I feel like these "leaders" speak with SO MUCH such hidden anger, and they rely on guilting people into staying in this cult. If you quit, then that means you're weak and pathetic. It blows my mind how people can be so subtly cruel
Yes! It’s like they’re sitting there thinking, “Ugh, I have to talk to these idiots again.” It’s like they’re simultaneously annoyed that they have to do and say the same thing over and over and mad that people don’t just take their word for it and give them their money.
maybe the have to believe the "its your fault if you're not successful" thing to justify using these people to make money off them knowing most will fail... or maybe they are just shallow, awful people.
How about them not talking about their products they are selling. This whole structure is about recruiting. I’ve never seen a call where they talk About the product
I cringe at MLMs and especially when they say “support small businesses” honey you are not a small business! - coming from a legitimate business owner lol
exactly! as a writer, it is depressing to see how people will feel pressure to buy hundreds of dollars from someone's mlm but won't download a book people actually worked hard to make. My first novel came out Christmas and less than 1/3 of "friends" bought it. Literally several times the number of strangers gave me more support than people supposedly routing for me. Mind blown since I'm always getting invites to parties for MLMs and friends always buy something. At the holidays, I always ask my small business owners and artist friends to leave their link in the comments and get spammed with mlms. I'm like "no this is not your product or business model". I want my money to go to the person, not some other CEO or cult. SMH. What's your business?
@@paulabirchbillingsley8422 I know this half a year later but what is the name of your book? I like to read and often buy books to download for my daughter and mom. Good for you!! That is a major accomplishment!! 😎👍
My roommate listens and participates in these calls in our living room/kitchen or wherever I am at in the house that isn’t my room. She tries to make me listen to them and this is exactly what her upline says and it’s sooo toxic. I just wish she would realize lol
As someone who runs multiple work related meetings every week, my biggest nightmare is dragging people into something this POINTLESS and talking at them for an hour, good god.
@Nick Jones you're just a fannnnn thank you for being here. also per the state of Washington, the FTC and the FL state attorney general, this isn't a waste of time or energy.
@@IAMCCSuarez it is a complete waste of time ! you have nothing better to do it’s pathetic! Your trying to make money off something no one cares about and your channel will die out along with the conspiracy you chase. I can assure you and the losers that follow I’m no fan of the rubbish you spout. Good day
I can’t imagine how exhausted a lot of these mlm huns are.... constantly on their phone, lack of boundaries, keeping up with all the different lies, contradictions... being basically berated by their uplines and ‘positively’ spoken down on these team calls, yet getting no TANGIBLE resources or training ... nothing they can actually write down in a notebook except general phrases *worded hundreds of different times.. makes sense why they’re so crabby even when they’re trying to be positive
A girl who is trying to suck me into joining (lol no) grew up in an abusive household where she was never validated and was constantly beaten down and it just blows my mind shes apart of this now...
The belittling is probably pretty much the same in every mlm. My previous uplines were the same when I was in an mlm years ago. «If you don’t work you’re not as good as me», basically.
Cracking up at the "WHERE ARE YOU GOING!? WHERE!?" 😂 😂 I have an 11 year old in 5th grade and she's always like "So and so is going out with so and so but so and so wants to go out with so and so omg mom so much drama!" I'm like, "Ya'll are in 5th grade! WHERE 👏🏼 ARE 👏🏼 YOU 👏🏼 GOING!? 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 The cafeteria!? The slide!? The library!? WHERE!? 😂 😂
@@aimeexo4402 yes and no 😂 part of travel, hotel and part of the food is paid for but not everything! Not that I ever went on one because only like 2% make it to that level 😂
How alone and confused must those people in the zoom call feel on not receiving any training. They think this the "motivational" speech is the training🤨 🙄
Omg same. I spent 450 on product which I honestly thought I was selling She said "oh shit, that's just for you" Oh boy I haven't gotten that yet in the mail.
I was in an MLM for a brief time and one thing that really showed me how it made no sense is that my sponsor didn't want to answer questions I had. She told me she thought it was better for me to hunt down the answer even though she knew the answer, because that would make me feel stronger in my business. Like, what?!
You can tell that these ladies have never been in a sales position. I currently work as a sales assistant at an assistant living home. When we have training calls/emails we talk about possible responses and questions to ask clients, we ask each other questions etc.. Like you said, none of that was mentioned in this ‘training’, just a lot of belittling.
I’m a salesperson and customer service representative. You are absolutely correct when it comes to training. This is just awful management and leadership.
Such a good perspective. I have not done sales, but have been in real business calls and training meetings, and this is absurdly unprofessional and not helpful at all. If this was a company I worked for, I would quit.
Many of these people havent had a 'normal corp job' so they don't understand that this IS NOT training. This is not a meeting. This is a cult sermon lol
What I find most telling about these people, is that they say A WHOLE LOT without ever saying anything. They kind of repeat the same, self-help “believe in yourself” and “work hard and you’ll succeed” tropes. They lack any real information, specific data on what works and what doesn’t, AND THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THE PRODUCTS. Because the products are shit, and they don’t make money selling. They make money recruiting, and that’s the issue.
She doesn’t give anyyyy info about the products, how to market them, what works.. she’s just yelling that you’re a loser and it’s your fault! This is the least motivating rant I’ve ever heard.
These phone calls have 0 actionable items, but so many call to actions... Why? Because these calls are designed to be motivational, not actionable. The people running these calls don't know how to run a business... When you're in an actual business meeting or planning meeting, you have problems, you come up with solutions, and you come up with new plans and actions that you need to complete in order to succeed. These calls are always, "Just work better!" You're so right, CC Suarez, in saying that these calls usually don't dissect what's working and what isn't working for these distributors. They don't do any self-reflection in their operational methods because the people running these meetings didn't get to where they are with operational or business skills... They got to their position by recruiting people with motivation and facade.
The audacity that these chicks have to waste a bunch of other people’s time by holding them hostage on a freaking Zoom call while proceeding to give condescending lectures about how not spending every waking moment ‘working the business’ equates to wasting time is both tragically ironic but also kinda hysterical.
