How Disney Forgot About The Jedi
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2020
- Why does no-one remember the Jedi in Star Wars anymore?
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Ever since Disney took over Star Wars from George Lucas the Jedi have gone missing. Everyone seems to have forgotten not only Luke Skywalker but all of the Jedi. How did this happen? Do Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm not like the Jedi? I think the reason is pretty simple. Let’s try and bring the Jedi back!
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It’s understandable that people don’t believe or know of the Jedi, even if it has been 53 years. The galaxy has trillions of people in it. There were only a couple thousand Jedi in their prime. It’s like me trying to preach to you of a religion or spiritual lifestyle like “chi”. Even Han Solo didn’t believe in it and he was alive when the Jedi were in the thousands. It’s easy to think they were a myth created by the republic.
Imagine if China invaded the US and the rest of the world and they were talking about how they were able to keep the peace using a couple dozen super commandos with mind control. You’d tell them to fuck off with their nonsense.
@@bonjanglevash Except that Han knew they existed even if he didn't believe in their prowess. Also, there's no way Mandalorians wouldn't know about the Jedi. The only way for them to not know would be if they lost all knowledge of their own culture and history and that all the people who knew died (and in this case that would need to be ALL Mandalorians due to how close this point is to the Clone War).
Also, even though most people never got to see a Jedi in their entire lives, most people still knew about the Jedi. They were either famous or infamous depending on the place.
The Jedi being a thing was common knowledge. Common knowledge doesn't disappear out of nowhere.
@@sancturillore except the great purge happened couple years earlier and they did lose mostly all of they're culture
Me wanting to learn the moonwalk: Is it possible to learn this power?
Michael Jackson: Not from a Presley...
Ask Kylo Ren, he can moonwalk pretty smoothly.
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Holy shit I haven't laughed so hard in a while.
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Lol! Love this! 🤣
Mando not knowing about the jedi makes sense. He was part of a cult, he literally didn't even know that regular mandalorians can take off their helmets
Yeah that makes sense. I also figured that since the Republic didn't have much influence in the outer rim that the Jedi wouldn't be known there or just something that was rumoured
yeah but the central figure of that relgion was mandalore the great...who was made great in the war's against the jedi....
@@MichaelGallagher97 mandalore the great is more famous in conquering half of the known galaxy during the old mandalorian wars
wrong use of the word literally
@@ArtofLunatik don't care didn't ask
I hate the sequels with all my heart. They are an insult to the legacy of George Lucas.
But there is one thing I don't agree with regarding the arguments made in this video. The Jedi weren't as present as one might think, during the era of the republic. Many civilians of the republic have never even met a Jedi in their lifetime. The only real public exposure they had with the Jedi took place during the clone wars, where they rose to prominence and even that was more hearsay than anything else.
I agree
except they were constantly on the news in coruscant, and the jedi had been written into common literature after the jedi vs sith war thousands of yeas before.
@@stuckingachahell9222 most systems are not well connected with corussant and most people in star wars live in poor condition. Look at the people at Tatooine look at the people in Yavin. Poorness, slavery are all verry present in star wars even most of the people in corussant lived in slums. 90+% of the planets are shitholes and their are trillion of sentient lifeforms around the galaxy. For example everyone knows Tom Brady here hes in the news and constantly winning. I dont think many people in 3. World countrys know about him.
@@BaxsStudios Exactly, the outer rim had little contact with the Republic or Empire so it makes sense they didn’t know
@@TristanRow except the fact that everyone on Tatooine already knew that the Jedi existed. Where is the logic? The people from the republic, ie Qui gon jin, didn't even know that tatooine existed, but the people on Tatooine knew that Jedi existed.
Han Solo thought the Force to be an old-timey hokey religion. He was from a Core world with it's own Jedi enclave. He also was eight when the Jedi Purge began. Lucas clearly intended for the Jedi to be minorly known and largely obscure past RotS.
Pretty sure the Empire forbade any mention of jedi or the force just like any respectable dictatorship would do to make sure no one gets any funny ideas.
In which of the first six movies is that information relayed? I think I may have missed it.
I mean, how much do you remember from when you were 8? He seems to know what a Jedi is supposed to be, but doubts they are actually powerful space wizards who can block blasters with a 'laser sword' and change the minds of people/throw objects with telekinesis. Makes sense to me, he never saw a Jedi for real, aside from maybe Imperial propaganda claiming they were evil and full of crap.
It is actaully quite realistic. For example, let's take WW2. USSR played most significant role in WW2, and was the one who letteraly ended it and the US joined the conflict when Soviet forces were already capable of destroying Nazi Germany without the US support. It could have taken little more time but eventually it would have happened. However, due to the American anti-soviet propaganda launched during the Cold War Americans mostly don't even know that.
@@vr9591 People don't like to acknowledge they all live in their own Plato's cave; nor how easy it is to shape the view of a young person if you control the education system. 100% the Empire likely suppressed any positive education about the Jedi. And anyone stupid enough to make a fuss of 'this is not how the Jedi were' would likely be dragged off and dealt with.
And that's before you even factor in stuff like force mind tricks, anyone making a big fuss? "There were no Jedi, they never existed." Boom, problem solved.
I'd pay to see Jedi Elvis vs. Sith MJ...
Darth Thrilla formerly known as Mike Moonwalker
no that's ignorant.
The Jackoside of the Force.
@@AerysTMD we have to keep him away from the younglings.
@@julihan91 What about yer mum
I could understand Rey being ignorant of the Jedi bc of her upbringing, but then later she suddenly knows how to use the Jedi mind trick...
It was explained when Kylo Ren went into her mind, the force awakened in her. It was dumb though.
i thought her being a palpatine was the reason for that. its a bad reason either way
@Six Paths Naruto Only in the first one?
@@TheGrizzlo503 that still doesn't work
. Just because she is a palpatine doesn't explain how she knew skills that took masters a long time to get correct... Disney treated force abilities like ppl in the matrix where just thinking about something had it immediately downloaded into the brain..
@@claudewinters2091 yeah but how Anakin was the only one who used auto pilot in episode 1 space battle but still survived battle?
"Thousands of Elvis Presleys fighting across the universe against the evil Michael Jacksons"
-Now this is something I'd pay to see xD
We must make a petition for it
You will it's been announced on paramount + summer 2024
When the Armorer mentions sorcerers from eons past fighting Mandalore the Great she’s talking about battles that happened more then 3000 years before the events of the show
At least 3300 years, maybe more; and Mandalore has basically been fractured ever since with groups like the Death Watch and Din's adoptive cult all vying for power. Who knows what they taught him, or what they are aware of. tHey might have been hiding under a rock in the unknown regions for millennia since Mandalore got wrecked; only to pop back to the surface after the Jedi were wiped out.
More like 3,900 because those were the Wars Revan fought in
@@m.c.martin revan and all of kotor isnt canon
@@oldspicewhistle8191 revan and darth nihilus were suppose to make an appearance in rise of skywalker and there's a remake coming up so they're canon just not referenced all that much
@@liamlinson7563 to be fair, shit aint canon till its canon. Atm he is noncanon and became and action game character now
"The Force is what give him his powers. To wield it takes a great deal of training"
Rey: Nope
Rey: actually i can just download ben solo's years of training and instantly become better than him at all of it because FoRcE DiAd
Honestly ray shud have cut off a limb or even ended up killing her self with the way she just swing the lightsaber around during her "training", seriously go and whatch that shit is so stupid - ah ha done with training with my lightsaber for today and ever, time to do a twirl with the damm thing still on right next to my face- what can go wrong?
