@@ryanamen6397 in my own opinion , by listening to it hooked up to a H.Q. source & speaker system while comparing it to known H.Q. amps using ones own experience. So other than using a dyno, its always just an opinion. Can anyone else add to this?
this little amp would look good in a home system setup pair up with some nice vintage Sony home speakers nice enough to display cheap enough to not worry about getting broken you know what I mean
yeap... hole saw... but FIRST you need to KNOW what part gets hotter: toroid or the sides? no point in cooling the luke-warm parts and for this you need to run it full bore, in the heat of a summer day, 40ºC minimum in the car/trunk, and its also good to have hi pwr resistors, or hi pwr 12 or 15 inchesrs
I’m not saying people should buy this but I love that we have Big D to test them and see if they’re worth the money. After this video I would buy this amp if I needed it and needed to save money.
Well... technically, it performed as advertised, and then some! A lot of their compatriots didn't even make the low bar of advertised power. I agree that longevity is still a question mark. But, it's pretty clear there was an engineer that knew what they were doing involved at some point. It would be fairly easy for a handy soldering hand to repair this, or sub out known brand name parts if one wanted to. Also, I would love for that clear acrylic cover to be the standard. Manufacturers should be proud of their design.
@jamesplotkin4674 Exactly. Back in the day I paid out the nose for a Kicker ZX amp, and also JL Audio's 1st-gen class-D 500-watt monoblock. But the reliability and sound quality was superb. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't bank on any quality coming from Temu.
So what this basically shows us is that most US car audio brands with a few exceptions are nothing more than marketing companies that probably outsourced design and manufacturing while they focus on making it pretty.
As usual...with everything....best business model, no R&D to pay for, very little overhead its basically what every single company on Earth does except the really BIG ones that sue the heck outta everyone & try hard to keep every aspect of it in house, like repair even. Thought everyone knew doing everything possible no matter the morals or ethics IS "business" ! And if u can NOT get caught the illegal things are very profitabel!...SHAREHOLDERS DON'T GIVE A FU*K!
Very few US owned car audio manufacturers anymore. Those three are usually offer proprietary designs along with service and warranty support. You'll get nothing with this amp. Even fewer US based companies actually build their products here anymore. Tru Technology, Linear Power, some higher end JL Audio subs and I think Orion has started making one amp model here again.
@@msh6865 yep it's a sad time compared to the early 90s. PPI, PG, Rockford, Orion, Hifonics, Sound stream, etc. So many to choose from and pretty much all history now other than the name.
@@msh6865yes and it’s sad. I long for the old days when car audio was very expensive, so only a few of us could afford it, and teens absolutely couldn’t unless they worked all summer and really saved. Really weeded out the uneducated idiots
Straight away without even knowing the model or specs I noticed massive the fets were and got extra curious 😂 impressive. Would love to see it on a scope for noise etc
With the model being ZM2502, Makes me think it translates to 250w x 2 channels. It certainly didn't do terrible in testing. The 40a x2 fuses made me think it should do something more in that ballpark.
Guessing approximately 800 rms Bridged....😊... I usually take total fuse rating times 10 volts because of the loss of efficiency.... gets close usually.... it did better than expected
Like I always say, the car audio world is a huge mess of brands and non-brands and you never know what you may get. There are alot of fake brands that don't do much power at all and then we have fake brands that actually do for a great price. It's a risky business.
It is risky especially when you cant see what's inside till you get it Stateside. The thing about it is.......This "cheap" stuff is getting pretty damn good in the last 4yrs. Maybe the restoration of electronic components (after Covid) plays a factor in the grand scheme of it all. Time will tell.
Thank You...for us down South....Like South Africa South, the premium brands cost a arm and a leg to be brought in/shipped in....double what it would in the USA/UK....these cheap TEMU amps come in way less price wise......so Im glad I actually got to see them being put in the dyno...so I can bump for less
I was wondering about why they used 2 x 40 amp fuses with that 300 watt rating. With those fuses you would be able to hit over 1000 watts at 14 volts. SQ is always a factor too, it's what I aim for.