Lol I just showed him that comment and he said " I told you it added to the video!!" B/c of course when I was editing I was like ' Tony I can hear your deep ass voice through like half of this video!!!' I was so annoyed lol 😂 😆
They're so desperate to convince themselves they're doing something worthwhile and brave. Good lord, you're not fighting for justice or saving lives, you're selling shampoo.
My name is Jamie, a Registered Nurse from the UK. God im soo grateful I have a career and never fell for this bullcrap. When I was a Student, I had a friend who was a fellow student nurse and she was in an MLM and they were telling her to quit nursing school to concentrate on her 'buisness'. Thank god she didn't. Subscribed, I love this stuff 🤣
Unfortunately my friend is in Monat and she suddenly talks just like them. It takes everything in me not to be like girl your in a cult! She’s always talking about “this opportunity”
Mhmmm one of the many things they repeat on a daily basis is how "you don't have to hit a quota, or have deadlines" meanwhile on their training calls they talk about how important it is to do x, y, z before whatever date to hit whatever rank. SCAM.
bait and switch girl!!!!! I'm hoping more people who are about to join will see this video and then realize OMG this is not what they are preaching when trying to recruit me. and then not join.
I love that you have a real, corporate sales job because I'm a legitimate social media marketer and I partner with our internal sales teams a lot. What MLMs do is NOT social selling OR social media marketing 😅
and its not affiliate marketing. Sometimes they call it that as well. With affiliate marketing youre using links or codes for ppl to use. They don't do that lol. They are limited themselves heavily by only pushing/supporting one product.
new to the channel, my best friend has been an mlm guy for a few years now. it angers me to no end. He calls himself an “entrepreneur” and says he has his own business etc etc. my wife runs her own business and i see how much work she had put into it and to have people like that trying to put themselves in the same category angers me lol
My sis in law has been doing Mary Kay for 23 years. Now that I have recently joined, last October, I have being seeing the red flags. I’ve been going down an anti MLM rabbit hole for about a week now and kicking myself. My brother had three jobs at a time most of their marriage. I wonder why!! She’s my director, a sweet person and it’s going to be hard to let her down. I really had no idea what an MLM really was, fun learning about it now!
Any real business owner would know that bad management is the top reason that people leave a job, and if your turnaround rate is that high, that doesn't say good things about "your business"
They say the same exact sorts of things that the cult did that I grew up in. My cult sold salvation, they sell shampoo. Same exact tactics. There’s so much wrong here. One thing is for sure, religious leaders are getting paid too much. Turns out people can just brainwash each other. :(
I swear most mlm’ers are narcissistic, and seriously only speak word salad. A lot of chat but no real substance or meaning. Just found your channel and now binging all of these.
The time thing is one of the things that cured me of MLMs for good. I was so sick and tired of being made to feel guilty for not working every free second of every day. Now, my husband and I own a legit business (offices, warehouse, one retail location and another opening soon), and when we have days off WE HAVE DAYS OFF. Yeah we might need to answer a couple of emails but that’s it. We aren’t glued to our phones and laptops while our kids play in the pool. Edited to Add: If every single MLM swears up down and sideways that they’re products and ONLY their products are the best, then what truly is the best? 🧐
@@IAMCCSuarez Well in the interest of full disclosure, since Covid shut down our kids’ school last spring I’ve been a badass stay at home mom boss babe. 😜 I miss going in to the office and I wish I could take some tasks back but this is my life right now. 🤷♀️
"I believe the hair, skin and wellness products we have are the best in the world" honey, I can believe the sky is green all damn day...doesn't make it true
I’m addicted to these mlm videos, I need an intervention lmao 😂 I swear they all say the same thing...no matter what the product. And they never actually talk about the products, like why? Its cuz the product is irrelevant, the money is in the recruiting and profiting off of the work of your down line. It’s so depressing, it’s like they’re playing house pretending to be CEOs it’s bizarro 🤷♀️ I can’t look away. HELP!
Hi! New here and am subscribing! I have binging your videos and as someone who was once a MP for Monat (which I wholeheartedly regret) everything you say is so true. I started it to make some extra money as I was a new mom and in extreme debt. I was in such a desperate and vulnerable state as I wasn’t even 2 months postpartum and not even a month into the “business” I felt so taken advantage of and didn’t want to do it anymore. But the up lines guilt trip you and belittle you so bad that it makes you feel like you can’t tell them no. I slowly started seeing the how sketchy and scammy Monat was and it made me really hate myself for some time for even posting about it. I ended up struggling with extreme postpartum depression for 3+ months and my upline basically told me that I was using that as an excuse to not work lol. I even watched a training call from a specific MP who was like a director and she was SWEARING at all of us for not working hard enough or whatever the case. There is so much more I could say but THANK YOU for these videos because they HONESTLY show/explain exactly what goes on in Monat. It’s not worth it and I really wish I had saw your videos before I joined because I would have saved myself a shit ton of money and stress.
So I’ve gotten put in a groupchat with ladies who do this monat company trying to get me to join. I did my research and told them I didn’t want to do it due to the facts I’ve found on the internet. For example trying to sell me a lifestyle. And she said I was wrong and that everything was misinformation
Everything starts with you. If you are ambitious and driven you will be more likely to become successful in whatever you do in life. Nothing to do with a cult or a scam here. This is motivational. Inspirational. Learning from people that are incredibly successful. Just like any job or work you do, you need to actually do the work 🤣 or you’ll get fired. Like what you’re doing here, you are consistent, you show up, you get haters. Monat market partners truly believe in their products, just like you truly believe in being a hater. What’s the difference? Literally if you change your mindset / perspective you can change your life. It’s common knowledge and basic life skills. There are thousands of calls each year where they get trainings on social media etc etc.. this is a mindset training call. You preach not being a hater or rude, but that’s all you’re doing here.
I’m somewhat new to your mlm playlist, and I’m hoping somewhere this leads to a full fledge confrontation....with peace and love! That would be changing lives,which you are also doing one video at a time!
Yeah, I knew I didn’t wanna be in monat. I was so iffy & it felt like a pyramid scheme & I even told them that lol. They said you just have to believe in yourself & work hard. With a negative attitude you’re not gonna get any where. I’m a sahm mom with two boys. I’ll stick to focusing on my college work.😌 especially after watching all of your videos!
Basically you have to believe every little thing they tell you and if not they say thats why you aren't making money. Then they'll say you're toxic. In reality if you question it you're thinking for yourself and ultimately not making them money.
