Tyra calls Model DESPERATE For THIS
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Today I take a look at the baby jaguar photoshoot from ANTM!
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They eliminate them for "not wanting it badly enough" and for "wanting it too much". Amazing.
Typical abuse - it's always lose-lose situations.
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Its not like thats news for „reality“ tv
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. You can't win with these people. lol
Tyra is the absolute empress of the double standard
The irony of using faux fur... And then doing this to a jaguar. This is very much NOT an ethical animal shoot.
Agreed 💯!
I do recall from Hannah's interview with Oliver TwiXt that the agency saw her jaguar photo in her portfolio, they instantly recognized it from being on ANTM which resulted her not getting booked. Damn. The show is definitely the kiss of death to model's career.
Yes, it is. :(
They considered it "a reality tv show" and not "modeling"
It almost feels like a pyramid scheme, the way it victimizes the participants
@@origamipein18 but why? What's so bad about partaking in a show like this?
@@IsabellaQuinns so in part the surface answer is a snobby attitude.
They feel fashion is about art and the unattainable so antm pitching to the lowest common denominator goes against that elitism.
However, shows like AusNTM was basically a roadmap to a modelling career. So what's different? AusNTM changed out hosting and had an active major designer and a head of an agency on the cast list and made a lot fewer seasons so were more selective. Also having more recent or current fashion folk involved meant they recognized the emerging importance of social media, brand ambassadors, and real world events.
ANTM was about Tyra and about good TV. It's fashion and judging panel was stuck in the 90s if not earlier (with Twiggy and Janice). It had chances to be closer to fashion but moves like moving to LA or Tyra's need for the absurd torpedoed those chances. There are a handful who achieved something from antm but they probably had more to do with those individuals than the leg up they had from tyra. And a lot of the biggest names made it in media or film, not modelling, because ANTM was selecting for TV. So they had trouble attracting actual attention from within fashion houses, photographers, etc. Then had unusuable photoshoots that were so overly retouched that the model was basically unnecessary in a lot of cases.
All the while, antm showcases drama, making the models seem dramatic and unprofessional while having an unuseable book.
Tyra supposedly goes through the film and picks the final shot. For Molly's she picked a close up beauty shot. In a fashion photoshoot. And then BLAMES MOLLY like wtf lol
Make it make sense, Tyra.
THANK YOU for pointing out the exploitation of the animals. The fact that in 90% of the photos the jaguar wasn't even facing the camera and was clearly trying to run away just proves that they didn't need it for this shoot.
I'm so over these poor animals being used as props. I just think about tiger king, and how this cub was probably bred in captivity and may not have lived much longer after this shoot.
@@cjani1387 This. ^^^^
And photoshoots are long! And the poor jaguar had to "pose" with all the models.
So trough exploitation, the jaguar just wanted to leave.
The flash photography definitely made it worse too you can see him squirm more every time the lights go off.
Also, Morato (they misspelled his name on antm) is alive and well at Project Survival Cat Haven in California. 💖
Why was the handler ok with this?
Oh good ❤
@@heidifedorcash
“Desperate to win”?! Doesn’t the show constantly dump contestants for “not knowing why they’re here” or not “wanting it bad enough”?!
Yes. ):
I can not stand using animals or babies and ESPECIALLY baby animals as props. They have no idea what is happening, most of the time they are scared big time. Why would you stress a living creature for sake of couple pics. If you bring your own animal to the photoshoot - fine but the moment they are done, they are done. And don't get me started with Easter photoshoots when they bring bunnies to the studio just to use them for couple of shoots and then get rid of them...
Yes i million times agree LOL
If the animals are not being harmed then I don’t see the problem in using them for a photo shoot or art.
Totally agree with you.. says the woman who has baby animals as her profile pic 🤣
There are safe and ethical ways to use animals in photography. What ANTM is doing here is clearly neither of those things but it can be done.