It’s dem medochlorians
@@kaidenhall2718 Anakin was created by midichlorioans, trained for 10 years and lost to Dooku.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I know michdoclorians dont mean much
In the outer rim even during the clone wars they thought that the jedi were just a legend and nothing more
The comics give so much depth on what you just said
It’s true. Even Watto doesn’t actually believe in the Jedi in TPM. He calls Qui-Gon a Jedi sarcastically. It’s just a myth to him. It’s like how you can ask someone if they’re psychic, even though you don’t actually believe that to be the case.
@@JoshuaWillis89 I think they knew of the Jedis, they just thought they were like frauds like we think of some TV psychic.
@@Acujeremy Isn't that what joshua was saying? That was specifically why he mentioned the psychic example, is it not?
@@nicholaskinkaid Maybe it is what he was saying, but I think he was saying it was just some fiction story. I am saying they did know Jedis were real, just didn't believe that their beliefs were real, not that they never existed.
I think Robot Head forgot about how the Empire literally tried to make the Jedi forgettable and look evil.
yea they effectly gaslit the entire galaxy into thinking jedi didnt exist, plus they were already pretty much myth in alot of the more outter rim places
Yea but with the emergence of Luke as a Jedi and many people in the core worlds knew the Jedi. Like the outer rim makes sense but it’s like everyone we meet doesn’t know about Jedi
yes. the empire's propaganda campaign made it so you aren't allowed to talk about them, so maybe they pretended they didn't know for fear of punishment.
@@maxheadroom4659 I mean many people hated the Jedi anyways so they honestly didn’t care
No, they literally wiped jedi from the records
I really like your content, but I have to nit pick one thing that you seem to not understand. That scene from the mandalorian where the smith is talking about a war from eons past, is legit from eon past. Like old republic era, thousands of years before the prequels. Not just the 30+ years from the prequels to the OT.
Mando was raised in a cult, ever talk to a religious homeschool kid for 2 minutes??? They’ve never heard of Pokémon.
This! Its not nearly as far fetched as this video would make it seem!
@@pthomas923 absolute 10/10 analogy hahaha
I went to a Christian school for middle school and even I heard (and played) Pokemon.
@@RezaQin haha no offense intended LOL I was actually homeschooled for a while. But some of the kids I met from homeschool groups were ridiculously sheltered. I can only imagine what that would be like taken to an extreme. Like Amish in outer space, Or LDS on Tattooien
@Denise Miller they let you play with the devils little pocket demons? ;)
I think your oversimplification of "Jedi existed recently, so everyone must believe in the Jedi" is a bit unfair. To quote Han Solo in Star Wars "I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense."... This is how the average person in the time of the OT thought of the force and Jedi, so no wonder 10 to 30 years removed from that people are a bit confused. Also, in a galaxy of Millions of inhabited planets with each having potentially billions of residents compared to the prequels 10,000 Jedi and the original trilogies handful, I'm not surprised not everyone believes or even knows about the Jedi.
Yeah the jedi have literally always been treated this way but you know DiSnEy iS BaD.
Precisely, im a little disappointed I had to scroll this far down to find someone with sense
Thank you for saying this. People get so blinded by the fact that they hate the sequels that they forget that a lot of aspects of the sequels flow directly from the OT like Han's like in a New Hope. I get people don't like the sequels for many reasons but this is just nitpicking that gets rendered irrelevant when you look at the saga as a whole.
Yeah, I don't think Disney's writing is good either, but its obvious that this kind of viewpoint of the Jedi has always been around, really, this kind of confusion and "plot hole" is better attributed to the prequels representation of the Jedi and their power than anything else.
We also see that, among the officers of the Empire, while Vader was a powerful figure, people didn't think much of his "antiquated religion". So yeah, it seems to have been kind of obscure at this point. And presumably, the Empire would have suppressed information about them. Think "Star Twitter" or "Spacebook".
Jedi were a myth to most commoners, even when Jedi were at their peak it was hard for most random farmers to believe that there are folks who can do anything with the Force
not if they were alive during the clone wars, new hope only takes place 22 years after rots
@@liamlinson7563 The clone wars weren't happening on every corner of every planet. There are places a lot more relevant to a war than others which are largely unaffected by it.
Also, Empire propaganda
@@Hobby_Technology ww2 wasnt happening in every and yet a lot of people still remember it, also propaganda doesnt make you forget things especially a galaxy wide conflict like the clone wars
Did ya'll even watch Episode 1? Where in outer rim shithole like Tatooine, everyone and their mother knew the Jedi? Where did this stupid take come from?
@@liamlinson7563 Sure, so people heard about these wars that were happening. Maybe they heard that the generals leading the clone troopers were Jedi, and had magical powers, but that is a hard thing to believe unless you witness it for yourself. Remember just how huge the galactic population is, and how few Jedi there were. Was it around 1 in 100 million people that were a Jedi? Some entire species seemed to have no or just a very small number of Jedi. And for most of the time Jedi are quite inconspicuous. They dress in simple cloaks. They use their powers subtly so as not to draw attention. Even in battle, besides deflecting blaster bolts with their lightsabers, they mostly would have been commanding the armies, not using their more ostentatious powers, and the people around them to witness it were clone troopers and droids. It may well be common knowledge that the Jedi existed, but it's reasonable for Han Solo and others to be hugely skeptical of the truth, and believe they were religious nutters. There were probably many different religions in the Star Wars universe, almost all of them at odds with reality and every other religion. You might hear from people who did witness a Jedi in person every other year, if you kept your ear to the ground, but it would still just be hearsay and the details easily doubted. Think about when Obi Wan and Anakin visited Naboo the first time. Lots of rumours probably spread around Naboo about who the people visiting were, but they really were visiting the upper echelons, and their Jedi abilities were only demonstrated in close quarters with enemies.
I wish I could travel to an alternate universe where Disney actually did the sequel trilogy properly. With George and Marcia Lucas at the helm.
Now I would love to see Elvis vs Michael Jackson in a lightsaber duel. Thanks Robot Head 🤣
What about the droid attack on the Wookies?
Go and watch their rap battle at Epic Rapbattle in History!
Imagine Darth Maul singing Cha mone, he he.. Shamone.. 🤣😂😅🤣 Elvis only had 3 dance moves. MJ had at least 100 moves. Elvis would be a padawan, a beginner. MJ would be stronger than Darth Maul.
Don't forget, there isn't one duel, there are thousands everywhere. I don't wanna see a duel, I
wanna see a war
Don’t forget 10’000 of them
“Don’t be afraid of who you are.” Proceeds to take the Skywalker name.
It is a classical SJW trick. They turn names into titles so they can insert just about anyone and give them that title.
Rey is Annakin’s Clone. 🤣🤣🤣
Lil identity theft never hurt nobody
She’s no Skywalker. Just a Skywanker.
@@amrisyafari3946 if she was a deformed failed experiment
I'm pretty sure that the scene when Palpatine said the remaining jedi would be hunted down it was also recorded and shown across the galaxy so Palpatine could gain support for the empire
Yes
Kinda throws Disney under the bus.
I like that.
Well I didn't have a problem with Mando not knowing as here's my head canon: Since Jedi haven't been relevant for a while, not everyone is talking about them, maybe because it's "bad Karma" and draws in the empire. Mando being taken in by the "Mandalorian fanatics" as a child may also have contributed to him not knowing. Since the Mandalorian Forgemaster knew about them and initially called them sorcerers, I think it was her way of breaking it to Din. Her explanation of the old tale doesn't mean the Jedi haven't been around for long, it's more focused on the tale of Mandalore and how old that is and the ancient conflict between the Mandalorians and the Jedi. People who aren't Jedi or Sith (or force sensitive) don't understand or really believe in the force, hence why Han thinks its tricks rather than an actual thing, even though his connection to the Clone Wars should be quite substantial as well.
