What's The Story With Kylo Ren? The Last Skywalker

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • The Rise of Skywalker will be the last time we see Kylo Ren. The truth is, he could have been great.
    Kylo Ren is a great example of how little interest JJ Abrams, Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm had in their own creation. Our main villain was a confusing mess with confusing powers. Did anyone actually like him? Did Leia know he was her son? Is Rian Johnson’s Kylo the same character as JJ Abram’s Kylo?
    Here are my thoughts on the great Kylo Ren!
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  • @RobotHead
    @RobotHead  4 роки тому +1208

    Hope everyone is safe and not going crazy. 2 videos in 2 weeks! Hope you enjoy this breakdown of Kylo Ren. He could have been great! If you enjoy the video consider liking and subscribing. And if you can, please share the video. Cheers!

    • @CHOCSPERKS
      @CHOCSPERKS 4 роки тому +22

      Talk about the downfall of hux also. (We can agree that he became space hitler to a complete joke)

    • @harrietharris2638
      @harrietharris2638 4 роки тому +3

      an other 8m vid ???

    • @bradhedgehog12
      @bradhedgehog12 4 роки тому +1

      Robot Head I’m doing good man. Say how are you btw?

    • @joeydubbs763
      @joeydubbs763 4 роки тому +2

      Dude, a the commercial really fucked the flow. Way to take your own critique in story building. Fuck me that was irritating. You've got 2 places to put a commercial, the middle isn't 1 of them.

    • @julien.biardeau
      @julien.biardeau 4 роки тому +1

      So many videos, incredible :D

  • @dookie_12
    @dookie_12 4 роки тому +4146

    Why didn’t Obi-wan try to murder Anakin in his sleep?
    Seems like the heroic thing to do.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 4 роки тому +235

      Don't. Even.
      Obi-Wan is my fav SW character, and at least the sequels didn't ruin *him* - don't give Disney any more ammunition for their character assassination of the original characters.

    • @Chan-qk9eh
      @Chan-qk9eh 4 роки тому +140

      LadyDoomsinger yeah.
      At this point, it’s no longer about if it’s ‘canon’. To me, sequels aint Star Wars. But it’s about hearing the abomination that someone could even THINK about doing, I no longer want to hear how someone ruined my favorite character. No thank you.

    • @nebulous6660
      @nebulous6660 4 роки тому +45

      Because Anakin was the chosen one. Still is.

    • @adamhogan5442
      @adamhogan5442 4 роки тому +48

      @Dr. Me he meant before anakin did anything anakin had just slaughtered chidlren also obi wan didn't plan on cutting him down I told him not to try it I had to in self defence

    • @kwameadu0075
      @kwameadu0075 4 роки тому +52

      @@LadyDoomsinger But isn't that wild though? Obi-Wan is a central character in 6 films. Even as a ghost he is an important character, even more so than Yoda. And all we get for him in the sequels is a voice. Not even a mention of his name....a voice. That's like a Terminator film that doesn't mention a T-800. You just here Arnold's voice in the background.

  • @CuppaTeaExe
    @CuppaTeaExe 4 роки тому +26

    I had so much hope with Kilo in TFA, until he got his ass kicked, then because an embarrassment from there on.
    Just like the rest of the Disney Trilogy, waste of potential.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +5

      @Dr. Me Nah the prequels were actually good.

    • @thomanom2627
      @thomanom2627 4 роки тому

      @@emberfist8347 The prequels were dogshit

    • @thomanom2627
      @thomanom2627 4 роки тому

      What is wrong with Rey beating Kylo. Kylo was shot in the chest with Chewbacca's explosion bow thing.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +8

      @@thomanom2627 No the prequels are lightyears ahead of this crap Disney made. They had better characters, better story, better villains, better aliens, and better effects and soundtrack.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +6

      @@thomanom2627 If he bowcaster didn't blast him off that platform, he is not badly wounded enough to lose to a person who never wielded a lightsaber before.

  • @p.istvan8744
    @p.istvan8744 4 роки тому +12

    The sequels wasted an actor like Adam. And he was still the best part of the trilogy.

  • @GanonGhidorah
    @GanonGhidorah 4 роки тому +35

    After all these years, I am loving the feeling of vindication. When I first saw Force Awakens, Kylo was actually one of my biggest problems. Everything about him seemed wrong; he makes an intimidating entrance and does some cool stuff...but it's ruined the moment he starts speaking. In that mask, his voice sounds really dumb. Then he throws a tantrum with his lightsaber - twice...Then he takes the mask off to show...he's just some slimey, pastey-faced kid...
    And that's when it clicked for me what they were trying to do with him and how insulting it was. What was worse was afterwards, people were saying - "Oh he's SO deep and so complex. Best written character EVER. He's Anakin done RIGHT."
    And I'm left thinking - "What movie did YOU guys watch?"
    This kid isn't Anakin done right at all; this kid is just some kid PRETENDING to be Darth Vader - complete with Mask and Cape. It's literally the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

    • @myujokt733
      @myujokt733 4 роки тому

      What really piss me off the most about Kylo Ren is that despite the fact that both parents treated him roughly the same, he has more hesitation towards kill one of them than the other which he murders more readily.On top of that, he somehow cares about both of his parents despite the fact they abandoned him if anything, he shouldn't have any light left in him he should be with pure malice, hate, and any dark side emotion for what happened despite that he still hesitates about murdering both of their sorry arses for some reason.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 4 роки тому +3

      Absolutely! I felt the exact same way about Kylo being pathetic, and can't understand WHY some people actually like these sequels... I mean I really wanted to like them, but they're just SO gawdawful that I can't...
      Pathetic really sums it up all right...

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 4 роки тому +2

      @@myujokt733 Well I had rather abusive parents and I didn't kill them, though I seriously thought about it one particularly bad time when I was about 13, realized for effed up that was, and went to live with my grandmother as much as possible... Still I reconciled with my parents and took care of them till Dad passed on and still looking after Mom as she's growing older and weaker, and she was there main abusive one, Dad just started at work as much as possible. I realize too that a LOT of people had such situations FAR worse than I did as well. Just because life hands you a bag of shit doesn't mean you have to WALLOW in it-- that is a CHOICE. I decided never to raise a hand in anger to my kid and never have, nor to my wife. Not like my parents who would go bat shit crazy beating you at the drop of a hat. I can forgive, but like a relative of mine said one time, "I can forgive, but I damn sure can't forget".
      Some people in such situations "take vengeance" either on their parents, themselves, someone else, or the world at large (like shooting up a school or whatever), some people move 3,000 miles away and sever all ties to their kin who abused them, some folks forgive and move on to varying degrees, some strive to do what's right even though the other person who abused them didn't. That's the road I CHOSE... I forgave and take care of them because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO...
      So Kylo was "abandoned" by his parents, and "betrayed" by his mentor... So he becomes the equivalent of some nut job who shoots up schools, because he was hurt. Typical thinking nowadays... How many people have it or had it MUCH WORSE, and yet they DON'T become evil incarnate just to satisfy their own thirst for revenge? That's why Kylo is so pathetic... He reminded me of nothing as much as those "trenchcoat mafia" shitheads that shot up Columbine... Just some spoiled rich brats being poser wannabes that had ABSOLUTELY *NO* CLUE about what REAL problems and pain and suffering really are, and took the chickenshit way out to get their "revenge" on the world for "mistreating" them... Losers of the lowest sort, rotting in hell and rightfully so...
      Later! OL J R

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 4 роки тому +2

      Those people were the JJ Abrams ass-sniffers at the time who thought he could do no wrong. Those idiots are why the talentless hack has a career.

  • @johnstavropoulos7049
    @johnstavropoulos7049 4 роки тому +1

    0:11 That's NOT Anakin Skywalker!
    10:19 THAT'S Anakin Skywalker!

  • @willipoy2932
    @willipoy2932 4 роки тому +7

    Before I saw this Video I kept telling myself Kylo was the only good thing abut the Sequels but now I am convinced that even he is not that good.

  • @annachase6036
    @annachase6036 3 роки тому +1

    The thing with force ghosts is that nobody seems to understand them. It's not a Jedi or Sith ability. It belongs to the wills who are now extinct. After they died they came back as force ghosts. It's an ability that needs to be learned. Qui-Gon was the first Jedi to disco it. After his death he reached out to Yoda and tought him. Yoda tought Obi-Wan. Anakin was sort of the personification of the force so he didn't need to be tought that one thing. To him it came naturally. So Luke could have learned from Yoda or Obi-Wan. But Leia didn't even complete her training so she shouldn't have a force ghost. Same as Kylo

  • @partydragon
    @partydragon 4 роки тому

    Oh how this video could have been better without a sponsor ruining it in the middle. I know it pays the bills n you went about it in the right way but sponsors can still be shown at the end. The only reason I say this is because your videos are so addicting all the way through n a sponsor makes me wanna get back on subject. Glad your channel is doing well enough for them though. Keep it up mate!

  • @chriscollins2095
    @chriscollins2095 4 роки тому +1

    I would have liked to see Finn as the main character instead of Rey, but it would have made more sense if the sequel trilogy focused more on Kylo and Luke. We only got brief flashbacks of what happened at the temple. We should have had an entire movie about what happened at the temple. But Rey just had to be the focus of the trilogy--even though there was really no story to tell with her.

