Is It Possible to Beat Celeste Without Touching Grass?
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2023
- hi this is a video where a jumpy jompy character avoids grass because... um... anyway i hope you'll enjoy the video bye
also are video descriptions even useful anymore? idk the title already explains what you need to know and no one reads the description anyway
[Music used]
All of the music used in this video (except for the outro music) comes from Celeste's original soundtrack. Here are the tracks used in order of apparition in the video:
02 - First Steps
01 - Prologue
08 - Scattered and Lost
09 - Golden
15 - Reflection
18 - Reach for the Summit
You can listen to Celeste's original soundtrack on Lena Raine's official UA-cam channel: • [Official] Celeste Ori...
The outro music was played by me.
by the way if you're reading this, who do you think would win a fight between a ninja carrot and a samurai potato? - Ігри
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Hi.
Firstly, thanks to y'all for watching and commenting on the video, you are the best :)
Secondly, a bunch of you found ways to avoid some of the grass touches in this video, so I will list all of them here:
Big thanks to 2deoxyribose, who found how to avoid those three grass touches:
- The cutscene grass touch at 5:29, which is avoidable by stacking up speed from the Kevin in the previous room
- The cutscene grass touch at 7:06, which is avoidable by skipping the cutscene on the very first frame, which for some reason doesn't teleport the character
- The cutscene grass touch at 7:40, which is avoidable by doing a precise extended hyperdash and skipping the cutscene high in the air
Here's a video (from 2deoxyribose) showing those skips: ua-cam.com/video/F4fX9QSnFqA/v-deo.html
2deoxyribose also found a way to avoid the grass touch in The Summit, using a fancy mechanic called "spinner stun". However, as it requires about 87 frame perfect inputs in a row, I will consider this strat TAS-only and will not consider this grass touch avoidable for a human. Here's a video example from 2deoxyribose's channel: ua-cam.com/video/m3HbtKwhIZA/v-deo.html
However, it is also possible to do this without a TAS in a different way. As 2deoxyribose and Shade stated, this spinner stun thing can be achieved in another way, by simply waiting for 118 hours, which completely breaks 2/3rds of the spinners. Cosmoe_2 tested this and confirmed it does allow to get past without touching the grass, which would be a human-friendly way to get past this part without touching the grass. (although you do have to wait with the game opened for 118 hours)
Also, the grass touch in 4a (at 2:50) is avoidable in two different ways.
As RichConnerGMN and Rarebeeph suggested (RichConnerGMN even sent the TAS input file to show how it's done), a double corner boost can skip this grass touch.
And as meta04 also mentioned, 4b is possible grassless so we can also just grab the B-Side Cassette in 4a and play 4b instead to completely bypass this grass touch.
Also, as Magic_Pickle123 and RichConnerGMN stated, the first cutscene with granny only gets triggered when you're looking towards her, so by jumping and turning away from her before landing, we can avoid this grass touch as well.
And as Nico stated, there are two cutscene grass touches I missed in this video, which both happen in Chapter 2, where you spawn on top of a tiny piece of grass in an unskippable cutscene, and that happens twice in the chapter.
To recap, this makes 4 cutscene grass touches and 2 character grass touch avoidable, but adds 2 more cutscene grass touches.
Which makes the theoretical final grass touching count at 3 cutscene grass touch and 0 character grass touch, resulting in 3 total grass touches, which makes the entire game possible without any character grass touches!
Thanks to all of you for your comments and your help, thanks to you we now know how to avoid almost every grass touch! :)
In some circumstances, spinner stun can be achieved by standing still for 5-6 days, as shown in the "Celeste Minimum Grabs" human speedrun.
@@Geitungur Indeed! But since apparently it only stuns 2/3rds of the spinners, I would like to make sure this way of spinner stunning actually works for this specific scenario before saying it, but I don't feel like leaving the game opened for 3 days to try it
@@Rhododo just tested it using a debug command to set the time to 118 hours, the top of the first tower of spinners gets unloaded and the first ~5 tiles after the grass are safe to stand on, letting you do an extended hyper to get past the grass :)
@@cosmocomet4250 Thanks for testing it! I will update the pinned comment with this info.