My head canon gives me this explanation: Even though Jedi were common and all around the universe because of the clone wars, it was still like seeing a unicorn, something you'd tell your friends about. During the war people were more focused on surviving than seeing Jedis use the force, so when on rare occasions there were Jedi on your planet, there usually was a reason, which in turn prevented you from watching the Jedi do his/her work and it'd be even less likely you'd see them actively use the force.
In essence it'd be rare to see a Jedi and even more rare to see them use the force even during the Clone Wars, Din was sheltered and the Empire likely suppressed any discussions of Jedi, due to the last Jedi being hunted by Vader
The Deathwatch were literally jedi hunters LMAO.
“Thousands of Elvis Presley’s fighting the evil Micheal Jackson’s” 😂😂😂
The Hunkahunkas vs. the Shamoes.
I stopped the video because I was literally laughing out loud.
Huh! Huh! Chum-On!
I want to see that xd
I would pay to see elvis vs Jackson
I’d so watch something like that
Din not knowing about Jedi kinda makes sense because of his sheltered life and never got involved in the wars
FINNALY SOME BODY WHO GETS IT
@@koxz. yeah
My name is din too lol
Uncomfortable truth: Mandalorian isn't that good of a show.
@@hurin1932 I guess we are so starved for new good content thanks to shitsney so much that we’d take anything that is not sequels quality and call it good.
Nobody knew about Jedi because the empire was hiding everything related with them, in the comics it was made pretty clear (and yes most of them are canon)
The problem is this guy just only watches the live action stuff. I'm pretty sure he didn't even know who Ahsoka was before he saw the Mandalorian
@@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge exactly. Dude is speaking out of pure ignorance
@@sundrelstriker7513 Yes bro I never heard a mention of the Clone Wars or Rebels from him
@@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge he probably never watched. He never read any comics either. All people had of jedi were tales and myths. People even reported people like they did in the witch trials to gain favor with the empire. Plus Palpatine destroyed the temple on coruscant
@@sundrelstriker7513 Also in some high republic comic some random alien saw 1 and thought she was doing magic, that alien didn't even know what the force was.
Mando was part of a secret/hidden cult in the outer rim (Jedi are considered mythical to a lot of outer rim inhabitants), it makes complete sense why he wouldn't have dealt with jedi before. Also I can totally see their cult leader kept the history of the Mandalorian wars and the jedi themselves a secret from the rest of her clan, to prevent any vendettas or "believers in the old way" to take control. Pre Vizsla was a perfect example of how destructive Mandalorians can be to their own kind.
The cult which follows the way of ancient Jedi killers, lol. Also he was saved in the Clone Wars, lead by Jedi.
LOL. The Death Watch directly interacted with Jedi multiple times during the height of the Republic and the Jedi? What are you talking about? Why speak when you clearly don't know what you're on about?
@@thanasisv190 it’s also fiction, I hope you don’t really care this much.
Also I don’t think you understand the point I was trying to make.
Yes, good example of just how mythical the jedi are to people in outer rim is PM Anakin. Even then, the jedi are surrounded by cloud of mystery. No wonder that after 20 years of Empire and another 30 years of Jedi being very scarce and almost extinct many folks don't know about them. Or don't care enough to know about them.
But it still begs the question how the fuck did Rey know about how fast Millenium Falcon is, but not about Jedi.
@@radioactiveassassin5218 Exactly. Go to Saudi Arabia and ask them if they’ve heard of Mormons.
That’s not the best comparison but I think you’ll get the point.
And with Rey well I guess that’s just one of the perks of living in an engine lol
I think the “cultist” origin of Mando is the only reason I’m alright with him not knowing the full truth. But I hope later episodes of the Mandalorian will include more Jedi history.
Probably yeah and there's not much unbelievable about it. Most people in the galaxy have no clue about the differences between Jedi and Sith, so I wouldn't wonder if their lack of knowledge regarding the Jedi is a thing at the same time.
Looks like it might with Baby Yoda and mando heading to the planet the force and Je-di order were founded
i mean; mandalore, ahsoka, tython. yup
@@buek14 and the fact the show takes place on the outer rim, not core or inner rim
All robot does is bitch. There are galaxies upon galaxies in the Star Wars universe, lord forbid a mandalorian not know who the Jedi are lmao.
Well Yoda is a very rare species, and Mando was in a very strict hidden religion. So this show has a excuse, unlike the sequel trilogy. And when she said Eons past, she meant the fact Mandalorians and Jedi haven't fought directly for eons, but we're enemies of the Mandalorians.
Aye, you can even see this when he meets other Mandalorians who isn't super religious. Bo-fucking-Katan and he didn't know who she was. That tells you that his sect of mando's is more of a cult that ignore most of their own history.
They're probably the offset survivors of Mauls mando's that the other mando's fought against.
I agree except for one thing. His parents were killed by the separatist army so I find it very hard to believe he didn't hear about the jedi where he lived during his upbringing before his parents were killed.
And not just Mando, it seems like everyone in the Mandalorian has heard of Mandalorians through stories but the same doesn't apply for the Jedi. I still like the show but something to think about.
Yea and wouldnt the mandalorains who trained him teach them their history?
Does no one converse in disney star wars outside of scenes they are in or what?
You would think they had some kind of education or at the very least they have traditions of teaching the younger generations mechnical skills and basic galactic history.
It is pretty much like not knowing the navy seals were in viet nam, a person new to that knowledge wouldnt question if the seals were real, they would just be unfamiliar with what exactly they do.
The collective unconcious allows us to cultivate information from our surroundings, like kids are aware of the miltary, even if they dont exactly know what that kind of work entails. If they saw it, or were told about it, they wouldnt be unsure of its existence, they may question the force like we question religion, but they would be aware of its existence.
The disney universe, is way to inconsistent, and doesnt really get the universe as a whole, they are starting to it seems because it seems more people are actually getting into the old stuff, like training, thank the force, etc but they still have a massive misunderstanding of the character dynamics and why people loved SW so much.
For me, it was the lead characters.
@@mtgleam8723 well he was just a boy when the attack happened as was super traumatised to the point that he keeps reliving it. Only thing he remembers is death watch saving him, so anything he heard about the jedi would probably be forgotten as a boy.
Also in the show the Mandalorian there are a lot of people that know about the force or talk about it/ the sayings. May the force be with you, thank the force ect ect. So it isn't hard to see other people knowing about the jedi and Mandalorians because they aren't truly cut off from the rest of the galaxy.
Remember, the mando is in a cult, he doesn't even know his own people's true history which speaks a lot. He doesn't know about the dark saber which is a huge part of their culture. Doesn't know Bo-Katan who was literally the sister of the leader of Mandalore. Doesn't understand that not all Mandalorians have the same reverence of not removing their helmet.
If Din is part of the cultish offshoot of death watch then we can see where his history came from. It came from them ignoring the force, ignoring the pacsfis part after their defeat of the jedi. It comes from trying to overthrow Mandalore and having their own people tear in two. He literally knows none of this because his cult doesn't teach him this and keeps to themselves underground, only one of them being allowed up on the surface at a time.
Around this timeline Mandalore would be rebuilding after they fought against the Empire, which his cult has no part of. He is very isolated of the known galaxy and keeps to the outer rim, which news travels much slower.
Already thought about it and it really seems it is only Din and his cult of mando's that are really in the dark. Everyone else knows what a jedi and Mandalorians are
I love how obi wan just gives away one of most dangerous weapons in hand for a child with no warning advice.
He’s forgetting that even in Star Wars A New Hope no one knew about the Jedi. That was only around twenty years after order 66 started. So it would seem like ages ago 53 years from the start of order 66. Heck, people barely new about the force in New Hope. So this video doesn’t really make sense.
Glad to see someone else understands that this guy is a troll who has gone a bit too far. Doesn't seem he actually understands Star Wars, but he sure gained a following by criticizing it since Disney took over. I don't like most of Disney's stuff, but at least I can see where this guy totally misses what's obvious.