  • @Foobie07
    @Foobie07 2 роки тому +2

    2:24 I wanna point out you can clearly see that Kylo's lightsaber is already turned on before you hear the ignition sound.

  • @nexttolegendary
    @nexttolegendary 4 роки тому +10

    “The Rise of Skywalker” why even call it that if it’s not about Kylo?? It should have been the rise of Ben solo and his journey going from a manipulated Sith apprentice to a full fledged Jedi. Rey should have lost, and Kylo had to save her and redeem himself and all the last Jedi could have poured their experiences into him with flashbacks of their lives and training.

  • @thechroniclegamer4285
    @thechroniclegamer4285 3 роки тому +2

    I honestly feel like Kylo smashing his helmet is a good representation of how Snoke Manipulated him (kinda like how Palpatine manipulated a emotional unstable Anakin)

  • @williamtippery86
    @williamtippery86 4 роки тому

    Where you been robot head??? Need more content from you while we’re all quarantined!!!

  • @MikeZablo
    @MikeZablo 3 роки тому +2

    Abosoluty amazing channel ! I’m glad I found it ! I totally agree with all Star Wars content by Robot Head! It’s all true.. and funny bits make me burst in laughs & woke up my kids 🤦🏻😂

  • @paoloplasenzotti7861
    @paoloplasenzotti7861 4 роки тому +2

    The only thing I like about the new trilogy are the new lightsaber-Sounds

  • @shizzle73
    @shizzle73 4 роки тому

    You sir are the best!!! This should sum up how shitty things got over the last 6 years: for The Force Awakens I bought out an entire theatre and 59 of my closest friends and I went to see it on opening day (it sounds more expensive that it is and because tickets were $12.50 and nobody had change I actually and unintentionally made money for being able to buy all the seats in a theatre a month and a half before the opening). That's how excited I and everyone involved was. 6 of us went to the convention in Anaheim before TFA came out and I was in like 2 or 3 text groups that were Star Wars only conversations for over a year leading up to TFA and to be honest it was exactly what I expected. However leading up The Last Jedi there wasn't that same excitement leading up to it and after seeing it at a 2AM showing I walked out asking my friends what the fuck we had just seen. When it was released for home viewing I finally watched it again to try and comprehend what I had seen on opening night and I just got even more frustrated and angry... very angry. So much so that this 46 year old man who saw A New Hope at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood when he was 4 years old hasn't seen this last installment yet and after watching you last two videos I believe I haven't made the wrong decision. I can't be;ieve that Disney could fuck this up so bad and that Lucas allowed it. It's shameful on too many levels and everyone involved in the last trilogy should be taken out into a field and shot... all of them... Hamil included.

  • @stitchedbyiron
    @stitchedbyiron 3 роки тому +2

    "Kathleen Kennedy and jj abrams has lack of interest in the characters they created"
    A'hole Dads: hold my beer

  • @wizzleuno
    @wizzleuno 4 роки тому

    Adam driver trying to do the han solo shrug made me violently sick

  • @TenraiGudo
    @TenraiGudo 4 роки тому +1

    If Luke had molested Kylo then everything makes sense. Kylo is depressed and angry all the time. Han and Leia feel guilt and denial because of their relationships with Luke. Kylo hates his parents for putting him at risk. Kylo tortures Rei and Poe rather then befriend them and feel compelled to share why he is upset. Luke came into his bedroom uninvited with his "saber" out. Other students ran away from Luke too. His constant rage. When Rei is uncomfortable about his being undressed Kylo doesn't even hear her. I wish I was wrong but no other explanation was given by Disney!

  • @OVERDEAUXIS
    @OVERDEAUXIS 3 роки тому +1

    well in all honesty, Daisy CAN act. both did a good job

  • @bexa9011
    @bexa9011 4 роки тому +14

    The reason Rey so the most powerful and have all the jedi rally to her, and not to Kylo is because the Force is female. duh

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 4 роки тому

      I really wish they treated Ben with more respect tbh, he’s the last of the skywalkers and you’d think the force ghosts would’ve came earlier to guide him as well, considering he’s part of a very important family, his grandpa is the chosen one and his uncle is one of the most powerful Jedi ever, and that’s just a small part of it, everyone in his family is important meanwhile Rey has the most infamous family name ever.

  • @jackma77
    @jackma77 4 роки тому

    As always, brilliant!

  • @gunjantripathi3340
    @gunjantripathi3340 3 роки тому

    things that could have made kylo a somewhat decent character (if not a good villain)
    1) Disney should have casted an actual 20 something actor
    2) given him some flashback scene with his parents/atleast one scene with leia
    3) not push the love angle with rey

  • @poisenbery
    @poisenbery 2 роки тому

    Kylo: What's going on uncle luke?
    Luke: I thought I heard something
    I actually thought of this as I watched the movie. Origin story made 0 fkn sense.

  • @banger5283
    @banger5283 4 роки тому +1

    OMFG LUCAS LAUGHED

  • @NickST1192
    @NickST1192 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the VPN finally a good deal.

  • @eslm-studios2996
    @eslm-studios2996 4 роки тому

    I'll be honest, I feel sorry for Adam Driver. He was just doing his acting and fans force his and Daisy Ridley's Star Wars ship on him. Then when you look at his character, it just shows he had great potential, but it just fumbled like most of the sequel trilogy.

  • @alex.scaraoschi
    @alex.scaraoschi 2 роки тому

    Imagine Maul against Rey and Finn at the end of force awakens... He would've had a field day toying with them. Dooku on the other hand would've prolly zapped them into oblivion and gone off to sip some wine. Now imagine poor Kylo who started out as a badass and ended up as a sissy against Ahsoka and your average clone trooper in that scene.

  • @beezysbeatz4924
    @beezysbeatz4924 Рік тому +1

    Why does Kylo sound like he has a head cold with the dumb mask on?

  • @i.k.9467
    @i.k.9467 4 роки тому +1

    Bro everybody knows that Star Wars sequels doesn’t exists. It was just a bad dream. It is not real. Only movies they made was Rouge One and Solo.

  • @nicolaspetrus3861
    @nicolaspetrus3861 4 роки тому +1

    sorry but even when first seeing him in the force awakens, my gut twisted at the sheer vader ripoff aesthetic and heard someone say really? a few even laughed when he took off his helmet XD. it was only after the nostalgia wore off did the realisation of how awkward the whole thing was kicked in

  • @pawepetek7294
    @pawepetek7294 4 роки тому +4199

    Vader: *is the worst dude alive*
    Luke: I still see good in you
    Kylo: *is emo*
    Luke: So you've chosen... death

    • @Xiphactinus
      @Xiphactinus 4 роки тому +92

      Given the circumstances I think what Luke did seems reasonable if I think about it /s

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 4 роки тому +177

      @@Xiphactinus 🤦‍♂️

    • @pawepetek7294
      @pawepetek7294 4 роки тому +325

      @@Xiphactinus
      Yeah, attempting to kill your nephew because he had some weird dreams is a very responsible and reasonable act.

    • @Xiphactinus
      @Xiphactinus 4 роки тому +68

      @@pawepetek7294 the /s is there for a reason.

    • @pawepetek7294
      @pawepetek7294 4 роки тому +67

      @@Xiphactinus
      Sorry mate, I didn't realise there was /s at the end.

  • @Blurns
    @Blurns 4 роки тому +2133

    Do knives not exist in Star Wars, or did Luke seriously try to kill Kylo in his sleep with something as stealthy as a signal flare?

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 4 роки тому +121

      Blurns blasters exist. Just saying

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro 4 роки тому +893

      Well, knives do exist, but they're used as maps to secret locations.

    • @Mutantgamer
      @Mutantgamer 4 роки тому +264

      @@DonVigaDeFierro And they must have hidden extendable protractors meant to align with massive decades-old wreckage when viewed from a very specific spot.

    • @thisisfyne
      @thisisfyne 4 роки тому +26

      Lucasfilm since 1997: WE NEED MORE LIGHTSABERS ON SCREEN GODFUCKINGDAMNIT

    • @justsaying6341
      @justsaying6341 4 роки тому +3

      DANK
      Damn that DOES sound awful

  • @kev._._._.
    @kev._._._. 4 роки тому +703

    What bothers me is how Kylos last word in the whole trilogy is “ow”.

    • @decderbyshire1145
      @decderbyshire1145 4 роки тому +61

      Squigga that was also Abraham Lincoln’s last word.

    • @kellyoleary3607
      @kellyoleary3607 3 роки тому +26

      represents how he was treated

    • @whytho1534
      @whytho1534 3 роки тому +3

      Because dying is painful and when you’re in pain you say ow? Duh

    • @xappzx6956
      @xappzx6956 3 роки тому +31

      @@whytho1534 no one says “ow” when they die

    • @whytho1534
      @whytho1534 3 роки тому +3

      @@xappzx6956 yeah but "ow" is an onomatopoeia so its kinda of like when you shoot a gun and you hear a bang it doesn't actually sound like the word bang if you end up dying a painful death you're going to say something like ouch or ow but it doesn't actually sound like the word ouch and ow

  • @HerrMittmann
    @HerrMittmann 4 роки тому +511

    Can you imagine being one of those guys with cancer who's last wish was to see the new star wars movie before death?
    What a waste...

