One Celeste Screen for Every Difficulty

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2023
  • Could help some people understand the community rankings for difficulty better, or just a silly video
    Mods used:
    Strawberry Jam gamebanana.com/mods/424541
    Delusional Canopy gamebanana.com/mods/371770
    Monika's D-sides gamebanana.com/mods/150759
    Moon of the ultras gamebanana.com/mods/365379
    //MOCE// gamebanana.com/mods/409812
    LPL collab gamebanana.com/mods/455644
    Election D-side gamebanana.com/mods/382667
    Crystal Garden gamebanana.com/mods/150652
    Dashless+ gamebanana.com/mods/430430
    Clips used for Moon of the ultras, cpvl ,crystal garden and dashless+ from woofdoggo, clip for gddh from masrock9, clip for lxvi from Clantis and the election d clip was a TAS made by me.
    Hardlist link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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  • @theblueberrypi6152
    @theblueberrypi6152 6 місяців тому +1371

    The moment when you are watching expert and think there’s not much left because this already looks humanly impossible then you realize you are only one-third through the video

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame 6 місяців тому +16

      Okay but how th expert looks humanly impossible

    • @Martin-fb9pb
      @Martin-fb9pb 6 місяців тому +66

      ​​@@gmdFrameI like to watch some Celeste map clears from time to time to see how I'm progressing, it's a great feeling. I started seeing Expert as humanly impossible, and now that I am advanced yellow-red I can see myself doing it in the (not so near) future.
      Now Grandmaster and beyond, when I become a TAS bot we may talk about those.

    • @jamesmckenna2559
      @jamesmckenna2559 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Martin-fb9pbgrandmaster is hard but like if you grind there should be some maps that you can do even now, the tech knowledge is normally a pretty strong barrier to entry. However i know of people who just skipped straight to gm maps because they wanted to. Like lava layer is a techless gm map in the strawberry jam collab and it would take a few hours but I feel like an advanced player could grind it out. Just have faith in yourself its often not as impossible as it looks(until you hit red gm and beyond)

    • @Faunarr
      @Faunarr 5 місяців тому +1

      Its probably weird for me but uh, I always saw Expert maps as doable. I'm currently finishing a red Advanced map. I started playing SJ like 2-4 days ago and wanted to see which level I'm okay with. So far red advanced is still pretty easy to me. So I'm gonna move onto green expert once I'm done with that map which will probably be by the end of today. I every level in Celeste within 31 hours of playing it. The only thing I haven't done is the golden berries but I'll probably do that when I can be bothered to do them.

    • @PrivateForPersonalReasons
      @PrivateForPersonalReasons 4 місяці тому

      The fact I read this at that exact moment

  • @noobrownies101
    @noobrownies101 4 місяці тому +540

    "us presidential election d-side" has got to be the funniest name for a celeste mod ever

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 місяці тому +135

      the 2000s american housing crisis is also awesome

    • @jftyjghj
      @jftyjghj 3 місяці тому +3

      Moce cpcl

    • @SquishGD
      @SquishGD 2 місяці тому +14

      iirc the full name is Madeline votes in the 2020 U.S. presidential election D side

    • @karamboubou8579
      @karamboubou8579 Місяць тому +15

      There's a map called "The 2000's American Housing Crisis" with room names like "Macroeconomic Trends in Southeast Asia Suggest Long Road to Recovery"

    • @misscatbird
      @misscatbird 24 дні тому

      @@jftyjghjcpvl*

  • @ruv_the_real
    @ruv_the_real 4 місяці тому +212

    Everything up to expert: learning mechanics and the actual movement
    Grandmaster: SPEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
    Grandmaster+ : precision to the level of a thread though a needle blindfolded with numb hands

  • @Q______o
    @Q______o 6 місяців тому +1935

    Hopefully this shows non celeste players that we are not just playing hard maps to be masochists but because there's an actual progression in difficulty and eventually those are fine. Also that we don't beat everything by muscle memory or something
    Except Gm + 2 basically no matter what you're spending like minimum 2 hours per room

    • @OfficialEtherial
      @OfficialEtherial 6 місяців тому +1

      Whatever's good for you, Masochist.

    • @laceylopp7039
      @laceylopp7039 6 місяців тому +183

      we don’t beat everything by muscle memory??

    • @khalfy_kun
      @khalfy_kun 6 місяців тому +293

      But. . . We are masochists! We do beat everything by muscle memory! We're also all trans for some reason!

    • @Icomplaintoomuch
      @Icomplaintoomuch 6 місяців тому +92

      @@khalfy_kunAs a beginner trans Celester, can confirm. I dont feel good playing farewell, but cant get myself to stop, and always beat rooms due to muscle memory.

    • @charteon9092
      @charteon9092 5 місяців тому +26

      Yeah no, I’ve only just finished sj intermediate lobby and I’m gonna be honest, it all eventually becomes muscle memory. Im really bad at improvising, (which sucks when going for golden strawberries

  • @bunshine
    @bunshine 6 місяців тому +591

    for the record, for those who don't play celeste, the vast majority of maps do not go past grandmaster. it is only a tiny miniscule amount of extremely hardcore maps that are deliberately that hard. there's like maybe just a couple maps beyond gm+1. i have no interest in these personally! but i've played loads of celeste, so i'm here to let y'all know that there is sooo so much lovely stuff to enjoy even in just beginner!!