“There’s a girl at the top eating noodles, which I love it, I’m hungry” 😂😂 idk why but I spit out my food laughing when you said that. Anyways very true. These calls seem so annoying with their “mentors”. Like I wouldn’t be inspired or listen to a thing they say.
Girl how are you not blowing up?!! UA-cam needs to check itself, this is the full truth that more people need to hear!! I’m new to your channel and I love it! Subscribed ✅ keep doing you!! Love it 💖
New sub. I love how you research and educate (rather politely) with factual information in the few vids I've watched. You come across as classy and educated and I'm excited to see more. Also, thanks for leaving all of those links in the description.💗
You and tonys banter is actually fucking hilarious. When tony said “wait did she just say she’s still struggling!?!?” I died. Lol I absolutely love you two so much!
I am so irritated how she said success doesn’t fall into your lap when that’s how the opportunity calls go. They wait til you pay to tell you you work like a dog.
I enjoy the valuable information you’ve provided. Thanks 🤩 New to your channel, I’m 52 Latina Wife & Mom. You have truly educated me on MLM vs Influencer.
Chiming in on the manifesting thing: I want her to stop talking about it because she seems a bit confused 😕 she doesn't really seem to believe that you can manifest success. She kept going on about having to work hard, then gave affirmations, then back to believe and receive. I'm not one to allow limiting beliefs but how she's training definitely won't help anyone manifest success especially in this pyramid scheme.
Honestly having first hand experience of being in Monat and seeing it from the inside and now being out of it just seeing how fucked it is.. it’s just so crazy because everything they preach to you to like get you to join is the exact opposite of what it really is and it’s crazy how I couldn’t see that when I was in it. It’s so toxic, them literally saying you could have all the freedoms you want and then tell you that you have to work every second of every day and then try to make you feel like shit for not doing that and disguise it as caring about you 🤦🏽♀️
A lot of the time it’s people in a hard spot hoping to make an income. People don’t always think clearly or stop and think and research when caught in a desperate situation with a time crunch. Moms lose jobs or a partner loses a job and they’re sucked in trying to fill a financial gap and they perceive they’ll also save on daycare expenses by staying home (I watched a friend get sucked in due to circumstances like this. Thankfully she was out within 2 month. But it happens to good and smart people that find themselves in bad circumstances.)
I deleted facebook :) anxiety galore. Also, they should make a record of how many people joined 2 years ago and actually made it vs those who did not vs those who quit so people will see this is not as advertised
I completely agree. and Yes same regarding FB I deleted the app from my phone. I cant delete it bc I have my business page linked to it and if I deleted if it wouldnt let me have my IG as a business page. so annoying. so I just dont really use it at all.
The biggest contradiction is that MLM's rely heavily on their 'members' using the internet & phones. The same people can use the same internet & phones to explore these companies before they join.
I'd like to know how many of their friends and family have stopped talking to them while they were 'building their team' for 'their business'. That's a stat I'd like to know.
I've been on the fence of trying their products because my best friend is in it but the prices are hella expensive. Also, I found your channel just doing some research haha! Love the energy and so I subscribed 😋
YAS. THIS. YAS. My area is flooded with Arbonne and I am seeing so many girls from my high-school posting about "starting their businesses" and people I was barely friends with reaching out to me. My cousin joined Arbonne 2 years ago and I had managed to avoid getting sucked in although she did manage to get me to sign up as an Independent Consultant because the discount on the products makes it affordable (but I refuse to sell or recruit). Anyway, after watching your videos I just can't even give another dime to these scams. I'll find an equitable protein powder product that's more affordable somewhere else. Definitely sucks because this could mean losing my relationship with my cousin since I doubt I can change her mind. :/
A friend of mine’s girlfriend is a Monat “hun”. Her Instagram story consists of anywhere from 20-30 slides a day and 98% of them are regarding Monat. She’s always saying how grateful she is to work from her bed and boasts about how lazy she really is. What makes me laugh all the time is when she takes her “Greens”, which is a powder that you mix with water that has X amount of vegetables in it. She talks about how she never used to get enough vegetables in her diet and how the “greens” make up for it. “I feel so much better since I started taking my greens and if I don’t have them I crave junk food”. 😂 But the BEST part about it? She always says how good the greens taste but when she takes them on camera she literally uses 1/3 of the pre measured scoop!!! Yeah, they must be delicious when you can’t even handle the serving size. 🤣🤣
Hey there! Im new to this channel and I love it. Thank you for calling these ppl out! I got into an mlm few months ago (doterra) because i got hooked as well, but fortunately after 1 week i got out of it because i didn't want to spend more money and i realized it doesn't bring me any good. But i was unaware of mlm-s, so i was an easy prey... not now though hahaha Hugs, Mesi
Without all this tea ☕️ in the ANTI-MLM videos- I have always known that I am not designed for the MLM life (even with the dreams they sell)... but now my question is: on these Zoom calls are the attendees not allowed to ask “but you said it was easy, you said I will have all the free time in the world... what happened to all of that?” Someone get me on these calls - I will ask, just to frustrate the living daylights out of them. Don’t they tell people they will get paid for washing their hair? Now they tell them they will struggle for 2 years... I died twice 🤞🏽😂
I was sittin here waiting for you to just start going off on these women and putting them in their place during the conference call. Lmao.. impressed you held it all in😄
Just found you. New subscriber here. Thank you for doing this, a LOT of people need this type of education. This is straight up SCARY! Why is she yelling??? It is soooo agressive. Oh dear god this is awful. I always thought these are scams but this is just pure horror.
"Show up where??!" I love how your husband is so invested too! XD I mean, are they selling products or are they selling memberships to a terrible "self help" club? If you want to create a club than fine but don't hide behind shampooooooo!
He is ridiculously supportive lol at first he didnt really get it. He thought I was just roasting people. But now that he knows I bring facts and educate he loves it.
LOL! What was going on over in the zoom call chat? Yikes! Hi, I’m Annamarie and I’m new to your channel. I’m a bit addicted to anti-MLM content and I love how all of you are just trying to help people. Keep it up.
Lol... girl they were all saying that they deleted their tiktok apps from their phone bc it was a time waster... so weird. Then they were saying hoe 'hyped' they got.