@@ckilbarger01 I'm a photographer myself and I am aware of that. But see the difference between photographing animals and using them as a prop. I did have a family photoshoot with a cat, the moment I saw him being uncomfortable I asked them to let him be and leave him out of photos. I let my clients come to photoshoots with their family and for me it includes pets but I would never stress a pet, a baby or someone with disability. Damn, even a proffesional model may be exhausted and over with a photoshoot. There are boundries to everything. And if it's an animal that is trained for photoshoots (like dogs or horses) then yeah, they still have their limits and you also don't come to their face with a flash :p
The worst part is, this isn't a cat. It's not a domesticated animal, it's a wild animal. This is animal abuse. Thanks for calling it out. I also think they sedated him. Sedating wild animals is really common, especially if you want to take photos with them. They even give antidepressants to animals in zoos and stuff.
I wouldn't even be okay if it were a cat or a dog, or any other animal really. Animals are animals, not props.
@@BeautyMonster1000 True. But this is extra fucked up because a dog or a cat could theoretically be trained to actually enjoy posing and taking photos.
It is a cat, it is a wild cat. It is not a domestic cat.
If it’s not a cat, what is it? A rooster?
@@DeezNutzOnYoChinnyChin A jaguar is not a cat just like a wolf isn't a dog. They might fall in the same family, but people need to realized the major difference between them. I know this is more of a language thing, but you get what I mean.
I love how they always have these super obscure photographers and designers but they all seem to know who they are 😂 always gets me
On the bright side, this one's for Rachel Zoe, who was SUPER mainstream at the time -- but especially the photographers haha you can see the girls reacting positively because the producers told them to 😂
I never understood the hate for Alexandria she was bullied the whole season, and the producers making her look like the bad guy didn't help. I did like how she kept her head up through all of this.
It gets worse next season when they bring her back for All Stars, the crowd freaking BOOs her and only her during their first runway…
This show was so mean to her!
I love Alexandria! I didn't get it either
Admittedly, I wasn’t impressed by Alexandria the first couple of episodes, but she grew on me. She is probably just one of those people who may lack the self-awareness to understand that sometimes the things she was saying may have been misinterpreted as mean when she wasn’t intending to come across that way. She did have the drive and motivation to do anything though and I admire that.
I always thought Monique was way more a mean girl than Alexandria, Alex was just like soo extra, but I don't think she was necessary mean. Monique I could not stand
@@17JessyJonas same
Jessica always has me dying 😂 “They plucked him from the wild and shoved a soft box in his face”
Omg props Jessica for displaying how cats don't wanna pose🤣
Poor Dahlia. They really gave her such a hard time. She was probably the most high fashion model in the group, yet the judges really tore her confidence up. Even back then when I was young, it was painful to watch. I hope Dahlia is doing well. I would like to see Oliver TwiXt reach out to her so she can do an interview to share her experience on the show.
Kasia actually said that during this photoshoot , she was breaking out in hives due to an allergic reaction to the jaguar & they didn’t show it on TV .
Alexandria was a strong, confident model. However, the other contestants were NOT having her controlling, obnoxious ways. But at the same time, the producers REALLY know how to do someone dirty on this show.
It made me feel so bad for the jaguar when Alexandria hissed at him; he startled. My mother instinct switch immediately flipped to protective pity. XD
I have held lion cubs and cheetah cubs, they get more and more annoyed with each person to hold them If you look at the model who "looks like you're just petting a cat" you'll see the cub being calmer than the rest, because she wasn't holding him he was in control. Also: HE IS A WILD ANIMAL!
I definitely get the vibes that this girl (Mikayla, I think) understood that the jaguar wasn't happy with being held so she just didn't hold him to let him be comfortable with her and they wanted her to struggle but she was smarter than them 🤭
theres really strict animal working laws where i am from and they definitely wouldve had a huge issue with the law if they used the same animal for every one of the girls. they shouldve had least 3 cubs there and swap them out so they get a break. or not do this shoot at all.
@@MF-gq1dt Exactly. I almost wonder if they wanted the cub to be agitated
Cats in general need to feel like they are in control or they will not be comfortable
Yeah, this is also a really unfair shoot bc this poor animal is going to get increasingly uncomfortable and frustrated as the day goes on. So the last girl is screwed no matter how hard she tries.
