Musst se this 18s from my Room.. 10kw 40kg this is massiv too 😉 dual 1 ohm 4 inch voice coil an i have it in series at 2 ohm on the biggest American Audio PA Amp.. only rated for 4 ohms.. but it work with 2 ohms 😂 look at that ua-cam.com/video/wHKwD2_in_Y/v-deo.html Have fun the amp have 2x 1300 watts... all watts here in RMS ! The price over 2000 Dollar per Speaker
Massive Audio Subwoofers are hands down some of the best in the industry. I had their top of the line 15's back in 2004 - 2005 and I thought my vehicle at the time was going to come apart.
The man, the myth, the Big D. Always been a fan of Massive Audio. Glad to see they're still doing big things. Excited to see what you do with that monster.
@@wal you and me both man. It's tax time so I'm finally getting around to having one custom built by one of my friends that does all the local wall enclosures and kerf port boxes. Thanks for the video though. It wasn't long after I saw this that I got my BOA 151. Now that I think about it I watched your video on the JP23v2 (the end of SKAR audio's dominance) and I just received mine in the mail today from D4S 😂
i had the same problem once so i just cut a 3/4 inch spacer and screwed it to the opening, worked great for a couple years. now i'm running the same amp with a 15 inch sundown and it's freaking insane and i love it !! not for spl i actually listen to music :} rock on great vids thanks
I would have done the same thing and I'm thinking it would add strength to the enclosure but could you imagine all the negative comments it would probably get, they would say it was a hack job and rigged then they'd call me out for being the redneck hillbilly that I am They would be amazed at some of the things that some of us mountain ppl can engineer when needed and we can make MacGyver question his own tactics
Ya like me,i have 4 w7-13z valued at 1399.00 plus tax each,so there is 5800$ alone just for my drivers.Plus 4 1000/1 v2 @ 1199.00 each plus 999.99 plus tax for ZR 6.5csi components and C5-650 coax in backdoors at 595.00 plus tax then 2 batteries xs power d 3400 at 950$ for both,then all the zero g wiring worth around 30ft at 10-12$ a foot at 400$..Then an upgraded alternator 300amps worth 500$ then Alpine 7" Ddin headunit 900$ then a 600/4 slash series amp for door speakers 650$...Then all the Scorpion dynomat sound deadening at 750$..I did floor,doors rear hatch and ceiling...And the quad box worth 750$ ..Its rediculous how fast it adds up,i pieced it together over 3 yrs and its expensive to maintain too bro get a good job Son
Strap it! Strap it! Strap it! Wow that is a serious sub! A 70lb sub that requires a 100lb box! A 4 cubic box is not small and you would want it to have at least 1" board. Another great review! Thanks brother!
Back when I competed, we would hook one amp per voice coil. We then made subs that had quad coils, so 4 amplifiers per sub. This was back before amps were strapable
LOVE MY MASSIVE AUDIO HIPPO 84's !!! I Borrowed box dimensions from A builder on ebay and even used the same 3'' Aeroports. This is my first "built to spec" custom box and WOW the bass is so effing clean. Also 35hz near shakes my eyeballs out, It feels like a massive ripping force instead of a higher pounding sound.
I love seeing someone who is as passionate as I am about old school car audio I’m 36 and I have been involved with car audio since 14 and I look forward to getting that notification that you have uploaded a video man keep up the good work !!! Ps I’d love to see what the old school Orion the HOT SET UP amps pushed
Thanks brother. I’m trying to complete 2 vids per week now and although I don’t have any Hot Set Up Amps at the moment, I’m sure I’ll get my hands on them eventually
@@guy_incognito7538 new phones are SO much more than phones though. Like our own little personal computer, camera, pager, music player, phone and more all in one device
@@wal absolutely true. They are worth every penny. My new phone does 4k video recording and has the same 4k screen resolution. It has almost 3x the ram and 4x the storage. It is so much faster and lasts so much longer on a charge. Still, $1000 is a gut wrenching number.
Back in the late 80s and early 90s was my hayday for car audio. The first car I had was a Ford Fiesta with some cheap pyramid subs running in a box retrofitted from an old plywood dresser. It sounded awful, but I still cranked it up with my Coustic amp and JVC head unit. A year or so later I had a Ford Maverick with two 12" Vortex subs and four 10" Vortex subs being powered by a US Amps 100 HCA(I believe was the model number). My poor rear window seal did everything it could to cling to the rear window as the SPL attempted to push it out. The fleck stone spray paint I painted my dash with peeled off as the dash flexed. Ahhh, those were the days where the boom costed way more than the car. I can still hear Sir Mixalot rapping about his "hootie" and it seemed almost as if he was rapping about, "My Hooptie".... Good times...