    • @thegreypath1777
      @thegreypath1777 4 роки тому +11

      Herr Mittmann - I have thought of that. I just hope that disney’s executives had enough compassion to show them “The JJ Cut”.

    • @J89943
      @J89943 4 роки тому +15

      As long as they enjoyed it it doesn’t matter if it’s a waste

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 3 роки тому +15

      @@J89943 I hoped he at least got some enjoyment out of the films. I can't say the same for myself, because I can't find anything redeeming in the sequels aside from a few scenes

    • @youtubeyoda6923
      @youtubeyoda6923 3 роки тому

      He did suicide when Rey hit Luke in the head in the second movie

    • @andreasobama9487
      @andreasobama9487 3 роки тому +4

      @@J89943 "haha light swords and spaceship go pew pew"

  • @ethanchoi7036
    @ethanchoi7036 4 роки тому +2095

    Adam Driver looking at his script: "This deal is getting worse all the time."

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 4 роки тому +182

      KK: Pray I don't alter it any further. Also the Force is Female now.

    • @miguelmontenegro3520
      @miguelmontenegro3520 4 роки тому +5

      We knew he could do better... And even If i think he is ugly as fuck, Yoda isn't beautiful is he?

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 4 роки тому +77

      Adam's acting was the only thing that made Ren tolerable.

    • @cannabishornliu6119
      @cannabishornliu6119 4 роки тому +44

      *Reylo*
      The only love story that is worse than Twilight!

    • @miguelmontenegro3520
      @miguelmontenegro3520 4 роки тому +3

      @@cannabishornliu6119 LOL

  • @Raptor302
    @Raptor302 4 роки тому +1332

    Rey: Could you put on a towel or something?
    Me: God, I miss sand.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +163

      I don't Disney has a obsession with putting desert planets everywhere. Anakin's line about it getting all over the place is now kinda vindicated.

    • @anakinskywalker7208
      @anakinskywalker7208 4 роки тому +28

      Raptor302 so do I

    • @jolonghthong
      @jolonghthong 4 роки тому +3

      Blake Tyson do you mean validated?

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +17

      @@jolonghthong No I meant vindicated.

    • @jolonghthong
      @jolonghthong 4 роки тому +2

      Blake Tyson yeah I see how that works.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 роки тому +674

    Remember when the Skywalkers were actually main characters of the Skywalker Saga?
    I remember. And back then, we didn't need their name obtrusively placed in the title to know the story was still about this family. Those were the days, when good story telling superseded cheap, titular marketing.

    • @maverick5408
      @maverick5408 4 роки тому +84

      Ironic. The one movie that has Skywalker in the title ends up extinguishing their bloodline. Rey Skywalker my fucking ass

    • @nononono12345
      @nononono12345 3 роки тому +9

      Fuck disney

    • @thrawn555
      @thrawn555 3 роки тому +12

      Ahh yes...I miss this civilized times

    • @hussainumair5837
      @hussainumair5837 3 роки тому +1

      Yuo

    • @hussainumair5837
      @hussainumair5837 3 роки тому +1

      Master kenobi

  • @thisisfyne
    @thisisfyne 4 роки тому +273

    Luke at the end of the OT: Even though I've grown past the naivete of my youth, I still believe that forces of evil can be brought back to the light. In fact, I know this, as my father Darth Vader was ultimately redeemed. I was ready to die instead of killing him; I refused to follow a dark path as he once did.
    Luke in this trilogy: I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future.
    Yeah fuck this. Mark Hamill tried to warn us.

    • @thanos_6.0
      @thanos_6.0 2 роки тому +18

      I can't possibly understand how people can defend Luke in TLJ

    • @edgarjacksby1402
      @edgarjacksby1402 2 роки тому

      He was never going to. Watch it again.

    • @edgarjacksby1402
      @edgarjacksby1402 2 роки тому

      @@flynncarter229 then he stopped

  • @charlinethom1624
    @charlinethom1624 4 роки тому +733

    When you realize Kylo's entire arc could've been stopped if only grandpa Ani bothered to show up for a quick chat with his grandson and hit him with the truth bomb of what's going on...

    • @rashaadsreign
      @rashaadsreign 4 роки тому +18

      I mean he knows Anakin turned to the light of his own free will because of love (for his wife and son) in TLJ novelization. He saw it as a weakness.

    • @charlinethom1624
      @charlinethom1624 4 роки тому +22

      @@rashaadsreign I'm talking more about the voices in his head pushing him on which he thought was Vader, but wasn't.

    • @PrinceZappa
      @PrinceZappa 4 роки тому +4

      He had Luke, Han and Leia to explain all that.

    • @rashaadsreign
      @rashaadsreign 4 роки тому +55

      @@charlinethom1624 That is true. Only reason I can see is that Force Ghosts have gotten weak- **Yoda uses Force Lightning** Nvm, its just bad writing.

    • @charlinethom1624
      @charlinethom1624 4 роки тому

      @@rashaadsreign yea

  • @itstoastytime3759
    @itstoastytime3759 4 роки тому +848

    They wasted so many characters. Finn, Phasma, Ren, Poe, there’s just too many.

    • @politicallycorrectredskin796
      @politicallycorrectredskin796 4 роки тому +58

      They just had no idea how to develop characters over time. All the characters were props, frozen in time after having been initially thought out. And the start of the characters in TFA wasn't that bad for the most part. Even Rey had a lot to like. I didn't despise that character until I realized that they had made her already perfect. Like the others she never had any character development after that. Like a god she just floated through the remaining movies unchanging. SO BORING!
      The only "development" after that were the endless retcons. Finn was straight. Then he was gay. And then he was possibly straight again. Not because any of that nonsense made any sense in the story, but because the idiots writing it were trying to figure out if the audience was "ready for gay lovin' in Star Wars". The same crap went on with all the other characters, and nothing was even remotely organic or story driven. Focus groups, moronic identity politics and silly fads drove the project over a cliff. it is by far the most misguided movie trilogy anyone has ever made.

    • @devindykstra
      @devindykstra 4 роки тому +43

      I genuinely forgot about Phasma... I'm sad now

    • @josephstalin7350
      @josephstalin7350 4 роки тому +14

      Hux snoke

    • @archstanton9073
      @archstanton9073 4 роки тому +16

      @@politicallycorrectredskin796 Finn was never gay.

    • @politicallycorrectredskin796
      @politicallycorrectredskin796 4 роки тому +13

      @@@archstanton9073 Oh yes he was. They were gauging the audience response after they teased it with the Poe/ Finn hug. But they chickened out and he just shouted Rey's name a few times like a special needs kid in the last movie. If he couldn't be gay he would have to be nothing apparently.

  • @popcultureinc.853
    @popcultureinc.853 4 роки тому +1895

    Even when the writing was shit Adam Driver did his best to elevate the character, something the other actors weren’t even able to do

    • @Dunkleosteusenjoyer
      @Dunkleosteusenjoyer 4 роки тому +245

      Much like Hayden Christensen, he'll forever get shit when he was the only one trying in some of his scenes.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +194

      I'd say that Oscar Isaac did his best to elevate Poe, at least in the first two movies. He was the only character in TLJ that was actually making sense until the last part of the film.

    • @jamiegreyy
      @jamiegreyy 4 роки тому +123

      Honestly, the worst culprit is Daisy Ridley. She's just awful. Awful actress.

    • @bobw1678
      @bobw1678 4 роки тому +108

      @@jamiegreyy Agreed. 90% of her "acting" was her looking confused, or various degrees of grimacing and showing her teeth. Which is fine for a side character, she's pleasant enough to look at and ok to listen to, long as she doesnt talk much. But the moment she starts trying to, you know, ACT....the phrase "high school drama club" comes to mind.

    • @siegel947
      @siegel947 4 роки тому +15

      remember Chewbacca grunts BB bleep screech
      R2 D2 bleep
      greatest take of these Skywalker saga

  • @prettyboyg1278
    @prettyboyg1278 4 роки тому +411

    Downfall of Kylos character:
    1. Shipping him with Rey
    2. Him sparing Leia *after* killing Han
    3. His "Redemption" arc

    • @shadow-squid4872
      @shadow-squid4872 4 роки тому +52

      Cas ual Don't forget being beaten by Rey in the very first movie and every other time they fought...

    • @prettyboyg1278
      @prettyboyg1278 4 роки тому +22

      @@shadow-squid4872 I think it was still fine in TFA because he was atleast injured and I thought he would go full darkside badass in the next movies, beating her ass. But whats even worse is the fact that, everytime hes trying to save rey, hes ending up to be the one being rescued by her..

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 4 роки тому +12

      Tbh I didn’t mind his redemption arc cause I knew it was coming, but I agree him being with Rey was terrible, i wish they had more of a sibling relationship than a romantic one, like Luke and Leia or even Anakin and Obi Wan

    • @DeadKraken
      @DeadKraken 4 роки тому +21

      @@impulse5674 Same, but I could have accepted the Reylo shit if they built it properly. You cannot have him try to kill her 3 times in the same movie where she deepthroats his tongue. His redemption arc should've taken at least one more movie, they should've kept him alive, make him pay for his crimes and redeem himself, and then maybe get with Rey.