Like you said, Jessica, it’s hard enough to hold onto a regular sized cat when they don’t wanna be held, let alone a wild one. And yeah, how are they gonna call that girl “too desperate” when every other episode they’re calling girls down for not being passionate enough or daring to care about other things besides modelling?! Truly can’t win with this show!
Jagwire had me dead😂
I was not prepared for "I would name him Crusty." 🤣🤣🤣
I get strong vibes that the woman holding the cat is morally against this and very concerned but her boss is making her so she's damn well going to be there to step in when things inevitably go South.
As a cat owner yes it's true, cats will make it very well known when they've had enough and they won't be shy about it either and also 2:22 thank you for saying this because it's unfortunately very true
My theory is that all cat haters hate introverts. Cats are just chill dudes who want to cuddle and play and nap. If you try to treat them as extroverted dogs, theyre gonna get overstimulated and be upset.
All cat haters I know never lived with one. Their experience is with other people's cats, and then they don't like them because they can't pet or play with them (as most cats with a stranger person). Some were "attacked" and are afraid... But as long as they have the opportunity to have one or to interact more with a cat, they start loving them. Always.
I hate cats, I lived with one while I sat for it. Also I'm kinda of an introvert so your theory is out the window
Hopefully, this is just a joke... If not, the irony is that this is one of the most ableist comments I've ever read.
@@francisbarp I hope this also is a joke. It's so mean and ablest like the comment above if it's not.
@@alexrcastaneda Agreed. What a weird generalization to make about people. It's obvious Jessica was joking, so hopefully, these people are too.
jessica looking at her cat when monique said she hates cats
i could hear her thoughts like HOW DARE SHE OMG
that jaguar is under so much stress and they could care less. but im not surprised.. ANTM treats humans like crap so i didn’t expect anything less with animals
Yes it's quite jarring to see misuse of animals like this :(
you could tell how upset he was
I’m glad you mentioned the whole thing about animals being exploited. It’s upsetting that people only see them as props. If someone doesn’t see why that is wrong, then they really need to search inside themselves to find out why that is.
17:18 Tyra is giving the same energy to Molly as I’m getting from my boss right now. Basically reprimanding Molly for something that was out of her control (bad photo framing, terrible weave, cat being tired and distracting during the shoot). Looking to change jobs, lol
Jess was not here for Monique’s cat slander 😂
I'm still waiting for The Hague tribunal to charge Tyra with crimes against humanity for Molly's weave.
Same.
For real. That was basically abuse lol
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When they make girls go home because they have to “want it more” but then make fun of Dalya for being “desperate”🙄
NEW DRINKING GAME IDEA: TAKE A SHOT EVERYTIME JESSICA SAYS "JAGWIRE". LOL
I need a timestamp
The fact that Kasia has an allergy to animal and they make it force her to do it, it's absolutely disgrace. I had once got an allergy reactions when I was looking at stray kittens and my body immediately got itchy. I didn't go to a doctor because I immediately used a strong powder which is made for allergy and I took a rest and my cousin who is a doctor sent me a medicine. I really hope Kasia was immediately going to hospital or have her own medicine after that shoot.
As far as "What did Alexandria do?" goes, iirc she was a little bit socially awkward.
That's it. It felt like the girls just needed a target for their anger and landed on Alexandria.
She didn't do or say anything to deserve the amount of hatred and bullying she got.
Tigerking, but make it fashion
On top of how the jaguar is obviously getting overstimulated and agitated, it doesn't look like they gave the girls any direction at all for how to hold him beyond very vague instructions on how to avoid being bitten. I wouldn't hold a domestic cat like half of them did, let alone an upset baby jaguar.
ETA: I also think if they wanted a wild looking cat, I'm sure they could've found a place with trained domestic breeds (like toygers and ocicats) that would be more comfortable in this situation and that they could switch out when they needed to.
