Jacob-Rees Mogg in South Shields - painting the town blue?
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2014
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No matter what your political views are, you've got to admit Mogg has some balls walking into a hard line labour constituency and then going into a working class pub with a big Tory badge on
... it's his face, his height and his clothes that make him stick out the most. Might as well have rode in on a horse wearing a top hat shouting "what-ho!".
Leyton Jay yeah exactly, the guy certainly has guts
Well done. Further ostracise people from the left by acting like an angry little child like most do. Bravo
Yeah he's got some bottle that pub looked like it was about to kick off at any given moment. What a hero 👍🏻
Kekistani nationalist well said my friend
He's so aggressively polite.
Quacktics are Go the best form of politeness. Fists and apologies. :)
aggressively polite - the best kind of insult.
Kill them with kindness
The thing with mogg, he's incredibly whitty so he doesn't get frustrated and confused in a debate and thus is able to keep his cool. It's kinda adorable haha
It's like he's come via a time machine from 1945.
I've never seen him and Louie Theroux in the same room...
that's a real insult to louis
Lydia Nope, that’s a compliment
Looks nothing like him
How dare you say Louis and this mogul head in the same sentence
I haven't seen him in the same room as Johnny Sins but that doesn't mean much, does it....
“Ultimately, the Tories could replace the Labour Party.”
Five years later and it comes true in many places like this.
South Shields is still Labour.
xm3 I know, I said places like this.
DIANNE ABBOTT CALLING BINGO ALL THE THREES TWENTY TWO
Adrian1996 ultimately the tories will never replace Labour. The tories are poler opposite to Labour. Just wait until Labour falls back into favour with Scotland then they will be back in force
Caveman 😂😂😂😂
Politics should be a mandatory subject in school half the people in Britain don't have a fucking clue
Precisely the half that votes Lâbêh
+Vulpes Inculta And if we had politics in school you might not be repeating the propaganda of the right wing press
***** There really isn't much of a left wing press anymore
knowing the number lefty teachers we have that would be a disaster.
Our politics class share the same view!
Please make this into a series. Jacob-Rees Mogg visits places
GingerJoberton And doesn't give a fuck while being posh
GingerJoberton "Jacob Rees-Mogg visits places" hahahaha xD id watch that lmao
Shell Shocked Shithead ...people like you are the problem
Jacob Rees-Mogg visits Mosul. Jacob Rees-Mogg visits Berkeley. Jacob Rees-Mogg visits Hull. Jacob Rees-Mogg visits Brussels.
Mogg doesn't need to pay for it.
“People are so engrained”... well this hasn’t aged well
Emily Jay not really, labour did still win South Shields
@@elizabethparnell4724 But the north in general, it still hasn't aged well
Don't mistake spikes for trends!
turns out anti EU sentiment was further ingrained than voting labour.
It has.
"And we need to cut taxes, you're absolutely right." 🤣
Cut taxes means less public services, I don't understand why English people find that difficult to understand and then they are crying about the NHS. 14 years of failure and its not completely obvious when you look at other countries. The way people live in the UK is depressing, the state of houses people rent, and victorian diseases like scurvy returning and schools collapsing with no real plan on fixing it despite being one of the richest countries in the world, there's no excuse for it
@@nicholasr39 The UK currently has the highest tax burden since the war. It's going great for public services...
Don't you just love it when a posh Oxford style boy meets chavs haha brilliant
It's entertainment, and certainly a novel approach but I think a bit silly to send someone like him in a different class with absolutely nothing in common with these people and probably the type of person who reinforces the stereo-type image of Conservatives being the party of the rich. They'd be better off sending MP's from other working class areas and backgrounds, and showing data on historical performance of Labour v Conservative in their constituency.
Nick Nack
True. The community there is mixed and some clearly support Conservatives and other parties, but they're definitely a minority. He was going on an exploration mission with an open mind I guess to find out why. However, the demographics and history of the place tells you everything you need to know and what you're up against, on paper really. I think it was more a news publicity stunt, or PR exercise by the Conservatives. This guy to his credit though, is trying to involve ordinary working class people more in politics all the time with his TV appearances etc, and wants people to be more involved in the running of the country, which is definitely a good thing in the age of social media where voters should have more involvement and say in how things are run. Labour only show up when they want your vote. Then are happy for you to remain silent and let them take all the decisions.
Nick Nack
Me either, they leaflet my area but that's all, they don't bother knocking the door. UKIP and Lib Dem are consistent in that they do knock doors.
Labour has the mentality of bloc votes I think. They just roll out the map, and do it in a very calculated math way. They know they have areas of the country like South Shields which they're totally safe, generations of Labour supporters, and so they don't bother going there. that's a bloc vote.. then there's the minority votes, LGBT and ethnic minorities, particularly the large Muslim bloc vote, Labour relies on. Once they counted all these bloc votes up and tested their popularity in those, they then focus their efforts on swing areas and/or getting a high turnout, plus some election fraud of course.
I despise the party, I really do, and everything they stand for. They do not stand for the "working person" it's a myth that's been perpetuated around Labour. They're only generous on welfare and maintaining a large welfare State. That's not the answer though, it hasn't worked and has turned the country into a magnet for migrants. Just like giving large donations of cash to regimes in Africa isn't going to solve the poverty there without real work on the ground, education and investment in economically active people.
Labour is the worse of all political parties for bad governance if you look at their history. Some of their mistakes and decisions have been of epic proportions that no competent small company would do, let alone a government. Like Brown selling a third of the UK's gold reserve at the start of a recession, to buy Euro's a currency we never would have. The Lisbon Treaty signing, surrendering British sovereignty and trade power to Brussels and costing the UK hundreds of billions over the years. And what do we have to show for it? Then there's the Iraq-Afghan war under Blair. Mass immigration under Blair too. The list goes on and on.