Funny you guys think the price is too high yet you're watching this on your $1000 phone that you will likely get another $1000 phone in a couple of years.
Judging from the DC resistance of the voice coil, and the impedance shown by the dynamic meter, that driver is very reactive, owing to the huge magnet. I would definitely recommend driving the woofer with a switch mode class "D" amplifier. The current can get far enough out of phase with the voltage, that a linear amplifier output stage could easily get out of it's safe operating area, by having the current hit, while there is a lot of voltage across the transistors. This woofer could burn out a standard analogue amplifier. Judging by the simulated analogue meters on that Rockford Fosgate amp, it looks like you could use large stiffening capacitors on the supply to that amp. Is that amp Class "D"? Taking current from the batteries in peaks suggests that it might be.
Very smart of massive audio you have a huge following of people that are into sound system and your comment about each product are very important. good job Big d
Yeah... I'm two minutes into the video and I don't understand how anyone could think this thing is necessary. You could run an entire wall of high quality subwoofer with 6k watts. There is no way one subwoofer with that amount of wattage can compete with numerous subwoofers.
@William Billowitch It's not the subwoofer it's the damping of the amplifier which means how well it controls the movement of the subwoofer I have 2 massive xlr 12s hippos and they hit the lows well I'm running a Taramps bass 8k on them and the Rockford Fosgate is a class bd amplifier which is not class d? It's more efficient but more distortion? I'm 57 years old and been hooking up systems every since I was 16 ?
theman71177 theman71177 The xtr 2500 is no more powerful than the rockford, maybe in a punch but the rockford will still push it more since its the constant power amp
Those T2500 amps are slick! And besides, even tho it's overpriced, theres some top circuitry in there that makes the Orion look pretty cheap especially the Constant Power and the output meter and VU meter. I'd still buy it if I had the money. But don't get me wrong, both the XTR and T2500 are monsters.
D, that is one sweet sub. I like MASSIVE Products. I have multiple amps and just gave my brother a matching pair of P1000's. I still have the RS150 and I believe to be a RS 25.4? Never had a MASSIVE sub, but seen a couple rhino 8's killing it, in a 97 Vette. That new Massive is nuts. I'm not sure if that RF2500 was enough? How much does that amp produce in 2ohm mono? Baddazz video. Time to slave it in the back of your new Ford 😂
most el cheapo dBSPL meters tap out at around 120 db if you're lucky. For this level of spl you either mortgage your house for a precision B&K instrument or you can get an old school 1960 era analog scale one. You would also need to come up with a pretty credible story for the cops lmao
I have a 15" Sundown Audio X-15 V.2 D2 PRO. With a rockville DB15 , Its one sub that hits as hard as the specs say. Modified a concert speaker box by taking out the cone tweeter and extended the hole about 3/4 back with a 1/2 in pressed particle board across the entire box. I couldn't have built a better box. Just fits right into my jeep Cherokee. From the top of the seat to the tailgate and from window to window. I need to switch the amp out for a 1 Ohm amp. Speaker is 2 Ohm dual voice coil, and amp is 2 Ohm stable monoblock. Its currently at 4 Ohm because i don't want to damage the amp if i drop the speakers down to 1 Ohm. (1.2 Ohm approximately) Seriously for half the price, got to check out Sundown Audio! I do not work for any audio company or retailer. Just a Bass head. Who remembers Dj magic mike? How low can you go...
Yeah but look at the box rise. If wired to .5 ohm it still would have been way above 1 or 2 ohms when played. Would have made a huge difference. With strong power supply as he seems to have, that amp would have been ok. I run dual 1.5 coils in parallel on my t2500 bdcps daily for years. Then again, he DID say that he couldn't play it to its fullest bc of noise level. Maybe that's why....?
@@Nov1970chevy amp wouldn't be at .5 ohms. Speaker would be wired .5 nominal but would never be playing at .5 because impedance is dynamic - not static. Watch the video and see just how high the actual impedance was with box rise in real time.
That's very interesting, you were only giving it around 600rms max at some points but it's obvious like you said that it's very loud and was definitely moving some air. I always thought these high RMS rated subs wouldn't be loud at all if given 'low' power compared to what they are rated for because of their stiff spiders. I'd like to see more of that SMD real time wattage going to the sub and how much it's moving, maybe it could be an idea for a video.