I'm curious about this debug command thing though, how does it work? I'd be interested in testing this spinner thing more for another challenge idea I have
@@2deoxyribose722 yoo euni is my favorite Celeste player
Whoever beat this challenge probably had a lot of practice in real life as well
Was gonna comment that, but you beat me to the punch...
Haha
Yea haha, i get it
Wait... HOW DID THEY BEAT REAL LIFE
I would like this but it’s at 666
The first cutscene with granny only gets triggered if you’re facing her while standing on the ground so you can avoid it by turning away from her before landing from a jump
Ohhhh you're right! I didn't know that, that's one less cutscene grass touch then! Thanks for your comment!
Can also be avoided by jumping in a specific way then triggering the cutscene and skipping it. You will be in the air and can move away from the grass
Doing chapter 8 and 9 wouldn't be interesting, because the only pieces of grass are at the beginning.
Indeed.
Chapter 9 actually has a bit more grass but its still not worth imo
@@ahmadsab_ where?
the only reason to do 8 and 9 is seeing the grass you face when doing b sides
@@LilyStarry heartdoor in 9 can be skipped
7:45 Badeline putting you through all that pain and suffering just to roast you at the end is so funny
4:17 they call them kevins because the person who's voice is used in it's sound effect is named kevin
Oh I didn't know that, good to know!
bro must've had so much fun voice acting that
great video. no bull, no intermission, funny edits, straight to the point. good shit m8
Thanks :)
Hey really great video! I speedrun and TAS this game so I thought I could offer a bit of input. It's actually possible to skip all three of the grass touches in chapter 6 though they're pretty tricky and require some kinda obscure mechanics and knowledge.
First is that cutscenes don't automatically reset your speed to zero meaning if you can enter a cutscene with enough speed it's possible to skip it and spawn somewhere the game doesn't expect you to spawn. In the room before the grassy corridor before the fight there's a Kevin block and it's possible to build up speed from that Kevin and very carefully keep speed into the cutscene so when you skip it Madeline will fly right into Badeline without touching the grass
The second grass touch at 7:07 requires some really niche knowledge about Celeste. Not getting into all the technical details (partly because it's not super important and also because I don't fully understand it) but if you skip this cutscene on the first frame you have control after you enter the room it doesn't teleport you to the ground. Since transitioning screens gives you your dash back you have your dash again to dash to some not grassy ground
The last grass touch can be skipped by entering the cutscene high enough and skipping it fast enough that you can just hold right to fall in the water and skip touching the grass and then dash up to the next room.
Here's a short video of me doing all the skips described above: ua-cam.com/video/F4fX9QSnFqA/v-deo.html
40 minutes later edit: It's also possible to skip the grass in the Summit with tech called spinner stunning which is extremely impossible for humans to do and very, very complicated (I can explain if desired) but if we're looking at what's technically possible to skip here's the grass skipped in the first room of Summit: ua-cam.com/video/m3HbtKwhIZA/v-deo.html
Great video and I'm looking forward to seeing what else you come up with!
Wow, thanks a lot for all of this info!
I guess I should learn TAS so I can try some of those things more precisely instead of just bruteforcing manually for hours
Very interesting, I didn't think about the kevin in the previous room, and I didn't know about the skipping cutscene on the first frame trick, great stuff!
I was 99% sure the last grass touch in Chapter 6 was avoidable but after trying over and over for 2 hours and having to go all the way back to the previous checkpoint every single time I gave up trying to do it, good to know it's actually doable!