10:57 You want to get into electrical engineering and dissect an amp for $100 that's a perfect specimen especially if you push it to its limits have it fail and then repair it. Even cheap amps have their purpose. ☺️👌
I think its high time we get a name brand amp of equivalent power to go toe to toe with the mystery meat. Would love to see you get some of the current uber high dollar stuff into the lab as well, Helix, Focal, Morel Scanspeak, Seas, etc etc
That's a lot of class AB power for $100. If these guys would have been around back in the day, they probably would have given Rockford Fosgate a run for it's money. I don't think I would buy it to put in a daily driver, but it would be nice to just have in something like a demo setup.
You just know that they gave the only person in the company with some English experience full marketing control on this one. It's hard to complain about much on this thing.
Oh no that was very expected haha. Looking at the size of output stage and power supply when I saw the ratings I was like nah it’s gonna demolish that. 5242 3263 transistors are big high power BJTs and there’s 8 of them. They’re very popular devices found in most of the giant Asian class H amps. With a bigger power supply it would do considerably more power. Looks like a plain simple dual complimentary class AB Also the Elna caps are real XD. Unmistakable patented crimp on the top
I started the video expecting to fall off my chair laughing. I nearly fell off my chair in surprise. Didn't see this coming, wow. Not sure I'd buy it, but it's way above what it's spec'd at. Too bad some "name brands" still choose to use fake ratings, while companies like this can actually overperform.
It has the wrong output transistors! It's clearly silk screened on the PCB C5200 which means 2SC5200/2SA1943. Would be interesting to see the numbers this beast can do with the correct ones
@hughbrackett343 sure but that's the same with any amp. Even if a person were to pick this up and give it a look for likely weak points to address like adding a bit of active cooling, maybe sine vibration mitigation and if the board is flimsy a bit of reinforcement it's a crazy value for the money. Seems like a great opportunity to get into learning repair and modification too.
The problem with amplifiers with transparent covers is that they never add illumination to truly show off the guts. Then you also can't just put it somewhere to be showcased by natural light because the sunlight will eventually fade the acrylic.
@@eustahijelifetips After I buy it it becomes my stuff & not theirs anymore . I love moding & wish I could mod everything in my life as easy as adding a fan & some leds to this amp! LoL!
@@Rob.DB. But you wouldn't be able to do any internal modification without voiding the warranty. Not that big of a deal on an amp like this, but maybe something to consider on an amp you spent like $500 on. It's something simple and inexpensive enough that they should include it from the factory. A cooling fan should come on pretty much every A/B amp, crazy how they didn't put one on something with this kind of power, but perhaps it might not have allowed them to keep it at the $100 mark.
@@ranchosdelnorte i havent had any problems with heat on old amps, and they never had a fan or slits for cooling, they were of good quality, the new compact amps on the other hand, they get hot as soon as they turn on, its better not to avoid installing a fan on them, i still dont trust them
I got one of these because of this video and it was broken in the same place Im going to be replacing the gold end caps with laser cut and folded aluminium and possibly a fan or 2
Truly surprising output for the price but it’s not destined for a long life. It needs a much larger mass of aluminum at its a/b class power level for passive cooling so without fans it will cook if used for long periods.
Ikr! & all they had do was a cheap fan but wanted to keep pp at 100 for multi reasons.Just another max profit production (M.P.P.) -no care for how many amps blow up bc time they do, the "company "will be defunct so no customer service, or accountability! -Its the ONLY Chinese business model ! -"QUICK CASH GRAB"
I hate to break it to you big D, that's a boss onyx ndx from back in the early 20teens . Well maybe not but the first thing I said to myself as soon as I seent da board . It's funny how the super cheap amps hit closer to advertised than a lot of the more main stream companies.
Holy Batshit Robin!!! 😮😂 wasn’t expecting that. Wonder how many people blew their elcheapo 6.5” door speakers? 😂. They should handle 450 watts “ max power “ I don’t understand what happened 🤦🏻♂️
Actually, I’m not even mad. HEY BOSS, POWER ACOUSTIC AND PLANET AUDIO, Temu just kicked your asses with ratings on a product!!!!!!!