You can go right back to 1947 and the Immigration Act granting British nationality and residency to the entire Commonwealth, over 1.6 billion people back then. That was Labour's decision.
The 1970's energy crisis and rapid economic and industrial decline of Britain happened also at Labour's peak of their power when they had nearly every industry State nationalized still. They couldn't run a single one profitably.
Nick Nack
Uuugh yes. You can spot the Labour guys in unions too..always the big wide-arm framed glasses and loud mouths lol. I had a run-in with one such guy who worked for Royal Mail not long before it was privatised. Had to school him in who pays his wages and how businesses work, he had the mindset the businesses serve Royal Mail and its some institution that can forever go on losing money unaccountable and having "Royal" in the name and being State-owned allows him and his ilk to talk to its customers like crap and play the big man. I paid £15k in postage that year with 4 consecutive price hikes, and the nerve of the guy!
Nick Nack
Exactly!
*swears*
“Oh okay that’s a blunt answer”
😂 hahaha
She said "Because David Cameron shagged a pig"
Arnaud Meert thanks I couldn’t understand anything she was saying
wel its better thab dilly dallying around and using 1oo words and still getting no proper answer from someone as most politicians do
My sister is friends with that woman ✌ I live here
I love how polite he is, even when sworn at. Such grace
He’s got guts, I’ll say that for him.
Everyone has got guts
When Labour were in power they had their chances to do something, put it that way.
@@magirusdeutzjupiter2234 they did do something, they called most of them racist for voting leave
He's got neck ill say that for him
I should have added, he seems to treat everyone with respect , which sadly can't be said of some of the comments below.
I'm not big on intersectionality, but it appears a lot of people are unfortunately. People see JRM and all they see is a posh white man and feel, with that knowledge alone, they know all they need about him. However he is exceptionally brilliant on economics, policy and administration.
the tories have always done a good job of being nice while being utter bastards at the same time. it's what they do
@@seesidesummerhouse6112 he only has a 2nd class degree so no he's not exceptionally brilliant in any way. He just had some money left him that's all.
To their face.
It’s called putting on a front. Behind the smile and comfortable clothing is a man who ultimately doesn’t care about the public but more about his bank account. He’s an elitist which means he believes in the class system and if the class system stays in place we never be equal.
"ah okay thats a blunt answer" absolutely killed me
Rees Mogg vs 3 chavs: Clash of the Titans
XDDDDD
5 years can change a lot in politics
"And we need to cut taxes"
"Hello sir" (to a ned)
Mogg in a nutshell
THE WORKING CLASS WHO VOTED laBORE WILL ALWAYS BE WORKING CLASS
This is the kind of thing all MPs should be doing: reaching out to those from wildly different classes and persuasions. Mogg does it brilliantly here, with humour and not an ounce of aloofness (despite his almost comically patrician background)
Why would a working or jobless class (I hate that word) person vote Tory? Tories work for bankers and the corporate elites.
He's a smart cookie
hes a fascist who ill have you picking fruit at 40p/hour while his nanny carries him to the poll
i this why i dont understand why the working class reads the sun, its for fascists who dont like real news
Jeremy Smith fascists, really?
I don't really understand the people who misuse the chance of talking to an MP like that, party being irrelevant. Education comes first, then ideology.
You’re joking, almost nobody knows the policies of the various parties, let alone the long term consequences, and vote solely on the perception about what they stand for and self-interest. If the voters really knew the long term problems that have been building over decades, they wouldn’t vote for any of the established parties.
Oh so true Benzknees !
But if people used their brains we wouldnt need realist MP's like JRM to go out into the public and try talk to them :P
trust me mate, having come from a council estate myself, the people from those places know very little about politics all together. my ex girlfriend never voted and her reason was "she doesn't want the government knowing where she lives". bear in mind that she pays taxes and her address is on her wage slips. she has a bank account etc.. a lot of it's due to ignorance
I talk to my local MP back in 2012 he was Useless
I’m no conservative but Rees-mogg is hilarious
Yes, But the joke has become really, really, really, really, really tired now!
It's a very dry sort of humor, but given the context it's absolutely appropriate. What I love more is the complete contrast between this video and the one where he took Jess Philips on a tour of his own constituency. She travels into his domain with him to help guide her and all she does is badmouth everyone and everything while being awkward and rude; he goes alone into an opposing constituency and never once fails to attempt charm and wit.
Unintentionally
There comes a point when no matter how unbelievably funny someone is, if they are despicable enough, they should never make you laugh.
Joel Morley good that’s he’s not despicable then isn’t it.
Not to sound workerist or “classist”, but the majority of respondents in this video make me feel incredibly proud to be working class. Big love to the people of South Shields.
Anyone seen the Ali G interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg? It's worth a watch.
Curtis DeLor thank you for recommend
Soda pop pop pop.
Curtis DeLor it is life
It's brilliant, I'm not much of a fan of Jacob but he took that interview like a trooper
Curtis DeLor will do
His social skills are a solid 10/10
Not really. He comes across as a mix between a vampire and a priest spreading the good word.
Yeah, I think he’s nice and his social media posts are a good read as well .
He's about as social as a wasp in a top hat
@@johnlannikk2701 brilliant! I’m going to use that!! 😂😂😂
...... or they just only edited in the successful footage into this video obviously. he's got all the social skills of a wooden spoon mate
I'm watching this in 2020, I am dying of laughter after hearing someone say "the north will never vote tory". Oh how the tables have turned.
Oh how the poor bast ards were conned!