@@logicaldude3611 But that makes sense, as the empire did everything they could to supress the jedi.
@@logicaldude3611 name checks out
What doesn't make sense is George Lucas's writing. It's like he forgot that the Prequels were supposed to actually connect to the OT, and just rammed in a few scenes to tie things together in the last 5 minutes of ROTS.
@@Pneumanon That's what the clone wars show was for pretty sure, you can only cram so much in 3 movies.
Jedi Elvis Presley vs Sith Micheal Jackson is something I didn’t knew I needed until now
Michael: Join the dark side, SHAMONE!!!! HEEEEHEEE!!
@@Zenapprentice Michael: If you will not turn, maybe your daughter will! WOOOOOOOH!
Sith MJ likes his apprentices really young.
Can't wait for "Attack of the Beatles".
@Ryaquaza 1 - I feel you.
Well, the mandalorian wars against the Jedi were thousands of years ago.
Yeah but remember Darth maul ruled mandalore? It is obvious people lived under his rule know that he is a force wielder don't they? Mando cult was created after siege of mandalore?🤔(not sure when).
@@monishvj5172 no, they didn’t know about him. Remember, he used Almec as a puppet ruler, since ruling directly would bring the attention of the Jedi Council.
Tryhard Nub yes In son of dathomir. The council knew maul was head of the mandalorians but mandalore had political amnesty from the clone wars. Which no invasion could take place on mandalore until the 3rd year of the war.
@@monishvj5172 The Cult in the Mandalorian is just the remnants of Death Watch that continued to serve under Maul and then eventually continued within small numbers after Bo-Katan had become Mandalore and before the Purge (As seen in the Mandalorian). It's entirely possible that only the people who either fought Maul (Nite-Owls) or were in Death Watch would ever know that it was him.
Stfu
Maybe if Disney had used the Legends Universe instead throwing it to the side, they would have learned something about continuity in Star Wars.
They ALMOST did
Lucasfilm wanna tease the Yuuzhan Vong on the Clone Wars series before Disney's takeover stop it all.
Except that was never their intention.
@@markusfreund6961 KK and her woke cultists are all about revisionist herstory.
Lets not forget that most people had no idea of who luke was at the time of the rebelion. The rebel allience basicly said that a random farm boy blew up the death star, in order to make others believe that they could do something simular.
Palpatine also basicly wiped the jedi out of the history books after formning the empire.
The sequels are garbage. But when she said “eons ago” the mandolorian wars were thousands of years earlier
Yeah the guy who made this video fails to realize that the Jedi Order fell and Anakin/The Emperor/The Empire spent a couple decades trying to completely erase the Jedi Order's existence from the galaxy, not to mention, the Jedi didn't even have a foothold as large as he seems to think, nor were they universally accepted even where they did have one. Go back to KotOR and you find out they were vilified for eons because of the Jedi Civil War. He also doesn't seem to understand that Gisney made the Expanded Universe non-canon, so who really knows what kind of canon they're building around these days. Jon Favreau is saving Star Wars single-handedly with the Mandalorian as it stands. A foundling Mandalorian would of course have never had dealing with any Jedi - He's at most in his early to mid-30's and more likely in his late 20's - early 30's. The Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire, after Anakin's atonement and before Luke's new Jedi Order. He would never have even come close to interacting with a Jedi since there's only a handful of them left, and Anakin, Yoda and Obi-Wan all died too so there's basically Ahsoka Tano and Luke at this point with a few stragglers here and there but nowhere to be found.
@@DynamicThreads You create a strawman to then beat it to the ground. Great job. The only thing he used were movies which establish jedi as a guardians of peace. There are people that were alive during the fall of the jedi ffs. Disney seems to totally forget about that.
Also, the Mandolorian is such a mess of a writing it amazes me just how loved this series is becoming.
@@mat199622 It's been a minimum of 36 years between Episode III and the start of Mandalorian. Anakin killed almost every Jedi or force sensitive being he encountered. In Episode IV, there is literally a scene where an Empire commander says Darth Vader's "Sad devotion to that ancient religion" in reference to "The Force" hasn't helped him conjure up the stolen plans for the Death Star... It's quite possibly the most famous scene in Star Wars history. "I find your lack of faith disturbing" ring a bell? It's only been 2 decades between Episode III and A New Hope... And already, in those 20 years, the "Force" has become a myth and Jedi have become a fairy tale. You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about in all honesty.
@Dynamic threads
Oh fvckoff with this “all the Jedi died” bs. You seem to want storylines to follow the OT films 100% when it can’t. The prequels and every other media, they had to expand BEYOND the OT films. There’s no way every single one of these “space wizards” would have died. It’s long been canon there were survivors or those that went in hiding. Also it’s a universally large galaxy. So that nonsense of no Jedi can piss off.
Lastly, The Mandalorian isn’t Disney’s saving grace. It’s honestly not even all that great. It’s B tier at most. Like someone said, messy writing, and personally I can’t stand that the show and protagonist can’t be it’s own thing without baby Yoda.
@@DynamicThreads You are talking about a person that is "paid" to believe in propaganda...
And i like how you skipped your terrible take with the EU.
"It's all true: Nazis, D-Day, WW2... all of it!"
Average person, circa 2039
Not everyone knew the Jedi because it's an entire galaxy and all the Jedi that existed never went to every planet and people did not believe it. The armorer is talking about old old history with eons ago war that had ended between the Mandalorians and the Jedi. (I do not like the sequels at all but this kinda makes sense cause not everyone witnessed the force powers directly and most people would not believe the stories, because if I told you right now that there were wizards with telekinesis and I was the only witness would you believe me most likely no) I agree with most of your points on the sequels but not this one.
there accually are ppl who try to deny history, like nazi or communism crimes
Average person in 2020: "The United States was an Axis power, the Civil War was fought to expand slavery and the Civil Rights Movement was a myth.'
@@operatorcobalt2700
Jedi were present in the senate, work on official diplomatic missions for the high chancellor of the republic and were generals in a huge war across the galaxy. And everything happend in a time with hyperspace travel, holo projectors and transmissions that reached several star systems.
You have to be intentionally shielded from information in order to don't know the Jedi.
@@lars9925 and the only power that could suppress that information is the rebellion, because they are the ones that destroyed all the institutions and the economy and made it so the bulk of humanity is enslaved or struggling to survive.
In the mandalorian's defence he was apart of a cult
Even in the height of the republic, the Jedi were rarely seen by most people outside of the inner rim. With the empire wiping out all information of the Jedi it’s only told in stories. This is my explanation to this.
The Mandalorian takes place mostly in the outer rim, where jedi would rarely visit and were not believed to exist by most people even while they were active, and Din was raised in a cult, so no shit these characters don't know much about jedi
Din, like many still alive, was around during the Clone Wars and was old enough to have heard something about the Jedi. He was raised in an ultra traditional sect of Mandalorians, so there's no way he wouldn't have heard of the same tales as the armory woman, who is a major figure in that same sect. He regularly travels the galaxy as a bounty hunter in the aftermath of Return of the *Jedi.* There's no way he wouldn't have heard of Luke and the Jedi, unless the Rebels kept what happened hidden for literally no reason, especially since Luke is supposed to follow Yoda's command to pass on what he has learned and revive the Jedi Order. It doesn't make any sense for Din and everyone else to be so ignorant of the Jedi. And the Outer Rim is no excuse. Tatooine is an Outer Rim world and even slave boy Anakin had heard of the Jedi.
@Alfred Vickers “Armory woman” is there even a name for that person? If not, that’s pretty sad.