Those 3 aren't as good as they used to be!
Don't forget the absolute worst , SSL ( BOSS's lowest quality amp under Planet Audio )
@@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032 were they ever ANY good?
And Pyle got it's ass kicked too!
lol
No way I expected this amp to put out that much power when I picked it up 😮. Far from a “SQ” amp, but for $100 hard to be mad… Great video
The dummy math of 10X the fuse rating is usually pretty darn close. I'm not surprised at all.
And how do you determind if it an sq amp?
@@ryanamen6397 in my own opinion , by listening to it hooked up to a H.Q. source & speaker system while comparing it to known H.Q. amps using ones own experience. So other than using a dyno, its always just an opinion. Can anyone else add to this?
this little amp would look good in a home system setup pair up with some nice vintage Sony home speakers nice enough to display cheap enough to not worry about getting broken you know what I mean
@@kevinb158 i agree
The King Kong capacitors was just an Easter egg to what was coming... That amp straight beat on its chest for $99.
Active cooling on this amp would be a simple mod with that clear plate adding a 12v slim fan
Yeah, and there are already vent holes in that tacky side plate....
Just drill a hole for a small fan and you're good.
Amps don't need fkn fans jffc if it's holding a fan it better damn well run .5 ohm n less
yeap... hole saw... but FIRST you need to KNOW what part gets hotter: toroid or the sides? no point in cooling the luke-warm parts
and for this you need to run it full bore, in the heat of a summer day, 40ºC minimum in the car/trunk, and its also good to have hi pwr resistors, or hi pwr 12 or 15 inchesrs
“If ya hear me before you see me, I got KIng Kong in da trunk”
I’m not saying people should buy this but I love that we have Big D to test them and see if they’re worth the money. After this video I would buy this amp if I needed it and needed to save money.
When I saw the 2 x 40A fuses, I knew it was underrated.
For that kind of power with Class A/B is wild you can’t go wrong!
The 2 40 amp fuses already set some expectations lol.
Im impressed i would never order from temu but this shocked me thumbs up
That first test result my honest reaction was “whoa!”😂
The matching 4 channel amps are also pretty nice . they have 2 gain adjustments and thats it .
I'm sold. Grab em while you can! I like these videos of cheap amps.
The heatsinking seems lacking for a Class AB w this much output? But man, what a change from the 'flea market' cheap amps of the 90s!
@@K0Kaz you're sure right about those 90s flea market amps. They made good door stops but that's about it!
Well... technically, it performed as advertised, and then some! A lot of their compatriots didn't even make the low bar of advertised power. I agree that longevity is still a question mark. But, it's pretty clear there was an engineer that knew what they were doing involved at some point. It would be fairly easy for a handy soldering hand to repair this, or sub out known brand name parts if one wanted to. Also, I would love for that clear acrylic cover to be the standard. Manufacturers should be proud of their design.
It sounds like the bass is nice and full on this amp.
You know those amps are going to sale fast like when BIG D tested the Blaupunkt sub, they jacked up the price on Amazon after that test.
And we used to pay $1 a watt.
I paid $289 for a Punch 45 new back in 1989.
Yeah I'm glad them days are over, plus the subs are better and cheaper.
@@msh6865 And your Punch is working just as well today as it did 35 years ago. I doubt this temu would hold up.
@jamesplotkin4674 Exactly. Back in the day I paid out the nose for a Kicker ZX amp, and also JL Audio's 1st-gen class-D 500-watt monoblock. But the reliability and sound quality was superb. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't bank on any quality coming from Temu.
But it sounds better.
So what this basically shows us is that most US car audio brands with a few exceptions are nothing more than marketing companies that probably outsourced design and manufacturing while they focus on making it pretty.
As usual...with everything....best business model, no R&D to pay for, very little overhead its basically what every single company on Earth does except the really BIG ones that sue the heck outta everyone & try hard to keep every aspect of it in house, like repair even. Thought everyone knew doing everything possible no matter the morals or ethics IS "business" ! And if u can NOT get caught the illegal things are very profitabel!...SHAREHOLDERS DON'T GIVE A FU*K!