Proud to say South Shields is still Labour though.
@@Dylanesque conned??? they voted tory for the first time ever, and its because for the first time ever that the labour party put 2 fingers up to its own voters. you cannot ignore the voters and even suggesting a second vote on the eu is clearly anti democratic. the politicians were told to do something, the only ones that were willing to follow the orders of the voters, got the voters backing.
Hey Nicholas. The north I.e the English north. Us Scots don’t vote for English nationalists bastards like this. SNP all the way.
Said north east
Jacob Rees Mogg + King Street + South Shields Metty Station + Chavs. What more could you want?
Brexit
Mighty Marouane Fellaini All the lads gannin on a metty mish
The Plucky Brit yes aye
That shields for you
ur basically calling all working class chavs then
im middle class but most of the people there were hardworking working class ex miners who have basically been persecuted by the conservative policies
Old Labour voters voting for New Labour. Fools. The two are completely different.
My late Great Auntie May (1908-2006) was real old Labour and told me she jumped for joy when Labour won in 1945. When I told her that I had changed support to the Tories in 2003, she was gobsmacked...but she respected my choice. Coming from south east Wales, Labour there only get in from generations of families simply voting Labour for the sake of it 'my Dad blah blah blah voted Labour, so will I' attitude.
Yeah it's the same here in the North West mate, tribal voting is a problem.
"Livening off tax payers money" after he's just been to collect his dole.
Pretty judgemental thing to say
+Wayne Thompson The difference is a single male gets £73.10 per week, how much do the MPs get?
+solatiumz thats a single male over 25, under that its @ £52 ish a week.
MP's get something like £400 a DAY just to turn up to parliament ontop of all the allowances + Salary.
Rage Quit
Indeed, I went for the higher just incase anyone mentioned it later, also MPs get back handers from big business to ask questions, get bills passed etc. The worst thing is us paying their mortgages.
The thing is Jacob Rees-Mogg denied to recieve any kind of wage as an MP
Everyone says they vote for labour but when you asked why they haven't got a clue
No they didn't, most on the high street were bnp or ukip. This is why both main parties are moving further to the right. The ones whom stated they voted labour mentioned decline of industry, increased taxation, lack of opportunity, youth unemployment and poor understanding or empathy regarding the working classes. but we live in an age where you watched a video and then denied every statement made that didn't come from a tory.
That’s just not true though is it. Everyone I know who votes labour knows exactly why, including myself.
not really true is it
@@joetaylor8602 it seems to be the other way around doesn't it, ask a tory why they vote for them and whatever they say usually ends up being bullshit..
@@lukeguy6091 *who stated, don't overcomplicate it.
He is so very unbearably posh. If i were to make a caricature of a Tory from the 1800s, he'd be it.
What would the average Victorian butler think of this news? Well joining us now is Jacob Rees-Mogg
As someone who has James Connelly as his profile picture and as a fellow republican, i would like to comment saying that I completely understand your views on "Tories" I dont think Jacob comes into this bracket, this is a religiously tolerant roman Catholic conservative mp, being conservative or Tory doesn't automatically mean you hate everyone who isn't rich that's the misconception, he challenges anti catholic bigotry within his own party, it never makes the news, he has antipathy towards other religions and sexualitites, he maybe posh, so what? If you had the money your kids would become posh by proxy wouldn't make you any more of a man, or your kids any less, dont judge a book by its cover, that's what your claiming and condemning others for doing
@@sdh6983 I appreciate the thought put into your reply. I wouldn't necessarily say that he's a bad person because of being rather wealthy and posh but rather that he's symptomatic of the ever present and worsening class divisions within the UK.
I wouldn't dare say that he or every other Conservative party Etonian hated the working class, rather that their upbringing and position of power and wealth prevents them from understanding the needs and priorities of ordinary working people.
@@sdh6983 He's spoken out against abortion, yet invested in a company that developed an abortion pill. this man has no morals especially if discarding his morals makes him richer
@@dwayne_dibley yeah but it's human nature only got to go back to Blair. Bombed a nation, now he's rebuilding it, With he's company. It's gonna take hundreds of years, before we learn. Look how far we have come since 1919!
I had to laugh at the three tracksuited locals complaining that MP's are a waste of tax payers money....... Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle!
Les steel Were they unemployed? How do you know that?
paulmrussell12 Because they were walking around in the middle of the day, tracksuits, mindless political and racist opinions, all very good indicators of wasters and I guarantee at least one of them sell drugs.
+boxxer221 People who wear tracksuits also have jobs and also have days off.
+boxxer221 Have you heard of weekends did you not see the kids with their parents Jesus Christ
Lycurgus Why argue, I can spot the type a mile off because I used to hang around with them when I was in my teens. Are you really going to tell me these guys are curing cancer during the week or something? Lets be real....
This guy has me in stitches at least he has more bottle than most mp's to go into area where he isn't wanted
ap24101988 Yes but he has grown up in a bubble. He’s never mixed with ordinary people, whilst growing up, unlike so many other MPs.
I suspect most people in the comments here are unaware of how private schools really are! Posh kids can be the worst when it comes to beatings, so I wouldn't let his accent fool you. I suspect he either knows how to handle himself in a fight or he at least has the skills to defend himself in one.
I'm sure his minders were just out of sight of the camera.
@BriBit ARe you f**king serious! Jacob Mike Tyson MOGG!! FFS!!! LOL!!
@@markmahabir6342 Mogg will F you up mate.
Via charming his constituents pants off.
Here’s how I describe South Shields in one sentence.
They stole their own defibrillator.
It’s the only place I’ve seen that happen.
Just as a side bar DIY SOS turned up in West Bromwich and the locals nicked all the tools from there vans!