@@enemytruck9798 no because thats her job she basically a spiritual leader for Mandalorians, aswell as the one that fixes their armor and weapon, much like how a clan elder is passed down every generation so is the armorer its their job.
her title is more important then her name which im assuming the person who becomes the armorer leaves behind because they dont need it.
People know luke as a pilot who destroyed death star. Not a jedi during civil war but after that luke go on his journey to create new jedi order. So i guess people really don't know about Jedi
@@alfredvickers4054 1. Good point But they KNOW abaut the jedi!Of course they think they are a myth because IN THAT RIM the republic and jedi didn't have so much influence and I think that is why ashoka is hiding there.
2. The jedi and the mandalorians were MORTAL ENEMIES! Do you really think the ultra traditional mandalorian cult would like to speak abaut their mortal enemies?
3. Din was raised at that rim and probably prefeer to act as a bounty hunter at that rim because he knows it very well.
Rey is given everything in the sequels without deserving it, because that's how the people in charge *cough* Kathleen Kennedy *cough* Jar Jar Abrams *cough* got into their positions.
Not only that, but its how Kathleen Kennedy thought young girls would be most inspired... The super powerful female lead was supposed to be an inspiration, but imo a struggle, or hard fought journey would be sm better. Not to mention that Rey has some of the most poorly choreographed lightsaber duels and fight too, so even though she is "powerful," you can't even be proud of her victories.
@@carterhamilton4710 True, she wins by using a lightsaber as a freaking baseball bat, I could be a more elegant lightsaber duelist if I would practice with a stick ;-;
Rey is just like a mad 5 year old throughout the whole new trilogy. I basically disregard the new trilogy because of how inaccurate they are to star wars. Rogue One, The Mandalorian and Solo I do like though. They actually feel like star wars movies!
Kathleen paid her dues. JJ entered the industry due to nepotism.
The ST can be summed up like this: nothing is earned. Every movie that seems to be the case.
I suspect that the Empire tried to erase the Jedi order from history. The Mandalorian takes place before a new Jedi order has been established. Given the size of the Star Wars galaxy, I think it is reasonable that some people would be unaware of their existence.
Did you know that ninjas as we know them never actually existed? There were assassins and covert spies in historical Japan, but the name and overall concept of ninjas are works of fiction.
The Jedi are kind of the same thing, something that existed but are completely misunderstood in many parts of the SW galaxy
The thing about the jedi is that when the empire took over, they literally wiped out any information about the jedi and rumors were only told between people. Also he doesnt know about mandalores history is because the watch only wanted to tell the foundlings what they needed to know to survive or we will find out more as the series continues.
yeah and it dosnt seem like they had the internet back then in the galaxy far away a long time ago. even there hologram broadcasts seems as limited as ham radio. so noone is walking around with a smartphone and access to all knowledge like we do. its easy to make fun of people for being ignorent when there is no internet. and yeah it has been like 20 years since the emprie wiped the jedi out, older people would remember them (if they had a chance to see one in action, and hear the stories) however it would be more likely for them to have seen clones. the Mandalorian is also only in the outer rim, an area run by crime lords, so people know about the hutts and such. and i think your definatley right, the watch is intentionally keeping the foundlings in ignorence to protect them. any buisness the mandalorians seem to have with jedi, empire, or sith dosnt end well. And even when aniken was a little kid on tatoowen, Jedi were thought of as just basically legendary warriors. they really did not have a presence in the outer rim, and its been 20 years since then its not surprising to me people don't really know or care about an irrelevant presence to there planet from 20 years ago.
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 I mean they fought in a galactic war I'm pretty sure way more then 1% of people saw a jedi its ridiculous to say otherwise. And you see them go pretty much everywhere in the clone wars tv show. And on top of that they been doing it for thousands of years.
@@trigunfox2325 You are forgetting that there were thousands of Jedi and Trillions of beings in the galaxy. 1% is very believeable. Also Mando was born in the Outer rim which is especially secluded from the Jedi for the most part. Core worlds would have known very well who they were but not these fringe planets mostly cut off from the rest of the galaxy.
@@trigunfox2325 the clone wars was only within a time span of three years, and sometimes attacks were with only 1 jedi. Plus, they were keepers of peace, not warriors so for thousands of years there was no full scale war and not much presence of the jedi. Even anakin on tatooine thought of the jedi as rumors. Also many thousands of systems were under separatist rule, and they only attacked with droids. Mano not hearing about jedi is completely legit, especially when you add in he was in a bounty cult. Rey not hearing about jedi is legit too, but her gaining jedi powers instantly and being able to fly the falcon with no intergalactic/spaceship experience is where we all go wtf
besides, the galaxy was extremely large, therefore, even if there was 10.000 jedi keeping the peace it'd be still rare to come across one right?
Something tells me, after some clever and thorough investigation, that Robot Head doesn't like the sequels very much
I don't think he even likes star wars if he's bashing the original trilogy.
@@sunphoenix1231 Thats just the average star wars "fan"
@@timo9533 I mean I think there's a lot of valid criticism, but I think the world building is some of the best. This channel's argument against that world building doesn't even really stand against conventional logic considering how popularity works just globally and that not everything is recognizable by everyone on other parts of Earth. I'm a fan of the Mandolorian, but I'm aware there are going to be tradeoffs due to any large companies interference. I'm grateful there isn't as much interference as the sequel trilogy.
@@sunphoenix1231 he wasn't though. Did you even watch the video?
@@footlessmoonbadger7189 yes and his arguments are shit
9:45 I think one of the things that makes that scene work so well is it's stillness.
They're just sitting & talking, the bgm varies from very subtle to nonexistent. This lets you focus on the actual point of the scene without distraction.
Having most of the population not knowing about the Jedi makes sense to me.
I was in an anthropology class in 2008 and we were going on about symbology and had to give examples. I asked the group if they know what the hammer and sickle means. The older ones 30+ knew what it was, 20 somethings did not. The Soviet Union ended 1991, a mere 17 years and to the young it was like Solo's reaction, ancient religion, did it even exist.
The Empire would have shut down all discussion of the Jedi and rounded up its advocates calling them terrorists or criminals, then silently round up any one who spoke up for them. I guess their social score would be in the low numbers, sound familiar, NAZI Germany, North Korea, China perhaps in the future the USA.
Your average person would forget about them and never mention it their kids, best if it was forgotten lest Big Brother is looking.
I’m pretty sure the “eons past” line was referencing the Mando Jedi wars instead of the actual Jedi order. Also the mandolorian cultists weren’t on Tatooine. Still a fair criticism though, Disney is confusing.
Pretty sure that line was a reference to the KOTOR series which most Star Wars fans SHOULD know about by now.
@@logicaldude3611 Is that Gate Keeping I hear?
@@ondururagittandeska2004 idk if that’s sarcastic or not
Still, fans should know kotor as it gives context to a lot of stuff that happened in the most known stories and has some of the best star wars characters ever made
@@ondururagittandeska2004
Don't care if you don't feel welcome but not knowing KOTOR is a joke lol! Jerk? Go cry about it. You should thank Disney for sure family and always welcome vibes LMAO!
@@ondururagittandeska2004 The only people who cry about gatekeeping are the exact people who don't belong in whatever community they are complaining about.
For over a thousand generations the Jedi knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic.
In one generation all memory of the Jedi knights and of the force was lost.
That's how Propaganda in a galaxy works.
Remember: Luke believed Jedi were a Myth.
So did Anakin and at that point the Jedi were actually a thing.
@@TheTwistedTreant526 luke was purposely not told. Both of his foster parents knew. Also, anakin knew what jedi were he just never saw a real one. He heard stories they used lightsabers.
Anakin knew of the Jedi, even if he had little understanding of them. He thought Qui-Gon was a Jedi just from seeing his lightsaber.