I wish these women out there "hustling" doing more work than a reliable job would require to make a "million dollars" (which isn't going to be as much as you think) would see they are going to regret the time they are missing with their kids. Trust me. I know how bad it feels to be a sahm and how little value you feel when you bring in no income, even though you save your household money- hell you make your household a household. But these women are missing time and memories they will never get back. It is so much more valuable than just a million dollars. These "team leads" are working their "friends" to death to make a buck off them knowing damn well most won't turn a profit, and the kids are the ones suffering. (I am pro working moms- great role models!- but typically when you get off work you get off and spend time with the kids, not get on "meetings" and push invites on social media all night).
I left 2 weeks ago and I was with Monat for 2 months and omg the best decision ever was to leave, it is such a cult, I am new to your channel and I love it!
KATHY I HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU!!! Which ones were you in and how long and did you rank how much money did you lose and most of all ARE YOU OKAY???
Literally was on the fence about quitting since the day I started Monat and after watching your video i finally emailed (3 people) to quit
Just call customer service and tell them you want to cancel your account. It’s that simple!
you dont need to email 3 different people and go through all of that. you have to call customer service. emailing your upline is not the way.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 yesss
I know I’m WAY late, but - CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You got out!
Good for you!
Many many thanks to Chelsea too, of course!
I realize you quit 3 years ago, but also wanted to say GOOD FOR YOU
Imagine someone with no credibility telling you what to do and how to run your business that you supposedly all own
LOL. it's not a difference of opinion its a difference of reality.
Lmao this is hilarious. How DO thousands of people own one business.
i just quit like a week ago, and i was only in it for a month but Jesus, it's annoying and so fake , we gotta do a podcast.
I’m so happy you’re out!!
I think a podcast/interview about your experience in an MLM would be interesting to listen to
Mario you haven’t sent me your story yet have you? Get it together email that shit over.
Omg girl same was in it for like 3 weeks and just quit !!
I was on it for a whole year! Made $0 & when I my annual renewal came up I didn’t rejoin.
I feel like these "leaders" speak with SO MUCH such hidden anger, and they rely on guilting people into staying in this cult. If you quit, then that means you're weak and pathetic. It blows my mind how people can be so subtly cruel
The fact that people don't see it...
Yes! It’s like they’re sitting there thinking, “Ugh, I have to talk to these idiots again.” It’s like they’re simultaneously annoyed that they have to do and say the same thing over and over and mad that people don’t just take their word for it and give them their money.
As I said before very cultish I'm glad more people are speaking up
I got scammed💀
maybe the have to believe the "its your fault if you're not successful" thing to justify using these people to make money off them knowing most will fail... or maybe they are just shallow, awful people.
Just *manifest* 1 million dollars ladies!!! ITS ABOUT THE MINDSET!!!
The manifest trend is such a load of bull
Better just anti-manifest my depression
And if you didn’t get it...well huni you just didn’t want it had enough 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@dantexventa3695 I thought she was joking! Right? Wait, she was joking right? 😂😂🤔🙄
@@sadrabbit53 : Yes! Like, why didn’t I think of that before?
How about them not talking about their products they are selling. This whole structure is about recruiting. I’ve never seen a call where they talk
About the product
never ever learning about product knowledge
bam! exactly. pyramid scheme red flag right there.
Bruh I didn't even notice 😬
Ditto.
I cringe at MLMs and especially when they say “support small businesses” honey you are not a small business! - coming from a legitimate business owner lol
IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO STRESS THAT AROUND THE HOLIDAYS TOO!!!
exactly! as a writer, it is depressing to see how people will feel pressure to buy hundreds of dollars from someone's mlm but won't download a book people actually worked hard to make. My first novel came out Christmas and less than 1/3 of "friends" bought it. Literally several times the number of strangers gave me more support than people supposedly routing for me. Mind blown since I'm always getting invites to parties for MLMs and friends always buy something. At the holidays, I always ask my small business owners and artist friends to leave their link in the comments and get spammed with mlms. I'm like "no this is not your product or business model". I want my money to go to the person, not some other CEO or cult. SMH. What's your business?
@@paulabirchbillingsley8422 I know this half a year later but what is the name of your book? I like to read and often buy books to download for my daughter and mom. Good for you!! That is a major accomplishment!! 😎👍
My roommate listens and participates in these calls in our living room/kitchen or wherever I am at in the house that isn’t my room. She tries to make me listen to them and this is exactly what her upline says and it’s sooo toxic. I just wish she would realize lol
You could always watch my videos in the living room LOL
Any update on your roommate? Did she get out alive?!
Also I agree with CC id blast these so they can hear on the call lol
@@IAMCCSuarez great idea
Is she still in? 👀
I just placed the order for my first time and I’m so glad I came to read some reviews and had time to cancel my order.
✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
As someone who runs multiple work related meetings every week, my biggest nightmare is dragging people into something this POINTLESS and talking at them for an hour, good god.
"I worked every single day, for months and months, for 2 and a half years". But I thought I could do this in my spare time and make millions?!?!
I love the Anti MLM movement, your commentary, your deep dive & your commentary 🥰
Thank you so much!
what why
That’s because your stupid also ! Your comment is a stupid as you and this movement ! What a waste of time and energy !
@Nick Jones you're just a fannnnn thank you for being here.
also per the state of Washington, the FTC and the FL state attorney general, this isn't a waste of time or energy.
@@IAMCCSuarez it is a complete waste of time ! you have nothing better to do it’s pathetic! Your trying to make money off something no one cares about and your channel will die out along with the conspiracy you chase. I can assure you and the losers that follow I’m no fan of the rubbish you spout. Good day
who wants to struggle every day every minute every second....? Also, why do they all talk the same?
Because 👏🏼 it’s👏🏼 a 👏🏼 CULT👏🏼
Having my life so rigidly structured to the point where I would have to *time my leisurely scrolling on tiktok* would spike my anxiety so high...