😂 😂 😂
My late father was a builder in North Yorkshire. In his final year, in 2022, aged 92, he was recalling tales from the jobs he had worked on. He shook his head sadly, in disbelief, as he recalled building a toilet block on a site for the local 'travelling commununity' (he wasn't quite so polite) back in the 1970s or 80s.
It was paid for by the local authority, (ie taxpayers) of course, and he said that within a week of it being finished, all the copper pipes had been stolen!
3:20
"Their just living off the tax payers money" -- Dole heads in trackies
Do you mean, "They're just living off the taxpayers money"? And you call them Chavs!
Yeah... and when was it last called the ‘dole’‽
I suppose it says something about the age of the commenter.
@@garrymackenzie309 What does that even mean lol, also it's still called dole quite a lot.
The dole IS benefits, you sillies
They probably picked moggs pocket while he was talking to them!! 😂😂😂 Fucking chavs, too thick to realise there benefits come from the tax payer too! Don't worry, they're probably in prison at this stage......... Also at the taxpayers expense! 😂😂😂😂
There plenty of things I struggle to agree with Jacob-Rees Mogg on but at least he sits down a talks to people and seems to listen. instead f the modern liberals who just preach and shout at you when you so much as suggest an even alternative to their proposals.
That is a fair observation. He is polite and courteous even to those who disagree with him. A smile and good manners can carry you a long way.
I can't decide whether this bloke's got massive bollocks or he's just not experienced enough to worry. Walking into a working man's pub with a Tory badge on? Brave!
It's because he knows that Conservatives are being unfairly percieved by voters in the area and with a little education and informing of the facts they could make their own informed choice if the Tories are really that bad instead of following the rest in the area who for some reason say Tories are bad.
He went to a posh school as a child. Posh kids are the most vicious! I imagine he had a lot of experience defending himself growing up. Have you heard of hazing?
The UK needs to innovate and educate its way into jobs that replace old manufacturing jobs.
This is something we can do now we are not shackled by the EU
why not replace `````with`````` the manufacturing jobs? Only during the years in the eec/eu did we see declines in industry.
Jacob Rees mogg makes me sick
The days have long gone when Labour was the working mans party.
Oh yeah so who is then, the Tories?? Are you watching the same video as everyone else!!??
@@markmahabir6342 Labour has become the middle-class champagne socialist party since Tony Blair!.
Labour is good at getting brain washed idiots to vote for. Just lying to them about closing down the NSH. They want to keep them poor so they keep voting labour.labour sold out workers years ago for the migrant and far left greenie vote.
Mark Mahabir of course the Tories aren’t, but neither are Labour anymore. Corbyn would rather appeal to the middle class Glastonbury rich kids. Hence why a lot of the old traditional labour vote now feel “politically homeless” and will probably vote Brexit party.
Labour is the party of foreigners and urbanites. It has abandoned the working class.
Any plan to keep Dianne Abbott out of any decision making for this country is a worth while idea.
Keyser Söze she shouldnt even be allowed to live, let alone hold one of the most important roles in the country. She is a disgrace.
btosi haha call me racist I don't care. She isn't a moron because she is black, she is a moron because she is a moron. However, without being black she would not have been elected because her constituents would not have identified with her. Yes she is shadow Home Secretary, I'm saying if labour win she will have power. Use your brain more.
yeah reese mogg will cut your pensions pay and rights, mayhem has sold the nhs to trump, the trade deal will introduce far lower food standards to allow them to sell beef full of growth hormones anti-biotics and chlorinated chicken, US eggs are often contaminated with salmonella, the eu is paying 70 quid an hour contracting.
Jeremy Smith you're joking right? Otherwise you're a moron. Everything you just said is a lie. Stop lying!
yes edl have no clue of reesemogs policies have you darling would you like to see the recruitment? no not in the daily wail are they
Whenever politicians go canvassing they should have to bring cameras just for the memes
send Corbyn to a constituency that had never had a Labour MP
that I would like to see
He’s gone lol
This guy has a likable personality.
What a brilliant man Jacob-Rees Mogg is. He has such tolerance for rude comments and hatred towards tories. He sounds so posh yet he is able to make some of these people like him because he has such charm. I wish he was my MP.
JM AF Conservatism is not toxic.
You've got to have fantastic customer skills to get by in this business, you don't get anywhere being weak.
Brilliant man? Typical patronising tory nob more like.
You fell for his bullshit. He will destroy working people
or he was your daughter's father
I don’t particulalry like Mogg per se. What is unusual is that he seems to tell the truth. You will get a relatively straight answer from him so at least you know what his opinion is. Even if every single thing you disagreed with him on at least you can know what he thinks.
So why don’t you like him?
the sad part of that is the word unusual, it shouldnt ever be unusual for a politician to be truthful.
Its funny how just a few years on, much of the north east turned blue. Maybe Mogg's visit had a ripple effect 😅
Yep it’s crazy how effective lying to people is...
@zumtream finally someone making some sense!
Get Gordon back, he's ALIVE
Funny that South Shields stayed Labour, and after the mess Boris has made of everything from Brexit to Covid, the few places that turned blue in the Red Wall will return back to red.
I think Mogg would actually be a really good PM for the UK to have.
Godzilla52 I dunno, he's quaint and charming but he's pretty backwards. Against gay marriage for instance
Yeah, but I don't think he'd force the party to ban gay marriage. He just said that he thought legalization may have alienated some traditional voters. I don't think that Rees-Mogg would be the kind of guy to pass socially conservative legislation to minimize peoples liberties. For one thing, I think he's smarter than that and for another I don't think its his style.
iWestminster doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.
