Was the Ford Expedition a MISTAKE for Overlanding?!
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- In this video I go over some of the biggest issues and mistakes I have come across with our overlanding experience in the past 2ish years. And I answer the question of should we have committed to a Ford Expedition for our Overlanding platform.
If you're new to Overlanding hopefully you can get some beginner tips or advice to get you started !
Thanks for watching please comment below for any questions!
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I do love my 2019 Ford Expedition. I also made sure I had the higher 402A Limited package with the LED lights and the Heavy Duty Tow Package that give me the rear lockers and a 4A and 4L settings.
Question for you though... have you ever considered getting an Overlanding Trailer (i.e. Turtle Back, Patriot Campers) instead of outfitting the truck for a family of 5? We are a family of 4 right now and we will eventually do Overlanding stuff someday. Haha
Awesome! Yeah that's what you want right there. That heavy duty tow package gives you everything except for the skid plates I believe
Cool video. I run a 2005 Expedition and I love it. Because my kids are grown, and I'm now single; I've removed all back seats for various reasons - primarily to build a lower profile kitchen system that doubles as a sleeping platform, which has worked out great for my particular needs. I'm really diggin' the looks and functionality of your Expedition!
Awesome!! 💯 They are for sure a good platform, so much space !!
Nice build boss! I think the best takeaway when it comes to overlanding is it doesn't matter what you drive, it matters if it works for you. Jeep, truck, SUV, just get out there and enjoy it!
Absolutely!! Well said!
I also have an Expedition (2014 4WD). With 4 kids, the larger vehicle is a must. Last year, someone rear ended my wife and totaled our 2wd Expedition and I stumbled upon our current one while shopping for something equivalent, and I snatched it up.
As far as alterations go, I have removed the center seat in the second row. It makes it easier for the younger kids to get to the rear seats without having to fold and raise the center seats, and it is also where our dog lays down. I have added a leveling kit and popped on larger tires ... 285/75 R18’s which end up being a tad under 35”. As you mentioned, there is a difference between four-wheeling and overlanding. Here in north GA, 90% of MY obstacles will be creeks and streams in and around the national forest’s dispersed camping areas, so that is what I have base my ground clearance / suspension needs around. I have a DIY awning which seems to be working well so far on our day trips. Over the winter, I will work on our trail kitchen and in the spring I plan on adding a hidden winch. We are hammock campers, so we don’t have a tent to worry about accessing.
Once all of the kids are out of the house and it’s just me and my better half, we MAY look for a different vehicle, but we are quite happy with what we have now.
Awesome man! I tried to articulate as best as I could haha. I don't believe people are as close minded as they used to be towards different platforms. I believe you could most definitely do some great Overlanding with a minimally modded independent suspension vehicle 💪
@@kingdomoverlanding You’re right. My first car was a Ford Escort that I took places it wasn’t meant to go. It wasn’t uncommon for me tell my friends to hop out to give me a little more clearance. LOL
Hahaha do what you gotta do !!
You’re truly an inspiration to me and our family expedition!!!!
So glad to hear that !! 💯 💯
Love it brotha! Keep up the content! You are changing the game!
Thanks man!!!!
So much fun !!
I picked up a 04 expedition. Rust free southern truck. 200,000. Miles. I've been converting it since Xmas. It's my dedicated weekend toy. I love it. Lots of miles left in it. My mechanic went through the entire truck. Everything is new. Alternator, starter. You name it. Paid $3000.00. For it. I've budgeted $12,000. That includes paint. A whole lot cheaper than a new one. Put a new servo motor on the transfer case. The 4wd works like a charm now. Put a set of milestar patagonia tires on it. 13000lb winch. Roof rack with lights. 1500 watt inverter. 2 gallon 110 watt air compressor. I don't want a lift kit. 2 ham radios. 1 CB radio. I've purchased everything in the Rhino USA catalog for recovery gear. Should be done in the fall. Cant wait. Lots of these used on the market. I've had my share of jeeps. The older I get I want Lots of room and comfort. The expedition is perfect. Nothing like big V8 power. Don't ever buy a used expedition with the air suspension. It costs a fortune to repair or replace parts. Mine did not come with it. I got lucky. Have fun out there.