    • @fearacha965
      @fearacha965 6 місяців тому +30

      I'm confused. I finished the game. I'm at the b-side of the summit. I didn't even know there were c-sides. And some of those other maps also don't look like they are from the game.
      Are they mods or how do you unlock those?

    • @AttyPatty3
      @AttyPatty3 6 місяців тому

      ​@@fearacha965yes all the maps from hellow advanced onwards are not in the game and are modded maps. Modded celeste is a joy to play and you should definitely try it out!

    • @byrne1807
      @byrne1807 5 місяців тому

      @@fearacha965mods, abc sides for chapters 1-8 plus chapter 9 are base game (technically farewell is dlc but) and everything else in here is a mod

    • @thecodewarrior7925
      @thecodewarrior7925 5 місяців тому

      @@fearacha965they’re using the Everest mod loader

    • @andermium
      @andermium 5 місяців тому +64

      @@fearacha965 Anything after Summit C-side shown in this video is mods. Check the description for those maps. C-sides should unlock when you complete all B-sides. And while they have harder screens, they're only 3 screens long so not as demanding as B-sides in terms of endurance.

  • @remlolkek
    @remlolkek 4 місяці тому +153

    "oh cool, he's just connected different playthro-"
    7:49 WHAT THE FU

  • @lumi7292
    @lumi7292 5 місяців тому +322

    as someone who's only played the base game, i shit my pants when i saw summit c-side, widely regarded as the hardest level, placed on the easier side of advanced. Really helps put into perspective just how dedicated the community must be. Great vid :3

    • @taylor3621
      @taylor3621 4 місяці тому +23

      Same, I just beat Summit C-Side today and I was waiting for Farewell to appear... goodness I was wrong.

    • @minedone1236
      @minedone1236 3 місяці тому +12

      I found Chapter 3 C Side harder than Chapter 7 C Side 😅
      I liked chapter 7 C Side, it was perfect difficulty for me

    • @legendfinder
      @legendfinder 2 місяці тому +5

      @@minedone1236 Same. Chapter 7 C-side is the right amount of difficulty for me to come back to it and feel good about beating it every time. Although Farewell's final screen is shapin up to take its place for me.

    • @matzck9674
      @matzck9674 Місяць тому +3

      The final screen of farewell is pretty much a 2min long intermediate green screen. The length and the stress involved makes the difficulty of it, but execution wise once you've cleared it once it doesn't hold a candle to some of the earlier screens in farewell or 7/8C

    • @misscatbird
      @misscatbird 24 дні тому

      7c final isn’t even advanced lol, it’s like yellow intermediate

  • @aloysiuskurnia7643
    @aloysiuskurnia7643 2 місяці тому +91

    As a nonplayer, it goes from "dang that looks pretty hard already" to "boi this looks impossible to me" to "this looks entertaining" as my brain just giving up seeing those as meant to be played lmao

    • @freshstat1csnow
      @freshstat1csnow Місяць тому +5

      i'm decent at celeste and know a fair bit about the movement tech involved in the harder mods and i still wouldn't be able to do most of them within this lifetime lmao

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 3 дні тому +1

      ⁠@@freshstat1csnowI thought that when I was in like advanced-expert too. Like 5 months later, I beat CPVL ( 8:34 ) and I’m almost done with Avian Ascension which is I think red gm+1
      Edit: I beat Avian!

  • @mystral_fox
    @mystral_fox 6 місяців тому +434

    although dashless+ r24 Is no longer gm+3 due to strats, it is gm+3 with the way dan cleared it (which is the way shown in the video so its still correct) :3

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 місяців тому +12

      Yeah I was about to say this lmao

    • @WeeklyDoseOfCeleste
      @WeeklyDoseOfCeleste 6 місяців тому +18

      Yeah i actually can't believe just how much r24 has been supplanted in terms of difficulty due to what has been found.

    • @toshii2198
      @toshii2198 6 місяців тому +6

      How is GM+3 defined at the moment? Afair GM+2 was anything harder than AA?

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 місяців тому +7

      @@toshii2198 if a room is harder than Venus (hardest +2 room iirc?) then it’s gm+3
      No idea if Venus is the hardest +2 room or not but I remember it being the hardest

    • @mystral_fox
      @mystral_fox 6 місяців тому +22

      @@toshii2198 It's not defined , at all . and it won't be for a while probably, it's just fully based off of feel

  • @leafar08
    @leafar08 6 місяців тому +226

    As a "Farewell last room completed" player, I feel non existent 😢

    • @MAML_
      @MAML_ 6 місяців тому +4

      green-yellow advanced

    • @olekkatan6614
      @olekkatan6614 5 місяців тому +50

      @@MAML_ red int

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 місяців тому +61

      @@olekkatan6614 If I'm not mistaken, there are a few rooms in Farewell that would be considered green advanced by Strawberry Jam standards, but it's ofc pretty subjective and regardless most of the level is around the difficulty of SJ's red int

    • @pachicore
      @pachicore 5 місяців тому +7

      I still think 7 C-side is like the hardest thing i've done in this game (i've only completed up to Monika's 3 D side)

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 місяців тому +6

      @@pachicore Yeah that room's a contender for green advanced, I've seen it debated.
      And most people I've talked to consider it harder than any room in farewell, except maybe Comb Room

  • @RioRock7
    @RioRock7 4 місяці тому +54

    Im coming to this video cause I wanted to see how hard this game got. Bro I didn’t even realize that C sides even existed.