Team calls are my favorite videos to watch because you really hear the real shit in these. I hope you're able to do more of these
More coming this month 😛😛😛
They literally didn’t have ANY actual training. It’s just platitudes!
such a waste of time!!!!
i’m sorry they just pick one thing and say it over and over again in different ways
I can’t imagine how exhausted a lot of these mlm huns are.... constantly on their phone, lack of boundaries, keeping up with all the different lies, contradictions... being basically berated by their uplines and ‘positively’ spoken down on these team calls, yet getting no TANGIBLE resources or training ... nothing they can actually write down in a notebook except general phrases *worded hundreds of different times.. makes sense why they’re so crabby even when they’re trying to be positive
A girl who is trying to suck me into joining (lol no) grew up in an abusive household where she was never validated and was constantly beaten down and it just blows my mind shes apart of this now...
This has to be the worst "pep talk" ever. It's so belittling. They sound so angry
Not even the worse I have heard! I have heard yelling and cussing!
right? all those self help books they read they should have read one on speaking to people instead.
The belittling is probably pretty much the same in every mlm. My previous uplines were the same when I was in an mlm years ago. «If you don’t work you’re not as good as me», basically.
More like desperation.
Cracking up at the "WHERE ARE YOU GOING!? WHERE!?" 😂 😂 I have an 11 year old in 5th grade and she's always like "So and so is going out with so and so but so and so wants to go out with so and so omg mom so much drama!" I'm like, "Ya'll are in 5th grade! WHERE 👏🏼 ARE 👏🏼 YOU 👏🏼 GOING!? 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 The cafeteria!? The slide!? The library!? WHERE!? 😂 😂
I left monat a few weeks ago, after nearly a year! Can’t believe it took me so long to realise the truth! Love this video 💕
so happy you left!
This warms my heart! So happy for you. 🧡
So are the trips really free??
@@aimeexo4402 yes and no 😂 part of travel, hotel and part of the food is paid for but not everything! Not that I ever went on one because only like 2% make it to that level 😂
Thank you for sharing Gemma
How alone and confused must those people in the zoom call feel on not receiving any training. They think this the "motivational" speech is the training🤨 🙄
yet its just useless rambling
Every mlm team call is the same iv heard 3 or 4 companies they say ALL the same things.
No mention of the products and selling points? Just berating minions to recruit recruit? Sounds like a legit business to me 🙄
I joined Monat 2 months ago. I really wish I had seen this video before. 😭😭 Thank you for this
Omg same. I spent 450 on product which I honestly thought I was selling
She said "oh shit, that's just for you"
Oh boy
I haven't gotten that yet in the mail.
@@leecbsavage5735 noooooo‼️😣😭
call your bank/CC company and cancel the order, and cancel your account/membership with Monat. 😔😠💚💜
Did you get out? Tell me you canceled and ran!!
I was in an MLM for a brief time and one thing that really showed me how it made no sense is that my sponsor didn't want to answer questions I had. She told me she thought it was better for me to hunt down the answer even though she knew the answer, because that would make me feel stronger in my business. Like, what?!
Girl mine too, told me I had to find things on my own. Its all a scam to get you to sign up, then once you sign up your on your own.
You can tell that these ladies have never been in a sales position. I currently work as a sales assistant at an assistant living home. When we have training calls/emails we talk about possible responses and questions to ask clients, we ask each other questions etc.. Like you said, none of that was mentioned in this ‘training’, just a lot of belittling.
I’m a salesperson and customer service representative. You are absolutely correct when it comes to training. This is just awful management and leadership.
Such a good perspective. I have not done sales, but have been in real business calls and training meetings, and this is absurdly unprofessional and not helpful at all. If this was a company I worked for, I would quit.
These “trainings” are such a waste of time. It’s just “busy work” - ugh - thank you for making these videos!
Doing gods work! Lol
Many of these people havent had a 'normal corp job' so they don't understand that this IS NOT training. This is not a meeting. This is a cult sermon lol
@@IAMCCSuarez Preach! Hahaha
She’s “hustling”
Cult tactic #1 is sleep deprivation that’s why they encourage early morning work out zooms & late night trainings, etc. it’s wild
What I find most telling about these people, is that they say A WHOLE LOT without ever saying anything. They kind of repeat the same, self-help “believe in yourself” and “work hard and you’ll succeed” tropes. They lack any real information, specific data on what works and what doesn’t, AND THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THE PRODUCTS. Because the products are shit, and they don’t make money selling. They make money recruiting, and that’s the issue.
She doesn’t give anyyyy info about the products, how to market them, what works.. she’s just yelling that you’re a loser and it’s your fault! This is the least motivating rant I’ve ever heard.
I wish someone in these calls would just chime in while she’s talking and tell her she’s wrong. I’d love to see it happen and how these mlm huns react
These phone calls have 0 actionable items, but so many call to actions... Why? Because these calls are designed to be motivational, not actionable. The people running these calls don't know how to run a business... When you're in an actual business meeting or planning meeting, you have problems, you come up with solutions, and you come up with new plans and actions that you need to complete in order to succeed. These calls are always, "Just work better!" You're so right, CC Suarez, in saying that these calls usually don't dissect what's working and what isn't working for these distributors. They don't do any self-reflection in their operational methods because the people running these meetings didn't get to where they are with operational or business skills... They got to their position by recruiting people with motivation and facade.
The audacity that these chicks have to waste a bunch of other people’s time by holding them hostage on a freaking Zoom call while proceeding to give condescending lectures about how not spending every waking moment ‘working the business’ equates to wasting time is both tragically ironic but also kinda hysterical.
It’s so insane that they think this is professional behavior
@@IAMCCSuarez Right?! If any of us behaved that way in a professional work environment, we would be fired on the spot.
@@The4thSoprano that is always one of my biggest takeaways from these team calls. If my boss talked to me that way at a job, I’d quit the next minute.
I think Tony's incredulity in the background really makes this video- we are all thinking it!
Lol I just showed him that comment and he said " I told you it added to the video!!" B/c of course when I was editing I was like ' Tony I can hear your deep ass voice through like half of this video!!!' I was so annoyed lol 😂 😆
Tony's is all that oh my goodness that was great you should do one together
I think we might need a Tony reacts video haha
‘That was amazing! Always spitting fire.’ Sorry, I’m just gonna need to go throw up my lunch right now.
LOL right ? the worst.
They're so desperate to convince themselves they're doing something worthwhile and brave. Good lord, you're not fighting for justice or saving lives, you're selling shampoo.