Very few US owned car audio manufacturers anymore. Those three are usually offer proprietary designs along with service and warranty support. You'll get nothing with this amp.
Even fewer US based companies actually build their products here anymore. Tru Technology, Linear Power, some higher end JL Audio subs and I think Orion has started making one amp model here again.
@@msh6865 yep it's a sad time compared to the early 90s. PPI, PG, Rockford, Orion, Hifonics, Sound stream, etc. So many to choose from and pretty much all history now other than the name.
@@msh6865yes and it’s sad. I long for the old days when car audio was very expensive, so only a few of us could afford it, and teens absolutely couldn’t unless they worked all summer and really saved. Really weeded out the uneducated idiots
@@tccoggs Rockford Fosgate and JL Audio are still alive and kicking! It is a tough business to stay competitive for sure.
With six IRF1404 N-FET's, it can safely output 2000 Watts on the supply side.
there are 8 of them, so its like 2600w. Only about 1000w on the other side.
My 8k uses 8 of them per side (so 16 total) so yeah, lota powa
Wow that's cool to know.
Straight away without even knowing the model or specs I noticed massive the fets were and got extra curious 😂 impressive. Would love to see it on a scope for noise etc
Are they real though?
Not a bad amp at all. I was shocked by the power output.
After seeing the guts, i felt like it would definitely beat rated power. I just didnt expect it to double/triple it(dynamically).
Amazing budget banger. I like the way it looks with the gold.
Me too!
Holy 💩dude. I've never ordered anything from temu but for the money that's fkn nuts 🙃
When you buy electronics, and they have electronics in them...AMAZING!
You really are coming along with your vids D very nice . Thanks for your time my friend
Great scores, and if you had used larger wires you possibly would have got even more power
This is why I never miss a video. Cheap car audio forever way!
With the model being ZM2502, Makes me think it translates to 250w x 2 channels. It certainly didn't do terrible in testing. The 40a x2 fuses made me think it should do something more in that ballpark.
Guessing approximately 800 rms Bridged....😊... I usually take total fuse rating times 10 volts because of the loss of efficiency.... gets close usually.... it did better than expected
Wow! What a pleasant surprise! I would give it a try.
Wow. Yeah did not expect that result. Nice to see the chinese amps are getting better.
it's probably imported from Korea
@@chuckholmes2075 dont u mean design stolen from Korea?
@rob.db it's not that serious 😂
Like I always say, the car audio world is a huge mess of brands and non-brands and you never know what you may get.
There are alot of fake brands that don't do much power at all and then we have fake brands that actually do for a great price. It's a risky business.
It is risky especially when you cant see what's inside till you get it Stateside. The thing about it is.......This "cheap" stuff is getting pretty damn good in the last 4yrs. Maybe the restoration of electronic components (after Covid) plays a factor in the grand scheme of it all. Time will tell.
60 plus percent efficiency. Not bad!!
Thank You...for us down South....Like South Africa South, the premium brands cost a arm and a leg to be brought in/shipped in....double what it would in the USA/UK....these cheap TEMU amps come in way less price wise......so Im glad I actually got to see them being put in the dyno...so I can bump for less
I have seen the 1800. 1 it looks impressive
I was wondering about why they used 2 x 40 amp fuses with that 300 watt rating. With those fuses you would be able to hit over 1000 watts at 14 volts. SQ is always a factor too, it's what I aim for.
Another great video Big D💪 Keep up the amazing work my friend
Loved the video! Haha, King Kong capacitor! Love a new video on Sundays!
Wow, not too bad for a 100 dollars on temu. It would be good on some 8s or 10s for mid bass.
I mean that kind of AB power for that price is pretty crazy.
Love these cheap amp tests, and even better when we're surprised!
Damn!! Those King Kong caps are the goods!
Ì guess King Kong IS in the house..lol
wow this seems like a great deal for most of us
Never underestimate black king Kong capacitors again! Lololol 🤣
@@PedroKing99
You will never go back!