    • @imakevideos687
      @imakevideos687 2 місяці тому +4

      I honestly think the c sides are easier than the b sides. C sides are way shorter but have harder rooms

    • @RioRock7
      @RioRock7 2 місяці тому +3

      @@imakevideos687 yeah after doing them I would agree.

  • @goober444
    @goober444 6 місяців тому +236

    so much of the earlier part is straight up wrong but past advanced green its all good.

    • @squibster81
      @squibster81 6 місяців тому +53

      I mean I only really disagreed with the pick for beginner red and intermediate yellow. For beginner red he should’ve gone with like flag 2 instead of 2500m orb, and intermediate yellow could’ve been a room from later in 5b. Oh also intermediate red should’ve been like 5c final instead of 1c.

    • @rice2cu5881
      @rice2cu5881 6 місяців тому +10

      @@squibster81 I mean, that is a fair amount. Personally I'd say from green int to green adv is pretty inaccurate and then the rest is reasonable enough. Beginner does span from around 1a to 7a so it's not too far off.

  • @nuzzlx
    @nuzzlx 4 місяці тому +50

    As someone who hasnt played Celeste since 2019, I full on yelled "PLUS THREE?!" when you got to Grandmaster +3 lmfao, fully expected +2 to be the last difficulty.

    • @NottSaying
      @NottSaying 4 місяці тому

      you think that's bad? Wait till you hear about +0

    • @henzelman5218
      @henzelman5218 4 місяці тому +1

      AND THIS IS EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @dry4smash946
      @dry4smash946 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@NottSayingthats for goldens, goldens are separated into tiers going downwards (so like from tier 9 for example going downwards to tier 0)

    • @paolarei4418
      @paolarei4418 24 дні тому

      ​@@dry4smash946Why didn't they do it upward then._.

    • @dry4smash946
      @dry4smash946 24 дні тому

      @@paolarei4418 whhhhy not, you cant answer every question in life after all 😌

  • @i_Soar
    @i_Soar 6 місяців тому +25

    0:00: Actual screens
    4:21 onward: Mental illnesses

  • @astrumleaf
    @astrumleaf 6 місяців тому +104

    they've got to come up with better names for higher difficulties

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 місяців тому +88

      there've been some names like astral and celestial for the gm+ difficulties but I'm not the biggest fan of them and most people aren't calling the difficulties by those names

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 6 місяців тому +31

      gm+ is easier to understand though

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 місяців тому +55

      Names for gm+ are so bad lmao
      Keeping it as +1 or +2 is easy to understand and also doesn’t cause confusion as long as you know what gm means

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 6 місяців тому +2

      @@petrikhorr True lmao

    • @aaaton55
      @aaaton55 6 місяців тому +47

      @@egfloggygoggy Personally I'd like to nominate gm+1 = grandgrandmaster, gm+2 = grandgrandgrandmaster, gm+3 = grandgrandgrandgrandmaster

  • @atomikaI
    @atomikaI 4 місяці тому +31

    I'm a fan of celeste but not super involved in the community. I 100% the base game and tried out strawberry jam, but quit near the end of the intermediate lobby when the levels started becoming more annoying than fun for me. I was aware that super hard levels existed far beyond my skill range, but still considered myself a fairly decent player, at least until watching this video lol. I could never have the patience or precision for jumpless+

  • @esteb7496
    @esteb7496 6 місяців тому +54

    Very good video that will probably be useful to a lot of new players

  • @codeninja3295
    @codeninja3295 5 місяців тому +32

    very good video! based on what i’ve seen in strawberry jam, i feel like a lot of beginner and intermediate stuff is harder than the examples you gave (though i might be wrong/misremembering), but this was fun to watch.
    also, as an intermediate player, the later difficulty demonstrations start to lose meaning because all those levels fall into the category of “this looks humanly impossible why do people play this” lol

    • @favretheundead
      @favretheundead 24 дні тому +1

      some of sj's difficulties (especially beginner and int) are slightly inflated difficulty wise compared to the usual definitions: begginner = 1a-2b, int=3b-farewell, adv=7c3+, expert=monika's d-sides

    • @codeninja3295
      @codeninja3295 21 день тому

      @@favretheundead ah, i didn’t know that, thanks! that explains a lot; my celeste mod knowledge is almost entirely limited to strawberry jam lol

  • @frejawennberg3454
    @frejawennberg3454 6 місяців тому +85

    This really shows for me how I’ve progressed. Still I am not very good and it takes thousands of deaths but I was struggling on a-side of most chapters and now I’m on chapter 4 or 5 b side. Still very difficult for me but knowing I’m getting better is so rewarding

    • @SG2048-meta
      @SG2048-meta 5 місяців тому +4

      Nice job! Where are you at now? I’m currently struggling on 7C.