Yeah! That was a good one!... Unfortunately, not very many younger people nowadays actually know about all of those really awesome TRUE bass CDs that came out in the mid to late 90's! Now most people just use their cellphones for an audio source when listening to or "testing" speakers, but your phone doesn't *accurately* go down to 2, 5 or even 10Hz, (actually probabably not really anything below 20Hz), especially not *cleanly* , (i.e. *without* a shitload of totally audible and quite annoying *digital noise artifacts* from its internal circuitry, plus considerable and *definitely audible distortion* and audio clipping, especially when its output level is turned up to maximum! ), but those dedicated bass CDs from that era most *definitely* DO go down that low with a good CD player, (AND cleanly if the CD was properly mastered!), and so if you want a TRUE low-end audio test of any speaker or subwoofer then one *really* needs to *experience* a good bass CD! (And for God's sake, NOT just an "MP3 DOWNLOAD" of one of those albums either, because doing that TOTALLY defeats the main purpose of using a CD and its MUCH better sound quality and greatly extended frequency response!) I had bought AND I still have about 100 of those type of CDs in my music collection, and people that I let hear them nowadays are totally blown away by how awesomely powerful, clean and ultra LOW their bass truly is!... I especially love many of the ones from DM Records and Neurodisc Records, just to name 2 good companies, as most that were put out on those 2 labels especially, also had really cool, enjoyable listening "electronica" style *music* tracks on them too, some of which are still awesome songs now, especially considering how those same or similar EDM beats and such are so popular now in music in general! Pandisc Records also had a few good quality ones too. Those were probably the biggest 3 record labels that produced about 80% of all of the bass CDs, so look for some albums from those companies as a good place to start if interested in getting any. People that enjoy and truly *appreciate* or LOVE BASS, should really try to find and buy (most likely good condition *used* copies of, as most of those albums are now out of print), a few real bass CDs, (the physical CDs themselves!), to use for evaluating speakers and subs, otherwise they're missing out on how awesome TRUE LOW BASS can actually be!!
@@Outty5000Hertz $679 not bad then. It's still an off-the-shelf Chinese parts subwoofer. Ti basket and I've seen that motor before I Believe on soundqubed hdc4 woofers. Standard spider spacer rings and I'll still pass
@@wal make a serious were you test subs with a spl meter and put exactly 90 % of the max rms .You could compare all them ,Sundown, jl 13w7,skar ,ct sounds etz etz .
@@Andre25167 I would say stay with one sub and test the SPL based on the amplifier s output. Therefore it shows amp power difference and not the speaker.
I have 2 hippo xl 122s... what amp did u use to push urs? I'm using 2 Rockford fosgate p1000.1bd amps. 1 amp for each sub but I wanna get a amp that can push both.
If you get an old cell phone, like a Galaxy S3, you'll capture the sound a bit. It'll be rough but not muted out like how new devices attenuate bass notes
I know that’s a beefy speaker but I’m certain it can not handle a true 6k rms. I’m thinking that’s 6k peak like a burst not continuous. I bet you could reach Xmax at 3500w. Sweet video Big D Wiz! 👍👍
I've got a massive audio sub, 15 inch. Called the massive audio hippo xl152. 2k rms. I like it's pretty solid. My first 15 inch, im underpowering it by 400 watts. Just got done with the big 3 and installed a volt meter. Everything's all good. Going to put my 12 type rs back in and see how crazy the three of them will be
I got the same sub in a birch 4.5 cube areo box custom built for my little hyundai accent, strapped to a audiopipe 1800.1d entire car flexes like crazy lol
@@oSTYNCLSYo I bet you do. It's too bad TC Sounds had to go down the way they did. Imagine what they'd have to offer today. I never owned one, but I always wanted one for home theater use. Now they're just a relic as far as I can tell. Even if you can find a used one, it's going to be very used.
@@ryannutter4669 go to robotunderground you tube channel. He has all kinds of tc sounds for sale. Its awesome to see so much he does with old baskets on diff motors just amazing
Correct me if I’m wrong but at 1:45 does it state than X Max is 25mm 2 way, so that means one way linear excursion is 12.5mm? Seems rather little for such a huge sub with triple stacked magnets and that surround.
In theory yes but it is not common practice to power 1 driver with 2 different sources. You would have to balance the output of the 2 amps i.d.k. if ppl do it that way. I would say its not the way
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Reminds me A LOT of my custom TC 4HP 12s I built a while back, except mine weighed a little over 90LBS each LOL
Williston Audio Labs check out my videos of my 12 inch massive audio hippo XL subwoofer 2000w RMS 4000w max! It's a beast of a subwoofer that I love
Musst se this 18s from my Room.. 10kw 40kg this is massiv too 😉 dual 1 ohm 4 inch voice coil an i have it in series at 2 ohm on the biggest American Audio PA Amp.. only rated for 4 ohms.. but it work with 2 ohms 😂 look at that ua-cam.com/video/wHKwD2_in_Y/v-deo.html
Have fun the amp have 2x 1300 watts... all watts here in RMS ! The price over 2000 Dollar per Speaker
Beating on that amp like a boss
Dude I'm telling you I've got an idea for your channel expansion and it has to do with speakers and it's like the old-school amp test!