I miss the old power acoustik apache and vue amplifiers with the clear top and blue light up gauges.
1 ohm and .5 ohm test would have been a fun watch
10:57 You want to get into electrical engineering and dissect an amp for $100 that's a perfect specimen especially if you push it to its limits have it fail and then repair it. Even cheap amps have their purpose. ☺️👌
After seeing the dual 40amp fuses and pausing the video.... if this thing even comes close to ~600W dynamic, I am going to order it.
OMG...and THIS is what I love seeing in certain decent A/B Amplifiers. The Dynamic power is insane. 2024 baby Alpine 3545 anyone ?
Very impressive really. They look decent too. And to think, this isn't even their "sub" amp.
I think its high time we get a name brand amp of equivalent power to go toe to toe with the mystery meat. Would love to see you get some of the current uber high dollar stuff into the lab as well, Helix, Focal, Morel Scanspeak, Seas, etc etc
I think the plastic panel was probably cracked before shipping, the screw was over tightened.
I appreciate the video. What a gem!
big D i was just looking that same amp and I like the look😎
i fully expected less than 300w total power, and LOTS of smoke when 2ohm bridged... boy was i proven wrong lol
Bermans is an amp from Temu that looks super powerful rated at 2500.1 can you do a test on that one?? Thanks for testing this one.
Buy one and send it to him. He will test it.
Actually very nice, love the over power results. Really crap speakers for the testing but oh well.
I'd love to see you test one of those low profile subs i seen when you was scrolling.
I can't believe this amp did this a value too from temu wow
That's a lot of class AB power for $100. If these guys would have been around back in the day, they probably would have given Rockford Fosgate a run for it's money. I don't think I would buy it to put in a daily driver, but it would be nice to just have in something like a demo setup.
You just know that they gave the only person in the company with some English experience full marketing control on this one. It's hard to complain about much on this thing.
Oh no that was very expected haha. Looking at the size of output stage and power supply when I saw the ratings I was like nah it’s gonna demolish that. 5242 3263 transistors are big high power BJTs and there’s 8 of them. They’re very popular devices found in most of the giant Asian class H amps. With a bigger power supply it would do considerably more power. Looks like a plain simple dual complimentary class AB
Also the Elna caps are real XD. Unmistakable patented crimp on the top
If the King Kong amp performs this well I wonder what their Godzilla model can do?😮😊
@@Geerladenlad King Kong is stronger than Godzilla
@mr.billbradley4510 I Saw them both in a bench press competition and Godzilla won.
Hidden gem
Those 90's Hondas with black paint & gold badging were cool as f tho !
I started the video expecting to fall off my chair laughing. I nearly fell off my chair in surprise. Didn't see this coming, wow. Not sure I'd buy it, but it's way above what it's spec'd at. Too bad some "name brands" still choose to use fake ratings, while companies like this can actually overperform.
That shit sold out quick 😂
I thought this was April fool's or groundhog Day.. I didn't realize this was real advertising. Good lord this is another episode of laugh in 😆😆😆
"Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me!"
...Dang were old !
1:47 lololol 🤣 you got me good here!
If it will do 2ohm bridged . It should do 1ohm stereo
How toasty did the heatsink get? I have a pride quattro plus and it gets very very hot. No idea if its supposed to
It has the wrong output transistors!
It's clearly silk screened on the PCB C5200 which means 2SC5200/2SA1943. Would be interesting to see the numbers this beast can do with the correct ones
Those King Kong capacitors are clearly coming through in the test results😂
On a budget, I couldn’t be mad. I spend $100 per fill up.. I’m kinda willing to risk it and test it on a pair of down4sound 3way components 😂
Great and now I can’t find one on temu
It even has Tiffinany RCAs.
It's looking a little like an old soundstream app or an old jet audio amp inside there
I didnt expect the power output on this amp. I am shocked!!! I just wonder on the longevity or continue long playing. Is it durable?
