
28:57 Triple headed steam train
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At 17:50 the Atlantic Coast Line purple locomotive with "The Champion" on the front is the #501 and is at the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer NC. I worked there in high school and was around it a lot. Beautiful locomotive.
Beautiful locomotives and trains. Thanks for saving this one.
20:12 thats a Chicago & Northwestern E2a pacific!!! I've never seen video of them in color! Thats amazing
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@@PeriscopeFilm also that first CNW E2a pacific was the famous 2908 with its giant triangle shaped 400 nameplate on its headlamp.
20:22 This CNW E2 is either 2902 or 2912 with The 400's old green pullmans
The pacing shot with the GN P-2, amazing. That beauty was highballing.
The heck of a film with some very rare subjects in it..
Thanks for posting. I actually rode the Milwaukee Hiawatha from Milwaukee to Chicago led by "A" class 4-4-2 #4. And also the North Shore Electro Liner round trip when it was almost new. This brings back some good memories.
Wow!! so much amazing footage!! Great video.
This has made my day. Finally some excellent footage of class A and F7 Hiawathas on UA-cam! Thanks!
as a steam fan this is a treat and a half
My word, that guy jumping about all over the tracks doing hand signals with trains coming at him from all directions, literally jumping clear at the last moment ...
Some of this footage was shot in places other then the Mid West. I particularly recognized the trestle over the Great Salt Lake in Utah and the Seabord units are definitely Eastern. And the Santa Maria Valley Railroad is in California, but still it's a great video. Thanks for posting it.
One magnificent Soo Line 4-6-2 toward the end, very rare to see this upper mid west Granger road, especially in color. How I wish I had interest in film back in the early 50s. Ah well, so it goes.
Wonderful, yet a little bit haunting
I kinda wish I lived in those times even though I probably wouldn't be around today
Part of you thinks "if only there was sound as well ", but these are very good for amateur home movies from the 1930s. Brilliant pacing shot at 4:30, imagine him hanging out of the car window holding the camera to do that
The music is erie but also calming..
Fantastic footage. Some of the best I've ever seen.
At 20:12 we have “The 400”. This was the steam powered version which started running Jan 2, 1935.
Here’s what David P. Morgan, in the Nov 1963 Trains Magazine - p.11, says about the train:
It all began on Jan 2, 1935, when Chicago & North Western jumped the gun on rivals Burlington and Milwaukee Road by sidestepping streamliners and installing instead a high-speed steam train on the Chicago-Twin Cities run. Rebuilt E-2A Pacifics ran off the 408.4 miles from Chicago to St. Paul in 7 hours flat - hence the name 400. Streamlined and dieselized in 1939, the 400 became a fleet of streamliners.
--end-
At 20:15, below the center headlight (which is off, the flashing light is mounted on top of the boiler and isn’t the headlight), there is a triangle (with the ends cutoff) which has the name of the train: The “400” (always in quotes). The cutoff triangle was also on the observation car which is visible at 20:27.
The initial steam-powered “400” was renamed the Twin Cities “400” when it was streamlined and other trains were added to the C&NW streamliner fleet using the “400” moniker (e.g. Dakota “400”, Chicago to Rapid City; The Flambeau “400”, Chicago to Ashland WI). The diesels for the new 1939 streamlined train were available before the cars were delivered however, and for a short time the new EMD E6 diesels pulled the “400” with the initial heavyweight equipment. This is the train seen at 20:32. At 27:03, we see the streamlined Twin-Cities “400” backing into St Paul Union Station (I think... I believe the passenger trains that started in Minneapolis and went to St. Paul - on their way to other destinations - backed into St. Paul.) This shot is taken from the cab, which is a cab-ride that starts at 26:43. Notice all the people on the platform at 28:26, and the film of the engineer at 28:29. Was this the first run of the streamlined Twin-Cities “400”, or some other special occasion?
Twin-Cities “400”:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Cities_400
www.american-rails.com/twin-cities-400.html
At 23:09 we have an interesting anomaly. A Milwaukee Road streamlined F7 class Hudson, and behind it, a Rock Island streamliner pulled by an EMC TA diesel. The unique TA's were built to pull the “Rock Island Rocket” streamliners (and at 23:19, you can see “THE ROCKET” lettering on the locomotive). Where did the Milwaukee Road and Rock Island share a station with modern streamlined trains in the late 30's? Not Chicago, that's for sure; and "The Rockets" didn't initially go to St. Paul. The train-station sort of looks like the old Milwaukee Road’s Milwaukee Station. Maybe the Rock Island Rocket is on a publicity tour before they were put into regular service?
At 23:52 we see the Milwaukee Road’s unique “Beaver Tail” Observation Car.
What a video!
EMC TA: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_TA
Rockets: www.classicstreamliners.com/npt-rock-island-rockets.html
The Milwaukee Road Hudson: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Road_class_F7
Other streamlined locomotives: streamlinermemories.info/?page_id=13253
Beaver Tail Observation car: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Tail_(railcar)#:~:text=The%20Beaver%20Tails%20were%20a,the%20Chicago%2C%20Milwaukee%2C%20St.&text=They%20served%20as%20the%20observation,by%20the%20new%20Skytop%20Lounge.
The steam powered "400" routinely topped 90mph, holding its own against the Twin Zephyrs and Hiawathas
The Chicago & Northwestern's E2 pacifics are constantly overshadowed by the Milwaukee roads Atlantics and hudsons and other famous engines that ran to the twin cities, it's a shame really.
*Those pacifics were really good, my favorite is 2908 because it had a unique marslight that pointed at the sky*
Those streamlined locomotive fairings were really something! Wish you had cited the music source tho. Two vague memories I have: my Grandma taking me to the yard in Peoria, Il. To see the last few steam engines when I was about 4 and flying with mother from NY city to Chicago aboard a Lockheed Connie. I was 6. Talk about LOUD!