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Thats awesome!! Great build you have going on right there!!
What's up?! Good discussion of your full-size rig, you've got a really nice setup. We're using a full size pickup, still stock in most ways but it works for us. Sure, there's lots we want to do, but man I think it boils down to whatever gets you out & adventuring! Happy trails y'all!
Thank you ! Exactly, it all comes down to your intent and plans for Overlanding/offroading. You can do both in a stock 4x4 or an insanely built rig
@@kingdomoverlanding yup, sure can!
That thing is sick! We just traded our 4Runner for an ‘18 expedition limited 4x4 rear locker. I was wanted to head out west with the 4Runner and do Moab and all, but our family outgrew the 4Runner pretty quick. Hoping it’ll be capable enough to take us where we want to go
Awesome! With a lift and bigger tires super capable! Did you get one with a heavy duty tow package then?
@@kingdomoverlanding it does. 4 auto, 4low and the rear locker and trailer brake controller. It’s already got 33” ridge grapplers. Not sure if it’s lifted or not, hadn’t crawled under to check. But it definitely sits higher than our 4runner
That's awesome! 💯 Ya totally wish we had the tow package, although at this point all I need is a 2speed tcase abd the trans cooler. We're about 15" of ground clearance from the frame. We're aired up to 40psi so tires measure to 35"
New subscriber here! Really excited for that timberline content 👍
Awesome!! Thanks , totally me too to ha
Just got the Timberline, looking forward to the adventure
You remind me of my friend I grew up with. We were the outcasts and used to shoot BB guns to riders on the storm on a tape player boom box. Neither of us own a expedition but nostalgia a bit none the less.
Good thinking Dude,I lake it.
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Love my 2014 Expedition. We have been everywhere in it!
Awesome!!
Awesome video... I purchased an new 2003 Expedition... Family grew and that SUV was the perfect car for us for many years... Now, I am thinking about purchasing a newer one... I did a search in google and this video showed up... You answered my question... is the Expedition 4x4 capable for overlanding? I think the answer is YES. I also own a F350 Dually 4WD and a 2004 4WD Jeep WJ. I subscribed.
Haha yes it is an amazing ride! I believe front and rear lockers on 37s geared is the absolute way to go! It'll go anywhere you need to go as shown in my Moab video haha
I believe you can also get the elocker on non fx4 but have to have the trailer package if not pro backup assist. Still awesome info!
Yes! The Heavy Duty tow package! Better gearing too I believe 3:73
Hey I'm also in AZ. Been rocking an '08 Limited EL since '16 but just bought a '20 Platinum Max. We like to go camping and off road so I was sure to get one with 4L and the diff locker, but I don't know if I could stomach the scratches @2:40 or cutting up the fenders and plastics like you did. But I do need to get a roof rack and I think your point about lighting was a good idea I hadn't thought too much about.
Oh awesome! Great model , ya still lacking the 2 speed transfer case but at least we have lockers now.
Oh ik on the scratches that one trail we were on was nasty ,not necessary
Nice build! Have you considered plastic fender flares like the raptor?
I have ! Possiblity but not sure
Not getting 4L was a mistake, but I had assumed you had it based on how it handled offroad. Pretty impressive for 4H really.
Yeah no kidding ! Biggest regret not having a true 4WD , 4Auto is a joke. Dealerships shouldn’t even advertise it as 4WD
I think your rig is now even better than a land cruiser with the 37’s and front and rear lockers my friend
Haha oh dang! That's a huge compliment thank you!
No vehicle is mistake for overlanding. All vehicles are the great overlanders. The only mistake is when people do not respect the limits of their particular vehicle! Overlanding doesn't have to be off road travel. There are people that overland in a Prius, or other cars, hatchbacks etc, traveling to various campgrounds respecting the limits of their vehicle
Well said!!!