  • @OtterCon
    @OtterCon 5 місяців тому +21

    After not playing Celeste in so many years, i finally got it on sale on steam not long ago, and it's pleasing to see that I'm sitting in the intermediate area! Excited to get into the custom content in time

  • @iamdonewitheverything
    @iamdonewitheverything 2 місяці тому +11

    3:00 Bee Berserk is probably the most funnest map I have played in the advanced section of SJ, the difficulty isn't too hard, and best of all is that the stamina is infinite 👍👍

    • @K0nomi
      @K0nomi Місяць тому +1

      100% agreed, its so fun

  • @dandyspacedandy
    @dandyspacedandy 3 місяці тому +10

    grandmaster+ levels look like malevolent entities of eldritch origin that you must take care not to upset, lest you fall prey to its many hazards and are consumed like the players who've come before you and the players who will come after.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  3 місяці тому +1

      its fun

    • @dandyspacedandy
      @dandyspacedandy 3 місяці тому

      @@egfloggygoggy they literally have teeth with which to eat you

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Місяць тому +2

      ⁠@@dandyspacedandy good thing you can jump off them sometimes

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Місяць тому +1

      also now I notice you say eldritch entities, the inputs to pass a GM level is more like a ritual
      do these actions at the correct time to appease the entity so that it doesn’t eat you. (meanwhile, TASes are just good enough to defeat the entity outright)

  • @ExtemTheHedgehogLol
    @ExtemTheHedgehogLol 6 місяців тому +47

    surprised that farewell isn't on this list honestly

    • @-Logan_Word-7437
      @-Logan_Word-7437 6 місяців тому +21

      Everything on this list you see past 7c is WAY harder than farewell, although I do agree that maybe the moon berry room is around the same difficulty as some of the c sides’ final rooms

    • @nicolascostantino4370
      @nicolascostantino4370 5 місяців тому +21

      From what Im seeing Farewell isnt difficult for any particular room its just the first endurance test new players will come across. Where 7c, while short, has one very difficult screen with the first intro of actually precise movement. Probably the hardest thing mechanically in the base game if we just go on each individual jump rather than the 5 minute section in farewell. Plus it fits easier into a video like this

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri 5 місяців тому +10

      farewell averages around intermediate difficulty and peaks at low advanced

    • @flango348
      @flango348 4 місяці тому +5

      It used the same mechanics as deep blue (a red intermediate) but isn’t really as difficult, so it might squeeze into red intermediate.

    • @DogeBlaster4000
      @DogeBlaster4000 4 місяці тому

      in my opinion farewells final room as well as the moon berry room are both a lot more difficult than the final room of 7c@@-Logan_Word-7437

  • @beans7747
    @beans7747 3 місяці тому +9

    i just finished my first sub 1-hour speedrun of celeste. saw this video and thought, i wonder if i know any of these. little did i know advanced green was the hardest i had ever done.

  • @digestivepikachu3721
    @digestivepikachu3721 4 місяці тому +21

    GDDH appears
    There’s 6 minutes left
    The next level is called US Presidential Election D-Side

  • @hungrypizzafox
    @hungrypizzafox 4 місяці тому +2

    This is just insane! I struggled on the last C side level and gave up, the fact these guys still pushed through on the most crazy levels and actually took the time to complete them is literally god tier! Props to anyone who made such a crazy accomplishment.

  • @Nyx__
    @Nyx__ 2 місяці тому +2

    After advanced I couldn't even grasp what was happening most of the time

  • @leonhard6327
    @leonhard6327 6 місяців тому +25

    After Expert I would be lost to some extent. Didn't get around to do many ultras and beyond yet.
    But I enjoyed seeing what is still to come, when I find the time to refine my skills |-')

  • @Lemony123
    @Lemony123 Місяць тому +3

    I just finished the summit like 3 days ago. Watching this make me wanna cry.

  • @beartheperson
    @beartheperson 3 місяці тому +4

    It's interesting to see how the progression goes from slow gameplay to levels of speed where it's hard to see your character, but then it slows down and relies more on precision.

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 2 місяці тому +3

      making extremely hard speed maps generally means stupidly dense inputs that can be physically painful to input
      so not yet, but we'll get there

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 місяці тому +2

      @@erierierierierie oh man there definitely will be one of those soon…

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 2 місяці тому +1

      @@egfloggygoggy ohhhh man

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 3 дні тому

      @@egfloggygoggyhmmm….. 🤔 I sure wonder what you meant by this

  • @setk1189
    @setk1189 26 днів тому +2

    I love how spikes are more of a suggestion than a hazard in this game.

  • @artificers-predecessor
    @artificers-predecessor 3 місяці тому +2

    Man, simply WATCHING a playthrough of kevintechspam sends dopamine rushing through my brain. That map is just awesome. The music is also stuck in my head.

  • @zuggo
    @zuggo 6 місяців тому +8

    you are my favourite dashless+ player!!!

  • @Cassiow106
    @Cassiow106 Місяць тому +1

    My ego was hurt, but my eyes were pleased by the skill displayed

  • @Potato79107
    @Potato79107 6 місяців тому +4

    This is madness good job

  • @sootchibootchi
    @sootchibootchi 4 місяці тому +2

    Can barely even comprehend what's happening on those SJ maps, props to dedicated Celeste players!

  • @ModestToast3073
    @ModestToast3073 4 місяці тому +6

    Just finished superstructure last night. Scared to tackle the rest of SJ lol. Some of those levels look absolutely insane.

    • @iamdonewitheverything
      @iamdonewitheverything 3 місяці тому +1

      Have you beaten Tower XVI yet, probably the most struggling level in SJ Advanced.