For South England maybe
Godzilla52 it's a shame he doesn't want the job
Mr Mogg seems like a very well adjusted and kind gentleman. I would very much like to see more of him and his message.
Agree with what he says or not, he's always respectful regardless of who he's talking with. There's an interview on UA-cam of him by Ali G which highlights this very well
If JRM ever fails as a politician he's got great prospects for being a stand up comedian!
Can't imagine him saying "Did you hear the one about the nun cycling down a fuckin cobbled street?"
I'm a small c conservative that lives near Newcastle. The guy that said people around here are "too ingrained to vote anything other than Conservative" is bang on. The thing is, most people around here don't like a lot of what Labour stand for. They're quite socially conservative, patriotic, want lower taxes, and less immigration (all things that the Conservatives more or less stand for). Most people don't know the difference between Socialism & Capitalism, but a lot of people are dependent on the state through public sector employment or benefit dependency, so when the Conservatives want to cut those things (for completely economically sound reasons) people take it personally as an attack on them. Labour's rhetoric is deeply ingrained here; the Tories are seen as evil rich people, and rich people generally are disliked. However, most people themselves want to be rich, and nobody complains about the rich people that run Labour. There is a right wing vote here, which the rise of UKIP in the north has shown.
A lot of people are dependent on the state. Many of them are conservative MP's, supporters or donors.
You think Rees Mogg worked for the wealth and privilege he enjoys daily?
These people as self serving hypocrit scum.
Well UKIP are more right winged but I am very right winged so yeah
why on earth would you want to be right wing?
because socialism has yet to work in the long term
Lolololol Lololol how would you know that?
working class people re too right wing for the labour party but darent voice in public their hatred of labour party policies.
labour needs to realign with the concerns of the working class instead of focusing on identity politics
Jack Hooper some of the concerns of the working class have been manufactured.
354sd speak for yourself you melt
Too uneducated to vote labour you mean.
PATRICK RICHMOND they don't work
My views may not fall in line with his, but I find it virtually impossible to dislike the man.
Felt the same, on the strength of the Jess Phillips film. He actually comes across alright, it pains me to say.
When he opens his mouth, one instinctively flinches, but when one listens to what he actually says, one can't help but warm to him. I like him, and I have been traditionally labour all my life!
How can anyone warm to this person. He lives in the 19th century re work values
He's a villain and you're a prat
The man, the legend: Jacob Rees-Mogg.
How can you say that
Have you ever met him
jason cooper why is he?
XI IX yes because he's a catholic and does not want to force the church to do anything.
Rico Man in this country we don't discriminate against people because of their religious beliefs
If those religious beliefs infringe on the rights of others then they should not be tolerated.
Grew up in South Shields. Hopeless case. Year after year the residents complain about the way the town is going down the toilet, and time after time they elect a Labour council and MP. Cause and effect, but they refuse to see it.
+Jonathan Smith If you really think a Tory MP would be any different, you're mistaken. As the woman in the video said, the place seems to have gone downhill since the major industry was closed in the early 90s. No MP can fix that alone. It needs to be solved by government HQ in London. As far as industry protection goes - and to give a really left wing example - China protected its steelworkers by slashing the price of their exports, so the country made a much smaller profit, or even ran at a loss, but managed to keep ALL the people in all regions employed. Whereas Thatcher et al just closed the mines and industries because it was cheaper in the short term. And now what do we have to show for it? The strength and foresight of Chinese socialist governance has crushed our steel industry today beyond repair. As the final plants close, it will be lost for good. No MP can fix that now, not without serious government intervention, but the Tories would never do that because it involved serious input, serious money and, most importantly, nationalisation of assets and industry, which they hate. But if nothing is nationalised, it's left to the dogs in the free market. That's what we have now a 'free market', where places like South Shields are left to rot because the market has zero interest in that place, and never will, regardless of who the local MP is. This is modern Tory ideology, and is what New Labour trundled along with too. We need real hard left wing, socialist, nation-centric ideologies including nationalisation to protect areas with major exporting industries, such as what South Shields used to have before it was left to decline and die.
I grew up in S Shields in the 70s and I can assure you it was in total decline long before the 90s. Oddly enough many, many parts of the UK that do not cling to the leftist client state ideology are prosperous and wealthy and actually generate wealth for the nation. I wonder why. If you think more hard-left ideology is the solution, you need your head examined.
Jonathan Smith So which places have 'become rightist' and prospered, and how? And what would you do, under your own ideology, to make South Shields prosperous, that every leader and politician seems to have overlooked?
+hateclub A point of order first. Only put words in quotation marks when you are quoting someone. Now, if you want to know which places have prospered, as a rule of thumb divide England up into red & blue constituencies and you will broadly have your answer. The answer to your final question is that *I* would do nothing. This is the leftist's hopeless answer to everything. Politicians can do nothing to generate wealth and jobs, only people can. The people of South Shields need to stop trying to suck the state's teat and generate wealth and business themselves. Typically, though, people would are like this tend to vote blue rather than red.
Thanks for the "point of order". Your red/blue division explanation doesn't help at all. Rather than it being anything to do with economic prosperity, it could be that wealthy people flock together then vote Blue in order to protect their own interests. We all know money makes money. Now I'm not saying that's definitely the case, but you can't just say, "Look at all these blue areas full of rich people", and think that correlates to economic prosperity, specially since it was once the traditionally Red areas that made the nation great, thanks to manufacturing, mining etc. It could be that those who got rich off those sectors then flew the nest to nicer pastures and voted Blue because it protected their interests and nobody else's. You're going to have to tell me what is it that makes a place into a wealth-generating area. So far all I've ever gleaned from this sort of information is that wealthy people live in Blue areas. No mention of how, or where, they get their wealth. Question not answered. Try again.