    • @KidaMilo89
      @KidaMilo89 4 роки тому +14

      I was ok with him being redeemed but the way it happened was stupid. I wish Rey turned evil, he turned back to the light and killed her.

  • @salizar2074
    @salizar2074 4 роки тому +85

    Adam Driver carried the sequels, but even he couldn’t save all that shit

  • @lancecurry7538
    @lancecurry7538 4 роки тому +547

    *DISNEY'S SEQUELS:* Look how old you've become.
    *PREQUEL TRILOGY:* Something far worse has happened to you.

  • @fetakdusan9409
    @fetakdusan9409 4 роки тому +989

    I feel like they wanted a character like zuko from avatar but they forgot to write him in interesting way :)

  • @Vacreal9694
    @Vacreal9694 2 роки тому +55

    0:55
    I don't know why, but Rey asking if Kylo could put on a shirt and Kylo just staring blankly at her is the funniest shit I've seen all day today. And I'm 100% sure the hilarity was unintentional.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Рік тому +2

      The high waist on those pants Kylo is wearing is funny by itself.

  • @sonicgem9122
    @sonicgem9122 4 роки тому +93

    Sequel Trilogy characters in a Nutshell
    Poe: Boring side character
    Finn: Not funny side character (that realy should be the main protagonist)
    Rey: Mary Sue
    Kylo Ren (Ben Swolo) : Emo teenager that has problems with anger
    Snoke: Villain on the chair that does nothing besides saying stuff

    • @sonicgem9122
      @sonicgem9122 4 роки тому

      @Shillyvk Sshilly yes. Yes he had but still

    • @conman1111
      @conman1111 3 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @lxrd_vxdr
      @lxrd_vxdr 2 роки тому +3

      And Poe and Finn honestly got pretty annoying in TROS (and Rey was constantly annoying with how overpowered she was, and taking everything from the Skywalker Legacy, from the lightsaber, to the X-wing, to the home on Tatooine, and to the name)

  • @theanimeslayer3999
    @theanimeslayer3999 4 роки тому +653

    Kylo is a waste of potential, he had the look but everything else is awful. He is evil because of plot, he choose his own path instead
    of his family, no sympathetic traits or motivation behind his actions.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +45

      I'm not even sure about wasted potential. Waste of a good actor, sure, but even in TFA, he seemed like a bad knockoff of Zuko from Avatar: the Last Airbender.
      The anger issues, the sheer determination, the inferiority complex and desperation to please his superior (his abusive dad in Zuko's case, Snoke in Kylo's case), it was uncanny. But Zuko actually earned those traits: his characterization made sense and, while lacking in power, he was still a good antagonist through cunning, resourcefulness, and learning from his mistakes by not underestimating Aang.

    • @zechariahalanoly699
      @zechariahalanoly699 4 роки тому +30

      this whole trilogy was a waste of potential

    • @DaScorpionSting
      @DaScorpionSting 4 роки тому +14

      I like his lightsaber and the look with the mask on but everything else nope.

    • @superomegaprimemk2
      @superomegaprimemk2 4 роки тому +10

      The whole Trilogy was wasted potential, started out well enough but quickly went downhill as bad writing, lack of planning and poor oversight took hold, its no wonder people proclaim its not cannon, it undoes everything estalished in the original trilogy and makes a HUGE mess that never got fixed!

    • @kingbash6466
      @kingbash6466 4 роки тому +9

      Maybe it’s just me, but they really needed to keep him in that helmet because Adam Driver, while a good actor, is not intimidating in the slightest. I always laugh when he looks pissed up and just hammers in how Kylo just looks like a whiny edgylord.

  • @crossbones116
    @crossbones116 4 роки тому +364

    When people confuse 'inconsistent' for 'complex' you get Kyle.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +20

      Nah Kyle Katarn is a consistent character and a living legend. Fun Fact the Death Star was built because Palpatine couldn't get Kyle Katarn to work for him.

    • @crossbones116
      @crossbones116 4 роки тому +10

      @@emberfist8347 I'm talkin' Kyle Ben though. And his Monster Energy powered lightsaber.

    • @charmandyorton006
      @charmandyorton006 4 роки тому +29

      Sequel defenders just confuse “inconsistent” for “fleshed-out characters with motivations and personalities” anyway

    • @jagtech490
      @jagtech490 4 роки тому +3

      crossbones116 you mean Kylo

    • @AlexRazorGame
      @AlexRazorGame 4 роки тому +1

      @@emberfist8347 He's like a Star Wars version of Chuck Norris lol
      But.. he was a stormtrooper, as I remember...

  • @Arcilios
    @Arcilios 4 роки тому +620

    Sebulba was a better villain than Kylo.

    • @shitstainman8231
      @shitstainman8231 4 роки тому +77

      I just realized I had more thrill in the young Anakin racing Sebulba scene then I did for the whole ST.
      God.

    • @MajorReynolds92
      @MajorReynolds92 4 роки тому +22

      @@shitstainman8231 being better than the sequels isn't hard to accomplish to be fair :P

    • @Stigmatainmypants
      @Stigmatainmypants 4 роки тому +19

      Jedi Poodoo.

    • @Smr-yc5ye
      @Smr-yc5ye 4 роки тому +10

      Echuta!

    • @Сайтамен
      @Сайтамен 4 роки тому +12

      Interesting fact: Sebulba was in Jabba's castle in Return of the Jedi.

  • @stfuplease1051
    @stfuplease1051 4 роки тому +2677

    Darth Vader:
    - Manipulated by Emperor
    - betrayed by Jedi Order
    - nearly killed by his master
    - lived as a slave
    - saw his mother die
    - lived without a father
    Kylo Ren:
    got emo lol

    • @spex4714
      @spex4714 4 роки тому +221

      MaxRoto and was kept in a state of constant pain for 23 years

    • @stfuplease1051
      @stfuplease1051 4 роки тому +29

      @@spex4714 True

    • @sacredbeastzenon
      @sacredbeastzenon 4 роки тому +42

      MaxRoto
      I would say Anakin betrayed the Jedi.

    • @stfuplease1051
      @stfuplease1051 4 роки тому +109

      @@sacredbeastzenon Yes, but Jedi Order was corrupted, and he was basically a slave

    • @gdtacos7082
      @gdtacos7082 4 роки тому +7

      He killed his dad....

  • @stardustskywalker7327
    @stardustskywalker7327 4 роки тому +178

    “Boring perfection”, that sums Rey up in two words 🤣 (actually Kylo did have a line at the end “ow”...

    • @denisestout4585
      @denisestout4585 4 роки тому +11

      Stardust Skywalker that’s right! Ow there’s a famous last word for you

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 4 роки тому +4

      Darth Vader's last words: You were right. You were right about me. Tell your sister you were right.
      Kylo Ren's last word: Ow.
      One's a father proud that his son saw the good in him and expressing that pride before he dies. The other's a whiny manchild crying in pain.

    • @conman1111
      @conman1111 3 роки тому +4

      The original Luke was similar but he actually had a personality and would actually lose fights. Rey could have a fucking nuke set next to her and she'd still somehow squeak out of it. I firmly believe that there is literally NOTHING in star wars that could possibly defeat or corrupt Rey. She has the best ability in the universe, unfortunately it's nothing creative just plot armor to the highest degree.

  • @kublai3068
    @kublai3068 4 роки тому +98

    One thing I was always dissapointed about was that they revealed what Kylo looked like too early.
    When he takes his helmet off for the first time should have been when his father asks him to remove it, and we see the real, scared, unsure Ben Solo underneath. But then after he kills Han, he replaces his helmet and resumes being Kylo Ren.
    The removal of his helmet at ONLY key dramatic points in the series could have really lent his character a bit more mystery, I think.

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 4 роки тому +6

      Totally agree with you

    • @Drawnartist
      @Drawnartist 2 роки тому +3

      I completely agree. Always hated that they did that

  • @americancynic
    @americancynic 4 роки тому +437

    “Luckily it’s the end of the world so forever will be quick”

  • @germanboy4071
    @germanboy4071 4 роки тому +326

    a cough of general grievous is deeper than kylo ren

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +22

      @Dr. Me Nah even when he first appeared he was a better villain than Kylo.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +24

      General Grievous was badass and downright terrifying in the original Clone Wars micro-series. In that one, he took on seven Jedi, including a master, and emerged victorious through cunning, psychological warfare, and basically treating the fight more like a hunt. He was scary. Kylo wouldn't last ten seconds against Clone Wars Grievous.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +1

      @@emberfist8347 Which first appearance are you referring to? The Star Wars: Clone Wars micro-series (where he was badass and terrifying) or Revenge of the Sith?