20-ish years is not enough time to forget a thousand years of history. At the very least, people should remember the clone wars, considering most of them have lived through it, and a major reason why the empire was initially so well received was because they promised peace after a brutal war.
@@ngabel8956 hence why most of the empire are humans. Most of the cis were aliens and it led to mass xenophobia from the galaxy, enough to want the empire
@@ngabel8956 You say 20ish years isn't enough time to forget thousands of years of history, but I disagree with that. There have been global events that have happened within the past year that most people don't remember about let alone know even happened. Not only are people are fucking stupid and believe what they want to believe when it is most convenient for them, but people forget or misremember events all the time or will just straight up lie. This can be made doubly so considering that the Jedi, even at their height, were never the majority in the galaxy and most people never interacted with one in throughout their entire life. And to add on top of that, once the empire took over, they had 2 decades to shovel all types of propaganda down the throats of the people of the core worlds, telling them that the Jedi did this and the Jedi did that or those two people were never Jedi or there was actually this many during this point in time and what not.
That at-at stomping with the music never gets old.
I actually disagree slightly for once, since Palpatine went through a lotta effort to kill Jedi, and people connected to them. This meant that the very mention of the word "Jedi" could get you killed. Also, Din Djarin spent most of his life sheltered from everything, since he was a Mandalorian. It also seems pretty unbelievable, and Jedi were generally just written out of History. That combined with no way to access information on Jedi (no history classes, access to Jedi archives/ holocrons restricted, no technology to store this information like the internet does) made it super difficult to know about the Jedi
To be fair, even in the original trilogy, it kinda seemed like most of the characters had only vaguely heard of the Jedi.
Exactly, especially with ppl thinking of it as an old religion, in A New Hope. Just assumed ppl forgot about them once almost all of em were killed.
@@racool911 that and the empire erased their history
Which is why the prequels are stupid
@@basedchimera5859 bro, common people didn't fight in the clone wars, and during the clone wars was the most likely place you'd see a Jedi "Maybe"
There was only a small amount of Jedi left during the prequel era, and its not like Jedi went around flaunting themselves to everyone. They're reclusive monks for fuck sake.
@@Goujiki reclusive monks running the capitol of the new Republic wake the fuck up
When it comes to the Mandalorian "Battles from Eons past" they're talking about the Mandalorian wars, not the few squabbles in Mandalor during the clone wars.
Your point still stands tho, it's weird nobody remembers
In the OT it was because the Empire was a totalitarian regime that didn't want people to know about the Jedi. For Mando he's part of an isolated cult. But why doesn't Rey know about them?
honestly i think theres just no real interplanetary news
Yea I think Mando is kind of explained when you get to bo Katan she knows of Ashoka right away. Also,Lucas is kind of to blame the Jedi weren’t supposed to be very common most knew about them but never met one. So for most it was far fetched stories.
Correct me if I'm wrong here but didn't disney axe the Mandalorian Wars along with the rest of the EU?
When I saw the whole Jedi=Mystery thing my mind immediately went to KotoR 2 and was like how the hell could they (Mandalorians) not know about the Jedi... but then I remembered that disney axed that as well T.T
That's why EU will always be my canon. There is no Star Wars canon without Revan or Kreia imho..
@@darthbaluuduh6598 they are ambiguous about KOTOR. They haven't released a Disney version yet, but they want to keep the lore. They haven't decided which ending to keep I think.
I’ve just decided that the sequels are on an alternate timeline. It’s the only explanation for all the contradictions.
That spring open Sith spikes commercial brought back a rush of nostalgia
Disney is just corse irritating and gets in everywhere....😪
you forgot rough xD
*coarse :)
Not like Robot Head. It's...smooth...
I hated so much when the Jedi were treated as a myth in the sequel trilogy. Why were they not well known by that point at all?!
I replied directly to robot head explain this. Check it out.
"I thought Luke Skywalker was a myth?!"
_12 hours later_
"I'm gonna use the Jedi mind trick that I thought was fictional yesterday."
_Confused anger sounds_
@@Zathren considering that Jabba the Hut knew what a mind trick was, you shouldn’t be surprised Rey would _Force persuade_ a guard after three tries.
They were already largely forgotten by the time of the original trilogy and that was just 20 years.
Perhaps its a subtle reflection of Disney's knowledge of Star Wars, after all their new films seem like they were made as if all the other films were just ancient myths
A lot of people don’t seem to understand, but the Star Wars galaxy is an ENORMOUS place!! At the peak of their power, there were only 10,000 Jedi Knights and 10,000 beings is tiny compared to millions of planets with billions of other beings. With the enormous size of the galaxy, so it’s not that far of a stretch to believe that the galaxy would come to believe that the Jedi were simply a myth.
Lol, your hilarious edits are the best! The Michael Jackson and Elvis thing with the Michael sound effects, that had me rolling. You're so good at getting your point across and tearing Disney/Lucas Films a new one in a funny and creative manner. I always enjoy your videos immensely and I rewatch them every so often when I need a laugh. So thanks for being awesome. ☺️👍
I’m scared for the obi wan show
Me too!
Why? I'm looking forward to it as long as it's made as well as The Mandalorian. As long as Filoni has control over it, it'll be great
Yeah me too, I just hope that Kathleen stays away from it, maybe It can be good then
@@RobotHead but I am happy to see Ewan Mcgreggor back as Obi Wan even though it’s been taken over by Disney
@@BryonLetterman The Mandalorian is trash
When are they going to fire kathleen and just put Dave Filoni in charge. It would be better for everybody: The fanbase gets what they want, Disney would get more money and everyone would just be happy
They bought it to push an agenda, not to make the fans happy
This is the 21st century where anything that makes sense is bad and ignorance is rewarded. Sadly. we're only 20% thru it.
@@Swaelo Facts. They just wanna expose people to the SJW ways and get them accustomed to it. It works good for them especially since Disney is a platform for kids. The social brainwashing shall continue.
Bad idea giving a position like that to Dave Filoni, he’s already got enough on his hands being the next generation of Lucas. The last thing he should do is take a job that isn’t fitting for his talents.
Filoni is a male feminist that speaks at feminist covententions about how 'the force is female' and the further pushing of kathleens narrative, I dont ever want to see him in charge even if he was doing it to just appease her it shows he has no spine. Jon Favreau I would be up for, I think most of the success of this show is from his side.
Just occurs to me that Luke being kept ignorant of the Jedi during his youth reflects the medieval myth of Perceval, who was deliberately raised in the wilderness in ignorance of the existence of knights and chivalry.
Way too underrated, people need to watch this and realize. I never even thought about it, but you’re on point with all of this. They lack knowledge of their history and the mandolorians literally fought the Jedi
Robot Head, if you don't respond to this comment, Rian Johnson will get a new Star Wars series on disney.
I'll have you over for dinner if you can guarantee he won't get it!
@@RobotHead I hope you're right then
@@luxentmacaroni I hope we get a Rian Johnson trilogy, change my mind.
@@MandoDin out of all the Sequel writer's Rian Johnson understands the setting and history the best, I'm thoroughly excited for the future of Disney Star Wars.
@@sexyatheist69 I dunno if I would say that.
Din Djarin: *Was a child in a small colony during the Clone Wars.*
"Why hasn't he seen a Jedi?"
Every battle in the Clone Wars was led by a Jedi.
@@hanburgundy4317 And yet you'll note there were no clones. This was just a Separatist takeover as you see them doing countless times.
And while we're on the topic, why didn't Luke know about the Jedi? He was even closer to the clone Wars than, say, Rey.
@@swaggyspaceman9805 He definitely should have known.
The jedi temple on coruscant was literally the last one, there was barely any jedi left even during the last days of the republic
I say "barely any left" because a thousand or so Jedi (most of them padawans) is NOTHING compared to how many people there are in the galaxy
The Jedi became a myth, not "erased" forever. But yes some people don't know about them because Jedi were already irrelevant during the prequel era anyways.