I laughed my ass of when she said that 😂😂
My eyes rolled so hard when she said that lmaoooo
My name is Jamie, a Registered Nurse from the UK. God im soo grateful I have a career and never fell for this bullcrap. When I was a Student, I had a friend who was a fellow student nurse and she was in an MLM and they were telling her to quit nursing school to concentrate on her 'buisness'. Thank god she didn't. Subscribed, I love this stuff 🤣
Unfortunately my friend is in Monat and she suddenly talks just like them. It takes everything in me not to be like girl your in a cult! She’s always talking about “this opportunity”
Ugh. Just ugh.
Mhmmm one of the many things they repeat on a daily basis is how "you don't have to hit a quota, or have deadlines" meanwhile on their training calls they talk about how important it is to do x, y, z before whatever date to hit whatever rank. SCAM.
bait and switch girl!!!!! I'm hoping more people who are about to join will see this video and then realize OMG this is not what they are preaching when trying to recruit me. and then not join.
I love that you have a real, corporate sales job because I'm a legitimate social media marketer and I partner with our internal sales teams a lot. What MLMs do is NOT social selling OR social media marketing 😅
and its not affiliate marketing. Sometimes they call it that as well. With affiliate marketing youre using links or codes for ppl to use. They don't do that lol. They are limited themselves heavily by only pushing/supporting one product.
new to the channel, my best friend has been an mlm guy for a few years now. it angers me to no end. He calls himself an “entrepreneur” and says he has his own business etc etc. my wife runs her own business and i see how much work she had put into it and to have people like that trying to put themselves in the same category angers me lol
Your wife is a gem. So are you. Your bestfriend is a turd 😂 how many has he been in?
My sis in law has been doing Mary Kay for 23 years. Now that I have recently joined, last October, I have being seeing the red flags. I’ve been going down an anti MLM rabbit hole for about a week now and kicking myself. My brother had three jobs at a time most of their marriage. I wonder why!! She’s my director, a sweet person and it’s going to be hard to let her down. I really had no idea what an MLM really was, fun learning about it now!
go you for respecting and supporting your wife as a legitimate business owner!
Any real business owner would know that bad management is the top reason that people leave a job, and if your turnaround rate is that high, that doesn't say good things about "your business"
YEP!
Cult vibes. never heard of a company so aggressive... who literally bully their members or to them their "bffs".
Almost all MLMs are like this.
They say the same exact sorts of things that the cult did that I grew up in. My cult sold salvation, they sell shampoo. Same exact tactics. There’s so much wrong here. One thing is for sure, religious leaders are getting paid too much. Turns out people can just brainwash each other. :(
I’m sort of glad she gave up teaching tho...preaching at the kids.
Jehovah?
myguysneaker 1, yep!
Damn 🤯
Every one that’s in an MLM has the same influx in tone when they speak to you: Patronizing with a hint of positivity.
100% accurate
I swear most mlm’ers are narcissistic, and seriously only speak word salad. A lot of chat but no real substance or meaning. Just found your channel and now binging all of these.
The time thing is one of the things that cured me of MLMs for good. I was so sick and tired of being made to feel guilty for not working every free second of every day. Now, my husband and I own a legit business (offices, warehouse, one retail location and another opening soon), and when we have days off WE HAVE DAYS OFF. Yeah we might need to answer a couple of emails but that’s it. We aren’t glued to our phones and laptops while our kids play in the pool.
Edited to Add: If every single MLM swears up down and sideways that they’re products and ONLY their products are the best, then what truly is the best? 🧐
Congrats on being a badass actual hashtag bossbabe! ✊🏻
@@IAMCCSuarez Well in the interest of full disclosure, since Covid shut down our kids’ school last spring I’ve been a badass stay at home mom boss babe. 😜 I miss going in to the office and I wish I could take some tasks back but this is my life right now. 🤷♀️
*If I was on this Zoom call* "I wasted an hour on Tik Tok." Nope, but I've wasted an hour on this dumb Zoom call 😂
"I believe the hair, skin and wellness products we have are the best in the world"
honey, I can believe the sky is green all damn day...doesn't make it true
I’m going to BeLiEvE I will win the lottery so that I CAN win the lottery!!
the delusions
I’m addicted to these mlm videos, I need an intervention lmao 😂 I swear they all say the same thing...no matter what the product. And they never actually talk about the products, like why? Its cuz the product is irrelevant, the money is in the recruiting and profiting off of the work of your down line. It’s so depressing, it’s like they’re playing house pretending to be CEOs it’s bizarro 🤷♀️ I can’t look away. HELP!
It’s a culttttt
"It's the mindset that separates the strong from the weak" I ALMOST DROPPED MY BURGER WHEN I HEARD THAT. What the HELL
So we are weak bc we aren't brainwashed lol
They try so hard to equate selling bad shampoo with genuine emotional fulfilment, happiness and saving the world from impending disaster.
Bless.
They are rarely selling the products its ALLLLLL about recruiting.
@@IAMCCSuarez true that. Im going off what they say to get people in. Recruiting comes after people are suckered(usually).
They rarely talk about recruiting prior to people joining
I have over 4k in debt from mlms they don’t work!!!!! Like I had to get a second job to pay this off faster make them stawwwwp
Omg!!!!!!
So, they are selling Monat, but what is Monat selling? Never heard a single thing about the product.
One of the biggest reasons I didn’t join Monat, was because the girl who wanted to recruit me.... Had bad hair!!
HAAA
You sneaky sneaky girl! Great info! And if I never hear the word "hustle" again, it'll be too soon.
Right!!
Hi! New here and am subscribing! I have binging your videos and as someone who was once a MP for Monat (which I wholeheartedly regret) everything you say is so true. I started it to make some extra money as I was a new mom and in extreme debt. I was in such a desperate and vulnerable state as I wasn’t even 2 months postpartum and not even a month into the “business” I felt so taken advantage of and didn’t want to do it anymore. But the up lines guilt trip you and belittle you so bad that it makes you feel like you can’t tell them no. I slowly started seeing the how sketchy and scammy Monat was and it made me really hate myself for some time for even posting about it. I ended up struggling with extreme postpartum depression for 3+ months and my upline basically told me that I was using that as an excuse to not work lol. I even watched a training call from a specific MP who was like a director and she was SWEARING at all of us for not working hard enough or whatever the case. There is so much more I could say but THANK YOU for these videos because they HONESTLY show/explain exactly what goes on in Monat. It’s not worth it and I really wish I had saw your videos before I joined because I would have saved myself a shit ton of money and stress.