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +10

      @@matthewmuir8884 Both really could apply. He put up really good fight in Revenge of the Sith too.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +5

      @@emberfist8347 True, and I especially like how the Clone Wars micro-series gave his ROTS fight added context by showing that he was crippled during the Battle of Coruscant, meaning he was likely still crippled during his fight with Obi-Wan. With no Force powers, and while crippled, he put up a good fight against Obi-Wan in his prime! That's impressive.
      Then The Clone Wars cartoon had to go and retcon everything about Grievous...

  • @synlion
    @synlion 4 роки тому +157

    More Robot Head dismantling Star Wars. Mmm yum yum.

    • @MegamanZXOmega
      @MegamanZXOmega 4 роки тому +2

      More Robot Head dismantling the sequel trilogy, you mean.

    • @Alresu
      @Alresu 4 роки тому +1

      @@MegamanZXOmega Agreed. That's no Star Wars. It's a damnation.

    • @danielmonroe6839
      @danielmonroe6839 4 роки тому +1

      Disney’s Star Wars

  • @StuffdPup
    @StuffdPup 4 роки тому +175

    Even through all of this, I still enjoy Kylo the most when watching the movies. Despite the poor writing, he's still got more personality than.... literally all the other characters.
    (I know, shocking, the guy with a Kylo pfp likes Kylo?)

    • @conman1111
      @conman1111 3 роки тому +11

      I mean fair enough, he was silly but at least some of his scenes where a little interesting

    • @andreasobama9487
      @andreasobama9487 3 роки тому +25

      i feel like an angry and unstable teen trying to live up to his grandpas legacy and prove himself is interesting of they had done it well enough
      instead they made him chase some b across the galaxy for an entire movie
      simp

    • @thanos_6.0
      @thanos_6.0 2 роки тому +11

      That's probably because of Adam Drivers brilliant performance.
      But I agree he his without a doubt the best character from the ST, not that this has to say much when you look at the other characters.

    • @thedictationofallah
      @thedictationofallah 2 роки тому +3

      i hate the sequels and every aspect of it

    • @the-point-bearer6689
      @the-point-bearer6689 2 роки тому +1

      Jacen Solo is a far better concept and a better character than that Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader wannabe of a pushover ever was.

  • @FlexibleToast
    @FlexibleToast 4 роки тому +205

    Totally agree, Kylo's introduction was awesome. Him freezing that blaster bolt was some crazy strong force using, at the time anyway. Then they immediately trashed his character. Yet somehow Adam Driver's acting was still the best thing the entire series had to offer.

    • @daverobson3084
      @daverobson3084 Рік тому +1

      Do you forget the Porgs so easily?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast Рік тому +5

      @@daverobson3084 yes

    • @daverobson3084
      @daverobson3084 Рік тому

      @@FlexibleToast
      Lucky duck.

    • @jeffw8218
      @jeffw8218 Рік тому +2

      Even Vader couldn’t stop blaster shots, he had to use his hands/gloves to block them.
      So they made Kylo way over-powered from the start.
      No one involved was intelligent enough to create a new Star Wars trilogy that made sense.

  • @samhope2944
    @samhope2944 4 роки тому +241

    Disney Ruined Star Wars

    • @Arcilios
      @Arcilios 4 роки тому +26

      Disney decimated star wars and then crapped on the audience when they didnt like it and told them how to feel about it or they were sent vitriol. It's ridiculous what Disney did to this series. Disgusting.

    • @bryanneideffer3969
      @bryanneideffer3969 4 роки тому +9

      The 3 films were an atrocity no wait an abomination to Star Wars!

    • @jamesbolton-mason5895
      @jamesbolton-mason5895 4 роки тому +3

      No shit sherlock

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +13

      @Dr. Me No you shut the fuck up. They made a bad movie and their attempts to appease everyone failed horribly. We were not asking for Palpatine to come back or for Reylo to be a thing.

    • @m1a2sepv39
      @m1a2sepv39 4 роки тому

      Dr. Me But they did... New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, And Return of the jedi. Great movies, All made by George Lucas, Phantom Menace, Attack of the clones, and Revenge of the sith, just remove the love story, annoying a Anakin moods sometimes and some others and good movies again, Made by george, Disney strolls up and makes 5 movies. Solo (Shit no one wanted that movie anyways) Force awakens, 3/10 Some good clips, Last jedi, Full Shit Show, And yes. Rise of Sky walker, a fucking embarrassing. This had to go though many people and they all said Yea this is good. And all made by disney. So Yes my friends. Disney fucked up star wars. Expect 1 Movie, Rouge One. Great Movie. Let's now forget. Star Wars Rebels, And of course The Mandalorian, Shitty shows. So I love like 3 Disney movies... But they don't deserve Star Wars. They are not good enough. So Disney, Fuck You. You feminist Dumb asses.

  • @wander7418
    @wander7418 4 роки тому +173

    The movies feel like a robot chicken short

    • @Alresu
      @Alresu 4 роки тому

      Ho superficial! Not all robots are the same!

    • @ezyawn3161
      @ezyawn3161 4 роки тому +14

      Nah robot chicken is way better

    • @designergravy1669
      @designergravy1669 4 роки тому +9

      Wrong robot chicken is funny and makes me want some of there shorts to be canon

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro 4 роки тому +7

      Robot chicken shows more respect and understanding for the franchise...

    • @Ruben-to9yk
      @Ruben-to9yk 4 роки тому +2

      Except the Robot Chicken version is worth watching as a SW fan and actually want to remember it.

  • @MetalCreep
    @MetalCreep 4 роки тому +152

    Disney: "Oh... the villain/ hero has a helmet? Make him not using it during 4/5 of the film."

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 4 роки тому +16

      MetalCreep why does he even have it?
      Darth Vader needed his to breath

    • @MetalCreep
      @MetalCreep 4 роки тому +7

      @@firenze6478 Swag! 🤣

    • @emperornero2902
      @emperornero2902 3 роки тому +1

      Also Disney: "oh yeah lets have him smash it into bits before the entire ship explodes, for dramatic effect."
      Also Disney: "shit we need that helmet back..... USE THE FORCE!"

    • @conman1111
      @conman1111 3 роки тому

      The worst part is that the helmet would atleast have given Kylo a bit more of a cool factor

  • @patricklush4363
    @patricklush4363 4 роки тому +24

    Really would’ve been more interesting if Kylo was the one who survived. Imagine the looks on all of the Rebels’ faces when Red 5 lands, they think Rey is gonna greet them, and out climbs Kylo.

    • @fernfern9183
      @fernfern9183 4 роки тому +4

      I don't think he would go to the rebels if he survived. He was not that stupid.

    • @patricklush4363
      @patricklush4363 4 роки тому +1

      fern fern Based on all of his actions across the three films, I’m inclined to disagree.

    • @fernfern9183
      @fernfern9183 4 роки тому +1

      @@patricklush4363 you think he'd go to the rebels so that they killed him on the spot?

    • @patricklush4363
      @patricklush4363 4 роки тому +2

      fern fern It was more a joke about his general stupidity, not his genuine in trust in the Resistance.

  • @jordz6795
    @jordz6795 4 роки тому +76

    I grew up during the Prequel Trilogy Era. I remember seeing Star Wars merchandise everywhere on store shelves, not so much these days. Disney have actually killed Star Wars for the newer generations.

    • @thanos_6.0
      @thanos_6.0 2 роки тому +6

      Thats because they got themselves some serious competition with the MCU.
      They had one chance with ST and they completely blew it.

    • @agent3689
      @agent3689 2 роки тому +4

      @@thanos_6.0 And now they're scrambling to wipe it up with all of these live action tv series.

  • @wlfmanjack
    @wlfmanjack 4 роки тому +329

    Kylo Ren was already a huge disappointment in the first movie and just kept getting worse every film after that

    • @Stinker4583
      @Stinker4583 4 роки тому +55

      And yet he's the best character in the sequels, cuz the others are somehow even worse.

    • @CaligulaInvictus
      @CaligulaInvictus 4 роки тому +23

      Yeah he started like a bad ass, but then he took off his mask. The whole series went down hill from that point.

    • @dainadossantos5122
      @dainadossantos5122 4 роки тому +28

      Very true. He was at first shown to be powerful (stopped laser) and intimidating. Then he throws a tantrum which undermined his control and power...and the mask should have been only taken off for Han Solo, not for Rey's interrogation.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +13

      I completely agree. I honestly didn't get why so many people liked Kylo Ren so much after TFA; to me, he seemed like a cheap knockoff of Zuko from Avatar: the Last Airbender.
      Think about it: the anger issues, the determination, the inferiority complex and the desperation to please their superior. Only, with Zuko, all of that stuff made sense! His motivations were clear, and he compensated for his lack of power with cunning, resourcefulness, and being the only antagonist to learn from his mistakes and not underestimate Aang.

    • @thisisfyne
      @thisisfyne 4 роки тому +1

      @@dainadossantos5122 100% agreed. Especially since when he removed his mask in front of Rey, the scene was shot as if it was going to be some sort of big reveal, but it had no impact at all; Rey didn't know how to react, and neither did we (the audience).

  • @invadepoland8059
    @invadepoland8059 4 роки тому +321

    Ugh .. It’s even worse when you know how much adam driver is a talented actor... probably the only one in the new cast of the sq alongside oscar isaac.