Oh yeah, I knew about spinner stunning but since I don't TAS I didn't even try, good to know it works! If I understand correctly it's something like you have to pause every 3 frames to prevent the spinner hitbox from loading or something like that? Also, I don't remember where I heard about that but doesn't waiting about 3 days completely breaks the spinners too? (although waiting 3 days would be very inconvenient)
I'm glad you liked the video, and I will make a pinned comment to inform people about the possible grass skips. Thanks a lot for sharing the Celeste obscure knowledge! :)
@@Rhododo Anytime and yep, you're pretty much right on the money on spinner stunning. There's a lot of complexity in the nuance of it but the three frame thing is correct and yes, you can wait 118 hours to unload 2/3rds of the spinners but as you say it is very inconvenient
hi, celeste "expert" here
for the granny cutscene in prologue, you can repeatedly jump to the right and face left before landing. for some reason, this just... doesn't trigger the cutscene.
for the grass touch in 4a, i was able to skip it with a double cornerboost. the tas input file will be in the replies to this comment.
at 4:38, you conveniently skip the part where you have to touch the grass at the top. though you don't actually have to, because if you stay two pixels away from the wall, you can just climbjump up the wall without touching the grass
at 5:31, just do a bhop off the kevin like in speedruns
[4a tas]
console load 4 c-00
1
#Start
36
#lvl_c-00
4,R,X
33,R,J
4,R,Z
50,R,J
13,R,K
9,J,G
1,L,J
24,R,K,G
1,R,J,G
11,R,K,G
20,R
26,R,J
15,R,U,X
28,R,U,G
30,R,J,G
Thanks for your comment!
Yep, a few people in the comments found ways to avoid those cutscene grass touches, so I will make a pinned comment with all the avoidable grass touches!
Good to know it's possible to skip the grass touch in 4a with cornerboosts, some other comment gave the idea of unlocking and doing 4b instead but if the cornerboost thing works too that's even better, I guess I should learn how to use TAS at some point instead of bruteforcing manually for hours
At 4:38, I didn't touch the grass at the top, I had stamina left so I just grabbed the wall at the very top and jumped forward
Ohhh I didn't know about this kevin bhop thing, thanks for the info!
I love this video. I'd love to see you do more on anything that interests you, you've got a really fun style!
Also, I only realized just now that there's so much grass in Chapter 4 because it all serves as a cue for the direction and strength of the wind blowing. So it adds to the aesthetic of Golden Ridge, makes a good chunk of this challenge really interesting, and serves a gameplay purpose in the game as it's meant to be played... that's some powerful grass! :D
edit: Also really top-notch editing in the second half of the video I love it lol
edit 2: gheezus thats a hard question I'm gonna go with samurai potato.
Thanks for your comment!
I do plan to make more of these challenge videos on a bunch of different games, this video was kind of a test to see if it worked and I'm glad with how it turned out, so I will definitely make more of them!
Yup, the grass makes a lot of sense in Chapter 4, the level design and attention to detail in Celeste is amazing, very powerful grass indeed.
I'm glad you liked the editing, I learned a lot while making this video so that's probably why the second half is better!
that first grass touch in 4a seems like it might be avoidable with something like a corner boost, like how you clear the 6 spikes in 1a dashless
can you also not corner dash or wouldn't you get the dash back from it (at 2:52)
I did try my best to do a corner boost, but I couldn't get past without touching the grass. Maybe the wind current prevents that from working, or maybe it could just be me not being good enough at cornerboosts to do it properly (which is probably the case)
However, as meta04 stated in a comment, 4b is possible grassless, and we can grab the 4b cassette before reaching that wind current part.
And since clearing the B-Side without clearing the A-Side allows to move on to the next level, that could be used to avoid the first grass touch!
@@Rhododo oh damn good catch by them
the 1a skip isnt a coost
I just tried a bit and you can get over the block without touching grass, but as it uses all your stamina I see no way to progress after
amazing video! seriously underated, i wouldnt have nearly enough patience or sanity to do something like this haha
hope you grow as a creator!
Thanks a lot! :)
Holy shit this editing is good. Custom ingame text was a nice touch
Good effort, man!!! I don't think I'll ever be that good, but super happy there's peeps like you to aspire to.
Just discovered this channel, but I love the energy and the humor
Love the video! I’m excited to see what you make in the future :)
Thanks! :)
Bro you DESERVE A SUB
I discovered you with this video. Your editing is handsome and really funny. Love your work !🔥
This video was really funny ! You've got a sub man
"I was told to keep off the grass, and I was never told to stop."
fantastic video! youre really underrated, definitely subscribed!! ❤
Thanks! :)
The comedy is absolutely spot on.