I don't really agree. Not all vehicles are reliable and going long distances some offroad.. this is the most important. Aka avoid ford etc
This is only the 2nd video of yours im watching but i just assumed you had the fx4 package. I wouldnt get a non fx4. Locker, 33’s and the moonroof and im good to go 👌🏻
Agreed, definitely wish I woulda went out of state to possibly find a fx4 or at least something with the heavy duty tow package
That’s a badass rig! I don’t understand why Ford went away from 4L in their non FX4 models. Though I do believe it’s still an eLSD in that package. Overall great build!
Thank you !! You can still get 4L but with a HD Tow package 👍
Mine has 4 low. You have to get the max tow package, 3.73 gears and 4 low
Can i ask what suspension changes you've made? Ready lift level kit or the rancho lift coils? thank you!
2.5" Icon coilovers!!
I have a 2016 EL.I have a 4x4 with 4H, 4L, 4A, and 2H. I thought they all had 4L with the 4x4 package?
Didn't know that.
Ya sucks , 4A is a huge misconception
hi bro I'm going crazy I can't find a skid plate for my Expedition limited 2023, what can you suggest? thank you
OEM raptor skid plates are all I know of unfortunately
Is the rear a solid axle in the expedition? I thought it was 4 corner independent What lockers are available for them?
Correct fully independent suspension.
@@kingdomoverlanding awesome, thank you, are there aftermarket lockers available for the trucks? Does the FX4 use the torsen like the front end of the raptors? I am looking at maybe buying an expedition so, I am wondering what I can do with it.
What bumper is that your running? Looks like the raptor or tremor? How was it to fit? Didn’t see a video but might have missed it!
Got you 👌
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@@kingdomoverlanding appreciate it!
You got it 👍
I tried to hit line and it kept hitting dislike. Great video. !!!!!!!
Haha 😂 that's hilarious , thanks tho!
Check out the 22' Expedition Timberline model. Thoughts?
Ha...just finished watching the video! Timberline will be awesome.
Yes!! Can't wait ! Excited to see some Raptor parts in a Expedition finally
The new Toyota sequoia is a solid rear axle and front and rear lockers
Front and rear? I heard just rear
@@kingdomoverlanding I think your right sounds like just rear locker
I swear I remember seeing an article on the TRD PRO having front also .....but now I can't find it 😕
Still pretty good with the solid rear axle and locking rear 👌
Bummer!!! That would've been legit!
What size tires and wheels?
37x12.5 17" wheels 0 offset
Is the 3.5 liter twin turbo ecoboost engine reliable??
I haven't had any issues yet , this is my 3rd EB
Don't think the FX4 package made it past the 2018 model. When I was looking for my expedition I only saw maybe 1 FX4 package and nothing that was marked as a 2019 or newer. Seems strange since FX4 is tried and true with the F150.
Feeling pretty good on having 4 low on my 2016 XLT though haha. RCI skids are in the works for me. Maybe when the Timberlines age a few years and make it through the into year I'll trade in my 2016 for one haha
Yeah they are kinda rare for sure , I actually saw a white 2022 Limited with a FX4 badge on it at work the other day 😳 . That would be awesome ride
I have a 2019 FX4. Not really worth it, imo. Skid plates are a joke, not even steel.
Also it’s not a real locker in the rear, it’s an e locker. They burn out quick. My Expy gets hot too, regular highway and towing at speed, over 200. Inadequate intercooler.
I recently installed a 165° thermostat and that has significantly helped with overheating. Haven't gotten over 195° . Used to be constantly 210-220
What i have found that max load on roof rack. Its max weight of 200lbs. How can you increase that load weight
Yes technically the max load weight for the factory crossbars is 150lbs. But with my roof rack we are able to exceed that with the extruded aluminum crossbars and aluminum side supports
Hey man
Think about solid axles swapping…
Yeah it's a thought 😅
Great overview, thank you. So are you getting the Timberline?