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Місяць тому +1

      tower XVI should be green expert, if the routing puzzle aspect wouldn’t be broken by the extra tech in expert
      should have made it cracked advanced

  • @bryxer7v7
    @bryxer7v7 4 місяці тому +1

    I've been playing celeste on and off for along time now like 4 years, I can get to mid intermediate if I put my all into it, this game is hard but fun somehow, I always love when I beat something I lost to a lot, the feeling of triumphant and beating that damn level is what brings me back.
    and also my ego. :P

  • @tofufiish
    @tofufiish 6 місяців тому +14

    lets go i love nelumbo (unbiased opinion)

  • @lamura1874
    @lamura1874 2 місяці тому +3

    the jump between expert and grandmaster seems quite insane, and i myself am at a low expert level, so yeah
    idk i'll see once i get there

  • @xolimono
    @xolimono 6 місяців тому +6

    SUPERSTRUCTURE APPEARANCE

    • @SSP2056
      @SSP2056 6 місяців тому

      Favorite advanced map imo

  • @DDi-bh3ud
    @DDi-bh3ud 2 місяці тому +1

    the progression here is so similar to dustforce and it’s such a shame it’s so slept on

  • @littlebigb5370
    @littlebigb5370 Місяць тому

    My biggest achievement in the game so far is seeing that Mirror Temple B-side segment, almost crying at how long it looked, and then, through sheer luck and reaction, doing it all in one attempt.

  • @REMdonor
    @REMdonor 5 місяців тому +1

    this is freaking crazy

  • @ImpureVessel
    @ImpureVessel 2 місяці тому +1

    7:36 The Knight appears, testing itself on platforming challenges on its quest to find a voice to cry suffering

  • @shadxw6281
    @shadxw6281 3 місяці тому +4

    Just here to say my piece. 7c3 is much harder than modded players give it credit. The last section is very awkward, and you need to target certain parts of the springs (not to mention that one drop down part). Sure, all tech needs a 5 frame timing, but it's the same universally so extended tech is pretty free. I'd put 7c3 in yellow advanced, and that room of bee beserk in green. The last room of it is harder than 7c3 though

  • @SG2048-meta
    @SG2048-meta 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m finally in the advanced section! I’ve nearly beaten 7C now, so it’s only a matter of time before I’m there!

  • @user-rx2oc5tl3u
    @user-rx2oc5tl3u 4 місяці тому +3

    As a person who thought gm was the highest, I was just in awe at the maps that are gm +3

  • @firemayro
    @firemayro 5 місяців тому +12

    you know it gets real when they make 71 different acronyms without spelling out the name

  • @ColonelCatDad
    @ColonelCatDad 29 днів тому

    i just started playing SJ and these harder maps are actually gonna hive me a heart attack 😭

  • @-Silent_G-
    @-Silent_G- 6 місяців тому +51

    Good video but the beginner to green advanced doesnt make sense. Farewell at most is red intermediate and for most of the level is just yellow int. Everything else in the base game including b sides is green int at the highest. For example, 7C only requires to to be a bit precise and know how to do wall bounces, but then the next highest difficulty you put requires you to know how to wave dash, hyper, super, know bubble dash tech, hyper bunnyhops(if im right), wallbounces, and reverse tech. Didn't mean to type this much but yee.

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 місяців тому +24

      The reason why that’s the case (why 7c3 requires so little tech compared to the next map) is because the other map is modded
      Modded maps utilize tech much more than vanilla, and also have different playstyles. 7c3 is an example of a non tech pure precision based screen, while most modded screens are based off of knowing how to use and perform tech while also being precise.
      It’s also commonly believed that farewell goes up to green advanced, with final and moonberry being the ones that make it go up to advanced.
      I think the list probably could’ve been improved if every single map in it was modded so the difference in play styles is more reasonable.

    • @EinsteinsBarber
      @EinsteinsBarber 6 місяців тому +7

      @@MagicianStevey i still dont agree with that, if you compare to the maps in sj for example green beginner is about the same difficulty as (maybe slightly harder than) 7a, and there are plenty of rooms in int that are harder than farewell. it maybe used to be considered advanced, but no longer. summit c side is also probably like red beginner-green int.
      not all modded maps are about using tech either, there are plenty even at high difficulties that use little to no tech (cmb and lava layer are great examples in gm)

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 6 місяців тому +2

      @@EinsteinsBarberfarewell definitely feels a little more like mid-high intermediate, especially during the middle CPs with stuff like comb room

    • @SG2048-meta
      @SG2048-meta 5 місяців тому

      @@EinsteinsBarberme at summit C-side reading this, thinking I reached advanced level:

    • @Hgtjb
      @Hgtjb 5 місяців тому +1

      После того как я поиграл в моды, вся селеста теперь beginner lobby

  • @NoThePizzaGone
    @NoThePizzaGone 4 місяці тому +5

    I've completed all of the base game, and I got into modding a while ago. I personally think that Forsaken City C-Side should be placed in Mid or Easy Intermediate, but maybe I just had an easier time with it than others.

  • @sladerade8476
    @sladerade8476 6 місяців тому +7

    I have never played Celeste but after this, idk if I even want to try

    • @flash93
      @flash93 6 місяців тому +19

      most of this is modded, the hardest vanilla ever gets is like red intermediate, this is slightly off. celeste is still a fantastic game and I highly reccomend it, it just has a very passionate modding community.

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@flash93Agreed. Celeste main levels are literally almost never hard (maybe c sides are hard but not really)

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 місяців тому +5

      The main game doesn't go above intermediate, and 90% of it is beginner according to this ranking system. The main game has tons of content (plus incredible music/story), but there are also TONS of custom maps that are similarly easy and a blast to play. Also, as you play, you get better naturally, so there's that.
      Don't let the game's insanity potential scare you away! That's like watching a chess master playing 5 games at once blindfolded, then deciding that you can't learn checkers.