Cycle 16 was such an uptick from the previous cycles in terms of the quality of contestants. They had so so many stunning girls who took fantastic photos. Brittani and Molly are one of the best final twos ever.
Yes! Till this day I think cycle 16 had the best models
I really did not care for Brittany. At all. She was so unprofessional her yelling at Alexandria at a shoot. I really just did not like her attitude.
@@ShermanCassidy Who cares when she was such a good model
@@ShermanCassidy She was also a teenager at the time though, so I can cut her some slack for not being the most mature at the time. ANTM also instigates drama with all the girls and convinces them to fight with each other, so I wouldn't hold that against her now.
Molly’s ramen hair weave was a mess. 😂
I like how oblivious Mister Jay is, about the fact that having a pet doesn't give you the ability to handle a wild animal.
As soon as I realized you're a cat person I hit the subscribe button. From one cat mom to another. 🐈⬛Keep up the good work! I love your content.
I love how you demonstrated with your cat how much cats usually don't want to be held for long.
I feel so bad for the baby jaguar. He was clearly very stressed. The poor animal. :S
Every episode it's the same - "Let's see your best shot", shows terrible shot which was definitely not their best. It's as if they forget we saw the photoshoot. Nonsense.
It's do obvious that kitty is not happy. All different people holding him and the flashes is too much for him, he's just a baby. It seems like they want the models to totally ignore his comfort. He was happinest with the girl hissing at him.
This season was brutal. They treated the girls so poorly and stoked animosity between them.
I just realized that Tyra reminds me of Michael Scott. She wants her bits to work soooo bad, but she's surrounded by people who are just trying to get through the damned day.
Jessica, I wish the models could have heard your commentary back then. You're the reality checker that would have made them feel stronger and less bullied.
As a Monique who likes cats, I feel insulted that a model with the same name as me hates cats.
I feel bad for Murato. He was probably all: "Help! Mama! Save me!" D:
"Have you never separated a baby jaguar from its mother before??" I'm cackling
Okay ALSO "the suit is too tight maybe Mr J is grumpy like the jaguar" YES JESSICA FINALLY THE JUDGES BEING SUBJECTED TO THE SAME CRITICISM AS THE MODELS
ANTM: No animal was harmed on a photo shoot
Us: What was with the little jaguar baby?
They should have had a cat for each model so the cat wasn't over when worked
Not that I’m condoning using wild animals for photo shoots, but why would they not have multiple animals so that they could have breaks and play/eat/rest in between the girls’ shoots???
I had the same reaction to the “I don’t like cats” 😹
Mollys hair😔 wtf tyra…
I just watched your reaction to the ice cream episode [where the girls had to hold like 5 scoops of ice cream for no good reason] and Nigel's dumb remark about "if you took the animal away I don't think you'd look genius" could be applied literally anywhere there's a prop. If you take out Tyra's stupid ice cream those girls holding air would look pretty ridiculous, too.
These judges are so un-genius
I remember getting really angry by that comment. Dude, the assignment was to pose with the jaguar, if she didn't have to pose with him, Alexandria would have approached the photoshoot differently.
To this day, i don’t understand how Hannah was able to wear her hair in pigtails and owned it as a grown woman. And how she styled them too, I want to know!
Mr. J at a models funeral: "I know she fell off the roof of the skyscraper while we were shooting, and its tragic. But, we got this shot of her falling, and honestly, she could have looked better"
Pipsy’s little meows melted me! Cutie pie!
These videos are some of my favorites because you keep it so real and have so much empathy for the models.
That poor baby jaguar! As a cat parent, I know that most of my cats don’t like behind held. And they are domestic.
“What’s not to like about cats? They literally run your household,
For you.”
😂
I don't know why you pronouncing it "jaguire" instead of "jaguar" tickled my funny bone so much xD But that poor creature, they could've posed with a stuffed animal and gotten the same results
You should see this season through. The girls were great but the mental gymnastics the judges and producers put them through was absurd. From Alexandria getting the villain edit, Molly's bad weave, and the constant tearing of Hannah's psyche towards the end of the season.