Just need to take a moment to appreciate the editing in your videos. You are amazing! Comedic genius 👌
I like how it said berry touches in the bottom left corner of the screen at the end
“Yeah I play League of Legends, how could you tell?”
Respect for the pain you probably went through to touch as little grass as possible. Any UA-camr who tries challenges like these which require a lot of time and strategizing to do as little of something as possible (sometimes doing nothing of said thing) deserves a LOT of subscribers. The editing is better than my editing, even if I tried. This was entertaining all the way through, so good job. The extra details you added like the berry touch count (4 touches) appearing for a split second at the end of the video is a nice addition.
TL;DR: good video, you suffered, great editing, and also you got a new subscriber.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video :)
2:58 if you climbhop cancel (climbjump during the hop animation that happens at the top of a corner) you cancel wind effect and its possible to make it
"grr i am very anger!! >:("
-Badeline, 2023
I like the song you played at the end of the video :D
Thanks! :D
I have watched this video like 3 times at this point I keep coming back it's a good video I like it
This Needs to become a speedrunning category
great and entertaining video keep it up!
Gotta love how his two videos that he's made this year, which are both super high quality, are getting him hundreds of subs now. Well worth it!
I'd personally like to attempt this myself since there could probably be a few places that cutscene grass touches could be avoided, but tbh it may (or may not I'm not sure) take some black magic acquired after hundreds of hours of playing Celeste. I'll look into it sometime
I also think it may be possible to avoid some of those.
As Magic_Pickle123 stated in the comments, the granny dialogue one in the prologue is avoidable by never looking towards granny
I don't remember if the one at 5:28 teleports Madeline when we skip it, but if it doesn't maybe it's possible to grab on the edge of the block on the right
I really don't think the one at 7:07 is avoidable, since skipping the cutscene does teleport Madeline on the grass
And finally, I definitely think the one at 7:40 is skippable, since it doesn't teleport Madeline after skipping the cutscene. I did try for two hours but couldn't quite reach that water without touching the grass, but that's probably a skill issue on my part.
If you find that any of those are skippable, let me know! I will put a pinned comment with all the skippable grass touches.
Hi, quick update on the grass touches.
Thanks to the help of a bunch of people in the comments, a way to avoid all the cutscene grass touch (except for the very first one where we spawn at the start of the prologue) has been found! If you want to know more about it, you can check the pinned comment.
i love how granny is basicslly the grass god now
They’re called Kevins because they’re named after the sound designer for the game who did the voice for them ^_^
really entertaining video, much good, did enjoy
Great video! Well-edited :)
Thanks! :)
8:21 YOOOOOO DOOR SKIP YOU JUST SAVED 11 YEARS WITH THAT
LET'S GOOOO
I love how the touch grass touch no grass in games turned into a meme^^
I never knew watching someone beat Celeste without touching any grass would be this entertaining
good work lad
Omg Celeste this is so nostalgic thank you (I might play this and dead cells on my UA-cam page as well soon)
Sick vid, dude ! I loved all the little details, my personal favorite was when badeline's text was replaced by the grass touch count
also the little "berry touch" at the end, I saw you !
also carrot soup
wow the music at the end was played by you ? that's beautiful
also I feel like I recognise your accent, where are you from ?
@@CibuYT Thanks! :)
You're the first one who commented about carrot soup!
Yes I played the music at the end, I'm glad you liked it!
I'm from France, that's where my accent comes from.
Madeline is a true gamer
i love your videos sm
I love how the inspiration for the video is basically just a full circle moment lmao
that "there wasn't any grass" at the end was TOO GOOD
also 1,000th like :)
Thanks :)
7:11 grr im very anger!! >:(
7:46 cutscene grass touches: FIVE-
The grass in prologue could have a different excuse for not counting, being that they could very well be far away from the plane Madeline is on. We don't know, though.
Amazing Video also: 7:10 text sums up his feelings XD
Thanks!
Yup, 7:10 is exactly how I felt at that moment xD
@@Rhododo Are you not touching grass to preserve it or because you are allergic?