  • @speedyjet
    @speedyjet 3 місяці тому +3

    Announcement: I am now expert 🥳

  • @MelonKing0627
    @MelonKing0627 4 місяці тому +4

    Once I made it to the red and shatter gm maps of strawberry jam it didn’t really feel as fun progressing through maps and the difficulty scale at all and I just sort of got burned out. It feels like I learned all of the tech besides from sub pixel perfect frame perfect c-pops which just doesn’t sound found for me. At one point I’ll probably get back in and actually finish the GMHS.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 місяці тому +4

      Fair enough yeah those maps are really brutal gl with gmhs though
      I find that the harder level maps are the most fun to play for me personally, they just feel so good to play and execute

  • @Godherselfxxo
    @Godherselfxxo 4 місяці тому

    Delusional canopys remixes on undertale songs go hard

  • @thenetheritebird
    @thenetheritebird Місяць тому +1

    I had to check my video playback speed more than once when I got into the Grandmaster levels. I blunked and they finished the screen, lmao

  • @niyo919
    @niyo919 Місяць тому +1

    The end of base game Celeste was one of the hardest platforming challenges I've ever done (harder than hollow knight's path of pain) and you're calling it easy mode? Jeeeesus, yall are cracked.

  • @skippygh0st248
    @skippygh0st248 2 місяці тому

    I have a feeling everyone past expert saw Mario Must Die and were like "yeah let's make this a real game"

  • @nathanmoreau1555
    @nathanmoreau1555 4 місяці тому

    "So, hard to think its over, right ?"

  • @SilicosisNotBeta
    @SilicosisNotBeta 4 місяці тому +4

    literally a new celeste player rn (i was forced to play celeste) and who tf named their celeste map "U.S Presidential Election D-Side"

  • @italicmuscle4786
    @italicmuscle4786 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm surprised farewell didn't make it into intermediate easy

  • @michaelyuzhe
    @michaelyuzhe 3 місяці тому +2

    Madeline wasn’t built for this much stress 😭😭

  • @teste_juggler
    @teste_juggler Місяць тому +1

    id love a breakdown / explaination of the gm+ rooms and why theyre so difficult. i have 200 hrs in vanilla but its still hard to determine whats going on, which makes it difficult to understand just how impressive this is

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 днів тому

      this comment was a while ago so a lot might have changed, but i recommend looking up parrot dash, since she has some videos that do that

  • @jakeguillot6246
    @jakeguillot6246 4 місяці тому +2

    I was going to say something about how beating the hardest level in the base game shouldn’t be advanced because it kind of degrades the achievement, but then I remembered I played terraria infernum + fargos souls, beat saber, and geometry dash and immediately changed my mind

  • @jeper3460
    @jeper3460 4 місяці тому +3

    As someone who has completed some levels in Advanced SJ, the hardest I think I could do (with my current skill) is red Expert or maybe yellow Grandmaster

  • @miscellaneouschaos6693
    @miscellaneouschaos6693 2 дні тому

    the celest devs are quivering in their boots rn

  • @Artoriandaraisin
    @Artoriandaraisin 11 днів тому +2

    Spider dance jumpscare

  • @commercialchase8442
    @commercialchase8442 Місяць тому +1

    The bubbles at 6:57 sync with the music

  • @facundosanchez261
    @facundosanchez261 21 день тому +2

    I've decided Celeste is the best community of all time, 0 toxicity and some of the best mods I've ever seen.

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 днів тому

      :clueless:

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 3 дні тому

      The only actual bad thing I’ve seen happen in this community is that one guy who made an ai chatbot of Parrot Dash

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 3 дні тому

      @@ThreeletterIGN and also all of hard list and a ton of the players being toxic etc

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 3 дні тому

      @@erierierierierie I’ve never seen that. I’ve been in the Celeste discord, Parrots discord and Valents discord for a while now and the only person I’ve seen who isn’t incredibly friendly and welcoming is the guy I talked about earlier. I’ve never seen any sort of toxicity aside from that

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 3 дні тому

      @@ThreeletterIGN how long is "a while" cause i know most of them have gotten themselves banned from most places

  • @BabyG1000
    @BabyG1000 4 місяці тому +1

    I am on golden ridge and thought I was getting good but now I’m scared for the difficulty spike that will come

  • @chriswong6871
    @chriswong6871 6 місяців тому +5

    is there any way to explain in words the difference between gm, gm+1, gm+2 and gm+3? as someone very inexperienced with celeste mods they just kinda look the same to me

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 місяців тому +12

      Ok so like, gm is really difficult but most players with 300-500 hours shouldn't have too bad of a time with the lower gm difficulties I think?
      Gm+1 is quite a lot harder than gm and requires lots and lots of experience with gm levels, I still spend around 3 hours to beat gm+1 rooms with almost 2k hours and 30+ gm maps cleared
      Individual Gm+2 rooms already gets close to farewell golden kinda difficulty, though most are still easier, top players usually wont beat a gm+2 rooms in a day
      And gm+3 is pretty much only ever done by the best players, the only gm+3 screen (which has been said to be baseline gm+3) has been done by barely any people, pretty much getting close to being too hard for humans

  • @KottonBall_
    @KottonBall_ 2 місяці тому +3

    if the first 3 are beginner then I’m never playing Celeste
    Edit: I got Celeste
    Edit 2: I’m on Farewell please help me