Both of my cats really detest being held. When my eldest was a kitten he could sometimes like it being held like a baby, but that was only by me, only when he wanted cuddles and only for 3 minutes. The younger one can be hold when he's scared (say NYE and effing fireworks here in The Netherlands), but then still he wants to be hold in a very specific way - as if he's flying while lying flat on my arms, so there isn't a typical hold - and it'll last about a minute, max 2. In all other cases he will just bite you softly if you don't release him. But usually (I have Siberians and they're *strong*) I am not even able to hold them because they'll have wiggled out of my arms himself using his super strong back legs. And they're PETS! Raised from baby to be around humans. That poor baby jag is a wild animal with all the instincts of a cat AND that of an animal in the jungle/on the steppes. If they'd let him loose and/or sleep in between shoots then maybe it would've been fair to each model, especially the later ones, and easier for the poor baby.
It says enough that the only model that didn't hold him had the most relaxed baby jaguar with her.
In what order was the models shoot? Seems obvious that the jaguar is will become increasingly difficult with all the flashing cameras and being held. Was someone set up to fail?
It always upsets and angers me to see baby animals being exploited and handed around to people like a toy. It’s so stressful and damaging for the animals. If they so desperately wanted an animal in the picture, frigging photoshop it.
I really hate the phrase “fiercely real”. It was totally just Tyra’s way of setting the bigger model apart from the others. A different way to call her fat or plus sized, to mark her as different since they couldn’t really call her fat or plus sized on tv by this stage. She’s just a model like the others are also just models. She doesn’t need a special phrase for it.
If a cat doesn't want to be held, it's not going to be held. I'm not surprised that a jaguar is similar to a house-cat in this way.
Bro tbh Alexandria was ballsy for hissing at a jaguar lmao
This episode is just animal cruelty. It's pretty disgusting that they would force this wild animal to do something that it clearly is really uncomfortable and force the Jaguar through this with no care. Even in movies, they have multiples of the animal they are using to not over stimulate or create stress on the animal. Can't believe this show went on for as long as it did. I love watching you because you break down the episodes and the BS that these girls had to go through. I appreciate you for this.
Did anyone else notice that dahlia was the only girl to not be given big hair to play with? Like everyone else’s was teased and stayed in place (giving their poses even more shape) and dahlia’s fell limp when she tried to play with it. Maybe it has something to do with her natural hair, but idk…
I would never put my own cat in this situation, neither as a kitten nor fully grown, never mind a jaguar cub! Poor little one.
the poor cat being shuffled from human to human for hours; held still in positions...just wrong. If U want to take a photo with a animal; respect their freedom...if they they roar no. thats a no
You should consider reacting to some shoots from Britain’s Next Top Model. The judges were sometimes even more savage than ANTM.
D:
Paula Hamilton was really horrible!
Can we please stop tormenting animals for our stupid pictures?!
Let's model a fake fur fashion line while abusing an animal! LOL
This had to be against animals in film laws. Using one cub for an entire day of shooting is absurd, and the fact it was clearly not trained makes it even worse. Poor thing.
And you're right, they always give the same advice for how to pose. Some of their favourite pictures over the years have had doe eyes and open mouths, but they never say that's an okay choice. And desperation? You make girls leave all the damn time for "not wanting it enough," but you can't want it too much. That's just sad.🙄
If the model is wearing faux fur that’s not showing in the picture and you don’t care if it’s not there, how will you know if your designs is gonna sell or not? As a fashion designer, the clothes has to be shown in the pictures that’s gonna get people’s attention that they want to buy that, and even Brittani has one of the best pictures in this photo shoot that’s showing the faux fur and holding the baby Jaguar at the same time, she would have best photo of the week.
Maybe “bedtime” was code for he got sedated because he was being rowdy. 😢
I used to watch ANTM but it got old real quick. Now, watching your videos, I'm seeing so many problematic things. Using live animals and children as props for stuff like this really grinds my gears! That Jaguar was obviously uncomfortable, and no one seemed to care. It's just sick!