@@Ri5olu Let's pretend it's to preserve it
A CHALLENGE VID??? ON MY FAVORITE GAME?? YESSS
Celeste game our beloved
I'd like to see this as a speedrunning category it would be... Interesting
"grr i am very anger!! >:("
-badeline
that one berry touch will haunt you for the rest of your life
now someone has to make an edit of reflections where all the grass has spikes on it
oh my god I tried this challenge just a few weeks ago, im very glad somebody else thought of it!!
you are way better at this than i am tho lol
okay the hello at the start was adorable though
8:00 not to nitpick but *hyperdash
Oh yep that's true my bad, it is indeed an extended hyperdash and not a wavedash!
amazing channel man good job.
(plz give us a video of the full outro song)
Thanks! :)
(the full outro song doesn't exist, it's barely a few seconds longer than what's used in the video, but maybe one day I'll try to turn it into a full song)
I love how this video tries so hard to make it seem like this is a hard challenge when it just really isn't lol. Great video editing and funny challenge though.
Kevin blocks are called that because the voice actor for them is called Kevin
amazing video :)
4B might be possible grassless...
I just tried, and indeed you are correct! I didn't even try when making the video because I thought the 4b cassette was after that grass part, but it is before so we can indeed grab the cassette and avoid that grass touch! Thanks for your comment!
The absolute defeat in your voice at 8:02 was gold
Entertaining video :D I liked it
Thanks :D
Ninja carrot would win, has both the sword and sharp tip
very cool video!
beat celeste as a celeste player
-someone who plays celeste
hi:)
im gonna comment this on every video so i can maybe help boost your channel so yeah im gonna make it as long as possible because maybe it will help more and yeah lol idk why im doing this
luv ur content btw
Theyre called kevins because that's their voice actors name
You could’ve avoided the grass after talking to granny in the prologue. There’s a thing called a granny skip.
Yes, I didn't know about that when I made the video! A bunch of people mentioned this in the comments. I made a pinned comment listing every avoidable grass touch
Really entertaining video!
4:34 I'm curious, how did you avoid the grass at the top here?
I wondered that too but I'm pretty sure as long as you still have stamina you can climb jump over it pretty easy
@@snasmusic Oh yeah good point. I forgot he still had stamina.
Thanks!
As @Snas Does Music Things said, since I had stamina left I just grabbed the wall and jumped towards to right at the end, which was enough to jump over the grass.
in chapter 4 can you unlock the b-side and beat the level without touching grass then?
Yes!
Finally a true gamer
That looked really tricky holy shit, how long is it for you to do this challenge?
Hope to see more of this cool challenge! Subbed
4:15 We call those Kevins because the person who voiced them is named Kevin :)
Granny going from a nice old lady to an evil jester. She is just waiting here, waiting to laugh at you for failling to do your grass-less run
At least badeline isn't trying to make you fail
They're called Kevins because the grumbling sound was recorded by Kevin Regamey
good vid!
Hello! Great video, always fun to watch a creative challenge run. Also what is the song/piano part in your outro?
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video!
That piano mini-song is a short 20 seconds thing I played and recorded specifically for the outro.
this channel is way too underrated
Thanks :)
This vidéo IS so good
What dialogue pack did you use for this?
None, just got the font Celeste uses (Renogare) and video-edited the text boxes
why did you use so a little wave/hyper dashes??? (or reverse versions of it)
Why would I? The goal was avoiding grass, not going fast
jijachad only using demo dash button as the main dash button
true gamering
the edited badeline dialogue appeals to ME and ME ONLY
"The grass came to touch you instead" YEA I WISH
You can avoid grass in some cutscenes by jumping before triggering it and then skipping. Skipping the cutscenes only changes the x-coordinate of Madeline, and y remains the same. This way you can jump or dash over the grass without touching it.
i already did that
edit: oh you mean in game
ps: jokes aside, this is very nice video👍
Haha
ps: Thanks :)
This challenge is a good depiction of how depression feels like
true gamer.
amazing vid
Thanks! :)
It's harder to touch grass for these players tbh
I like how it's implied Granny laugh because she's like "I made you touch grass"
This content was sweet :)
Its called a kevin since Kevin made the sounds for it
very nice