Derek everyone in the car audio world can't thank you enough for what you do! Having said that, how can you test a 6kw sub on 2.5kw?
Back in 2000 I had two massive 12"and ruled my high school, 🤣🤣 glad to see they're still Killin it!
Massive Audio Subwoofers are hands down some of the best in the industry. I had their top of the line 15's back in 2004 - 2005 and I thought my vehicle at the time was going to come apart.
Not really compared to Russian brands
@@kargo6 what are some of your favorite's?
Hank Schrader has more than only minerals
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@@josearana4992 👍👌👌🤔
The man, the myth, the Big D. Always been a fan of Massive Audio. Glad to see they're still doing big things. Excited to see what you do with that monster.
Need a massively braced box to hold this beast
@@wal is they w7
@@wal you and me both man. It's tax time so I'm finally getting around to having one custom built by one of my friends that does all the local wall enclosures and kerf port boxes. Thanks for the video though. It wasn't long after I saw this that I got my BOA 151. Now that I think about it I watched your video on the JP23v2 (the end of SKAR audio's dominance) and I just received mine in the mail today from D4S 😂
That magnet looks like a small spare tire. 75 lbs! A perfect size, I like it.
I've used a few of the massive subs and always been impressed by them.so I can only imagine what this one sounds like
i had the same problem once so i just cut a 3/4 inch spacer and screwed it to the opening, worked great for a couple years. now i'm running the same amp with a 15 inch sundown and it's freaking insane and i love it !! not for spl i actually listen to music :} rock on great vids thanks
I would have done the same thing and I'm thinking it would add strength to the enclosure but could you imagine all the negative comments it would probably get, they would say it was a hack job and rigged then they'd call me out for being the redneck hillbilly that I am
They would be amazed at some of the things that some of us mountain ppl can engineer when needed and we can make MacGyver question his own tactics
$1,100? That's worth more than my car lmao
That’s the old school audio way lol
Swang and bang bro 😅
That's not alot ppl spend alot more than that...
lmao
Ya like me,i have 4 w7-13z valued at 1399.00 plus tax each,so there is 5800$ alone just for my drivers.Plus 4 1000/1 v2 @ 1199.00 each plus 999.99 plus tax for ZR 6.5csi components and C5-650 coax in backdoors at 595.00 plus tax then 2 batteries xs power d 3400 at 950$ for both,then all the zero g wiring worth around 30ft at 10-12$ a foot at 400$..Then an upgraded alternator 300amps worth 500$ then Alpine 7" Ddin headunit 900$ then a 600/4 slash series amp for door speakers 650$...Then all the Scorpion dynomat sound deadening at 750$..I did floor,doors rear hatch and ceiling...And the quad box worth 750$ ..Its rediculous how fast it adds up,i pieced it together over 3 yrs and its expensive to maintain too bro get a good job Son
Had massive audio sub and amp for 1 and half year and im satisfied af
How much it set u back what kind of amp and sub
@@alexvecchies1729 hippo xl152 and n4 amp, both from massive audio, what u mean with set me back? You mean cost?
Damn, this vid has 3.8mil views! Never thought car audio sub vids could reach those heights. Congrats
Crazy I agree!
Big D I've been banging massive for 3 years now. Started with he Gtx line and now I have 2 hippo 15s. LOVE THEM!!!!!!
cory merry hippo XL122R
Strap it! Strap it! Strap it! Wow that is a serious sub! A 70lb sub that requires a 100lb box! A 4 cubic box is not small and you would want it to have at least 1" board. Another great review! Thanks brother!
1.5” all around with bracing in the works 👈😬
All my wishes for your back! lol
Back when I competed, we would hook one amp per voice coil. We then made subs that had quad coils, so 4 amplifiers per sub. This was back before amps were strapable
you could maybe show us how loud with a decibel meter, run a sweep from 10 Hz to 100 , etc.
LOVE MY MASSIVE AUDIO HIPPO 84's !!! I Borrowed box dimensions from A builder on ebay and even used the same 3'' Aeroports. This is my first "built to spec" custom box and WOW the bass is so effing clean. Also 35hz near shakes my eyeballs out, It feels like a massive ripping force instead of a higher pounding sound.