You're acting as if Jedi ran around the galaxy flaunting themselves too lol, they're reclusive monks who meditate for christ sakes.
@@Goujiki this guy gets it. The more the video goes on, the more it seems like he knows nothing about the topic... He does not read between the lines.
ROFL that Michel Jackson bit had me in tears !! :-D Pls do a Part 2 to the Mando Season 2
4:20 thank You for that image! xD
I do feel a bit like the Jedi being forgotten was set up a bit in the OT, like with the guy who Darth Vader chokes in ANH acting like the force powers were just some overhyped parlour tricks, when he should have been fully aware of the power of the Jedi. I think it’s pretty likely that through propaganda, the Emperor was downplaying the power of the force and the Jedi so he would continue to go unchallenged.
I don’t fully believe everyone would be so ignorant at this point, but I also feel like it was set up in the OT
Luke, the guy who saved the galaxy by the end of the OT, guess what, he was a Jedi. The hero of the galaxy has been forgotten, even on his own fucking birth planet.
@@BaldorfBreakdowns frankly, life on Tatooine probablly didn't change for shit, not when the republic fell, and not when the empire fell. Those outer rim systems don't have much at stake in the politics of the galatic senate. As far as I'm aware, some of these systems probably don't even have seats in coruscant.
This is the bit everyone seems to forget while they're bashing the sequels... the jedi were forgotten in the OT too! And thats even closer to order 66. Like, 18/19 years right?
Also, a galaxy is BIG and not everyone was part of the Republic. A lot of people on the fringe planets probably never had heard of a jedi. And exactly to your point, the empire made a point of wiping out all info. So I think its more than reasonable for a majority to not know who they were.
Now, if we were talking about some middle aged dude sat on coruscant saying he'd never heard of the jedi, I'd agree with the video. But we're not! Its these tiny back water planets and a bunch of young people.
@@GarethGareBearCoffin But then the Empire was defeated by a Jedi. No one knows how the Empire was defeated? No one knows who saved the galaxy? That's mentally handicapped. Should be common knowledge or at least easily obtained knowledge.
@@misterspeedforce3525 I might be stupid, but I kinda would think that every planet in the galaxy would be informed that the Empire has been defeated. Now, maybe it's just my small, smooth brain, but, I'd think at least 1 or 2 people would be curious about how that came to be... But probably not, I'm just overthinking the effects of an Empire being overthrown in a Galatic war... Silly me...
"Your problem isn't Star Wars, your problem is being threatened."
By what? Bad storytelling? Pitiful characters? Stupid plot? Disrespecting George till his grave?
"..."
George appointed KK.
And I'm sure it's his greatest regret
You gotta start a Social George Warriors movement already!!!
Happy last day of 2021 Robothead! We still got stuff to mock... Let's talk about Star Wars Star cruiser... The vessel!
Obi Wan from his new personal series: "Jedi? Never heard of them, please tell me more!"
Probably just Obi Wan trolling whoever is trying to explain Jedi to them
Obi: "A Light-Swisher... what's that?" 😏
@@coolbanana165 LaZerSwOrD
"Do I know an Obi-wan? Huh, weird name..... oh wait, of course I know him, it's me!"
Most of this “confusion” comes from the writer’s attempts at humor. I blame Marvel for this awkward humor inserted into everything
You blame marvel for starwars mistakes? Ok😂
Like how Finn didn't know that jetpacks for stormtroopers were a thing.
@@goheezycheezy5309 Well, he has a point. The sequel trilogy is a lot like Marvel movies. After watching both 8 and 9, I came out of the theaters and said that felt more like a Marvel movie than Star Wars. Its because of the popularity of the Marvel movies and the humor they employ, Disney decided to apply the same formula to Star Wars, expecting the same result a la "I am inevitable" "And I am Iron Man"="I am all the Sith" "And I am all the Jedi", or that atrocious yo momma joke in a setting and situation where no joke should have been said at all
@@goheezycheezy5309 not for all its problems, but the MCU films started the joke-a minute dialogue that’s crawled it’s way into Star Wars.
Bathos. Way too much bathos.
yo that intro is NICE idk how you made it look so authentic lmao
4:09 this is masterful editing ,for humors sake ,aurrrhhhhhhhhhgggg well done man😂
I like to pretend the sequel trilogy was just a bad, bad dream.
Me too
Me too
What sequels I just thought it was a dream
I pretend it isn’t cannon and pretend legend is still cannon
@@kaidenhall2718 me too
Hux: I am the spy!
Also Hux in previous movies:
*Blew up a planetary system, killed trillions
*Almost destroyed the Resistance
Makes no sense. Disney is retarded. How can your “inside man” commit such atrocities. That’s like Tarkin saying he’s a spy after he killed trillions with the Death Star.
@@narutobroken because logic
Back then he was working for Snoke, not some emotionally insecure and impulsive lapdog.
@@narutobroken Because it was convenient to make him the spy, the writer thought that up whilst on the shitter most likely. And then thought having Poe respond: "I knew it" would be the funniest shit.
I wasn't expecting that analogy. 4:10 😆 it was so funny I crackled up
Theres was actually an inconsistency in the Mandalorian. When he arrives back at his Clan after delivering the Child. He told the Armorer that he was saved by "An enemy. That didnt know it was my enemy." This would indicate he knew what the Jedi were and that they were enemies of Mandaloirans. But then we just have him being told about them and he has no idea what the Jedi are.
Why would Mando believe the Child was his enemy if he didnt know who the Jedi were?
late reply but i think he was just calling grogu his enemy because he was a bounty, therefore making him mandos enemy
@@EvanSmith8878 How can a baby be his enemy?
Grogu was his enemy because mando was literally hunting him
The Jedi were myths to many characters in the original trilogy
Exactly, it’s not that hard to imagine that a mando hasn’t really heard of the Jedi
Right.
And there were only ~10k Jedi in the time of Ep. 1-3.
10k in a galaxy with a population in the quadrillions.
That's nothing.
@@copyorange The Jedi and Force were considered no more than forgotten myths to most of the Galaxy by the time of A New Hope. We, as an audience, perceive Jedi and the Force as something commonly recognized because the main stories primarily follow and focus on Jedi.
@@mentallyderangeddude
Exactly!
But by the end of the OT, a Jedi saved the galaxy. Guess the Republic withheld that info...
I remember when the worst enemy of Star Wars was George Lucas and his endless edits of the original trilogy. Now we have Disney
Let's be fair. Nobody knew how to handle this franchise all the way from 1983 to almost present date. Nearly 8/11 films are either incomprehensible or the safest fanservice.
Dude I was just thinking about this yesterday.
My way to go around it is. The universe is so big that the Jedi only ruled in some
Of it but not all of it and the ones that don’t know are really....REALLY far away lol
I was trying to think of the timeline to explain the whole thing to my wife and I was like wait......This all happened in a short amount of time.
Even Han solo himself said that he does not believe in Jedi
I can’t remember the exact quote but it’s along the lines. along the lines off when you travel halfway across the Galaxy you hear somebody weird and strange things and rumours
Aka You hear so much crazy stuff that the Jedi is just another myth you hear from the far-off core of the Galaxy
In the outer rim many people probably think Jedi’s are just old folk tales and myths these magical people that can move things with their mind and have laser swords
DO to rain and it’s basically the equivalent of the outback of the galaxy , far out , poor and exploited planets
It would be like trying to explain planes to some American hillbilly isolated in the middle of nowhere in the early 1900s
They’d think your crazy and saying nonsense about these magical flying machines
So not trying to explain these magical Jedi to people in the outer rim
@Tonberry don't forget an entire army was cloned Jango fetts, a mando.