    • @togekiss09
      @togekiss09 2 місяці тому +1

      Beginner for modded standards, i 100%'d every single level in vanilla celeste but I struggle with advanced, most of vanilla is beginner and intermediate

  • @Creator_Chrris
    @Creator_Chrris 4 місяці тому +3

    As a newbie on playing celeste, what im the fucking tarnation is this shit

  • @twilcynder1435
    @twilcynder1435 5 місяців тому +2

    Are you sure about the beginner ones ? Haven't played a beginner lobby in a long time but iirc I felt like beginner 3 maps were more around 4-5B difficulty than 7A

  • @Smoldragoncat
    @Smoldragoncat 4 місяці тому

    Was surprised D1D7 wasn’t here

  • @hyingplantilina48
    @hyingplantilina48 Місяць тому

    one of the bests games that steamunlocked have

  • @Lumel-rw6wh
    @Lumel-rw6wh 6 місяців тому +3

    Who determines/created the + levels above gm? I’ve only ever seen various lists and sheets go up to gm

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 місяців тому +5

      Ngl there isnt a proper definer for the gm+ difficulties but are instead some commonly agreed opinions within the community, but the baseline for gm+2 is avian ascension final room and the baseline for gm+1 is around solar express final room difficulty

  • @gost7235
    @gost7235 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow, I'm very surprised that I'm even advanced green.(I will rather transfer to advanced yellow). I've been playing this game for over 50 hours. And I'm still not tired of her.

  • @ThreeletterIGN
    @ThreeletterIGN 6 місяців тому +12

    I feel like some of this is kind of inaccurate. I might make my own version if you’re ok with it

  • @tinyknott
    @tinyknott 2 місяці тому +1

    grandmaster +1: Hey kid, do you have claustrophobia?

  • @marufranco5281
    @marufranco5281 2 місяці тому +3

    I am genuinely curious man, how many hours of playtime do you have in Celeste by this point and how many hours do you play per week? are there any other games you play or are you dedicated to celeste assuming you play grandmaster levels?.
    I am asking because i am assuming that in order for me to reach that level of skill i would have to basically give up other games that i play.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 місяці тому +3

      I have 2400 hours
      SO many of those have gone to just creating and building my own maps, I believe that you would be able to get to grandmaster level in around 300 or so hours if you were to dedicate all your play time to improving your skill. Also I don't play any other games but that's just because I have an addiction to this game and not because I'm extremely dedicated to improving at the game

    • @davidalmeida5504
      @davidalmeida5504 2 місяці тому

      ​@@egfloggygoggyWell i have around 50 hours and i have all red berries (including the moon berry) so i guess there's only five times that to become a god

  • @karma6761
    @karma6761 5 місяців тому +9

    It’s funny how difficulty is so subjective at higher levels, like there’s a gap between Zigzag and MotU flag 2 but considering how hard Gm+1 is gatekept it’s smaller then you would think it is.

  • @misscatbird
    @misscatbird 6 місяців тому +11

    Base game only goes to red intermediate lol (including fw)

  • @HarryS77
    @HarryS77 Місяць тому

    Well, that was demoralizing.

  • @angular.deficit
    @angular.deficit 3 місяці тому +28

    0:00 : actual genders
    2:58 : mental illnesses

  • @doodlarix
    @doodlarix Місяць тому +1

    I show this video to my friends every time I explain celeste difficulty. "Why do you say you are intermediate when you have almost 100%" is a question that needs to be anwered. 100% is intermediate in this game.

  • @SnowSloth
    @SnowSloth 21 день тому

    im either end of advanced or beginner of expert and i could see myself reaching the end of expert but grandmaster is too much for me to ever reach, my brain cant even keep up with the beginning of grandmaster how can people get that good. my respect for top level celeste players is going through the roof watching this video

  • @drderpamine2498
    @drderpamine2498 6 місяців тому +3

    Does anyone know if Meaningless Contraptions is considered the easiest expert map in sj? If not which mal would it be, trying to get my first expert clear

    • @SplodZ
      @SplodZ 6 місяців тому +2

      it's up their for the easiest however i'd consider hydroshock to be the easiest as it is not as input dense and overall easier and shorter rooms, other easier maps imo are system.invalidmapexception, hypnagogia, and the core problem

    • @drderpamine2498
      @drderpamine2498 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SplodZ cool thx for the info

    • @ashleytheasteroid6444
      @ashleytheasteroid6444 6 місяців тому

      System.invalidmapexception took me like 20 minutes when most other greens took me ~1 hour, also Subway Neon is pretty chill and is an AMAZING level. Overgrown Linn is probably the next easiest after that IMO. Hypnogogia is only easy if you're already familiar with dream hypers, but is completely free if you are good at them.

  • @AceTechn0
    @AceTechn0 5 місяців тому +8

    I spent 3 hours on the last screen of Summit C-Side ALONE, seeing it at *Advanced* difficulty, and at the very START of Advanced difficulty, isn’t giving me much hope for my future endeavors into Modding CELESTE.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  5 місяців тому +11

      You'll improve at the game its not as bad as it seems, plus you don't have to play the high difficulties

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 місяців тому +5

      There are TONS of modded levels that are advanced or below. In fact most of my favorite maps are custom maps around that difficulty.
      DEFINITELY at least download Strawberry Jam--if you've beaten summit c side, the easiest strawberry jam maps will be super easy for you! It's a whole new experience, you won't regret it

    • @seanchernov7178
      @seanchernov7178 4 місяці тому +3

      Don't feel bad. I quit this game a year ago over 7C. Only now did it after a 5.5h attempt (divided into 2 days ago evening, night and yesterday noon). And about 8.5h if considering all prior failed attempts. I actually was so pessimistic because I couldn't reach even half of that final screen so I cheated and did 8C before under 2h surprisingly, this improved my skill but even then 5.5h... and also playing on Switch so no mods. I will be lucky if I ever beat level 9.