This a an SPL sub, only for creating pressure. Not really my type of sub, but interesting nonetheless
@@wal ya if I had a chevy Tahoe id be running one masssive audio hippo xl 12 for sure. Nice in between sub
I love seeing someone who is as passionate as I am about old school car audio I’m 36 and I have been involved with car audio since 14 and I look forward to getting that notification that you have uploaded a video man keep up the good work !!! Ps I’d love to see what the old school Orion the HOT SET UP amps pushed
Thanks brother. I’m trying to complete 2 vids per week now and although I don’t have any Hot Set Up Amps at the moment, I’m sure I’ll get my hands on them eventually
That's what I love to see people coming out with big 12s🔥🔥
Well here ya go 🕺
$1100 for sub then I look at my phone, can't believe I paid $1000 for a cell phone.
😝
I swore I would never spend so much on a phone. I also swore I'd never get a fully glass phone too. Now I sit here with my S10+
No regrets tho
@@guy_incognito7538 new phones are SO much more than phones though. Like our own little personal computer, camera, pager, music player, phone and more all in one device
@@wal absolutely true. They are worth every penny. My new phone does 4k video recording and has the same 4k screen resolution. It has almost 3x the ram and 4x the storage. It is so much faster and lasts so much longer on a charge. Still, $1000 is a gut wrenching number.
@@guy_incognito7538 what phone?
The best way to show me how well it works is to send me the sub 😂👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 great video
Keep watching. Massive Audio May give one away!!
I really like the Massive subwoofers! I used to have 2 of the Hippo 15's with dual 2 ohm voice coils. Very loud and clean.
That's a healthy looking sub definitely gonna have to strap the Fosgate cause the sub was not even sweating on a single amp.
Yeah it needs more juice 🥤
Old school magic Mike bass!!!
You know it!
High school all over again for me my friend!
Heck ya! DJ Magic Mike and Technaster PEB was where the Bass was at. In 1992 at least.
Hahahahahahah.
Old School represent!
Let me hear you say droooooop it , Magic Mike a blast from the past
What's the name of the song?
Back in the late 80s and early 90s was my hayday for car audio. The first car I had was a Ford Fiesta with some cheap pyramid subs running in a box retrofitted from an old plywood dresser. It sounded awful, but I still cranked it up with my Coustic amp and JVC head unit. A year or so later I had a Ford Maverick with two 12" Vortex subs and four 10" Vortex subs being powered by a US Amps 100 HCA(I believe was the model number). My poor rear window seal did everything it could to cling to the rear window as the SPL attempted to push it out. The fleck stone spray paint I painted my dash with peeled off as the dash flexed. Ahhh, those were the days where the boom costed way more than the car.
I can still hear Sir Mixalot rapping about his "hootie" and it seemed almost as if he was rapping about, "My Hooptie".... Good times...
Great trip down nostalgia lane! Love it!!
Funny you guys think the price is too high yet you're watching this on your $1000 phone that you will likely get another $1000 phone in a couple of years.
Crazy Man and Crazy Subs - I like it dude ! Greets from Germany
First time viewer and I was very impressed!
"Massive" is apt, I love how the spider is almost as large as the cone.
Judging from the DC resistance of the voice coil, and the impedance shown by the dynamic meter, that driver is very reactive, owing to the huge magnet. I would definitely recommend driving the woofer with a switch mode class "D" amplifier. The current can get far enough out of phase with the voltage, that a linear amplifier output stage could easily get out of it's safe operating area, by having the current hit, while there is a lot of voltage across the transistors. This woofer could burn out a standard analogue amplifier.
Judging by the simulated analogue meters on that Rockford Fosgate amp, it looks like you could use large stiffening capacitors on the supply to that amp. Is that amp Class "D"? Taking current from the batteries in peaks suggests that it might be.
Yes the T2500.1BDcp is class D.
Massive supporting Big D Wiz has me thinking about going with their middle and highs in my Yukon.
AAAAAWWWWWWWWWE YUKON DADDY~~~
One of the craziest 12 inch subs I've seen, almost choked when i saw the price though lol.
She’s spensive yo 😲
Near $100 per inch ouch
Seen much more crazy shit than this. And even subs 2-4x the price of this one. So this one is not that crazy.
SpéirRanch Audio Labs that’s the way I felt with JL Audio 🗑
look at the pride st12
Steve meade made a box for 2 of them
Awesome video Big D! Dear Massive Audio price is outta here!
😜🤙
Awesome video definitely definitely would like to see with two amps and a bigger tuned box
My entire music system is Massive. From amp to speakers.
That sub is sweet, nice work
I love massive audio I have the hippo XL122R running on Taramps 3000 it’s no joke
Very smart of massive audio you have a huge following of people that are into sound system and your comment about each product are very important. good job Big d
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Do it!! PLEASE .... Iwould love to see that sub perform with the RF (2500x2) Strapped!!!
I like to see you test a (and yes) 32" subwoofer maxxxxxed out. That speaker by its self weighs about 230 lbs.