You are valuable. Your feelings are valid and I’m so sorry that someone took advantage of you
All that matters is that you got out. I hope you are doing really well now!
imagine going to interview for a “regular job” and this is what you hear... you’d RUN the other direction
Run straight to the FTC lol.
Holy shit, these women used to be teachers. Thank christ MLM's exist so that those two are no longer teaching :O
My thoughts exactly
So I’ve gotten put in a groupchat with ladies who do this monat company trying to get me to join. I did my research and told them I didn’t want to do it due to the facts I’ve found on the internet. For example trying to sell me a lifestyle. And she said I was wrong and that everything was misinformation
Lol the FTC isn’t misinformation 🥴🥴🥴🥴
Everything starts with you. If you are ambitious and driven you will be more likely to become successful in whatever you do in life. Nothing to do with a cult or a scam here. This is motivational. Inspirational. Learning from people that are incredibly successful. Just like any job or work you do, you need to actually do the work 🤣 or you’ll get fired. Like what you’re doing here, you are consistent, you show up, you get haters. Monat market partners truly believe in their products, just like you truly believe in being a hater. What’s the difference? Literally if you change your mindset / perspective you can change your life. It’s common knowledge and basic life skills. There are thousands of calls each year where they get trainings on social media etc etc.. this is a mindset training call. You preach not being a hater or rude, but that’s all you’re doing here.
I’m somewhat new to your mlm playlist, and I’m hoping somewhere this leads to a full fledge confrontation....with peace and love! That would be changing lives,which you are also doing one video at a time!
What do you mean by a confrontation?
@@IAMCCSuarez a zoom call between yourself and one of these girls.
To where they must match your facts with whatever rolodex card they land on!
Even as a law student we don’t get told to “work everyday” you gotta rest and not burn out. SMH
Yeah, I knew I didn’t wanna be in monat. I was so iffy & it felt like a pyramid scheme & I even told them that lol. They said you just have to believe in yourself & work hard. With a negative attitude you’re not gonna get any where. I’m a sahm mom with two boys. I’ll stick to focusing on my college work.😌 especially after watching all of your videos!
Basically you have to believe every little thing they tell you and if not they say thats why you aren't making money. Then they'll say you're toxic. In reality if you question it you're thinking for yourself and ultimately not making them money.
It’s a whole cult there so toxic so glad I am out
“There’s a girl at the top eating noodles, which I love it, I’m hungry” 😂😂 idk why but I spit out my food laughing when you said that. Anyways very true. These calls seem so annoying with their “mentors”. Like I wouldn’t be inspired or listen to a thing they say.
right?? I would hate being talked to like this.
New subscriber here! 👋🏻 I’ve been searching HIGH and LOW for someone who covers Monat team calls, and I finally found ya. 😭🙌🏼
Welcome! I've got another one coming tomorrow (hopefully)
Girl how are you not blowing up?!! UA-cam needs to check itself, this is the full truth that more people need to hear!! I’m new to your channel and I love it! Subscribed ✅ keep doing you!! Love it 💖
Thank you Nichole!!! Feel Free to share!!!
New sub. I love how you research and educate (rather politely) with factual information in the few vids I've watched. You come across as classy and educated and I'm excited to see more. Also, thanks for leaving all of those links in the description.💗
I’m a new subscriber too, I enjoy cc. You described everything well
You and tonys banter is actually fucking hilarious. When tony said “wait did she just say she’s still struggling!?!?” I died. Lol I absolutely love you two so much!
I am so irritated how she said success doesn’t fall into your lap when that’s how the opportunity calls go. They wait til you pay to tell you you work like a dog.
All of their words have absolutely no meaning and it’s so disturbing that the others hang on to every bit of it and drink it up
I enjoy the valuable information you’ve provided. Thanks 🤩
New to your channel, I’m 52 Latina Wife & Mom. You have truly educated me on MLM vs Influencer.
Awesome! Thank you!
Who sits there and lets some stranger preach at thim like this for an hour?
brainwashed people who are just looking to be fullfilled.
Chiming in on the manifesting thing: I want her to stop talking about it because she seems a bit confused 😕 she doesn't really seem to believe that you can manifest success. She kept going on about having to work hard, then gave affirmations, then back to believe and receive. I'm not one to allow limiting beliefs but how she's training definitely won't help anyone manifest success especially in this pyramid scheme.
I watch a ton of anti-MLM creators and your videos are the only ones that I get MLM ads for. It’s always Beach Body 🤣
weird! it's most likely b/c of the tags I use for my videos. network marketing/multilevel marketing/direct selling etc.
I am so glad I came across your video
You saved me from these scammers 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yay!!!
Honestly having first hand experience of being in Monat and seeing it from the inside and now being out of it just seeing how fucked it is.. it’s just so crazy because everything they preach to you to like get you to join is the exact opposite of what it really is and it’s crazy how I couldn’t see that when I was in it. It’s so toxic, them literally saying you could have all the freedoms you want and then tell you that you have to work every second of every day and then try to make you feel like shit for not doing that and disguise it as caring about you 🤦🏽♀️
YES!! Thank you for sharing you story. I hope you're doing well girl.
@@IAMCCSuarez I really am I making way more money now and I actually have freedom while doing so!
I definitely agree when I worked with Monat I was sick constantly in the hospital and everyone made me feel horrible for not posting
@@shysam5572 dang girl I hope you’re going better now! It’s so sad that they really try and manipulate vulnerable people for their selfish needs..
All MLMs use the exact same tactics. Been there done that myself.
Uugghh makes me angry 😡 😤 also!! Smh I just don’t get how so many people fall for this nonsense!!!!!
RIGHT?
They get you at your lowest emotional state!!
A lot of the time it’s people in a hard spot hoping to make an income. People don’t always think clearly or stop and think and research when caught in a desperate situation with a time crunch. Moms lose jobs or a partner loses a job and they’re sucked in trying to fill a financial gap and they perceive they’ll also save on daycare expenses by staying home (I watched a friend get sucked in due to circumstances like this. Thankfully she was out within 2 month. But it happens to good and smart people that find themselves in bad circumstances.)