I was born in South Shields before the war. 1938 actually. In my youth there was work everywhere. From Ship building to Ship repair. There was Robsons Boat builders who built wooden lifeboats. A Reyrolle Electrical Switch Gear had 15,000 employees. 50’s and 60’s Barbour still make coats for royalty! There was 13 coal mines when I was a lad. Bede Trading Estate had many manufacturing factories! I was always a Tory but the Tory Party let us down! Thatcher for one! At one time there were so many boats in the river up to 4 in depth. So many you couldn’t see the water! Tory should hang it’s head in Shame!
There was chance for those people once the world modernised, unfortunately their local government hooked them up to benefits
The world changed it's not the Tories fault what were they to do? BTW my Grandad worked at Reyrolles all of his life...
In 1938, the UK was the 2nd largest economy in the world. I'm not surprised there was that much work available.
The brass neck on this guy. :)
Honestly, it's like we're in Victorian times.
I really like him, and the locals seemed to as well. He comes across as a genuine man, unlike Blair or Cameron, who wanted to be all things to all people. People should just be themselves. The Tories should promote this man.
You are crazy. He is only interested in one person: that is Jacob Rees-Mogg, just like all his ancestors. Don't be fooled by the sophistry and the clothing, or the upper class accent. He's out for himself and himself alone. All politicians are dirty liars. Democracy allows the best orators rather than the best and most qualified minds to take power. That's why you Thomas are unheard of and Rees-Mogg is everywhere like a virus. We can just hope that in the future unscientific democracy is replaced by scientifically educated Meritocracy and when I say science I mean every form of it, not just physics and chemistry or biology. The world cannot afford to have idiots like Rees-Mogg in charge allowing corporations (who buy their services via party donations) to pollute the air, oceans and land, and ultimately our food supplies, and to accumulate 99% of the resources to just 1% of the people. That cannot last. Oil will run out eventually and KAPUT!
Admiralhall2000
I'm sure when the meritocracy is instituted you will go along with all of its policies, even those you strongly disagree with. And because there's no franchise you will be powerless to stop it developing into tyranny.
Joseph Bissett Laughable. We all have to go along with the tyranny of the majority for 4 or 5 years powerless to change it over that time period. Not only that but what does an election actually do? It replaces one tyranny with another for 4 or 5 years, and often reverses the plans of the previous government, like Trump and Climate Change! You believers in democracy really believe you have a say? Political parties are financed largely by corporations. That means oil, gas and banks have the real power. The govt can then overrule local democracy to carry out fracking in areas where scientific studies have suggested geological or environmental problems! What say did the residents have when the 4 to 5 year dictatorship of the corrupt and bribed Party in power allow pipelines to built!? No say.
In a democracy the Corporate party backers give you a choice between one set of under qualified puppets and another! People get the choice between the worst people eg. Trump the perverted moron vs Clinton the elitist in democracies.
Meritocracy is much fairer. It allows only the best qualified and morally checked to rule. (Because like a business every candidate would be back ground checked). Everyone has a chance to take power as long as they can compete. Due to people like you who believe in this false theory of democracy being somehow representative and better than Meritocracy, when AI takes away all the jobs and oil becomes scarce democracies will cease anyway as non meritocratic tyrants take power!
If democracy was good it would be used by corporations to select their leaders. Yet time and again they tend to merit based employment and leadership.
Also consider this: would passengers of a plane be given a vote between 2 candidates, neither of which are qualified or experienced to fly their plane?
And how do you propose a meritocracy is implemented? How do you ensure that the tyranny of the elite is generous to the plight of the poor?
You're a psuedo-intellectual at best, a totalitarian at worst.
gogman25 Well consider this: how does democracy prevent the things you mention? All suffer the tyranny of political parties who are corrupted by the finances they get from oil and fracking companies or banks who have been found to launder drug money globally. Their tyranny lasts the term of their office until they are ousted and replaced with equally bribed and corrupt opposition. Both sides have links with failed outdated ideologies that often lead to perverse decisions.
Meritocracy would work the same way businesses select their leaders: firstly they need to be qualified to PhD level and pass relevant exams set by those employed in the Civil Service and at the best universities. Then they need to prove they have a track record of outstanding success in their business or work life. Only the best would then be eligible for election by the masses. We would then have checks and balances in place via a judicial arm as well as a Scrutiny upper house voted in by PR selected in a similar way to stand for election so no one without ability is allowed into govt. We could also write a constitution. During the election all candidates would be allowed to advertise themselves using a fixed government budget online or TV/radio only to save paper. However other than their official debates on TV and ads no other reporting on them would be allowed. This would make it fairer and more equal as trial by press or media is dysfunctional.
In a meritocracy the constitution would protect the rights of the poor with a long term vision of how to make the economy sustainable in a way that is equitable to all.
Your final comments show a lack of upbringing. See if you can overcome it. I am very disappointed in you. You have such potential.
wow he's old fashioned! The accent and the 1940's music!
Hes clearly gone from eton to oxford then to the 1940s
George Dunbar 1840’s
Not a bad time period to be in ( excluding WW2 )
The accent is his, but I doubt he has a 1940’s music sound track everywhere he goes, only on channel 4! However, that would be ace!! I’d have the theme from Shaft or the opening bars of Voodoo Chile as mine.
i'm a die hard labour supporter but i have to say i love how chill jacob is lol. he's so calm even when being insulted lol
Two little ducks 22, QUACK QUACK
LOOOOOOOL
Oh Jesus! The Mogg calling the bingo! I'm actually dying!😂😂😂
Quack quack
Cameron could learn so much from Rees-Mogg.
