Basics: Morningstar Device Editor for your MIDI Controller
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- How to program your Morningstar MIDI controller using our Device Editor. We also reveal some of the new features that have been added to the Editor to enhance your overall user experience. Sections time stamped for your convenience below:
0:00 - Introduction
2:09 - Programming a Preset
4:38 - Editing a Bank
4:59 - Backing up your Controller
5:29 - MIDI Monitor
6:22 - MIDI Dictionary
How to update your controller firmware: • How to Update your Mor...
Morningstar Engineering: www.morningstar.io
Yes! Mine is actually in the mail. Thanks for making this. Stoked to sit down with this device and get it rolling with my Headrush Looperboard. Cheers!
Brilliant. I am so loving this device.
Anyone new to midi, towards the end of the video he touches on something that was a huge obstacle for me till he covered it. Any of your pedals that take midi can be set to a midi channel via the pedals global settings. never frikin knew that as I'm new to all thigns midi lol. I had pedals controlling other pedals at random times when turning knobs and couldn't figure it out. It was because they were chained together via midi and set to the same channel....whoops!
Thank you for making these videos! Very helpful and clearly described.
I struggled at first...but now, great
Well done!
LOL. "Dopest preset ever" - Busy setting up my MC8. I started two nights ago. Still learning features.
You've thought of EVERYTHING!
One thing -- it would be really nice to see on the MC8 display a rough column indicating 0-127, scrap a letter from the preset name, and use it for that? :)
Awesome! Could you please do an update to this video explaining what the difference between 'Edit Preset" and the Edit Bank Preset Messages and what the Bank Preset Messages are for? Your products are just amazing!
Hi. Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, we have that lined up on our video roster. Cheers!
Saving a MIDI dictionary command to a bank/preset would be my next feature request
You can copy the command from the MIDI dictionary and then paste it to your preset in the editor
@@MorningstarEngineering that is almost too awesome.
@morningstar - can we plz get an updated version of this? This one is 3 yrs old and the UI has changed with firmware updates. Thank you! 🙏
Please more information on how to control the AxeFx3 fully!
Would you mind adding the Eventide Factor pedals (PitchFactor, TimeFactor, ModFactor and Space) to your Midi Dictionary? Please?
Also, thanks for your mind-blowing, awesome and rugged products! Great company!
Nice
Awesome. I have a doubt, in the Mark Johnston video, he have a Home Page for his individual pedals, so he can enter each pedal settings. Is that a special type of page? or it is just a normal Bank with different presets, and each preset sends you to a toggle page? I planning to configure a Home Page like him, with my Timeline, Bigsky, Golden Boy and Broken Arrow settings. Thanks for the help
Hi. Mark used the same Bank Jump function shown here. He just filled the bank up with different presets and switch functions. Cheers!
Great video. Is the Quad Cortex in the MIDI Dictionary? Thanks.
Hi. Yes, it is! To check it out, you can use our editor in Demo Mode if you don't have one of our controllers connected: editor-mkii.morningstar.io/mcgen2
Can you please provide an explanation for what "PC 23" is? As well as CC 17 and CC 127? I am a BRAND NEW midi control user and don't under stand the significance of these figures or how they will apply to my instrument with MIDI capabilities. Thank you and Godbless.
Hi. Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
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How are you plugging into the computer? Is that a usb to thunderbolt cable?
Are the screens on your devices different? The MC6 is a white screen and the MC8 is a black screen? Is one of them OLED?
Hi. From 3 August 2021, we moved completely to LCD screens with white backgrounds. The Quality Control reject rate of the previous black ones was getting too high and we could not continue to use them. We changed all our product photos to reflect this change in color as well. Since then we've also had some customers ask how they can change their black screens to white (and vice versa). Both colors work great but the QC rejection rate was something we could no longer accept.
Can i define if I want to send all msg at once on one button or in batches? For example if I want to send two cc messages on the first press then another three cc messages on the second press..
Hi. Yes you can. We made a video explaining that too: ua-cam.com/video/VEr0TB58EgA/v-deo.html
is there a way to program the 6 knobs on a bank to toggle between the 6 just seeing the full names of the presets NOT the 6 short namens all the time?
Hi. Sorry, that is not a feature available on our controllers.
Does it support footswitch hold? I need it for my headrush gigboard
Do you mean you want to hold down a switch to send some MIDI messages and release it to send other messages? Yes, you can. We explain that in this video: ua-cam.com/video/XP8UgpnbjiQ/v-deo.htmlsi=7fl91irYZmj4DeYP
Hi! I bought mine used and wanted to start fresh on it, but couldn't find a way to do a factory reset. I looked in the manual and it said to hold the reset button, but I couldn't figure out which button that was. Anyway anyone could help? WOuld really appreciate it!
Hi. The reset switch can be found in the global configuration menu on the controller itself.
How do you program "Note on" to something like a Looptimus prime app for tracks
Hi Andres. Just select the Note On message type from the drop down list.
I would like to get one of these to switch between the 4 channels on my H&K GM40 Deluxe Amp. However, I cant find any info on how to go about setting this up. Thx.
Hi. It's really easy. Amp channel selection is saved as part of a preset on your amp. You can recall that preset via MIDI by sending a program change message. Refer to page 5 - 2.4 Programming a preset in your amp manual here: hughes-and-kettner.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GM_40_Deluxe_BDA_1_3.pdf
Do the four 1/8" midi outputs on the back of my MC3 simply send the midi from expression pedal to all four out's all the time?
Hi. Yes that is correct
@@MorningstarEngineering Thank you for the reply! I kinda figured it out but reassurance is appreciated. It looks like I may need another expression pedal after all. The MC3 is a very useful tool, I'm using it to switch instruments and the associated presets for two guitars and flute.