Dang that's a sweet amp. Love me some Rockford.
fat catt 39 Taramps
I hope they do an 18 inch version.
They did lol
Why when u were filming the meter did it show that the amp was not putting out but like 50 watts
Just the video had my 12's shaking my foundation of my house.... Good video and and audio bro
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey bigdwiz put the jbl crown a6000 amp on it and let's see what it's capable of doing
That was my original idea but I’m getting custom inputs made by Toolmaker Metalworkz for the A6000
Williston Audio Labs no worries we are always down for a revisit
@Natural Creature or switch up his content to audio about videos 😂
That would be sweet. She would be Pounding
Bet it cracks the box
I just bought ($197) a SummoXL 10 inch sub(1500 rms) put it in a 2 cubic ft box at 35Hz and It blows my JL 12W6 away in SPL!
dam with a subwoofer like that you could rattle the stars and stripes off America 😂😭🥵👏🏾👏🏾
Nice sub those who can afford it im sure they wont be disappointed
If you want straight up SPL, yeah
Yeah... I'm two minutes into the video and I don't understand how anyone could think this thing is necessary. You could run an entire wall of high quality subwoofer with 6k watts. There is no way one subwoofer with that amount of wattage can compete with numerous subwoofers.
So what happens if your space is limited?
@William Billowitch It's not the subwoofer it's the damping of the amplifier which means how well it controls the movement of the subwoofer I have 2 massive xlr 12s hippos and they hit the lows well I'm running a Taramps bass 8k on them and the Rockford Fosgate is a class bd amplifier which is not class d? It's more efficient but more distortion? I'm 57 years old and been hooking up systems every since I was 16 ?
First sub to make a JL Audio look tiny is incredible. What a massive Beast you have there. I don't think there is any taming that thing
How about using the orion xtr.2500 which over 5000 watts
theman71177 theman71177 The xtr 2500 is no more powerful than the rockford, maybe in a punch but the rockford will still push it more since its the constant power amp
Those T2500 amps are slick! And besides, even tho it's overpriced, theres some top circuitry in there that makes the Orion look pretty cheap especially the Constant Power and the output meter and VU meter. I'd still buy it if I had the money. But don't get me wrong, both the XTR and T2500 are monsters.
Raging_Bullz77 Yes they are both beasts! The xtr is a bit in the inefficient side tho
I just remember when Big D Wiz amp Dyno on the XTR amp it did over 5000 Watts RMS it did crazy numbers
@@cjon24s69 how is the rockford the more constant amp? what does that even mean? lol
Man that’s one clean looking amp 💯
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@wal 💯
Keep up the good work.
Used as you might recall to take down the Hulk a few years after they also drove out Noriega. Great use of High End...
I think they used Brazilian amps playing super tweeters for Noriega though 😜
D, that is one sweet sub. I like MASSIVE Products. I have multiple amps and just gave my brother a matching pair of P1000's. I still have the RS150 and I believe to be a RS 25.4? Never had a MASSIVE sub, but seen a couple rhino 8's killing it, in a 97 Vette. That new Massive is nuts. I'm not sure if that RF2500 was enough? How much does that amp produce in 2ohm mono? Baddazz video. Time to slave it in the back of your new Ford 😂
Damn, that's a Big Ass Sub! Just one can break all windows on my SUV! 😯💪
This definitely looks like a JLD Audio sub.
I was considering buying one of these subwoofers for my truck! Thank you Big D!
You can use a db meter to show how loud it is bro!
most el cheapo dBSPL meters tap out at around 120 db if you're lucky. For this level of spl you either mortgage your house for a precision B&K instrument or you can get an old school 1960 era analog scale one.
You would also need to come up with a pretty credible story for the cops lmao
I have a 15" Sundown Audio X-15 V.2 D2 PRO. With a rockville DB15 , Its one sub that hits as hard as the specs say. Modified a concert speaker box by taking out the cone tweeter and extended the hole about 3/4 back with a 1/2 in pressed particle board across the entire box. I couldn't have built a better box. Just fits right into my jeep Cherokee. From the top of the seat to the tailgate and from window to window. I need to switch the amp out for a 1 Ohm amp. Speaker is 2 Ohm dual voice coil, and amp is 2 Ohm stable monoblock. Its currently at 4 Ohm because i don't want to damage the amp if i drop the speakers down to 1 Ohm. (1.2 Ohm approximately)
Seriously for half the price, got to check out Sundown Audio!
I do not work for any audio company or retailer. Just a Bass head. Who remembers Dj magic mike? How low can you go...
What's in the boxxxxxxx lol that was funny!!!