We'll see , the only thing it has that's really neat is the 3.5 High Output Raptor engine
@@kingdomoverlanding I have one. The motor is very nice. I’m looking at doing some things you’ve done…appreciate you sharing.
Awesome!! What are you looking to do with it ??
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- Suspension
- 35’s not sure I’m ready for 37’s :)
- Lights
- RTT and Awning
I’m more focused on Overlanding vs. Off Road to the point you are in the video.
Awesome 👍
Sounds like you're gonna be needing a roof rack here soon 🤙😁
Let me know whatever questions you have, I'll do my best to answer. Feel free to send me an email as well .
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We just installed the full tow package, including two speed transfer case on our 2019 expedition, installed by dealer. Happy to share the parts list if interested.
Oh really?! They did it ??
They did, took some convincing and some trial and error on their part.
Thats awesome! Yeah would be great if you can email me the details! What dealership did the install?
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I’ve got an 03 expedition Eddie Bauer edition. Has 4 high, 4 low. I’ve done a lot of beach driving with it. Other than the falken wildpeak at3w tires and a small light bar she’s stock. Would love to go over landing with her. From the beach and winters in NY she’s got a bunch of rust now. Afraid if I take it “off road” something will break and leave me hanging.
Right on! Ya rust is not good
@@kingdomoverlanding nope. We sprayed the her off every time we came back from the beach but didn’t make a difference. Drop the tires to 15psi and 4 high she did great in the deep sand. Lots of family fun memories from those outings. The 4 low helped when I had to drag a car out of a ditch after they ran off the road.
@@ickess That's awesome!! 🤙
You spent all that money and didn't get the 4 low option....
Definitely unfortunate 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
Who cares. I will probably never be able to afford sonething like this. Id give anything to have his ford suburban. I love these. Wish GMC made one. I'd take this any day
@@kingdomoverlandingwhere can I find your lockers
I’ve got a 2021 Max with FX4 and 4L/locker. Overall, I hate this car so much I only managed to put on 4,800 miles for the year I’ve owned it. 16mpg city driving? Pfft. I get 12mpg city driving in Eco mode. I especially hate that the only way to fold the 3rd row is by going to the truck, and that the inverter only has 150W of juice vs the 400w the F150 gets. Can’t even blow up a mattress with that, so I have to bring my battery powered inflator.
Ford calls these all-terrain tires? Ha! The tread is more fit for all-season, and they’re not even snow rated.
This car has to compensate on every feature, except seating capacity. Now looking at the 2023 Sequoia instead of this PoS.
So many factors to consider on the MPG, driving style mostly. You may want to get it looked at if you drive conservative and don't have it loaded down or towing all the time. We get 11-12 mpg on trips.
Maybe consider a different air pump, we've never had a problem filling up air mattresses.
I've never offroaded on factory tires so not sure about that one. Although the new Bronco sasquatch 35s are definitely pretty meaty for a factory tire.
There's nothing better for power, space and Mpg on the market IMO, but definitely excited to what the new Sequoia can do. We'll see if Toyota put forth a full size contender 💯
@@kingdomoverlanding Yeah, man. 12mpg driving like a granny… alone! I had a 2012 F150 5.0 that got 17mpg with 1500lbs of 4x8s in the bed lol
Yeah that doesn't sound right, yours may be in limp mode or something! Should be getting at least 15-18
@@kingdomoverlanding I thought limp mode was caused by a chronic condition I have: marriage.
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Trade it in for the new expedition timerberline
I want to but I don't want to 🤣🤣
@@kingdomoverlanding lol I hear what you are saying
A new build does sound exciting!
@@kingdomoverlanding yeah my dude I would do it if you want the off-road look with the timberline
Absolutely! Would be a beast
Sounds like a disaster
Disaster?
@@kingdomoverlanding no rear locker!
Yes! Not for too much longer!