@@TheFarout69 These 2 videos may be of use to you - ua-cam.com/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/m6rMVbxCoa4/v-deo.html Cheers!
So is it one message per button? And you have to change the way you operate the button to send different messages?
Hi. You can send up to 16 different messages per switch via 16 different channels. Each MIDI message has an assignable action so you can send different messages by performing different actions such as Press, Double Tap, Long Press, Release etc.
Is it possible to have it plugged into the pedalboard and just save the state of several pedals at once as a preset?
Hi. Unfortunately, that's not how MIDI pedals work. They do not send out MIDI data to the MIDI controller. It is however, pretty simple to save and recall presets using MIDI. We explain so in this video: ua-cam.com/video/VVpT0IYUMwI/v-deo.html
I cant PC a pedal, unless its the first one in line. Ex: My setup is Morningstar-DD500-Bigsky-ML5, the ML5 wont receive PC message from the morningstar unless its in this order: Mornigstar-ML5-DD500-Bigsky. Same issue i had with the Midi clock tap. My setup was Mornigstar-Bigsky-DD500-ML5 to begin with, it didnt work so when i put it in this order, Morningstar-dd500-bigsky-ML5 it works. So its almost like the morningstar only works right with the first pedal in the midi chain
sounds like the MIDI Thru setting in your Bigsky is off. You need to turn it on if you want to pass messages thru
@@MorningstarEngineering thanks for the tip, everything is working now
Any change you'll have an IOS or android editor in the future? :)
Hi Don. You can already do that with your mobile browser. You'll just need a cable to connect your device to your Morningstar controller via USB. For Android, use Chrome browser. For iOS, use the free Web MIDI browser that is downloadable from the app store. Just visit the web editor URL as you would on desktop and edit away!
Morningstar Engineering thanks for the reply. Whats the name of the ios app?
@@musicandthewalk Web MIDI Browser
I would super cool to have the editor available for an iPhone. I don’t know if that possible but it would be super cool.
Hi. The editor works on mobile devices but the small screen does not make for a great user experience. An ipad would be better suited. You just need to connect the mobile devices port to the USB port of our controllers. For iOS devices, you will need to use the MIDI Web Browser app. For Android, you can just use Chrome.
@@MorningstarEngineering please do a video on that
Do you a link for that app you mention for iOS?
I can't seem to get this to function. I set up a preset but it doesn't show up in the Midi Monitor...
Hi. Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
Is there a way to work on the editor without the controller being connected?
You can use the setlist manager. You can select the setlist manager from the tool bar on the top of the editor
Got stuck on the very first step. The video shows you pressing a button on the controller and it changes which bank and preset is being edited within the Editor on the computer. Of course this did work until spent about 20 minutes trying to figure it out. Turns out there's a setting that allows for this that has to be changed first. Kind of sucks that the video doesn't represent how to actually use the device. May seem minor to you, but to a new user like me, I just got totally stuck and I haven't even begun.
Hi. Thank you for your feedback and our apologies for the inconvenience. This video was published before that feature was implemented. While we are unable to update a video that has already been published, our manuals are continually updated and kept current. Thank you again for your patience and for figuring it out.
My morning star device is not showing up on the screen. It looks connected but when I press switches on the MorningStar nothing happens within the software
With the recent updates, you now need to go to Editor Settings to enable a setting to load preset data with switch presses. It is off by default as some features are disabled when this functions is enabled. Otherwise, you can select presets to program from the list on the right. We are probably due for a new Editor video now as we have made many upgrades since this video was released.
@@MorningstarEngineering Perfect! Thank you so much
Hello, I have the MC3 and it doesnt show the bpm its currently in. Its that normal?
Hi. We've recently added BPM readout for the MC3 and MC6 in the latest firmware release. We explained how to use it in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/u4fGxzyl3W0/v-deo.html
@@MorningstarEngineering Thanks!!!
How do I know which PC number to use?
What PC number you use will depend on what preset you want to recall on your receiving device.
i still dont understand how to use this mc8 into my pedalboard..hayzzz...too bad
Hi! Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.
suitable to beatbuddy ?
Hi. Our controllers work well with any device that accepts MIDI. For the feature list please refer to our website: www.morningstarfx.com/features
Does the editor send MSB/LSB messages?
Yes. There is a built-in MSB LSB calculator in our Editor to help you with that too.
But the editor doesnt have actual MSB/LSB drop downs in the menu?@@MorningstarEngineering
@@wireguy123 You can find the Editor tools to help with MSB/LSB here: ua-cam.com/video/fw3wq37ZHd4/v-deo.html
OMG im getting rid of my piece of shit midi maestro and getting this! Singular sound have the ugliest app from 1980 to edit the midi maestro. This is what a midi controller is all about! Also I have a question, how loud are the switches to press for intimate gigs as I do sound immersion?
Hi. We use soft touch foot switches on all our controllers so they are as quiet as stomp box foot switches can be.
You say it sends 'up to 16 MIDI messages simultaneously." This is neither true nor possible, as MIDI is a serial protocol and you have to send one at a time. Since there are many instances where the order of MIDI messages is important, I believe you should stress the order they're sent in your instructions (I assume they're sent from top to bottom???).
What we meant by simultaneously was the number of messages that can be sent with a single switch press. A single press simultaneously triggers all the messages to be sent. The time difference between each message is imperceptible. Yes, the messages are sent in sequence from top to bottom.
@@MorningstarEngineering And what I meant is it's misleading, because very few of the people that buy your products are going to understand how it really works.
Programming. This is the biggest pain in the ass ever.
We try to make it as simple as possible! It's something unavoidable as every user has different control wants/needs. We've made numerous improvements to our products and Editor since this video was released. You can try out the Editor in demo mode too if you like here: editor-mkii.morningstar.io/