    • @st4ne4rmthevill63
      @st4ne4rmthevill63 4 роки тому +15

      Dont forget the guy that played Captain Canady in TLJ. His like 1min of screen time was better then almost all the villains in Disney Star Wars.

    • @archstanton9073
      @archstanton9073 4 роки тому +18

      @@st4ne4rmthevill63 The guy who decided to fire on the empty Rebel base rather than at the capital ships in the middle of evacuating the now-empty base?

    • @crlclssic
      @crlclssic 4 роки тому +2

      Right! He is legit awesome but what he had to do for this role is just sad

    • @taz3810
      @taz3810 4 роки тому +8

      Domhnall Gleeson is good too ... Hux is terrible despite the screentime

    • @alejandrovillalba3143
      @alejandrovillalba3143 4 роки тому +21

      Hey!!!No one plays the part of a corpse better than Daisy Ridley. She is a very talented dead body

  • @mirage1878
    @mirage1878 4 роки тому +91

    Nevertheless Kylo is still the best thing about sequel trilogy. Mostly because of Adam Driver

    • @-CrimsoN-
      @-CrimsoN- 3 роки тому +3

      @@taylorjeremy71 Better than Daisy fucking Ridley

    • @thanos_6.0
      @thanos_6.0 2 роки тому +4

      I agree Adam did a great job. The rest of the cast also did a good performance, they really deserved better.

  • @matthewphelps5136
    @matthewphelps5136 4 роки тому +53

    This trilogy was a train wreck, not a car crash.

    • @antiquecardboard
      @antiquecardboard 3 роки тому +1

      Nah, more like a cruise ship running full speed into the harbor master building and the T-Rex escaping into the city after eating the whole crew.

  • @itz_aimann6605
    @itz_aimann6605 4 роки тому +32

    I remember the day when the force awakens trailer came out, me and my grand father were really happy. We even had a star wars celebration party. But he passed away before the last Jedi came out RIP. But I'm really happy he didn't see this shit he would be disappointed since he watched from his whole life.

  • @DrViperVideos
    @DrViperVideos 4 роки тому +160

    I remember in TFA when the villian takes off his helmet, my friend mumbled a gasp of excitment, then oh...
    That oh.. summed it up. Hes some young, long haired angry teen? Oh god, this wont be a good villian.

    • @VideoAmericanStyle
      @VideoAmericanStyle 4 роки тому +21

      DrViperVideos Played by a well-known dramatic actor in his 30s.
      Kylo could have been played by some unknown, rising star in a career defining moment who we could form a bond with as his complex character took shape.
      Instead, we got one of the worst cases of miscasting of a legitimately talented actor in recent history.

    • @ogcipher4967
      @ogcipher4967 4 роки тому +37

      People started laughing in my theater. Everyone was expecting some intimidating looking motherfucker and we got Kailo.

    • @TrenchantAtheist
      @TrenchantAtheist 4 роки тому +11

      @Ebiegberi Adonkie For me it was less the face and more the salon hair; he took off his mask and instead of "helmet hair", he had a giant mane like he was trying to be Samurai Cop. If they had gone with a more "son of Satan" look instead of "boy band audition", he could have at least been a more believable menace, even if it was Happy Meal sized.
      Edit: Oh, case in point - the scene in ROS where he's drenched, he looks a lot less delicate.

    • @tsopmocful1958
      @tsopmocful1958 4 роки тому +3

      @DANK Yep, he looked soft as shite.

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 4 роки тому +2

      VideoAmericanStyle the sequels aren’t very good Star Wars movies, if Kylo was played by a new actor he probably would’ve been harassed by Star Wars fans

  • @Logan711011
    @Logan711011 4 роки тому +377

    Kylo Ren: Having nightmares as a Jedi
    Snoke: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @slicedlemons5925
      @slicedlemons5925 4 роки тому

      Louis Chen Ryan Johnson: “no I’m boutta end yours”

    • @TeaKiwi
      @TeaKiwi 4 роки тому +3

      You mean start

  • @redmoon03
    @redmoon03 4 роки тому +471

    I can't believe there are people who actually like the sequel....How did they even survive modern society with a brain like that?

    • @bryanneideffer3969
      @bryanneideffer3969 4 роки тому +52

      Modern society is nothing it used to be, Common sense is rare, Soy boys SJW's The Woke empire which destroys everything it touches and is a disease! Oh and those shameful places of Hollywood and " cough " Disney all has come to much ruin.

    • @VideoAmericanStyle
      @VideoAmericanStyle 4 роки тому +29

      Bryan Neideffer Nah, I don’t buy into that silly misplaced nostalgia. Society has always been filled with mostly uninformed, conformist types who follow the herd. The modern era is no different.

    • @liammerc4129
      @liammerc4129 4 роки тому +10

      Some people even see the special effects and good visuals of the films and are so blind that they are automatically sold into thinking its a good movie

    • @Killerbee4712
      @Killerbee4712 4 роки тому +3

      @@bryanneideffer3969 Did you just cough though?
      send him to the concentration ca- i mean, quarantines!

    • @jakubrejak1114
      @jakubrejak1114 4 роки тому +4

      Oh please, don't be such an edgelord. People like the sequels based on how they interpret them. I like the sequels for showing an amazing bond between Rey and Ren, Finn's rebellious character and underlying themes in the Last Jedi, just to name a few.

  • @harryguidotti3815
    @harryguidotti3815 4 роки тому +23

    I really feel bad for John and Adam. Their characters had such vast amounts of potential, but not only did they take a backseat to a character who was given everything in a Platinum Platter, but they were left in the dust.

  • @DanieleMulas-up7np
    @DanieleMulas-up7np 4 роки тому +11

    Expanded Universe had Jacen Solo, a smart, peaceful kid who seeked nothing but communion and knowledge of the Force, trained with his sibling Jaina and Anakin, met many friends at Luke's Jedi Praexeum on Yavin 4, including his love, but was then forced into a war with extra galactic aliens. They killed his little brother and countless friends, they captured and tortured him, and when the war ended, he had visions of a dark man corrupting his daughter (yes, the New Jedi can have family in the EU), so he was seduced to the Dark Side by a former Imperial agent, Lumiya, and spent 5 years studying EVERY Force using discipline and Force powers in the Galaxy, with the intent of preventing this dark future. He slained his aunt, Mara Jade, Luke's wife, tries to turn their kid to his cause (which made him completely livid and killed Lumiya thinking she was the culprit), took over the galactic government and became *Darth Caedus* : It took his equally powerful twin sister, Jaina Solo, to stop him, and even then, Jacen/Caedus died saving his wife and daughter. Also, Caedus DID not idolize Vader, he pitied him, as he used one of his new powers to see his downfall to the Dark Side.
    Disney canon gave us Ben Swolo, an aloof kid, whose parents neglected him and trash talked him behind his back whenever he had an episode (Han saying he could have become a monster), kept away the truth about his heritage, then sent him away to an uncle who never really treated him lovingly but more like a prize. All while little Ben is telepathically groomed by Snoke, into harboring resentment for both his parents and for Luke being more interested in trash digging Jedi heirlooms. Then one night Luke tries to kill him because he "felt darkness", he finds out from the holonews that mother was Vader's daughter, blows up the Jedi Temple in a Force bitch fit (yep, that's how it happened, you can check The Rise Of Kylo Ren comics to see for yourself), goes to Snoke to cry about it, joins the Knights Who Screech Ree (who are confirmed to be just a bunch of no name thugs from the Unknown Regions and poor connection to the Force), kills the last remaining weakling Jedi initiate, and then becomes Crylo, officially, for about 6-7 years. First he's a pathetic Vader wannabe with daddy issues. After Snoke lectures him on how much he sucks, he turns into a nihilistic manchild that just wants to burn everything. And finally, he turns into a somewhat less whiny Vader wannabe, but ultimately still fails.
    Which one seems more interesting, people ? The humble scholar turned PTSD suffering, morally grey schemer ? Or the neglected quiet kid turned nihilistic emo manchild ?

  • @Blizz3112
    @Blizz3112 4 роки тому +104

    "But sadly... I haven't been in a coma..."
    -- Robot Head, 2020

    • @ryaquaza3offical
      @ryaquaza3offical 4 роки тому +4

      Given what’s currently happening in the world, now wouldn’t actually be a bad time to be unconscious tbh

  • @dinoluka11
    @dinoluka11 4 роки тому +288

    Kylo is an embarrassment to sith everywhere and their legacy

    • @1greninjawolfbossdeath648
      @1greninjawolfbossdeath648 4 роки тому +10

      Even Darth Zhorrid was better than him. She was a failure who fought she could be as powerful as her father!

    • @eidechsentyp1236
      @eidechsentyp1236 4 роки тому +11

      Jep, look at the ones before him: Vader, Sidious or Tyrannus. Or if we start comparing him to the old ones like Revan, Nihilus or even Malgus, who argueably is a weaker character. They are all so far better, while many of them didn‘t come from a Multi-Million Dollar Flick but from videogames.

    • @1greninjawolfbossdeath648
      @1greninjawolfbossdeath648 4 роки тому +5

      @@eidechsentyp1236 I like Malgus. Like he almost started his own empire!