3:36 blowing smoke directly in his face then calling Cameron a wanker 😂
Fucking hero
Channel 4's trolling Rees-Mogg SO bad with the background songs 😂
It would be nice for people to be reminded that the Labour government form 1966 to 1970 did an enormous amount of damage to UK manufacturing industries through the industrial reorganisation corporation.
I want his coat.
It's a nice coat, wool and Cashmere. I would say around £300-£400 at the bottom end. In a sale however you can snap one up in summer.
Controversy Owl same ha 🙌 he's cool
6:47 "It's David's den number ten!".
“I thought I was with the young conservatives” I’m genuinely not sure that if that was sarcasm as everyone there was over 50
He's one of the few tories with his finger on the pulse of what is happening in Britain.
Yes...he can give the ordinary working man advice on how to best manage their multi-million hedge funds just like him! Salt of the earth...
If he knew what the poor were going through he wouldn't be a Tory.
Oli Cansdale who would he represent ? Labour? Do me a favour lool
finger on the pulse? hes a walking antique, probably has to be told by nanny every morning that he can't ask for government funding for fucking witch burnings and longbows, finger on the pulse finger more like thumb in his own 16th century gob
David Camerons a .....
well thats a blunt answer
LOL
Bet it would be a different story if he went there now! I dare him 😁
Sounds like that dog was an excellent judge of character 🤣
hes such an old school aristocrat, i love him. He's like something out of a TV show.
Yeah yes prime minister comes to mind. 🤭
It's called a caricature.
@@InternetMameluq ive never heard that word once in my life can you explain
@@BLUEGENE13 It's the French word for Character. In English, it means they're a cartoon character, usually of a real person.
It also can mean that a satirical portrait.
Labour are more anti-poor than Tories, by giving lots of money to people who don't have a job you are encouraging then not to work increasing taxes for the poor who are working.
Not to mention there commitment to the European Union is driving down wages for the working class
Jacob is anti Eu
Spoken like a true level 1 thinking 15 year old.
Come on, they are both out to fuck the working class. But the tories going after the most vulnerable of society like disabled, poor and unemployed is a disgrace.
To encourage people to work you treat workers better and pay them money to live on, which is why we should vote for the left/labour.
The moaning of life featuring Karl Pilkington and Jacob-Reas Mogg
Send him to Liverpool. They'll love him, bring a stretcher LOL
👏👏 send him round mine, I have a few choice words and a very good a &e so long as he does mind waiting 12 hours
he's a courageous and nice bloke, but he does look like a Viz character of a Tory MP. However I don't go by appearances, I judge people by what they do.
I like him because he's not frightened of talking to those who are vehemently opposed to the Conservative Party. He takes everything on the chin and isn't defensive or argumentative with the general public. He's a good listener and doesn't like many MP's 'wait to speak' without taking on board what someone is saying to him.
You may not agree with his politics or views but he carries himself well and always comes across as a gentlemen.
A good listener? Look what he said to the chavs...
This is merely a day out for him, love how he tries to find socialists and ends up with UKIP voters....
“She’s a Tory and that’s worse than aids” is probably the best thing I’ve heard today.
@Kordell swoffer tories
Ever Since I saw the Ali G interview I love JRM.
“I thought is was with the young...”
I love and absolutely love watching clips with JRM.
Labour standing for working people? Are you having a laugh?
YOU ARE
For working people in the public sector. Not the private.
Your right...New militant labour not interested in the working class at all.
they stand for not witless racist pensioners who prefer better pay and rights and dont really want to eat low standard food full of antibiotics from trump, this is why working in spain for 70 quid an hour contracting till the pensioners die is the best bet
you wont read that in your super anti-working class soarway sun
Brilliant the way he still engages with people he disagrees with. I saw a video the other day of Gordon Brown doing a speech, being heckled. The heckler was violently thrown out by Labour party officials.
He’s very sharp it’s brilliant.
None of them actually know why they hate parliament leaders, they just have issues I need to blame someone with a title.
They hate them bcos they've been neglected by any political parties since the 1970s
The issue is you could bet your life that hatlessmuffin has grew up more privileged than the average person
Sadly this is the case for a lot of people in this country. Just following the crowd and they don't know why.
Because they’re self serving elitist parasites
They just throw in a few buzzwords from the front page of the Sun
As someone who has lived in South Shields since birth, I would say that Labour are doing absolutely nothing to help the area - they know that they have a safe seat, so they don't need to try.
Would you rather suffer under the Tories? You can be sure they'll do even less!
Apart from Newsnight, I feel that Channel 4 are much better at covering politics than the BBC.
Will he finally lose his seat this coming election?
Go on mog, appealing to the youth through the energetic activity that is bingo
Labour sadly isn't about the working class any more
Rico Man and the Tories are??
No one is anymore
@@Worminthetrenches @ chuck norris UKIP is.
John Smith next joke, UKIP are in pieces and have only ever cared about scapegoating immigrants
Potentially the bravest man in Britain......and he's pulled of a bleeding miracle.
If he's not Prime Minister within two years...i'll eat his suit!!!!!!
He will never be Prime Minister. He has popularity but not in that way. He's far too autocratic and eccentric to be a leader, not to mention his very Euroskeptic and Thatcherite leanings.. The Conservatives are a deeply divided party and it takes a tactful leader to bring that lot together. I think May has been lucky to manage it over Brexit, given the deep divisions over EU.
SONIC FOXX MUSIC...(D.N.A... Developing New Artists) Fucking hell, he's on his way. Have you seen the polls for leader of the Conservatives ? Above Boris and Theresa
SONIC FOXX MUSIC so you going to put his “suit where your mouth is?”