Agree
I don't know why they hated Alexandra, but I couldn't watch this season because of the conflict. I don't like to see people gang up on one person. The amount of gaslighting on this show is insane.
Ugh this was SO hard to watch! That poor animal was STRUGGLING to get out 🤦🏽♀️ & having to pose with every model smh ridiculous
My household cat has left me with permanent scars after a play session. I really don't think bringing a wild cat to a modeling photoshoot was a good idea.
The irony of exploiting a wild animal to promote a faux fur line! *face palm*
They really did faux fur and then had a baby animal on the shoot🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Animals aren’t meant to be exploited for money. They’re not here to be your entertainment- please don’t support people that use them. Just a PSA for anyone🥺
Your skin looks really good in this video Jessica! You're glowing
I am 100% positive that Alexandra cheated the system. The first season she was on, she was painted as the mean crazy chick so when she came back for All Stars, she came back with a plan. She acted calm and nice and meek the entire season and I think that really rubbed the other girls the wrong way. But she knew that in order to become a real model after the show, she needed to not let anything get to her and just make it through with her dignity. I think it was really smart of her and it even ended up making the other girls look bad because of how much they bullied her and she just took it.
No idea how she is in real life, probably more of a medium of the two extremes they portrayed her as.
I love your videos and your cat literally said put me down, the first time that you held her. They really didn’t care about anything other than belittling the girls for everything. It’s sooo clear to me that he enjoyed being the bully the entire time and now trying to backtrack and act innocent. This show would be watchable if it was a drama made series where everyone knew what was happening
Kept saying jagWIRE… I’ve never heard that pronunciation before 😂
My cat doesn’t like to be held either. My twin sister tried to hold him and she was like “he’s gonna love it” and he was kicking for her to let go of him. Like a lot of cats don’t like to be held. And btw, he too snuggle with me every night and he still hates it when i hold him.
OMGGGG antm of the episode is your CAT
Your cat was absolutely not having it.
Your cat is my oldest cat's twin! So cute!!! I have 6 cats and can confirm every single thing you said about them.
If the girls act like they don't want to be there they get criticized for it, example Elyse on cycle 1. But if a girl wants to be there and is crying then she is "desperate." Shouldn't they all want to be there and be desperate?
been living with cats since I was a kid, and we have like, at least 21 cats in our house. Them wiggling like that while growling when you try to carry them is already telling they *DO NOT* want to be carried. I wouldn’t say it’s in distress, more so agitated.
And clearly annoyed. Heck, even a cat pushes your face away with its paw when it doesn’t want you close lol
Tyra wanted everyone to SMIZE "smile with your eyes" 👀 😊 me and my sister's grew up watching the show and would SMIZE through everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷
I’m pretty sure Jessica barked at her cat then cut those scenes 😅
My guess is that Alexandria is just a sensitive soul that's been stressed by production. I use to think (but it's VERY ableist, and honestly very mean of me to assume) that she had borderline personality traits (doesn't mean you have the disorder if you have traits, just saying, many people who has gone through trauma do, and a lot of professionals will just call that being overly sensitive or over emotive, a full load of BS). It never bothered me personally. I know a lot of folks that are like that (thinking of the chicken incident). Knowing how they stress the girls, it could have been me.
She got so much hate, and honestly if you rewatch it today, you see that her only crime was to be seen as annoying or intense by other people.
I'm neurodivergent, but I have ADHD, PTSD and lived through emotional stuff. I have battled depression and anxiety. I've NEVER seen any of what Alexandria did as warranted the hate or the reactions we see in the show. But again, we probably don't see 90% of what was really happening.
The crowd reaction when she walked that stage at the start of the all star season... I was livid. She was so unfairly treated. I can't even begin the impact it had on her.
Alexandria's my girl in this season.
I don't like how happy they were with one model roaring at the jaguar and the jaguar roaring back. Try doing that to an adult animal I dare you. That was not cool at all.
If they don’t criticize them contestants not being passionate enough then they’re ‘desperate’ - nothing is ever good enough