Love your channel Big DWiz
Thanks brother 👌
Nice video sir.....from philippines here,..👏👏👏👏
I have 2 hippo 8" on 500 watts and they are LOUD
Totally agree. I had 2 hippo 12's and they did the job👍
Robert Redmond can’t each one of them take 500 each? Been thinking about getting this for my minivan
I would kill for that Rockford amp!!! Not literally, but you get the point!!! Rockford has been my favorite brand for amps, not the subs however
It is a dreamy amp for sure
Yes Strap her up Big D💪 would love to see that.Might wreck the lab though😕🔊
T2500.1 Fosgate that amp is a beast!! Put that on deno
Meade916 has tested one already, but I can test this one if y’all want
@@wal I'm curious!
The sub is a 1ohm dvc, why didn't you run it parallel at 0.5 ohm bro instead of 2ohm in series. Awesome channel btw big dwiz 👍
Chris Antoniou well that amp does same watts at 1 and 2 ohm
Yeah but look at the box rise. If wired to .5 ohm it still would have been way above 1 or 2 ohms when played. Would have made a huge difference. With strong power supply as he seems to have, that amp would have been ok. I run dual 1.5 coils in parallel on my t2500 bdcps daily for years. Then again, he DID say that he couldn't play it to its fullest bc of noise level. Maybe that's why....?
Amp doesn't do .5 ohm
@@Nov1970chevy amp wouldn't be at .5 ohms. Speaker would be wired .5 nominal but would never be playing at .5 because impedance is dynamic - not static. Watch the video and see just how high the actual impedance was with box rise in real time.
I have the 6.5 sumo. In a birch custom box tuned to 34hrz in my single cab s10. On a 600 watt rockville at 2ohm. Its amazing
Having that in a home theater setup then.😊😅😅
That's very interesting, you were only giving it around 600rms max at some points but it's obvious like you said that it's very loud and was definitely moving some air. I always thought these high RMS rated subs wouldn't be loud at all if given 'low' power compared to what they are rated for because of their stiff spiders.
I'd like to see more of that SMD real time wattage going to the sub and how much it's moving, maybe it could be an idea for a video.
That would be cool and I’ll look into using 2 cameras and do this 🤙
Rock the MAGIC MIKE “Feel the Bass” ....
Yeah! That was a good one!... Unfortunately, not very many younger people nowadays actually know about all of those really awesome TRUE bass CDs that came out in the mid to late 90's! Now most people just use their cellphones for an audio source when listening to or "testing" speakers, but your phone doesn't *accurately* go down to 2, 5 or even 10Hz, (actually probabably not really anything below 20Hz), especially not *cleanly* , (i.e. *without* a shitload of totally audible and quite annoying *digital noise artifacts* from its internal circuitry, plus considerable and *definitely audible distortion* and audio clipping, especially when its output level is turned up to maximum! ), but those dedicated bass CDs from that era most *definitely* DO go down that low with a good CD player, (AND cleanly if the CD was properly mastered!), and so if you want a TRUE low-end audio test of any speaker or subwoofer then one *really* needs to *experience* a good bass CD! (And for God's sake, NOT just an "MP3 DOWNLOAD" of one of those albums either, because doing that TOTALLY defeats the main purpose of using a CD and its MUCH better sound quality and greatly extended frequency response!)
I had bought AND I still have about 100 of those type of CDs in my music collection, and people that I let hear them nowadays are totally blown away by how awesomely powerful, clean and ultra LOW their bass truly is!... I especially love many of the ones from DM Records and Neurodisc Records, just to name 2 good companies, as most that were put out on those 2 labels especially, also had really cool, enjoyable listening "electronica" style *music* tracks on them too, some of which are still awesome songs now, especially considering how those same or similar EDM beats and such are so popular now in music in general! Pandisc Records also had a few good quality ones too. Those were probably the biggest 3 record labels that produced about 80% of all of the bass CDs, so look for some albums from those companies as a good place to start if interested in getting any.
People that enjoy and truly *appreciate* or LOVE BASS, should really try to find and buy (most likely good condition *used* copies of, as most of those albums are now out of print), a few real bass CDs, (the physical CDs themselves!), to use for evaluating speakers and subs, otherwise they're missing out on how awesome TRUE LOW BASS can actually be!!
Damn big D, getting those views up man! Over 650k on this one!! Been watching for a while keep up the great reviews and videos 💪🏻👍🏻
Yeah, crazy!!!
Trust me nobody buys from the massive website, only local dealers... their website pricing is a trap for the goofballs
can't find the boa 121 at any retailers though :(
I would have expected a sub built like that would need a lot more than 3 cubic feet of air space. And some super thick MDF board for that heavy sub.