Boris is looking more likely, sadly.
I agree with you, hope
He really is a man of the people, isn't he?
@@evan2173 Yes, he is.....He represents an ever-increasing part of the electorate
Yeah I heard he applied for a council house in Shields, he declined the opulent 3 storey house on the Woodbine, no Nannys room.
This was 8 yrs ago and people were going hungry then according to a man there..
good on him wouldn't get labour London mps anywhere near there
2:54 Labour haven't been for the poor working class man for decades...
So you expect us to vote Labour after they way they destroyed the country the last time they were in power?
Labour are about giving stuff away for free to people who don't deserve it. Conservatives keep taxes low for the poorest, allowing them (us) to keep more of our income.
Did you read that in the sun or in the daily mail
@@maccagrabme they didn't.
Ever*. They just don't hate working people as much as the Torys.
Mogg is so cute! Love how he can get on with anyone and doesn't need to change himself.
like him a lot, He is nice polite and intelligent, We could do with a LOT more like him
I really like Jacob-Rees Mogg, and I respect anyone who willingly walks into a situation where they know they'll be unpopular. The only thing I didn't like was him walking down the street after those women. Seemed a bit charity fundraiser.
Local Tory - "We're blamed for closing the mines and we're blamed for closing the heavy industry, the ship-yards."
I wonder why that is?
GraceyGrumble, this mentally you are expressing is one of the most ignorant things people say in the UK. (Im not sure if im pigeon holing you or not, apologies if I am)
Lets consider how a government could "close down" a service. Consider this, people need energy (coal) and well maintained ships, and they are willing to pay for it. SO what could the government possibly do to disturb these valuable services?
Lets consider how a government may impact on an industry. They could negatively effect the company by applying regulations, taxes and tariffs on the trade which could turn a profitable company into a non-profitable one. Which parties rhetoric does this most apply top? Labour.
The other way a government could be perceived as "closing down" an industry, is the discontinuation of subsidies. If a company is in need of subsidies the reason is that it is unprofitable. This company sucks up capital from other profitable companies via tax, then wastes the capital on unprofitable business. So are you "closing down" an industry if you discontinue subsidies or are you letting it die? Now, why the hell cant a coal company or shipping yard be profitable in the UK? Unions. Who gives unions special rights? Labour.
You see the hypocrisy? Its pretty disguising right? Especially when you consider how many people were happy when Thatcher died.
Ryukey The problem is that at the time, other countries were helping to sustain industries , especially ship-building by tax relief and government subsidies. This was because they understood 'social cost'. The Conservative government never took into account the social cost.
The coal mines shut, the iron and steel industry shortly after and then ship-building. It was like a pack of dominoes. The heart of the north-east of England was ripped out. Mass unemployment followed and the government's advice was to 'get on your bike'. We were all 'moaning minnies'.
The damage that Margaret Thatcher's obsessive monetarist policies did to this region was heart-breaking to live through. Acolytes of Milton Friedman still carry the torch today. Yes, we had to move away from heavy industry; we were finding it increasingly difficult to be profitable in a changing world economy. In the long-term it was unsustainable.
So, what was government policy? If Thatcher was genuine about creating an enterprising economy where people from across the UK could take responsibility for themselves, she could have devolved greater power and recognised the capacity for self-help, mutual support and endeavour already within communities (ironically often around industries and unions). There could have been a gradual transition. But no, between 1979 and 1987 unemployment sky rocketed. Where did the new service industries spring up? Answer - The south.
Her economic legacy is a north-south divide which is now ingrained in the DNA of our national economic and political structures; an economy dependent on the financial sector and service industries, dominated by London and the south east; an economy with its industrial and manufacturing base across the north devastated; a highly centralised state driven from Westminster with denuded and comparatively impotent local governance; a legacy of benefit dependency and low skills clustered in former industrial areas where private enterprise still struggles to flourish.
Hypocrisy? Well, you can't accuse Margaret Thatcher of that, that's for sure. She was a callous, vindictive bitch. She wanted to destroy 'The enemy within' and boy did she do it. In so doing she destroyed the identity and dignity of the people of the north east. Disgusting right?
The problem with the mining towns is that they were all either miners in their own bubble or their housewives in their own bubble. Yes they need something to replace that job but is it the government's job to do this? Are they not capable of something else?
It sounds to me that they were poorly developed even when they were in their prime. Too reliant on one thing and completely unadaptable. All the eggs in one basket. If we ignore Thatcher and whatever unspecific actions she should've taken what should've happened prior to these industry 'closures' what should've been done to prevent the eggs in one basket?
Also, the centralised wealth of London, would that wealth exist if it wasn't in a financial centre? Will that wealth be created if it was spread around the country?
It's also a bit sad that it would take one Conservative government with some investment to completely transform the portrayed view of them in areas like South Shields.
***** I've already explained what should have happened. Did you read it? Or, did you not like the answers?
***** Yeah, but so are the vast majority of British people. They think that everyone who is a socialist is poor and voting Labour as a 'protest vote'.
They're so thick that they think if they've got a few quid in their pocket, they should start voting Tory.
Then there's the knackers who are swinging to UKIP. They're the right wing of the Tory party but, there are so many bell-ends in the country they actually think they're a viable alternative.
It would be hilarious if it were not so tragic!
That woman who said there’s be a civil war and riots was 100% correct seeing as she predicted the reaction to BREXIT
Or absolutely wrong
Were have we had riots and a civil war over Brexit, were not happy about it sure but as for the other 2 things, erm I must have been asleep when all that kicked off.
I'm from South Shields... I'm so embarrassed. Smack rat central on this video.
Used to be such a nice place when I was a kid