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 4 місяці тому +1

      @@seanchernov7178 Level 9 has one or two rooms that are debatably around the difficulty level of 7c.....I personally would rate 7c a bit harder than them.....but either way Farewell doesn't get much harder than what you've done. The issue is that it's consistently quite hard once you get a third of the way in--it isn't 7c hard but it's a long level
      Easily worth it, Farewell is an incredible experience

    • @BUGFlower413
      @BUGFlower413 3 місяці тому

      See ya in a couple months when you're already taking down grandmaster maps (you can do this ^u^)

  • @e_6868
    @e_6868 5 місяців тому +1

    ngl chapter 3 was a huge difficulty spike the first time i played

  • @DanzTheGB
    @DanzTheGB 3 місяці тому +2

    I complteted the strawberry jam intermediate lobby :>

  • @jeffreylu3626
    @jeffreylu3626 3 місяці тому +3

    good to know that im only a beginner after completing the entire game and having 50 hours on it 😭

    • @paolarei4418
      @paolarei4418 24 дні тому

      Chill, that still doesn't mean you're bad at it

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 3 дні тому

      I have over 750 hours and my hardest room is yellow gm+1

  • @speedyjet
    @speedyjet 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm a proud.. beginner.

  • @jarkkolaiho462
    @jarkkolaiho462 Місяць тому +1

    Jesus wept. I just completed Summit B-side with over 1200 deaths yesterday. I could maybe finish Summit C-side if I switch to keyboard, because there’s no way I have enough directional consistency on any of my 8bitdo pads to do it.

  • @tigerwizard6388
    @tigerwizard6388 Місяць тому

    Suddenly having gotten moonberry feels a lot less inpressiveXD

  • @pretzels1208
    @pretzels1208 2 місяці тому +2

    i've played the entirety of celeste and got all golden strawberries but never played any mods. any suggestions on good mods for a beginner like me?

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 місяці тому +3

      Strawberry jam, the earlier lobbies are pretty chill and its very high quality
      Not too sure about standalone mods

    • @pretzels1208
      @pretzels1208 2 місяці тому

      @@egfloggygoggy thanks for the suggestion

  • @xXPastelCatsXx
    @xXPastelCatsXx 6 місяців тому +2

    6:14 i dont know what the fuck i am looking at anymore

  • @ChatloupidUwU
    @ChatloupidUwU 4 місяці тому +3

    Never touched Celeste.
    This is all very, very cool looking, but I don't understand what's going on past like Advanced (or just partly).
    I would love a breakdown of the techniques of maybe even those specific rooms so I can appreciate these absolute gaming moments more.
    Any plans on doing that, or alternatively, where can I go for this ?

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 місяці тому +2

      If you wanna learn about some of the basic techniques used you can look up a speedrunning guide, a lot of speedrun tech is applied in the rooms shown. If you wanna look at the more obscure tech Parrot Dash has some videos covering lesser known tech

    • @ChatloupidUwU
      @ChatloupidUwU 4 місяці тому

      @@egfloggygoggy Cool ! Thanks a bunch, I will :3

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 4 місяці тому

      @@egfloggygoggy surely you do that 15 minute celeste tech explanation voice recording again

  • @deretti347
    @deretti347 6 місяців тому +4

    That is useful for vanilla Celeste players like me, I wonder if there is a Trials of Death level equivalent for this community

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 6 місяців тому +6

      Closest thing to it would be parrot dash’s 9D platinum berry grind! She streams it over on twitch (the in game timer is at 600 hours as of right now), but she expects it to take a few thousand hours, so the time spent playing is similar (not entirely sure about the difficulty - trials of death is REALLY hard to compare to any other game just because of how precise and difficult it is)

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 місяців тому

      @@nebulae5236 the difficulty is completely incomparable because ToD is mostly just really difficult, and 9dp is really long
      you cant really compare D+ to wmfcg for example. personally i could probably beat election d with very little effort compared to some people (its matches my skill set very well) but give me a t4 golden and i will cry

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 5 місяців тому +1

      @@erierierierierie I mean I did say closest thing to it. It’s the time sink more than anything, the mechanical difficulty of trials of death is literally the hardest, most precise thing in platforming history, but regardless, 9DP will take an absurdly long period of time. If you can think of a different comparison to trials of death in Celeste tho I’d love to hear it!

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 місяців тому

      @@nebulae5236 i dont know of anything mechanically similar to ToD in celeste, i dont believe anyone is openly grinding for something so hard. im currently making a map that will probably take me a few months to beat, but thats standard for hard things in this game now. i dont think it'll be too long until someone starts a years long celeste grind. rickfernello doing 202 deathless is fairly comparable though, i think? as something we're sure on since he completed it

    • @esteb7496
      @esteb7496 5 місяців тому

      ​@@erierierierierie9dp will be harder than 202 deathless but honestly i don’t think it’s as hard as tod, 9dp will probably take parrot dash around 2 and half years with ~2000 hours but iirc tod took 4k hours and 7 years