    • @Nightlightknight
      @Nightlightknight 4 роки тому +2

      Normally Adam Driver is such a good actor, not in this. In this he was cringeworthy, and the main reason I did not care enough to watch the Fall of Skywalker.

    • @bryanneideffer3969
      @bryanneideffer3969 4 роки тому +6

      After the Farce Awakens I personally was disgusted with him getting beat so badly by the Mary Sue..expected so much more from a so called " Sith " warrior ". Sidous Maul Dokoo Vader, and Lord Helmet would be laughing!

  • @maximthefox
    @maximthefox 4 роки тому +43

    You have the exact right voice for a guy who's ruthlessly mocking something. I kind of wanna hear you brutally insult my entire existence.

  • @RageMage120
    @RageMage120 4 роки тому +121

    Force Awakens: He’s ok
    Last Jedi: He is just angry for “reasons”
    Rise Of Skywalker: I couldn’t catch a second to think from all the stupidity going on

  • @pixelpotato4874
    @pixelpotato4874 4 роки тому +33

    The Sith would be looking at Kylo:
    "Somebody find this guy's pacifier..."

  • @thecelestial4021
    @thecelestial4021 4 роки тому +491

    How come for 6 movies it’s “You can’t kill it’s not the Jedi way” Rey: “Lol stop me”

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +60

      I thought it was killing an opponent that can't fight back that's not the Jedi way? They seem perfectly fine with killing during war or in self-defence in both the OT and the Prequels.

    • @MegamanZXOmega
      @MegamanZXOmega 4 роки тому +30

      Yeah, it's not kill an opponent who can't fight back, but even then let's not forget that Rey knows next to NOTHING about how the Jedi are like.

    • @jagtech490
      @jagtech490 4 роки тому +6

      MZX Omega also question about the Jedi use the force for knowledge and defense quote yoda says.Isn’t the defense as in defense of others like to fight for the weak because they are guardians.I bring this up because last Jedi defenders being up the scene where luke transmits a force vision of himself and doesn’t actually fight kylo.They say that this is a perfect example of what a Jedi would do

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, they didn't even hesitate to decapitate Jango Fett. He was killing Jedi and firing his guns like mad, it's not like Samuel L Jackson is just going to take him prisoner like some wimp.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +6

      @@Edax_Royeaux That said, one thing about the Prequels was that the Jedi, including Windu, had lost their way, and I believe that, in Legends canon, he came to regret decapitating Fett instead of disarming him and taking him in alive, as by the time he killed Fett, Fett couldn't really fight back. But I could be wrong, as I haven't read one bit of Legends canon.

  • @americancynic
    @americancynic 4 роки тому +53

    1:26 Just look at how much contempt Kathleen looks at George with. I mean how could we possibly expect to get anything good from that

    • @archstanton9073
      @archstanton9073 4 роки тому +3

      She's been biding her time for the last 30+ years by cozying up to nerdlingers Lucas and Spielberg. That's a lot of contempt built up over those years. If Rick McCallum wasn't such a douchey yes man, he'd probably be the one running the show.

    • @Z95HeadHunter
      @Z95HeadHunter 4 роки тому +6

      She's a more compelling villain than any of the Sequel Trilogy villains.

  • @Zelein
    @Zelein 4 роки тому +52

    Imagine what Adam Driver would have done with a decent character and a sliver of good writing. It could have been so good, but alas a great actor can't fix poor writing
    For anyone needing to redeem him as an actor, go watch Marriage Story. It's fucking phenomenal and he completely knocks it out of the park.

    • @ethancoster1324
      @ethancoster1324 4 роки тому +2

      They could've merged his character with Darth Krayt.
      Would've seagwayed into the Yuzong Vong storyline.
      Or perhaps, heaven forbid, they could've made him Caedus. His descent to the darkside might well have therefore been a product of Yuzong Vong prescience.

  • @wesleyfravel5149
    @wesleyfravel5149 4 роки тому +37

    At first I thought “OK, so Kylo is going to try to be his father, realize this isn’t what he wanted, and go good or say screw it and take top place.” Problem is, when he got to the top he was a whiny baby, and his redemption felt rushed.

    • @wesleyfravel5149
      @wesleyfravel5149 3 роки тому +1

      @Bancho Batchoy they are less there for quotes and more this is what I am saying. Like how they are used a lot in books.

  • @rebekah.2187
    @rebekah.2187 2 роки тому +15

    According to the timeline on Wookiepedia, Ben was 10 when he went to train with Luke. According to Leia's dialogue in The Force Awakens, it was when Ben left to train with Luke that she lost both Ben and Han. So, if Han was with his family until Ben left for training, where did the "deadbeat dad" story come from? How can you not be there for your son, if your son isn't there?
    You are right. Kylo Ren was great in the beginning. I thought the character had a lot of potential. I think they just didn't know what to do with him any more than they knew what to do with any of the other characters. Their big mistake was not letting him just be a bad guy, like Vader was in the OT. No one questioned why Vader was a bad guy. He just was. We didn't see Vader struggling between the light and dark sides of the Force either, so there was no reason to question how he got to that place.
    They made things very messy by trying to tell Ben's story and Rey's at the same time, and they focused on the wrong one. Rey was a nobody who didn't have a story, so why waste time on her? Her biggest problem was that she didn't know who she was, because they didn't bother to give her any real backstory. She wasn't even smart enough to realize that, since she was marked, if she went back to Jakku, she'd be killed, or someone there would turn her in to the First Order for a pile of credits, or powdered food packets. Her Teflon-coated plot armor saved her from herself.

  • @m.torre0723
    @m.torre0723 4 роки тому +223

    Kylo Ren is probably the most disappointing star wars villain ever

    • @orionxx9998
      @orionxx9998 4 роки тому +23

      he was great until he lost the fight to Rey in force awakens. Still the best thing to come from the sequels though.

    • @LovingTinha
      @LovingTinha 4 роки тому +5

      At this point they could have turned Supergirl evil and it would have made just as much sense. At least a final fight between her and Kylo would have been something preferable, especially if they both ended up dying in the fight. Would have been perfect ending to an otherwise shit trilogy. And Palpatines ending somehow got worse than his last demise, how does that even happen? Only Disney

    • @DrViperVideos
      @DrViperVideos 4 роки тому +4

      Count dooku was pretty boring just bc he seemed too nice? He was a gentleman. But its christopher lee, so he automatically gets my praise. But ANYTHING over angry twilight teen boy

    • @Dino-god69
      @Dino-god69 4 роки тому +6

      DrViperVideos I personally thought it was interesting to have a villain that is questionable on the moral compass ya know? Maybe just me lol

    • @archstanton9073
      @archstanton9073 4 роки тому +1

      General Grievous was pretty disappointing.

  • @Turtle3000
    @Turtle3000 4 роки тому +102

    To Star Wars: “Look how they massacred my boy.”

  • @yeetimusprime3147
    @yeetimusprime3147 4 роки тому +63

    I do like the idea of a Darth Vader-esque character but much more unhinged and likely to lash out. But they leaned too much on the teenage-like angst that it just made Kylo seem bitchy.
    Tbh, what I would've done was instead of making Kylo Ren a wannabe Vader, have him be a sort of Hunter who's obsessed with collecting artefacts/objects of power. Instead of having him tied so close to the First Order have him be more of a loose cannon being given authority by Snoke, I like the idea of Kylo and the Knights of Ren being this sort of rogue group that operates outside First Order rules. Have his obsession be his main character flaw and show how far he's willing to go just to get power. It may be a bit generic to just have a character who seeks power but it'd be a hell of a lot better than what we got.

    • @gamersinacontainer
      @gamersinacontainer 4 роки тому +9

      I'd say that would be more refreshing actually. Not every villain needs to have complex motivations.

    • @cashthecurator666
      @cashthecurator666 4 роки тому +4

      I think that’s what Kylo was like in the first film. He doesn’t care about Snoke or his shitty Empire full of incompetent cunts. He cares about honoring the legacy of Vader, and by proxy the Sith.

    • @SyberianVG
      @SyberianVG 2 роки тому +2

      so basically Saren from Mass Effect

    • @vortexx3028
      @vortexx3028 2 роки тому +1

      you just described admiral thrawn

  • @aprcuulestdude9076
    @aprcuulestdude9076 4 роки тому +28

    *Luke is bad teacher*
    Kylo: “I’m going to do what’s called a pro-gamer move”

  • @NYCQuint
    @NYCQuint 4 роки тому +140

    “Carrie fisher died of a drug overdose... *which drug* - All of them”... Yeah Darth Columbine was a waste and this series was, as charles barkley would say, turrible

    • @andrewmoreno9414
      @andrewmoreno9414 4 роки тому +12

      Darth Columbine LOL

    • @archstanton9073
      @archstanton9073 4 роки тому

      @ÁNGEL GARCÍA PÉREZ She died of a heart attack likely brought on by all the drugs in her system and not just health related stuff.

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro 4 роки тому +7

      @@andrewmoreno9414 _"All the other younglings with the pumped up kicks, better run, better run, faster than my force lightning."_

    • @PrimoPete
      @PrimoPete 4 роки тому +3

      Some sjws keep pretending as if she died a virtuous death.