Perhaps Mando knew about the Jedi but forgot about them. He is pretty focused on his job. He probably dismissed them as just another group in Mandolore's long list of enemies.
Fun fact that supports this claim: the game "star wars fallen jedi" was never gonna have the force, jedi or anything involving them because disney didn't want them which forced respawn entertainment to beg
Imagine something called "Fallen Jedi" without the Force or, um, JEDI...stupidity is strong in those ones.
Actually, I would have kinda like that. A game exploring the universe outside of Jedi and Sith and force abilities. It would have been nice to explore more in depth the life of outlaws and such
@@isaiah9666 fully with you there, BF for example makes its points as a shooter, Jedi parts are only small add-ons. But if you call it "Jedi", there should be Jedi should be inside it. Call it Resistance/Mandalorians/w/e and I'm on board.
@@matt_9112 obviously if Disney wouldn't give the green light the title would be different
@@bibianufus Yea I don't they're that stupid.
The Elvis Presleys vs Micheal Jacksons part floored me.
Just seen two of your videos. Im Subbed. You have some insight I have never heard from even the big guys in the Fandom.
I'm afraid I have to criticize: Grogu was seen as a child, firstly because he made toddler sounds, secondly because he didn't really try to communicate (apart from the sounds) and thirdly because he walked and interacted with his environment as awkwardly as a normal toddler. And probably because he was sitting in a floating stroller, making whiny sounds.
3:01 That "I'm the spy" scene looks like an SNL sketch
In my opinion it would have had more sense if the spy was a stormtrooper who got inspired by the actions of Finn and realized how evil the First Order was.
Seeing Watto and his gang laughing at Rey is heartwarming.
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Yoda: I've been training for 800 hundreds years.
Disney: one week is enough
I'm pretty sure the galaxy's view of the Jedi comes down to the fact that
1. They are a HIGHLY secretive and close knit group that most works behind the scenes. They have a temple but outside of that they do not advertise themselves publicly
2. There are so few of them. There are like, what, Billions of people throughout the galaxy but only several hundred Jedi? Most people will never ever see a Jedi and if they did wouldn't even know one when they saw one
Because of this the Jedi developed an image of a more "mystical" and elusive group that some in that galaxy may not even know about, especially after order 66 where the Empire litterally tries to wipe them from existence
Acording to Kanan from Rebels there were only 100,000 Jedi all across the Galaxy
Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish
And Disney act like they forgot 'bout Mace
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Pyromancy
Let one character actually die ffs
@@phil6715 That does not work for Mace, Jedi have been seen to survive falls from great heights! I get what you're saying, but Mace Windu really should be alive, even if he is some twisted darker version! It makes no sense that he would die in that situation, and that's why people think he is still alive!
"The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
Windu returns as a voice cameo in the final chapter of the Star Wars sequel trilogy The Rise of Skywalker. During the battle between Rey and his killer, Palpatine, Windu's voice is heard speaking to Rey, encouraging her to rise and fight back as all of the past Jedi are with her."
yeah ...he dead.
When you really think about it, beyond the prequels Jedi were nothing but myths and legends.
From our point of view as the audience we got to see many Jedi in the originals, and even sequels to an extent.
So when it comes to The Mandalorian at first I was confused as to why Din Djarin didn’t have any knowledge of the Jedi considering they took part in the history of Mandalore, even having a mandalorian jedi at one point. but considering how little we see of the Jedi from the perspectives of others in the galaxy it makes sense. And when Mando finally does meet a Jedi it is a true spectacle to behold, and he was likely honored to an extent fighting beside a warrior who survived Both the Clone Wars and Galactic civil war.
@Young Westthe Jedi order by the time of the prequels was also fairly small compared to the eras like the old republic, and it only continued to dwindle because of the clone wars, so it’s no surprise that by the time of shows like Star Wars Rebels the Jedi order was all but forgotten by those outside of the core worlds.
Kinda sad when you think about it honestly.
I now realize luke's meant to be crazy yoda from a new hope, not luke
He's actually Jake Skywalker, a completely different character who is mistaken for Luke. Perhaps Jake is a clone that Snoke made to try and throw Rey off the trail. The real Luke is still somewhere out there, learning the mysteries of the Force.
@@logicaldude3611 Luke's bipolar cousin that no one likes to talk about! It all makes sense now
@@CollaborativeVODS Even Hamill said he just acted as a completely different character and named him Jake Skywalker lol
I just realized that the end of your videos is the thing from that action movie app! That’s a throwback
Devils advocate: the galaxy is massive like billions and trillions of people
That with the fact the empire would definitely spread purposeful disinformation to convince people it was previous regime propaganda and few normal galactic citizens would likely haves ever interacted with a Jedi could easily turn them into fairy tales. Luke knew nothing of the Jedi when he started training.
Reys powers and the sequels are a mess but Jedi becoming myths instead of fact to most civilians in the universe is completely believable to me.
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Agreed, we saw a glimpse of this in the legends comic about the battle of jabbin (not sure if right one or not) but the locals said they heard rumors that the Jedi ate babies and some random crap
We have seen how fast things are relayed in this Disney clown-verse...a kid sweeping the stables knows a legend about a Jedi skyluke and is using force powers for cleaning two days after it happened... As Churchill said "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
I am just waiting for the official announcement that the new trilogy is not cannon
canon
I hope so
Yeah thatll never happen. That's some childish, naive thinking you got there, thinking disney will de canonize 3 movies that each made over a billion dollars, especially when canon is super important to them and it would confused literally everyone not activley plugged into star wars canon and lore. I STILL have people asking why Yoda is a baby after ROTJ or who Ahsoka is. The very idea of them just tossing 3 movies out is laughable at best and idiotic at worst. UA-cam comments not liking the movies= nothing to disney
The mandalorian could make this possible... there are rumors about it..
@@luismschd In all honesty I would rather have it fix or support the sequels rather than erase it
2 things:
1st - Rey not knowing the Jedi exist is literally a straight rip from Luke not knowing. It's the exact same scenario, her parents left her in the outer rim hoping to keep her far away from Palpatine and from being used as a weapon. The fact that she's has heard of them but didn't know they were real means she does interact with people who know they exist but found it difficult to believe the stories were true. Perfectly plausible and also has the benefit of allowing Harrison Ford to explain the Jedi on screen as Alec Guinness did to much newer and younger audience.
2nd - Mando not knowing about the Jedi also makes perfect sense. He was brainwashed by a cult who fundamentally misunderstand the history of the Mandalorians and their ideals. All the other characters in the show have a pretty sensible level of Jedi understanding given their location and history. The Jedi weren't actually that well known throughout the galaxy, period. Most planets are poor and starving, not having enough recourses for themselves, let alone enough to interest Clone War factions to set up bases or trade. Especially in the outer rim where there was little big faction fighting. Imagine living in a subsistence farming village in Africa and hearing stories of the US Marines who defeated and killed world famous terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What the fuck does that story have to do with the world you live in. It might as well be Greek mythology. Perspective is everything.
I've been watching so many of these videos that the voice in my mind sounds like robot head now.
Let's just be honest: the frog couple and their kids are the best part of Star Wars.
Ray swinging the lightsaber is magnificent. Swinging it back and forth like swatting flies had to have taken months of training. It’s right up there with the Abakan and obi wan fight.
Abakan and obi wan? I hope you don't mean anakin and obi wan because that was actually unironically good.
@@nameputhpong9041 you don’t know about Abakin?
Oh my bad, Abakan.
I'd say it's right on par w/ the Maul vs. Qui Gon/Kenobi fight
Ive found more similarities of the original template for the Jedi in Avatar: The Last Airbender than I have in Disney's Star Wars version of the Jedi.
4:23 now that's a star wars fight i would pay a fortune to see, but i don t necessary want any of them to lose XD