I got my Fi team 15 for under $700. Massive is crazy. Pass
That's the website price. eBay has them for $679
@@Outty5000Hertz $679 not bad then. It's still an off-the-shelf Chinese parts subwoofer. Ti basket and I've seen that motor before I Believe on soundqubed hdc4 woofers. Standard spider spacer rings and I'll still pass
I didn’t set the price, but it does seem a bit pricey to me. They have a 20% off coupon on their website, but still $$$
@@DibeezyTheGifted hell they have my subs listed on the website for $700 eBay has em for $399 or $720 for a set of two
@@Outty5000Hertz the massive hippo XL do take a beating tho
Extraordinary speaker
Can you test a “American bass signature series” 15s
Why would you even compare it to the 12w6? A fair comparison would be more with the 12w7. But I would still opted for the jl.
Hey big D throw everything the Orion hcca 3000 D can do to this beast of a sub , do it in parallel 👍🏻
Orion hcca 3000d
*Orion 3k SPLX
That's not even close to 6000 wattes
Hell ya what ya waiting for
How about adding an SPL test as part of your testing
It’s in the plans 😎
@@wal make a serious were you test subs with a spl meter and put exactly 90 % of the max rms .You could compare all them ,Sundown, jl 13w7,skar ,ct sounds etz etz .
@@Andre25167 I would say stay with one sub and test the SPL based on the amplifier s output. Therefore it shows amp power difference and not the speaker.
we still need 3999watt for that 9999watt bass test
You can also use a cup of water to help display how hard it is hitting
Team massive yes sir I miss my hippos xl 122
Tyronne Hamilton I got 2- them hippo xl 122r’s love dem
I have 2 hippo xl 122s... what amp did u use to push urs? I'm using 2 Rockford fosgate p1000.1bd amps. 1 amp for each sub but I wanna get a amp that can push both.
Al Cahalic audiopipe 3000d
I have crescendo 4k the new 2018 line
Running @ .5
Nice 60000 Watt subwoofer
Wowza!
Needs a 6kW to "push" dis monsta < :-P
You got that in spades at yo house son!
@@HifiVega I'll get a proper box built and scare all da neighbors. JBL A6000gti says dis dub don't want none!!
If you get an old cell phone, like a Galaxy S3, you'll capture the sound a bit. It'll be rough but not muted out like how new devices attenuate bass notes
Sundown price from massive? I dunno..
That was a great video . It's a trip how you just have to be there in person to get the full spl experience.
It’s true
I'd need helper springs in my Silverado. LoL
Just discovered this channel, pretty good! Subscribed
Close to 500 videos here, welcome!
There is no replacement for displacement
I know that’s a beefy speaker but I’m certain it can not handle a true 6k rms. I’m thinking that’s 6k peak like a burst not continuous.
I bet you could reach Xmax at 3500w.
Sweet video Big D Wiz! 👍👍
Damn good subwoofer, 😍😍😍
Goog god a 6000rms sub. That's a monster
Once I get my Yinlongs hooked up we’ll see 🤨
*Items on table ratling* subwoofer: 200W out of 6000W.... Umm yeah...
you dumb or something?
I've got a massive audio sub, 15 inch.
Called the massive audio hippo xl152. 2k rms.
I like it's pretty solid. My first 15 inch, im underpowering it by 400 watts. Just got done with the big 3 and installed a volt meter. Everything's all good. Going to put my 12 type rs back in and see how crazy the three of them will be
I got the same sub in a birch 4.5 cube areo box custom built for my little hyundai accent, strapped to a audiopipe 1800.1d entire car flexes like crazy lol
That kind of looks like an LMS Ultra motor.
Lol
@@oSTYNCLSYo Yeah. After comparing the two, that was a laughable comment. Pretty sure I was "drunk youtubing".
@@ryannutter4669 all good. I had the lms 5400s ultra 18s, I miss them.
@@oSTYNCLSYo I bet you do. It's too bad TC Sounds had to go down the way they did. Imagine what they'd have to offer today. I never owned one, but I always wanted one for home theater use. Now they're just a relic as far as I can tell. Even if you can find a used one, it's going to be very used.
@@ryannutter4669 go to robotunderground you tube channel. He has all kinds of tc sounds for sale. Its awesome to see so much he does with old baskets on diff motors just amazing
Correct me if I’m wrong but at 1:45 does it state than X Max is 25mm 2 way, so that means one way linear excursion is 12.5mm? Seems rather little for such a huge sub with triple stacked magnets and that surround.
Sir... Can i use (2) T2500 amp for that 1 sub 6,000rms?
In theory yes but it is not common practice to power 1 driver with 2 different sources. You would have to balance the output of the 2 amps i.d.k. if ppl do it that way. I would say its not the way
Too strapped t2500 would kill this sub I'm pretty sure of it that would be about 7k RMS from both amps