Defective BS detectors hence its common for one person to go from mlm mlm!
You have to ask these people " what would happen if your company stopped recruiting? Would money still come in?"
Remember when Moira and David tried to sell Allez Vous to the ladies of Schitt's Creek?? 😅😅
Yep
I deleted facebook :) anxiety galore. Also, they should make a record of how many people joined 2 years ago and actually made it vs those who did not vs those who quit so people will see this is not as advertised
I completely agree. and Yes same regarding FB I deleted the app from my phone. I cant delete it bc I have my business page linked to it and if I deleted if it wouldnt let me have my IG as a business page. so annoying. so I just dont really use it at all.
The biggest contradiction is that MLM's rely heavily on their 'members' using the internet & phones. The same people can use the same internet & phones to explore these companies before they join.
Unfortunately many people are trusting and don’t know the stats when it comes to MLMs
I'd like to know how many of their friends and family have stopped talking to them while they were 'building their team' for 'their business'. That's a stat I'd like to know.
It’s a real big number lol
I've been on the fence of trying their products because my best friend is in it but the prices are hella expensive. Also, I found your channel just doing some research haha! Love the energy and so I subscribed 😋
Thank you love!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mom and Dad for teaching me better!
Thank god!
Giving the video a like before even watching it cause I know all of your content is the BEST.
Ditto!
Honored!!
Ditto!
Another magnificent video!!!!
Third this
YAS. THIS. YAS. My area is flooded with Arbonne and I am seeing so many girls from my high-school posting about "starting their businesses" and people I was barely friends with reaching out to me. My cousin joined Arbonne 2 years ago and I had managed to avoid getting sucked in although she did manage to get me to sign up as an Independent Consultant because the discount on the products makes it affordable (but I refuse to sell or recruit). Anyway, after watching your videos I just can't even give another dime to these scams. I'll find an equitable protein powder product that's more affordable somewhere else. Definitely sucks because this could mean losing my relationship with my cousin since I doubt I can change her mind. :/
A friend of mine’s girlfriend is a Monat “hun”. Her Instagram story consists of anywhere from 20-30 slides a day and 98% of them are regarding Monat. She’s always saying how grateful she is to work from her bed and boasts about how lazy she really is. What makes me laugh all the time is when she takes her “Greens”, which is a powder that you mix with water that has X amount of vegetables in it. She talks about how she never used to get enough vegetables in her diet and how the “greens” make up for it. “I feel so much better since I started taking my greens and if I don’t have them I crave junk food”. 😂 But the BEST part about it? She always says how good the greens taste but when she takes them on camera she literally uses 1/3 of the pre measured scoop!!! Yeah, they must be delicious when you can’t even handle the serving size. 🤣🤣
Hey there! Im new to this channel and I love it. Thank you for calling these ppl out! I got into an mlm few months ago (doterra) because i got hooked as well, but fortunately after 1 week i got out of it because i didn't want to spend more money and i realized it doesn't bring me any good. But i was unaware of mlm-s, so i was an easy prey... not now though hahaha
Hugs,
Mesi
Hi I’m new here!!! Anti-mlm UA-cam is my favorite place to be!😂
Yay!! WELCOME!
Without all this tea ☕️ in the ANTI-MLM videos- I have always known that I am not designed for the MLM life (even with the dreams they sell)... but now my question is: on these Zoom calls are the attendees not allowed to ask “but you said it was easy, you said I will have all the free time in the world... what happened to all of that?” Someone get me on these calls - I will ask, just to frustrate the living daylights out of them. Don’t they tell people they will get paid for washing their hair? Now they tell them they will struggle for 2 years... I died twice 🤞🏽😂
I was sittin here waiting for you to just start going off on these women and putting them in their place during the conference call. Lmao.. impressed you held it all in😄
Just found you. New subscriber here. Thank you for doing this, a LOT of people need this type of education. This is straight up SCARY! Why is she yelling??? It is soooo agressive. Oh dear god this is awful. I always thought these are scams but this is just pure horror.
"Show up where??!" I love how your husband is so invested too! XD I mean, are they selling products or are they selling memberships to a terrible "self help" club? If you want to create a club than fine but don't hide behind shampooooooo!
He is ridiculously supportive lol at first he didnt really get it. He thought I was just roasting people. But now that he knows I bring facts and educate he loves it.
LOL! What was going on over in the zoom call chat? Yikes! Hi, I’m Annamarie and I’m new to your channel. I’m a bit addicted to anti-MLM content and I love how all of you are just trying to help people. Keep it up.
Lol... girl they were all saying that they deleted their tiktok apps from their phone bc it was a time waster... so weird. Then they were saying hoe 'hyped' they got.
I wish these women out there "hustling" doing more work than a reliable job would require to make a "million dollars" (which isn't going to be as much as you think) would see they are going to regret the time they are missing with their kids. Trust me. I know how bad it feels to be a sahm and how little value you feel when you bring in no income, even though you save your household money- hell you make your household a household. But these women are missing time and memories they will never get back. It is so much more valuable than just a million dollars. These "team leads" are working their "friends" to death to make a buck off them knowing damn well most won't turn a profit, and the kids are the ones suffering. (I am pro working moms- great role models!- but typically when you get off work you get off and spend time with the kids, not get on "meetings" and push invites on social media all night).
I've been binge watching these videos lately and find it hilarious that all of the ads are for more network marketing schemes😂
It's the same weird culty energy of drama camps or self improvement camps run by youth. Creepy AF.
I left 2 weeks ago and I was with Monat for 2 months and omg the best decision ever was to leave, it is such a cult, I am new to your channel and I love it!
SO PROUD OF YOU GIRL 🤍🤍🤍
Omg CHELSEA! I’m so happy I found you! You’re talking about my current favourite binge topic and you’re just hilarious. Love it. Obsessed. 💖
Thanks love!
I love that someone in the call mesagged them "such a waste of time! Get focused". 🤭😂
I’ve been with 5 different MLM’s and they are Allll the same ☹️😡🤬
KATHY I HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU!!! Which ones were you in and how long and did you rank how much money did you lose and most of all ARE YOU OKAY???