Thank you so much for the footage of steam...on 1950-1970my crew hung out and hopped trains in St Paul familiar scenes👍,grabbed a few "torpedoes",flares & shot w/rock salt shotguns by r.r.dicks in suits👋
17:19 thats a gorgeous Florida East Coast 4-8-2 Mountain, those were built in the 1920s by Alco in Richmond Virginia
This is really a treat. The shots are very well composed.
Many thanks!
Thank you ...some beautiful 'ol relics.... great footage...
17:19 a Florida East Coast railway 4-8-2 Mountain, these were numbered 401-452, and were built by ALCO in the 1920s in Richmond Virginia, along with the other FEC 4-6-2s and 4-8-2s
The multitude of tracks sure looks like the SPUD in St. Paul Minnesota.
Wow, the train is like a huge legendary beast. Thank you for posting - TinyTrainTrack
At 19:19, they are shooting the cannons into the St. Croix River at Stillwater MN - that is the famous lift bridge in the background, same location for the boat races at 19:40.
A couple others have complained about the music, but I thought it was perfect! Makes it both poignant and surreal.
17:12 that's a Florida East Coast railway 4-8-2 heavy mountain, these were the last classes of 4-8-2s built for the FEC, and the biggest steam engines on the FEC system.
Awesome!
Wish I could'a been there.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO, plus I live in St. Paul and recognize many of those sites. One more thing, that is actually the southern pacific daylight at 22:38 not the Hiawatha. You can tell by the ending car being rounded (they did not have that on the Hiawatha in the 30s) and by the gs4 locomotive in the front, similar to (and possibly could be) 4449 daylight that is operational today.
Great film of some rare subjects 😺 fantastic access!
At 13:44 you can see a CB&Q S-4a "Aeolus" pulling the Twin Cities Zephyr.
The streamlined steam locomotive you see at the beginning was the first brand new one built in 1935 for the Milwaukee Road R.R.
Beautifully done. My compliments to whoever created this.
This is nice
12:46 thats Chicago & Northwestern E2 pacific 2903. It's a huge shame none of these gorgeous pacifics were preserved
I feel very strongly that I should've lived in this era instead of the last quarter of the 20th century and the first quarter of the 21st. I only got to see a few steam trains when I was very young, but I love them and this period of time. Simpler life, hard work, families in tact, a lot less government intrusion into our lives... Sure, we have improvements, but lots more negatives imo, so I'd trade what we have now for the way life was then.
You speak the truth. What an incredible and proud era the early-to-mid-twentieth century must have been. 1930-1960 USA was probably the peak of human civilization (and moral values) in human history. Life was often tough, but it bred strong honest people/families IMO. Shame its been headed downhill ever since.
At 4:14 (the Rock Island train). That is actually the Denver Zephyr.
The following text is taken from a picture caption on p.22 of Burlington Bulletin No 50 titled "Overnight, Every Night, Act 1: Burlington's 1936 Denver Zephyr", by John W. Schultz. The picture shows the train above (at a different place).
To enable the redeployment of one of its original Twin Zephyrs to service in Texas pending the delivery of new, larger Twin Zephyr trainsets, beginning Sept 23, 1936, the Q matched leased EMC box cab "Diesel Locomotive" demonstrator 511 with six (of 10) cars from one of the new Denver Zephyr trainsets (auxiliary engine-RPO-baggage, baggage-dormitory-lounge, two chair cars, diner, and parlor-lounge-observation) to pinch-hit on Twin-Zephyrs 21 and 24. On Oct 24, the 511 wheels No. 21 out of Aurora, Ill. In nine days, the train will complete its temporary Chicago-Minneapolis Zephyr assignment. - Ted Gay, J. C. Seacrest collection.
So we also know the rough date of that portion of the video.
Imagine, a video of a train that ran for just over a month, in 1936!
Sorry, it should have read: That's actually the Denver Zephyr trainset.
Your comments give excellent insight on this video. Thank you!
Safety rules have changed a lot since the time of these old scenes. Stepping on the rails, as those yard workers were doing, would probably result in the employee getting fired today.
22:00 that's either a Southern railway Ps-2 or Ps-3 light pacific
I wonder how many hobos were on these trains?
Depended on the number of bulls (railroad cops) working the yards.
11:27 Track Inspection Car on the opposite track ?
Cool film. Music was a bit much.
At 13:44 we have one of the Burlington's streamlined steam locomotives (a class S-4A 4-6-4 Hudson), which were used as backup-power for the 1930's Denver and Twin-Cities Zephyr's (in the event the assign diesels needed repairs). Their names were: Æolus, in keeping with the "Wind" theme of the Zephyr's name.
www.classicstreamliners.com/lo-cb-q-class-s-4a.html
streamlinermemories.info/?page_id=13253
www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=72082
A sternwheeler pushing a tow of barges at 5:50????
Amazing footage, thanks for sharing! but the film data, website address, and logo at the bottom of the screen were a major distraction and often blocked the view of important details like running gear, pistons, drivers, etc. Please edit and re-post. And, hey, some music from the 1930s would be much more enjoyable and appropriate, instead of those super-modern synthesizers.
At 13:07 we have a Milwaukee Road class A Atlantic (4-4-2) locomotive, pulling one of the Chicago to Twin-Cities Hiawatha trains.
www.american-rails.com/hiawatha.html
streamlinermemories.info/?page_id=13253
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Road_class_A
What the heck was that tom-tomming in the background of this supposedly "silent" movie? Annoying, it is.