The Dynos commercial is my favorite so far 🤣🤣🤣
With a hot spot at 302 degrees, I would think those joints would desolder themselves after a few times.
It's Fahrenheit but I agree that long term that would be the first place to check if it fails. Easy fix too.
@@courier11sec how easy to repair depends on how well the board holds up.
@hughbrackett343 sure but that's the same with any amp. Even if a person were to pick this up and give it a look for likely weak points to address like adding a bit of active cooling, maybe sine vibration mitigation and if the board is flimsy a bit of reinforcement it's a crazy value for the money. Seems like a great opportunity to get into learning repair and modification too.
I saw a BERMANS AMP that says 11000 watts max on temu its the QMF-110.6 $110
King kong caps for the Win
I would like to know how well the Stinger 4 channel runs. Claims 150 watts per channel.
The problem with amplifiers with transparent covers is that they never add illumination to truly show off the guts. Then you also can't just put it somewhere to be showcased by natural light because the sunlight will eventually fade the acrylic.
Also a simple mod like adding a fan for active cooling . The remote turn on is 12volt & right there to utilize. Lights a very low draw.
People prefer to not tinker with their stuff, or modify it @@Rob.DB.
@@eustahijelifetips After I buy it it becomes my stuff & not theirs anymore . I love moding & wish I could mod everything in my life as easy as adding a fan & some leds to this amp! LoL!
@@Rob.DB. But you wouldn't be able to do any internal modification without voiding the warranty. Not that big of a deal on an amp like this, but maybe something to consider on an amp you spent like $500 on.
It's something simple and inexpensive enough that they should include it from the factory. A cooling fan should come on pretty much every A/B amp, crazy how they didn't put one on something with this kind of power, but perhaps it might not have allowed them to keep it at the $100 mark.
@@ranchosdelnorte i havent had any problems with heat on old amps, and they never had a fan or slits for cooling, they were of good quality, the new compact amps on the other hand, they get hot as soon as they turn on, its better not to avoid installing a fan on them, i still dont trust them
You should review the mini max 3000
Give dem keys back 2Alan!
I got one of these because of this video and it was broken in the same place
Im going to be replacing the gold end caps with laser cut and folded aluminium and possibly a fan or 2
İrf 1404 strong mosfet, damping factor perfect, really good. Thanks.
im going to email JP and ask when he is going to have king kong capacitors..
Heeeeeey. I wanted those $350 gold trim package when I was buying my green 98 accord.
What AMP do you Recommend under $100.00 with SQ n Good Power... 2 channel S and 4 Channel ??? Thanks you,..
Umm. When you did your bridged tests, the title card says 40hz but then you stated you were doing it in 1K. Should have tried it at 40hz.
Truly surprising output for the price but it’s not destined for a long life. It needs a much larger mass of aluminum at its a/b class power level for passive cooling so without fans it will cook if used for long periods.
Ikr! & all they had do was a cheap fan but wanted to keep pp at 100 for multi reasons.Just another max profit production (M.P.P.) -no care for how many amps blow up bc time they do, the "company "will be defunct so no customer service, or accountability! -Its the ONLY Chinese business model ! -"QUICK CASH GRAB"
Some thick thermal pads or thermal putty underneath the board would help soak the heat and a small fan on the acrylic cover.
Honestly wasn’t even remotely expecting those results. Almost 3x rated at 2ohms stereo, and that mono output… yikes. That 2 ohm mono though… sheesh
I hate to break it to you big D, that's a boss onyx ndx from back in the early 20teens .
Well maybe not but the first thing I said to myself as soon as I seent da board . It's funny how the super cheap amps hit closer to advertised than a lot of the more main stream companies.
What tests were done to determine this amp doesn't put out SQ sound as an AB amp ?
TEMU selling it at RMS power
Holy Batshit Robin!!! 😮😂 wasn’t expecting that. Wonder how many people blew their elcheapo 6.5” door speakers? 😂. They should handle 450 watts “ max power “ I don’t understand what happened 🤦🏻♂️
Guess you could call it the donkey Kong
Just take the broken chip out of the corner and it will have a self cooling system. Lol