  • @dongxx
    @dongxx 4 роки тому +142

    Kylo himself spun his tie fighter in the most recent film, just like his grandpa did in all those dank memes.

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 4 роки тому +8

      The Insatiable Mr. Dong spinning is a good trick after all

    • @rooroo8767
      @rooroo8767 4 роки тому +3

      Now this is pod racing! Yippee!.....

  • @robfgard
    @robfgard 4 роки тому +46

    The other problem, other than age, with casting Driver to play Ren is old Marvel dilemma. You pay a well known actor to play a character that is wears a mask and inevitably the studio wants the mask to be removed. In Vader's case we caught a glimpse of him without the mask once in Empire and it just added to his mystique. We didn't see him again until the end of Return.
    With Ren he took the mask off for no reason in TFA, then he destroyed it in TLJ, put it back together in ROS only to not wear it that much. Very confusing as to why he ever had the mask to begin with and rather than adding to his mystique it took away from it.

    • @taylorjeremy71
      @taylorjeremy71 3 роки тому +4

      If Driver was half the actor his fans make him out to be he would have made the decision to keep the helmet on. Full method. Makes the most sense. He's not an actor he's just another Hollywood star.

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 2 роки тому +6

      The mask is just like the sequels:
      It gets removed and shows its clear inspiration from Episode 4 at first
      Then it completely destroys the franchise in Episode 8
      Only to desperately be repaired in episode 9 to fix Episode 8's dillema

  • @jamesstaggs4160
    @jamesstaggs4160 4 роки тому +13

    The biggest mistake they made with him is they had him take off his mask too early. Vader of course had an evil mystique because we never really got to see him without his mask until the end. Not so with Kylo. They totally wasted him as a villain like the did with Finn as a hero. Imagine this- Kylo doesn't take his mask off until he is face to face with his father, Han, on the bridge. Kylo takes it off when Han tries to reach him with words. They could lead us to think it could work, but Kylo turns away from Han, says something poignant, turns around, still kills his father, then puts the mask back on. He doesn't take it off until the end of the third film, as he's dying (preferably not killing Palpatine as he should never been brought back), maybe by killing Snoke in much the same way Vader killed Palpatine. Rey turns him to the light just like Luke did with Vader/Anakin. Lucas can have his whole "it's like poetry, they rhyme" thing and JJ could continue to rip off Lucas, but the whole thing in between wouldn't have sucked so much ass.
    Kylo should have left the damn mask on. You're right, the opening to the film was actually pretty damn good (although the whole map thing was pretty damn stupid), but Kylo was an awful villain the second we saw his face. This series didn't have a villain. Kylo wasn't it. Hux was turned into a literal joke, and they killed off Snoke in the second film (he was a shit villain anyways, he was a mystery in a bad way, we needed more information on him). No villain. This trilogy with the simplest of story structures was missing a key element. I just can't believe JJ, Rian, Kennedy and anybody involved with writing characterisation couldn't take all that cash they were paid and write one decent bad guy. None of them should ever be allowed anywhere near a movie, book or short story ever again. They're all terrible at the thing they got alot of money to do.

  • @Oscarzilla2004
    @Oscarzilla2004 4 роки тому +43

    Darth Vader is the best villain ever! Who cares about kylo

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +2

      Palpatine is the real best villain ever.

    • @ClingyCrab
      @ClingyCrab 4 роки тому +8

      @Blake Tyson
      I think you mean: “The Senate”

    • @jackhammer0101
      @jackhammer0101 4 роки тому

      @@emberfist8347 the puppet is always more interesting than the puppeteer.. Vader by a landslide

    • @Z95HeadHunter
      @Z95HeadHunter 4 роки тому +2

      @@emberfist8347 I LOVE Palpatine across the six films, but Vader takes villain to a new level of nuance. We got to see Vader in his young years as a hero in a slow gradual fall to the dark side, then knew he carried pain, and then rose back to the light side. A fall, suffering and a redemption. Whereas as far as we know Palpatine has always been evil.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому

      @@Z95HeadHunter That is what I love abut Palpatine he was born evil. I find more blatantly evil villains to be more interesting.

  • @NewbyTon
    @NewbyTon 4 роки тому +45

    I like the part where Adam Driver destroys everything and says the n word for no apparent reason

    • @dustinmaxwell259
      @dustinmaxwell259 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly when did that happen?

    • @Yimyimyimyim277
      @Yimyimyimyim277 4 роки тому

      Dustin Maxwell it’s in the directors cut

    • @dustinmaxwell259
      @dustinmaxwell259 4 роки тому +1

      @@Yimyimyimyim277 What "N" word did he say? I can tell you now, if it's the one that has to do with race, it shows just how depraved he writers have become. Star Wars characters , under Lucas' watch, were more human- centric. If there was any prejudice at play, it was always directed at the aliens. Sidious' empire turned aliens into 2nd/ 3rd class citizens + they were not allowed to join the military, unless there were special cases such as Thrawn. And only racist idiots find things like that to be funny. So well done Disney, Walt would be proud. Disney has officially returned to it's racist roots.

  • @agentcarter2219
    @agentcarter2219 4 роки тому +96

    He is not a villain...he is an emotional angst-ridden brat...villains have character

    • @samueljohnson9723
      @samueljohnson9723 4 роки тому +4

      Like Magneto. He has the most character of any villain

    • @RizwanAhmed-qi4ng
      @RizwanAhmed-qi4ng 4 роки тому +2

      Peggy

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 4 роки тому +13

      Just look at Zuko from Avatar: the Last Airbender. Both he and Kylo share in anger management issues, inferiority complex, desperation to please their villainous superior, and sheer determination. It was to the point where TFA Kylo seemed like a knockoff of Zuko to me at least. But Zuko actually earned those traits: his characterization made sense, and he was an extremely well-written tragic villain. His redemption arc; easily one of the best ever written if not the best, was just icing on the cake for an already great character.

    • @ShadowGodOfDarkness
      @ShadowGodOfDarkness 4 роки тому +3

      @@matthewmuir8884 best example ever! Never seen a better character arc than the banished prince.

    • @JerseyMcgee81
      @JerseyMcgee81 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly

  • @prezzyvcurrymuncher
    @prezzyvcurrymuncher 4 роки тому +22

    Don’t lie kylo carried the sequels

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 4 роки тому +5

      He did, but he could have been better

    • @taylorjeremy71
      @taylorjeremy71 3 роки тому

      How do you carry a movie that's terrible? It's a contradiction. It's like saying the Big Lebowski's rug pulled the room together.... it's a sty either way lol

    • @alexmuenster2102
      @alexmuenster2102 2 роки тому +1

      The character-that-could-have-been, the character for which Kylo was the placeholder, carried the sequels. We (the audience) were constantly expecting *that* character to finally "come to the fore" in Kylo. Sadly, he never did.

  • @Wally480
    @Wally480 4 роки тому +16

    Man, I still cant get over how naive I was back when Disney first acquired SW. I remember thinking to myself "The first Pirates movie was an instant classic. They've got this in the bag."
    How wrong I was 😞

  • @joth6745
    @joth6745 4 роки тому +79

    Hey Robot Head, you’re Objectively Wrong! Kylo does talk in the last hour, don’t you remember his spectacular line, “Ow”?
    That’s his final words, well word. Thanks Disney

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 4 роки тому +9

      Joe Sasso yes, delivered with perfect comic timing, inducing mood whiplash that must have broken the necks of everyone in the audience

    • @DeadKraken
      @DeadKraken 4 роки тому +5

      Omg such a deep, complex character! His final speech brought me to tears 😭👌

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 4 роки тому +2

      Famous last words of villains in Star Wars: "I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps, but never mine. And in the end, as darkness takes me, I am nothing." "So it is and so i shall Darth Sidious" "I am your biggest failure live with that and live with this" "No Jango come back damn you Fett come back finish me" "Which will it be bounty hunter? dead or alive? he is here" "No Impossible Peace Never I died for my people" "Come on then who will strike first and brand themselves a cold-blooded killer?" "And so you have betrayed me father" "If I can't have the information it will die with you" "I killed your father without pity or mercy" "Like you said only the strongest shall rule" "Brother, I am an unworthy apprentice I am not like you I never was" "So that's it. Just you and me the Boba Fett" "Army or not you must realize you are doomed." "There are some things far more frightening than death" "He will avenge us" "I serve the Empire till the end" "Save the Rebellion. Save the Dream" "I am one with the force and the force is with me." "You may fire when ready" "Now Young Skywalker, you will die" "You already have, Luke. You were right. You were right about me all along. tell your sister you were right" "But it was artistically done" "Why will you kill now Han Solo? Your only son?" "My vision my dream of the the One Sith will live" "Do you see it, my apprentice? Do you understand what you're destined to be?" "Ow." I notice a difference

  • @Arcilios
    @Arcilios 4 роки тому +46

    He was badass freezing blaster fire and menacing for like 10 minutes until the mask came off and then the spazzing and then the losing to Rey and the weak reason he fell. Just pathetic all around from Disney. It's really jarring to see. It's like the Mona Lisa finished off with giant gridded cartoon teeth and googly eyes.